Archive from 10-16-2000
B.D. ( 168.191.159.225 ) at 10:52 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
Ron H: Ron, do you have the number for Tom at Cinema Source? Thanks
mic ( 166.68.134.163 ) at 9:51 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
Finally got to watched JP/DTS this weekend, excellent video, and the sound was very clear and tight, the low end was there but not overly done, The chapter when the heard of dino's are flocking is one of the best use of surrounds i've heard yet, tactical's are a must for this movie. Next up is the Lost World/DTS. BTW got an email from DVDexpress my Toy Story 1&2 pack was mailed on Sat.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.160 ) at 9:38 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
Wild Bill
Joe: Thanks for the tip.
Joe ( 205.188.199.27 ) at 9:24 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
Wild Bill
Sorry to hear about the hose. This might be agood time to install some 1/4 turn ball valves. The cost a few bucks more then a gate valve, but they do not leak though the stem packing and are a quick turn on/off.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.193 ) at 8:29 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
JBC: Sounds good. I will only be in the office for a couple of hours this morning. Nicky returned yesterday and seems to be quite helpless. I hope to get her in to a Otho guy today. I plan on taking tommorow off just to help her with somethings and try to set things up around the house so she can manage better with the use of only on arm.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.143 ) at 7:58 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
What, no bugeyed frown?
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.143 ) at 7:57 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
8-(
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.143 ) at 7:57 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
Good morning guys. Today is just going to be a blast. Anamaria put a load of laundry in the washing machine last night and the hose burst. To make matters worse the shutoff valve was frozen. We had water pouring into the laundry room for way too long. The only fortunate thing is that the room under the laundry room is the basement bathroom. No wet cafrpet but we have quite a bit of work to do today. All for a lousy $5 hose. I suggest that you guys replace your washing machine hoses if you haven't done it in a while (or ever). Replacing the hose beats the heall out of what I went through last night. 8(
JBC ( 207.164.221.70 ) at 7:37 AM EST Monday, October 16, 2000
Good morning gang. Hope everyone has a nice day.
Ron H: Secretary should in with the next hour or so. I will forward my travel plans as soon as I catch up with her.
Hdlouie ( 209.179.41.152 ) at 11:49 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
popcorn
I know but I feel real bad tell him that, so I just strongly suggested that he invest in at least a used power sub. Now I don't have a supurb system but he likes the way mine sounds with two 12" Jbl's being pushed by 200 watts a piece. But anythings better that that cube sub. See I usually sell him my used stuff (not the bose) but now next year I have to look for another receive because YOU guy's take to much about this DTS suff I have to have one. See I have the old Onkyo 919 with DD decoder.
ONE thing I have to get off my chest! I saw that new Jackie Chan movie today And I have to say that the Trailers at the begining SUCK. Do I have to look at these Everytime I look at this video? This Is Bullllllll!!!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.17 ) at 11:18 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
RGB
Hdlouie: no sub for sale, but I would suggest that you mention to him that how lousy his sub is, the mains are just as bad... tell him to get some real speakers. 
Hdlouie ( 209.179.41.152 ) at 11:04 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
RGB
It's still up in the air this coming weekend. Lot's of things happening. But if I don't go up north for the weekend I'm in.
Saw Lost World last night on DVD DD and it sounded good. Better than JP, not by much though. There was one scene that made us all jump. I guess I forgot about that one.
I took that DVD to my cusins today and he had those bose am7's or something like that and was dissapointed on how it sounded. He has the Kenwood that might not give much power because it sucked on the base. But had him point the sub to the corner and was at least desent. Anyway he wants a powered sub. ANYONE SELLING A USED SUB.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:32 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Darian,cai: I did see that RCA unit on my visit to BB. I stopped looking after I saw the price tag. I can't remember what it was...but wasn't cheap!!!
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 8:30 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Darian: I think that the RCA tv in question has a built-in HDTV decoder. I am not sure it is wise to go with such a scheme. That particular decoder could become obsolete in a short period of time and would not be replaceable. One more thing, if the BB in your neighborhood is anything like mine, forget about evaluating anything from watching their sets. They are all miscalibrated and out of alignment. The unit does show promise however.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.126 ) at 7:00 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Hey guys! Busy day on the HT front today. Got the rest of the walls framed and the ceiling joists hung. I have the sewer pipe running behind 2 of the walls so I'm going to end up with a sort of room within a room situation here. The front and right wall, if you looked at it crossways, would look something like this |O|| The single line being the existing concrete slab, the circle being the pipe, and the double line being the new frame up. I'll have to drywall both sides of the frame up but I think this might give me better sound proofing.
I'm going to have an electrician friend over next week to give me some advice on the wire runs. I'm going to end up with 6 recessed lighting fixtures and 4 wall sconces. I don't have room in the soffits to hang any cans so I'm going to stick with ceiling mounts. Both sets of lights will be on their own controllers so I'll be able to dim each set separately.
I'm still thinking about finish design and color scheme. I know, I know....thinking too far ahead...but it's fun. I figure once the drywall is up I'll be able to come up with a decent idea of what I want the place to look like.
Hope to have some pictures up soon.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:10 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Just remember that there is that RCA 38" widescreen direct view with a DTC100 built in. Best Buy just started showing it. AVC plans on getting on in to look at it.
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 5:56 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
I just reposted to say that the Sony is a direct view and correct my previous post. Very inefficiently on my part, if you ask me.
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 5:54 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit: Although smaller the new direct view Sony X400 36" unit is supposed to be very good. It is a 4x3 TV with some enhancements for viewing 1080i material. Myer Emco has it for about $2100. If you are thinking of buying the Toshiba at BB, make sure that they do not give you the floor model. The price I saw, when there last, was about $2400.
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 5:53 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit: Although smaller the new Sony X400 36" unit is supposed to be very good. It is a 4x3 TV with some enhancements for viewing 1080i material. Myer Emco has it for about $2100. If you are thinking of buying the Toshiba at BB, make sure that they do not give you the floor model. The price I saw, when there last, was about $2400.
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 5:45 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
DiSH 6000
Darian: If you are asking me, look in the AVS forum and you will see a number of posts on video dropouts and other glitches. On top of that, the introduction of the OTA unit is consistently being delayed. I still do not have an HDTV, so I will just wait a few more months before I decide on buying this unit. First I have to buy a whole set of Salamander furniture to house my old stereo.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:41 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Sonic... When I was shopping for a TV for downstairs I was looking at the 40" toshiba. I found a local dealer that had pretty good prices and stock. This was when you couldn't find the Toshiba 40" anywhere. I almost took the deal till I saw the HiScan. If your cheap... and I know you are buddy! The HiScans are tough to peat in this day and age. I have the 61" version and have a pretty good size (about 55") 16:9 display. With most of my viewing still dominated by 4:3 sat material it made the Hi-Scan a no brainer.
I know it somewahat blastfamous to say this... but a 4:3 set than can do 16:9 is still a pretty good deal. This about it... primary viewing is still in 4:3 with no distortions or zooms needed. When I watch a non anamorphic DVD i get perfect geometry and a good size picture. When the day comes that 4:3 material isn't available I will just swich the TV to 16:9 mode and forget it. Now I have a button on the pronto that will switch the TVs aspect ratio with one touch.
DID I MENTION THAT ITS CHEAP???
My only gripe would be the one set of component/RGB pro inputs. Need an external switcher if you have HD and a pro DVD player.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:38 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit: Best Buy has that TV in this week's circular, $4,000.
But what I like about BB is that it's same as cash financing. And you don't finish till April 2002. Go for it.
Even a wife can like that plan.
Oh, and the 58" is $5,000. You're right, I've seen those TVs and they look great.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:33 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Curtis: Well, I have a 32" 4:3 right now so there wouldn't be too much worry there. I'd have the benefit of a much larger widescreen view...which is why I want to upgrade.
32" is a fine size for 4:3 in my living room.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.22 ) at 4:08 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit: Nothing wrong with the 40" model but I agree with Ron. Keep in mind that for 4:3 material you're effectively watching a 32" diag. image.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:04 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Ron H: I hear you. That seems to apply to everything, though! Right now I wish I had a bigger computer desk as I don't have a place for all the junk that seems to pile up on it(that I MUST keep, of course!).
Gar ( 169.207.194.163 ) at 4:04 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Michael AKA "proud new daddy": Good to see you in here. The JA's I picked up are awesome. Best Monitor for the money I have ever heard. I ended up getting the JA RM7si Signatures for $850 shipped, not too bad of a deal, I just wish they had a cherry or Rosewood finish. But black will do.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.250 ) at 3:27 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit:What evr size RP you think is big enough go for one size larger. I know from experience that after about 3-4 weeks and you get past how much larger it is than your previos monitor you will start wishing you picked up a larger one.
JBC ( 207.164.221.131 ) at 3:13 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
AKA: Nice to see you back... even if it is just to say hello. Hope you are continuing to enjoy fatherhood as the last time you were here.
Michael AKA "proud new daddy" ( 63.225.205.247 ) at 3:08 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Meant to say, "Just thought I would stop in and say hello". DOH!
Michael AKA "proud new daddy" ( 63.225.205.247 ) at 3:07 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Good afternoon all! Just thought I thought would stop in and say hello.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 2:18 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Curtis: Wow, nice price...but WAAAAYYY too big for me.
After settling down a bit, I've realzed that the Toshiba TW40X81 is a good size for me, although the bigger Pioneer SD-532-HD5 isn't TOO big.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 2:16 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Tony C: Actually, the Elites might be more than I'm willing to spend. Was looking at the SD-532-HD5 at Best Buy. Looked nice to me.
Gar ( 169.207.192.180 ) at 1:57 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Word of thumb!
If anyone is selling an recent item, or not very old, below dealer cost, chances of it being a scam go up greatly. Unless they just don't have a clue on what they have on hand, which is rare. The Problems with the Net is people want the lowest price and sometimes you pay for what you get, broken items, no item and who knows............ If the person/Persons can provide actual recent pictures of the unit and serial numbers, warr. Cards and boxes and manuals, this makes things work out much better.
Ron H ( 63.26.184.173 ) at 1:55 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
JBC: I would be afraid I would send the money and receive nothing in return. I go by the theroy that if it sounds too good to be true......t
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:44 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
WILD BILL: I went to the SVS site and was intrigued by what I saw.
The concept of not having a big black box is taking some getting used to.
I mean...what will I set my big Nipper on? I guess he could just sit by it's side since the SVS will actually take up less floor space.
For my room, 14.5' x 27', I was thinking that the 39" model would work good. And you are right about the price. About half of what one would pay for a Velo.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:39 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Too Good
JBC: I just saw a thread in the HT Forum that had some gus who was scammed on the sale of a DC-2. This same con-man also ripped off a few others on Ebay. I'm not saying this is the same guy because honestly, this guy would probably be charging $1,000 more for it.
I'm sure the Crestron is a challenge, but isn't that the fun part? Hope what Curtis sends works out for you.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:33 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit: Check out Pioneer Elite, HD ready sets.
I saw one using their pseudo progressive scan DVD player.
The picture was stunning.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.252 ) at 12:22 PM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
JBC: E-Bay has had quite a few Lexicon models that have been vaporware in the last few weeks. A seller has been selling for absurdly low prices and scamming people. I'd run, not walk, from this one.
JBC ( 207.164.221.229 ) at 11:55 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
In the "this is too good to be true" department the following appears on ebay...
468069883 LEXICON MC-1 THX/AC-3/DTS-NEW-SEALED-3 DAYS!! $1,025.00
That is right boys and girls. Someone has a new-in-box MC-1 that had a reserve of $500 (no typos here) and some lucky sole is going to get it for nothing. If these people even knew that it will be worth more than that when Lexicon comes out with a replacement unit I am sure more would bid on it. I am tempted to get myslf but the wife would kill becasue first ther is the Crestron, second there is the FP and getting another MC-1 would mean more speakers, another DVD player.....
Curtis: On the Crestron front, can you also ask your buddy if he has a line on 2 or 3 Crestron ST-CS units that someone is looking to unload. I could use these to do some much kewl programming!!!
Curtis ( 206.170.6.22 ) at 11:43 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit: Okay I was a little tired last night. "Bitchin' " shouldn't be your sole criteria. Prices are coming down. WCES should show quite a few HDRP's as downright reasonable prices. Don't forget the used market either. I know a guy who sold his 8 month-old TW65H80 (calibrated & even had the black light absorbing material installed inside the box) for $2,500 recently.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.252 ) at 11:39 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Joe: I'm not sure that I understand your position on Rosie clearly. Don't be so vague in your description next time. LOL!! 
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:23 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
DiSH 6000
What proplems would that be???
Gar ( 169.207.194.177 ) at 10:00 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Reference DVD
Ron H: Nope, haven't had time. Plus my installer I used to work with was supposed to stop by this weekend. So the good old, white sheet is doing the trick.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:52 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Kieran: Maybe you should take that post and make a Primer on Video Resolution like you did with speakers(which, did I mention, I thought was very good?).
Anyway, hope you got to sleep in this morning!!!
Ron H ( 63.26.171.220 ) at 9:49 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Reference DVD
Gar:Did you get your screen up yet?
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:48 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Kieran: Well, after the third time reading through it(literally walked from the bed to the computer room!) I think I understand. BTW, you could have stopped about halfway. 
Of course, Curtis made a good point. Buy what you like. Now if what I liked wasn't so expensive!!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.177 ) at 9:47 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Mission to Mars
Doh! need more sleep, sentence stucture all screw up this morning.... "This is one of the best pictures I have seen on a DVD" There we go
Gar ( 169.207.194.177 ) at 9:00 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Reference DVD
Well watched Mission to Mars last night, and I must admit, this is the best
one of the best pictures I have seen yet on a DVD. The details is excellent
the color is near perfect and the special effects aren't too bad either. Top notch on Video, and very very good on sound. U-571, good movie, but when the one ship blows up looked really lame. Mission to Mars, the movie is ok, but the way this thing looks makes me want to watch it again. This Sony 10HT keeps on impressing me, the more I use it.
Joe ( 152.163.197.74 ) at 8:08 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Good Morning all,
I am up waiting for the drywaller. He is supposed come apply the last coat of mud to the half-bath and the hallway.
I watched the District lastnight. I thought after last week I would give it one more chance. Now that I see it's a anti-gun show I will not watch it again. I would not be surprised if that dike bitch Rosie has something to do with the show.
JBC ( 207.164.221.141 ) at 7:29 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
Good morning guys...
Curtis: Thanks. As an aside part of the fun is programming this pup but wow.... the number of options is a little overwhelming. There certainly is something to be said for the Pronto which, in my mind, is the proper combination of flexibility and programming ease.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.35 ) at 2:13 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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Kieran: You sound like an engineer without a job I know that we all appreciate the work that went into your reply yet I think one can simplify things a great deal. I submit that most display devices that can actually present 1080i properly are all bitchin'. Your selection decision then is based upon very unscientific criteria, much the same as speaker selection - what looks best to your eye?
Curtis ( 206.170.7.35 ) at 2:04 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
JBC: Sorry to hear the Crestron is such a challenge. Let me see if I can work on my installer dude who has gigs of perfect color graphics from years of doing 6 figure HT installs. Let's hope you have a lot of bandwidth.
Kieran ( 209.142.51.8 ) at 1:42 AM EST Sunday, October 15, 2000
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SonicBit:The 850 lines they claim for resolution are "TVL" or "TV Lines" and are best described as HORIZONTAL resolution, i.e. how many VERTICAL lines can you draw side by side, along the HORIZONTAL axis (width)? The 850 is an exaggerated claim, to be sure, and probably is made counting the entire 16:9 width. Anyway, to explain your confusion, the 1080i required for HDTV is a VERTICAL resolution quantification. i.e. how many HORIZONTAL lines can you stack one on top of the other, along the VERTICAL axis (height). If your TV is "HDTV ready" then it must be able (at a minimum) to display a 1080 interlaced image, which as far as scan rate (Hz for the CRT guns) is concerned, is not more than 540p. (But you didn't need to know that). Anyway, all your HDTV ready sets will be able to display 1080i, but their HORIZONTAL resolution may differ, which is what (the manufactuers claim) sets one set apart from another. IMHO, there aren't many TV sets out there that can truly resolve 800 or more TV Lines per picture height. Most will start to blur out somewhere between 500 and 600, which incidentally is where the dvd format reaches its limit, anyway. TVL or horizontal resolution, is SUPPOSED to be measured per picture height. This means that a 4:3 set that is reported to have a horizontal resolution of 800 lines, SHOULD be able to display 800 vertical, alternating black and white, lines in a width across the screen equal to its height. Did that make sense? So, if a screen is 50" diagonally, it is about 30" high, and 40" wide. If they claim it has 800 TVL horizontal resolution, that means that it can display 800 lines in 30" along its 40" width, for a total of 1,066 lines (4/3 * 800 = 1066). In reality, most TV sets max out around 600 TVL, for a total of about 800 (4/3 * 600 = 800). For a widescreen set it is even more important that the manufacturer stick to the "per picture height" rule for measuring horizontal resolution, so that you can better judge the set's capability for horizontal resolution, against regular 4:3 sets. Hope this helps...
I'm really tired and it's really late (long day) and I'm rambling, so this will have to do for now. Somebody else feel free to elaborate and/or clarify if I've been unclear (very likely).
Gar ( 169.207.192.210 ) at 11:57 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Well time to fire up the 10HT and see how the Red Planet looks on this system.
Gar ( 169.207.192.210 ) at 11:56 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Mission To Mars Disc?
For some odd reason this puppy won't work in my Philips DVD. Says check Disc? Seems odd, but it works on my computer fine. First DVD with a problem I have had. Also, just saw U-571, decent flick, will buy on DVD if the sound is good, decent flick.
Joe ( 152.163.204.199 ) at 7:22 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Send me your address and I will send you a sample of the 14/4.
Joe ( 152.163.204.199 ) at 7:21 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
I am so excited, I just applied my first coat of primer to the bathroom. In a few days I might have one room completed.
We went today and picked out the flooring for the baths. I believe this is going to be a good week coming up.
Joe ( 152.163.204.199 ) at 7:19 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Byork
I would have to claim I did not say which Tuesday
JBC ( 207.164.221.249 ) at 4:55 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Cinepro PSA
For those interested there is a PowerPro 20 for sale on Audiogon for $1,200.
JBC ( 207.164.221.249 ) at 4:40 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Ron H: Too bad that you do not live closer to Canada as there is not the carzy demand for them here that there is in the US. A buddy of mine went to a delaer last week as was able to pick one up no problem.
On a different subject, I just watched The Bone Collector. This was a great movie... good story, good audio with much base and a not looking Angelina Jolie. Highly recommended for those who have not seen it.
The only problem was my lack of a FP!!
Ron H ( 63.26.185.187 ) at 3:56 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Yikes!!! I went to three dealers looking for a PT Cruiser for the wife. They are all insane. They are asking $3000 over list. So much for that idea.
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 3:11 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
James Bond Set #3
Just got my set today, plus Never Say Never Again, from Buy.com. I guess they must think that I am a good customer and do not put me in the afterthought pile like some other people I hear about in this forum. HA, HA, HA.
Just kidding Kieran.
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 3:10 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
James Bond Set #3
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.171 ) at 1:46 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
DTS JP
trav1: What speakers are you using? Have you tried any of the other bass heavy movies in your collection? I'll bet there is an improvement in the bass department. Many people seem to believe their speakers should be set to full range. IMHO, very few should be set up that way.
BYork ( 63.208.131.50 ) at 12:59 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Joe - Didn't it come out 2 Tuesdays ago? (That's when mine arrived...)
Gar ( 169.207.193.100 ) at 12:53 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
WildBill: thanks for trying, it is some type of cable or device for improving the quality of the Video signal.
Gar ( 169.207.193.100 ) at 12:52 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Gar is in the Dog House!
Well my wife, found a E-mail that some online company sent me, well lets just say it was called Perfect 10. I said in my E-mail although the models, looked fantastic, I couldn't subscribe online or via mail. Of course my wife didn't read down that far in the E-mail. I guess some people don't know the difference between nude pictures and porn. Yikes!!!!!!!!!!! So much for the European way......
JBC ( 207.164.221.142 ) at 12:48 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
... g-d damn f#$%^*& Crestron. It is a damn good thing I got this for a bargain. The bloody thing cannot do "circles" / "curves" a la Pronto nor does it contain an emulator. Of course you could import a bunch of graphics but what a pain.
That said, I must admit that it is looking very very cool. If you thought the Pronto was endless hours of tweaking try this pup out where you can add color, inhibited states, motion icons, subpages which "float", etc...
trav1 ( 204.118.244.60 ) at 12:44 PM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
DTS JP
Kieran: Well, I took my speakers and changed them from full range to cut them off thus making all l/r info go into the sub. This changed things dramatically. Now it seems to be a profound difference. I can't explain it, but the bass is now there like somebody suggested trying. But this would be the first movie I have ever had to change settings etc on.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.114 ) at 11:59 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
... the upgrade kits claim to bump the Tivo up to 112 hours.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.114 ) at 11:55 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Joe: I'm fairly certain the only difference between the Tivo's is the size of the hard drive. They both work well if you don't expect much more than VHS quality pictures. You'll find the 12 hour model selling on eBay for around $150 to $200. The 30 hr version for about $300.
There are also unauthorized upgrade kits (read: bigger discs)for sale there. No idea if they work. A friend of mine loves her Tivo. Once setup it is very easy to navigate stuff you've recorded. Running out of drive space is always an issue for her. Even though you can archive material to VCR, most people are too lazy to actually do it.
Joe ( 152.163.204.49 ) at 9:04 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
I started using the F(*7 noun, verb and adjective in my conversations wiht my contractor. I have also gone to the sticking my finger in his face approch. The drywaller just left and said he will be back in hte morning to apply another coat. I will then have the computer room, half bath and main house bath ready for painting.
I should have changed my tone a month ago.
Joe ( 152.163.204.49 ) at 8:50 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
I have a friend that won a 14 hour TIVO unit at this addy. He was thinking about selling it and buying a 30 hour unit. Any TIVO people have any input on this.
http://giveaway.tivo.com/giveaway/
Joe ( 152.163.204.49 ) at 8:48 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Morning all
I am surprised that wiht Friday the 13th and Hallowen coming no one is talking about a great film this week.
it came out Tuesday, it's a classic
It's just a jump to the right
I know I am ready to kick back and do the time warp again
JBC ( 207.164.221.216 ) at 7:26 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Good morning gang....
Ron H: I was not in the office yesteray because i have a bad cold. My secretary was working on my travel arrangements which I will confirm on Monday. Last I remember, it looks as though i will be there on Thursday the 9th and part of the 10th. To make this economical, I have to fly back from Houston to Dallas and then to Toronto.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.245.232 ) at 6:27 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Question?
Gar: I'm not sure.
BYork ( 209.247.245.155 ) at 3:00 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Friday, the 13th
Kieran: -
Nothing bad for me either. In fact, I decided that for a Friday the 13th, just prior to Halloween, AND with a full moon was too much to resist...and ordered the Universal Classic Monsters Box Set.
It seemed just too appropriate.
Sorry you got the "other end" of the stick today!
Ron H ( 63.26.163.237 ) at 2:19 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Curtis: Luck is the word. More of that than brains today.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.14 ) at 2:15 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Ron H: Good for you. Those are are excellent, profitable companies that one should always consider looking at when they take big hits for no real reason. I pulled out of a stock with on Monday that lost 30% since then but didn't get around to reinvesting it.
I suppose you could call this good luck.
Ron H ( 63.26.205.160 ) at 1:00 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Friday, the 13th
Kieran: I just saw your post. See below post to JBC. I had one of the best days since last april or so in the market. I have to say Friday the 13th was fantastic to me.
Ron H ( 63.26.205.160 ) at 12:56 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
JBC: Any firm times on your trip yet? It appearsnthat we may have a Houston/Dallas HT meet on the Saturday you are here. Sounds pretty cool to me.
Nicky will not be able to drive her VW Bug with her broken collar bone as it is a stick. She has mentioned that she would like a PT Cruiser. I could prevent myself from having to drive the bug for about 6 weeks and also tie in a present for her birthday, which is coming up in a couple of weeks. I could come out a hero. LOL This will mean lot ,more HT gifte coming myu way in the future.
I had a good day on the Market. I put some money at opening into Dell (up 4 1/8), Oracle (up 4 1'8), and Cisco (up 6 1/4). I had pulled most moneys out into a mutual last week so I was lucky and did not take the hit that happened this week. I was due for a break.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 12:44 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Perhaps a silly question, but...
I'm beginning my quest for a RPTV. I was looking at the specs of the Panasonic PT56WXF95(just looking!) and noticed it had 850 lines of horizontal resolution. Now how can that be and it still support 1080i?
Am I missing something? FWIW, I'm looking to spend up to around $4K on an HDTV ready (16:9 preferable) RPTV. I was at Best Buy earlier today(well, yesterday now) and thought the Pioneer SD-532-HD5 was right about the size I'd need.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.249 ) at 12:28 AM EST Saturday, October 14, 2000
Friday, the 13th
Well I locked myself out of my appt. this morning... had to climb in a back window that was open a crack (lucky). Wasn't easy though... had to grab one of the trash bins and turn it upside down so I could get up to the window (and I'm 6'7"). Good thing I'm pretty slim, too... it was a tight squeeze!
Anyone else have any bad luck today? Not that I'm superstitious... but sometimes it does make you wonder!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.89 ) at 11:58 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Oh, and it wasn't a dream! Just as bad today. 
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.89 ) at 11:57 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
TonyC; It's my 3rd generation receiver that's affected. The old codger works great, but very, very sloooooooww.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.89 ) at 11:56 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis; Interactive is right! Every few minutes I have to get up, walk over to the entertainment center, reach around back, and interact with my surge protector power switch. If the Wink download is causing this, I'm gonna be pissed!
Gar ( 169.207.192.188 ) at 11:45 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Question?
Wild Bill: What is the device that helps S-Video or Composite made by
Tributaries? Some guy was raving on how much better this thing made his video look. Any ideas?
Gar ( 169.207.192.188 ) at 11:42 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
7700 and blacker than black
Wild Bill: Bill CRTs can look green even there blacks if there not calibrated correctly. I have a black shirt on right now, but it has been washed, does that mean it's not black anymore hahahaha
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.225 ) at 11:22 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
COMDEX
Anyone going to COMDEX, BeIA will be shown on several appliances if you care to go look.
COMDEX Fall 2000, November 13 - 17
Be will showcase BeIA at COMDEX running on several devices within the National
Semiconductor Internet Appliance Pavilion
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.113 ) at 9:58 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
7700 and blacker than black
Gar: OK, it was just that half of your post was true. Some LCD projectors are well known for having *green* blacks. It's hard to tell if you are joking if part of the "joke" is true.
Gar ( 169.207.192.212 ) at 9:03 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
7700 and blacker than black
Wild Bill: Bill hence that is why I put the "JK"= Just kidding in my post I was being synical.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.14 ) at 8:48 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
I see JP is the same price for DTS & DD. That's a welcome change.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.14 ) at 8:42 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
7700 and blacker than black
Kieran: Good point. If i'm going through the trouble & expense of getting a new player I'll also want progressive scan out while I'm at it. Better yet an HTPC. The question is do they put out DTS? If not I'm almost back where I started - happy with what I have & still convinced that there's no DTS DVD software I'm remotely interested in owning that isn't also available in DD, probably less expensive too.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.134.53 ) at 7:32 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
7700 and blacker than black
Kieran: Well put.
Gar": I'm aware that some LCD projector present a "green" black but I have NEVER heard this about CRT projectors.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.155 ) at 7:14 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
7700 and blacker than black
Curtis: Indeed, it can't display "blacker than black" or lower than 7 on the IRE scale. However, in all the reviews I've read, both positive (many) and negative (few), I never read one that said that the blacks weren't deep enough, or even that they were less than superb in any way. The ability to pass a signal < 7 IRE does not give you a better picture in and of itself. It does make calibrating the picture easier (if you only use Video Essentials), but it doesn't necessarily make the picture better, since no software (save for calibration software like VE) out there actually sends a signal less than 7 IRE. So, the only time that capability would be used, is for calibration. And your set is ISF cal'd anyway! It is a huge misconception that the ability to pass a signal less than 7 IRE is important or makes a difference in the quality of the displayed picture. It isn't and it doesn't. So, go get your self a 7700, and enjoy dts! Besides, the 7700's are cheap now!
Gar ( 169.207.192.103 ) at 5:58 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
The 7700 does black well, blacker then black is overated, how about white.
Some Projectors CRTs and LCD make white look green hahahaaha..... jk!
Curtis, I had both units here and I couldn't tell on my RP XBR.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.245 ) at 5:24 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
DTS JP
Kieran: I thought the 7700 couldn't do blacker than black. If the blacks aren't deep then everything suffers.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.104 ) at 4:49 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
DTS JP
Curtis: Well, I understand your reasoning for keeping the 7000. However, the 7700 is every bit as good a player, looks very similar (almost identical) AND it does DTS!
Cajun Mike ( 209.124.192.249 ) at 4:20 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
New DVD News website
This new DVD news website looks promising...check it out
http://www.dvdbreakdown.com/index_flash.html
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 3:52 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Darian - there is a button on the Change Member Password page(off the User Prefs page) that you can click to have your passwprd auto-emailed to you...
Curtis ( 206.170.6.245 ) at 3:39 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Carlos: I think you have quite a wait on your hands for a Sony HDRP. They postponed all as well as their STB's some time ago. Gar can give you the sad story.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 3:39 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Darian: Haven't been to Best Buy yet, will check probably next week. I ran the cable for it from the equipment rack to the oval dish last night in preparation, still have to put ends on the cable. Pretty busy at work these days.
cai ( 24.163.119.47 ) at 3:24 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Darian: Thanks for the tip. The Costco around here has them for about $450. I am waiting until they come out with the OTA module and have straighten out some of the bugs that have been reported on this unit.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:59 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
BTW, Gar: Email or Call me dang it! rcarlosnyc@aol.com
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:58 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis: I'm keeping my 7700 when I buy the Sony progressive player. I'm also can't wait to see the Sony 55" HDRP.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.245 ) at 2:50 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
DTS JP
Kieran: DVP-S7000 it is. I'm going to rename all my Sony stuff to 97000.
Two reasons I don't want to replace the DVD player. It's a well documented great CD transport & the faceplate design is a great match for the 9000 pre/pro. Make that 3 reasons, no more room in my rack.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.67 ) at 2:15 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
DTS JP
Curtis: bet=get
Kieran ( 134.139.23.67 ) at 2:14 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
DTS JP
Curtis: Don't you mean S7000, not S9000? Don't you have the Sony DVP-S7000? Just curious, as you've called it a 9000 3 or 4 times recently. Did you bet a different player?
BTW All: I finally watched JP dts dvd all the way through yesterday, at near reference level (maybe one notch below). Keep in mind that I have the Energy Take5 + ES8 speaker system... the small sat's only go down to 90 Hz, and the SUB takes it down to the high 20's... anything below about 26 or 27 Hz is usually inaudible on my system. So, with that said, the sound was fantastic. I do agree that the bass didn't have the presence that I THOUGHT it would, but I wasn't necessarily disappointed. But maybe what is there, I'm just not hearing, because it's below the range of my sub (i.e. low 20's). And YES of COURSE my speakers are ALL set to "small." However, the mids and highs were absolutely prestine! All the crackling, snapping twigs and bones, rustling trees and branches, etc, were very sharp and crisp, how I like them, and the dialog was also very good, if a little bit on the quiet side in SOME scenes. Usually everything was what I would think of as "reference quality" though. And the picture was just great as well. I tell you what, chapter 11 of this disc is now THE demo scene for my system.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.87 ) at 1:06 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Wild Bill: " You tend to blow things up" LOL
Ron H ( 63.23.243.87 ) at 1:05 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Chris L.: all I care is if it will cut a 6x2s board stacked two high. So yes I would get the smaller one.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.184 ) at 12:54 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Wink
Sigh. Ecommerce via television is what wink is all about. When a wink-abled program is viewed a logo appears in the corner of your screen inviting you to check it out. Just what we need, more logos. There's some confusion if the DTC-100 is going to get this service. I hope it doesn't.
www.wink.com
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:54 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
JOhnO: Did BestBuy have a DTC100 for you?
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.62 ) at 12:52 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Darian: One of the owners (designers) used to live in Alexandria. I've heard the subs he built that the SVS design was based upon. It was the most impressive display of bass I've ever felt. They are assembled and shipped from Ohio. I am not sure why Virginia sales tax applies. I suspect that it is because Ron Stimpson may have licensed the company in Virginia. I was kidding (a bit) about the abuse thing. 
I'd say they stack up against the HSU subs with no problem. The sub I'm installing is powered. The customer is a neophyte and I want the setup to be as simple as possible.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.62 ) at 12:49 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
subs
scott veirs: www.SVSubwoofers.com
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:44 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Bill: I understand on that one. I would not be looking to abuse the thing. I just want to know if they better the HSUs. I noticed they charge VA residents sales tax. Are they in VA?
I don't mean to Abuse gear. The Manufactures claim it can do it... I try it!
Curtis ( 206.170.6.184 ) at 12:43 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
bizarre happenings in outer space
BIG AL: It could be that you have received a DirecTV firmware upgrade for an interactive feature called Wink. Read the story at this link & check your RCA model #.
http://www.e-town.com/news/article.jhtml;$sessionid$FT5YHQIAAB4QNTYPVYXSFEY?articleID=3566
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 12:36 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
subs
Wild Bill: Do you know their website?
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 12:34 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
subs
Wild Bill: Do you know their website?
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 12:33 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
GRRRR *&%$#@*&$&#(!#@$
THATS IT! I have had it why MyerEmco! My speakers are not in yet as I was told they would be today!
I guess I have to cancel my order and find someone else to by them from!
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.62 ) at 12:27 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Darian: As I said, it is not MY sub. I can't in good faith, demo something or you equipment (or anyone else's) that a custmoer has purchased as a new product. It would be poor business. The SVSubwoofers are being championed by those that are "in the know" when it comes to LFE. I think the operative words in your reply are "grueling abuse". Abuse is not testing, it is...well...abuse.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:00 PM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Hmmm... Well MIldOne... SCARED??? Don't think your subs are are up to my grueling abuse? I tink that would have to be a negative recomendation! Maybe SVS ain't so great!!!
hahaha
I haven't blown anything up in a while. I have found gear that not only kicks ass but are built like tanks.
All this talk about the SVS has made me currious. They are built on the HSU princable of tubes. However it would be real nice to get the ACTIVE crossover of the HSU out of my system. To get me to replace a piece of gear I have to see or hear a marked improvement. You have championed the SVSub for a little while know. I was wondering if you had ever hear them? Like have you demoed them? Also I guess I isinterpereted that you were going to have the SVSub to play with.
You wouldn't really back away from comparing stuff on my gear, would you?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:51 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Popcorn: My USer Login is not working. Could you resend me my password?
cnichol@erols.com
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:47 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
what do you guys think I could get for my M&K 5000 THX MKII sub?
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.177 ) at 11:39 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Darian: No can do. It is being shipped directly to the clients house and no offense, but I'm not willing to put someone else's equipment through one of YOUR torture tests. You tend to blow things up.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.190 ) at 11:36 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
BTW.... Afternoon all!
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.190 ) at 11:35 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Ron H : Do you find that you actually need a 12" miter saw? I'm thinking I could save the roomie some $$ by returning it and getting the 10" instead. I guess I'm feeling kinda guilty.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:30 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
WildBill: Panasonic shipped the wrong transports. Guess I will be waiting a little longer for the DVDO built in DVD player.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:28 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
WildBill:Which SVS sub are you getting in? If you are going to have time to play with it... lets compare it. If it is the passive one that will be even better. I have 2 HSU TN1220s here amd a Cinepro amp to power them. Since the SVS doesn't require the HSUs crossover it will be fun to compare them.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.177 ) at 11:07 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
subs
scott veirs: Yes, the SVSubwoofers outperform Velodyne and they're much less expensive. You can get an SVSubwoofer with a TON of boom for $699 (including amplification).
David ( 207.69.169.95 ) at 11:01 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Moving
Kieran: Yeah, I still work for HP. I guess you missed the post, but back when you were interviewing for the job, I offered to help out if I could. Also, I sent you an email the other day, before the HP/Agilent email systems got separated.
As far as packing, I would still let the movers do it... even if your gf's stuff is there. You can 'prepare' for their arrival by setting out all your dishes & stuff... also can move all your stuff into 1 or 2 rooms.
Ron H ( 63.26.123.84 ) at 10:40 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
The great thing is I have met each of you at one time but none of you have met each other.
Ron H ( 63.26.123.84 ) at 10:39 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
BC: sounds ok by me. We could have quite a meet. Lets see we would have Ron H, JBC, BC, Derb and RickMTB.
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 10:34 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
subs
Wild Bill: even the big "V"? (Velodyne for any slow bodies today)
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.79 ) at 10:33 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
JP DVD
mic: Thanks for doing the test. Your results are contrary to those that are being posted at HTF. The people over there are saying teh DD 2.0 track has MUCH more LFE than the DTS track. MHO? They're expecting too much. People were expecting the booms from a 35 foot T-Rex that a 100 foot Godzilla produced. Duh!! There are also complaints about video quality and I believe the transfers are pristine.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:30 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
let me know if yall do a houston get together. I could make the drive from dallas if it's on a weekend.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 10:26 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Oops!
Ron H: Ron, a Houston HTOC get-together would be coll (or kool,
to quote RichTHX, or kewl, to really be cool). Let me know...
mic ( 166.68.134.163 ) at 9:07 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
dts dvd player
Curtis: Mercata has a power buy, Toshiba 1600 for $138 with all discounts applied
Gar ( 169.207.194.28 ) at 9:05 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
The Krell unit was the KAV-300i
mic ( 166.68.134.163 ) at 9:02 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
JP DVD
Did a quick read of my new copy of Sound & Vision's review of JP DD 5.1, they claim the bass is lacking on this DVD too, they did not review the DTS ver. I've been play'n a little with my DTS copy, comparing the DD 2.0 & the DTS track using the RS SPL meter. The DTS ver has more, I also tested between full range mains and a LFE only sub, Full range no sub and mains as small c/o to the sub, and get more bass when they are set as small, which to me means that there is very low bass in the L&R channels. I turned off all bass protection for the tests. Put TREX in a A-B loop and switched between setups I turn off the Bass Shakers for the tests. Still waiting to watch the whole movie, the sound track is still very enveloping, and should be great with the bass shakers on.
Gar ( 169.207.194.28 ) at 9:02 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
NAD Silver Series
Wow, does this stuff sound good, besides that it looks good, and is built like a tank! There new S-300 Intergrated, is said to rival Krells unit. I from what I heard it did. They had the two side by side at a local High-End shop intown, seems the new NAD gear is built in Sweden.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:46 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Good Morning.
BIG AL: I think RGB is right about the ECM being sent from DTV. It may only affect the first generation player (is that the one?). DTV has been sending out some massive upgrades lately, who knows how it could affect a receiver.
Joe: I may be interested in "some" of that 14/4. is it solid or strand? I couldn't find it at Home Depot when I was looking.
Joe ( 152.163.204.197 ) at 8:20 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
I am probabley going to have some wire for sale if anyone is intersted. Looks like around 500' of RG-6 siamese (sp) and 400' of 14/4 Beldin. Perfect for the installer just starting out
Joe ( 152.163.204.197 ) at 8:18 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Good Morning all
Finally it's Friday, I am thinking I will spluge today and make some margaritas. I bought a bucket of mix at Sams. I just add a fifth and throw it in the freezer. By tonight the magaritas will be frozen. In the mean time it's off to rent a powerwasher for the deck.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.56 ) at 5:10 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis: I agree with Popcorn. I now have 3 DVD players in the house. My 3109 is in the HT and has become a CD player. My Marantz is in the family room and the HTPC is the main player in the HT.
JBC ( 207.164.221.119 ) at 3:52 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Good morning guys...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.76 ) at 3:08 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis: Who says to sell it??? I keep my *original* Tosh 2006 up in my bedroom attached to a TV there.
RGB ( 206.170.69.136 ) at 1:50 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Well, you know you just really needed *another* reason to get a DTS capable DVD player. 
Curtis ( 206.170.6.38 ) at 1:42 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
RGB: Man you guys are sooooo good at spending my money! You're probably right that a prog. scan DVD player would be a nice replacement for old Bertha. She's one of the originals, complete with the famous switches and should fetch a fair price. There's a strong attachment to it as I bought it when the total # of DVD titles available were about 12.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.93 ) at 1:23 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Time for sleep. Maybe I'll wake up, and it'll all be a bad dream. "There's no place like home theater....there's no place like home theater..."
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.93 ) at 1:20 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Oh....I have 2 RCAs. One 1st gen, and one 3rd gen.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.93 ) at 1:19 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
RonH; I'm talking strange and odd occurances here, not common, everyday, normal activity.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.93 ) at 1:17 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
RGB; Possible, but why only on 2 channels,(the networks yet) and why almost all day? The other twist I forgot....my second receiver shows none of this problem on any channel, and it's got an "H" card.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.228 ) at 1:15 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
bizarre happenings in outer space
BIG AL: very wierd. Did you look outside for the mother ship?
RGB ( 206.170.69.136 ) at 1:13 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
bizarre happenings in outer space
BIG AL: You didn't mention what satellite receiver you had, but I suspect DirecTV is either sending a firmware update, or possibly sending some hack codes for pirate cards which may affect some legit subscribers as well.
RGB ( 206.170.69.136 ) at 1:11 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis: Sounds like a good time to upgrade to a new DVD player. Yes, the S9000 is a nice machine, but being the videophile I know you are, a progessive scan player is soon in your future - I just see it!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.93 ) at 1:09 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
bizarre happenings in outer space
If anyone has heard of this, or has an explanation, I'd be grateful, cause I'm stumped!!! First occurance at 2:35 PM today. Watching CBS on DirecTV, wife had been watching for about 2 hours. Suddenly the picture froze. I tried changing channels, nothing, I tried turning off the sat receiver, no response. I tried pushing the buttons on the sat. receiver box, no response, not even the power button! Picture still frozen after several minutes. I turned off my surge protector, waited a few seconds, turned it back on. powered up the sat., and it was back to normal. 5 minutes later, the exact thing happened again. This time I shut it down for 5 minutes to reset it. Powered it up, and everything back to normal. 5 minutes later, same thing again. To shorten this story....If I have on NBC (east or west), or ABC (east or west), the system locks up to where no buttons work, every 5 minutes. If I watch any other channel, including CBS, I can watch for hours with no occurance at all. I've repeated this occurance several times without any variance. It's never done anything like this before in the 3 years I've had this receiver, or the 6 years I've had DirecTV. I've never heard of anything like this, especially the power button not working, remote or on the box. Any ideas??!! TIA
Gar ( 169.207.194.13 ) at 12:55 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis: How about a DVD with DTS player? There cheap......
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.93 ) at 12:54 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
TonyC; Yes I'll be hitting United Tweeter Audio and Sounds Deluxe. Both do Sony, so I can compare prices, and hopefully one will have one displayed. Hopefully both at Sound Deluxe so I can side by side.
Gar ( 169.207.194.13 ) at 12:54 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis: Opps, I meant the M5, I have drivin it. Slice of driving heaven, your right the M3 isn't as good, but it's not bad.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.93 ) at 12:47 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
My my! Some excitement! Anybody comparing to the pro-logic LD of JP? (just curious) It's been a long time, but I think the pro-logic version had more bass than DD or DTS.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.38 ) at 12:34 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Gar: I have a Millenium 2.4.6 around here somewhere acting as a doorstop if you would like it. It will never be able to play DTS DVD's. My pre/pro does DTS of course so it sees some duty doing LD & CD work. The only missing link is to replace the S9000 player - I still see no compelling reason to do that as it's a great machine.
M3's are for girls, it's the M5 I like
Gar ( 169.207.194.13 ) at 12:00 AM EST Friday, October 13, 2000
Curtis: no offense but you have never been a supporter of DTS. As having more then two choices, I think it is the customers right. Just like you and I like the BMW M3 someone else might like the new Audio TT. It is nice to have choices. And since you don't have DTS on your DVD player, it is hard to judge the format, I just wish DTS would pull there heads out of there ass and promote it more.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.38 ) at 11:07 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
trav1: Look at the bright side. The Spielberg's will be able to eat tonight because you purchased 2 JP's and are renting a 3rd.
Ron H ( 63.26.185.240 ) at 10:06 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Oops!
Derb: I will give you a firm date and time in about a week. Fat Cat wants to meet you.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.114 ) at 9:56 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
HT Update
Chris L.: Kooooool!!!!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:53 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
HT Update
Chris L.: It's been like 6 years since I built my HT in the basement.
I loved every minute of it. Take your time and think a lot. (ooh, I just sounded like Cat Stephens!) Think of everything you got. (ooh, there I go again) But make sure you plan for the future.
I think we all envy you. Have fun.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 9:40 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
Curtis: I too have the dts laserdisc. I should have known better and like you said, not purchased a copy of something I already had. Maybe we are just spoiled and have a truly reference laserdisc there worthy of withstanding new formats. I'm off to rent the dd dvd now. The suspense is killing me.
Joe ( 152.163.194.196 ) at 9:27 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
In from the livingroom table
Hello, all
I have my computer sitting on my dinning room table now. Maybe, just maybe I will have the computer room back together in a few days. We might panel the room. I have a chair rail with panelling on the bottom half now. We were talking paneling the whole room. I am thinking 7 sheets, about $140 for the whole deal.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.38 ) at 9:02 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
trav1: Your vendor can arrange for that kick in the butt too
Curtis ( 206.170.6.38 ) at 9:01 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
RGB: You can be sure that Widescreen Review will claim that the DTS DVD sounds better than the DD version by leaps & bounds, like they always do regardless of what anyone else thinks they hear.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.38 ) at 8:59 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
trav1: They might say something like this.
y Lemme get this straight. You're returning this because you want a thump in the chest fella? I'll give you a thump you'll never forget! I just replayed a few choice scenes from the DTS LD. The puddle scene (rippling) and right after could take my house off its foundation if I cranked the sub enough. Think I'll just stick with what I already have as I never was crazy about owning multiple formats of the same movie.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 8:58 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
RGB: Overall though the disc is very good. Dialogue is very clear and crisp, maybe a tad bright, but I just flip on the HF button on the Theatermaster and it is all ok. I just sort of miss that overblown kick in the butt bass.
Derb ( 199.174.0.73 ) at 8:53 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Oops!
Ron H: That would be very cool. Thanx for the invite. It would be great to see some of you folks.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 8:37 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
trav1: I'm curious if this has been brought to the attenion of people like Jeff Hunt over at The Digital Bits? I'm sure he's gotten wind of it, but I haven't seen any postings or messages from him on the subject. He did review the DD versions of the DVDs, but nothing yet on the DTS versions.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 8:14 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS
I just popped in the newly arrived dts dvd of JP and I have to say, while I'm not a pro by any means, the bass does seem to be anemic. I can't say I have compared it to the DD version, but even the Dts ld of it I have seems to be superior. Whether you want to call it overblown bass or what have you, it is still missing what I believe is the thump in the chest that you get from the ld. I will have to rent the DD version and compare, but I am not sure how I can return the dts version for the dd version if I find it better to "my" liking. Your mileage may vary. I now wish I would have bought the disc local so I could return it. I had ordered it from dvdexpress. Wonder what they would say?
Ron H ( 63.26.164.218 ) at 8:09 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Curtis: Mine are set to small but crossed over at 40 hz.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.218 ) at 8:07 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Oops!
RickMTB:I have JBC visiting early November. Maybe we all can get together. We could also see if Derb will join us.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.178 ) at 7:56 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Darian: www.SVSubwoofers.com. Is that the one you're asking about? You are being a bit cryptic in your post to me.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.240 ) at 6:38 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
HT Update
So the saw was brought home and set up yesterday. Seems like a lot of saw for cutting baseboard and 2x4s but who am I to complain?
Brought home the rest (I hope) of the lumber today and should be starting the cable and wire runs, setting up the recessed lighting fixtures, and generally preparing for the drywall by next weekend. Seems like real slow going now but I'm sure I'll start getting more excited as the room starts to take shape.
This is too much fun!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 6:07 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Oops!
Ron H : No prob... they are there if you need them, just let me know (I could probably arrange "delivery" of them so that I could unload them and help you set them up). Now that things have calmed down work-wise and home-wise hopefully we can get together sometime soon!
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 5:46 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Curtis: If that was the case, then why do the problems seem to just be with the JP DTS DVD, and not the Lost World DTS DVD?
Gar ( 169.207.194.88 ) at 5:45 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
I don't have no stinking small speaker!
I am using the Dynaudio Monitors(LCR120) X 5 and I have tried them on both the large and small and they seem good on both settings..
Gar ( 169.207.194.88 ) at 5:44 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Well I set my speaker on large when playback on CD's and turn the sub off. I am a music purist, and I still am stuck in two channel stereo at times!
Curtis ( 206.170.6.115 ) at 5:39 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
... and you're right that most people who should set their mains as small tell their pre/pro's/ receivers that they have large. Probably a guy thing. "I didn't spend thou$and$ on no SMALL speakers!"
Curtis ( 206.170.6.115 ) at 5:35 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Jurassic Park DTS DVD
Wild Bill: Thanks for the picture impressions. I can't playback DTS DVD's on my S9000 so will get the DD version. If these discs were mastered properly it should be possible to allocate more video bandwidth on the DTS version. Then it would have a better picture than its DD counterpart - in theory at least. I seriously doubt that the engineers went through that much trouble, though in a perfect world they should have. Wanna bet they look about the same?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:30 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
DTS JP
Well, my speakers are set to small. Everything is calibrated and adjusted and JP just doesnt' kick you in the ass like I hoped. I put in lost world without changing anything and there is the kind of bass impact I want so...
The video looks very good. A friend is going to get the DD version of JP so I hope to borrow it and see for myself if there is a difference. Hell, it could be mental since I have read that the bass is lacking on JP DTS.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:24 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Help me out Bill
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:22 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Damn I lost that web page again.
Wild Bill ( 63.36.12.135 ) at 5:19 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Jurassic Park DTS DVD
Well, I'm not seeing posts from anyone here that this seems to be a defective DVD. Mine is pristine on video on also sounds great. I agree with Obi on HTF who feels that many people *think* their main speakers are full-range and set these speakers to large when, in fact, they should be set as small. Thus, bass output is lost. IOW, it is a bass management question and not a defective DVD. I know that AVB has speakers that should be truly set as large but most of us don't. Can anyone else post their impressions of the DTS DVD. TIA.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:45 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
subs
Wild Bill: Oh, okay. Just wondering...
Wild Bill ( 63.36.12.135 ) at 4:44 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
subs
SonicBit: I'm installing the SVS sub in a job I'm doing. I only get to play with it, not keep it.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:38 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
subs
Wild Bill: Out of curiousity, what are you doing with your old sub.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 4:37 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
SoCal HTOC Meet
Gasgeek: I'm open that weekend, so whatever the majority goes for - I'm in!
Ron H ( 204.31.24.180 ) at 4:36 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Oops!
RickMTB:Thanks for the offer. If Bob at Avalon will not let me keep the EarthQuakes a little longer I may take you up on the offer. It is like I will be in too bad of shape without the side speakers. I can tell the Lexicon that I only have rears and no sides and it will operate like a normal 5.1 system.
Thanks for the offer. If they are too big and I move them I may set back the healing of my broken ribs.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 4:24 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Oops!
Make that modified (modifified sounds rather, well, not something one does in Texas
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 4:22 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
M&K finally come thru!
Ron H : You are welcome to borrow a pair of Vandersteen 2c's I have stored in their boxes. They are pretty large and heavy, so you'd need to bring a van truck, or car with a fold-down rear seat to carry them, but I could help you get them in the car. I modifified them so you don't need to bi-wire them.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 4:15 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
that's the impression I have gotten too. I am thinking I may be able to sell my m&k 5000, buy an SVS, get an improvement in bass and maybe even have some $$ left over. Plus I'd have that bad ass looking tube in the corner!
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.140 ) at 4:09 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
subs
BC: I'll be installing an SVS sub in a week or two. I'll post my impressions. From what I've heard they outperform nealy EVERY commercially available sub.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:58 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
subs
has anyone here heard the svs subs?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:58 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
oh man, my head hurts from laughing so hard! hehe
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:30 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Not To Be A Dick
BC: Stop while your ahead...wait..uh...drop this topic!!!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:28 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Not To Be A Dick
Derb: I live in Plano and bought my denon and toshiba from advanced home theater. If you need me to go by and be a dick for you, I can. (boy that didn't come out quite right, dohhhh, dick and come out right, ok I am gonna stop now.)
Derb ( 208.134.148.129 ) at 3:22 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Not To Be A Dick
Darian: I get even less help from most dealers. I always go directly to the manufacture on any problems I have. Advance Home Theater Systems in Plano Texas
Ron H ( 207.94.255.150 ) at 3:07 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
M&K finally come thru!
Curtis: When I was building my HT room I sold or gave away most of my spare HT stuff plus I had to set up a system in the original family room. I do have the Earthquakes I got from Bob to demo about two months ago. I sent Bob a e-mail yesterday about returning them. I think he forgot I have them. I am sure I could keep a pair of them till the M&K shows up.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.154 ) at 2:41 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
M&K finally come thru!
Ron H : Cringing can't be too good for those ribs. Am I safe to assume that like a lot of us, you have an extra pair or two of speakers laying around the house that you can hookup while you wait? 3 pair here - the things are like guppies. Each time you put 2 in the garage 6 show up the next time you look. Hmmm I wonder if that would work with some B&W 801's?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:30 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
SoCal HTOC Meet
RGB,HDLouie, Kieran: I can have it on the 22nd if that works. My wife will be out of town and I just have to pick her up at the airport at 7:30PM. If we have the meet early in the afternoon, I don't see a problem. I was actually hoping to have it on Saturday so that we could meet at my dealers to play with some of his toys and then go to my place for the remainder of the afternoon. He's not open on Sundays. Let me know what you guys want to do.
Ron H ( 207.221.161.150 ) at 2:01 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
M&K finally come thru!
BC: You lucky dog. I will be sending my 150 out to them on Monday. I cringe at how long this may take.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 1:21 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
So Cal HTOC meet
HDLouie: It'd be cool if you could also make it. That is if Gasgeek can actually have it.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.4 ) at 1:09 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Jurassic Park
Curtis: Actually, I'm more looking forward to the surround use and panning on Charlie Brown than the LFE...
Curtis ( 206.170.7.154 ) at 12:55 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP DTS soundtrack
Glad to know that my old DTS LD sounds as good or better than the new DVD release. What about the picture? I would expect great things from the DVD vs. LD versions yet nobody has mentioned a thing about it.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:52 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
M&K finally come thru!
Hey Ron, I got the tweeter. Only took 3 weeks, 2 phone calls, and 4 emails.
I watched a little of JP and lost world in DTS. JP does seem to be lacking a little in the bass dept. It just didn't shake the room like I though when the T-rex was chasing the jeep. Lost world sounds great though!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:49 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Scott: Type in 20877 to your mapquest. That shold give you an idea... I come out to Fairfax and Springfiled a few times a week and it is 25 miles.
Ron H ( 204.31.87.105 ) at 12:20 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
subwoof woof
scott veirs:M&K is one of the top makers of subs.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.154 ) at 12:11 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Dish 6000
scott veirs: The Dish 6000 is the latest/greatest offering from Echostar that I would look at next to a DCT-100, were I shopping today for a HD receiver. Features are here http://www.dishnetwork.com/hardware/third_level_content/6000/6000_features/index.asp
The only downside to this thing at the moment is that they're late bringing out the OTA HD module. The 6000 has 2 things the DTC lacks 1) Component outputs & 2) the ability to output both 1080i and 720p. I prefer DirecTV's programming options over Dish. You may feel differently.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:04 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
I tweaked the upstairs system with the new speakers last night.
Sounds really good.
Next upgrade: I called to have the RPTV ISF calibrated. Should be done soon.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:02 PM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
BIG AL
I think that Sounds Deluxe has a DC-2 set up. You going to stop by the United Audio in Fox Valley?
Geez, I hope your back gets better. If you ever have the time to stop by, you're welcome any time.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.154 ) at 11:55 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
... I'm such a smartass in the morning
Curtis ( 206.170.7.154 ) at 11:49 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Jurassic Park
Scott "popcorn": Is that the DTS version of A Charlie Brown Christmas that you have on order? Be sure to let us know if the LFE is as good as the original
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 11:28 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Darian: how far is that from sterling? I see you have hdtv, hell thats worth the trip alone!
lol - what is the DISH 6000? I have the 5000.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:25 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Scott: I live in Gaithersburg MD. Here.
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 11:25 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
sunfire?
I looked at one but it was 8" and im in a 25x15 (approx) room and i wasnt sure that would do?
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 11:22 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Darian: WHERE? LOL
JBC ( 207.164.221.70 ) at 11:20 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
scott veirs Other brands I would consider are HSU, M&K,and REL. As an aside, I think Ron H has a Sunfire True Subwoofer Signature for sale.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:16 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Scott: Come chechout my HSUs.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:14 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JohnO: If they have it??? Yes I would reccomend that. Then you wouldn't have to come up here to fetch it. Also there is not much we can do with the price of it. The money on that unit is ment to be made on the install and the residuals from DirecTV subscription. AKA there is no Margin to play with. Wish I could have done better for you buddy.
scott veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 11:12 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
subwoof woof
Hey gang. I am looking at subwoofers and belive it or not im taking my trust to ebay to buy a decent velodyne. If i cant find a V that I want, who is the next best brand to look up?
thanks for your help
CIAO
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 11:09 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Price Drop
Darian: So should I just get one there?
mic ( 166.68.134.163 ) at 10:07 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
JP/DTS
I found it very interesting that the disk opens up with previews in DD 5.1, then switches to a DD 2.0 for the menus and bonus material. Then the main event in DTS 5.1 @ the reduced data rate of 754/kbs or DD 2.0 192/kbs. The DTS mix sounds find to me. The bass seems to be very deep way down in the 20's, very clear and distinct. May be more the quality of the subs then the mix. Haven't watched it yet just a quick look, but the colors real stood out on those jeeps, the orange wheel and doors.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:36 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Price Drop
The List price of the RCA DTC-100 has been changed. The list price is now $549. JohnO Your local Best Buy should be receivng them today.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:34 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Derb: not to be a dick... Did you ever ask your dealer for help on this matter? They are the ones who are supposed to handel these things. Was your dealwe unable/unwilling to help you? Who is your dealer.
Ron H ( 207.221.158.93 ) at 8:10 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Joe: Thanks for the thought. I bet you will be glad to have your house finished up.
Joe ( 152.163.213.194 ) at 7:46 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Good Morning all:
Me and the fat dog are heading out for coffee. The contractor told me 7-10 more days and they will be out of my house. I still have wor after that.
I have to take my computer down in the next few days. They are cutting a hole though the wal between the kitchen and the computer room. This is going to become the computer / Ht lobby. The only acess now is though the living room.
Ron, hope you and the wife heal soon.
JBC ( 207.164.221.174 ) at 5:41 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Good morning gang...
Tony C: Congrats on the new gear...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.97 ) at 2:34 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Jurassic Park
I find it highly interesting that in the past Dolby had indicated that DTS modifies the master mix... but with the current JP reports, you would think that if DTS was modifying the mix, they would increase the LFE... So why are the reports in favor of more LFE in the DD version? I wonder WHO if anyone is modifying the mix...
By the way, my DTS copies of JP and LW are on their way, along with Charlie Brown Christmas and Star Trek TV volume #13... (they were out of #14)... They should be here Saturday.
Hdlouie ( 209.179.38.239 ) at 12:52 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
RGB
Those dates are Ify for me but will let you know.
Jurassic Park on DVD DolbyDigital sounded so-so on the bass. LD was a little better. I thought it was just me.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.127 ) at 12:30 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
Gar; Read a review of all 180 games currently in development for the PS2. There's quite a few good ones, and a few excellent ones. Looks like the 2 hot ones for the launch are Madden NFL 2001, and SSX. The reviewers said that Madden NFL was so realistic, you don't even realize it's a video game for quite a while. SSX is snowboard racing, but with a completely new playing style. Including combat racing like Road Rash, high flying jumps and shortcuts like the Rush series, and tricks like in Tony Hawk Skateboarding. Both games got 5 out of 5 for gameplay, graphics, and innovation. So much for the rumors that you may as well stock up on movies cause that's all you'll want to watch on the PS2 for the launch. With almost 200 games in development, the future looks bright.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.127 ) at 12:19 AM EST Thursday, October 12, 2000
TonyC; Will be heading up to Naperville this Sat. (hopefully). Unfortunately, my driver is working fri. night till 2 AM, so we'll be getting a very late start, and won't have time for a visit. Having to depend on someone else for simple stuff like this drives me NUTS! I know if I try to drive, I'll be suffering for days. Thanks for the offer, and if plans change, I'll be in touch. Sorry...
Gar ( 169.207.193.184 ) at 11:04 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
So Cal HTOC meet
Kieran: Where are you moving too? Also sounds like your friend on the east coast is enjoying his new equipment. Glad I could help.
Gar ( 169.207.193.184 ) at 11:02 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Well so far I must say the Pioneer DVD 37 is a pretty sweet player. Still like the build quality of the Sony S-7700 and 7000. But this sure beats the pants off of those players using Progressive scan. It looks like the new Pioneer Elite will be a giant killer, with a Giant price. It will do DVD-A
SACD etc... and weighing in at 53lbs. The only problem I had with the Pioneer Elite 37, is that it wouldn't play a DVD a friend sent me very well. But then again it was one of those interactive Pornos hahahahahaha.
Chasing Stacy..... I almost fell off my chair when I put this thing in. It is fricking funny and a good way to test your set of accurate fleshtones.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.105 ) at 11:02 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
So Cal HTOC meet
Oct. 22 MIGHT work... I don't have any plans, but being the last weekend that I'll be with the g/f before I move, I don't know how kindly she'll take to the idea!
Ron H ( 63.26.171.128 ) at 10:44 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
UPgrade tonight
Tony C: good deal.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.32 ) at 10:25 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houton We Have A Problem
Ron H: Sorry to hear about all the Houston bone problems. Collar bone injuries heal quickly and for good as long as you immobilize things. When my son fractured his the docs wrapped an ace bandage from neck to waist with his arm inside, hand near the front base of the neck.
At all of age 2 this was great for lots of sympathy from adults.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:41 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
UPgrade tonight
I managed to buy some new speakers for the family room,
get them in stalled and hide any evidence. The wife won't notice for about a week.
I traded in the Take One and the Take Fives I was using for Center and Surrounds in the family room. I replaced them with an Energy EXL-center and Energy Tempest (white) for the surrounds.
The Tempest is an Indoor/outdoor speaker. But they have the same tweeter as the EXL series. They were the only speakers that would angle down the way I wanted them to. I'm also using NHT Super Zeros for my front effects with the Yamaha. I'm still using the Mission Renaissanse for mains.
I got a great deal on the speakers since the guy gave me back what I paid on the Take One and Take Five.
It pays to save your boxes and packing material. Helps to take care of them too.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.128 ) at 9:33 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houton We Have A Problem
Wild Bill: Thanks for the thought. I hope I get picked to do beta test but I do not meet the requirement of having a Stewart screen at this time. I am hoping that Dan Stewart will feel guity for not following up as promised in his e-mail to me.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.128 ) at 9:26 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
JBC: I like cooking so it should not be a problem.
Gar ( 169.207.194.241 ) at 8:51 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Very lame trailer of Jurassic Park III. The making of JP was very good though.
Gar ( 169.207.194.241 ) at 8:50 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
There isn't that much diffrence between the DTS LD and the DVD DTS version.
The bass is alittle better on the LD, but not by much. My pictures were also shaking off the wall. The the T-Rex DTS LD sceen, has alittle more bass, but not much.
Derb ( 199.174.3.100 ) at 8:09 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houton We Have A Problem
Ron H: LOL poor old cat....
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.180 ) at 7:54 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Chris L. & Gasgeek: The complaints about the bass output on the Jurassic Park DVD were on the DTS version. I have the DTS version and have not found it to be lacking in LFE.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.180 ) at 7:53 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houton We Have A Problem
Ron H: Good luck to you and your wife while recuperating.
I'll bet that you'd feel a lot better if you were able to get that free Stewart screen, though...eh? I wish I qualified for that test!!
JBC ( 207.164.221.155 ) at 7:45 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Ron H: I hope Nicky heals quickly... just as an aside, are you now also required to do the cooking?
Ron H ( 63.26.164.234 ) at 7:36 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houton We Have A Problem
Derb:LOL If I do go on the roof I will make sure the fat cat is there to land on.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 7:26 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Gasgeek: I'm open for those dates, but I guess it's dependent on Kieran also being available. If not, it's not a big deal... BTW - if you still haven't sent that disc yet I've got some more options for you, so let me know.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 7:02 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
RGB and Kieran: I don't think getting together before Kieran leaves is going to happen. I have relatives coming this weekend and the next weekend I am supposed to go to Palm Springs to install an HT for my oild buddy that bought my M&K's. If I take Friday off and go to Palm Springs we might be able to swing a get together on the 21st or 22nd. Let me know.
Derb ( 199.174.7.134 ) at 6:59 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houton We Have A Problem
Ron H: What ever you do, stay off the roof. Remeber the last time
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:58 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Dino's in my living room
I concur about the opening title bass thumps. With my new Velo 18" the DD version shook the place. Scared the crap out of my wife who was in the kitchen. No loss of bass at the Gasgeek camp.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.82 ) at 6:54 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Kieran: The opening title bass thump almost shook the pictures off the wall. I scanned ahead to the T-Rex scene. There's no question that the bass is very deep and very active. I sat there practically salivating at the thought of how this baby will sound in the new room with (hopefully) no vibrations. In fact!....I am stating right here...right now that this will be the disc that I demo my new HT with and will not watch it until the room is finished.
BTW...I have the DD version.
Derb ( 199.174.7.134 ) at 6:51 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Remotes
Darian: Dan would not give me a current remote for free. Why?? I don't know but EAD just fell one notch lower on my list. He did sell me a new remote for $100.00 bucks and will fix or replace my old one for free, so I guess thats OK. Just not used to way EAD handled the whole thing. Thanx for your input and help. It atleast got me past the front desk clerk, who wasn't doing anything for me.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:59 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
well, I am headin home, hopefully with a replacement tweeter waiting! talk to yall tomorrow.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:58 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Ron, I think you guys need a vacation!
Ron H ( 63.26.171.193 ) at 5:52 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houston
I am so upset I can not spell the city I live in.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.193 ) at 5:50 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Houton We Have A Problem
Nicky my wife who is away visiting her son just called me. It seems she walkout of the house onto a wet deck and slipped. Nicky landed on her shoulder and broke her colar bone. We will make quite a pair. I have two broken ribs and she has a broken collar bone. What next????
To make it worse her 99 VW Beetle is a stick so she can't drive it. Guess who will have to commute 35 miles each way in a mini car??
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 5:05 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Darian: Thanks for the offer, but no.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.63 ) at 4:55 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
mic: BTW, I guess I sorta made up the DD 2.1 thing but you know what, if they want to release 9000 different versions of the movie in a vain attempt to appease everyone who owns a DVD player then I reserve the right to rename the surround format if it makes a light on my receiver go on. LOL!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 4:39 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
M&K
Ron, that is a little scary. Maybe they'll see it and just ship you out a new one!
I didn't make it home so I don't know if the speaker is there or not.
Scott - hell yea, the M&K's are ALL THAT! hehe and I'm not biased!
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.116 ) at 4:29 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
mic: When I choose Dolby Digital it lights up the L/R and the .1 channel on my receiver.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.116 ) at 4:26 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
M&K this M&K that :)
Scott Veirs: I still have the 600i series as surrounds. I have DM603 mains and a CDM CSE center channel. I'm not sure if I had these when you came over. I've done just a bit of upgrading since I last saw you.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.116 ) at 4:25 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Darian: I'll have to pass on the DTC-100 for now. Thanks for the heads up.
mic ( 166.68.134.163 ) at 3:48 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Wild Bill: where do did you get 2.1 from, my dts ver only has a Dolby 2.0, 2 channel Dolby Surround (prologic) no LFE (.1) channel.
Ron H ( 204.30.243.175 ) at 3:12 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Moving
David: As I said earlier if possible that is the only way to move.
Ron H ( 204.30.243.175 ) at 3:10 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
M&K this M&K that :)
Scott Veirs: M&K is a very fine speaker company. The 150 series most of us talk about are THX certified design. This means low verticle dispersion to help withj clarity of voices. The theroy is that the reflections from the ceiling and floor effect the clarity of the sound/voices. I will not take sides on this. Some rooms designs such as what JBC had to work with are best with a limited verticle dispersion speaker.
M&K is very much involved in the mixing oif movies. Their 150 speaker system was used for the mixing of, amoung other movies, the latest Star War flick. M&K speakers when mated with one of their subs are superb for movies. they also are pretty good for music though some feel they are a little up front in their sound. Visit the M&K site for info.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.20 ) at 3:06 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Moving
David: So I take it you favor G.Dubya for President, eh?
Do you still work for HP/Agilent? The thing that's difficult for me to decide, is that I share an appartment, and not EVERYTHING needs to go (i.e. my girlfriends stuff stays). So, it would be kind of hecktic for them to come an pack everything themselves. I don't know... I need to make the decision soon, because the moving company needs 2 weeks notice.
David ( 209.86.27.149 ) at 3:02 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Moving
Kieran: HP (Agilent) moved me twice. They pack everything for you and insure it. In fact, if you have anything boxed already, they unpack it and repack it themselves. Otherwise they will not insure it.
Ron H ( 204.30.243.175 ) at 3:01 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
I received a phone call from M&K before I had a chance to call them again. They gave me a R/A number to return the speaker for repair. I am little concerned about the response to my question about how long the repair may take. His respose was "We are quite backed up in the repair shop". Yikes
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:58 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
JUst kidding... more or less. Myer is getting pretty bad about not stocking things. I can't understand why people will give them money with out so much as a loaner. If you are going to have to wait weeks I would demand a loaner of something. Most things we carry we can get in 1 to 7 days. As an install company we don't have to have gear this second. We order the gear with plent of time. Usually we even have the stuff at the office for a week or two till the site is ready.
Its a fine line with carrying gear. Where I work we have a pretty set opinion. If we wouldn't want it... we won't sell it to you. This pays off 2 ways.
1. We are pretty knowledgeable about what we carry as most of us own the stuff.
2. Our gear can usually serve as loaners.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:53 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Scott Veirs: Cinepro and EAD are it... and that is that... NOW GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 2:48 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
M&K this M&K that :)
Hey guys, everyone seems to always talk about M&K stuff...never heard it before....is it really all that? Or do you all just happen to have it already?
Wild Bill: Do you still have all those B&W's? I remember you having the older series as surround. Did you upgrade those ever? If so what did you do with the old ones?
Scott
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 2:44 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
System...BAH!
Carlos: Good idea, but they are order only, they dont have displays. I have not even heard them yet. Just knowing they are B&W works for me.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 2:43 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
System...BAH!
Curtis: only 20% down, refundable
Gar ( 169.207.193.159 ) at 2:42 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
I just did a quick test of the LD and the DVD DTS version, using only that one scene.
Gar ( 169.207.193.159 ) at 2:42 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
RGB: Yes, I do. The LD version has more bass. Not alot, but more. But the dialogue was better on the DVD version.
Gar ( 169.207.193.159 ) at 2:40 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Well did a quick test, on 1-11 on the DVD. That be the Part were T-Rex eats the goat. The bass is a Tad week, but nothing a few tweaks can't cure. I Increase the output of the Sub, and adjusted the level of the Sony Pre/Pro this seemed to trick. It will be interesting to see if the DD version is any better.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 2:39 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Gar: Do you also have the DTS LD for comparison between the two?
Gar ( 169.207.193.55 ) at 2:14 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Kieran: Ok I am going to fire this baby up. Just got DTS Disc yesterday and I have been reading this also. Since my Wife and Son aren't here time to give it a quick test. Be back in a few.....
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:50 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
JohnO. Lets get Bill in our out on this. Sonic??? Are you interested? CAI did you ever go to Speaker Factory and Check on the DiSH 6000.
We also have DVDO at work now.
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 1:15 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Happy birthday newt!
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 1:15 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Kieran: -
I saw that thread, too. So far, I've been unable to get control of the TV at a point where my son isn't there(too young for parts of JP), so haven't been able to check the LFE out on my DTS version.
I'm gonna be really disappointed if this marquee title has such a noticable defect as people are reporting...
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 12:40 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
Kieran: Yeah - I've got the DTS LDs of both Jurrasic Parks. Don't have the DVDs yet though. No problem with bass on the LD, I'll be curious to hear what the DVDs are like.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.37 ) at 12:09 PM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Jurassic Park
So, have any of you been reading all the hub-bub about this over at HTF? LOTS of people are claiming that the dts disc (and maybe the dd disc too) is lacking BIG TIME in the bass department for what should be a very "bass-rich" movie.
I'd love to hear from some of you guys out there that have this disc. What do you think? Did the bass knock you down, or was it just so-so? If any of you also have the dts LD (RGB, I know you do) I'd love to hear a comparison review.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:16 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Remotes
Derb: You can probably get EADs most current remote for free if your remote is defective. Call EAD and talk to Dan Sperry. The price of the current remote that is shipped with the unit is $191.00. Some owners like it.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 10:10 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Darian: I am in for one at around $500. Tell me an exact number and method of payment you want (cash, check, money order, etc.).
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:59 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
I thought this was kinda funny so I'll share it. I converted 3 people over the past weekend to the HT side.
A buddy at work asked if I could help him with a system for his small apt. He didn't want to spend much so we ended up getting a sony HT in a box from best buy friday after work. $418 for receiver and speakers. I was pretty surprised at the sound for only spending $418. He was very happy.
He talked to his dad who offered to pay me to come take a look at his system because it didn't sound quite right. Went over there yesterday at lunch. Well, the first problem was he bought bose and a JVC receiver and was listening to dvd's in pro logic. Once I showed him how to switch it to DD and adjusted the speaker levels, he was shocked. I showed him my avia disc and told him he may want to consider another sub if he really wanted to get some more impact. I think I saw him getting in his car to go to BB as I was leaving. hehe
Sat. I helped another friend set up his HT. He had an area over his garage that he wanted to convert so I told him what I thought he should do and he pretty much did it. The room was 99% complete on sat. I ordered him a denon 4800 and psb speakers. Set everything up and WOW. I can't wait to have a dedicated media room. One wall has a built in entertainment center that houses his TN61X81 and the gear. The rear of the entertainment center is accessable from a closet which made hooking everything up a breeze. He also built in an enclosed bar as part of the right side of the ent. center which has sink, frig, microwave. We rewired the lights with remote on/off and dimmer controls and put light blocking shades up. There are two insulated walls dividing the media room from the rest of the house and with the HT cranked up, you can't hear it from the house (very cool).
He insisted on putting the speakers inside the ent. center so they would be outta the way. Dooohhhhhhh I tried to show him how it sounded better out of the cabinet but he thought it was only a minor improvement and preferred them in the cabinet where his 3 small kids can't mess with them. (well OK). He has 5 sat. receivers in his house so we are gonna add 2 more 25" tvs to the top of the ent. center so he can watch multiple games at the same time. (he'a a big football fan)
Then another friend called me asking for advice and help with some gear the other day. I think I need to start consulting. This is fun!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:43 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
I may run home at lunch and check. I refrained from watching JP or lost world hoping that I could replace the tweeter first. (well, I did take a peak at JP)
Ron H ( 207.221.158.238 ) at 9:35 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
M&K
BC: Lets hope you have good news.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:30 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
M&K
Hey Ron, well I got home last night and had a note from UPS. They left the package in the office and the office was already closed when I got home. I am thinking it might be from M&K as I already got lost world and jurassic park. I'll find out tonight. I'm not expecting another package so....
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 8:16 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Good moening gang...
Ron H: Anytime. Let me know if it helps.
newt: Happy birthday...
Ron H ( 204.30.243.15 ) at 8:10 AM EST Wednesday, October 11, 2000
Good Morning all.
Ron H ( 63.26.184.161 ) at 10:18 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
JBC: Thanks
JBC ( 207.164.221.186 ) at 9:41 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Later guys... speak to you tomorrow.....
Ron H ( 63.26.184.161 ) at 9:33 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
My poor cat!!! LOL
Derb ( 199.174.4.93 ) at 9:21 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Pets
Tony C: Looks like more hair than fat on Joe's dog. My vote goes to the Fat Cat
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:13 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Pets
OK. Which one is fatter?
Joe's dog or Ron's cat?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:11 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
DD vs. dts
Went to buy JP tonight.
There I stood with one of each looking first at one and then the other.
I finally decided on the DD version because I thought there may be times when the kids would have to (or want to) play it upstairs, and I don't have dts upstairs.
I'm going to play it now and see how it looks/sounds.
JBC ( 207.164.221.165 ) at 8:53 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
BC, Ron H: Somwhere buried in my files I have the direct dial phone number for a couple of the guys at M&K. Do you want me to dig these out for you? If so, just let me know.....
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.174 ) at 8:22 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
RGB: My understanding is that the boxed set is DD only. That's what I found when I looked today.
BTW, there is an uproar over supposed lack of bass in the DTS version of Jurassic Park. I felt that there was a tremendous amount of LFE in the DVD I purchased. Some are claiming that it is just a west coast thing. All I know is that my copy is fine. The Lost World definitely has a TON of LFE. I'm exchanging my copy of Jurassic Park tomorrow. They used the little pins on the center of the keeper and several pins were broken in the case. The DVD cannot be secured in the case. The Lost World shipped with a different center and is secure.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 8:08 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
WOW
dudes! I was watching tv tonight, I saw a commercial for Pontiac. Seems they have an engine equipped with 16 valves and dual over head camshafts in one of their cars. and it is only the year 2000! how did they do that?!?
Ron H ( 63.26.184.74 ) at 8:03 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
PSA
Curtis:I agree about the RCA. I just finished Entrapment in HD. Nice eye candy. Even better will be Dark Angel on Fox at 8:oo PM tonight. Three Kings is on the HBO HD channel now in DD 5.1.
Joe ( 205.188.195.21 ) at 7:50 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Kieran
WhaAAATTTTSssssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppp
My fellow unemployed bum If you are really bored I am caulking and insulating in the morning. I also have 2 sinktops to set, paint to pick out for bathroom, and learn how to do that soft cloudy look.
Joe ( 205.188.195.21 ) at 7:46 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Chris
I belive you can frame in for aRPTV and still have the option of changing.
My thoughts before I start. I plan on the framing to allow a shelf system on the right side of the RPTV. The left side will also have a shelf system, just not as deep. I have to consider my door enterance.
Seen here
http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=show_photo&ID_Community=JoeAnniesremodeling&ID_Topic=1&ID_Message=27
I will double the 4x2 on the sides of the shelfing system. This will allow the ability to remove the center framing without disturbing the shelfs on both sides.
Taking into consideration I am looking at a 100" 16x9 screen in the future. I will also double the plate to work as a mini header in case of removal on center section. The Toshiba I now have (55") will just sit in the center of a rough opening, that is not to tight. I want room to move it in and out if needed. Some nice trim could be used to slid up to thevside of the set and give it a tight fit. If I need to move it a cats paw would pop the trim easy
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 7:31 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
Is the DTS versions of JP also available in the box set, or just the DD version?
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 7:30 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
PSA
Wild Bill: or JohnO. In the event that one of you decides to get an RCA DCT-100 (trust me, you DO want it), a guy over on the AVS forum has something you want
I have a new RCA
elliptal dish with two LNB and multi-switch for sale cheap. Email me if interested.
don035@home.com
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.174 ) at 7:27 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
Gar: OK, I checked. The Dolby Digital track on the DTS versions is NOT DD 5.1. It is DD 2.1 (DD 2.0 plus the .1 channel).
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.174 ) at 7:22 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
Wild Bill: I was APALLED to see a full screen version double set of the movies at Best Buy. It makes no sense at all IMHO. How can we expect to educate the average Joe (not our Joe) about OAR if the industry doesn't fully support it?
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.174 ) at 7:20 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
Gar: I got DTS for both. Since Jurassic Park was the first movie released in the DTS format I felt compelled to stick with DTS. Some extra footage (making of, trailers) but not much. I saw a guy buying the DD box set but I passed. BTW, the DTS version asks if you want DTS or DD at the beginning. I haven't checked to see if the DD is 5.1. I presume that it is but I could be wrong. I'm not big on extras. I like to have them but rarely check them out. I may end up with two versions in the future but the DTS version of Jurassic Park sounded very good to me. Only time will tell.
Gar ( 169.207.192.98 ) at 7:10 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
Wild Bill: What copy did you get since there are a few choices? DTS? Dolby Digital, and is it the one with all the different footage? Thanks
Gar
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 6:52 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
baaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, still at work and i have jurassic park and lost world sitting at home waiting for me! go faster computer, faster...
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 6:49 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
Wild Bill: What's that, Bill? You're so impressed that you want to have another NoVA Thing? Well, if you want to...
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 6:37 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
I am with you. time to talk to miller and kriesel themselves!
Ron H ( 63.26.184.200 ) at 6:27 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Well so much for customer service. I have a phone call (voice mail) unanswered since Friday and a e-mail from early today unanswered from M&K. In a few days it will be time to get nasty. BC are you with me?
Ron H ( 63.26.184.200 ) at 6:24 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Revised
What happened:I have not moved myself for along time and would not consider it even if it meant
Ron H ( 63.26.184.200 ) at 6:22 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
ve not moved myself for along time and would consider it even if it ment I saved $2,000. It just nis not worth the headache, the time, nor the concern what happens if I break something. My last 4 or 5 moves have been of the type where the moving company comes to the house, they pack everything in the house and then load it on the truck My family and I catch a plane, in a couple of days the movers arrive and put everything where I want it. No fuss no muss.
If they break something such as piece of electronics it is no big deal as they will cut you a check for replacement value. One could possibly come out ahead on the deal. All it takes is some quotes at list price from a few vendors you know well.
As far as I am concerned other than a slight inconvience I could care if my whole HT system fell off the truck. It would be upgrade time with none or little cost to me.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 5:54 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
... plan on having the whole set recalibrated when you're done. Even a couple of miles travel can throw things off, no less 500. The only problem if it were now with moving it in your truck bed is that it's raing up here.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 5:52 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Moving
Kieran: You're asking someone who admitted to trashing one?! In addition to your plan I would 1st wrap the whole thing in that extra wide saranwrap stuff. Then I would either try to find an original shipping carton from a Tosh dealer or have a pro actually crate the thing up off its wheels, pref with shock indicators (those glass things designed to break at the 1st sign of stress).
This is how big old mainframes are shipped. I can probably hook you up with a crating outfit near you as I used to be in that biz.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 5:36 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Moving
Curtis: Well, what can I say? I can either take $5250.00 in cash and do everything myself, or take $3625 in cash and they'll hire a moving company for me. I thought that having a moving company wasn't worth almost $1600.
Do you have any suggestions about how I should pack the TV? Here's what I was going to do: wrap it up well in those padded moving blankets, and strap it fairly tightly, to the back (forward most) wall of the UHaul trailer, with the screen facing the wall. Or, I could strap it in the bed of my truck, in a similar manner, up against the cab. Either way, it's going to see vibration, and I thought the shocks in the UHaul trailer might be better suited for a "cushy" ride than my off road ready 4x4 Dakota, which will be towing the trailer.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 5:26 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Moving
Kieran: Well be extra ultra carefull moving that RP. You wouldn't believe how easy it is to really mess it up. With a single hard brake to avoid a stupid rich lady cutting me off I trashed a Sony 61" screen & 2 boards once doing a 2 mile move to save a few bucks. I "saved" -$850. If a mover does damage they'll pay, esp. in a corporate relocation.
BYork ( 204.151.114.18 ) at 5:26 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
buy.com sucks the big dingle-berry
Kieran: -
Really strange...my copy from buy.com came in the mail LAST FRIDAY. You'd think they'd either send them all out early, or all out late...
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 5:21 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
Wild Bill: Go ahead, rub it in....
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 5:21 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Present
Wild Bill: ROLFLMAO!
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 5:19 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Wild Bill: HEY!!! She enjoyed her morning present very much, thankyou! In fact she enjoyed it three times in a row... As for her OTHER present, well THAT was just a measley Victorinox Swiss Army watch that she'd been eyeing at Nordstroms for the last 6 weeks.
Curtis: I haven't even had any coffee yet today! Good thing, huh? I might have mauled the mail man!
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 5:13 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Curtis: Hah! As if I'd let a bunch of jar-head movers take my HT!!! I'm moving myself thankyou verymuch. And pocketing the cash from the relocation package to boot! 
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.91 ) at 5:11 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Kieran: She considered THAT a present. Definitely a girlfriend and not a wife. LOL! And what did she get for her birthday. We now know what you got.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.91 ) at 5:10 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Jurassic Park
So far this transfer definitely qualifies as reference quality. It is pristine. Vibrant colors and a clear sharp image. The sound is also reference quality IMHO.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 5:10 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Kieran: Okay, okay already! I was too lazy to read who said what in between B.D.'s original post and your most recent reply.
Sorry about your JP. If you're this upset over 1 DVD we can't wait to see what happens when your movers have your whole HT for days/weeks. Try the decaf dude
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 5:09 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Wild Bill: LOL! No that can't be it, because both the g/f and I enjoyed her birthday morning present yesterday....
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 5:07 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
BTW, most of the problems I mentioned about the 1050 receiver can be read in Sound & Vision's review of the receiver here. They give the receiver an overall positive review, but still itemized their concerns. Being that Sound & Vision is not usually the most unbiased publication when it comes to reviews, the fact that they say anything bad about a product might mean a lot.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.99 ) at 5:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Kieran: Hmmm...Kitten's "serious sexual frustrations" seems to have migrated to the left coast. LOL!! I hope your JP DVD arrives tommorow. I picked my set up today at Best Buy. The Jurassic Park DVD was loose in the case! So far there is no problem during playback but I think I'll exchange it for a pristine copy anyway.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 5:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Kieran: Please don't beat around the bush... Tell us what you really think!
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 5:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
coax install through glass?
Curtis: I found what I need for the DSS line called the GlassLink from ChannelPlus. Not cheap but so fancy it has a US patent. I forgot that DSS also carries power via coax so it's a bit trickier than I thought. At these prices I think I'll just drill away at the wooden beams.
Wild Bill & Darian may want to know about these in case they run into installs where the client refuses to allow any holes drilled.
http://www.channelplus.com/images/products/1111.jpg
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 5:02 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Curtis: I was NOT suggesting the RX-V3000 instead of the Outlaw 1050!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
How many times do I have to say this? B.D. said he was considering the 1050 and the 3000. Those two receivers seemed way out of range from each other to be considering both. I've said this too many times now, but here it is again:
If one's budget is around $500 - $700 then the 1050 looks like a GREAT receiver.HOWEVER!!If your budget is closer to $1000, I think one can do a lot better. I've seen the Denon 3801 for close to $900.
OKAY??? I was not suggesting the Yamaha 3000. It was B.D. that mentioned it, and I was trying to suggest that the two were not really comparable.
If this is coming across a little harsh, its because I'm still PISSED OFF that I didn't get JP today!
Have a nice day!
Kieran ( 134.139.23.22 ) at 4:52 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
buy.com sucks the big dingle-berry
Well, my mail just arrived, and guess what hugely anticipated blockbuster movie dvd did NOT arrive with my mail today? That's right Buy.com choked big time. I'm now 1 day and counting late getting my Jurassic Park in DTS. I swear, this is the LAST TIME I pre-order a dvd like that. I could just drive over to Best Buy and pick it up right now, but I have to wait. I'm PISSED!!!!! 
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:31 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Wild Bill: I thought that might be it, but wasn't for sure. I was getting pretty tired myself by the time that was discussed.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.99 ) at 4:25 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
SonicBit: The post from Darian should have been to JohnO and me. Darian is trying to hook us up with RCA DTC100s for HDTV. I'm thinking about it.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 4:21 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
coax install through glass?
Curtis: I'm assuming you mean the kits that connect on each side of the glass plate that allows you not to drill any holes? If so, I don't have any myself, but heard they work quite well.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 4:16 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
coax install through glass?
I need to run 3 x coax cables into my house (2 x antenni + DSS). The entire wall I need to run through is floor to ceiling glass with very thick beams at the floor & ceiling. Trying not to drill a big hole in them if I don't have to. Have any of you used the through-glass coax connector kits & if so do they work well?
Rat Shack can special order them, part #1185-1201 for around $20 per wire. Xantech (sp) makes one for $200! each.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:45 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Darian: Ummm, I didn't think you were looking for one for me. Actually, I'm not exactly sure what you were looking for. Was it what you brought to Wild Bill's house?
Thanks anyway!
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 3:28 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Curtis: Satisfied customer #3 here with the Outlaw amp.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 3:28 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Kieran: ... to your credit you did mention problems on the Outlaw posted somewhere around the Net. If I don't know the source I always take these opinions with a grain of salt because there could be some agenda behind the opinion. To me it's amazing one can even buy a 6.1 DD/DTS receiver for $600 - yet I would expect the thing to work or at least want to see the manufacturer make things right quickly.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.35 ) at 3:27 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
Scott "popcorn": The enclosure would not be a permanent wall....if I decide to build it. I already have the front wall framed in for speaker and connections with plenty of room left for a future FP screen, I was just going to build a temp wall in front of that to hold the RP. But you're right, I may, for now, just set everything up the way it is and see how it all looks and sounds. Plus I just bought $300 speaker stands, I need to show them off.
Thanks for the advice!
Curtis ( 206.170.6.35 ) at 3:19 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Kieran: I have no direct experience with either the Yamaha's or Outlaw, except that 2 picky musician friends who own the Outlaw amps are very happy with them. The problem with HT budgets is that it's SOOO easy to go over them. I got the impression that when B.D. said "but had
to scale way way way back", he means it.
He listed $600 receivers and you're responding with stuff ranging from $1 to $2K. Not meaning to flame you & I know you're suggesting great gear, but let's keep the guy within his budget. As an example I know for a fact that a Sony G90 FP is going to give a superior picture to a D50 or better yet two 90's stacked. As much as I would love to have that it is several multiples higher than what I can afford.
So I don't even contemplate going there (price). As the Stones would say you can't always get what you want - but if you try sometimes ...
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.4 ) at 3:17 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Kieran: Fair enough. You've made some good points. Your initial assessment of the Outlaw seemed unlike you. But then again, You are currently an unemployed bum for the next couple of weeks and your outlook may change again opnce you are among the working masses again. LOL!
Ron H ( 207.94.192.147 ) at 3:11 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
M&K
BC: I understand about one tweeter not working and its effect on the sound. I do not have any highs from the sides or front.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:00 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
M&K
Ron: well, I rearranged the room to get the speakers directly behind me instead of off to the side. I haven't got around to hiding the wires yet so they are draped across the floor and up the wall. and OOOOPPPPS, I tripped and down came the speaker! That was about 3 weeks ago. It's amazing what one missing tweeter will do to the sound! I'm in an apt. and there just isn't a great way to lay everything out the way I want and hide wires, etc. I'll send you a pic and you'll see what I mean.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.180 ) at 1:47 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
Chris L.: The only problem I have with the enclosed TV idea is that what happens when the HT bug bites again, and you want a bigger screen? (or a FP?)... As was mentioned by others, just building a box around the speakers will deteriorate the sound (not to mention the enclosure will make a MUCH larger relative baffle for the highs to reflect off of, reducing the imaging of the speakers) I would avoid the enclosure altogether, unless you want to build something that isn't directly attached to the room at a later time (after the room is finished) Again, my opinion.
Ron H ( 204.30.243.107 ) at 1:36 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
M&K'S
BC: I left a voice mail with Floyd on Friday morning and have not heard from them yet. I sent a e-mail to Bob at Avalon about the problem and also sent a copy of it to M&K.
What caused your speaker to break?
Derb ( 208.134.148.107 ) at 1:28 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Remote
Darian: I read your help page for EAD. So basically what EAD has done is make remarkable pre-pro with a chassis that indestructible. With no access to any buttons with the remote being the weakest link.
I guess I'll ask them for a free remote and head up the ladder from there, any suggestion on who I should be talking with.
What would you charge for a new Pronto already programmed with the Ovation commands?
Kieran ( 134.139.23.67 ) at 1:16 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Outlaw
Wild Bill: Okay, let me re-word my oppinion on the 1050. If you're looking for a receiver in the $500 - $700 range, the 1050 is probably the best buy out there. If your budget is over $800, then I think there may be better options out there. If you budget is in the range of say the RX-V3000, then the 1050 shouldn't even be a consideration.
Some of the things that bugged me about the 1050:
Their proprietary matrix 6.1 decoding can't be applied to DTS signals (but it can be applied to the analog 5.1 inputs for an external decoder... why not dts?).
The bass management doesn't work on the rear center channel in 6.1 mode, so the rear center channel is essentially always set to "large."
There was something about the receiver getting stuck in 6.1 mode, too.... probably a problem that will get fixed in a new firmware revision or something though.
I thought that there was an issue with s-video switching, but I can't find nor remember what it was.
Again, I'm not saying that the 1050 is a bad receiver. For the price, it's great, maybe even the best in its price range. But I don't think it could compete with the likes of say, the Denon AVR-3801 (available for around $1000) or the Yamaha RX-V3000 (don't know what that will go for, but probably close to $1500 - $2000.)
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 12:38 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
watching HD
Make that CBS...
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 12:36 PM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
watching HD
Curtis: Agreed. I hope the other networks can soon catch up to what CHS is offering in HD - 17 out of 18 weekly shows! 
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:58 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
I meant did you ever talk to someone at M&K? so much for typing and breathing at the same time!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:58 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
M&K'S
Ron, did you have talk to someone at M&K. I still haven't recieved my tweeter and they don't like to answer the phone or reply to emails. GRRRRRR
Kieran ( 134.139.23.125 ) at 11:49 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Wild Bill: I base my oppinions on reviews from owners that I've read on HTF. I'm not saying that these owners were displeased, but the features and specs seemed lacking to me, compared to say, the Yamaha 795a (except that the 795a doesn't do 6.1). Also, while it is commendable that the Outlaw tested true at its rated power of 65 wpc, Yamahas have had that bragging right for some time. In fact Yamaha usually rates their RX-V line of receivers a little low, considering what their capabilities are. Besides, the Outlaw's 65 wpc rating is done with only 3 of the six channels driven. Yamaha ratings are usually done with "all channels driven". Granted, the Yamaha doesn't do 6.1, I'll give the Outlaw that. Also, it wasn't my intention to compare the 2095 to the 1050. It was B.D. who was saying that he was considering either an RX-V3000 or a 1050. I was surprised that he was comparing these two, being that the 3000 is the replacement for the 2095, which is IMO, a much better receiver than the 1050, 6.1 capability or not. BTW, the RX-V3000 does indeed have full 6.1 capability for both DD and DTS. Again, I am NOT comparing the 3000 to the 1050. They are in completely different leagues. Which is what I was trying to point out in my previous post. Off hand, I can't remember what it was precisely that really turned me off from the Outlaw. I'll try to do a search and see if I can remember, but it was something with the video switching, or something like that, I think.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:45 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
WildBill, JohnO, Sonic: Can have them this Thursday. Looks like it will be in the $500 range.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.166 ) at 11:10 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
watching HD
A few of us old guys will remember the early days of color television. I clearly remember my entire family wacthing programs that we would otherwise ignore, simply because it was in color. NBC was way ahead of the other networks as I recall. Damn if those Cartwright boys didn't look cool. When The Ed Sullivan Show started in color we were sure we had all died & gone to heaven.
I get the same thrill watching most of CBS' primetime HD lineup today. I'm no couch potato and I usually demand good writing/acting but it's hard to turn off something that's so easy on the eyes. It's just as well that MNF cancelled HD because I would surely be sucked in every game. CBS deserves major kudos for delivering the best technology available.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.128 ) at 11:10 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
System...BAH!
Carlos: Good suggestion but his dealer is Myer Emco and when it comes to loaners, good service, knowledge, etc., they basically suck!
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 11:07 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
System...BAH!
Scott Veirs: I waited about 7 months to get my center channel speaker and 2 months for my sub. My dealer ended up giving me loaners until they came in. See if your dealer will do that for you.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.166 ) at 10:41 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
System...BAH!
Scott Veirs: As my kids would say "man that sucks". Hang in there a little longer and feel free to cancel if they miss the current target date. You didn't pay for them yet, right?
Ron H ( 207.94.192.87 ) at 10:30 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
System...BAH!
Scott Veirs: Yikes!!!!
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 10:24 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
typo
and if we cant get this sorry quality service of yours fixed, (is what it should have said.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 10:22 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
System...BAH!
I STILL! dont have my speakers I ordered from MyerEmco. Its been over a month now.
The told me "Oh yes, we just ordered those 2 days ago" (this was 1.5 weeks later)
"2 days ago?? I ordered those over a week ago"
"yes sir, we had to wait in order to place a full "lot" first"
"WHAT?!, well why didnt anyone tell me this when I placed it?"
"sorry sir I dont know" "fine, how long will it take?"
"about a week to 10 days".....(8-9 days later)
"hello, this is scott veirs, did my B&W DS6's come in yet or whats the status on that?"
"hi (same person i talked to before), no, they have not come in yet, they should be a couple days"
"ok thanks"
(couple days later)
"hi this is scott veirs again" "I'm sorry, they still have not come in, they are on back order"
"GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" (i wont repeat my words other than the fact that i wasnt happy)
"Ok, this is what i want you to do, I want you to call them, find out when they will be out here and if they cant get them to me soon, i will have to talk to Angelo (mngr and guy i always deal with nice guy) and if we cant get this sorry quality, I will call the company in richmond that carries B&W"
He called me back the next day and told me they would be in on Friday....I'm waiting....and yes, I will be calling on friday!
Otherwise, the rest is doing great hah!
Ron H ( 207.94.192.87 ) at 9:32 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
good morning
Scott Veirs: Good morning. How is the system doing?
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 9:12 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
good morning
Greetings everyone.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.166 ) at 9:05 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Ever notice that the Yamaha receiver model #'s begin with RX, as in prescription for an illness?
Wild Bill gave an incomplete disclaimer - didn't say he wasn't an Outlaw
Wild Bill ( 63.38.153.38 ) at 8:42 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
Chris L.: It depends on the enclosure. My center channel is in an enclosure but the enclosure is quite large and is vented. I wouldn;t simply build a box around the speaker. I think that would have an adverse affect on the sound. You will degrade the sound quality, period. Building the RPTV in is a good idea IMO.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.153.38 ) at 8:39 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Kieran: Wow, I'm surpirsed by your views of the Outlaw receiver. AFAIK, it has the BEST feature set and is more flexible than ny $599 receiver on the market. The Yamaha 2095 retailed for over $1500 if I'm correct and has much less capability than the Outlaw (i.e. DTS, EX, 6.1, bass management). You're comparing apples to oranges and the apple that costs more still doesn't stack up. If your assessment is based on the 65wpc of the Outlaw then I think the logic is flawed. The reviews of the Outlaw have been outstanding and it has tested at its rated power output. That can be said of VERY few receivers on the market today. Besides, doubling the power (like the Denon 5800) only yields about 3 more db of headroom (if my memory is correct). Please note that I don't work for Outlaw nor am I an owner. JMHO
Ron H ( 207.94.192.87 ) at 8:37 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
Chris L.: As long as the enclosure does not have a big effect on the sound of your speakers it would be cool. It would give a true theater effect.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 8:20 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Good morning gang..
Chris L: AN enclosed RPTV and speakers is very cool...
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.201 ) at 8:07 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
Scott "popcorn"\Tony C: Okay...makes sense. But what about enclosing the fronts? Or should I ditch the whole idea of an enclosed RPTV and front speakers? I'm so confused!
Ron H ( 205.230.159.47 ) at 6:28 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
pre/pro questions
BIG AL: The Lex offers 40-80 and 120 cross overs. The sub output also adds a crossover off setting. I have my Pronto programed to make balance adjusments on the fly but rarely make use of it. Each input and each FX allows to to set the balances individualy.
So you can have your levels or balance set one way for movies DD, another for THX, another for music, and so on.
For the remotes get a Pronto and it is not a issue.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.76 ) at 1:30 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
BIG AL: Don't you live on the east coast???? Go to bed!!!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.85 ) at 1:23 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
RGB; I have a Pronto too, but as yet haven't tackled programming it. I have a feeling, that when I finally get it done, the wife will use the easiest remote till she's used to the Pronto.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.85 ) at 1:20 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
OOOPS! I just noticed...there should've been a TIA at the end of my question post. So RGB, thanks for the response!
Kieran ( 134.139.23.76 ) at 1:20 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
B.D.: I've yet to listen to one, but I've been extremely underwhelmed by the specs and reviews of the new Outlaw receiver. Their 5 channel amp, the 750, I am very impressed with, but the 1050 receiver is definitely NOT on par with stellar receiver like the Yamaha RX-V2095, which the RX-V3000 (which you mentioned) replaces. Again, I've not listened to one, but the 1050 as far as I can tell from reading specs and reviews, is more along the lines of the Yamaha RX-V596, and even then it falls short on a few features points (IMHO).
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.85 ) at 1:18 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
On the fly
RGB; On my Yammie you don't have to enter a menu system to adjust channel levels. You can toggle through center,surr.L,surr.R,sub, and delay, then adjust the level of the selected channel during a movie, music, whatever. It makes it easy to reduce the output of my sub for music, or increase it for movies while listening to result.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.76 ) at 1:07 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
TW65H80
Curtis: It's a possibility. Not so much for me, as for my Dad, who, IMHO desperately needs to upgrade his display device. (currently a 27" ca. 1989 Magnovox) He bought into DD5.1, DVD, and DSS within the last 2 years... And they (he and Mom) hate letterboxing, and love movies, so a big widescreen might sound attractive to them. Let me know what happens with your friend. No guarantees, though.
RGB ( 64.200.1.151 ) at 1:00 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
pre/pro questions
BIG AL: I can't speak for the Lex, but since I have the Sony preamp I can tell you its crossovers - 40Hz - 120Hz in 20Hz steps. I don't know what you mean by "on the fly" adjustments, you need to go into the menu and set it up. Yes, the Sony's remote isn't the best, but I've got a Pronto and it heals all my remote ails.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.85 ) at 12:52 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
Kitten; Excellent review, and summation of the evening. Just be glad they weren't critiquing audio components, or you would've had to endure short clips of songs too! A household tip for cutting up peppers, wear rubber gloves (thin surgical type). A lesson I learned cleaning habaneros. As for the sexual frustrations, I won't go there.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.85 ) at 12:42 AM EST Tuesday, October 10, 2000
pre/pro questions
OK guys, a couple questions; I thought the Lex DC-2 and the Sony had multiple x-over points, but I can't find them in either company's lit. What are the sub x-over points? Can either one adjust channel levels on the fly (something I really love on my Yammie for adjusting sub levels from movie to music)? Are the remotes as bad as I've read? TIA
JBC ( 207.164.221.231 ) at 10:31 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
B.D.: With respect to the M&Ks, please note:
1. The 500 series you refer to is uround speaker that us part of the 5000 system (yes, there is an extra zero). This is their top of the line system and is great -- I own the 150 system, which is one version down, and love it. Perhaps you meant, due to your budget, the 750 system which is also very very sweet!
2. Remember that the M&Ks are a sub/satellite which means that you will need sdub for both music and HT. Some folks do not like using a sun for music but, as they only go down to 80Hz, you will need one!
Gar ( 169.207.194.248 ) at 9:55 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Ron H/All
The BigpictureDVD.com sucks! I have posted a few post on helpful information and they keep deleting it saying it is a conflict of interest.
You can't even post a link there with out them freaking out. That place is a communist website. The latest post I had was on the Sony DVD upgrade that MSB Tech is doing, and they erased it, no warning or explanation, just poof and it was gone. Bastards!
AVB ( 64.41.32.182 ) at 9:46 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Inline Fuses
cai: It really depends on the amp and what type of protection it has in it. When I worked for JBL there was a Bose showroom across the street and they used to take the Bose 1801 amp, hook up some zip cord with a plug on it, attach the other end to the speaker terminals and then plug it in to show how indestrucable their amp was. Pretty impressive at the time. More so when they played music from the "A" terminals while the "B" was pluged in the wall. McIntosh has internal circuits for protection and the Crown went the cheaper route of external fuses.
As long as you NEVER short the wires the fuses aren't needed but why take the chance?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.49.7 ) at 9:33 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
Chris L: I agree with Tony C... Leave that sub out in the room!
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 9:29 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Inline Fuses
I was doing a little bit of updating, new speaker wires, to my old Crown system and refound the inline fuses from the amp to the speakers. I also found the manual for the amp and in there they said that the fuses were for protecting the amp, not the speakers. I guess what they do is short out if contact is made between live black and red wires.
My questions are: will this scheme work in any amp? Is the sound degradation very noticeable and is this the reason why it is not used more widely? Is it prudent to connect these speakers, Dahlquist 10s, without the fuses? Physics suggest one thing but maybe there is no real reason to make this kind of inline connection.
Your opinions are appreciated.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 8:34 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Tonight's gam
Tony C: You CAN'T go to work...you've lost the ability to spell fever!!!
Is there a doctor in the Forum?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:27 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Tonight's gam
Robert: Man they've really been screwing things up.
I had to work all weekend. Right now, I feel like I'm coming down with something. Oh, that was a cough. Yes, I think I have a feaver.
Better send an email now and let them know I have to see my doctor.
He's got a great bass boat.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:08 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
JBC: Ah yes, you're still a newly wed. Give it time.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:07 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
Chris L.: I don't no Chris. I would think that you may want to try that sub in different locations or at different angles. I would be hesitant to make something like that perminent before testing it out.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.103 ) at 7:53 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Thayt=southern version of that.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.103 ) at 7:53 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Tonight's gam
Robert: Thayt is sad. Sorry to hear that.
AVB ( 64.41.33.204 ) at 7:14 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
System
B.D.: I guess we need to know your budget and what you already have. I've always liked Yamaha myself but know little about the Outlaw.
Robert ( 63.83.249.3 ) at 7:04 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Tonight's gam
The employer has yet again screwed up my personal life,,, at least wifey get to go to the game tonight,,,she'll be waving from the 45 yard line about 17 rows up. I'm in Smell A (LA).
Ron H ( 63.26.184.173 ) at 7:00 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
B.D.: The outlaw has had a lot of rave reviews and a lot of good comments from its owners. Call Tom at Cinema Source for info and a price.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.188 ) at 6:59 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Curtis
Kieran: Youbettcha. A friend who has been oogling it for a while really wants it and is doing his best WAF selling job as I write. Would you care to be next in line if he falls through since you'll be going right past me?
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 6:56 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
Wild Bill: Just called Markertek about those cables. They don't make a VGA to 3 BNC cable, but do make one that breaks out to 4, and it's $48. I got my VGA to 5 BNC for my HD receiver from Frys Electronics, and that only cost me $30 for a 6' cable. I may go that route, but thanks for the info.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:26 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
WildBill: Will stop into the office tomorrow to do some stuff. I will check on the DTC 100 thing then.
CAI: The store near me has a DiSH 6000 instock. Thats what they said... A DISH 6000. It is the speakerfactory. The place we went to listen to the MOnitor Audio Silvers. I might need to get the new iScan or maybe do some design work on the DVD level.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.184 ) at 6:20 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
RGB: I got a VGA to 4BNC from Markertek for about $40. The 5 are more expensive so I'm guessing a 3 BNC would be even less. I got my cables the day after the order. They're knowledgeable and efficient.
B.D. ( 168.191.159.19 ) at 5:54 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Hello everyone, It's been a while since I've been on the forum. I've been adopting my grandbaby. I hope the lawyers have great home theaters because I paid them enough, but its worth it!!! Needless to say I'm back in the hunt but had to scale way way way back. Intead of the MC-1 or Proceed I am looking for an entry level system. Has any one got any recommendations? The Outlaw 1050 sounds good along with the Yamaha RX-3000. Would these be good choices along with M&K 500s or Def Tech Cinema Series? Any help as always would be appreciated!
Kieran ( 134.139.23.112 ) at 5:25 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Curtis
So, does this mean you'll be selling your TW65H80?
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.243 ) at 5:14 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Hmmmm....insert a go in there somewhere.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.243 ) at 5:13 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Sub and Speaker Enclosures ??
C'mon guys.....I'm bored and almost out of 2x4s. I need something to build before I have to back to work tomorrow.
JBC ( 207.164.221.171 ) at 4:51 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Tony C: Are you implying that it did not go away?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:46 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
serious sexual frustrations
Wild Bill: Yeah, my first thought too. Actually, what I thought was,
"Get married and those will go away"
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 4:26 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
Wild Bill: Yes, my RPTV has HD RGB inputs in addition to the high-bandwidth component input. However, I have my DTC-100 HD receiver connected to the HD input, so that leaves me with one component input that I have left to connect two component sources to - hence the switcher.
Yeah - VGA to 3 BNC/RCA would be the way to go, but not if they're more expensive than the VGA to 5 BNC. Leaving a couple wires dangling is no biggie to me as they'll be out of sight anyway.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.90 ) at 4:12 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
RGB: Doesn't your set have RGB inputs that are independent of the component inputs? I guess not since you asked the question. Just set the iScan to sync on green and use a VGA to 4 BNC cable (there's no need for a 5 BNC cable if you only need three). Try www.Markerteck.com. They may even have VGA to 3 BNC cables. In fact, I'll bet they do.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:11 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
serious sexual frustrations
"And that's all I got to say about that."
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:10 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
serious sexual frustrations
Kitten: I see through your little ploy. You're just trying to make Darian prove himself, huh?
Although Darian...jeez, man...
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 3:41 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
Wild Bill: I don't need to *convert* the VGA signal to component, just pass the video through a switcher in order to connect both an iScan unit and my DVD player to my set's component input.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.90 ) at 3:36 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
serious sexual frustrations
Ron H : From a female? Hmmm...obviously still young and single. LOL!
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.90 ) at 3:33 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
RGB: Check out AVScience. I think Audio Authority makes a box that converts VGA to component. It retails for around $90 if my memory is correct. It's less than a hundred bucks.
Ron H ( 207.94.182.233 ) at 3:11 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Joe: Well since you mentioned it!!! I do not think a one should use the term serious sexual frustrations and soft in the same sentence. LOL
Ron H ( 207.94.182.233 ) at 3:07 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Remote & Upgrade
Derb:
Joe ( 152.163.197.52 ) at 3:07 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
"and waking up with some serious sexual frustrations,"
I am surprised everyone let Darian slid on this.
Joe ( 152.163.197.52 ) at 3:04 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Aftenoon all,
JJ thanks for the size. I was trying to stay around 14" for depth.
Curtis: 20" in the bathroom. You are from San Franciso right, So I meant TV
Laundry room is now wired. I placed a CAT-5 / RG-6 Gang box 79" over were the washer will sit. This is will allow for a small 13" or so TV to be placed on the shelf. It will also allow for a phone connection.
I am moving on to the kitchen next. I had to take a lunch break. I thought today as I stuck myself on the same nail several times. I would run a CAT-5 / RG6 run outside to the front deck and the future back deck.
I also ran some extras today. Speaker wire to the front bathroom and bedroom. I ran a extra setof CAT-5 into the small bath. I will leave it hanging behind the wall. If I need it someday, it's already there.
Ron H ( 207.94.182.233 ) at 2:58 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Remote & Upgrade
Derb:
Ron H ( 207.94.182.233 ) at 2:57 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Remote & Upgrade
Derb: Not even a kiss>>;-)
Curtis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 2:52 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
RGB: That sounds like a plan. Try watching with the various connections to see what you like best. One would think the less proccessing happening the better, but who knows?
JBC ( 207.164.221.136 ) at 2:32 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Ron : As you are a batchelor for a week... enjoy the game tonight!!
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 2:20 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
Curtis: Yes, I'm planning on running S-video to the iScan from the DVD player for watching non-anamorphic and 4:3 DVDs. For anamorphic DVDs, I'll be using the DVD player's progressive scan mode. I believe this will give me a better DVD picture than S-video through the iScan, as there's no analog-digital-analog conversion going on, and the SD-5109 already incorporates 3:2 pulldown.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 1:57 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
RGB: I don't think the V2 iScan has a bypass mode with the exception of the aspect ratio front panel switch. An iScan should process any signal it's fed. Take a look at the PDF user manual available from DVDO's site http://www.dvdo.com/system/iscan.html
I understand your goal. You must feed the iScan with S and/or composite video. The RGB port on it is strictly for output. Are you running an S cable from the DVD to the iScan?
Derb ( 208.134.148.176 ) at 1:38 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Remote & Upgrade
Darian: The cheezy remote in question, would that be the one pictured on the web site. They are calling it the SRC-2000. I kind of got pissed with EAD. No mention of previous problems with remotes, and no mention of the new remote be worthless. With a product of this caliber, I expected to have the problem solved. Sorry that you having difficulties; we will take care of it right away. They seam more concerned with me buying the new upgrade package & 6.4 software for $500 bucks and ohh yeah you get a piece of crap remote with that upgrade too. They could at least include some KY
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 1:36 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
Nevermind the iScan passthrough question below, I won't need the iScan to have it for the setup below.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 1:12 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
Curtis: Thanks Curtis - I wasn't quite sure if that would work, but since you're already using it in that scenario I guess I'm all set. So I'll need 3 cables actually:
* component to VGA - connect DVD player to VGA switchbox.
* VGA to VGA - connect iScan to VGA switchbox.
* VGA to component - connect VGA switchbox to component input on RPTV.
Now that I've wrote this down, I'm wondering if the iScan has a passthrough mode? I'm connecting the progressive scan outputs of the DVD player into the iScan, and I'll prefer to watch the progressive scan output of the DVD player for anamorphic DVDs. With this in mind, will I be able to do this with the above connections?
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 1:08 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Curtis: I have about 5 months of reading to do to catch up.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 1:05 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Carlos: Hey man, what's shakin'? Good to see you here.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 1:02 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Hi Curtis!
Curtis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 1:01 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
RGB: I use a standard VGA to 5 x BNC computer monitor cable from the iScan to component input on my display. I don't use the white & black sync BNC leads. Be certain you select the component switch setting on the iScan. It should go without saying that you want a good quality cable.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.225 ) at 12:47 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Curtis: Yeah...but is it free.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.225 ) at 12:46 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Sub Placement
Okay guys, how about another HT building question?
I've got the walls framed up (those 45 degree angels for the soffits were a bitch, and am getting ready to do the front wall. I've framed the front for any future FP system...openings for speakers, connections, etc., and am about to frame another wall in front of it. This wall will contain the RPTV, speakers, and subwoofer. Now on to the question.
What would be the best way to enclose the sub? I'm thinking of building an insulated box to set the sub into with speaker grill material in front. The whole box would slide into the new wall making the sub flush with the whole front wall.
Anything wrong with this approach? As always..thanks for all the help so far!
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 12:42 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
VGA to Component Cable?
So I'm looking at getting the new iScan with the 16:9 switch as an early x-mas present. I've already picked up a VGA video switcher, and now I need to know if "VGA to component" and "component to VGA" cables are readily available? I know they make VGA to 5 BNC breakout cables, but don't know if the wiring would be the same for component sources. Anyone have any first hand experience, or know about these cables?
Curtis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 12:39 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
... did I mention free? Sheesh.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.225 ) at 12:38 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Kitten: Wow! Have you ever thought of writing\reviewing for any of the HT mags?
Curtis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 12:36 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Kitten: Thanks for your impressions. When it comes to showing off HT's I'm not sure that it's possible for guys to simply sit down and actually watch something all the way through because there's just too much good stuff to check out in a short amount of time. Then again my former GF used to line up at least a dozen different scenes from various disks to show off when we had company as a prelude to actually watching an entire movie.
Tell that Darian guy to get the OTA HD tuner card for the 6000 when it becomes available. You should be able to pick up quite a bit of free HD programming in your area - for free even!
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 12:26 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Hi guys, I haven't been around for a while. Things are finally starting to slow down to a normal pace for me so I’m getting back into HT. How is everyone doing? Gar or Cajun, are you two around? If you are email me at rcarlosnyc@aol.com
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:16 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Derb...
Check Procedure on
http://www.erols.com/cnichol/eadtips2.html
They were giving people whos Rotel remote had failed a new one. The remote was this cheezy tactile button unit. They had an even high failer rate. Plus they have no place in the same room with the asthetics of the TheaterMaster. It is a All For ONe producer that EAD silkscreened on its logos.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:14 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Curtis: I have to move the cables off the iScan and to the HD ouputs to watch HDTV. We don't do that all too often as we are not home when alot of actual HDTV is on. Also we lack an offair tuner card. So we have 3 HD channels... HBO (usually upconverted), Showtime (some tiems true HD), and rthe demo channel (how many times can we watch that 5 min loop.) Sometimes the stuff on HBO or Showtime looks great . most of the time it is just upconverted old movies. Might aswell just watch them via the iScan. If they actually have a 5.1 track we may go through the trouble.
Lets just say it ain't often.
Kitten ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:09 PM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Thanks for inviting me! It's nice to see that some HT aficionados are normal, even though mine is far from it. Have any of you ever watched a movie the whole way through? I'm glad you all liked the salsa. My fingers are still dyed yellow from cutting up the banana peppers! I am surprised that you want to hear my impressions. Yes, I was awake long enough to have some.
First of all, I thought the whole HTPC thing was very cool. Darian's been obsessing about building one for the last week! Being able to switch between aspect ratios with a simple point and click is very convenient! Over here, we have to use the "Kitten button" on the Pronto to do so, and all that button can do is switch between 4:3 and 16:9! During the demo, we ran into a few bugs...trying to make the taskbar go away and getting rid of that black line, but otherwise, I think it's a really great idea, and I'm glad it wasn't Darian who had to bui.
On to the comparison...yes, the scan lines were less obvious on the HTPC, but they were only noticeable (to me, at least) in the credits. Personally, I don't find scan lines that objectionable. In general, when I'm far enough back, I don't notice them at all. At 11:30, after my volleyball tournament, driving all over Virginia and getting lost in DC, and let's not forget being subjected to comparing an iScan to a DV-37 right before I left, add in about half an hour of sleep with contacts in and waking up with some serious sexual frustrations, the picture seemed a little soft with the HTPC.
The two pieces have very different outputs; color saturation, white levels, etc. are not standardized between the two units, so the apples aren't exactly the same color.
I'm sure I remember some sort of 480 blah blah ba\lah 540 blah blah blah, but, after a while, I just had to tune these guys out, especially when their comparisons came down to how good the red Texaco star looked. I certainly enjoy Super Speedway, but, come on, it's meant to be played at levels where I shouldn't be able to hear anything but the soundtrack. I wa happy to chime in with my opinions on motion artifacts and morie`, I was grumbling (and that ain't no purr), "Can we just watch something? PLEASE?????"
DV-37 versus iScan: No contest. The DV-37 has all sorts of weird artifacts. Things in the very center of the screen that don't move look great, but everything else looks pretty bad. A good test for that is John Cusack's sweater in High Fidelity. The whole thing was wiggling with the DV-37. Transitions from light to dark are also a problem for the DV-37. Toss in a little motion and it really goes to shit. At one point, we could actually see the guitar strings through Sheryl Crow's hand. DVDO: 1, Genesis: 0
HTPC versus iScan: HTPC was much better than the DV-37. The pictures were much more solid and there were hardly any artifacts. There were no bizarre edge enhancements between front objects and background objects. When compared to the iScan, my eyes preferred the iScan. The HTPC seems really cool. Do you know how many times Darian has changed DVD players in the time I've known him? With the HTPC, he could upgrade his DVD player whenever technology advanced. Problem playing a disc? Download new firmware! Nothing is ever obsolete. Forget about all the trade in nightmares we suffer. DD-EX DTS-ES No need to get whole new DVD player...all we need now is an HTPC pre-amp.
For this sytem... we are sticking with the iScan for now. You know how long he keeps gear...
Curtis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 11:56 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Line Doublers
Darian: Here's how I have my iScan connected. S video 1 comes from the out of the 9000ES prepro and the composite in gets a direct feed from the LD player. The pre/pro switches between DSS (DTC-100 for SD), DVD, and VCR - all S connections. Watching cable via the VCR/iScan is a much better picture than using the internal displays doubler.
When viewing HD source material I use the direct RGB out of the DTC to the HD in (via Transcoder to convert the output to component) of my display.
Derb ( 208.134.148.32 ) at 11:25 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Remotes
Darian: I think it is the Rotel clone.
Gar ( 169.207.106.56 ) at 11:15 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
JBC: I use Audiogon to post things for sale. But they just went to charging people. So I will stick with just ordering from someone who uses it. Also Audioreview is a good place to look' depending on what your looking for.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:55 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Line Doublers
CAI: The Dish 6000 does not come with a line doubler. What it does is upconvert the standard signal to 1080i. Which pretty much looks like shit on my TV. The iScan improves on the image of the standard output...
SCREECH>>>>> explination needed <<<<<<<<<
The DiSH 6000 has 2 operational modes. SD and HD. When in SD mode the S-Video and Composite video outs are active. In HD mode the Component and RGB out are active. This is an either or situation.
When you watch normal channels in HD mode the picture is not only upconverted by the DiSH but scalled too. There are multiple settings like Grey Bars, Stretched and Zoom. They ALL DETERIORATE THE PICTURE. Colors loose the saturation and people get that nice 400lb dwarf look. Kitten starts to complain about the lousy picture right away, if I leave Farscape in the HD mode. We both whole heartedly agree that FARSCAPE SHOULD BE IN HD!!!
For normal viewing the component outputs are off. That is not a good design idea. It would have been real easy for the DiSH guys to have the component outs display either 480i or 480p in SD mode. After all isn't 480P SD according to the ASTC???
Kitten says I am wandering...
We use the iScan as follows.
Input 1 of the iScan is hooked to the DiSH 6000 via the s-video cable. The DVD player is hooked up via S-video to input 2 and the priority switch on the iScan is set to 2. The VCR is hooked to the 3rd and only composite input. Since the DiSH is almost always on the iScan leaves that selected. To switch to DVD we turn on the DVD player. The iScan selects it. Then we need only switch the audio input of the EAD.
The Picture sent from the iScan to the TV is far better than the picture of the upconverted DiSH or the DRC of the TV. After we hooked up the iScan we knew this was one piece that was here to stay.
Lots of stuff doesn't...
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:37 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Remotes
Derb: Wich remote do you have? If you have the Rotel clone then I can give you the procedures. If you have the 2nd remote... BIG BLUE BUTTONS... there is a reset covered in the back of the manual. If you have the current remote then I HAVE NO CLUE!!! Get a Pronto! Pronto...
Ron H ( 207.223.53.57 ) at 10:20 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Hey all. I am still recovering from having a gang over for a day of football. Nicky left on saturday to visit one of her children and does not return till next Sunday. Single again.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:48 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
good morning all!
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 8:26 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
TV Measurments
Joe: my 25" is 25w X 22h X 20d
JBC ( 207.164.221.228 ) at 7:48 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Three quick things...
1. There is a Tosh SD-5109 for sale on Audiogon for $360. Auction closes in 14 hours.
2. This might be dumb but... anybody come up with an efficient manner of finding new listings on e-bay without scrolling through multiple categories? Or, do most just stick to Audiogon because it is more speacilaized?
3. Are there other Audiogon sites that people search through every now and then?
JBC ( 207.164.221.228 ) at 7:18 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Good morning gang...
To my Canadian friends -- Happy Thanksgiving
Jeff S. ( 198.133.22.68 ) at 6:53 AM EST Monday, October 9, 2000
Half Way To Wonderful
Derb: Sorry I was late replying to this and I see that you already ordered a new one. But, for anyone else that may run into this problem with buttons not working on your remote, you can save some cash by doing this. Go to MCM electronics web site and order product number 20-3190. This is a conductive pen used for reparing circuit board traces. This particular model works on flexible material, like the rubber keys on a remote. It costs $18 and change. You just take the remote apart and with the pen, write on the back of the pad that is no longer working. Let dry for an hour, reassemble and your good to go. You can then use the pen to fix other remotes as this is an ongoing problem with all remotes. Fix your friends, families remotes or whatever. There is even a guy that has a website where he has made a business out of this. You send your remote to him, he applies the process I just described and sends the remote back to you. He charges you $20. He also sells used remotes. You send him your unwanted non-working remote, he sends you a couple of bucks. He then fixes the remote and turns around and sells it to someone else for anywhere between $25 to $45 bucks depending on availablility of certain remote models.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.103 ) at 11:07 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
TV Measurments
AVB: Well when he mentioned his "20 incher in the bathroom" you had to wonder if he was thinking about the depth of something else!
AVB ( 64.41.32.114 ) at 8:23 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
TV Measurments
Joe: You have to look at the depth too Joe.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.176 ) at 7:44 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Of Mice and Men?
cai: The mice are connected to differnt computers. I'll contact the Gyromouse people to get a new battery. Thanks for the heads up.
Joe ( 205.188.192.157 ) at 7:24 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
TV Measurments
Evening men.
Any of you all with 25" or so TVs care to measure them. I am looking to get a general clue on OD sizes of these size sets. I have a rough opening of 28.5" x 22" in the bathroom. I know my 20 incher will fit, but the mind is wondering.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 6:41 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Of Mice and Men?
Wild Bill:Do you have both the Logitech cordless mouse and the Gyromouse connected and controlling the same computer? I thought I saw you move the cursor with both last night.
About your problems with the Gyromouse, they have a new and improved battery that they will send to you free of charge. I think that it did improve the movement of mine. Of course, as you know, since then I had to send mine for repairs. I will let you know how the repair fairs with me, so that you may send yours.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 6:33 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
No. Va. Meet
Wild Bill: Sorry about the name error. I thought Kitten held-up fairly well. The poor thing was sure glad to see midnight roll around. I have a feeling that she was taking very long blinks during our dissertations and commentaries.
Darian: I thought your salsa was great. If it is not a trade secret, and even if it is, I would like to have the recipe. I do not care much for salsas, but this one fullfils my needs for veggies quite well.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 6:06 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
No. Va. Meet
Wild Bill: I just want to publicly darn you to heck, Bill. I was happy with my simple 32" TV. But can I live with it now? NO!!! And it's all your fault!
Actually, I've been threatening to upgrade my display for a LONG time. Car audio done, computer upgrade done, I guess it's time for another of my expensive hobbies to get time in the spotlight. Hmmm, anybody want to make suggestions for HDTV ready 50" RPTV? I feel the need...the need for HT! (Darian that was for you and your Top Gun reference last night!)
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.19 ) at 5:24 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
No. Va. Meet
cai: Thanks for coming. BTW, Kitten's name is Ellen.
Gar ( 169.207.192.217 ) at 4:36 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Sony S-7700
Tony C: I think just the upgrade was over $800 bucks, close to a grand.
Not sure, they just sent me that number, and didn't really explain it clearly.($1695.00). My question is does the new Sony upgrade, allow you to run everything through the unit, almost using it as a HDTV tuner scaler etc....
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:43 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Sony S-7700
Gar: Did I miss it?
How much was just the upgrade if I sent in my 7700?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:37 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
No. Va. Meet
cai, Wild Bill, Darian:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bla, bla, bla.
I want to know what Kitten thought!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.198 ) at 2:57 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Sony S-7700
MSB is finally doing there upgrade, and also selling the upgrade along with the 7700, at $1695. Seems kind of steep, but follow the link. It seems that this THING will do everything. Go figure, I just sold my Sony unit and was getting tired of waiting around for there upgrade. I was on there waiting list. Here is the link........ http://www.msbtech.com/1200p.html
sorry for the repost, but my typing sucks, need a Preview button then a post button, so I can correct my mistakes. hahahahaha
Gar ( 169.207.194.198 ) at 2:56 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Sony S-7700
MSB is finally doing there upgrade, and also selling the upgrade along with the 7700, at $1695. Seems kind of steep, but follow the link. It seems that this think will do everything. Go figure, I just sold my Sony unit and was getting tired of waiting around for there upgrade. I was on there waiting list. Here is the link........ http://www.msbtech.com/1200p.html
Gar ( 169.207.194.198 ) at 2:49 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Pioneer DV 37(revised)
Wild Bill: The Image quality beats the pants off my old Sony S-7700. Had a wierd problem with the unit though. Put a 96khz/24 disc in the unit and the next morning I couldn't get anything to read, put a DVD in the unit and the only thing that came up on the unit was Menu on the display. I think I had something in the menu on DVD player set wrong, also on the back of unit it allows you to set the player up at different aspect ratios. It was on 480i, so I switched it to 480p. And everything seems to work ok. The unit has a ton of internal adjustments for tweaking your system even further. The adjustments for black level are awesome, especially when using a LCD projector. It made the black levels on the Sony look allot better.
Gar ( 169.207.194.198 ) at 2:47 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Pioneer DV 37
Wild Bill: The Image quality beats the pants of my old S-7700. Had a wierd problem with the unit though. Put a 96khz/24 disc in the unit and the next morning I couldn't get anything to read, put a DVD in the unit and the only thing that came up on the unit was Menu on the display. I think I had something in the menu on DVD player set wrong, or on the back of unit it allows you to set the player up at different aspect ratios. It was on 480i, so I switched it to 480p. And everything seems to work ok. The unit has a ton of internal adjustments for tweaking your system even further. The adjustments for black level are awesome, especially when using a LCD projector. It made the black levels on the Sony look allot better.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 2:01 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
oops...never mind...
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 2:00 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Wild Bill:
Ron H ( 63.26.174.12 ) at 12:59 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
JBC: 3. Trunks are packed -- I will bring the Canadian suds.
Sounds good to me.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.107 ) at 12:43 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Wild Bill: Sounds like you all had a great time NOT watching Kitten last night.
Good to hear that the iScan got respectable grades. It has worked wonderfully on my TW65H80 from day one - a giant leap over the cheesy internal doubler Toshiba puts in their RP's. Yet I can imagine one can do better with a high resolution FP. I suspect my killer deal on the Sony D50Q will mean I won't be happy til I get a HTPC and who knows what else.
Looks like the cows have come home (see my bio)
Curtis ( 206.170.6.107 ) at 12:37 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Tony C: Snow? You mean that cold white stuff? It seems far too early for that stuff.
Anyone catch the Giants vs. Mets game yesterday? I watched it into the 9th but had to attend my duaghters marching band competition. An hour and a half later I tune the car radio to hear the outcome only to find it's still tied in the 13th inning! It's just as well that I didn't see the ending since my boys had their hearts broken on one swing-o-the bat.
JBC ( 207.164.221.241 ) at 12:05 PM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Ron H: A few quick things:
1. You have e-mail.
2. You are a good way towards HT heaven. Just finished riding the bike at the gym and noticed that the MC-1 and the 10HT got extremely positigve reviews.
3. Trunks are packed -- I will bring the Canadian suds.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 11:55 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
No. Va. Meet
Once again Wild Bill became the most gracious host for a shootout between the i-scan and his HTPC. Needless to say, we were all on our best behaviour since lovely Helen, AKA kitten, Darian's girlfriend, was present.
The i-scan proved to be quite capable of putting out a great picture. The HTPC has more controllable variables and options and by virtue of this is able to surpass the picture quality of the i-scan. I did become a little confused with the number of programs and their use when aspect ratios and resolutions were being changed. But, this will be the subject of another posting.
The question I have is this: aren't most new HDTVs and OTA HD receivers equipped with line doublers? Isn't the Dish 600 also equipped with a line doubler? If this is the case why would one need the i-scan if one owns one of the above mentioned pieces of equipment?
SonicBit: Good move.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 10:42 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Wild Bill: Just for you and Darian, I'm converting to my original nick. Besides it was Iphwin...with an "I"!
Wild Bill ( 63.38.153.162 ) at 10:33 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Pioneer DV 37
Gar: What are your impressions of the player? Ease of use? Image quality? Any problems? TIA.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.36 ) at 10:29 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
JBC: Back at you.
I will make sure the pool is heated up for your visit. Bring your trunks.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.153.162 ) at 10:14 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Good morning boys. Darian, JohnO, CAI, Lphwin and I had a HTOC gathering lsat night. We did a shootout between the iScan and the HTPC and I also put the HTPC through some of its paces for the gang. I have to say that I was impressed by the iScan. For the price it is a great bang for the buck. I'd recommend it heartily for the RPTV crowd. On a projector 480 lines just isn't enough. Lphwin was able to see scan lines from 12 feet away. The scan lines disappeared when viewed through the HTPC at 540p. We didn't do apples to apples on resolution because, as Darian said, the HTPC is there because you CAN scale to higher resolutions. I'm sure the others will post their impressions. 1.75 thumbs up to the iScan from me.
JBC ( 207.164.221.196 ) at 7:55 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Ron H: My car is covered, and I do mean covered, in frost...
JBC ( 207.164.221.196 ) at 7:54 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Ron H: You have e-mail. If you do not get it soon let me know and I will resend...
Ron H ( 63.26.171.25 ) at 7:53 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
me=my
on=one
too early.
It is only 50 outside this morning. Time to breakout the long johns.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.25 ) at 7:45 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
JBC: Did you get me e-mail? If not I may not have the correct on on my lap top. Send it to me.
JBC ( 207.164.221.196 ) at 7:25 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Good morning gang
Derb: Congrats on the new toys. Very cool....
Get Carter: I went to see this movie last night. SUffice it to say that it is a rental at best.
LouV ( 207.97.142.43 ) at 2:59 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
Tony C: thats cool.. I too have been pretty busy lately so my HTOC posting have been lacking, I don't think I've posted anything since the spring sometime! Jee-bus! I'm pretty sure once I feel the urge to get new HT gear I'll be hanging around more.. what can I say, I'm pretty content with what I have now.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 1:29 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
it's snowing.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 1:28 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
LouV: I talk to Fernando every once in a while via email.
He says that he hasn't had time for HT lately. He's lurked, but has had nothing to add.
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 12:19 AM EST Sunday, October 8, 2000
can anyone help me calibrate my TV, I cant see the full image on my screen.....
Tom: The question is what are you viewing? Cable/Dish/or DVD or LD.
If your using a DVD player you might want to check where the Aspect ratio is set at......
Derb ( 199.174.0.236 ) at 11:04 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Krell
GAR: Working on the Fabio hair. Maybe he will throw me some of his rejects. Chicks love big amps. :0)
Tom ( 172.137.84.249 ) at 10:58 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
can anyone help me calibrate my TV, I cant see the full image on my screen.....
can anyone help me calibrate my TV, I cant see the full image on my screen.....
LouV ( 207.97.142.42 ) at 10:54 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Hello everyone.. anyone see Fernando lately? Just wondering how hes doing.
GAR ( 208.176.45.103 ) at 10:43 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
MONDO
We carried these Amp stands, at Audiophiles. There are made in WI, not too far from where Iive, very well made.
GAR ( 208.176.45.103 ) at 10:32 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Typing on a LCD screen bites!
GAR ( 208.176.45.103 ) at 10:31 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
KRELL
Derb: Good amps. Used to have a 600 here for about a month, ut went with the Threshold T-800D.
GAR ( 208.176.45.103 ) at 10:27 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
DERB:your heating bill will be ok, but your electric bill will go up. No problem on that it will be cheaper than oil or gas. :)What Krells did you et? Is your system like Fabio's now.JK!
Derb ( 199.174.0.236 ) at 10:21 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Amp Stands
trav1: Hey, thanx for the info on the amp stands, I book marked them. Those look really cool. I like the solid wood look. I have the Krells set up on Target amp stands right now. I was thinking about getting a double decker stand for both the Krells and the Adcoms, but I'm concerned about the heat rising to the amps sitting on top. If I can get them far enough apart it shouldn't be a problem. Or I will set up another set of amp stands behind or to one side. Just seams like alot of stuff, cables, and such laying about. But I like it......Better homes and garden it is not
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 9:58 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Amp Stands
Derb: Did you have some amp stands in mind? You just building them. If not I like the ones at www.mondodesigns.com. In fact, they even use an adcom as an example. http://www.mailbag.com/users/nstreit/adcom2.jpg
Derb ( 199.174.0.236 ) at 9:50 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Krell
trav1: Just gave them a work out. It's about 60 degrees outside and my air conditioner just kicked on. Heating the house will be no problem, I'll have my Adcoms back on Wednesday. I'll put them to work on the rear channels, need to get another pair of amp stands. Bring on the heat, it's like summer all the time. That's what cold beer is for...
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 9:11 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Krell
Derb: Guess you can forget about the heating bill this winter with those things.
Derb ( 199.174.0.236 ) at 8:53 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Save The Postage
JBC: That's OK I'm thru with the mag. Save the postage. I was glad to help.
Derb ( 199.174.0.236 ) at 8:50 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Half Way To Wonderful
Ron H: Ordered a new remote for the tv from mr. remote. $34.00 bucks
The pronto will have to wait. Now I need to have my EAD remote fixed or replaced some how. I'll give EAD a call on Monday
Derb ( 199.174.0.236 ) at 8:34 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
KRELL
And they said go forth and amplify. A pair of Krell 250m's Mono Block Amps sit in my living room. So far so good, nothing has blown up, very quiet, no distortion, great loads of bass, the impact is back, maybe a little bright, but I think thats my CD player, everything melos out when I fire it thru my DAT player. Get a frying pan and you can cook on these babies. I likes...
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:37 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
hi
Scott "popcorn": Why does that reaction not surprise me, Pop?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.167 ) at 7:35 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
hi
meow.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 6:51 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
hi
Kitten: You know...I have absolutely no idea how to respond to that except...see ya later!
Kitten ( 207.172.11.147 ) at 6:47 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
hi
Hello. I am the one known as Kitten. Yes, I am Darian's girlfriend, not his imaginary friend. He was just now subjecting me to examining the differences between the iScan and the DV-37, which even I can see. Bill, that projector better impress me or you'll never hear the end of it.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 6:36 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
What you can bring tonight...in addition to salsa
Wild Bill: Just leave the key to the back door under the flower pot. We'll make ourselves at home.
Hmmm, now the question is...will he see this post before we get there? Hmmmmmm
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 6:27 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Wild Bill: Please him be talking about his girlfriend!
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.83 ) at 5:54 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Darian: Kitten?
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.83 ) at 5:54 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Darian: No DVD player (unless it has 4 BNC output).
Darian ( 207.172.11.147 ) at 5:43 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
So I need to bring the Salsa, iScan, and Kitten. Do you want the DVD player too??? Answer soon as I just finished making the salsa.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.83 ) at 5:32 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
What you can bring tonight...in addition to salsa
Iphwin, Darian, CAI and JohnO: I'm having dinner with my family after swimming and it may be close to 8:30 by the time I get here. If you're early just hang out and I will be home shortly.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:26 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
What you can bring tonight...in addition to salsa
Wild Bill: Roger that. Chips added to list.
Wild Bill ( 63.36.12.63 ) at 4:19 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
What you can bring tonight...in addition to salsa
Iphwin: We can always use a bag of tortilla chips. Whatever you prefer. I have plenty of Coke. Giant has had 2 liter bottles on sale this week for .59. What a bargain.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 3:30 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
DMA
Wild Bill: Thanks guys for all the tips. I finally found a place in the systems area where I could check this setting. It is active. I have been running DVDs through this computer and have not noticed anything wrong. I will compare tonigt.
JBC ( 207.164.221.249 ) at 3:21 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Good morning gang...
Ron H: No I have not yet called Bob. I will do so this week as I want my new amp. He is very slow at getting back to me. What has been your experience with him lately?
Ron H:, Derb: Went out with the wife. Found the October issue of HT -- yours will be sent back. Looks like some goooooood reading with two nice DLP's, an MC-1, Aerial Accoustics, etc.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:14 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
What you can bring tonight...in addition to salsa
Wild Bill: I'll be bringing some Mountain Dew for Darian and I. Anyone else have a fave? Also, do we need chips for the salsa? I'm making a grocery run anyway, so I can pick up anything you might want.
BUT TIME'S AWASTIN'!!!
Gar ( 169.207.192.143 ) at 2:48 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Trivia
MikeD: Damn, I new it was the long jump! But couldn't remember who. Bob Kostas did a segment on this during the Sydney games.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.41 ) at 2:26 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
I can't believe how much brighter this NEC projector is than my old Barco. I'm watching football with a TON of ambient light in the room and the image is quite watchable. Of course, colors are a bit washed out, but all-in-all, it's a pretty good image.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.41 ) at 2:24 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
What you can bring tonight...in addition to salsa
Darian: You can bring your iScan. We'll set up a signal and compare the iScan to the HTPC. JohnO has a VGA to BNC breakout cable that he's bringing. Bring any other cabling we may need to do the hookup. See ya tonight.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.41 ) at 2:22 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
DMA
cai: For disk drives enter Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager and click on disk drives. Under settings you can enable DMA. I do this for all hard drives, CR-Rom drives and DVD ROM drives. DMA is a must for smooth playback of software DVD.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.41 ) at 2:18 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
cai: I've read all the SGHT articles about HTPC but feel free to bring them anyway. It must be my advanced age that is getting to me. Now I remember that you replied. See you tonight.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.219 ) at 1:37 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Half Way To Wonderful
Derb: It may be time to consider a Pronto.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 1:23 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
my digital audio problem
I'm going to try to get my hands on another digital source first. My soon-to-be brother-in-law is into mini-disc, I think he has a portable player, probably (hopefully) with a digital output.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.63 ) at 12:54 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
my digital audio problem
JJ: It's worth a try at least. If Toslink works then you obviously have a problem with the other ins.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 12:34 PM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
my digital audio problem
anybody think it would be worthwhile to pick up a toslink cable to try out my system problem. I am assuming the problem is with my decoder picking up the signal. If the problem did occur on the power outage, what are the chances the optical inputs where not effected?
or should i just bring the decoder to the shop?
AVB ( 64.41.32.135 ) at 11:34 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
DMA
cai: With the majority of newer boards, DMA is automaticly enabled. You might want to look at your bios settings to see if they do have a user configurable setting.
AVB ( 64.41.32.135 ) at 11:32 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Trivia Winner!
MikeD: Click on my name and send me your address, I'll have the screener out to you next week. Bob's jump was the largest percentage change of a track and field record ever in any sport and that still stands to this day.
MikeD ( 24.112.158.233 ) at 11:09 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Trivia
AVB:
My guess is:
Long Jump, Bob Beamon, USA, 8.90 m 1968, Mexico City
Although his world record is broken, this still stands as the Olympic record.
Derb ( 199.174.7.102 ) at 11:00 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Half Way To Wonderful
This is a remote conspiracy. Now my Toshiba TV remote does not work. The power, change channel & volume controls don't work, but the number pad does. New batteries did nothing.
Anyone know where I can purchase just a remote for a Toshiba Model# CF3272B
Derb ( 199.174.7.102 ) at 10:53 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Remotes
Darian: Have you had any problems with your EAD remote? The screen on mine has decided to act up. When lit it you can see several other buttons trying to bleed through the screen, the entire panel has words & numbers all over the place. The delete, error, ok & learn buttons look to be always on at the top. When you look at it from different angles the screen completely washes out or makes the under lying buttons become mutch clearer. I don't have a spare learning remote. Do you think EAD will send me a new remote first and then allow me to send this one back?
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 10:15 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
DMA
I have a k7m ASUS board and an Athlon 750 chip. How can I check to see if DMA is enabled in my system? Do I have to custom reinstall anything? Thanks.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 10:03 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Wild Bill: Actually I did answer in the affirmative a few days ago, but to re-state, yes I will be present. I am dying to see the new version of Star Trek Insurrection. The last 3 dozen times I watched the old version did not quite sink into me. HA, HA, HA, HA.
If you want I can bring copies of SGHT, where detailed explanations about HTPC are given. Also, if I find a DVD that I think would be good for the gang to watch and test specs, I will bring it.
Gar ( 169.207.194.38 ) at 9:55 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Giving you a call Ron!!!!!
Ron H ( 63.26.171.244 ) at 9:44 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Gar: Can I borrow it for a month or so??? You know to do a comparison to the Tosh!! LOL Congrats on your new player.
Gar ( 169.207.194.38 ) at 9:43 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Sony Pre/Pro Owners
If anyone comes across the new upgrade let us know. It is supposed to be out by the End of this month version 1.22c. It could be out on a CD-Rom, not sure yet.
Gar ( 169.207.194.38 ) at 9:41 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Darian: I must say this Pioneer produces a pretty darn splendid picture. I have only watched it a few times but it is awesome.. And you are correct the access time on here is amazing. And it is the first time my Sony Pre/Pro has read 96khz, most DVD players can't pass this signal.
AVB ( 64.41.32.157 ) at 7:46 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Krell Master Reference Sub
trav1: Just think, for $27,400 less you can get a VMPS sub that will also do 120db @ 20hz. They must use really special aluminium in that Krell.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.221 ) at 5:57 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Bo=Bob
Ron H ( 63.26.163.221 ) at 5:56 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
JBC: Have you talked with or e-mailed Bo lately?
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.41 ) at 5:24 AM EST Saturday, October 7, 2000
Darian, JohnO, CAI and de Lurker : Darian and Alan have replied that they'll be here tonight. JohnO and CAI, are you guys coming? I presume you are but haven't received a solid yes. Post here or call me. 8:30 PM tonight.
Darian and Alan: I have set up 640 X 480, 960 X 540 and 1280 X 720 for TV viewing. 960 X 540 & 1280 X 720 are reduced horizontally for proper aspect ratio (OK, they're strtched a bit but not much). For DVD playback I've set up 720 X 480, 856 X 480, 960 X 540, and 1280 X 720. If I have time I'll set up a couple of others but these should be enough. Of course, all are progressive scan. 856 X 480 and 720 X 480 will give you the best apples to apples comparison to your Pioneer. Everything else is upconverted to higher resolutions. Bring over any DVDs that you'd like to demo. I suggest you watch the opening scenes of Star Trek:Insurrection on your system. Look closely at the hay in the opening, the bridge and water ripples right after the hay scene and the rooftops and vegetable gardens in the opening scenes. You should also look at the vertical panning in the quarry scene in Dragonheart. This scene is jaggies galore on almost every system. See you tonight. JohnO and CAI have seen these scenes before but they have not seen them through a GeForce video card or with the latest version of WinDVD2000. Be prepared for Faroudja-like scaling quality on film sourced DVD.
JBC ( 207.164.221.98 ) at 11:35 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Curtis: I am green with envy....
Curtis ( 206.170.6.76 ) at 11:21 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
specs are here http://bpgprod.sel.sony.com/modelfeatures.bpg?cat=Projectors&subcat=Installation&model=VPHD50HTU
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 11:21 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Krell Master Reference Sub
Wonder how many of these will sell. Maybe they will take a car in trade.
Krell introduced their $28,000 Master Reference Subwoofer. This monster is one to catch your attention. The Krell woofer is built like a tank and weighs like one at over 450 lbs. It’s all- aluminum construction boasts two-inch side baffles and one-inch plate for the remainder of the enclosure, which Krell claims is completely inert to the touch. This sub has two 15-inch drivers and is powered by a 2600-watt amplifier. The reference sub will deliver down to 20 Hz at an awe-inspiring 120 dB.
Gar ( 169.207.192.23 ) at 11:06 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony D50Q FP in my future?
Curtis: Curtis sounds like a great buy, thats what I was going to get my I don't have the ceiling room, or room at the moment. But I am a very happy camper with the 10HT.
Gar ( 169.207.192.23 ) at 11:02 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
MSB upgrades
Just got an E-mail from MSB for a S-7700 unit with progressive scan! Yikes!
They want $1695.00 but the unit will do, 480p,525p,600p,768p,960p,1080p and 1200p. Geez sounds like all the bases are covered on this unit.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.76 ) at 10:29 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony D50Q FP in my future?
Wild Bill: In my best Ronnie Raygun voice "Now there you go again acting all wild, Bill!" Anyone seen my pal Duane lately? He & I oogled this thing together when they 1st came out. I know he would dial it into nirvana clarity, grayscale, etc.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.76 ) at 10:25 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony D50Q FP in my future?
Ron H: The price is less than $3K and includes an iScan that I'll sell 'cause I already have one. Still under factory warranty for another year too.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.245.224 ) at 9:17 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony D50Q FP in my future?
Curtis: Buy ...it...now!!! You'll have to make some adjustments due to the move but they'll be minor. Besdies, there are all kinds of ISF types out your way.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 8:16 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
NON HT related
Can anyone shed some light for me the difference between a PentiumIII coppermine vs. a non-coppermine. My motherboard will only support a non coppermine. I'm not sure the what the difference is when I go in to pick up a new one.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.45 ) at 7:47 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony D50Q FP in my future?
Curtis:That is a dream machine. How good is the deal??
Curtis ( 206.170.6.207 ) at 7:34 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony D50Q FP in my future?
Oh man, oh man ... how long have I lusted for one of these? I found a great deal on a used Sony VPH-D50Q a few miles up the road complete with all new tubes (200 hours on them), service manual, remote and a new ceiling suspension mount. 5 memories are programmed exactly the way I want them for a 100" 16:9 screen, even HDTV.
Somebody pinch me & wish me luck that it's nearly as sweet as the seller makes it sound.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.29 ) at 6:17 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
JBC: No hotel needed we will be glad to have you stay with us. You may have to put up with a fat cat but if you have no allergys .....
AVB ( 64.41.32.5 ) at 6:13 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
TRIVIA
In honor of the Olympics, what is the oldest Olympic track and field record still standing of a currently run event? I need the person, the year, and the place. Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
Ron H ( 63.26.174.29 ) at 6:13 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Ron
Joe: http://www.thebigpicturedvd.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID2&conf=conference
Gar ( 169.207.193.223 ) at 6:06 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Joe
Joe: hehehehe, Actually I got an appology. He said he over reacted.
Still why be on a forum if you can share where to find great deals.
Cytotech ( 38.37.100.137 ) at 6:01 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Happy Birthday!
Have a cool one, Tony C!
Joe ( 152.163.204.191 ) at 5:54 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Ron
What is this website Sony forum?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:50 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
:)
you guys have a good weekend, heading home. talk to yall on monday.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:49 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
CES
Cai, already did it. thanks for reminding me though.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 5:39 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
CES
BC: Make sure you register for CES on the internet. Otherwise you will have to pay $75 to register at the door.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 5:28 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Have a great weekend...
Kieran ( 134.139.23.61 ) at 5:25 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Ron H : Back at ya. Also, sorry about the speaker man! What a nightmare.
Gar I'll send the tape when I get it back, probably around Wednesday. Sorry for the wait. The girl is gone all weekend, and I don't know if she's watched it yet. I'll push her when she returns Sunday night.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.61 ) at 5:13 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Happy Birthday, Tony C!!
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 4:06 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Ron H: The trip is booked. I will be in Irving the nights of the 7th and 8th. The session ends at 3:00 PM on the 9th so I will try to make it to Huston late afternoon/early evening on the 9th (even if I have to leave early).
I will advise you of my travel details as they materialize. Any suggestions as a to hotels near your place?
Ron H ( 63.23.243.241 ) at 3:51 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
sire=site
Ron H ( 63.23.243.241 ) at 3:50 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Gar: I just saw a posting at that sire from MVS looking for people who placed their orders before June 1st. I just can't believe that somone is waiting over 4 months. They need their head checked.
Joe ( 152.163.204.194 ) at 3:48 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Gar
Wheres this forum at? I will go over and see if I can stir shit up.
Joe ( 152.163.204.194 ) at 3:44 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Tony
Happy Birthday
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:26 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
B-Day
Thanks for the well wishes guys.
I'll be heading home soon. Putting some salmon steaks on the grill and just chllin. I have to work tomorrow and Sunday.
Ron H: So sorry man. What a drag.
Big AL: I'm not traveling next week. If you want to swing by Wheaton, give me a shout.
Ron H ( 63.25.63.101 ) at 1:03 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Gar: I hear ya. Some of those guys have been waiting 3 to 4 months. They are pissed at Sony for not shipping more 10HTs to MVS. The first letter of their name stands for Medical. Conventional retailers such as you and I use are allocated larger shipments based upon their sales of sony products in the past.
Sooooo they receive larger shipments. This will not change until Sony gets out of their backorder situation. It makes sense to me that a conventional retailer such as CinemaSource is allowed more units. I am not able to understand waiting 3 to 4 months for something that you can get at the same or better price else where. Sony will have a replacement model out before some of those people get their 10HTs. It's pretty strange. It's like a cult.
Gar ( 169.207.194.121 ) at 12:35 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Ron: I just love it, when there are places to find the Sony for sale(now) and these guys at MVS are making them wait forever. Thank God for our forum here and all the connections we have together.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.58 ) at 12:34 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
THX Screen
AVB: Hahaha....good one.
Gar ( 169.207.194.121 ) at 12:33 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Happy B-day
Tony this means your getting a big screen today right!:):)
Curtis ( 206.170.6.106 ) at 12:29 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Tony C's b-day
Hey Ant-ney! Happy frickin' birthday you old fart.
Gar ( 169.207.194.121 ) at 12:24 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony Forum
Ron H : That place can go "F" off. Got a E-mail from Jeff MCneal and he was a real asshole. I had no idea that MVS runs that site or financially supports it.. So basically if they don't like anything you say they can erase your post and kick you off, what a joke. Communists! I posted a thread to all the people that have been waiting months for the Sony Projector, and where to find one that was for sale. And I have seen items for sale on there before, but once again, just another site going from public open fourm to private, passord communist control.
Ron H ( 63.26.123.142 ) at 12:03 PM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Have a great one Tony C
Derb ( 208.134.148.93 ) at 11:58 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
B-DAY
HAPPY B-DAY TONY!!!
Ron H ( 63.23.241.244 ) at 11:48 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
M&K
BC: I just left a message on Floyds voice mail. They are going to start to wonder what those darn Texan's do with their speakers.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 11:46 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
No Digital Audio
mic: just a different cable. dvd is my only digital source.
mic ( 166.68.134.164 ) at 11:41 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
No Digital Audio
JJ: have you tried a different coax cable or a different source like a cd player's dig out ?
mic ( 166.68.134.164 ) at 11:40 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
MAK: I do this and then send the RF signal thru cable to 5 different rooms. I have not had a problem yet with macrovision. I'd try it.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:36 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Ron: That sucks that your speaker is wrecked. I hope the situation can be resolved as painlessly as possible.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 11:00 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Houston, We Have a Problem
Ron H: Call M&K, those guys are great at support. I am sure you are not the first nor the last guy who will have that experience. Good luck!
Ron H ( 63.23.243.167 ) at 10:59 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony Forum
Gar:Medical Video has exclusive rights for advertising. All others will be removed. It was some deal they came up with as part of the money that MV gave the forum to advertise there.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:57 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Happy Birthday Tony!
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 10:48 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Tony C - Happy B'day, man!
(Bagman - LOL! Nice post....sure is hard to keep track of everythin that's happenin' to everyone here any more!)
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.126 ) at 10:47 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
MAK: He may encounter Macrovision problems if he hooks the DVD player up through the VCR. A direct connection would be best.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 10:25 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
No Digital Audio
AVB: I thought of that. I don't have a toslink cable.
additionally, the signal sometimes comes in if a switch between inputs or between surround modes on the decoder. This makes me think that unit is the culprit. I think this problem cropped up after that power outage a few weeks ago.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 10:23 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
FELIZ CUMPLEAñOS ANTONIO C!
AVB ( 64.41.33.170 ) at 10:19 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
No Digital Audio
JJ: If you have toslink I would try that too. It might help to narrow down the problem.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 10:17 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
FELIZ CUMPLEAñOS ANTONIO C!
Gar ( 169.207.192.134 ) at 10:07 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony Forum
Ron H : "The Big picture" is a joke now. They locked me out and I can't get on to it. No reason or explanation, just another website with control in mind. I posted some helpful information for those People waiting on these units. I told them where they could pick up a demo, that was availble, they erased it and locked me out of there system. Pricks, I mean there are hundreds of people on a waiting list and I post this and they erased it. They must be in bed with Medical Video Systems.(revised) sleep deprived....
Gar ( 169.207.192.134 ) at 10:04 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sony Forum
Ron H : Ron, the place "The Big picture" is running is a joke now. They locked me out and I can't get on to it. No reason or explanation, just
another website with control in mind. I posted some helpful information for those waiting on this units, where they could pick up a demo, that was availble, they erased it and locked me out of there system. Pricks, I mean there are hundreds of people on a waiting list and I post this and they erased it. They must be in bed with Medical Video Systems.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 10:03 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Classifieds
Scott Veirs: There is, although not all that well used. Click on the Extras tab above and then Select What's for Sale on the left.
Of course, it doesn't hurt to make a short post that you've placed something there for people to go look at.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.159 ) at 10:00 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
M&K
BC: Thanks for the info. They are on the left coast so I will have tocall later in the day. I am not sure what they can do. The guts are really trashed. Maybe they have some sort of exchange program so I do not have to pay full price for a new one. You know they swap out the bad one for a factory refirbished one at a deeply disounted price. I guess I can dream.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.159 ) at 9:57 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Houston We Have A Problem.
Derb: LOL. Thanks for making me laugh.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 9:47 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Classifieds
Ever think about putting a Classified section on this website?
Derb ( 208.134.148.93 ) at 9:43 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Houston We Have A Problem.
Ron H : Ron that really sucks. Where was that no good fat cat of yours, when all this was taking place
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 9:34 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
VELODYNE - subs
Anyone know anything about the following Velodynes?
Veledyne 8100X
Velodyne HGS-10
Any info would be great. Other than whats on the website. (personal exp)
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:20 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
M&K
Ron, I feal your pain brother. Still waiting for my tweeter. Shit, I didn't even think to look at the crossover! I guess I'll have to pull out the stuffing and see if mine is damaged too. Floyd Martinez is the guy at M&K you want to speak to.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 9:08 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
No Digital Audio
So any thoughts? Toshiba 2108 + denon avd-2000
I've tried changing the player output between bitstream and pcm
I've tried both coax inputs on tthe denon
I've tried a different cable
I've 'reset the microprocessor' on the denon.
I get DD intermittently, but is usually static-y
I can get analog audio.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.98 ) at 9:07 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Kieran: You have mail.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.98 ) at 9:02 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Houston We Have A Problem.
I have been trying my side M&K Tripoles in various positions on the right and left walls. This was one of the reasons for the survey. Well in a 7.1 set up I discovered that the Tripoles worked best when they were slighlty forward of my sitting position. When they are beside me and I run the pink noise they give the appearance of being slightly behind me.
Well last night I decided on the location and in this case was forwrs slightly of my seat and near the ceiling. My next project was to see what combination of dipole mono would work best. So I set it up with the mono louder than the dipole speakers and then the reverse. I also tried the dioles and mono at the same level on the Tripoles.
After my last test I go to the kitchen to get a scotch. When I return I stood on the chair to take the speaker down so I could permently mount it. Well the speaker was no longer on the wall. It had fell to the floor. At first inspection it looked ok, no cabinet damage. When I took the grill off I found the tweeter was ripped from the surround and the magnet laying loose in the box. I pulled the back off and found the circuit board that I gues has the crossovers and allows you to set the differnt combinations of speakers was broked off the back mounting plate, some parts of the circuit board were bent.
At this time the woofer in the front still works but neither of the side speakers do and of course the tweeter on the front is toast.
I FEEL SICK !!! I need a barf bag.
Joe ( 152.163.204.212 ) at 8:43 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Good Morning Bagman,
How is the keys move coming?
Joe ( 152.163.204.212 ) at 8:42 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Looks like I can pick these up for $100 a oair. ANyone have expeiance wiht how these sound? It's a over the web purchase so I have not heard them. Model A-615
http://www.rbhsound.com/inwall/architectural/in-ceiling.htm
Joe ( 152.163.204.212 ) at 8:39 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Gar
Sounds like a plan With the Dark Angle tape. Since I am not stae over I will take it when you are done and send it back to Cal. I will send you my addy later, after my coffee
BAGMAN ( 208.131.247.54 ) at 8:33 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Tony C:Happy B'Day,don't stay out too late,don't drink too much and....ah screw it,have a blast.
Congrats to the new Dad's!!!
Congrats to the guys with new power tools.
Congrats to the guys with new gear!
Congrats to the guys with new jobs.
Congrats to Joe on the new six pack!
I draw the line here,I will not congrats a guy on new trousers. Have a good weekend,everyone.
AVB ( 64.41.32.113 ) at 8:09 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
THX Screen
Chris L.: I can't help you with the PC wallpaper but I will sell you a THX sticker for $100. LOL!
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.170 ) at 7:58 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Crap. Too early in the morning. Can't even spell my name right. LOL!!
Cris L. ( 198.144.140.170 ) at 7:57 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Morning guys! Anyone have or know where I can find a large THX logo to put on my PC screen here at work? You can email it to me at vader@empire.net
Thanks
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 7:53 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Good morning gang....
Tony C: Happy birthday buddy!
Curtis ( 206.170.6.41 ) at 2:01 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Sexy
Darian: You reminded me of something. Honda regularly puts out SE (Special Edition) automobiles 1st in the Japan market, then the US. Even more regularly you'll find the designation EX on most Accords/ Civics. Several thousand cars were built a few years ago as SEXY, a few hundred hit the US before someone put the brakes on the name.
Gar ( 169.207.193.52 ) at 1:46 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Darian, haven't seen the DVDO in action. I am just happy with the fact I will have progressive DVD with my new 10HT projector. I am still very impressed with the 10HT so far. Got a small sized room, not large enough for a CRT, but hell the picture is so good on this unit I could care less if someones black pants where a shade less black
Gar ( 169.207.193.52 ) at 1:41 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
DV-37
Darian: Cool Darian, you got it! I will get mine tomorrow, so I will be looking for your review.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.210 ) at 1:35 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
oops...
Kieran ( 134.139.23.210 ) at 1:35 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
70's show, Dark Angel
Kieran:
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:24 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Woops... those prices are EACH! This idea is based on using each amp as a single channel amp.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.210 ) at 1:24 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
70's show, Dark Angel
Gar: click my name to email me.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.210 ) at 1:23 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
70's show, Dark Angel
Gar: Email me your address, and I'll mail you the tape as soon as I get it back from my g/f's sister. You can send it to Joe when you're done, if he still wants to watch it, then he can send it back to me.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:22 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Derb: Here is an Idea. You want MONO BLOCK WITH JUST SICK POWER???
How about a pair of 1k2se/xe. (Pronounced "Sexy"?) These beasts will provide you balanced 1000+ watts at 8 ohms. $3795 a pair
Or a little more reasonable. A Pair of 1k2se. Bridged Balanced 1000 watts at 8 ohms. $2795
1 1k2se was powerfull enough in my HT to outperform the EAD in 2 channel listening.
I would be happy to entertain these ideas with you. After I figure out if Gennesis or DVDO makes a better 480P picture.
Kieran ( 134.139.23.210 ) at 1:21 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Dark Angel
RGB: I noticed the same thing about the aspect ratio switching to 4:3. I'm thinking that FOX11 had some problems.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:12 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
DV-37
Hey guys... got home from practice a hour ago. wagitt berated by the coach the whole time. "Damnit Nicholson! What the fuck is on your mind? You sure as shit aren't here right now. Your focus is non existant."
I have this interesting talent in Volleyball. I can replay the whole gam in my head at any point durring the game. This allows me to not only keep score in my head but stats too. I have a tendance to correct the score keepers durring matches, sighting not only that they are off but explaining how the last few points were scored. Coach caught my mind wondering.
"Nick! (He calls me this because there are two other players that have names similar to mine.) Why is it their ball? What happened in the last rally?" I had no friggen idea. "You got a new piece of HT gear didn't you! Well you are useless to us like this... go home and get it out of your system before our match tomorrow!"
How can you pay attention when you have the HOTTEST DVD player going. Everyone on the net who doesn't have HTPC is talking about this thing like it is the greatest thing ever! I have one... out there... in the trunk just outside.
Once being kicked out I had to make the stop at the girlfriends home. She lives right next to the practice gym. I do mean across a one lane street.
Finally I made it home. ANTICIPATION! Well lets clear the road. I unplugged my trusty iScan and DVP-S360 combo from my ONE pro input of my Sony HS10. I always watch DVDs with the iScan. I have been running the iScan in component output recently. Dish, DVD, and VCR are going into it. This allows me to double multiple sources. BUT YOU ARE OUT OF HERE! I have a DVD player that does progressive straight from the video board! None of this Video board, to S-Video, back to digital, converted, turned into progressive component, and then finally to my ISFed and constantly convergance tweaked 61HS10.
I put the best pair of DVD component cables on the DV37 and plugged it in. The unit is shipped in interlaced mode. The TV displayed "480i" as the input. Once you fire up the unit it is no problem to get the progressive option up. Clicking progressive caused my screen to flash. Then it displayed "480P" and a picture. Whooo that is some picture.
There were all sorts of details easily apperant. Cool! But the color is way the heck off. I produced a different video setting to accomodate the iScans output. I switched to the standard ISF setting. The picture got much better. Lots of depth and color. Plus there are more peramaters to adjust to make the DVD player interact better with the monitor.
Fine detail is improved in picture. But the biggest thing is the access time. This thing is quick... I mean really quick. Put in a DVD and you are off and going before you make it back to your seat. The Pionner rips through DVD menus and lets you access ALL SETUP SETTING WHILE THE DISC IS PLAYING! This is a long term pet peve with me. My Sony S-7000 let me do this and lots of DVD players that have been here won't.
I intend to write out a full review of this unit tommorow.
I have to tell you that I am not as blown away as the other reviewers yet. For fast motion or any sort of motion the DVDO beats the shit out of this thing. Tomorrow I will face off the S-Video out of the DV37 into the iScan vs the Progressive ouputs. Then I will go back to my referance of the S-360 with the DVDO.
Gar ( 169.207.194.151 ) at 1:02 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
dv-37
RGB: I was trying to get a B-stock Toshiba, and I did. It lasted a day and I sent it back. Then I heard the Pioneer units where out, so I called a guy at SoundPros and it was my lucky day. They had 5 units that where just dropped off by his feet, via UPS. The reviews the Pioneers units been getting have been nothing but positive and for $685 I thought it was a deal. So I will post my findings on what the unit does as far as Picture and sound quality goes. Should have it tomorrow. Didn't feel like waiting for the Sony unit yet, since there is limited SACDs and DVD-Audio software. Even though the Sony will only play SACD, seems like a waste to buy that unit till you know what way industry is going with the format war.
Gar ( 169.207.194.151 ) at 12:49 AM EST Friday, October 6, 2000
Threshold
Derb: as far as the T-800D goes, that monster Amp will run just about anything. There is a couple for sale on Audiogon. And as far as Pass Labs and Krell Amps go, my pricing is now down to just Sim Audio and Parasound and a few other companies. Most know I am not working in the business anymore and don't want to give out cost prices or deals anymore. Well some.
That will change because they are hungry to sell this Hi-End gear.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.106 ) at 11:15 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
MAK; You will have trouble on some copyguarded DVDs, even when you're not recording. The other solution is a Radio Shack RF Modulator. $29.99 (stereo)
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.106 ) at 11:10 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
One thing for sure, the way the software upgrades are flying for the Sony, at least they won't be putting out a new model anytime soon.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.106 ) at 11:07 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Curtis; Definately a plus! I could use a few hundred more DVDs! Maybe even an HK cd burner, or the Pioneer mega-DVD changer!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.106 ) at 11:02 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
TonyC; I'll probably be heading your way next week. Shopping for gear means a lot of driving and standing which wreaks havoc on my back, so I'll have to have a buddy drive, and he's usually strapped for time. I'll see if I can talk him into it.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.106 ) at 10:58 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Darian; I really need to get to a store, and play with the Sony, and Lex again to refresh my memory. Unfortunately, I only get Sunday off this week, so it'll have to wait till next week. If you don't mind, see what price they'll give you, it'll help with my decision. I'd prefer not to use up your I.O.U., you might need it someday, but I'm curious.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.106 ) at 10:49 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
AVB; Excellent suggestion! I really wasn't in a big hurry to get a pre/pro, but getting the Sunfire amp made me a little impatient. I also started thinking that I really didn't want to tear down my system twice, or let the amp sit for months waiting for me to choose.
AVB ( 64.41.32.117 ) at 10:49 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
DVD RF
MAK: I did the same thing with an LD player in a spare bedroom once for my cousin's kids and it worked so I think a DVD would work also.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 10:33 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
MAK: Yes you can and depending on the DVD you may be able to tape it also.
MAK ( 168.191.156.251 ) at 9:57 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
I have a friend that has an older TV with only RF input. I'm not sure of the answer to this... Can he plug a DVD video thru a VCR without recording and view it as a pass through signal? Thanx for any assistance
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:44 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
BIG AL: If you're driving this way, give me a call. You can check out the Lex DC-2 I have and see how you like the 7.1
And you won't have to fly to Texas!
Also, Home Music and Cinema is the company I called to calibrate my TV.
They can order lots of different stuff. You may want to give them a call. They are in West Chicago 630-876-1020
Curtis Hinsdale is nothing but tear downs. They city has started to pass some laws restrciting it. Man, talk about high property prices...
AVB ( 64.41.32.117 ) at 9:38 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
AMPS
Derb: It seems to be gone now...sorry 'bout that.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:37 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Sony XBR
Gar: THe XBR is doing ok. I finally decided to have it ISF calibrated. The guys were so busy, it won't be done till mid Oct.
But it's a cheap upgrade.
I'm sure that a FP is in my future. I'll be waiting for you or Ron to upgrade and snatch up your used HT10s!
AVB ( 64.41.32.117 ) at 9:35 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
AMPS
Derb: There is a Threshold on ebay and the company that is selling it seems to have a line on most of their amps.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.254 ) at 8:38 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Chris L.:It sounds like a fair deal to me. That is the exact saw I have. It is great.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 8:29 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Wild Bill: 8:30 it is! I guess I'll have to be on somewhat good behavior. Drat!
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.189 ) at 8:25 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Darian: You can bring the GF if you wish. We're on for 8:30 PM on Saturday.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 7:54 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
dv-37
trav1: I don't see what's the big deal on this Pioneer DVD player. Lawrence E. Ullman writes about it on E-town saying:
"Last year's SD-5109 is priced the same as the DV-37, but is stripped-down by comparison."
Really, how so?? They both do 3:2 pulldown, and I paid $500 for the 5109. Does he say this just because it doesn't have the Pioneer's 15 video tweeks? That's fine by me, as there's less of a chance to mess something up. The Toshiba SD-5109's video controls are just fine, and produce an excellent picture - and I'm sure on par with the Pioneer's. The SD-5109 also has a dual-disc tray and zoom capability to name some features that the Pioneer lacks.
I basically posted this same thing on E-town's response board.
Derb ( 199.174.7.11 ) at 7:48 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
AMPS
Gar: Can you get pricing on Krell & Pass Labs??
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 7:11 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
dv-37
For those that haven't seen it yet, here is the e-town review. http://www.e-town.com/categories/product_review.jhtml;$sessionid$A5AMTNIAAAGZRTYPVYYCFEQ?productID=8151&bodyinclude=product_review
Gar ( 169.207.193.238 ) at 7:02 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Sony TA-E9000ES Flash Update
RGB: You are correct, there is a newer version the 1.22c that is supposed to come out on CD-Rom. It is out in Japan already, supposed to be out in the US soon.
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 6:46 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Dark Angel
FOX was actually broadcasting Dark Angel in widescreen 480p mode here in SoCal. However, after the last commercial break it was switched to regular 4:3 for some reason?
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 6:43 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Sony TA-E9000ES Flash Update
What was the previous version of the Sony firmware, I thought 1.18c was it?
RGB ( 216.168.69.119 ) at 6:37 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Gasgeek: You're a GAS! LOL Well, maybe if you can arrange a date before Kieran leaves we can get together. HDLouie would probably show as well. Let me know, but I won't hold my breath - just send me that DVD! LOL!!!
Gar ( 169.207.193.216 ) at 6:10 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Pioneer 37
Darian: Sorry to hear that, mine is on its way from Cal. Got a great deal on it at $685 shipped. Well not as good as I used to get, but it will do. Mine should be here tomorrow sometime. And your right there flying out the doors faster than people can order them. Prices are usually sticking around Retail. I got lucky and in a middle of a conversation with a guy from SoundPros, the UPS dropped 5 of them right in front of him while I was speaking to him. He laughed and asked me if I wanted one today. I said send it....... But I can hear you on the bad note, that used to happen to me all the time working at Audiophiles. YIKES!!!!!!!!
Gar ( 169.207.193.216 ) at 6:05 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Ron H : Ron, I heard Threshold moved to Texas somewhere and is doing repairs. But there could be another company bigger down there also.
Gar ( 169.207.193.216 ) at 6:03 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
70's show, Dark Angel
Kieran: If Joe doesn't want it right away, I would love to see Dark Angel, one of the many that missed it. Send you a DVD gift to borrow it.........
Gar ( 169.207.193.216 ) at 6:01 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
AMPS
Derb I have had balanced Amps for along time. If your looking for truely balanced Audio, you want a Balanced Pre/Amp or Pre/Pro and a balanced Amp and CD Player. This is the system I am using now, and its the best I have heard yet, but I haven't heard everything(who has?). I have owned Krell/Threshold/Bryston/Classe'/Mark Levinson.. And Sim Audio. All the Amps I had and systems I had have always been balanced, at least the last 5 years, and it did sound better to me. As far as the Amps I mentioned, the Sim gear is great with the Threshold a close second. Threshold runs Class A all the way through, if you can find a Threshold T-800D you won't need Mono Amps. Had this unit in my system and I miss it It does a perfect job on the MLs.. Check my Pics in my Bio you will see it there.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 5:44 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
I'm having some digital audio problems. I don't have any. I can't figure out if it is my processor or my dvd player.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 5:42 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
cheap lcd panel
who was looking for this? did you check out www.partsexpress.com?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:37 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
:)
chris, marry her!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.180 ) at 5:35 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
voyager
Kieran: Well, to speak of the 1000's first... Umm... why would you want to hang out with THOUSANDS in one place? My guess is they spend their time in smaller groups... That's how I'd want to be anyway... the "announcement" (not only for destroying UZ but also for the virus warning, for them to be aware, find out what ship they are on, etc..) is probably passed from group to group by messengers that travel between groups. That's a logical social ordering...
As for the taking over of the ship, not a biggie there... The UZ drone's voice would drop out of millions... so the Queen couldn't detect them all, nor quickly... So the drone, (now an individual) could use the knowledge of being a borg to disable the rest of the drones from the collective... and perhaps use the same device to control them on his own (like, shut down the plexus)...
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.200 ) at 5:25 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Here's a good deal that should speed up the HT building process. The roomie's job doesn't allow her to get home in time to make supper for herself, let alone unwind for an hour or so before bed. This should go on for another month. So she told me today if I make dinner for her every work night for a month (nothing fancy and no fast food, food in a box is okay once in awhile), she'll run out tomorrow and buy me a 12" DeWalt compound miter saw!!
COOL!!
Kieran ( 12.13.238.141 ) at 4:07 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
3 more hours....
And I'm officially not employed by Boeing any more! 3 weeks off to get organized and moved up to Nor Cal.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 3:03 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
mag
Ron H, Tony C: Although Derb came to the rescue, thanks for your offers.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 2:19 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
voyager
Scott "popcorn": Did they ever explsin how it was that there were 1000's of individuals in Unimatrix Zero, yet we only saw about 10, and when they decided to dismantle UZ, the announcement only (seemingly) was given to those 10 or so folks? That kind of bugged me. Also, how could one of these individualized drones take over a Sphere or Cube? You'd think that as soon as the queen/collective detected the problem, she'd innitiate self destruct on that ship. Overall I thoroughly enjoyed the show, but some of these things bugged me a little.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.210 ) at 2:10 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
mag
Derb: Thanks
Derb ( 208.134.148.39 ) at 2:03 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
mag
JBC: It's on it's way
Derb ( 208.134.148.39 ) at 1:47 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb
Ron H : Audio Concepts is in the same location, just a new building.
They are on Sheperard and Hwy 59 you almost go under 59 they are on the right, white two story building. A kinkos copy is in the same strip on the left. Look for losts of Mercedes, Lexus and such in the parking lot.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 1:41 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Titans
hehe, yea and I would have never guessed she would go to his boat and another woman would be there! Thinking of the whole story line just cracks me up. "Oldest adopted fighter pilot son battles with younger natural brother to obtain a place in daddy's business while trying to get over the fling he had with his fathers new wife(which daddy doesn't know about) who is pregnant with oldest adopted fighter pilots son (who didn't know his love of the week was engaged to his dad) and oh yea, daddy's ex wife lives across the street and they have an alcoholic daughter and a I got all the brains daughter!"
Derb ( 208.134.148.39 ) at 1:39 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
addy
JBC: Try sending it to my work. bderby@scotindustries.com
Derb ( 208.134.148.39 ) at 1:36 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
AMPS
Darian: I wish Cinepro would make a Mono Block amp and the same goes for EAD. I looked at the Theta Dreadnought but decided no. The objective is still to try and break everything down into it's most finite being. I feel I will taking a step backwards going back to a stereo amp, or bridging a stereo amp (An after thought to creating a true Mono Block)
I'm also interested in an amp that runs class A with a lot of output, before going A/B. and really like a Balanced design from input to output. Take full advantage of my EAD Ovation balanced outputs
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.180 ) at 1:29 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
voyager
Kieran: Yeah, ya gotta love it when a Borg Sphere joins you in the fight...
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 1:19 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb: That is great, not to mention much appreciated. Post your e-mail addy so I can send you mine "brick and mortar" addy.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 1:17 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
70's show, Dark Angel
Joe: Let me know if you want to borrow my tape. I should have it back in a couple days.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.200 ) at 12:28 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Titans
BC: I can't decide if the acting or the writing is worse. Did you predict that the former alcholic daughter would be downing a fifth of whiskey with something as tramatic as her date being 20 minutes late?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:10 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Titans
curtis, yea I thought the same thing. Terrible acting. It'll probably be the next big hit.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.200 ) at 12:03 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Want a good laugh?
... Then force yourself to watch Titans. It's so horrible and predictable that I was rolling on the floor last night. A local reviewer said that was it's only redeeming value - he was right on.
Here's a taste. As the 20ish gold digger bride is slithering down the aisle with her grooms' son, who's giving her away at her request and who she had an affair with, she turns to him with an evil grin and says "I'm pregnant and the baby is yours!"
Ron H ( 63.23.241.225 ) at 12:00 PM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb
Derb:Who is the High End audio company that moved to a new large location. I drove by it a few months ago in town here and I can't for the life of me remeber where it was located.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:59 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Sony Preamp... Software 1.18c is out. GAr what level were you waiting for?
http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/service/tae9000es_license.shtml
Curtis ( 206.170.6.200 ) at 11:54 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Preamp Choices
BIG AL: Ok I'll third the Sony pre/pro nomination. Between Darian's deal and the ready market for used specimens, you would have little to lose giving it a try. I bet you'll enjoy it as much as the rest of us are. Just think of the DVD library you could assemble with the savings over the higher priced pre/pros.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:45 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
My DV-37 came in on Tuesday!!! They didn't call me!
Manager, "I asked when I came in on Wensday if you had picked up that player yet. The reply was... he was in here on Tuesday or Monday. (I wasn't) Let me see if there is one in the back. (Put on hold) Yo, we sold the last one yesterday, they just flew right out the door."
Me, "Thats not F@^#ing funny!"
Mamager, "Yes it is! No come on down later today and I will have the owner sign off on it. I wrote out a ticket for it and put it on the unit. It will be here when you get here."
GREAT! Like I can get anything done knowing that there is a DVD player one town over just waiting for me! The Owner is off with his kids. I have his cell phone number. Don't think I want to piss them off thou.
Just when I was about to get serious about doing a HTPC. Bill you are going to have to convince me this weekend.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.200 ) at 11:39 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Tony C: That Audio Consultants store is about a block from the house I grew up in. While I was out there a few weeks ago for funeral services I had a spare hour to check out the old house and the store. The house had been leveled and something that looked like a Disneyland castle now stands there with a for sale sign on it. The store was mobbed with customers who seemed to have a lot more money than brains. I couldn't begin to see what they were selling or talk with anyone who worked there.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:49 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb: I almost forgot. EAD has said something about the production of a Stereo Amp. I will dig up the article if you like. Have you looked into EAD amps? I forgot you are one of my EAD bretheran.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:44 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb: I compared a Krell KAV-500 to a Cinepro 3k6seI. The Cinepro mopped the floor with it. Haven't listened to Krells since. The system was EAD Ovation, and Martin Logan reQuests.
Big Al: I can probably get you a Sony 9000es real cheap. One contractor "rented" me to a local store. They are Sony ES dealers and have been, "Looking for a way to make it up to me." If the Sony is what you want I will go and see what sort of deal they will make me. The only thing is... if I take it out of the store they won't take it back. Unless it is defective or some thing.
Bill: We are on for Saturday? Shall I bring anything??? I am going to start on the slasa today or tonight. My girlfriend... would she be welcome at our little gathering? Should I just say... "its a guy thing."
Derb ( 208.134.148.164 ) at 9:49 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb
Gar: Right now I would really be interested in pricing on Krell 250 Mc and Pass Labs X600
Gar ( 169.207.194.2 ) at 9:40 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb
Derb: I still have connections in the Hi-End audio realm. So if your looking for Amps, depending on make I can get them at cost.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:34 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
CES
thanks for the hotel suggestions. looks like I can stay at the luxor, harrahs or ballys friday and sat. night for $330 (give or take a few bucks depending on hotel) including airfare from Dallas.
those that are going, let's try and meet up sat. or sunday and maybe have lunch, catch some of the booths, etc...
Joe ( 205.188.199.44 ) at 9:29 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
JBC
Ron H: If there are no other comers, any chance you could send it to me, I would read it (or have my secretary copy it) and send it back?
You must the top dog, having your secretary copy a HT mag for you. I think if there is a HT forum Hall of Fame for things said, this one by you should be in it.
Joe ( 205.188.199.44 ) at 9:26 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Kieran
MAn I missed the 70's show also
I was working outback and forgot about it.
Well todays adventure brings installing fence. I think I am never going to get to the point of just working on HT.
However I have to remind myself it is October and this is Michigan.
It would be a perfect day to be in the woods. Opening day for bow season was Sunday and the days have not been good. Low temps this morning , I bet the deer are moving.....uhm Fence or Hunting
Derb ( 208.134.148.164 ) at 9:22 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb
Gar: Nope don't need a new turntable at this time. Only the amps for now. Just thinking about equipment from the past and the stores we love so dear.
Derb ( 208.134.148.164 ) at 9:20 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Mag
JBC: I have the October HT Mag. What is your address and I'll drop it in the mail today. I can put some of those renewal cards from some other mags in it if you like. May make it seam like a new issue for you.
Joe ( 205.188.199.44 ) at 9:18 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Good morning
Anyone heard these before?
RBH Sound A-615 6.5" round ceiling speaker
Gar ( 169.207.194.2 ) at 8:57 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Preamp chioces
Big Al: I second AVB recommendation. For the money the Sony can't be beat as a Pre/Pro. This unit allows for allot of flexibility, they should have a new software version out as a upgrade via CD-Rom which should be released out this month. And used ones get snagged up quickly on Audiogon and Audio
Review.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.144 ) at 8:43 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
JBC: I am at the office now if you are free.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.144 ) at 8:40 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
JBC: Give me a call at your convience. I will be at the office untill 4:00 pm central time today.
AVB ( 64.41.32.210 ) at 8:02 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Preamp chioces
BIG AL: I have the Sony and it can't be beat for the price. The Lex does sound better in the Logic 7 mode if you have the ability to properly space the rear/side speakers. Since the MC-1 can be found for $3500 or so I'd buy a Sony and see how that works for you for a while first. If you don't like it you can get about $800+ for it if you sell and then spring for the MC-1. Buying the Sony will also give you time to check all of the other high-end units that are available before spending a large amount of money. JMHO
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 7:58 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Ron H: I need to finalize my trip by noon tomorrow. Is there a time when we can chat either today or first thing tomororw to finalize schedules. HHow does 4:30 PM EST sound?
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 7:56 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Good morning gang....
Kieran ( 134.139.24.53 ) at 1:25 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
voyager
That was a pretty great season premiere!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.108 ) at 1:09 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
RonH; I wish I had time to catch a plane anywhere!!! I haven't traveled farther than my other house in 5 years!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.108 ) at 1:07 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
My brain is too tired for this much thinking. Time for bed. Thanks again guys. I don't expect you to make my decision for me, I guess I'm just trying to make sure I'm not missing something. Between working on 2 houses, moving the remainder of my belongings, and trying to find space for it all, and work, I haven't enough time to do a lot of "hands on" research. My old house is finally finished and on the market, so that should give me some time to play again.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.102 ) at 1:05 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
BIG AL:If you can catch a plane to Texas you can see a Lex set up in a real life home theater.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.108 ) at 12:57 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Joe, not even close to 5k mark! But if the Lex is worth the extra grand (or 2 ?) I'll throw it at it. It's great not having dependants!!!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.108 ) at 12:55 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Gar,mic,RonH; I don't need THX, component switching, or EX (or DTS for that matter). I really like the idea of an easy upgrade path. Lex's trade-in is still on, but I plan on using my Yammie rec. in another system. I have a buddy selling a Yammie 992, and could buy that for a trade in, helping him and me. The Sony price is tempting, but the Lex 7.1 sounds great. Bass management is important, as my sub has no x-over, and I like choices. The DC-1 is out, not enough video ins. I play my records on a seperate system, and I set up my system so the wife doesn't need to use it to use the vcr,DSS, or DVD. She just listens through the tv speakers. So far Lex is in the lead, Sony a close second. I'll have to check out the Onkyo and Parasound, hopefully I can find real live examples to touch.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.102 ) at 12:46 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
JBC:It sounds like you have two Texans coming to your rescue.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.108 ) at 12:38 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Gar, sorry I missed your post last night. No time for IRC any more, just too much to do. Seems like every time I get on IRC, I end up there for hours.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.108 ) at 12:36 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Thank you gentlemen! I now have 2 more months worth of research to do!
Thanks TonyC, looks like I'll have to do some traveling my next day off. I like the guys at Sounds Deluxe, just high prices, same with United Audio. Looks like some window shopping, and button pushing is in order.
Gar ( 169.207.194.208 ) at 12:21 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
FYI
CinemaSource is selling a Demo Sony 10HT for $5800. Not bad considering there price increase. Ask for Tom at CineamaSource, there a great place to deal with. I have the Web addy somewhere................ This unit is in perfect condition, no pixel drop outs. Seen it in action.
Gar ( 169.207.194.208 ) at 12:19 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Tony C.
Hows that Sony Holding up. I sold my 53" XBR in a matter of days, actually a day, after I put it in our local paper. Got the 10HT going now, this thing is the next best thing to a good CRT.
Gar ( 169.207.194.208 ) at 12:16 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
Derb
Derb, what model B&0 LP player are you looking for? The Place I used to work at gets used ones in all the time. I just picked up a B&O CD player that is built like a tank for $65 bucks, retailed at the time for $1500. Always loved there build quality and sound, just never owned any, till now.
Also I see your a Freshwater fish guy....... Same here, but Wife made be give up my 200 gallon tank. Looking to go Salt with a 45 gallon.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:14 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
I had dinner with a guy tonight who is having a pro installer put a system in for him.
He's getting a Proceed AVP pre/pro, B&W Nautilaus speaks, and an Elite pro 63 inch TV. Not bad.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:12 AM EST Thursday, October 5, 2000
JBC: I'm on the road, but I can check this weekend. I think I have it (if the wife didn't toss it) and I don't mind parting with it.
United Audio has been in Chicagoland for many years. they were recently bought out by Tweeter, but pretty much maintain their image. My cousin still has his Dalquist that he bought there.
Derb, Audio Consultants.
That's the name of the store that I couldn't remember for Big Al.
It's east of Rt. 83 on Ogden in Hinsdale. I think they have another location up north too.
When I was shopping for speakers I visited a place in Palatine. It's where I first listened to the NHT VT=2s. But I bought them somewhere else.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.102 ) at 11:06 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
cai: You are correct. The LV Hilton is next door to the convention center. I have not been to a CES show there. About every three to five years the business I am in has a convenction there.
JBC ( 207.164.221.167 ) at 10:21 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Ron H, Derb: Ron, let's see whether Derb can find a copy lying around work. If he can, I will snag that one. If not, I will take you up on your offer. Thanks to both of you.
On the Crestron front... I am now a master programmer. Although the contracter got off to a great start I have taught him a thing or two. These guys who charge big $$$ for vanilla programming are a big joke. If anyone owens a Crestron or knows someone looking for work, let me know. This is a great gig -- it is like taking candy from a baby at US$50 an hour.
Derb ( 199.174.0.1 ) at 9:56 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
United Audio
Gar: Yeah, it's up around Chicago in the surrounding area.
Derb ( 199.174.0.1 ) at 9:54 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
United Audio
cai: I miss my Dalhquists and will some day return to a dynamic speaker. Say Revels, Wilson, B&W, JM Labs but until then my Martin-Logans will have to do. I had my B&O stolen and now have a Denon. Big mistake, should waited and got a VPI like I wanted. Can't see spending that kind of cash now on a turntable. Sure liked the way B&O suspention worked.
Derb ( 199.174.0.1 ) at 9:46 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Mag
JBC: Let me go to work and see if it is still there. A large stack of mag's is left behind from all sorts of folks. Might have been used as a plate a couple of times. I'll let you know.
Gar ( 169.207.194.41 ) at 9:38 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
United Audio
Question? Is this place in the Chicagoland area? If so, I bought a Pioneer LD player from the guys about 4 years ago. Cool place what I remember of it.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:12 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Mid 80s Fashion
Keiran:Ummm, I think I had one or two of those jackets back then myself. They were all the rage.
Joe ( 205.188.195.33 ) at 9:07 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Community=JoeAnniesremodeling&ID_Topic=3
I think I lost this on the last post.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 8:49 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
Ron H: I think you mean the Las Vegas Hilton. That is the one that has three wings and is where Diamonds are Forever was filmed. The Las Vegas Hilton is where the CES show has exhibits and it sits across from the convention center. The Flamingo is on the Strip in front of Caesars Palace, about 2.o miles from the convention center. However, you have been at previous CES shows and I have not.
Ron H ( 63.26.184.54 ) at 8:43 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
JBC: LOL I was just going to suggest I can send it to you and then you can return it a a later date. Let me know.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 8:41 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
United Audio
Derb: I still have the Dahlquist 30s that I bought way back. Funny, but I also have a B&O turntable that I also bought about 20 years ago.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.169 ) at 8:38 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
cai: I have stayed at the Hilton Flamingo the last few times. It works out great as the convention center is right there. I will say they seem to have the tighest games and slots. I have notn had much luck in that hotel.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 8:29 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
BC: I would go with Harrah's or Bally's, only because they are more centrally located on the strip. If you want to walk to the convention center you conceivably could, it is only about 2.0 miles. Central location and Hilton points are the reason why I stay at the Flamingo. Luxor is too way outside the main portion of the strip. The MGM Grand is 1.0 miles from Caesars and the Flamingo and the walk to the Alexis Park Hotel may be healthy but not impossible it is 1.5 miles. I have stayed at Bally's and thought it was quite good. The room I stayed in was bigger than in most other hotels. However, with a good price break the Luxor will make-up for all the cabs you may have to take.
JBC ( 207.164.221.116 ) at 8:27 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Ron H: If there are no other comers, any chance you could send it to me, I would read it (or have my secretary copy it) and send it back?
Ron H ( 63.26.184.176 ) at 7:36 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
Kieran: You are thinking of Treasure Island. Its pretty cool the battle and the ship that sinks during the show outside of the hotel.
Ron H ( 63.26.184.176 ) at 7:30 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
JBC: It has a review of my Sony 10HT in it. Other than that I would send you mine. Is there a special review you are intersted in that I could fax to you.
Derb ( 199.174.2.196 ) at 7:26 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Mag
JBC: Sorry, I have every other mag, I must have chucked it or left it @ work on the lunch table.
Derb ( 199.174.2.196 ) at 7:23 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
United Audio
Tony C: I bought my Dalquist DQ-30's from the Fox Valley store many years back. There is a nice store over in Naperville, bought a B&O turntable from them when I was in school; can't remember the name. And I think there is an Audio Consultants around someplace, they had some cool stuff.
JBC ( 207.164.221.229 ) at 7:19 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Well, HT Magazine continues to suck. After a week of trying to get a live person (one would think that customer service would have enough lines installed that one could always get through)I finally got a live person.
I informed them that I had not yet received my October 2000 issue and would like them to send me one. Guess what -- they are all out, not even 1 copy is vavailable for back order. They then informed me that they would extend my subscription by 1 month -- not exactly what I wanted to hear.
That said, does anyone have a copy that they no longer want? If so, please advise.
TIA...
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 7:07 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
BC: What's the one that has the Priate theme? I don't know much about Vegas and where each place is located relative to CES, but I liked that hotel.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 7:06 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Voyager vs WestWing
Scott "popcorn": The first hour of Voyager tonight is indeed a repeat of last season's finale, aka "Unimatrix Zero".
Joe If you like West Wing, then I would record Voyager, since it's only an hour, and West Wing is two. Unless of course you can make your self NOT watch the second hour of WW after Voyager is over!
Ron H ( 63.26.163.87 ) at 7:04 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
BC: My vote is also for the Luxor.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 6:56 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Voyager vs WestWing
Joe & Scott "popcorn": Thanks for the reminder. I'll have to set up my VCR to record Voyager, too. I plan on watching it also, but I like to back up things like that in case the phone rings etc.
Damn, I wish UPN was broadcasting Voyager in 16:9!!!!!!!! They're the only station in LA that doesn't broadcast their digital channel as 16:9 anamorphic. The picture quality isn't that much better than the analog broadcast, either with to me means that they're just doing a simple analot to digital conversion. Oh, well.
Gar ( 169.207.194.55 ) at 6:50 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Bill
No need to read the Post below
Gar ( 169.207.194.55 ) at 6:47 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Darian/WildBill etc...
Wild Bill: Bill thanks for the info on the Sony 10HT. And as far as posting I don't give a rats ass what you post. I was joking about the debate post. And please tell me, where I said where and What your supposed to post on here? I said can we please change the topic! No need to be rude Bill. You posted your opinion about the debate, and I posted mine, I just suggest we change subject. So Post on
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.181 ) at 6:36 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Voyager vs WestWing
Joe: hmm... Tape Voyager? It's the season premier of the final season... can't miss it! If I'm not mistaken, it's 2 hours long too... Yup, the TV Guide shows two hours... dunno if it's the season finale las season + season premier, or if it's a full season premier...
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 6:21 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angle
Joe: I recorded it, but the quality is not too hot (4:3, *OLD* tape, EP tape speed). Also, I have to give the tape to my gf's sister first, who asked me to tape the premiere of "That 70's Show" for her, which along with the "Titus" premiere, precedes the "Dark Angel" pilot on the tape.
But, if you want to borrow it, let me know, and I'll mail it to you when my gf's sister is done with it.
I doubt it will be repeated any time soon. Possibly later in the season, during re-run time, if the series does really well.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 6:06 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
BIG AL: Sounds Delux is a good place, I kinda like those guys.
There is a store east of Rt.83 on Ogden (Hinsdale) that will let you take stuff out, but like you said, I'm not sure about Pre/pros.
Holm Audio is even closer. It's right at I355 and 75th street in Woodridge. Very High end stuff. Very condisending. They let me take speakers home.
I own a DC-2. 7.1 was something I really wanted and my room could handle. I didn't have the money for the MC-1. I won't lend it out eather, but you're welcome to come over and run it through it's paces.
Oh, I also like United Audio. There is one near fox valley, but the manager in Oak Brook is a friend of mine. They have Krell.
Joe ( 152.163.194.196 ) at 6:04 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Tile update
Turns out there is some tile in USA. They are tiling my bathroom on Wednseday.
I have 4 quotes now on drywall and believe I have a winner. Hopefully another month.
Joe ( 152.163.194.196 ) at 6:02 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
BC
Mandaly BAy is really nice, however it is not on your list. Excalibur has small rooms. MGM has about 2 millon people in it all the time.
I would go with Ballys. It is sorta in the center of the strip. If I recall the CES show would be out the front door and to the right at the convention center.
David ( 209.86.140.133 ) at 5:58 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
BC: Of those, my favorite is the Luxor (pyramid-shaped with Egyptian themed casino, IMAX, etc). Of course, if you can stay at Bellagio for the same price, do it!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:51 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
CES
ok guys, looks like I am gonna swing CES this year. Which of these hotels would be the best bet: MGM grand,Excalibur,Riviera,Luxor,Harrahs, or Bally's? My friends travel agent has gotten us some great deals and says these hotels still have rooms.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.31 ) at 4:48 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angel
Kieran: The last 10 to 15 minutes were not in 4:3 in Houston.
Joe ( 152.163.194.191 ) at 4:13 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Voyager vs WestWing
Which one to watch tonight? Is Voyager on later in the week again?
Joe ( 152.163.194.191 ) at 4:12 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angle
Bummer I missed it. Do you all know if it is on again?
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 4:12 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angel
Ron H : Re. 480p, you are correct. Fox doesn't do true HD. All their "HD" digital material is sent out as 480p 16:9. Looks just as good on my set though, being that my max res. is 480i 16:9!!
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 4:10 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angel
Ron H : Yes the preview was in 4:3.
Preview? No i'm not talking about any preview, I'm talking about the last 10 or 15 minutes of the show! It was in 4:3 on my set. I'm wondering if FOX11 LA had some problems broadcasting it in some way.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.134.89 ) at 3:57 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Darian/WildBill etc...
Gar: Yep, I've been following Pat's articles in SGHT with interest. He is doing a good just of infomring the uninformed about HTPC.
What's the new software supposed to do for the Sony 10HT? If it bypasses the scaler you'll need a new scaler. If it bypasses the scaler for progressive DVD you'll be looking at less resolution than you are currently through the upconversion process that is done in the internal scaler. I'm not sure why you are so excited about 480p from a DVD player when your current projector is already upconverting a 480i signal to 1024 X 768 (I believe this is the resolution of Sony's internal scaler). If you bypass the signal you'll be looking at 720 X 480 when you already been watching 1024 X 768. What you'll need to do is buy another scaler and upconvert the 480p signal to 1366 X 768. Then and only then will you be utilizing the full resolution of the LCD panels. I'm not even sure how the Sony VW10HT will display a 480p signal when bypassing the internal scaler.
As far as the debate goes, don't read the posts. It has been discussed many times that we tend to drift off the topic of HT from time to time. I chose to drift. You can choose not to read but don't try to tell me what or where to post.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.31 ) at 3:53 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angel
Kieran: I do not think it was true HD, maybe 480p or somthing but still a good looking picture.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.31 ) at 3:52 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angel
Kieran: Yes the preview was in 4:3.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.141 ) at 1:25 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
oopps...
Kieran ( 12.13.238.141 ) at 1:24 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Dark Angel
This show was pretty sweet, IMHO. I hope the series stays as good as the pilot. Granted the premise has been done before, starting with the original "the fugitive". Also, it's very similar to "The Pretender" (I think that's the name of it) in that both protaganists are products of genetic research to create an enhanced soldier of some sort, and both research programs were "farms" where the protaganists grew up as children, and were taught their trade, then escaped. Now those that created the super-humans want them back. What the show is also like, for the setting, is any number of near-future sci-fi flicks that depict a corrupt society that came about as a result of some major disaster or war.
So, it's "the fugitive" plus "the pretender" plus "the matrix".
Ron H :} I agree that the 16:9 presentation was awesome. However did you notice that the last part (from the last commercial break to the end of the show) was in 4:3? I was thinking I had gone nuts, and that it was 4:3 all along... but I could have sworn that it was 16:9 earlier. Glad you affirmed that, but now I wonder why it went to 4:3 at the end. I hope this doesn't mean that the series is going to be 4:3.
????????
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 1:05 PM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Iphwin: LOL! Parachute pants were definitely a disaster... just yesterday I saw a guy here at work wearing a "Members Only" jacket that obviously (from the condition of the jacket) was bought in the mid-80's as well.... when I saw the jacket I felt like asking him if he had some parachute pants to match that jacket!
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 10:28 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Ron H: Of particular note, and what I am most fond / proud of, is the power control sequence in that I figured out a way to have separate icons to power on and power off the system depending on what source one is watching. It is not the use of icons that is tough -- rather it is logic needed to differentiate between on and off.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.226 ) at 9:07 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
JBC: File arrived. Pretty cool.
Joe ( 205.188.192.36 ) at 8:49 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Big Al
From what I have read, the Sony is hardto beat for the cost. Unless you are in the 5k mark.
Joe ( 205.188.192.36 ) at 8:48 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Bathroom Blues
Back on the Home improvement forum we join Joe in his 12th week.
" Joe we have smoe bad news"
Yea, whats that.
The bullnose for your tile is still in Italy, could you pickout another tile?
No
It's not due in the states untill October 26th.
You ever heard of UPS, they ship worldwide. Oh yea you guys are telling my wife.
I have not seen anyone today.
cai ( 205.254.147.21 ) at 8:28 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
BIG AL: To confuse you even more, SGHT reviewed a pre/pro from Thule, a few months ago, that apparently is the cat's pajamas. The problem, again, is trying to find a dealer near you. The nearest to me is in Philadelphia and then NYC. They are imported by Sumiko, who is also the importer for REL and Vienna Acoustics. Sumiko now has a web site and so does Thule.
mic ( 166.68.134.163 ) at 8:27 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
pre/pro
BIG AL: to add a few thing to Ron's reply, bass management is one area where your'll find many differences. Also video switching needs like Component and/or HDTV switching. Being that you mentioned Onkyo, I read they have a new pre/pro version of there top of the line 7.1 THX/EX upgradable Receiver, that reads very well, I'd check it out.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 7:51 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Good morning gang...
Ron H: File has been resent. As far as the reasons for choosing Lexicon, I did (as to be expected) a great deal of research and concluded (at least for me) that the Lexicon was the best value.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.135 ) at 2:00 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
OK some one else give the reasons they bought their Pre/Pro.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.135 ) at 1:59 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
BIG AL: I paid $3500 for my DC-1 and Lexicon gave me $3000 so I could upgrade to the MC-1. Some people had their DC-1s for 3 years or more and received almost what they paid for it as a trade.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.135 ) at 1:54 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
BIG AL: I guess you could get the new monster Denon receiver. Bang for your buck, the Sony is up there. Some upgrades with the Sony can be handled with software updates. The Proceed and Meridian also allow software upgrades. Lexicon does upgrades with IC chips. It is a little more inconvenient. I was able to get the chip sent to me and I was able to put it in without taking apart all my connections. To me it was no big deal. One thing to think about with Lexicon is that if they come out with a new model you will be offered a nice deal to trade in your old one for a new one. At the same time they will have updates/support as long as possible on the older units. They added EX to the discontinued DC-1.
If any one tells you that any one of these units blow the other one away, I would not consider their advice worth a piece of s@#$. The Lexicons, Meridians, EAD, Proceeds, etc. of the world all produce fantastic Pre/Pros and as I said earlier the Sony is a great piece.
I guess you need to consider ease of use, do you have records and feel a analog in and out without any digital conversion is important, Is 7.1 with stereo rears or sides Vs the THX decorolation, is THX important, is EX important, does it offer discrete on/off for total remote operation from a Pronto. Ease of use is important to me. Does your wife use it? Will you have to leave her three pages of directions on how to use the VCR or DVD player?
My decision was based upon no analog sources, ease of use, 7.1 speaker setup, unlimited tweaking, discrete codes available, number of inputs and outputs, support from the factory, a forum to learn about the piece, a place to go to for help and a forum that is supported by the manufacture. Of course, it must also sound fantastic. While there are many great pre/pros out there the Lex was the one that fit "my" needs.
Price is also an issue and at the time I purchased Lexicon was running a trade in program and I received $1500 off the price of the unit. The nice part was the dealer said he had an old receiver around that he would consider as the trade so I also able to sell my old receiver. Lexicon runs these programs about 3 times a year. I know one was going on a few months ago but I do not know if it is still in effect.
One can base their decision on many things but I think it is safe to say most all the higher end Pre/Pros sound great. Sound wise I would have been just as happy with the EAD, Proceed or Meridian. The Sony was not out at that time but from my demo, it is a very nice piece.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.115 ) at 1:26 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Tony C; If you know of a good Lex, Sony, Parasound, Sunfire, etc... dealer in the area, let me know. Sounds Deluxe in Naperville is the only one I know of. They're only missing Parasound.
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 1:24 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Big Al you still have IRC? On home-theater if your around.
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 1:23 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Big AL: Nice seeing you in here again. That Math Sucks! Sorry to hear that Insurance companies need a huge shot in the ass sometimes. Hope the Sega has served you well. As far as Pre/Pro goes, there are at least 4 of us on here that own the Sony, so if you have any question, shoot away.......
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.115 ) at 1:23 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Robert; The Twister one cracked me up. I try to control my volume finger, and only play it loud enough to make my guests think they're going to die.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.115 ) at 1:17 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
In case anyone's curious about my sudden cash flow, I finally settled with the insurance company. It's not even a third of what I should've gotten, but that's life. I'm taking a few grand out to celebrate the end of a 4 year battle. If anyone plans on battling an insurance co. anytime soon, be forewarned, they use the new, new math...ie; 45,000 - 13,000 = 3,000
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.115 ) at 1:09 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
RonH; That's my problem. Out here in the sticks it's hard to get in home demos. I can't even find a decent Lex dealer. My buddy's store considers Yamaha and Onkyo as there top line, nothing wrong with that, unless you're looking for seperates. The only Lex/Sony dealer I can find won't loan out anything. The other problem is switching pre/pros to compare is a nightmare! Speakers...easy....sources....easy....amps...easy...,but pre/pros....yikes! So I'm trying to narrow it down to as small a choice as possible by reviews, features, and others experience. Then I'll schlepp around to the dealers to evaluate what's left. I value EVERYONE here's opinion/observations, and would apreciate any. I've been researching this for months, but just when I think I've picked one, the playing field changes. Like Parasound coming out with their new pre/pro. The manufacturers never take a break!
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 1:02 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
AVB
Thanks for the Teasers!!!!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 1:02 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Doh! Both of "THESE",,,,,,, hahahahah Need sleep. Night all.
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 12:54 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Ron H: Frightened, I already am. Both of this Gimps couldn't talk there way out of a womens prision, or into one This selection process we have, is whoever has the most money gets to compete in the election.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.176 ) at 12:40 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
Debate
I'd sure like to see the presidency filled with someone who ISN'T a politician... Is it just me, or do all these guy speak with forked tongue? Let's get Spock in there. Frankly, I think I could do quite a good job on many of the issues... For example, Gore's attitude about the land is good... we shouldn't have to use "natural land" areas to obtain oil... as well as needing to work on advanced technologies... and cut down on oil usage... However, I have a problem when Gore says he trusts women to make the abortion decision for themselves... not because of abortion itself, but that he doesn't trust the common people to own guns... Does taht make sense to anyone??? As for abortion, I consider it a religious issue, and it infringest on the seperation of church and state... As long as the child has not come out of the mother (such as partial-birth abortions), it is a moral/religious issue. One could argue about when the child has a soul, or conciousness, or whatever, but there is too fine a line to determine that... Ok, that enough ranting now... But I don't mind private e-mail if you choose to comment on these issues with me.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.176 ) at 12:22 AM EST Wednesday, October 4, 2000
IR Repeater
Chris L.: I wouldn't call it a "good" deal... I haven't looked at Niles products much, but for not much more you can buy the Xantech equivalent from a store... YOu might want to check out www.xantech.com to get a feel for their hardware... You might also check out Niles' site.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.178 ) at 11:50 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Gar: Read his book "Earth in the Balance" you will come away quite frightened.
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 11:15 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Bill did you see this Article in SGTHT...... http://www.guidetohometheater.com/shownews.cgi?817
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 11:10 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Debate and Now moving on to better topics.....HT.
Wild Bill: Yeah,lets not get into the SL loan scandal. Hasn't come up yet but it will, and Mr.Bush has his hands plenty dirty.... Geesh! How about some HT now.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 11:02 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Debate
Wild Bill: Yes, but just think what that Governor did to the Presidency. (aside from being impeached)
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 11:02 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
And can we please talk about something else now.... There are IRC channels for this... There both qualified on paper, so what. We need a leader not a puppet, and these guys are puppets.........
Gar ( 169.207.194.66 ) at 11:00 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Debate
Wild Bill: Well I can't say too much for the Bushwacker. Constantly on the negative. No thanks to either of the morons.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.111 ) at 10:57 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Debate
cai: What strikes me most is the short memory of the American people. People are questioning whether a Governor is qualified to be President. Hello-o-o-o-o!! William Jefferson Clinton was the Governor of a much less influential state than Texas just 8 years ago. Sheeesh!
Robert ( 63.11.62.49 ) at 10:56 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Funny stuff - To me anyways
http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001130.html
scary thing is,,, I can answer to more than a few of these !!!!
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 10:07 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Debate
Wild Bill: I agree with you 100%. I have been watching broken arrow on UPN and tuning in the debate for glimpses at a time. Not to be overtly critical but when I look at Gore closely he reminds me of one of those Romulan or other outer space characters in the Star Trek Next Generation series. The ones that held Picard prisoner, torturing him, and asking him how many lights he saw.
My wife just jumped when I mentioned the resemblance to her. She had been thinking also of whom Gore reminded her.
Derb ( 199.174.6.102 ) at 9:55 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : M-L Senarios to the sides at ear level. With most of the sound blasting into the couch. This room really sucks for surround speakers. I would like to have them off to the back at about 45 degree's to the sweet spot at ear level.
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 9:46 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Monster.com
Joe: what are you looking for? if it's IT realted, try DICE.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:32 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Debate
Wild Bill: Just remember, we don't elect the Vice Presidents.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.134.60 ) at 9:31 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Debate
I apologize for bringing politics into the forum but any show that has Al Gore on it for more than 15 minutes should come with a mandatory barf bag. He can't even follow the rules he set for the dabate. Bush has no recourse but to go outside of the rules also. JMHO, of course.
Ron H ( 63.26.185.195 ) at 9:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Dark Angel 16:9 HD looks pretty darn good.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.120 ) at 8:07 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Kieran: Back at you.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.120 ) at 8:06 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
BIG AL: You know my thoughts on the pre-pro. you need to do a home demo with each you are interested in. That way you can see if it functions in the manner you want, check ease of use and set up and of course sound...
AVB ( 64.41.33.18 ) at 8:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Towers, direct radiating, tweeters about 1' above ear level when seated. Located near back wall.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.120 ) at 7:56 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Ron
Joe: Are you talking about the foam pink sheets?
Ron H ( 63.26.171.120 ) at 7:54 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Speakers
Joe: Sometning to consider aout using the 150's on the rear is that they are a THX design. That means for best results the tweeters need to be aimed at your ears as the have very little verticle dispersion. The Tripoles or another of M&K speakers may be a better option. Many of M&K speakers use the same tweeter as the 150's so a match in sound should not be a problem.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.120 ) at 7:48 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
JBC: I think I left part of the addy off I gave you. Try ronhtx@msn.com
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.51 ) at 7:40 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Now that I've upped my power, I'm looking at pre/pros. I can't decide, there's just TOO many choices. I'm leaning toward Lexicon DC-2, but the Sony looks good, and will leave extra cash. I'd like to stay as close to, or under 2 grand if possible. I need tons of inputs, music is as important as HT (umm home theater ), adjustable x-over, and although I don't need DTS anything, I have room for more speakers. Any suggestions? Anything new I should look at?
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.250 ) at 7:38 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Monster.com
Joe: I got my current job through Monster.com. I applied for one position, was contacted the next day, interviewed the following day and flew to California for training on the 4th day. It worked well for me. I hope you have similar results.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.51 ) at 7:30 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
RonH; My couch is 3'-4' off the back wall. I have direct rad. towers identical to fronts on stands in rear corners. They are aimed at opposite couch ends so they're not aimed directly at closest person's ear. The tweeters are slightly above ear level, and about 4' from nearest end of couch.
Joe ( 205.188.192.179 ) at 6:58 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Speakers
My current setup in my living room is direct speakers. Right Rear on top of china cabient 6' behind @35deg 80" to center. Left same but screwed to wall.
In the new room I am setting up for 7.1. Not considering money. I would have M&K 150 tripoles for the sides. M&K 150 rears to match the front L/C/R. Since money is not considered and I will have a wall 32" out the fronts center would be behind a perferated screen
But since I quit my job, I am not going to mention new speakers out loud
Joe ( 205.188.192.179 ) at 6:53 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Ron
In the morning I have to buy some of that pink sheet. I am going to make boxes for the speakers. I will let you know about the tounge & groove then. You may want to pick a few sheets up and just place them around your room. It could be a $20 experiment.
Joe ( 205.188.192.179 ) at 6:50 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Monster.com
Evening gentlemen.
Has anyone used monster? I posted today and got a hit in 5 hours, is this normal?
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 6:35 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
JBC: Why is it when I hear micro-fiber(or -fibre based on geographical location) I start thinking of that mid-80s fashion disaster of parachute pants?
Any particular brand you might steer me towards? I am but a sheep in the field of consumerism. Who shall be my shepard?
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 6:30 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Afternoon gents...
Ron H: No problem. If possible I will try to drop by at the end of my trip -- the weekend of the 11 and 12th. Also, let me know whether you ever got my e-mail that I sent you earlier to day.
Iphwin: Get a pair of micro-fibre pants. They are incredibly light weight and wrinkle proof. These pups really travel well.
Gar ( 169.207.193.207 ) at 6:02 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Duh!!!! http://www.guidetohometheater.com/shownews.cgi?817
Gar ( 169.207.193.207 ) at 6:00 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Well that's odd. Comes up with my bookmark but doesn't show up when you click on here. Hmmmmmmmm
Gar ( 169.207.193.207 ) at 5:58 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Darian/WildBill etc...
Darian: Should have a Pioneer 37 DVD player here by Friday. Picked it up for $675 shipped, but then they upped the price a tad. Friend picked one up for $695. Have never seen a Progressive scan unit running on a Projector for a lengthy period of time, I hope I am impressed. Hell so far the Dish Network looks great on the Sony 10HT. I also hear this,,,,,, The new Software allows Sony to take a full advantage of the native resolution. So new software upgrade on the way..... Here is the site with info.......
http://www.guidetohometheater.com/shownews.cgi?871
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.194 ) at 5:58 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
IR Repeater
I saw this on eBay. Is THIS a good deal at all?
As you can tell I really have no clue as to what I'm looking for. I pretty much get the concept but I'm not familiar with the equipment.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.176 ) at 5:55 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : In my current setup, the surrounds are mounted along the rear wall, dipoles, about 8" down, and just outside of each end of the couch (couch against the rear wall)... not the best setup by far... If I were to have my way, I'd have the surround sides about a foot behind the listening position, with at least 3 to 5 feet from the speakers to the rear wall, with the speakers being about 1.5' to 2' above the listening position. The surround rears would be at that same level, or a bit higher, spaced 1/4 (or a bit more, but not close to 1/3) of the room width. All speakers would be dipoles...
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 5:54 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Ron H : You've got email!
Ron H ( 63.23.243.107 ) at 5:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
FYI
JBC: I just received a e-mail informing me I will be in San Diego from November 1st till November 6th.
Any of you guys in that area??
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:18 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WAY OT - casual pants
Wild Bill: Yup, info just like that. I didn't want to automatically default to Dockers like I had in the past.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.245.149 ) at 4:15 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WAY OT - casual pants
Iphwin: Casual pants like khakis? I have quite a collection of Dockers but lately I've been getting the Calloway trousers from Nordstrom. They come in khaki, olive, navy and black. Very nice, no iron trousers that REALLY don't need ironed if they are properly maintained (i.e. you wash them inside out and immediately put them on hangers when the dryer cycle finishes). I'd qualify them as dress casual. Is that enough trouser info? LOL!
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:09 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WAY OT - casual pants
I'm in the mood to pickup some more casual pants and wondered what other folks wear and what their experiences were. I'm partial to pleated w/cuffs and price isn't that much of an object. TIA.
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 4:07 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : -
Ear-Level, Located to the rear, direct radiating (aimed at the rear wall to disperse their output)
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:06 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
One more post and I'll fill up the screen. Oh, wait...I just did.
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:05 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
NoVA HT Thing
I'll bring some 2-liters of Mountain Dew, at least one each for Darian and I. Any other requests of a nonalcoholic nature guys?
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Identity Crisis
Jeez, I can't seem to settle on a nick...
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:59 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
Darian: It was me, Iphwin(was NeoSonic before SonicBit before The SonicBit before Sonicsomethingelse....
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:55 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Wild Bill: Saturday night is fine for me as well. I'm taking some time off work so really ANY day would be fine.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.220 ) at 3:44 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Dipoles. About 2' behind listening position, 6' up on the wall. Of course I'll be putting them a bit closer at a later date.
Ron H ( 63.26.123.229 ) at 3:12 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Darian: Make that November
Wild Bill ( 63.38.134.78 ) at 3:08 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Make that a 12:00 AM kickout rule. Duh!
Wild Bill ( 63.38.134.78 ) at 3:07 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
JohnO, Darian, CAI and delurker: What movie(s) are we going to watch/demo? We can do the clip thing or whole movies. I have an early morning Sunday so there will be a 12:00 PM kickout rule. No 3:00 AM or 5:00 AM thing this time (Darian and lurkerboy).
Ron H ( 63.26.123.229 ) at 3:07 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Darian: It must be october. I will check when I get home.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.134.78 ) at 3:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
JohnO, CAI, Darian and delurker: Saturday night at 8:30 PM. The kids have swimming at 5:30 so we'll have time to get home, have dinner and get everyone situated. See ya'll then.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.134.78 ) at 3:03 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Directs, located 6' behind the listening position, 6' up, 1' down from the ceiling, wall mounted and pointed to intersect just behind the sweet spot.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.116 ) at 3:02 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Directs at ear level placed to the sides and slightly back.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 2:18 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
Wild Bill: Saturday is good for me, pick a time. I had just about decided to start in on the HTPC anyway.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 2:16 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Direct radiating, rear corners of the room, a foot from ceiling, each about a 45 degree angle from the listening position.
JJ ( 216.8.19.19 ) at 2:12 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : dipoles, side (slightly behind the main listening, iow the null is a little behind my head), above ear level (about 8 inches from the ceiling)
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:04 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Whoa! That hasn't happened for awhile! Oh well! 
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:03 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Wild Bill: I know, I know!!! I had hoped to give it to him at a gathering at my place as far back as June or July. It just hasn't happened. Between vacations, guests, work and the new grandchild, it seems I don't have any spare time anymore. The time has allowed RGB to add other choices to his DVD wish list however. Along with "Ishtar", I now also have the choice of sending him "Heavens Gate" or "Batman and Robin"(dts version). hehehehehe
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:02 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Wild Bill: I know, I know!!! I had hoped to give it to him at a gathering at my place as far back as June or July. It just hasn't happened. Between vacations, guests, work and the new grandchild, it seems I don't have any spare time anymore. The time has allowed RGB to add other choices to his DVD wish list however. Along with "Ishtar", I now also have the choice of sending him "Heavens Gate" or "Batman and Robin"(dts version). hehehehehe
cai ( 205.254.147.21 ) at 1:48 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
HTPC ARTICLE IN SGHT
Darian: I just got it in the mail, it is the November issue of SGHT.
mic ( 166.68.134.164 ) at 1:38 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : right now my room is wider than longer sides: directs above, positioned to fire at sweet spot, rears dipoles above with the sweet spot centered between. I plan on redue my room make it longer than wider, and then move the dipoles to the sides inline and above sweet spot, and directs to rears above, but who knows what I'll do then.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.16 ) at 1:36 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Gasgeek: Christ, just send RGB the DVD! LOL!! How long have you owed him that thing? Seems like a long, long time.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.16 ) at 1:35 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
Darian: LOL! I'm not sure if I still have ANY of the gear in my member profile. There has been a considerable change. I suspect the speakers may be the only constant.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.16 ) at 1:33 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
Darian: The Pioneer DV-37 will do us no good. I have no way to hook it up to the projector. You'll just have to make do with my gear this time.
The delurker is Sonic. He changed his alias.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.16 ) at 1:31 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
cai: Saturday evening will work. I already have approval from "the boss". The burned CRT has nothing to do with watching a signal from a particular source. Everything works. The extreme left and right sides of the image are brighter and have truer colors (gray scale) than the burned portion. You'll see. I'm getting 2 new CRTs from KPD later this month and once they are in this projector will look incredible. It looks quite good right now but it doesn't *shine* the way it will.
Joe ( 205.188.198.51 ) at 1:15 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
For anyone who is interested, my brother bought from here. He redid a chapel and the lights are nice fro the price.
www.lighting-and-fans.com
Kieran ( 12.13.238.140 ) at 1:03 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Direct radiating, behind me on the back wall, above me, about 8" below ceiling.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.140 ) at 1:02 PM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Gasgeek: I'm moving north in the last week of October.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:59 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Ron H: My new surrounds are the NHT VS-2A's. My couch is right against the back wall and so I have the direct radiators angled down from where the ceiling and wall come together and pointing toward the center of the room. Not perfect, but then my room sucks.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:57 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Gasgeek: Good Morning all! Haven't been on for awhile. Life is nutz!! By the way, the better half said "Absolutely No Way Are You Putting an 18" Subwoofer In My House!" Soooooo, Saturday, Brian and I drug the Velodyne F1800RII up the stairs into my tiny apartment. Damn that thing's big! The heavy cavalry charge in "Braveheart" is awesome. So is the synthesized low note in the "Tina Turner, Live From Amsterdam" Proud Mary cut. My buddy was laying on the floor when it hit and he just started laughing. He said the whole floor was moving. Whew! I hope the girls downstairs still have a sense of humor. Still don't know if I'm going to keep it, but it's a thumper. Maybe too much.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:50 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Kieran: How much longer are you going to be in the area?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:50 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
RGB: If you're around, I got your email. Just keep forgetting to respond. I would still like to get together, but haven't got a clue when. I will more than likely just send you your "BLOOD DVD!!!"
Jeff S. ( 198.133.22.69 ) at 11:10 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Mine are located on the rear wall, above ear level while sitting, and are bipoles.
Darian ( 209.122.238.230 ) at 10:52 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Ron H. Is it October or September?
On the Survey thing... all my speakers are DR
Darian ( 209.122.238.230 ) at 10:50 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
You need to update your member profile.
Darian ( 209.122.238.230 ) at 10:46 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Ron H : Same hieght as fronts. Behind me.
Ron H ( 63.25.63.78 ) at 10:43 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Survey
Are your rear/side speakers located above ear level, below ear level or at ear leve? Are they located to the sides or to the rear? Are they bipoles, dipoles, tripoles or direct radiating?
cai ( 205.254.147.21 ) at 10:35 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
D/A - A/D CONVERSIONS
Darian: I have to finish reading the article and try to understand why this piece of equipment is so great. I will bring my questions and the article to the meet. It may be trivial but it has to do with sound quality and inputs.
Ron H ( 63.25.63.78 ) at 10:28 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Darian: I just received it yesterday.
Darian ( 209.122.238.230 ) at 10:17 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Cia: What is the question regarding D/A A/D.
Does it matter? EAD makes awesome DACs!!!
Really, whats the question?
Darian ( 209.122.238.230 ) at 10:15 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
I have a Match at 9:00 in Fairfax On Friday. Saturday Eve is much more likely. Plus it will give me time to go to the store. I can't show up without Salsa. Also I should be able to get my hands on a Pioneer DV-37 this week. I can't come to your place without gear and Salsa. It just wouldn't be right. Want to check out anything from my gear boys? Look at the member profile for me... Now that I don't have to cart about the EAD amp... most of the rest moves without much difficulty.
I think I still owe Sonic 10 bucks.
Also who was the guy who went "delurk for salsa?"
cai ( 205.254.147.21 ) at 9:23 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
Wild Bill: I am OK Saturday evening. Let me know at what time. Does the burnt CRT mean that we won't be able to see the satellite signal going through the HTPC? Is this on the new FP? I want to ask the gang some questions regarding d/a and a/d signal conversions. I am reading a review of a Thule preamp that seems to be a prety good piece of equipment.]
Darian ( 209.122.238.230 ) at 9:06 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
What month of SGHT is it? Also is there a shopping list for what you will need? I am getting more and more currious about the whole HTPC thing. My boss has really gotten a hard on for Plasma recently. The scalers in Plasma don't even look good hooked to line doublers. A HTPC might be just what these things need. They are ment to be used as computers anyways...
Ron H ( 63.23.241.174 ) at 8:17 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Pink Sheets
Joe: I will await your return with the info.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 8:12 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Good morning all...
Chris L: As a future Crestron owner (but one who paid nowhere near retail), I can tell you that list on the Crestron 1550C (which includes the touch panel and the ST-CP processor) is $US2,500. To that you have to add IR transmitters and software. Then, you need to program the sucker -- figure another US$500 to US$1,000 depending on your ability and desire to program it, that is if you have a dealer who is willing to get you the software. Also, unlike the Pronto, programming is tough...
simm: No problem. You told me late October and that is fine. I will wait to hear from you and honour our deal!!
Joe: Please e-mail the corning info to me at joel_cohen@watsonwyatt.com
Joe ( 152.163.205.11 ) at 7:58 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Well it's off to the Sod farm and some Coffe on the way.
BTW I went with Niles CM77 for the Bathroom & Laundry. They were priced right and seem like a good starter speaker. It is really hard to tell what a speaker will sound like in a room of ceramic and fiberglass. For the cost I could remove them and upgrade without to much heartache.
Joe ( 152.163.205.11 ) at 7:55 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Pink Sheets
Ron,
I believe they are also tounge & groove for a snug fit. I of course will have the mandatory HD run today, I will look.
Joe ( 152.163.205.11 ) at 7:54 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Cutting holes before Coffee
Good morning all
Todays free advice from the "Oh Shit" is cutting holes for incieling speakers.
No matter how far away it looks from the truss always take the time to measure. First hole by the shower went smooth. The next one a equal distance from the wall and the fan....well it hit a truss. Now I have to patch a hole in the cieling and recut over a few inchs.
It's what I get for working before coffee.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.60 ) at 7:37 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
Ron H: Pat Megenity has been a mainstay over at the Home Theater Computers Forum at AVScience for as long as I can remember. He's extremely knowledgeable about HTPC (as you can tell from his articles). I like his writing style. He is very clear and gives good instructions.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.86 ) at 5:59 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Chris L.: You have mail.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.86 ) at 5:25 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Joe: Good question on the pink sheets. Those covered in a material would be nice and a fairly inexpensive solution.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.86 ) at 5:18 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Chris L.: Unless you have doors on it by all means put the equipment out of the line of sight. All the blinking and flashing lights can be distracting and will take away from the theater experience.
I know we all spent quite a bit of moneu on our equipment and want to show it off but the equipment is not the center stage of a HT. The picture is.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.86 ) at 5:11 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
WildOne
Wild Bill:Pick up the latest issue of SGHT. There must be over 10 pages on HTPCs. Great info.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.123 ) at 5:03 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Chris L.: IR repeater stuff is pretty kewl... and also quite easy to work with... You simply need an IR emitter for each component, which you stick on the component over the component's "remote sensor"... you run the wires from these emitters to one or more "control blocks", basically it's a cheap "hub" of sorts... the device is powered by a wall wart, and last but not least, you have the "eye", which you can place anywhere really to pick up the signals. All it does is sense the remote signals at the eye, and sends them down the wire through the control block to all the emitters... no biggie really. If you want to get really fancy, they do have additional components... such as if you have multiple identical components (say, two Mits VCRs), that you can use different IR commands for each component, and the "box" you get for the IR system splits up the IR codes and sends them to the appropriate emitter... Crestron systems and the like use the same IR emitters, so you can expand the system in the future if you choose to do so...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.123 ) at 4:54 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
CES
cai: And perhaps the HTOC contigent can send reports in to htoc.net too.
Gar ( 169.207.193.229 ) at 1:52 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
FYI
Guy has a Classe' 400, about 80lbs for sale. UPS damaged it and he is selling for $1050. I guess the outside is in perfect shape and there is no Physical damage to the box, he took it to a dealer and they said the transformer was off its post and some IC boards where broke. Well from my experience the Transformer needs to be tightened down and the IC boards looked at. I think his local dealer is trying to make a buck. We had heavy Parasounds Amps come in like this after transport, things loose inside, but once you tighted everything up no problems. Hmmm, if I actually knew this Guy I would buy it.... I think it retails over $5000.00.
BYork ( 166.90.40.106 ) at 12:47 AM EST Tuesday, October 3, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: -
Congrats! Welcome to parenthood...hope you cope easily with sleep deprivation!
GAR ( 169.207.192.36 ) at 11:53 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Sony TA-E9000 Owners
It seems that there is a new software upgrade, it was released in Japan, version 1.22 and it comes on a CD Rom. Should be released here sometime in October, plus there releasing a new remote that works with this unit too. I guess on the new version they have a EX-Virtual mode and a couple others.
Curtis ( 206.171.33.65 ) at 9:59 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Joe: Your TV for the bathroom? Now there's a guy who likes HT everywhere. A couple of TT's on the seat and you're set!
Joe ( 205.188.195.32 ) at 8:45 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron Chris
I have been thinking of Owens ridge pink sheets. They use it on houses on the outside. I wonder how that would work inside a HT room?
Joe ( 205.188.195.32 ) at 8:44 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
My Mikita cordless went to the cordless heaven. I started this morning out at Lowes. Picked up a new Dewalt 18v Drill & Sawzall. I do agree with Ron, I use my compound power miter alot. Today i framed in the Tv for the bathroom. Took my measurments, went to the saw and zip zip zip all done.
Joe ( 205.188.195.32 ) at 8:41 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Chris
You should have layed on the floor in pain. You might have owned a Creston for free
Joe ( 205.188.195.32 ) at 8:40 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Evening All
Scott;
I did my I quit my job drinking yesterda, so my perception reading and posting was off.
Ron & chris:
Remember on AVS there is a post on how to make your own sound panels.
JBC:
I have the package from Owens on thier theater sound packages. Makes for some real cool reading. Price is around 30K for a room treatment.
It basically is a 4 part system. IF you want I will fax the sheets to you. I just went to he website and ordered it.
I also went to armstrong and there sent a huge ass book of thier products.
simm ( 152.163.201.48 ) at 8:16 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Pronto
JBC: I am still planning on getting this from you. Been having computer problems and unable to access often. Will be out of town until Friday but will be in touch this weekend or early next week.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.5 ) at 8:15 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Before I rough in the space for the equipment rack, what's the story with IR stuff? How much is it, what does it do, and where do I get it? I was going to set the rack in the left wall in front of the seating but I'd love to put it all behind the seating area, out of the way.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.219 ) at 6:36 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron H : You have eeeeemail!
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 6:28 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Robert: Funny thing is, (or so I've heard) the bigger the bills you have, the faster you loose them!
Robert ( 63.11.60.166 ) at 6:22 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Kieran: Dollar bills, what cheap ass ballet have you been to? HAHA These places take $20's like you wouldn't believe. Not that I've been there, my counterpart has a story or two that would be good to share though.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 6:17 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Robert: Is that the type of Ballet that causes men to loose dollar bills one (or two or three) at a time every 5 minutes or so?
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 6:15 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
One of these days, I'll have to make a trip to CES with a buddy just for kicks... sounds like an interesting experience!
Robert ( 63.11.60.166 ) at 6:15 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
cai: Am I going to WCES??????? yea, I'll be there, although if it's like last year,,,, I will only need to go for 3-4 days instead of my usual 7-8. I'm going to try to limit my time to Wed-Sun, Depends on when our awards night is,, but Fri night always looks good for a drink. BTW, if you really want to save money, stay away from the ballet.
Curtis ( 206.171.33.65 ) at 6:14 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
15" Crestron screens
Chris L.: The old phrase if you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it, likely holds true for this particular line. How many thousands do you think they go for?
Curtis ( 206.171.33.65 ) at 6:06 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Gar: Oh the freak show @ WCES? You had to wonder what planet most of these creatures were from. The most popular item for sale last visit was the "Dickhead" cap ... yep, a huge piece of latex.
There's a reason the show hides these people and their booths away from everything else - they're a combination of frightening and very humorous, IMHO.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.219 ) at 6:05 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Hey guys. Just got back from Ensemble. It's a higher end HT store near here. I went there to get a few ideas for the new HT. So I'm just wondering....what do those 15" Crestron touch screens go for anyway? I just about bought one today. Really...I'm serious. I took 2 steps into the dark room and tripped right over the damn thing. I've got the blood stains to prove it. Thank God the thing wasn't broken. I walked out of there shaking.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 5:57 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Robert: I am getting the car because I plan to drive outside of LV; it gives me some flexibility. In LV as in NYC, taxis are a rare commodity when you need them in a hurry.
By the way, are you going to next year's CES? As an idea, maybe the HTOC contingent in attendance can get together for a drink or a meal and compare notes.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 5:42 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
3 more days
Kieran: For a lark, get in touch with my friend and buddy of yours Andy Gemmell. His number is 562-496-8682 and as you remember he works with you at ex-Mcdonnell Douglas.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 4:49 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Kieran: I do hope that you recover quickly. The best remedy I can think of is a trip to a DVD retailer.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.141 ) at 4:43 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
3 more days
Boy am I bored. Only 3 more days of work here at Boeing... I think I'm going to be sick tomorrow
Robert ( 63.11.57.168 ) at 3:56 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Advice from someone who has been to every CES since 88, don't rent a car !!! Between walking, the shuttles and the taxi's, there's no need to rent a car.
cai ( 205.254.147.21 ) at 3:35 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
BC: Two days is better than none, however, $750+ could buy an addition or improvement to your home theatre. I was also caught in the same conundrum. I rationalized it because I am using a free mileage airplane ticket. Never mind that hotel, meals, and rental car are going to run-up the bill quite a bit.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:54 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
2 days isn't much to take in all the HT... and the home theater stuff too.:)
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:54 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Cai, yea I checked out that site already. And Legend airlines has a friday night flight that arrives around 10 and then one that leaves sunday night at midnight and arrives here in dallas at 6 am monday morning. I just haven't decided if I want to spend the money for only 2 days in vegas.
cai ( 205.254.147.21 ) at 2:32 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
BC: Find out if there are any flights from your nearest airport to LV or connecting to LV, that will allow you to leave Friday evening and arrive in LV before midnight. Also see if you can take a red-eye back on Sunday.
If I were you I would visit the CES website and find out where the main exhibitors, or those that you consider must see, are located and hit those places exclusively. From what I gather there are three main locations; the Las Vegas Hilton, the Convention Center, and the Alexis Park Hotel. I think there are also exhibitors at the Riviera. Some manufacturers that do not want to pay fees to the CES rent rooms at some other hotels.
So far I am arriving on Thursday Jan 4 and leaving on Tuesday Jan 9, so I will have an idle day on Friday to do some other things. Since I do not gamble, the stock market does not count, that means that I will probably be headed to Valley of Fire State Park. Some Westerns were filmed there. In order not to cloud my judgement and senses I will most probably hit the "HT" exhibits on Monday. A mind in the sewer is not the most objective.
Let me Know if you decide to go and maybe we can team-up for a beer. The Imperial Palace is almost next door to the Flamingo Hilton.
Gar ( 169.207.192.2 ) at 2:21 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Doh!
Gar ( 169.207.192.2 ) at 2:21 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
PS2 and PSone
Well just stopped in at the local BB, and they had a demo of the new PS2 system, sweet looking and sounding. Does DTS/DD etc....... And it does a very good job on Movie playback. Also for the road, the PSone system is compact, about 5 to 6 inches and is used for playback of your old games, I think Sony did this just incase some of the older games can't be played on the new PS2. Most of them can I guess, but some of the really old games I guess might not be able too. So for $299 you can get the PS2 and add another $99 and your good on the go with the PSone. And I must say, as a Ex-Sega Owner
this thing even looks better, with better games on the way. Lets not forget playing some of these games in DD or DTS. Way Cool I say!
Gar ( 169.207.192.2 ) at 2:21 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
PS2 and PSone
Well just stopped in at the local BB, and they had a demo of the new PS2 system, sweet looking and sounding. Does DTS/DD etc....... And it does a very good job on Movie playback. Also for the road, the PSone system is compact, about 5 to 6 inches and is used for playback of your old games, I think Sony did this just incase some of the older can't be played on the new PS2. Most of them can I guess, but some of the really old games I guess might not be able too. So for $299 you can get the PS2 and add another $99 and your good on the go with the PSone. And I must say, as a Ex-Sega Owner
this thing even looks better, with better games on the way. Lets not forget playing some of these games in DD or DTS. Way Cool I say!
Gar ( 169.207.192.2 ) at 2:15 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Kieran: hehehehehe. Got a huge laugh out of me on that one. Thanks
Kieran ( 12.13.238.140 ) at 2:11 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Gar:you were saying what is HT?
Answer: HT = HUGE T!TS !
Gar ( 169.207.193.8 ) at 1:30 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
Curtis: Lets not forget the Porn Stars! hahahahaha. The Last CES Show I was at there where so many of these lovely siliconed women floating around, you were saying what is HT?
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.28 ) at 12:57 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
OK, I'll be newly married again the NEXT time I post. Honest!
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.28 ) at 12:56 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
WildOne
Iphwin: Yes, little elf, it's time for a gathering. Please don't criticize my burned CRT too much. KPD and I are fixing the problem.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.28 ) at 12:55 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Darian: Maybe this weekend? Let's see if JohnO, CAI and SonicTheHedgehogButt are available Friday or Saturday night.
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.28 ) at 12:53 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Hey boys! I'm off to the church to renew my wedding vows. My wife and I weren't married in the Catholic Church the fist time around and she can't parktake in Holy Communion. So, we're off to rectify the situation. I'll be married (again) when I next post.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.33 ) at 12:53 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Curtis: LOL I know about all your previous moves hence the wink. 
Curtis ( 206.170.7.93 ) at 12:48 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
BC: I can lose $750 in Las Vegas in 3 hours easily. Seriously though, I must agree that 3 days is about the minimum for the past CES shows I have attended due to the facts that 1) everything is so far apart and 2) the sheer volume of stuff being shown. 3 days is also about all I can take of that town, period.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.93 ) at 12:30 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Ron H: Move?! Are you nuts or something? Keep in mind that I have moved 3 times in 5 months, I'm staying put this time.
Ever hear what moving and childbirth have in common? If you clearly remembered what it was like the last time, you would never agree to go through it again.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.33 ) at 12:01 PM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
BC: 3 days minimum.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:37 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
CES
cai - The imperial palace still has rooms available but I am debating going. I haven't accumulated any vacation time yet (new job) and my friend that wants to go is on vacation the week before so he can only go for the weekend. So I am tying to decide if spending a minimum of $750 bucks is worth going to vegas for only sat. and sunday. I've never been and from what I have heard I don't think I could take it all in (CES, gambling, etc.)What do you guys think, 2 days enough time?
Gar ( 169.207.193.42 ) at 11:30 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron: it doesn't work with the latest version of Netscape. It worked with Microshaft Explorer.
Ron H ( 63.25.63.212 ) at 11:29 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Gar: Did you register yourself? Everyone needs to re register.It only asks for your user name real name e-mail.
Gar ( 169.207.193.42 ) at 11:24 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron everytime I go to reply, and type out a reply and hit pre/view it sends me back to the fricking password page again. And again.............etc.
Gar ( 169.207.193.42 ) at 11:21 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron, I wonder if there is a waiting period before the Password is active so you can reply to posts. I think its bullcrap they went that route. I am using a newer version of Netscape I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
Ron H ( 63.25.63.212 ) at 11:19 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Gar: I just went there. I acted like I wasgoing to reply to a post. I put in my user name and password then hit enter as if I next was going to type a response. I then backed out. Now everytime I try to reply to a message it no longer asks for name and password. It seems it is a one time deal.
Gar ( 169.207.193.42 ) at 11:12 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron H: looks like that new Sony 10HT site has gone to hell. Now you need a fricking password every time you reply to someone. Very Lame, looks like the bigpictureDVD page royally screwed that place up.
Ron H ( 63.23.241.43 ) at 10:41 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
cieling=ceiling
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 10:21 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron H: LOL - yeah, not a bad show.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 10:20 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron H: LOL - yeah, not a bad show.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.131 ) at 10:17 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
unrealated to HT but...
here it is anyway. For any of your porsche fans. Check out the link. BTW, to keep replies out of the forum, you may email me at sdveirs@sysnetix.com.
http://www.us.porsche.com/english/news/modelinformation/carreragt/default.htm
Ron H ( 63.23.243.217 ) at 10:03 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Chris
Chris L.: Here is a quote from a professional HT builder installer:
" Carpet on the walls, IMHO, will be a waste of money. While carpet glued over sheet rock does have absorptive qualities, the absorption you're getting is in the wrong frequency ranges for the typical home theater sized room. This is a case where you could solve one problem and make a new one in the process."
Ron H ( 63.23.243.217 ) at 9:42 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Chris
Chris L.: Carpet may not be the best solution for wall covering. Carpet acts only on a small range of frequencys unlike a special designed acoustic board that works on a broader range.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.217 ) at 9:40 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Chris
Chris L.: Have you considered glueing the tiles to the cieling?
Iphwin ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:38 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
WildOne
Wild Bill: Do I hear the possibility of a NoVA Thing happening?
"I delurk for salsa."
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.44 ) at 9:03 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Chris
Scott "popcorn": Okay. I already have 4 cases of new 2'x4' ceiling tiles. They were going to be used to finish the basement before the HT idea came about. I was going to paint them a dark gray and paint the metal frames black...all flat of course, but now maybe I'll just screw them into the ceiling. Or would painiting the tiles defeat the purpose? The walls are all going to be carpeted as well (still deciding on a color scheme...maybe dark burgundy carpet, dark gray walls?).
BTW... YES, I'M LISTENING!
Ron H: Yes...a compound miter saw is definately the way to go. All I have (so far) is a DeWalt cordless drill and circular saw. I find the cordless drill to be an invaluable tool. It's more than paid for itself and the extra rechargable battery is a must.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 8:36 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Bill: When can I come see this thing?
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.156 ) at 7:54 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
WildOne
Darian: Yes, I route the satellite through my HTPC using a program called dTV. It's freeware and is under constant development. I see occassional tearing (once every 2-3 minutes at its worst) but the improvement in image quality over a line doubled satellite image is stunning. It is still garbage in, garbage out, but at least my garbage doesn't stink. I'm upconverting satellite to 540p. I'll probably move it up to 600p once I get off my lazy ass and set up a 600p resolution. KPD feels that I can push the 6PG Plus to 680p and still have a sharp image with no softening. I think he is right on the money. At 720p for DVD playback the iamge has a ton of detail. Reference DVD players? That's a joke as far as I am concerned. NO DVD player I have seen, progressive output or otherwise can hold a candle to HTPC. I alo have absolutely NO problems with nonanamorphic material. In fact, I upconvert and scale nonanamorphic material and you'd swear it is anamorphic. The only place where HTPC does not shine is video based material.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 6:52 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Good morning gang!
Tony C: I guess I should have been more specific -- is there anytrhing else! I did check out the rack and noticed a few new goodies including the one you left!! Much thanbks!!
RonH: SOrry that you had such a bad day -- at least odds wise. I have no idea how much the stuff costs. I would call a local dealer and ask -- usually the cost includes a room analysis, installation and re-testing. The stuff is amazing though!!
Ron H ( 63.26.164.58 ) at 1:57 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Chris
Scott "popcorn": I am planning on glueing the tiles on the ceiling. I believe it was Armstrong who makes some for just that purpose.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.119 ) at 12:36 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Chris
Joe: I was kidding around... after all, he did ask, "What more could a guy need?"
Ron H: Good call on the power compound miter saw and the cordless drill... IMO, the cordless drill is a MUST HAVE... Also a good call on the bright sound... Chris's "drop ceiling" might be a half good idea after all... instead of drywalling the full-height part of the ceiling (and maybe the horizontal parts of the soffit), Chris should use furring strips and screw acoustic tile up to the ceiling... it wouldn't cause problems like a drop ceiling would, and he could use the black tongue-and-groove tile made specifically to mount that way... Are ya paying attention Chris?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:31 AM EST Monday, October 2, 2000
Ron: Stopped in and saw the DreamVision at my local dealer yesterday. The Sales guy turns to me and asks if I know what channel is HBOHD on DiSH. The Girlfriend barks out "9440 But the movie thats on right now, "Were no Angels", is an older film. I am pretty sure it is being upconverted and scaled to 16:9. You would be better off showing the new HD Demo channel. That one is atleast actual HD."
The look on this guys face was priceless. The guy he was trying to sell to suddenly wants my girl's opinion on the image. "IT SUCKS! Look they aren't even using the computer hook up thing." The DVI connector Kitten. "What ever, it looks like they are using the HiDef signal down converted to S-Vid..."
By this point I was just laughing. All those times I thought she was tuning me out.
"You want to see a real picture??? You should check out a ISFed CRT."
I love her.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.58 ) at 11:56 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Curtis: Move!!!
Ron H ( 63.26.164.58 ) at 11:55 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC:
1. Yes I did watch some football. I had the worst day in 3 years with my picks.
2. Can you give me a idea on pricing on the Corning stuff?
3. No problem on the Pronto. I still need to make my mind up if I want to go for color.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.58 ) at 11:51 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Wild Bill: Goog joints come from stuff we grow in the back yard.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.58 ) at 11:50 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Wild Bill: LOL How did you guess?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:42 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
WildOne
You have to have me over to see your HTPC. I am getting currious as to what can be done with these units, especially with the rising prices of Referance DVD players.
You route the Sat picture into your HTPC too?
Tell me some more.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:29 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC:
Check your DVD collection. You already have it.
Ron H: I agree with JBC about the acoustic wall treatments. I would think that you may only need a couple of bats or panels to control any really bad slap-back. I still have a problem with standing bass waves in one corner. Fortunately, I don't stand in that corner while wathcing movies.
Hey, speaking of movies, I finished watching High Fidelity. Great flick, with some great bits. Plus, I didn't know that it was filmed in Chicago. One of the first scenes, there is a poster in the guys apartment for a club, that's been here forever. I thought, well that's weird, then it turns out there are a bunch of references to hip clubs in town. One reason the movie was more entertaining to me. That and the fact that I know people like the guys in the record store. Weird.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.246 ) at 9:58 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Ron H: Good idea to screw down everything in your HT. Please share you technique for screwing down a large wall of rattling windows.
JBC ( 207.164.221.144 ) at 9:37 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Well guys (and lurking gals).. gotta run. Gotta pay some bills by 10:00 PM so I can watch the Sopranos.
Tony C: I see that Arista turned 25. Any special CDs/DVDs I should be picking up?
JBC ( 207.164.221.144 ) at 9:35 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Ron H: Hope you were able to enjoy some football. Two quick thoughts:
1. With resprect tro acoustic tratment for your room, have you heard and/or are you considering Corning's product. I have read a lot of very positive reviews. Moreover, the guy who is programming my Crestron deals in this stuff and the effect, which I heard at his shop, was amazing!!
2. With respect to the Pronto, I will know more in two to three weeks. That is when simm said he wanted it. I wil, of course, honor my deal with him but... if it falls through I will give you first crack!
Wild Bill ( 63.21.93.17 ) at 9:18 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Ron H: I'm looking for goog joints! Can you give me detailed instructions? LOL!! Sorry, I had to poke some fun at that one. You must type in the dark while watching the projector as I do.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.181 ) at 9:16 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Joe/Chris L: Have you guys gave any thought that your room may end up a little on the bright sounding side? Mine has ended up that way. I have came to the conclusion it is due to the fact I have more hard surfaces in my HT room than I had in the family room. The only soft surface in the HT room is the carpet and couch. In my family room there was more furniture, books ,curtains and I guess even the lamp shades help. As my family room opened into other room I guess you could say I have more hard wall surface in the HT room.
I find when I clap my hands in the HT I get a slight echo. I had no echo in the family room. I am thinking about putting acoustical tile on the ceiling (it will also help hide my only fair sheetrock work up there) to help tame the problem. I also an seriously thinking about adding chair rail at about ear level and put acoustical panels on the lower part and then cover them with material that will match the couch which is a burgandy/cranberry color. I think the chair rail solution is the best one.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.181 ) at 9:00 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
For What It's Worth: HT Construction Tools
Joe/Chris L: One saw I did purchase that came in handy and as a mater of fact used more than my circular saw was a power compound miter saw. I found it let me do far more accurate cuts on my 2x4s etc. than my circular saw. I do not think I hardly used my circular saw. You can through in a few pieces at a time and in one cut they are all exactly the same. Do get one that will take a 4x6 if you decide to purchase one.
It also is great for the things it is desigeed for such as mouldinds around doors and windows not to mention the dreaded crown moulding. If you are looking to get goog joints and very accurate cuts this is the way to go.
This suggestion comes from someone who is not a carpenter and has only about 3 or 4 power tools. Another handy power to have is the RotoZip. You can't beat it for cutting holes in wall board etc. One last suggestion is get at least a 12 volt cordless power drill and make sure it comes with or you purchase a spare battery pack. I put all my 2x4s, mounted my wall board and just about every thing else with screws. I felt it was easier and less likely to have a problem with vibrations. With just these few tools I managed to build my HT room.
Joe ( 205.188.195.24 ) at 8:01 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Chris
You have no need for a table saw or a planer or a joiner. If you are a carpenter, yes but you would not need this forum to tell you that.
A sawzall is a home owners best friend. Most cuts can be made with a circular saw with a little thinking.
Derb ( 199.174.6.196 ) at 6:28 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
AMPS
AVB: Thanx for the info, I saw those on e-bay but did not bid. I did however bid on the 250M's for $5450.00 and was the high bidder. However the reserve was not met. The dealer has e-mailed me and said he would honor my bid. What do you think?? Should I jump on them?? It seams like really good price. I know where the amps are, about 2 hours away. A dealer has them in his garage, and this guy helps him move his used gear. I'm thinking about cutting out the middle man and making an offer to the source.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.204 ) at 6:23 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Whew!! Okay...one wall framed. I could have done more but the floor guys are coming tomorrow to replace the kitchen floor and I had to get everything out.
The room's looking good so far.
Derb ( 199.174.6.196 ) at 6:22 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Uncle Buck
CytoTech: Congrats on the new baby. Just got done being uncle buck for the last three days. Man that's hard but fun..
Derb ( 199.174.6.196 ) at 6:20 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
bryston 7b's
trav1: Thanx for the lead. I found another pair on audioshopper. Only problem is I need to see the back panel, in-order to see if it will take large spades. The new European binding posts may be a down fall for this amp. Write to the UN "Electrically Challenged Banana Plug Recepticale s" save our five way binding posts.
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.214.152 ) at 5:50 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: Congrats Cyto......I know you've got to be as happy as can be....
Ron H ( 63.26.174.184 ) at 5:31 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC: I could be. I need one more but I am not sure if I want to wait for the color one or even if I want to pay the price of a color Pronto.
JBC ( 207.164.221.75 ) at 4:51 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Ron H: In response to your question... yes, simm has agreed to purchase it. Should the deal fall through (i.e. simm cancels), would you be interested?
Ron H ( 63.26.185.64 ) at 4:03 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: Congrats!!!
Cytotech ( 38.37.100.76 ) at 4:01 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Proud Papa!
Thanks again guys! Wow, I think I'm suffering from sleep depriviation, so excuse any misspellings.
Kieran: Thanks for the kudos on the name!
Wild Bill: Thanks for the APGAR explanation.
BTW, you can see his picture online(although it's REALLY compressed, and we are pretty pissed about it). Go to www.brookwood-medical.com, then click on web nursery. Then enter the code 007-24534. That's about it!
Check you guys later.
AKA: Get some sleep guy. I know I'm gonna try.
Curtis: I bet! My daughter is already almost 3. I can't believe it!
AVB ( 64.41.32.193 ) at 3:52 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
AMPS
Derb: There is a pair of Krell MDA 500 mono blocks on ebay if you want to look. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=451332511
Ron H ( 63.26.185.64 ) at 3:13 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC: Did you sell your Pronto yet?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.233 ) at 1:38 PM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
HT Beginnings
Chris L.: What else could a guy need?
Well, let's see... a Delta Table saw for starters... a jointer and a 12+ inch planer would be nice too...
Actually, you might want to have a look at what I've been doing...
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 11:58 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
bryston 7b's
Derb: Here's a pair on audiogon. http://audiogo5.iserver.net/cgi-bin/cl.pl?ampstran&975597184&2&3&4&
Ron H ( 63.26.164.82 ) at 11:56 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Oooops
Ron H ( 63.26.164.82 ) at 11:56 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC: Also I think that as we move on toward whole house automation any manufacture that does not have discrete codes will be at the low end.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.82 ) at 11:56 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC: Also I think that as we move on toward whole house automation any manufacture that does not have discrete codes will be at the low end.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.82 ) at 11:54 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC: Every DLP I have looked at will not be able to turn off and on with discrete codes. I know of no way to even develop a work around for the Dream Vision.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.82 ) at 11:50 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC:Most of the electronics at the level you would consider for purchase either have discrete codes or you can develop a work around. I would not buy more than one. Amps would be my largest concern but most pre/amps and amps have this abilty. The only piece I an not turn on/off remotely is my amp for the TTs. But I know there are devices that I plug it into that serve that purchase.
Joe ( 205.188.192.176 ) at 11:01 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Morning all
johnbr ( 24.112.158.229 ) at 10:31 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Gar:There subwoofer is design to give you killer bass only when you are sitting.If you stand up most of the bass go's and if you go out of the room no bass.
JBC ( 207.164.221.152 ) at 8:24 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
That was weird...
JBC ( 207.164.221.152 ) at 8:24 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Good morning guys.
Chrisl L: Send us many picture.
cai: If you do find that article, please let me know which magazine and issue it is in. I went to look for the same article after you told me about it but could not find it -- the only Crestron related article I could find was one o an 18,000 square foot home that was completely automated which contained no info on the actual programming. That was in AVI.
Crestron Question: What is you opinion about manufacturers moving to discrete on/off codes. The reason I ask is that Crestron makes "add-on" pieces that are used to provide discrete on/off codes for all components via current sensing capabilities. Like all Crestron gear, gulp, this stuff is NOT cheap. ANy thoughts on whether I should pick two or three units up (as each unit only accomodates 2 pieces of gear) or not get them as they will ultimately be a waste of money?
JBC ( 207.164.221.152 ) at 8:23 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
GOood morning guys.
Chrisl L: Send us many picture.
cai:
Crestron Question: What is you opinion about manufacturers moving to discrete on/off codes. The reason I ask is that Crestron makes "add-on" pieces that are used to provide discrete on/off codes for all components via current sensing capabilities. Like all Crestron gear, gulp, this stuff is NOT cheap. ANy thoughts on whether I should pick two or three units up (as each unit only accomodates 2 pieces of gear) or not get them as they will ultimately be a waste of money?
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.104 ) at 7:05 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
HT Beginnings
Scott "popcorn": Oh yeah. I saw that episode also. It looked very, VERY cool!
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.104 ) at 7:04 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
HT Beginnings
Scott "popcorn": Wow!! So many great ideas...so much fun ahead! I'm keeping all your guys' suggestions in an ever growing file so I can go back to it when I need to. This place really is a wealth of information. I'm going to start framing today. Went out last night and bought a DeWalt circular saw, some nails, and a carpenter's square. What else could a guy need?
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.104 ) at 7:00 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
JBC: I was thinking of putting the M&Ks on stands for now but leaving room for hanging them if and when I get a FP. Believe me, I'm going to frame, wire, and plan on everything I can think of for future setups.
Michael AKA "proud new daddy" ( 209.180.140.108 ) at 1:39 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
Proud Papa!
Hello all! Still not getting much sleep with the new baby. So what is new with everyone?
Cytotech: Congrats! My daugther, Sarah Anne, was born on September 14, 2000. She weighed exactly 7 lbs and was also 20.25" long.
Gar ( 169.207.194.194 ) at 1:17 AM EST Sunday, October 1, 2000
johnbr: Looks like there using some Dynaudio Tweeters, they should sound sweet........ Not clear on there Woofer section.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.220 ) at 11:36 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
HT Beginnings
Chris L.: I was thinking a bit more... first off... There is a system which I'm sure you could fit into the soffit along with the heater duct... They showed it on a This Old House episode... it uses a large box mounted in a hidden location which houses a halogen bulb and a fan... then it uses some large fiber optic strands to distribute the light... By making the soffit a little bit deeper (you say the duct is 6" thick in height, and 1.5' in width from the left wall? Make the soffit 12 1/2" finished height, or even a bit more, to the top of the door casings...) it should leave you plenty of room for standard recessed cans, as well as the conduit to fish wire through.
In addition, I had another thought last night... you could put in recessed cans and sconces alternating... so that the sconce casts light up in a cone between the cans, and the cans cast light in a cone between the sconces down the wall and to the floor. Tell me... WHAT would be KOOOLER? You'd have to decide how many lights you wanted and how much of a "shadow space" would be between the sconce cone and the can cone... but that would be just plain awesome. then, you could paint the soffit a grayish metallic color (think Death Star wall colors), paint the full-height ceiling black, with a "frame" hanging about 6" from the full-heights ceiling (yes, dammit... use the Star Wars idea if you want... who knows when or even IF I get around to doing it... But I would demand LOTS of pictures if you do it, and I'd be happy to give you plenty of input on it )... and of course, either the wheat lamps or star "dots"... (another option would be to make the soffit have a hidden recess around the inside perimeter for FL Blacklights, and use blacklight paint for the stars.) Another thing... you might want two halogen "spot" eyeball lights on each side soffit located in strategic locations so that you can have a light "spot" on a coffee table in the center of the room for the remote control (third light control... on a dimmer... I told you at least three seperate lighting controls!!!)
Last, but not least... I'll kick yer butt if you don't put in the conduit... I ran some CAT-5 to an existing telephone wall box that had conduit run in the attic... it was a piece of CAKE... heck, it was easier than that... It was a cookie! just twist the wires together strategically, duct tape them, and start tugging... just like peeling a really long banana is about the ease it was...
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.120 ) at 11:33 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Kieran: Apgar is a quick, down and dirty, initial assesment of a baby's health. How quickly the skin pinks up, how strong the cry is, etc., etc. It is done twice, immediately after birth and again when the baby is taken to the nursery. I'll bet you REALLY wanted that information, didn't you?
Kieran ( 134.139.23.88 ) at 9:01 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: I have no idea what APGAR means, but 8/9 sounds good! Congrats! And a fine choice on the names... He'll grow up strong and wise with good Irish names like that!
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 8:34 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
ces
BC: Did you manage to find a hotel in Las Vegas for the CES show?
johnbr ( 24.112.61.241 ) at 8:06 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Just got back from the show in toronto herd a new home theater speakers system.From Messina there w is http://www.messina-electronics.com WOW it was the best 1800$ speaker system I have ever herd.
Gar ( 169.207.192.145 ) at 7:29 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Gents how about the new recordable DVD by Panasonic?
I guess the question is will this thing copy DVD's or is there something in the unit that will prevent this or on the DVD's like Macroshitvision. Also it sounds like a decent progressive unit and that you can copy just about any format. Now the question is, is the big Devil Dog Recording/Movie industry going to put there paranoid hats on again? Example, Napster you make a huge issue about recording material, more free sites pop up....hmmmm make an issue out of recording hardware, I just see more people trying to record it. If they want Pay Per View on everything, I want no commericals. Simple, if they have commercials then it should be free.. Just an opinion, that allot of people share. Also how much is the Panasonic unit?
Curtis ( 206.170.7.89 ) at 7:19 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: Congratulations to all on your brand new son. Enjoy kids while they're little because in the blink of an eye they'll be out on their own.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 6:57 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Crestron Programming Article
Has anyone seen an article about programming a Crestron unit in a recent magazine? I saw it about two weeks ago at a Barnes and Noble store in New Orleans and thought to myself that I could read the article at leasure since I subscribed to the magazine in question. I have not been able to find it among HT, SGTH, S&V, Widescreen, or TAS.
Wild Bill ( 63.36.12.207 ) at 6:34 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: Congrats Cytotech!! That's the best news anyone can have. Good luck to you and your "new addition".
JBC ( 207.164.221.201 ) at 6:23 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Chris L: Are you going to hang the M&K's from the wall or put them onstands. The guy I am working with on programming the Crestron (which is another story in and of itself) has M&Ks with a THX approved perf screen. It is incredible how realistic it is to have voices "coming" from the screen.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.101 ) at 6:13 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
HT Beginnings
Hey guys! Been out of the loop for awhile as my parents were visiting from AZ and had my bedroom\computer room. The new room is coming along. I'm mainly just getting the building materials and tools that I'm going to need together. Then I can start framing...hopefully this weekend. I'll keep you posted on what's up and try to get some pictures going. Thanks for all the suggestions so far, they've been very helpful! It's funny some of the small details you forget (thanks WB!)when you take on a new project like this.
Tony C: Thanks for the X10 suggestion. I have the small firecracker module that controls one lamp and one appliance. I think it's one of the coolest things in my HT right now. I have every intention of automating the lights in the new room.
Wild Bill: Of course! Stupid me. My last HT room had a drop ceiling and the vibrating tiles were driving me nuts. I can't believe I was about to hang a ceiling in there. ::THUMP...THUMP:: <----me kicking myself.
Scott "popcorn": I don't know that I can hang recessed lighting in the soffit on the left wall as the heater duct will be right up against it. Great idea though...I'll have to see if there's a way around that one. As for the Star Wars idea...NEATO!! I'm not going to steal your idea though. I'll think of something.
JBC ( 207.164.221.201 ) at 5:56 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Cytotech: Congrats dude!!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:39 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: Best wishes to your family.
Ron H ( 63.26.184.224 ) at 5:10 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
surrounds
Tony C: Yes
Cytotech ( 38.37.100.47 ) at 4:53 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Thanks for all the well wishes, guys!
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 4:47 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: FELICIDADES on your new family member.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 4:45 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Myer Emco Sale
TO THE NO. VIRGINIA CROWD: Myer Emco, Bailey's Crossroads Store, is having a pre-sale on October 5 from 5 - 9 PM. They say it is for floor models, scratched and dented, and discontinued items.
Gar ( 169.207.192.243 ) at 3:55 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: Congrads!!!! First time father here going on 7 months and it sure does change the prospective on allot of things. In a good way of course!
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 3:02 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Cytotech: Congratulations! enjoy.
Cytotech ( 38.37.100.45 ) at 2:29 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Proud Papa!
Well, some of you may(or may not) have noticed my absence over the last few days. Our 2nd child, a son, was born Wednesday the 27th at 12:34 p.m. Mom and baby doing fine. Home now in fact. Connor Patrick weighed 7 pounds on the nose and was 20.25" long. APGAR was an 8/9. Check you guys later.
Gar ( 169.207.193.7 ) at 1:42 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
I have a P-5 Pre/Amp and the Matching W-5 Amp. Depending on what your driving this Amp is more then enough power. And actually in this Month Stereophile they are on the recommended list of componets and they mention
that this Amp works really well with Electrostatic speakers. Only reason I am selling these, is my High-End system is nothing more then a background music system right now, this stuff is way to expensive and nice for that application. The W-5 runs around 175Wpc, but when they tested it it was over 200wpc into 8ohms. http://www.simaudio.com/english/blkmoon.htm or try this page for there specs. http://www.simaudio.com/english/moonmain.htm
The W-5 Amp runs my Dynaudio speakers with ease, and these are difficult speakers to run. Hope this helps, anymore info just E-mail me.
Derb ( 216.228.137.51 ) at 1:20 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Amps
Gar: What is the model# of the amps that you have? Are they the Moon W10's ?
Gar ( 169.207.194.156 ) at 12:52 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Amps
Derb: No problem. The stuff I am selling is 6 months old with all Warr.
intact. 10 years, got this stuff directly from Sim. And the cost savings, well lets just say you will save a ton. garcom@execpc.com
Curtis ( 206.170.6.8 ) at 12:39 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Joe sixpack shopping carts
Joe: I KNEW you were gonna say that! Change that to Charles sixpack
Joe ( 205.188.199.59 ) at 12:25 PM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Joe sixpack shopping carts
Curtis,
Excellent suggestion, I will have to follow your directions and get a few sixpacks.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:30 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
surrounds
Ron H: So if my "In-Room response" is 85Hz - 25Hz, then these will work fine for my rears. Correct?
Curtis ( 206.170.6.8 ) at 11:25 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
GE DVD for $99
Fry's Electronics is running an ad today for refurbed players for $99 and a new (unknown brand) for $139 including "DST Surround Sound!!" This ought to fill a lot of Joe sixpack shopping carts.
Derb ( 216.228.137.50 ) at 10:29 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Sim Audio
JBC: I should have some lit in the mail. If I don't have a dealer around it may not be the one for me. For shits and grins I would gladly except a quote in "Mighty Green Back's" on the Moon Series W-10. I did call up Pass Labs they have no idea who "Best Of Deal" are. I didn't take the conversation any further than that. They did give me a lead on a used pair of X600's for $10,000 could be possible to widdle this number down. Still a little to mutch money then I'm looking ot spend.
Derb ( 216.228.137.50 ) at 10:17 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Amps
Gar: The amps I'm looking @ right now are: Bryston 7B ST, Aragon Palladium, Classe' CAM-350, and of the off chance that I can find some used equipment in Krell 250 M or Mc, Pass Labs X600, BAT VK 1000, and I asked for some lit on the Sim Audio equipment from your last recommendation. I'll keep you equipment in mind. Thanx
Joe ( 205.188.199.31 ) at 9:25 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Speaker enclousures
I am finally to the point of installing speakers. Seems like forever getting to this point. I was thinking I could use some Owens Corning sheet insulation to make boxes around them. It would provide a enclousure and its easy to work with. It would also keep the other insulation off the speakers. Any comments?
Joe ( 205.188.199.42 ) at 9:09 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Started the morning out with unemployed sex this should be a good day.
Joe ( 205.188.199.42 ) at 9:09 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
None of our business
Good point Kieran, is the GF alos moving. Maybe it will be Mrs, by then:)
Ron H ( 63.26.164.192 ) at 9:06 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Hey JBC.
JBC ( 207.164.221.59 ) at 8:10 AM EST Saturday, September 30, 2000
Good morning guys..... sure is quiet around here...
Gar ( 169.207.194.151 ) at 10:52 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
North by Northwest.
cai: Are you guys talking about 3 Days of the Condor, with Robert Redford? That is a great flick. Also the Marathon Man, with Dustin Hoffman is a great flick.
Gar ( 169.207.194.151 ) at 10:51 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Pioneer 37 DVD Player
Ron H: Timing is everything. I tried several times to get the Toshiba
5109 at a great cost savings, but everytime I tried they were out of stock.
This place I called to inquiry about buying the new Pioneer 37 Elite for the 3rd time and as we where talking UPS dropped off 4 of them.
cai ( 24.168.207.11 ) at 10:44 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
North by Northwest.
Kieran: I suggest you watch the unabridged version of the Days of the Condor movie. That is: Three Days of the Condor. The two day version will just leave you hanging and you will never guess the outcome.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.63 ) at 7:52 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
No experience with that unit. Being a good brand at a cheap price ... how negative could it be? Is the GF moving too? It seems the least your new employer could do ... not that it's any of our business.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 7:22 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
new dvd player
Since I'll be moving (and taking my Sony 7700 with me) I just bought a Pioneer DV-333 for my girlfriend. $225.00 at CostCo. Such a deal! Anybody have any experience with this player?
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 7:20 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
North by Northwest.
Tony C: VERY cool movie indeed. I purposly avoided finding out ANYTHING about the story line or plot. I went into knowing absolutely nothing about it, except for who starred, directed, etc. I must say, that's an excellent way to go into a great movie. 2 other movies I know next to nothing about but have been told to watch, are "2 days of the Condor" and "The French Connection". I know a little about TFC, but not much. I love watching movies with NO preconceptions at all.
Sometimes I wish I could I simply close my eyes and plug my ears during trailers... but mostly I can't resist. Plus all the hype these days of most movies ruins the plot for you. However... a lot of the classics from before my time are coming out on DVD, and I know very little about the plot. So, it's proving to be a fun new hobby... watching great older movies with a "clean slate" so to speak. Some movies the title gives away the basic premise: "The Great Escape" "Bridge on the River Kwai" "Guns of Navarrone"... as long as you know the setting you can figure out sort of what it's about. "North by Northwest" though... didn't reveal much at all!
Ron H ( 63.26.163.75 ) at 6:39 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Tony C: croosed=crossed
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 6:33 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Pioneer 37 DVD Player
Gar: Double Dog. I'm sorry I mentioned the player to you!!
Ron H ( 63.26.163.75 ) at 6:21 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Tony C: If you have the rears croosed over at 80 or 90 you should be ok.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.75 ) at 6:19 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Pioneer 37 DVD Player
Gar: You dog!! I can't wait for a review.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.63 ) at 6:04 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
DD vs. DTS
Kieran: You can tell it's Friday 'cause people are getting loopy. Funny parts in it though.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:26 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
TP
I read that thread earlier today (it's been a slow day at work), hilarious!
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 5:16 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
DD vs. DTS
Woops make that this thread. Same thread, just wrong page the first time.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.141 ) at 5:15 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
DD vs. DTS
Don't ask any questions, just click and read this thread over at HTF.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:14 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Speaking of cool movies, I watched Silverado last night.
It is by far my favorite Western and one of my altime favorites.
I was checking out the addition to the upstairs system.. That is a pair of front effect speakers connected to the Yamaha 2092. I had a couple of NHT Super Zeros lying around and hooked them up, but now I have some questions.
My rears in that room are mounted above the sweet spot, pointing directly down. They are small speakers I used when all I had was pro logic. Should I use the larger NHTs as the rears? My problem is that I don't think that I can mount them facing down with the bracket I have.
Gar ( 169.207.192.199 ) at 4:14 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Pioneer 37 DVD Player
Well I was on the phone inquiring about this player and low and behold, they had 3 come in as I was on the phone with this guy. One will be in my hands by next week, not too bad of a price at $675 shipped. I thought this was a very good price since there so new.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:11 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
TRVIA WINNER!
Kieran: RE: Brady house.
Close I agree, but really very very different. You recognize the open stair case, and the stone wall. After that, nothing close.
First time ever?? Pretty cool movie isn't it?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:09 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
unemployed
Joe: Think of all the time you'll have to work on the addition.
Don't worry, be happy.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.139 ) at 1:53 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
unemployed
Joe: Good luck to you. I'm sure you'll find something to your liking soon. Keep your chin up!
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 1:04 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
CBS HDTV
Curtis: Awesome news! I haven't seen the Pelican Brief yet, either. We may just have to watch that Saturday!
Kieran ( 12.13.238.139 ) at 1:03 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
TRVIA WINNER!
Curtis/All: Speaking of the Brady kids... I just watched (for the first time ever) Hitchcock's "North by Northwest". What a GREAT film! I thoroughly enjoyed it. Anyway, did you ever notice the layout of Van Damme's mountain house? I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that house became the Brady house about 15 years later. It sure LOOKED like the same interior anyway! Anybody know for sure?
Curtis ( 206.170.6.225 ) at 12:51 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
CBS HDTV
Panasonic has stepped in to deliver a nice chunk of CBS HD primetime programming. CBS has updated their site to show what's coming one week at a time. Best of all it's free - ok, after the hardware investment.
http://www.cbs.com/hdtv/
Curtis ( 206.170.6.225 ) at 12:38 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
TRVIA WINNER!
AVB: Aw shucks! That episode "Captain Jack" was to have been the pilot in '57. CBS was forced to reshoot the scene to be certain not only the whole loo wasn't shown, but to also make sure it wasn't shown in a bathroom.
American TV is goofy. Ever notice that 6 Brady kids shared the same bathroom that didn't have a toilet in it? All in the family used the flushing sound often as (yet another) Archie opinion.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:38 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
jobs
Joe, Kieran- good luck on the new jobs. I started my new job about 2 months ago and couldn't be happier. I ask myself why I kept doing something for 5 years that I started not enjoying after 4. Or maybe if was after 2 or...
AVB ( 64.41.32.145 ) at 12:15 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
TRVIA WINNER!
Curtis: You got it, Leave it to Beaver was the show and that was the episode. Send me your name and address and I'll get the screener out to you.
Kieran ( 12.13.238.137 ) at 12:04 PM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
unemployed
Joe: Join the club!!! Although, I'm not technically unemployed (I gave notice and my last day is this coming Thursday) I'll still be without a paycheck until the second week of November! (when my first paycheck from the new job comes). Good luck finding a new job (if you haven't already). And congrats on having the cajones to make such a gutsy move.
Joe ( 152.163.204.48 ) at 11:53 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
unemployed
Morning all.
Remember a few months back and me complaining about my job. Well as of 0950 this morning I quit. It looks like I will have a few weeks to hangout on the forum all day.
This is a wierd feeling.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.65 ) at 11:43 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
RonH, mic; Thanks for the quick response! I needed it as I'm ordering today! mic, that's where I spotted it! I've been looking for a 200 watt stereo amp, but this way I can up the power to a couple more channels.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.225 ) at 10:16 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
TRVIA REPOST!
AVB: Does part of a toilet count? If so the answer should be Leave it to Beaver when the Beav and Wally order a genuine live Florida aligator from their favorite comic book. What they got in the mail was a little thing a few inches long. They knew it would be found in their bedroom so they hid the gator in the tank of their toilet.
The censors were very upset and delayed airing it. They agreed to show the tank (upper part) of a toilet but not the whole thing.
AVB ( 64.41.32.195 ) at 9:07 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
TRVIA REPOST!
The first toilet ever seen on prime time television was on what show? Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
mic ( 166.68.134.163 ) at 8:49 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
BIG AL: I like them so much I bought a second, I ready for the future 10.1 :). Sunfire has great customer service. After 2 years I found my 1st amp's auto-on feature did not work with the balanced in's of my new surround processor balanced out's. I called and they said send it in for an upgrade, no charge. When I recieved it back it was too sensitive and would not turn off, they sent UPS to my house to pick it up, fixed and returned it within a week no charge. The second one is newer and is working fine. I don't like the binding posts, too shallow, the the banana plug doesn't go all the way in. Maybe I should call SF, they might replace them, hmmmm. check out www.tsto.com they have some B-stock for less $$
Ron H ( 63.23.243.162 ) at 8:47 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
JBC: Good Morning guy.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 8:27 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Good morning gang....
BYork ( 166.90.40.28 ) at 1:54 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
Scott "popcorn" - I haven't used IE in over a year...and it only took one time then to convince me to go back to Netscape.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.73 ) at 1:33 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
BIG AL: I have one and am quite happy with it. It runs cool (unless you are powering MLs) so it is great for a cabinet mount.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 1:05 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
any negative points on the Sunfire Cinema Grand amp?
Gar ( 205.156.192.21 ) at 12:31 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
10HT
Ron H : Not yet they where out of the Toshiba 5109s at the place you bought them at. Sold the Sony for $600, paid $700 for it so that wasn't too bad. I might get the new Pioneer or wait another month on the Sony unit, don't know yet.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.58 ) at 12:10 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
HT Beginnings
Chris L.: if I were you, I'd put a soffit around the whole room, drywall the center of the room (the sky ceiling suggested earlier is REALLY KOOOL! I've seen them before... On a side note, knowing you're a Star Wars freak like me, you could do a black drywall ceiling with either painted-on stars, or even "wheat lamps" dropped down as stars... then hang a framework like is shown behind the Emperor in Return of the Jedi... I've been wanting to do that myself)... Then, in-ceiling light fixtures in the soffit all the way around, pointing down, on one dimmer control... sconces on the wall on another dimmer control... and perhaps one other lighting type on a third dimmer (I've determined through thinking about room design that it's best to have three seperately dimmable lighting groups, so you can create many various moods)... Then, as mentioned before, you could run A/C ducts in the soffits, plus put 3" PVC conduit in the soffits (maybe right next to the wall) for fishing cable. be sure to have access panels at each corner, above the surround speaker locations (just drop the wire down the wall if you want), and at the component rack...
Boy, all I can say is I envy you!!! I'd love to be in your position right now.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.58 ) at 12:03 AM EST Friday, September 29, 2000
HTOC: The Lost Posts
BYork: did you try loading up the entire forum? forum.html? they are there... I don't know why you guys can't see them... Maybe you should quit using that Microsoft crap and get a REAL web browser.
AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 11:34 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
TRIVIA!
Tony C: Sorry Tony, it is not All In The Family.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.153.9 ) at 10:29 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HT Beginnings
Chris L.: I'd do a drywall ceiling if it is possible. Drop ceilings can be horrible when installed in a room with a subwoofer. Besides, drywall ceilings have a much cleaner look.
JBC ( 207.164.221.128 ) at 9:18 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Tony C: LOL!!!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:04 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HT Beginnings
Chris L.: If/when you get an FP, it will be easy to hide a remote screen between the joists.
YOu have two separate circuits as you say. So then there will be a third for lights and other room outlets, correct? I would put in the sconces and recessed lights. And I have a couple other suggestions for you.
(Switching to JBC mode)
1) Look into X10 controls for your lights. I recently installed four really cool switches that can handle up to 64 separate scenes. They are easy to program and work really well. The switches were their most expensive, $89 each, but worth it compared to other expesive installs.
2) I really wish that I would have run a 3/4" pipe through my floor from the side wall to behind the couch. AC, phone, coax, whatever could have been run through it. I think Ron H did it that way.
3) Plan as much as you can for the future. Make it easy to pull and replace wires. run conduit or wires to where you might install a FP system some day. Much easier to do it now than later.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.247 ) at 8:41 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Cool...I'm talking to myself. Again.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.247 ) at 8:40 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Chris L.:
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.247 ) at 8:36 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
How can you tell? I have six unopened slots on the electrical box. Is that it?
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.247 ) at 8:35 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Chris
Joe: Looks like I have 6.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.247 ) at 8:35 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
If you get the FP fever
Curtis\Wild Bill: A front projector would be awesome! I keep trying to tell myself that I can't afford one but every time I see one up close and personal, I tell myself I can't afford not to have one.
Concentrate Chris.....M&Ks...M&Ks...M&Ks.
Joe ( 205.188.192.23 ) at 8:33 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Chris
Do you have 2 open spaces in your service?
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.247 ) at 8:30 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HT Beginnings
Tony C: If I'm looking at the screen the joists run from left to right (or right to left) :). I will have a hollow soffit on the right hand ceiling but I'm also installing a drop ceiling so Joe's suggestions of lighting will come into play. I plan on both wall sconce lighting and recessed lighting...although one or the other would probably be enough.
I'm also going to run 2 dedicated circuits. One to the equipment rack which is going to built into the left wall, and one for the RPTV and subwoofer.
So far this is great fun!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:16 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HT Beginnings
Chris L.: I agree with Joe. If you build a hollow soffit, there are lots of possibilities. Which way do your joists run?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:10 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
TRIVIA!
AVB: All In The Family?
Wild Bill ( 63.36.239.100 ) at 7:50 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Soaking in the Hot Tub!
My hot tub has been out of commission for about 5 months (the summer months really don't matter because the nights are too damn warm) and I finally received my new cover and it is operational again. The low tonight should be in the high 40's and the water in the hot tub is about 101 degrees. It looks like I'll be soaking tonight.
Wild Bill ( 63.36.239.100 ) at 7:47 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Chris L.: If you are going to do both sides then I'd do the front too. JMHO, of course.
Joe ( 152.163.195.213 ) at 7:30 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Darian
Without looking at the plug in question i will take a stab.
First it is a 4 wire plug, yes most 250vac rated plugs are. I would suspect that you will only be using a 10/2 w ground. The 4th connection would be used for a second leg, hence the 250vac rating.
Most people use 30amp for a 220vac device, like a WATER HEATER
Joe ( 152.163.195.213 ) at 7:22 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Chris
Without looking at your drawing. If you run a soffit arounf the entire room your could use some indirect lighting. You could paint clouds on the roof and give it a sunrise sky look.
You could runa rope light around the perimiter. You could run you spekaer and projector wires in it. You could had cooling ducts into the front or down the sides.
AVB ( 64.41.32.175 ) at 6:20 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
TRIVIA!
The first toilet ever seen on prime time television was on what show? Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
Curtis ( 206.170.7.24 ) at 5:56 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
If you get the FP fever
Wild Bill: You may as well say when, not if, to someone putting together a dedicated HT room. We could submit the following to the AMA for new known fevers.
Finally Perfect
Forget Price
Feeling Proud
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.124 ) at 5:12 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HT Beginnings
Ooookay. After a quick sketch, I think I answered my own question.
HERE'S the pic.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.124 ) at 5:02 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Wild Bill: It's not on the front wall. It runs along the left wall for about 4 feet. If I frame it in, I'm going to run the soffit all the way from the front to the back of the room. My question was if I should run another soffit along the opposite wall so it looks uniform? I guess I should have explained it better. I'll make a better diagram.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.124 ) at 4:58 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
A small correction after going back down and looking at the duct again. It's only about 6 inches thick, 1.5 feet wide. I've edited the pic also.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.240.146 ) at 4:55 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Chris L.: Adding a soffit along the whole front wall will look the best IMHO. If I were you I'd make sure that it is framed for the possible mounting of a screen for a projector. That way, the support is there for the screen if you get the FPTV fever.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.57 ) at 4:42 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
I should also point out that the duct is against the wall where the screen will sit and runs about 4 feet along the left wall. I was thinking of dry walling around the duct but running it the length of the wall.
Hdlouie ( 209.178.153.13 ) at 4:40 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
ZZAAP
Darian: enlighten me on this cord plug L14-30, I show it as a 4-wire device. A 120V should have a hot neutral and ground(three wire).
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.57 ) at 4:40 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HT Beginnings
Afternoon all! I just started on the basement today by pulling down all the old insulation. The final room should be approx 11' x 25'. Not too bad I guess. There's one thing though. On the left hand side of the ceiling is a small length of heating duct. It's about 1.5' square and is snugged up in the corner. I'm going to drywall around it of course but my question is, should I copy that same extrusion on the other side of the room to make it look uniform? Would there be any problems with the sound if I did\didn't?
HERE'S a quick drawing to give you a better idea.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.24 ) at 3:34 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
DVD player glitches
Wild Bill: For the record my S-7000 has problems with that scene.
Curtis ( 206.170.7.24 ) at 3:33 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
JBC: I'm far too classy to say something like better you than me (you'll recall I gave serious consideration to buying it)! Stick with it and you'll be a happy camper. Imagine how you would feel if you had paid list price for the thing?
Wild Bill ( 63.36.239.127 ) at 3:20 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
DVD player glitches
Jeff S.: The Armageddon SE problems occur during Bruce Willis' golf swing in the opening scenes. I agree that your DVD player is an excellent one but if it is glitch free it may be the first model to be glitch free. Regards.
Ron H ( 207.223.85.251 ) at 2:32 PM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Is anyone out there??
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 11:40 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HTOC: The Lost Posts
Scott "popcorn":
I gotta agree with Kieran that posts were lost. I remember serveral others after my last post that seem to have vanished. (shrug). Go figure....
Jeff S. ( 198.133.22.70 ) at 10:50 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
DVD player glitches
Wild Bill: I have Armageddon SE. Have not seen any problems there. What should I look for? Don't have The Abyss on DVD because I owned the original Abyss on LD in surround, and then upgraded to the DD version on LD. No need to upgrade again. My LD player is top notch and is excellent with DD LD's. I have the deluxe version of T2 on DVD, so I didn't get the Ultimate version since I don't have EX.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 10:14 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Ron H: Aaaaaaaaah, the sound of reason. LOL, I knew there was a good reason for hanging out here.
Ron H ( 63.23.243.177 ) at 10:13 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
10HT
Gar:Have you ordersd a progressive scan player yet?
Ron H ( 63.23.243.177 ) at 10:11 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
JBC: we all have BR at one time or another. The more the piece cost the stonger the BR is. I say go for it. After it is all set up the BR will fade. The enjoyment and pride of ownership will overcome the buyers remorse.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:03 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Bill: I figured that was ment for me.
Gar ( 169.207.194.40 ) at 9:58 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
10HT
Bill, I used my Sony S-7700, and the picture looks amazing on DVD. Mind blowing to me, and I have seen some really good CRT in my day. So that being said since the Sony 10HT doesn't do 3:2 pull down it sure does a good job of internal scaling, I noticed very little artifacts on the Sony unit, but then again I was too busy watching the movie. So a DVDO or a good Progressive scan unit should make this projector SING! Oh Joy, happy happy
Joy!!! Joy!!! Now I really can't wait.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.240.125 ) at 9:24 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Last post was a reply to Darian. I'm not talking to myself!
Wild Bill ( 63.20.240.125 ) at 9:13 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Wild Bill: I did some research. The internal scaler in the 10HT does NOT do 3:2 pulldown. Artifacts are unavoidable.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.240.125 ) at 9:12 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HTPC
Jeff S.: Then that would be the one in a lillion! LOL! Have you tried Armageddon SE, The Abyss, TS The Ultimate Edition. There are many others but these are some of the most recent that have caused problems.
JBC ( 207.164.221.61 ) at 9:03 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Good morning gang!! Well, I met with the Crestron programmer yesterday and yiiiiiiiiiikes!! The functionality is incredible but the compexity -- no wonder these guys charge an arm and a leg. I am having a good amount of buyers remorse as geeting to the "WOW" factor will be costly, timely (with me programming), and/or both. I am biiiiiiig trouble. Any thoughts?
Derb: Two quick things to add to your thread:
a) Why not call PASS or Krell and ask about the dealer without asking about price?
b) Remember... SimAudio is also Canadian. Want me to get some "funny money" prices for you?
Ron H ( 63.26.163.23 ) at 8:32 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Gar: I have not tried the 10HT a non progressive scan DVD player and a scaler/doubler.
Jeff S. ( 198.133.22.70 ) at 6:27 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HTPC
Wild Bill: Hmmmmm. "BTW, as you know,there is currently NO DVD player that plays EVERY DVD flawlessly". A few years ago members of this forum were reporting problems their players had with certain DVD titles. There was one player that never seemed to have any problems (at least reported). That was the Sony S7000. So, I bought one. I now have over 200 DVD's and I can say that I have not had a problem with any of them. I suppose that doesn't mean that there might be one somewhere that won't play correctly, but I'm very satisfied with the Sony.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.239 ) at 5:02 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Darian: The 10HT's scaler *may* do 3:2 pulldown (I'm not sure) but the fact that it is progressive scan does not mean that it implements 3:2 pulldown.
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.239 ) at 4:59 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HTPC
Scott "popcorn": Still waiting for BeOS to support DVD, eh? I've had my HTPC up and running since January. Like, I said, I'll take NOW. BTW, as you know, there is currently NO DVD player that plays EVERY DVD flawlessly. Until the DVD standards are tightened up and strictly adhered to there will be "rogue" DVDs that give certain players trouble. I just can't think of any that my HTPC can't handle at this time.
Gar ( 169.207.194.125 ) at 2:49 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Joesph Audio Speakers
AKA etc...... Well I must say, these are the best Monitor speakers I have heard to date, glad I bought a pair finally. I still am a huge fan of Dynaudio, but just became a huge fan of JA, the moment I turned on the Amp.
These speakers sing with sonic qualities you don't see in most speakers costing 10X as much. I have them on a modest system, but I am tempted soon to stick them on the Sim gear upstairs and give them a go.
Gar ( 169.207.194.125 ) at 2:41 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Darian: Does it do a better job, than the Sony's internal converter?
I heard the Sonys converter is just as good, I could be wrong. Ron could tell us, I think he used to have or still does have one. I heard that some of the Progressive scan DVD players(good ones) actually looked just as good if not better than using a DVDO and a non-Progressive scan DVD player. But then again I haven't seen any side by side comparisons. Ron H, care for any
input on this issue? Thanks
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:08 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
ZAAPP
The Cinepro PowerPro 30 is 120V 30 amp. The Plug that connects it is a L14-30. I need to run the line and install the receptical for this plug.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:01 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Kieran:
Darian: It makes sense that using the DVDO iScan between the 7700 and the 10HT would have "better 3:2 pull down" (for anamorphic dvds)... esepcially since the 7700 doesn't do 3:2 pull down at all! (It's not a progressive dvd player.)
Are you wiseassing me again!!! Kieran, the 10 HT is a progressive scan device. Anything interlaced fed to the 10HT must be converted to display. I was merely pointing out that the DVDO does a better job then the internal converter.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.41 ) at 12:30 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HTOC: The Lost Posts
Kieran: I see no lost posts... 3:38 PST is post number 12116... the last post on the current forum is 4:24 PST, post number 12117. (use "View source" to see the post numbers)... You must be having problems with your browser not loading the full page, or you're not using the "show all posts" option or something to that effect...
Now, I can see where you might get confused if you're basing it solely on time, because when an archive takes place, it leaves 25 posts on the forum, and archives the rest... so the date of the archive happens 25 posts later than the first post shown in the archive.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.41 ) at 12:20 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HTOC: The Lost Posts
Kieran: Checking into it now...
Gar ( 169.207.194.155 ) at 12:20 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Derb
If your using Electrostats which I think you are, the Sim gear works even better on those types of speakers. Stereophile just put Sim Audio on there Recommended componets list for the 3rd year in a row, and they deserve it.
Gar ( 169.207.194.155 ) at 12:15 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Amps(revised)
Doh! I see it. Pass Labs and Krell.... I love Pass Labs stuff, but then again, I have always been a fan of Nelson Pass. Never liked Krell that much though. What are you looking for? If you look on Audiogon and Audio review
I am selling my High-End system. Since I had a baby boy, I haven't had time for any critical listening. This stuff is 6 months old and I still have 9 1/2 years left on Warr. And to be honest with you it sounds better then Pass, and way better then Krell. It be Sim Audio, and Dynaudio just switched a year ago in there testing Labs, they used to use Krell, not it is Sim because it less expensive(somewhat) and much better sounding. JMHOP.
Selling Amp and Matching Pre/Amp, with full Warr. This system is more or less being used for background music..... Yikes!!!!! A waste of good equipment. garcom@execpc.com or try http://www.simaudio.com/ Look under Moon series by Sim it is there new stuff.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.41 ) at 12:12 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Ron H : a 1280 by 1024 DLP projector can shop 720p in its full glory, but not 1080i. I believe some 1280 by 1024 DLPs exist. Of course, the mother of all DLPs, the 1920 by 1080 can show 1080p... I'd love one of these babies, but they're the ones that START at $60k...
Gar ( 169.207.194.155 ) at 12:11 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Doh! I see it. Pass Labs and Krell.... I love Pass Labs stuff, but then again, I have always been a fan of Nelson Pass. Never liked Krell that much though. What are you looking for? If you look on Audiogon and Audio review
I am selling my High-End system. Since I had a baby boy, I haven't had time for any critical listening. This stuff is 6 months old and I still have 9 1/2 years left on Warr. And to be honest with you it sound better then Pass, and way better then Krell. It be Sim Audio, and Dynaudio just switched a year ago in there testing Labs, they used to use Krell, not it is Sim because it less expensive(somewhat) and much better sounding. JMHOP.
Selling Amp and Matching Pre/Amp, with full Warr. This system is more or less being used for background music..... Yikes!!!!! A waste of good equipment. garcom@execpc.com
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.41 ) at 12:10 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
HTPC
Wild Bill: Well, I'm sure your HTPC is flawless in its perfromance, It has to be with Windows! hah hah.... but with my luck I'd have to reboot the damn thing halfway through every movie! I'm waiting for BeOS to support DVD. It's stable, reliable, faster than winblows, and I could stripe a couple of hard discs to copy theatrical trailers to, and play from hard disc.
Gar ( 169.207.194.155 ) at 12:06 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Amps
Derb:That's because Manufactuers want to price fix, well some do. In order for some Ma and Pa shops to stay competitive they need to lower pricing on any item, even if there not a dealer, they might have contacts with people who are or Wholesalers. What's the name of the place again?
You could call the Manufactuer and ask them if the item will be covered under the Warr. if you have a receipt and send in the Warr. Card.
Derb ( 199.174.7.48 ) at 9:42 PM EST Wednesday, September 27, 2000
Amps
Gar: The dealer asked that I not contact the manufacture or give out the pricing. It can get him in hot water. Or get me screwed out my cash; one or the other. It doesn't seem right to me.
Ron H: I think the risk is not worth it. Unless I can convience my brother to make a road trip to LA and check him out.
Derb ( 199.174.7.48 ) at 9:38 PM EST Wednesday, September 27, 2000
Amps
AVB: Pass Labs, Krell
Ron H ( 63.26.185.78 ) at 9:37 PM EST Wednesday, September 27, 2000
Tony C you have mail.
Gar ( 169.207.194.175 ) at 9:34 PM EST Wednesday, September 27, 2000
Amps
Derb: There are a ton of people out there like that. Liquidators buy up Hi-Fi shops and then distribute all sorts of stuff all over the place.
Most Manuafactuers with honor a Warr. Card if it is filled out, and bought at a non-authorized dealer. But I would check with them first. I bought some Hafler Amps from HCM, and on there website they state a 3 year Warr. on B-stock Amps, and since there not a dealer I called Hafler and the Warr.
Will be honored for 3 years.
AVB ( 64.41.33.133 ) at 9:26 PM EST Wednesday, September 27, 2000
Amps
Derb: I've bought some gray market in my time, both electronics and other consumer goods but never anything that had to be custon made. Just what are you looking at?
Ron H ( 63.26.185.52 ) at 9:10 PM EST Wednesday, Septembe