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Curtis ( 206.170.6.41 ) at 11:25 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Sampo @ Fry's for $2,499

This must be the RMA reject pile. Buyer beware, as always with Fry's.
Cytotech ( 12.74.88.17 ) at 10:28 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Thisa & Thata

KPD: Thanks for your comments! It's nice to get a GOOD professional's viewpoint.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:26 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Thisa & Thata

KPD: Thanks for the response. Two quick follow ups:

1. Am I correct to understand that the only way to get tru HDTV, as discussed by Joe Kane in the aforementioned thread, is to get a CRT front projector? If this is correct, what specs should one be looking for?

2. How do DLPs and LCDs factor into this discussion?
KPD ( 64.111.10.97 ) at 9:34 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Thisa & Thata

JBC: Part 2: As far as what a calibration is and cost, I tell the person exactly what I'll do on their set prior to taking the job, I answer all their questions and offer input when necessary. I think it's imperative that the person understands what they are getting beforehand. As far as "Mr. ISF", it may have been that he was not clear and then his comments and practices were questioned or scorned. As far as Mike TLV goes, I question why he would shim up a lens without knowing what the root cause of the focus problem was. The lenses and crt fixtures are designed with a certain planarization, this is fixed and the mating faces are bolted together. This set does not allow for Scheimflug type adjustments for a reason, it's designed and built that way. Cocking the lens forces you to electrically throw off the raster position and convergence adjustment. Depending on how much, this could contribute to an undesired level of drift or a reliability problem over time. Also, while the color temp may have been off from "mr ISF", as soon as you change focus, and on consumer sets, brightness and contrast, the gray scale will change quite dramatically in some cases. I've seen a 3k shift on some sets when brightness and contrast are changed. These sets don't track well with varying levels of contrast and brightness settings. This all has to be taken into account when doing grey scale, they interact tremendously.
KPD ( 64.111.10.97 ) at 9:20 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Thisa & Thata

JBC: Good Morning! I just checked out that thread everyone's been talking about. Thanks Wild Bill for the positive input in that thread. I have a lot of question or opinion on both sides. Some I won't share here because of potential issues. First I'd just like to say that while I know Joe Kane did not gain any new friends in that thread, I understand where he is coming from. With the dawn of HD and better scalers, higher resolution, etc. the current rear projection sets are really no better designed than before and are expected to do the duty of something on a better platform. Every time I calibrate, or tweak, a rear projection set, I think to myself several things. Why don't they incorporate better focusing? Why are the convergence and geometry algorithyms lacking so much? Why is the gray scale so difficult to dial in on most of these things? Front projectors are easier, for the most part, to get all or most of these parameters dialed in with some level of perfection. The answer to all of these is cost. If we look around, the sets keep getting cheaper and cheaper, and everybody expects that to happen. The biggest reason these sets look better is because of improved scaling technology at low cost. The chassis have also been trimmed down with the increased use of IC's, integrating several functions in just a few IC's. I think his point is, and think where it's coming from, is that these sets aren't really up to the task for which they are called. When you've seen an HD signal on a properly set up monitor that is capable of displaying it, it's awesome!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:12 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Thisa & Thata

Ron H: I am sure you were up late last night playing with the new speakers. Now that they have had a good 10 hours of play what are your thoughts?

ISF Certification: What are people's views wrt the HTF thread. Particulalry some of the "fringe" adjustments made by Michael TLV. LKP, Duanae and others... where are you on this?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:10 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Cinepro on AVS

AVB: One of my questions actually expands on one of yours. I look forward to reading his responses.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:26 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Cinepro on AVS

AVB I am on my there now. I too will be easy, at least initially.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.181 ) at 12:44 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Star Wars Geeks

Gar: It's windblows media... they only upgrade their codec every three days... (one day sooner than Apple upgrades their quicktime codecs...) I prefer to stick with what works all the time. MPEG.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.181 ) at 12:42 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001

Chris L.: Ask and ye shall receive
Gar ( 169.207.194.52 ) at 12:35 AM EST Sunday, April 22, 2001
Star Wars Geeks

Chris L.: Cool sound, but I could get a picture? Hmmmm don't now why unless I have an older version of something.....
AVB ( 64.41.32.120 ) at 11:42 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Cinepro on AVS

JBC: I'm surprised not to see any questions from you. I just hit him with 4 easy ones. No sense making it too hard on Eric.
AVB ( 64.41.32.119 ) at 10:41 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

TonyC, Gar: Donations received, thanks!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:06 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

WildBill: Welcome back.

Curtis: if you are serious I have a boat load of airmile points and a trip to San Francisco anytimne after May 11th works. Perhaps you, Kieran and I could do it. I am half Kieran's height but can have pretty strong arms and back.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.166 ) at 9:44 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
I'm back!

Hey all, I am back from a relaxing week in the Caribbean sun. Tanned and rested, I hope my fresh outlook makes it past Monday! LOL

Joe: Big congrats. Enjoy parenthood. It's great.

All others who made purchases and/or had birthdays or other important events. Congrats to all of you too.

BTW, I did manage to score a 5 pack (with the Cuban government seal) of No. 2 Romeo y Juliette cigars for $35 in Playa del Carmen. I had one on Thursday night. What a sweet cigar.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.82 ) at 9:36 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

AVB: I suppose I could round up 4 guys. It's much easier to just complain about the situation though.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.128 ) at 8:39 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Star Wars Geeks

Check out this amazing fan film with one of the most realistic lightsaber duels I've ever seen. It's called Duality. Simply incredible. And don't quit watching until it's completely over. Boy is he pissed!
http://windowsmedia.com/mediaguide/default.asp?Page=0
Ron H ( 63.39.148.252 ) at 8:33 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

AVB I was thinking of you when I posted about having tall speakers. I know you have some monsters.
JBC Yes I ment Ascents. I am not quite sure where my head was at. I had just spoke to the pool guy and am preparing for the worst on the heater. The other items were not major fixes. I guess it had me pre-occupied.

As far as the Cinepro goes it seems to handles these better than the SL3's.
When setting my levels I had to drop then down 3 dbs. That is quite a lot of difference. I do not think it really matters as I do not think there is a speaker that will bring the Cinepro to its knees.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.128 ) at 7:28 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

AVB: "You don't know 4 guys who can help you get that thing up?
Sounds like yet another memorable quote to me. LOL!
BAGMAN ( 207.30.191.226 ) at 6:37 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Middle Aged Guys

Footnote: Foutunatly, none of his female audience showed him their tits!!!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:31 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

Ron H: I am thrilled that the speakers sound so good. I assume that you mean "Ascents" rather than "Scenarios". Also, how is the Cinepro handling the new power demands?

AVB You have mail.

Cinepro Owners: For those interested, Eric ABraham will be the special guest over at AVS tomorrow. Should be interesting.
BAGMAN ( 207.30.191.226 ) at 6:31 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Middle Aged Guys

Hey All: We just saw Dr. Hook (Ray Sawyer - real name, Cover of the Rolling Stone, big hit) for a buck at the Punta Gorda street fesival. He is now 64 years old and put on a very good show. I was never a big fan but came away impressed. Very tight show with a lot of audience parcipitation.
AVB ( 64.41.32.175 ) at 5:05 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Martin Logans

Ron H: I agree that towers can make music unlike any "bookshelf" speaker. Mine are almost as tall as I am.
Ron H ( 63.59.196.215 ) at 4:51 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Martin Logans

The Scenero's and Scripts arrived about 10:30 AM. Untill I change my racks in the rear of the room I need to hold off on mounting the Scripts. I also need to move/add a outlet about 36" up the wall. I have some in the right locations just too low.

My initial impresions of the Sceneros are:

1. Top end is a little sweeter
2. Bass is much stronger. I turned my sub which is crossed over at 40hz almost all the way off. I still needed to turn the bass switch on the rear to -3db.
3. Bass crossover seems to be a better match
4. The music seems to have more height and depth. When you have speakers over 5 feet tall, height of the sound is noticable.
5. Placement is just as critical to increase the sweet spot but not as much so for the bass response.
6. A little more three demensional which is not a week spot whith MLs already. At times I had to check the processor to be sure I was in stereo mode and not music logic which uses all 7 speakers.

All in all I feel they were worth the investment. A noticable improvement in sound, I recieved full value for the SL3's in trade and now I have a current product vs a discontinued one.


7. If I had to come up with a amount of improvement over the SL3's I would say about 20 to 25%.
AVB ( 64.41.32.117 ) at 4:48 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

JBC: You have mail.

A little slow here today.

Curtis: You don't know 4 guys who can help you get that thing up? As for the other problems try to find a service manual and give it a shot yourself until the pros show up.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:18 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

Curtis: Just a suggestion but why not get another qualified person to mount and start the adjustment process so that you can enjoy it while waiting for the master to getto you? At least this way you will derive some use and enjoyment.somelse
Gar ( 169.207.192.235 ) at 1:18 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

That be "Needs"
Gar ( 169.207.192.235 ) at 1:18 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
the Ampro

Curtis: Sell it for the same price you paid and say it need convergence work...
Curtis ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 12:58 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
the Ampro

Gar: Yes the Shampoo looks great but it's kinda small for watching movies. Oh well, I can always sell the FP for parts for > I paid if it's hopeless. It's too late to make a claim with the movers & I'm not certain that it wasn't in the same condition when it left AL The movers waived the charges for screwing up the pickup several times. ARGH!
Gar ( 169.207.192.235 ) at 12:37 PM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
the Ampro

Curtis: Sorry to here that, at least the Sampo looks good. I would try to collect some cash because it sounds like the delivery people royally screwed it up... Where is Duane when you need him.... Also give kpd a call he should be able to help.
Curtis ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 11:56 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
the Ampro

I'm getting very frustrated attempting to get this FP to work properly. It's currently table mounted and woefully out of adjustment in geometry, convergence and who knows what else. It's also in the way sitting where it is.

The local dude who has me on his waitlist is so swamped that I'm still a month away from the permanent installation. I now have a new respect for simple FP designs such as the Sony 10HT. Anyone care to trade with me? At least I didn't go out and buy the screen and video processor yet.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 11:47 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Sopranos

JBC: I was joking with ya
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:42 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

AVB: You have mail.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:42 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Sopranos

CuRTis: The tapes will be made available for free to all HTOC members provided they find their way back to me.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 11:40 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

JBC: (in best Tony voice) Spoken like a real stand-up guy. Always remember the family comes first! Now in the event that you were to, say "rent out" your tapes, and not share your profits with certain individuals who deserve their cut ... then my friend, we have a big problem.
Gar ( 169.207.192.235 ) at 11:36 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Joe glad to here she is doing well.. Put in many sleepless nights driving back and forth to the hospital and overnights when our Guy was born. All worth it......
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:21 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Sopranos

Joe: I have the last four episodes of season two and all of season three (at least those to date) on VHS. I can make it available once my brother-in-law finishes with it.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 10:57 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

... FYI there are 13 episodes per season and 8 have already aired. You may want to wait for it to restart.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 10:40 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Sopranos

T-Man: The series sucks you in doesn't it? I'm sure I heard somewhere that there will be a complete 2nd season DVD set, yet I can't locate a release date. HBO already reran the 2nd so don't expect to see it there for a while. #3 will be reran later this year.

I would just jump right in the current series (esp. if you can see it in HD)even though you won't recognize Meadow and major roles have been eliminated/ new ones introduced.
Joe ( 64.12.104.54 ) at 9:58 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

Morning all,

Thank you for the well wishes.
T-Man ( 24.48.225.13 ) at 9:27 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
Sopranos

Morning all: I received the Sopranos first season DVD as a gift recently. I hadn't seen the show yet but was anxious to start from the ground up. Needless to say my wife and I are enjoying it thoroughly. The question now is, once we're done with the first season what do we do? Just jump into the tail end of the third season? Wait for possible reruns of the second season? Yikes! Has anyone heard any speculation as to the second season on DVD? I know the first one has sold very well.

I'd better go eat some pasta and drink some Chianti.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:38 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
PSA Faroudja DVP 2200

6 months old DVP 2200,with warranty from Faroudja with box, for sale.List
$7995. Asking $3800 917 6011821
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:32 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

Ron H: Also for those with little kids near by (i.e. Joe in a few years), I found a place that sells them used for cheap. We paid US$175 for the whol thing and it is in mint condition. New they go for near US$1,000!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:31 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

Ron H: My highlight of the day will be my nephew. Beth and I bought him an early birthday present. We got one of those battery powered 1/4 scale cars. It is incredible -- two seater with a trailer, seat belts, mirrors, headlights, two forward speeds, one reverse speed, gas pedal, car dorrs, etc. I just hope the little guy can handle it (i.e. is coordinated enough to drive it). I also told my brother-in-law tobring running shoes. Something tells me he is going to have one hell of a work out!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:26 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

AVB: Can you put me in line?
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 8:18 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
pool

Ron H: what now, you put'in ML's in your pool
AVB ( 64.41.32.13 ) at 7:59 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
PSIII news

JBC: Got a line on 4! PP20/PSIII combos from a studio ($5500). They want to sell them as a total package and I am 2nd in line if they can't sell the package. If they don't sell as a package they said they would sell them as seperate combos for $1500 a set. I should know by the end of the day.
Ron H ( 63.59.201.5 ) at 7:01 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

JBC: I am afraid it will be a good news/bad news day. This morning I have the speakers being delivered and the pool technician arriving. I do not think I need to explain which one is the bad and which one is the good.
Ron H ( 63.59.201.5 ) at 6:59 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

JBC: Thanks and I will keep you updated. More tyhan likely I will not mount the Scripts untill I pick up the new cabinet for my equipment.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:54 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

Good morning evryone.

Ron H: Have a great day with your new speakers. Drop us a libe with your initial impressions, as well as how you mounted the rear Scripts.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.24 ) at 3:22 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001
YAAAWWN... slow!

Yep. Well, done w/ laundry... time for bed.
c-yall...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.211 ) at 2:26 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

Kieran: extremely slow.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.31 ) at 1:40 AM EST Saturday, April 21, 2001

wow slow night...
Ron H ( 63.39.153.161 ) at 11:05 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
New DVD's

Chris L.: Both my wife and I enjoyed Bone Collector. The wife is having a slumber/pool/HT party next Saturday when I am in Florida and the Bone collector was a movie the ladies wanted to watch. I have only watched a few bits of Chicken run when I was doing the demo for the ML Scripts. The picture quality looked great with a very agressive sounding soundtrack.

I have watched the 6th Day before and decided it was worth another look see. I was fortunete to end up with a $100 gift certificate for Amazon.com so I had to spend it on something.
Ron H ( 63.39.153.161 ) at 10:58 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
New DVD's

Chris L.: Space Cowboys??? Well the best I can say is it is sort of cute. It does have some deep bass in spots with a fair to good picture quality, not much use of surrounds as I would have expected.The wife/girlfriend and family will enjoy it.
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.78 ) at 10:54 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Here's wishing you and your new addition the best! Congratulations!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.230 ) at 8:55 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

What? we don't have a frowny cry face?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.230 ) at 8:55 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
OT- computers

WOOO! I got a package today!!! (no, it wasn't from CuRTis :'( ) But it was almost as good. BeOS R5 Pro Edition and GoBe Productive 2.0.1. I figured since they dropped their pricing, and had a special (buy both for a total of $59.95!!!), I should bite the bullet and get them. I've been wanting to buy GoBe Productive for a long time. Gee, I guess that means I'll use Windblows even less, since now I have an office suite for BeOS that does word processing (MS Word read and write), spreadsheet (MS Excel read and write), graphics, image manipulation, and presentation...
CuRTis ( 64.170.154.219 ) at 8:29 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Dalhquist

Derb: COme to think of it, they Dahlquists I owned were heavily modified. I'll see if I can track down the original owner to explain what was in them. Sounded sweet so long as you didn't stray 6" from the sweet spot.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.2 ) at 8:06 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
New DVD's

Ron H: I liked The Bone Collector alot, but not quite enough to buy it. Of course I only saw it on DirecTV PPV and in P&S so YMMV.
I also really enjoyed Chicken Run..enough to buy it. The other two I haven't had a chance to see yet. Let us know what you think of Space Cowboys.
Derb ( 199.174.5.46 ) at 7:47 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Dalhquist

Rick MTB, Cai, Curtis: I didn't know Dalhquist had an electrostaic. Maybe this is why I liked the Martin-Logans so much after I had the DQ30i's. And like Rick the Vandersteens & Thiel where on the short list, both using the time alignment sloped panel. Odd how we all seam to gravitate to the same speaker type. Maybe it says something for the individual, well in my case maybe not
Derb ( 199.174.5.46 ) at 7:43 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Ron Logan

Ron H: Hollow Cow !!! Ron Logan, I mean Martin Logan showroom or what. This could be very interesting. If I only had a bigger house I would show you!!
Congrats on the new speakers. I need to spend some serious time with my placement and saving some of the set-ups in the pre-pro. It will be great to have a referance at Ron's Theater Of Electrostatics
Derb ( 199.174.5.46 ) at 7:35 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Congrats

Joe: Congrats on the ankle bitter, curtain climber, rug rat, beer getter. No really best of luck
CuRTis ( 64.170.153.33 ) at 7:28 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Image size calculator

AVB: Tks for the pointer. It's exactly what I needed to show a friend exactly how my tiny 34" 16:9 shows more information than a 36" 4:3
CuRTis ( 64.170.153.33 ) at 7:25 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Kieran: I'm not surprised by Kane's remarks at all. You no doubt read that he split from ISF years ago and spend a lot of time TRYING to convince RP manufacturers (notably Toshiba) of the best way to build a RP. If you ever saw the FP systems that he shows at the trades you would know that he spares little expense in the never ending attempt to reach the holy video grail. Or at least he talks his clients and partners into parting with the cash.

Yes the top-end stuff looks fantastic when done right. Is that picture quality worth six figures to most consumers? Of course not. Joe is frustrated that manufacturers won't begin with the best grade projector possible and thinks that everything else done to make an RP look good after that decision is hopeless.

He sure knows how to piss people off though, doesn't he?
Ron H ( 63.39.155.189 ) at 7:07 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
New DVD's

I got a few DVD's in the mail today to add to the collection. The new additions are:

The Bone Collector
The 6TH Day
Chicken Run
Space Cowboys
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 6:49 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

That is some thread!
AVB ( 64.41.32.232 ) at 6:46 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Image size calculator

I ran across this little site and thought others may find it interesting/useful.
http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi
AVB ( 64.41.32.232 ) at 6:37 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Congrats! With all those sleepless nights ahead just think how much DVD watching you'll be able to do!
johnbr ( 24.112.158.247 ) at 6:37 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Hi all hope you all have a good weeked.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:49 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Kieran: Thanks. I am printing the thread -- it is 63 pages long!! Yikes!!
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 5:38 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Did somebody mention tubes!?!

Scott: I disagree with your statement that "soiled state" (as we tube heads call them) components don't break in over time.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 5:27 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Kieran: I don't think you'll see any further posts on this thread. When things got hot the forum administrator locked the thread, then later re-opened it to allow the ISF biggies to make their comments. Then (and I'm only speculating here) the forum got shut down for "maintenance" for several days which IMO was cool-down time.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 5:17 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

JBC: Winston already did.... (see his post a few before mine) but HERE it is again.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.44 ) at 5:12 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

BIG AL: I'm not taking it as an argument... I'm taking it as a discussion. I wish someone here that has more experience with tube gear would chime in.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.44 ) at 5:11 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

BIG AL: But the expansion and contraction of any electrical device (ignoring the glass-encapsulated types) doesn't "seat" or change the expansion and contraction properties over time. solid state expands and contracts with heat the same on day 584 as it did on day 1. I'm not a tube expert, so I can't tell you WHAT occurs for tube break-in, but I can tell you that they do have a break-in time, whereas solid state does not.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:07 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Kieran: Can you post the URL for the thread please.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 5:02 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Winston aka the Spleen: Wow, what a thread, Guy Kuo, Joe Kane, Joel Silver, Jim Burns... a veritable who's-who of the video industry. Well worth a read, folks.

BTW, I too am very surprised by Joe Kane's comments. I wonder if he'll post again, explaining or clarifying what he said?
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 4:08 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Scott; Not arguing here, just discussing. I've always been curious about these 2 views, so I'm playing devil's advocate to pick your brain.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:07 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Congratulations Papa.
I love the name! I hope mom and baby come home soon.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 4:06 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Scott pop; That could be misconstrued. I mean the expansion and contraction of any electrical device, could cause unforseen changes, that in turn affect outcome, whether heard or not.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 4:04 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Scott pop; How do you know?

JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 3:29 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
DVD Profiler

For those interested, there is an updated version now available.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 3:13 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Lexicon

Thanks for the complements on my letter. I will let know if anything transpires.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 3:02 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

For those who may have missed it, there's a very interesting thread on the Home Theater Forum regarding ISF calibration at:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=703dd0c32452ab2931ff3710b9c3b516&threadid=12734

The thread covers a very touchy issue about ISF calibration that I have ranted about in the past.... basically that anyone with $750 admission can sit in on the two day course and become ISF certified. What isn't generally known is that there is about 10 minutes of hands-on calibration training at these seminars, so if you don't know monitor calibration going in you're probably not going to know it coming out. Some interesting comments by Joe Kane, Joel Silver and Kevin Miller near the end of the thread.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.6 ) at 2:58 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
JBC

That was an incredibly well done and tastefull letter. It only further highlights the loss to SMR. I hope you return. I don't think this issue has escaped the notice of the administration team.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.6 ) at 2:56 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Joe

Congrats and best wishes for good health for the whole new family
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:52 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Curtis: Thanks again for the e-mail, you made my day! If there's anything I can do to return the favor, just let me know!
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:50 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Morning everyone.
Ron H ( 209.223.62.25 ) at 2:37 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
SMR Forum

JBC: Very nice letter.
Ron H ( 209.223.62.25 ) at 2:18 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Congrats on the new HT member.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.44 ) at 1:30 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

BIG AL: The manufacturing process for bulbs and tubes produces parts which need time to "break in". This is not true for non-glass encapsulated electronics. Especially for solid state electronics.
JBC ( 207.164.221.52 ) at 1:23 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Ron H: OK, now that you have the lion's share of your new speakers it is time for a trip to Houston. Let me know what work for you, if anything, in the June/July timefram as I figure that you will have the Theater, second set of Scripts and new HT furniture by then.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:22 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Kieran; Great remote site! I was reading the instructions, and it's amazing what the manufacturers could do with these remotes, and don't.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:20 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

74 degrees, sunny, light breeze, and all I can do is watch inept motorcycle riders attempt to pass their driving test. very depressing.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 1:20 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Congrats, my friend! Here's hoping all goes smoothly from here on out.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:17 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

JBC; On my beatiful, hi-tech, flat screen monitor, I can't read it! It looks like jibberish.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.116 ) at 1:17 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
SMR Forum

JBC: An elegant, to the point letter. Let us know if you get a real reply. So many people need to be constantly reminded that this IS simply a hobby - and an expensive one at that.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:14 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

BC; Driven does look good, if only it didn't have Sly in it.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:13 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Joe; Good news! Congrats!
JBC ( 207.164.221.52 ) at 12:53 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
SMR Forum

For those interested, here is a letter I wrote to Nigel Pound (one of the administrators at SMR)

Nigel:

Thank you for you page.

For now I will be hanging around for the next day or two simply to learn about the newly announced pre/pro. I will neither participate (i.e. respond to queries or post new threads) nor visit thereafter.

There is not much you can do to keep me around beyond that. It is not my
intention to fight with anyone, particularly you, Stewart, Jeremy or Nigel who have ALWAYS been most helpful and patient.

While I understand, support and applaud the need for balanced opinions I do not feel Philip's attacks were warranted. I asked a number of my fellow Lexicon owners and SMR participants, one or two which may have corresponded with you on the issue, to review the thread. The feedback was unanimous -- Philip's responses were unprovoked and extreme.

Remember, this is a hobby. One in which I spend a great deal of time and money for purposes of deriving enjoyment. There is nothing joyful about the tongue lashings I received. I just do not need the grief.

That said, I will rethink my views in a couple of days and let you know.

In the event that I do not return, I want to thank you for the effort, time and understanding you spread through SMR. It is truly a wonderful place, one in which you and your fellow administrators ought to take great pride in. You have created a gem and we, the participants, are that much richer for its existence.

If you wish to e-mail me feel free to do so as I will respond.

Joel

RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 12:44 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Congrats!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 12:43 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

cai: Actually, I think the DQ-10s were great speakers. Similar design as the Vandersteens (features time-aligned drivers in sorta free space type of enclosure; more horizontal where the 'steens are more vertical). A co-worker's dad used to have a pair, he now has Martin Logan Aerius speakers. We were talking about older classic speaker designs (eg. vandersteens, Magnepans, Quads, DCM Time Windows, Spicas, and dalhquists all came to mind). Dahlquist purchased a speaker company that I briefly considered... a three piece (satellite/sub) setup for around $500 called 3D Acoustics.
BYork ( 159.37.7.57 ) at 12:36 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

BIG congrats Joe!
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.116 ) at 12:27 PM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: That great news. So where are our cigars papa?
JBC ( 207.164.221.52 ) at 11:56 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Joe: The important things of life help put perspectibe on the others. Big time comgratulations my friend! Have a cold one and relax.
BAGMAN ( 207.30.191.226 ) at 11:55 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: Way to go and congrats. Best wishes to all.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:45 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Joe: CONGRATS on the new addition. You guys take care!
Joe ( 205.188.192.46 ) at 11:40 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
She's Here

Good Morning all,

It's been quite the day. We went in yesterday for a second opinion due to pregregency complacations, that was at 1100.

At 16:13 yesterday Joanna Marie was born. She is small but everything is working and developed. She has a few pounds to put on before she can come home. In the meanwhile I will be spending my time in the NeoNatal Unit.

Well I had to tell someone, I only told family in town so my wife can get her rest. I know people mean well, but people coming into her romm does not let her rest at all.

Isn't it amazing how a little bundle can change your whole outlook on life
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 11:23 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Well gang, its off to Vermont for the weekend. I will talk to you guys on Sunday.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 11:22 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

RickMTB: Careful what you say about the DQ-10s, I still own a pair. They still sound good, but I have not done a test versus my Joseph Audio RM25s.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:10 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Any of you guys looking forward to "driven"? Looks like it could be an awesome DVD.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:33 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

To Starwars Fans:
www.supershadow.com
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 9:58 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Ron H

Congrats on your purchase. The one thing to remember is that the MLs are not just pure ES speakers but have the bass so that may be where the break in, if any, may show some results. I just remember mine sounding incredible right out of the box. I am really looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the bass forward design.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 9:54 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Sony Pre/Pro Fans

uBid still is auctioning off new TA9000 Sony Pre/Pros in the Champagne Finish. It seems like it is a core uBid Product now. Under Consumer Electronics - Audio - Home Audio. The one on now is at $509. Friggin temping. They also have a refurb Denon 3300 yum.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 9:53 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

CuRTis: Wow, I didn't know Dahlquist made electrostatic speakers (I seem to recall their time-aligned speakers like the DQ-10)...
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 9:32 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Power Supply

AVB: Great site, thank you.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.123 ) at 8:47 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Scott pop; If you can say that a CRT tubes have a mechanical part, then you could also say that sending an electrical current through a wire has a mechanical part to it. Metal Halide bulbs with a 6500 k rating are not even close to that rating for the first 48 hours or so. Wouldn't you call this a break in period?
Ron H ( 63.44.128.28 ) at 8:34 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Upscale pre/pros:

JBC: I am with you on that.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.28 ) at 8:30 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

BC: You have mail.
JBC ( 207.164.221.52 ) at 8:28 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Upscale pre/pros:

mic: I'll take two. Do you have US$35,000 to lend me? The prices for the Meridian 861, Theta Casablanca, and now Lexicon xxx are simply nuts! These processors cost more that a FP, screen and scaler. I would much rather spend the extra $$$ on a Stewart Screen, Rock scaler and FP!
Ron H ( 63.44.128.28 ) at 8:23 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Tony C: OK
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 8:21 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Upscale pre/pros:

JBC: the end is not insight, 6.1 is hear, real talk about 10.2, Telarc has a different 6 channel configuation for music. digital interfaces for DVD-A & SACD are comming. Looking at these the Meridian 861 is the way to go with it's modular design, need more channels add a board, need new interface replace a board, new software download from net. This is what's needed, but at a much lower price point.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:03 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Ron H: LIke I said earlier, I will take the RCA DTV receiver. I"ll send an email.
AVB ( 64.41.32.96 ) at 7:16 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001
Power Supply

cai: I don't have any experience with the link I gave you. Here is a mfg that has the type heater you want. http://www.morelectric.com/hbb.htm
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:52 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

Good morning all...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.101 ) at 1:08 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

CuRTis: I hope he didn't test drive my SGI
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.101 ) at 1:07 AM EST Friday, April 20, 2001

BIG AL: Though it might not seem like it, tubes (including CRTs) do have a "mechanical" part to them... Though it might not be readily apparent
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.192 ) at 11:42 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

RonH, Darian, Scott pop; When I was on Grand Cayman island, there was a bar on the waterfront that projected a HUGE image onto a white petroleum storage tank next to it. I was taking a floating break during a night dive, about a quarter mile out, and watching boxing. VERY Koool!
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 11:38 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

AVB: Thank you for the information. I will take a look at those heaters and see if someone sells them in this area. Do you have any experience with them? I am leaning towards a radiant liquid filled heater because I think that the fan in a convection one would be too noisy to be in an HT room.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.192 ) at 11:36 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Scott pop; If breaking in anything non-mechanical is stupid, then why is it necessary to use a RPTV for a couple months before you ISF calibrate it?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.178 ) at 10:44 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Scott "popcorn": That reminds me that I made the mistake of tossing my car keys to my sons drum teacher yesterday. I had no idea how fast the car could go from a stop. He turns to my son and explains that he was once a driving instructor - don't try this at home.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.178 ) at 10:41 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Kieran: Perhaps, but you'll get to that instant gratification thing sooner by blasting them. I wouldn't even think about placement before you knew they were ready.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 10:02 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Kieran: In theory, the "90dB for a week" thing would work better, because you'd be getting more cone travel than "Normal levels" will give. Of course, breaking in anything that is non-mechanical is just plain stupid. Burning in, to see if it will fail is a different story. Just my 2 cents (plus inflation)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 9:54 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

CuRTis: I'd argue that given enough time playing at NORMAL levels, a speaker will break in just as well as if you do the "90 dB for a week" thing. Doing that is just speeding up a normal process.

(IMHO)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 9:51 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Just too cool...

You've got to check this out...

http://wpg.groupwest.ca/hayz/fight.swf

Takes a little while to load, but be patient, it's fun and cool!
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.178 ) at 9:50 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Ron H: I think that some speakers really do benefit from a good break in period. The reviews of my speakers all said it made a big difference and I agree. They're simply too tight out of the box and need a protracted amount of near ref level workout to sound their best. You may recall the phrase "loan them to a drummer for a week - he'll think that you're a nice guy and you'll KNOW that he'll crank them".

Then again electrostats may be an entirely different matter. I haven't owned any since my Dahlquists ages ago.
Ron H ( 63.232.64.175 ) at 9:42 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

I only have the original boxes and manuals for the Parasound and the Yamaha demod.
Ron H ( 63.232.64.175 ) at 9:40 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

email if interested in the used equipnment is ronhtx@msn.com
Ron H ( 63.232.64.175 ) at 9:39 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Jeez one would think that after these years posting my typing would improve. Thank god for spell checkers, grammer checkers and as they call them in this day and age administrative assistants.
Ron H ( 63.232.64.175 ) at 9:36 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Kieran:My previous set were also MLs. They sounded pretty good from the get go to me, but for nthe first week oe so I left them on quite often when we left the house but not at a 90 db level. I can't say if it helped but i know it did not hurt.

Proper placement of MLs willhave the largest effect on the sound more so than the electronics feeding them or break in.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 9:32 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Kieran: *sniff* *whimper* Ok, you asked for it now... if you run into ANY of those good-looking girls headed to oklahoma (I don't care what part) tell them they have to pay me a visit.
Ron H ( 63.232.64.175 ) at 9:30 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Also I will be selling a Parasound HCA-1000A THX 2 channel amp. It did a great cjog for my 7.1 set up, a RCA DRD515RB sat reciever with digital audio out. This may have a H card in it. The number on the card is H00443.....

I am looking at moving this stuff and the stuff below at a very good price. Make me a offer.
Gar ( 169.207.194.139 ) at 9:26 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Ron H:ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish you would have posted this a few days ago. I wouldn't have bought the Pioneer Elite CDL-79
Gar ( 169.207.194.139 ) at 9:25 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

JBC:I totally Agree with you on the long post about Pre/Pros etc.....
SACD and DVD Audio is nowhere near mainstream...... When it does get there prices will be much less expensive.. And I bet you could pick up a great piece for $1500 that does everything well......
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 9:25 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Oh BTW.....I can say that.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 9:24 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
break in, schmake in...

Kieran: I totally agree. Speaker "break in" is for those instant gratification types. I'd rather be able to say, "Man, these babies sound sweeter every day!"
Gar ( 169.207.194.139 ) at 9:23 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Lexicon Announces New Units

Tony C: hehehehe That's funny..:)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 9:23 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Ron H:
I am not sure if break in makes a diffeence in electrostats or ones ear just get use to/adjusts to the sound
Are these your first set of electro statics? I thought your last speakers were ML electrostats too... or is it just that you got the old set used (ergo requiring no break-in)?
Ron H ( 63.232.64.175 ) at 9:22 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

I will be selling a Pioneer CLD-D505 LD Payer, a Pioneer CLD-702 LD player, a Yamaha ADP-1 Demodulator and about 2 dozen LDs as a package deal. Anyone interested drop me a email at ronhtx@msn.com
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 9:20 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
break in, schmake in...

Ron H: I always kind of shy away from "break in" suggestions. It seems to me that a break in prescription is just what you have to do if you want your new speakers to sound as good as they can ASAP. I say, why the hurry? You're probably going to have these speakers for YEARS. They will break in over time, and you will grow with them, and enjoy them more as their sound mellows and sweetens. I mean, if you're a dealer, and you're setting up a demo room, sure, you want to "break them in" ASAP. But I doubt a set of Martin Logans are going to sound like shit out of the box, until you "break them in" YMMV
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 9:16 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Scott "popcorn": LOL! That's okay, because she does.
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 8:53 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Gar: You have email
Ron H ( 63.232.66.83 ) at 8:27 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Thanks for the congrats guys. I should gert delivery between 9:00 am and 11:00 AM on Saturday. I have been told they need 80 hours of break in at 90 dbs. I am not sure if break in makes a diffeence in electrostats or ones ear just get use to/adjusts to the sound.

I guess the next question is if you love the sound out of the box could it turn for the worse after "break in? It seems they always say it will get bettewr. Why could it not get worse if you already love the sound?.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 8:16 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Scalers and AVB

Kieran: I don't like you.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 7:49 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Hmmm Odd.........

Gar/AVB: I just tried to get on MTBReview.com (moutnain bikes) which is run by the same company, and it's down as well....

HHHHMMMMMMMmmmmmm....
Gar ( 169.207.194.49 ) at 7:49 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Projectors

cai: The Sony has Digital keystone correction if I remember correctly?
Bottom line would be a side by side comparison.... Plus most Sony 10HTs can be had for less then $5000.00, not too sure where the Sanyo fits in there.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 7:48 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Traveling shows.

AVB: PAH! What would YOU know about life in Russia????

Oh, wait a minute... never mind...


AVB ( 64.41.33.102 ) at 7:48 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Hmmm Odd.........

Gar: I was just trying there myself not a minute ago. They are having server problems and are off line from what I see.
Gar ( 169.207.194.49 ) at 7:46 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Hmmm Odd.........

Anyone know did Audioreview.com fold? It says it is no longer avalible?
AVB ( 64.41.33.102 ) at 7:26 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Traveling shows.

Scott "popcorn": Scott, this is actually done in Russia only with a projector. There are so many small towns that are not near any movie theater that the "travel show" comes around once a month or so. They have a pretty good turn out from what I am told.
AVB ( 64.41.33.102 ) at 7:18 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

cai: Ok, here is what I have found out for your heater wiring. You need a 20 amp double pole breaker. The black wire goes to one and the red wire goes to the other. Of course, ground goes to the grounding block. This is for 240 and not 208 three phase.

At your heater there should be the corresponding red, black and green(ground) wires. Connect each wire to the proper color (MAKE SURE THE BREAKER IS OFF OR DISCONNECTED) and mount the unit. If you have an extra wire cap it off with a wire nut. See: http://www.cadetco.com/faq.html for more info.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 6:48 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Meet

Darian: Sounds like a very good idea. I would like to see a DLP image and you sound very enthusiastic about your projector. Maybe we could even do an A/B test with Bill's CRT.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 6:44 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Scalers and AVB

Scott "popcorn": Yep.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.178 ) at 6:38 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: Outstanding selection. Congratulations on your new puppies.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 6:31 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Scalers and AVB

Kieran: What's the good mood for? Did that chick miss you as much as you missed her?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 6:30 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Ron H: A few years back, I had the passing idea a few times of an SUV outfitted with HT equipment, with a projector pointing out the back... You could go to any farm (or any other place with a suitable screen) and project the image on the side of a barn... Just have a big ol traveling drive-in (You can tell I'm country, can't ya? )
BAGMAN ( 207.30.191.226 ) at 6:28 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: Congrats on the purchase and having,what must be a great and understanding wife.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:10 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Scalers and AVB

AVB:
This shed/garage keeps getting more expensive every time I look at it.
Try wearing a blindfold the next time you work on it!

(Okay... that was pretty lame, but what the hell... I'm in a good mood!)
AVB ( 64.41.32.146 ) at 5:33 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Scalers and AVB

Darian: Unless something happens money wise a Rock is not in my future. This shed/garage keeps getting more expensive every time I look at it. I had no idea that concrete block cost so much. I thought 60-70 cents each not 95. When you need 1,000 of them it makes a difference. And rebar...just plain iron bar is 29 cents a foot and I need 400+ ' of it. The list goes on and on. My $3000 project will hit close to $5K and I can't charge the overruns to the government, but I'm working on that
Ron H ( 63.44.134.40 ) at 5:18 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Darian: Isn't it great that these digital projectors are so light and small. One can set it up almost anywhere. Have you ever thought of doing a drivein movie in the back yard?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 4:49 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Congrats Ron!

I remember those Ascents were the model I most enjoyed on the entire line. I bet you can't wait firing them up...
Darian ( 66.44.10.206 ) at 4:21 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

DiSh Network finally updated the demo loop on 9443. The sound is still way too low and only in DD 2.0. However they got a much longer demo reel with more interesting stuff.

I am pretty sure the signal being sent from DiSH Network is 1080i. I found the projector seems to prefer the converted 720P. This is what sparked my interest in the Crystal Image. I think there are scallers built on the DVDO/Sil chips. I am pretty sure that they have the same problems as the Denon 2800. It seems the DVDO stuff is the best in the bussiness as long as you use EVERYTHING from them and noy just the deinterlacer.
Darian ( 66.44.10.206 ) at 4:14 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Scalers and AVB

AVB: When you are ready to install your Rock... could I perchance... check out your Crystal Image? I just hooked my computer up to the NEC at 1024x768 and everything was razor sharp. I was curious to see what a scaller could do. 720P looks great too and I wonder what the quality of signal would be from a Crystal Image unit scalling signals in comparison to the NEC's scaller.
Darian ( 66.44.10.206 ) at 4:05 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Cai. When Bill gets back we were thinking of looking at the EAD TheaterVisionP on his display at native versus a scaller. Since I can carry my projector in one hand I would bring it along.

Everything is in a state of not quite prepaired here. I have the Projector sitting on a make shift stand and the screen is not yet mounted. I do have a 80" wide HDTV picture thou. For a while I was using the Sampo as the projector stand! Since they told me to mail the set back to California I have not been too fond of it.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 3:54 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Tweeter

Tony C: check out www.hometheaterspot.com They have a forum dedicated to Mitsubishi sets (and forums for several other brands too). Also, RGB owns a 55" Mits. He seems to like it well enough. While the picture is great and all, it didn't "blow me away" as I thought it would. But then RGB said his set needed calibration pretty bad when I saw it, I think.

Which specific model were you looking at?
Ron H ( 63.44.228.118 ) at 3:51 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Thanks guys
johnbr ( 24.112.55.144 ) at 3:35 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Hi all hope you all had a good day.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:09 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Manhattan HT dealers

cai: Yeah, that helps big time. Thanks a lot.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 3:04 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Projectors

If any of you comes accross the new Sanyo PLV-60, could you try and see how good this projector is and how it compares to the Sony 10HT. Both of these projectors have a 16:9 aspect ratio. The Sanyo is costing more because it has more goodies, like digital keystone correction, power focus, digital zoom, and higher H and V syncs. The Sanyo also has 1300 lumen brightness, Vs. 1000 for the 10HT and the contrast ratio for the Sanyo is 700:1 - no number is given for the 10HT.

Thank you.

Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:56 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Tweeter

thought I would add this. I made friends with the new manager of the Tweeter store near my office. I asked for the old manager, who I have known for about 20 years (no shit), and they said "He moved on".

Anyway, like I told Ron, I listened to some MLs but told the guy that my next upgrade should really be a display. And like I said I worked him good on the Sony 10HT. But before that, I mentioned to him that I already have the biggest TV I can get down the stairs. But he says that the Mits comes apart in two pieces. So we go look at the Mits.

You guys. He's got the picture totally squished. He's playing back a 4:3 source on the TV and peoples faces look like pumkins. So I ask my new freind why. Why wouldn't you display the TV with the best picture possible. I mean they even had the HD set box sitting on top of the TV. No answer. He just tells me that there are about 3 ways to adjust the picture. Whatever.


MITS: Didn't someone here want to buy a Mits? I'm wondering what your impressions of the set are? I have never been real keen on those. I'll have to check that one forum from the guy who does all the tweaking on Mits tvs. My point is that those big TVs are cheap, and I could have me one faster than a FP.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:52 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

congrats ron!
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 2:50 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Manhattan HT dealers

Tony C: Try some of these:

Name : Harvey Electronics
Address: 2 West 45th Street
New York, N.Y.
Phone: 212-575-5000
Web site: www.harveyonline.com

Name: INNOVATIVE AUDIO
Address: 150 E. 58TH ST.
NEW YORK, NY 10155
Phone: 212 634-4444
Web site: www.innovaudio.com

Name: LYRIC HI FI
Address: 1221 LEXINGTON AVE.
NEW YORK, NY 10028
Phone: 212 535-5710
Web site: www.lyricusa.com

Name: STEREO EXCHANGE
Address: 627 BROADWAY
NEW YORK, NY 10012
Phone: 212 505-1111
Web site: www.stereoexchange.com

Name: Sound by Singer
Address: 18 East 16th St.
New York, NY 10003
Phone: 212-924-8600
Web Site: www.soundbysinger.com

Of these Harvey, Sounds by Singer, Lyric, and Innovative seem to be the higher end. Fernando could also add a few more.

Hope this helps.

Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:48 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: I just came back from Tweeter where I was listening to some Requests, and scripts. You are indeed very lucky.


I really worked the guy on a Sony 10HT with a Stewart screen. I just don't have the money now.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:42 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: Congrats! Jealousy abounds....
Ron H ( 63.61.205.151 ) at 1:41 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

Rich F: I got the Dark Cherry trim on the Ascents.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.151 ) at 1:39 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

Well I am now the Proud owner of a setMartin Logan Ascents and a set of Scripts. Iam set up for delivery this Saturday.

Rich FMany thanks to your son. I ended up with what I felt was a more than fair deal. He even covered the delivery charge for me.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 1:39 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
OFA remotes

cai: http://www.hifi-remote.com/ofa/
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 1:33 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
OFA remotes

cai: Have you tried the "Show all posts" feature? I'm not aware of an archive recently.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 1:22 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power

AVB: I asked you to post that to give bouncey a complex... he seems to be overly concerned with power usage, renewable resources, etc...
Tony C ( 64.108.10.34 ) at 1:11 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Manhattan HT dealers

Cai: or anyone,
Can you give me some names of good dealers in Manhattan?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 12:37 PM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
OFA remotes

Kieran: Could you please post that site again? I do not know what happened, but I have lost all posts between 4/18 and 4/06. There does not seem to be an archive for those either. Thank you.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 11:55 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
You guys are good...

Darian, Joe, and anyone else who posted to me about my speaker wire running questions:

I picked up a basic home electrical wiring book at the hardware store the other day. Not that I needed it to do the speaker runs... what you all had posted was ample. But I just figured it would be good to educate myself, as I know next to nothing about house wiring. Anyway, it had a section on running cable and/or speaker wire in pre-existing homes, and the method was basically just what you all had described!

BTW, I now understand why an "Old Works Box" is called what it is. As opposed to a "New Works Box", which is used for new homes, and Old Works is used for "OLD" or existing walls that you have to cut to install the box.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 11:49 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
OFA remotes

Scott "popcorn": Cool! No problem! I'm glad you were able apply the info to your VE4 remote. Most OFA based remotes are very similar, just some have more features than others. That web site is a jewel, indeed. Up until it came online, I had to piece together all that infor from several other web sites, and it took some doing to sort out all the info. Basically someone just did the same thing, and compiled it into one well-laid out web site.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.254 ) at 11:41 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

JBC: I am heading to the store in about 20 minutes. If they are able to I want delivery this Saturday.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:38 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Ron H: Good luck with the purchases. Are you going to them delivered on Saturday?
Ron H ( 63.44.128.116 ) at 11:16 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Ron H

Rich F : I am just considering all options but I tend to agree that picking up the Theater center would be the way to go. I plan to do the Ascent and Script deal today. When I get back from Florida I will finalize a furniture/rack deal and look at the Logo upgrade.

I have some work to be done on the pool yet and just what that bill may be will determine when I go for the Theater.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 10:57 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Ron H

The idea of buying back your SL3s may sound tempting but do you really need them for surrounds and do you have the real estate. I think my son would make more money if you did buy them back but I think you would be better off spending the money on the other pair of Scripts and upgrading your Logos to the Theater.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 10:55 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

Joe: You are correct in that the 12/3 wire has black, red, white, and ground wires. I have not bought the heater yet, but would like to lay out the wiring. The unit only pulls about 3 amps and I am hooking-up two of them at different locations. Thank you for your ideas.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 10:55 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
JBC

I agree that I will most likely not be trading up since I really enjoy the MC1 and if I had component needs i would hook direct to the TV. (although I haven't seen the trade up policy so I reserve the right to be foolish later). The biggest advantage to the Lexicon is the upgrade capabilities short of changing units. I would definitely upgrade my EPROM to get the latest version of Logic 7 and therein lies the best part of the value equation. I agree that the improvements in sound from an MC1 would probably be difficult to tell in a true AB but with a higher end unit but the difference in software could be significant. That's why I love Lexicon. I won't feel outdated if I update the EPROM at something less than $400.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 10:52 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

Joe: You are correct in that it a black, red white and ground 12/3 wire. I have not bought the heater yet, but would like to lay out the wiring. The unit only pulls about 3 amps and I am hooking-up two of them at different locations. Thank you for your ideas.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 10:33 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

AVB: It is just a fancy space heater that uses 220/240 volts through direct wiring. I have not made the connections yet and am relying on concepts that I have read in book. Perhaps I should review these books again. Thank you for your reply.
Joe ( 64.12.102.153 ) at 10:20 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

But for converstation the device probabley has a connection point, 3 of them. One for each leg ( red, black wire in your example) and a nutreal ( white) Plus a ground of course.

Are you trying to hook up a alarm system above the meter?
Chris L. ( 64.12.106.53 ) at 10:18 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

JBC: You typing with your knee?
Bwahahaha!!
Joe ( 64.12.102.153 ) at 10:18 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

cai: If I could jump in, What kind of amperage is the device pulling? On second thought, if you are wiring 220v direct, maybe you should hire a Electrician.
AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 9:44 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

cai: I don't feel qualified to answer your question as I haven't had much expierance with wiring 220/240, Big difference between theory and practical application. Better to be safe then sorry when dealing with those. If you tell me what you are trying to hookup I may be able to point you to an answer.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:39 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

AVB: Thank you for your explanation, it makes sense. I now would like to pose to you a practical question. I have to connect a 220 Volt appliance, direct connection no wall outlet. If I get a single throw, 20 amp double breaker, and use 12/3 wire, I will connect the black wire to one side of the breaker and the red wire to the other side of the same double breaker. When I make the connection at the appliance,I would then have to combine the black and red to make 220 volts. Is this correct? Is this what you can a dual phase wiring system? Is there another way of getting 220 volts from the box using only one live wire?

I am using 12/3 because I do not want to use 10/2 or 10/3. I find it hard enough to use 12 gauge and I do not need the 30 amp connection.

Thank you for you help.

AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 9:36 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Damn, hit the button twice.
AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 9:36 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Trigger sequence

JBC: The preamp comes on first and the amps last for turn on. Reverse for turn off. I have a long delay of about 15 seconds between the preamp comming on and the amps turning on. Until I get the adapter for my Furman PSPRO my sequence is this:
PSPSO on via mechanical switch on it's front panel, this turns on the Sony 9000 on the delay one circuit, some other things on delay 2, and then the 12v wallwart with dual outputs is on delay 3 for the amps.
The Sony trigger turns on a Parasound scamp with 8 second delay which supplies power to the Sub amp.

All in all, everything that doesn't require a keep alive voltage (DSS, VCR, etc etc) will come on just by turning on the PSPRO. Other source things have to be manually turned on for use like the phonograph, tape deck, DVD, LD etc etc depending on what I want to use.

PSPRO > Sony, TT crossover, dbx120 & 12v wallwart
Sony> Scamp1
Scamp1> Parasound 1200II, VMPS crossover & trigger to Scamp2
Scamp2> projector & hush box fan
AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 9:35 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Trigger sequence

JBC: The preamp comes on first and the amps last for turn on. Reverse for turn off. I have a long delay of about 15 seconds between the preamp comming on and the amps turning on. Until I get the adapter for my Furman PSPRO my sequence is this:
PSPSO on via mechanical switch on it's front panel, this turns on the Sony 9000 on the delay one circuit, some other things on delay 2, and then the 12v wallwart with dual outputs is on delay 3 for the amps.
The Sony trigger turns on a Parasound scamp with 8 second delay which supplies power to the Sub amp.

All in all, everything that doesn't require a keep alive voltage (DSS, VCR, etc etc) will come on just by turning on the PSPRO. Other source things have to be manually turned on for use like the phonograph, tape deck, DVD, LD etc etc depending on what I want to use.

PSPRO > Sony, TT crossover, dbx120 & 12v wallwart
Sony> Scamp1
Scamp1> Parasound 1200II, VMPS crossover & trigger to Scamp2
Scamp2> projector & hush box fan
AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 9:18 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

cai: The limiting factors are wire gage and your breaker. 10 gage is for 30 amp single phase loads For dual phase you can use 12 gage for a 30 amp load because the full load is not constant over just one wire (putting it simply). The resistance in smaller gage wire causes heat which can pose a fire hazard and that is why the codes are 50% greater then what is actually needed in an open air environment. Also, the contact area of the recpticle is greater for 20 amp edison style plug, once again to reduce heat. The physical plugs are different for different type circuits more for safety among similar style plugs. Don't want to plug in a 2 phase device into a 3 phase outlet!

Load is what the end device uses. You can have 100 amps waiting at the wall, plug in a 20 amp device and if it is designed properly, it will only be able to draw 22 amps (10% over) before something internal trips (breaker) blows (fuse) or resets. All modern devices have some type of safety feature to prevent a unit from drawing current above its design limit.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:13 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

Sorry for all the typos but I just got back from physio therapy and my knee is killing.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:10 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

AVB: I am trying to rig the trigger between my amp and pre/pro. Can you please confirm which of the two goes on first during power on (i.e. amp first and pre/pro second or pre/pro first and amp second) as well as the order on power off. Thanks.

Lexicon A few comments on the newly announced Lexicon pre/pros:

1. I highly doubt there will be on in my future. These units, which are geared towards the Meridian 861 and Theta Casablanca crowd, are simply too expensive. Moreover, how much better can they be -- US$5,000 worth -- I doubt it!

2. I, likely like others here, need to "balance" their susyems. I can not envision spending the additional dollars on audio, given that I have an MC-1, without first seriously upgrading both my room and my video. There is the "bang for the buck" factor to consider.

3. I, like others, are also getting frustrated with the two to three year cycle of spending an ever increasing amount on a new top-of-the-line pre/pro. What owners of the MC-1 should keep in mind is that the MC-1 is still and extrodinary peice of equipment, it simply is no longer Lexicon's best. Much in the same way that the Meridian 561/568, Theta Casanova, etc. are all wonderful pieces of gear although they are not their respective companies best.

4. Continuing on th lines of getting frustrated with the two to three year cycle of spending an ever increasing amount on a new top-of-the-line pre/pro there is an important question to ask -- does it make sense to spend this kind of money on a pre/pro now with some many outstanding issues? For example, the true abilities of DVD-A and SACD can not be realized until a digital connection is available to take advantage of time alignment, bass management and the like.

5. On the same subject, here is an interestin qestion. What is the preferred path:

a) Stick with a Lexicon, Meridian, Proceed, Theta or like piece of gear knowing that every two to three years you are in for some major $$$ in the neighbourhood of $5,000+.

b) Stick with Parasound, Sony or like pieces which provide very capable performance (although not quite at the level of the above pieces) knowing that every two to three years you are in for $2,500 to $3000?

I am starting to lean towards the later. Please proovide your thoughts?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:00 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power Supply

This month's Home Theater Magazine reviews the Richard Gray's Power Conditioner (RGPC). In the review there is the following statement:

"and the extra heavy-duty cord use 20-amp version of the IEC connector, allowing you to feed the RGPC 1200S the maximum power possible from a domestic outlet."

I was not aware that there was a limit as to how much power one could have at a wall outlet, providing the wiring and fuses are properly sized. I guess the limiting factor here is the 12 gauge wire that is used in the RGPC power connecting cable. I say this because if you have a 10 gauge wire and a 30 amp fuse, shouldn't you be able to draw 30 amps from an appropriate wall receptacle?

I would like to hear from the electrical engineers who may know something about the code. It seems to me that everytime I go to a Home Depot or Lowe's someone has a different interpretation of the building codes, and now this from HT magazine. I guess I may have to read the code and make my own fourth interpretation.

Ron H ( 63.44.126.193 ) at 8:56 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Lexicon Announces New Units

Tony C: That price is in another level than the one I want to play in.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 8:45 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Alarms and Projectors

Thank you to JBC, Darian, Tony C, Joe, and all the others that gave feedback on my questions regarding hardwired alarms and projector operations.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:33 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Lexicon Announces New Units

Gar: Totaly. At those prices, it should be able to drive you to work as well as order a pizza for your movie.
Ron H ( 63.44.126.193 ) at 8:27 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

mic: Hmmmmmm
mic ( 198.23.26.253 ) at 8:22 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Lexicon Announces New Units

JBC: gotta keep up with the Jones, hope Lex switched over from EPROM to Flash memeory upgrades. This kinda makes my Meridian 568 cheap.
mic ( 198.23.26.253 ) at 8:19 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: WOW, Congrats ! GO back in a couple of days and pick up your SL3's at a redued demo price.
Ron H ( 63.44.126.193 ) at 8:17 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001

If all goes well I should be purchasing a couple of new sets of Martin Logans today.
AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 7:55 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power

Scott "popcorn": After giving it some thought, the 4,500 watt number is really for demo purposes. You can't stay in the room very long at that level. U-571 was showing 18amp draws on the PS30 so the other circuit was in the 9 amp range. 27 amps works out to about 3,200 watts which is less then an electric water heater and about the same as an electric dryer.
AVB ( 64.41.32.102 ) at 7:19 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Power

Scott "popcorn": Based on the back panel power ratings of all my equipment my max draw is 6,861 watts. I had this already in a spreadsheet so I could figure out how to divide the load between the PP20 and the PP30. Of course, not EVERYTHING is on at one time so my normal max draw for say watching a DVD is 6,272 watts. In reality, an action style movie will peak in the 4,500 watt area and the sustained level will be much less.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:03 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
JBC

Rich: Thanks.
Ron H ( 63.59.201.90 ) at 5:00 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Ron H

Rich F: Back at you.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.243 ) at 2:04 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
OFA remotes

Kieran: Thanks SOOOOO MUCH for posting that advanced programming for OFA remotes link... I have reprogrammed my OFA Video Expert 4 (bedroom remote) and now it operates the DVD in a logical manner. I have no idea why OFA made the default COMPLETELY illogical to begin with (and an e-mail told me I couldn't fix it except some V.Config crap... The website you linked was MUCH more helpful)
Rich F ( 172.173.140.192 ) at 1:14 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Ron H

You've got mail.
Kieran ( 209.79.134.195 ) at 1:09 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
i'm baaaaack

bouncey: Re. SW ep1: TPM, read www.thedigitalbits.com for the latest news. Go to the rumor mill area... they have info there. Anyway, it's pretty much confirmed that TPM will street in October of '01.
Rich F ( 172.173.140.192 ) at 1:02 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
JBC

I finally read the threads and once again, Philip was oversensitive to your comments and unfortunately, went on ad nauseum after mischaracterizing your comments as demands. It was incredibly boorish but very Philip. I still think it is a useful forum but he has a history of those kinds of verbal spars and as they say, "never start a print fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel." Since he is a forum moderator and is more tenacious than a pit bull, I would just steer clear of him. I did send a complaint to Nigel just so the other moderators get an outside opinion of how they are coming across to readers.
Rich F ( 172.173.140.192 ) at 12:54 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
Bouncey

Phantom Menace is said to come out on DVD Oct. 16
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.243 ) at 12:51 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
brackets

bouncey: Try reading up on the SML Forum Guide... you might learn something (like how to do numbered lists)

HT device power: just add up all the wattages and amperes (with proper conversion) of all the devices in your rack and you've got your answer. AVB: could you do this with all your devices and post the result as well, just to have something to compare to?

Phantom Menace: Gee, why don't you lurk more... you just might keep up on the news
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 12:38 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
brackets

Okay, that worked. :p
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 12:38 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
brackets

Huh.

[1] ... [2] ... [3]
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 12:37 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
brackets

Amazing! I had a few brackets in my previous post, which held numbers in a list: [1\] ... [2\] ... [3\] The bracketed items disappeared. This time I'm escaping the brackets to see if it works.
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 12:31 AM EST Thursday, April 19, 2001
i'm baaaaack

FINALLY got caught up. Stay away for a week or so, and the msgs really pile up here...

Notebooks: I really like my Apple iBook. 300 MHz PowerPC G3 (faster than the MHz sounds), 160M RAM, pathetic 3gig hard disk, cdrom, no floppy drive (but why bother anyway?), MacOS X. Now they have iBooks for sale with better hard disks, more memory, dvd-rom, and 466 MHz processors. Wireless networking rocks too; it keeps pace with the cable modem quite nicely. My only complaint is the wimpy 800x600 screen, which is smaller than I'd prefer but still reasonably adequate for most uses.

West coast power: If there are any price controls anywhere in the system, it's not total deregulation, by definition. They really need to build more power plants, encourage "heavy" users to install solar panels to reduce peak daytime loads, and totally remove all price controls. Though this doesn't have to happen overnight; I suspect it would be a big shock to consumers if it did happen quickly. From what I've read, they called the current system "deregulation", but the truth is that it's half deregulation and half socialization. Me? I want to go completely wind/solar when we can afford a house. Sell excess power back to the grid as a public service.

How much power do most HT devices consume? I assume it's an impressive amount when everything is on and working.

Phantom Menace: It's coming to DVD?!? When, where? I thought Lucas was dead set against providing decent quality for the customers, 'cause we're all no-good pirates who don't deserve to see his movies. What about the other Star Wars movies? You realize, of course, Star Wars is the only reason I bought a laserdisc player...

Sigh.
Gar ( 169.207.192.229 ) at 11:44 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Lexicon Announces New Units

JBC: hmmmmm, I guess I was on track when I heard that Lexicon was coming out with new units soon. But at those prices, I don't care how good they sound...
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:10 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Gasgeek:thanks for the added info and link. They do look pretty cool.

Ron H: You'll have an unbelievable system. Congratulations.
I could be interested in your dss reciever, when your ready.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:04 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Lexicon Announces New Units

There is a preliminary announcement at SMR wrt two new units. These units are in addition to the DC-2 and MC-1 which will continue in their present form. The two unamned unites both contain all the features of the MC-1 plus component video switching, analog pass through, dts-es and dlp II. The single ended unit cost US$8,995 whereas the balanced unit costs US$9,995.

A trade in program will be start 90 days after shipping. No additional details are available (i.e. looks, card-based, RS-232 upgradeable, etc.). No additional information will be released by Lexicon.

Start saving those pennies.

Ron H: Please call when you as we need to talk!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:03 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Joe: See the thread below which gives the location on SMR. As to the leafs, i sent the wife out tonight so I can watch the game. I have some 15 year old Scotch in hand.
Wild Bill ( 209.110.93.2 ) at 8:00 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Cruisin'

Hey boys, this post is from somewhere between Grand Cayman and Cancun. We're at sea and having a blast. The Margaritas are flowing and the weather is here. I hope you are all having a great day and I will catch up on the weeks post and talk to ya'll on Saturday.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 7:58 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
funny post from another forum

This was on the avs hdtv forum... I'm only pasting the funny part:
The only problem Ive had with the TV so far is that a little bug is flying around on the inside of the screen... I sure hope it dies soon.
LOL! I just had to laugh at that! How irritating would that be? "I sure hope it dies soon..."
Joe ( 64.12.104.53 ) at 7:54 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JBC:

Where is this thread at? It hard to imagine someone being offended by your post.

BTW the Leafs must of read your post about being bummed out. They are doing the job on the Senators.
AVB ( 64.41.32.254 ) at 7:33 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Cinepro trigger

Rich F : The Cinepro uses a constant trigger, at least the two I have do.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:33 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Lexicon

Rich and Ron: Go take a look at Philip's latest posting to me. He continues to rip me a new one. I am gone from there for good! I will, in the next day or two, send an e-mail to Stuart asking him to delete my user ID -- I am that pissed.
Ron H ( 63.39.153.154 ) at 7:23 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Ron H

Rich F : I am planning to see if they can deliver the speakers on Saturday. If not I will have to wait awhile because I will be leaving for Florida next Thursday.
Ron H ( 63.39.153.154 ) at 7:09 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Ron H

Rich F : The problem with the Lex is how it has the ground is set up. JBC has been through this and can explain exactly what the problem is.

I plan to visit your son at lunch tommorow. If they will also go along with the trade on the Logo toward the Theater it should give him a decent sale. I also am looking at some new racks to put my equipment on, so that order should be following shortly after.

All my excess equipment will be up for sale to rebuild my mad money account and to reduce the size ot the rack needed. I need to get something low and wide so I will ge able to mount the scripts on the back wall above it.

I think I can get down to six pieces of equipment. My Lexicon, My DVD player, Sat receiver, and the NHT Sub amp that I use to power the TT's. I like this amp for this purpose because I can adjust the crossover. I like it turned down to about 40hz so I bo not have people talking into my butt.

That leaves the 6 channel Cinepro amp, the other 5 channel amp which I can use to power my 2 new subs and the rears in 7.1. This makes a total of six pieces with 3 channel of amplification left to use.

I will then have to sell my Parasound amp, my other Sat reciever, and both LD players and the Pioneer A/V racks.

My next plan in a few months will be to replace the M$K Tripoles with another set of Scripts. I will then have a full 7.1 Martian logan system using their latest products. I will need to get you over for a visit so you can at least for a day get past your ML withdrawl.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 6:32 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
JBC

Phillip is very knowledgeable but has a real history of taking strident positions on SMR. I hope you return and would say that Lexicon has no control over the issue but I will notify Nigel who is one of the admins.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 6:31 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Ron H

Hi Ron,

Thanks, now maybe he can pay me some rent. He mentioned to me that you were having problems with the MC1 triggering the Cinepro. I had the same problem with my Proceeds until I found out that the Proceeds use a pulse trigger whereas the trigger signal put out my the MC1 is constant. I got a xantech constant to pulse conversion unit for about $90 and Voila, one button turn on from the pronto. Could this be your problem?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 6:21 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Take a look

Robert: LOL! Here's the best part of that whole article:
Now, though, as the DVD is quickly gaining on the venerable VHS videocassette as the videophile's format of choice...
HAHAHA! Since WHEN was the "venerable VHS videocassette" ever the "videophile's format of choice"?????? What a joke THAT is!
Robert ( 63.31.173.157 ) at 5:59 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Take a look

I saw this the other day,,I think Mr Chapek at Buena Vista is a little nuts thinking I'm going to pay more $ just because it is a superior format,,,,a dvd is or will be cheaper to produce than a VHS,,,by far. I look at CD's and some of the crazy prices charged,,,DVD costs are more than CD,,but I paid $18 for City of Angels soundtrack yesterday, $3-4 more than any other CD I've purchased so far in my life,,,and I have yet to pay more than $25 for a DVD, and would rent anything higher priced.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nyt/20010416/tc/sale_of_dvd_s_are_challenging_movie_rental_business_1.html
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 5:51 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

oh crap
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 5:50 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Video Essentials

Ron H: Especially since I haven't seen it anywhere online for less than $30+
I picked up a copy only because my sister in California still has mine. "We're waitng to get a center channel before we return it." was her reply I think. Yet another HT convert in the fold.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 5:34 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Video Essentials

Ron H: Especially since I haven't seen it anywhere online for less than $30+
I picked up a copy only because my sister in California still has mine. "We're waitng to get a center channel before we return it." was her reply I think. Yet another HT convert in the fold.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:57 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Kieran

RickMTB: Cool... I have seen their store (never been in) but didn't realize they had a web site. Actually I was in their old store (different name) years ago, and it wasn't very great. I'll have to check out what they've got now in the way of demo rooms.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 4:38 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Kieran

This may be of most interest to you... SOndscape is in Santa Rosa:
http://www.sonic.net/soundscape/product.html
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 4:37 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen center channel

Ron H: Weird... I couldn't find it on the web site before, and there it is, plain as day. The Reference Monitor isn't listed however, but Soundscape's web site shows a picture of it. Since the VCC-5 is supposed to mate with the Vandersteen 5, the Vandersteen 3 sig, and the new Reference Monitor, the monitor must be a pretty expensive speaker as well.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 4:30 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen center channel

Ron H: Aha... I went to Soundscape's web site (they are a big Vandersteen dealer) and they list a center channel they call the VCC-5 for $1995. They refer to it as the center channel designed to go with the Vandersteen 5 speakers. That makes a lot more sense price wise. They also show a picture of a new Vandersteen *monitor* on stands. There is no way I would spend $2000 on a center channel...
Ron H ( 63.44.128.113 ) at 4:30 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Video Essentials

Chris L.: Not a bad price.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.113 ) at 4:28 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen center channel

RickMTB: You owe me one.

Here is the link for the $2K center speaker.
http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/VCC-5lit.html
Ron H ( 63.44.128.113 ) at 4:25 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen center channel

RickMTB: Yes $500 more for almost the same thing does not make sense.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 4:23 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Video Essentials

In case anyone's interested, 800.com has VE on sale for $24.94
Ron H ( 63.44.128.113 ) at 4:21 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Cinepro Pre/Pro

Darian: I guess that Tag has someone who knows what is needed to design a proper/good Pre/Pro. I actually have folloed postings on this unit and it seems to be received very well.

Do you have any experience with this unit or know someone who has? I am unable to get any first hand experience or a demo in Houston.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 4:20 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen center channel

Ron H: Thanks... again, it seems to support what people have been writing over on Speaker Asylum, and its likely Vandersteen doesn't update his web site. make sense from a cost differential basis... otherwise it doesn't make sense to spend that much more for solver internal wiring and spiffier Xovers...
Ron H ( 63.44.128.113 ) at 4:17 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BC: I would be glad to have you. I will keep you posted.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.113 ) at 4:16 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Cinepro Pre/Pro

RickMTB: You may want to call Audio Concepts as that is where the info came from. I think the sales guy name was Dean.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.113 ) at 4:12 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen center channel

RickMTB: I was the one who mentioned the new center. I can not remember the exact conversation I had with the dealer but it seems to me he said it had 2 6" on each side plus the normal coaxal.
Darian ( 66.44.21.8 ) at 4:10 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Cinepro Pre/Pro

I think they finally abbandoned this idea. Cinepro just doen't have the stuff to make pre/pros. They were farming units and make a change here and there to make a for a complete line up. The first Pre/pro they demoed died at a show from what I was told. Who ever tehy were going to farm from just didn't work out. They used to always demo with EAD TheaterMasters. Then EAD started making amps...

More than a year or so back, GOLDEN THEATER was a well reviewed inexpensive pre/pro. Cinepro started work on farming this preamp. At CES 2000 they ran a display for dealers and reps at a house they rented. The pre/pro had been stripped of any identifying characteristics. Front pannel was different and knobs and switches had been removed. A quick look at the back when a circuit was tripped by the VORTEX speaker system gave away the mystery Pre/Pro. Talking with Eric he mentioned that they were trying to work something out to do the preamps. Well Golden Theater disappeared and hark... no Cinepro preamp.

Making Preamps is a real different chore then making amps. Lexicon farms Brystons and rebadges them. Some comapnies have trhe man power and engineering to do both. But most are better at one... or the other.

As for going to TAG. That is the same guy who made the Lex. Good old BUZZ!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 3:45 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen center channel

I vaguely someone mentioning that the Signature version of the Vandersteen center channel (VCC-1 Sig) had more drivers than the VCC-1 which helped explain some of the cost differential and also helped it sound "larger". I have searched the web site and they show it having the same 6.5" driver as the VCC-1. I saw a few mentions on Speaker Asylum about a future larger center from vandersteen. Anyone recall the post or have info on the VCC? Thanks!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:32 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron, sounds like I will need to pull out my overnight bag soon!
You lucky dog! Sounds like a sweet deal is in the works for you.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.18 ) at 3:29 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Martin Logan

Rich F: It looks like your son will have some business coming his way.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.18 ) at 3:28 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Martin Logan

JBC: "The only suggestion I would now make would be to do the same deal but throw in the Logos for a Theater"

Good suggestion.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 3:01 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: I will check in with you in a hour or two as I am off to physio. Physio and pain are now synonyms in my own personal dictionary.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 2:57 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: Oh yeah... Big time congrats! Enjoy!!
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 2:56 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: I would do the deal. WHat they suggest is, to the best of my knowledge, standard practice on the speaker upgarde front. Moreover, you need to focus on the "differential" meaning that I doubt you pay less for an upgrade by selling your SL3s privately and then dealing on the Ascents and Scripts.

The only suggestion I would now make would be to do the same deal but throw in the Logos for a Theater. I do not think I would do the secong set of scripts at this point as I would go in and deal on these.

Let us know what you do. That said, you are most of the way there insofar as another trip to Houston goes.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.38 ) at 2:48 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Martin Logan

JBC: I just got a call. They will give me in full what I paid for my SL3's on trade if I pay list for the Ascents and Scripts. With the very small discounts one can get on Martin Logan list price is not a huge issue.

I think it makes sense to do this as I will end up with a current model vs my discontinued SL3's. My SL3's can only depeciate at a fairly fast level once some of the new models go up for sale on the used market.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 2:39 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Vandersteen update

Don't know why I haven't done this before, but I called Vandersteen to talk about buzzing noises coming from my 15yr old Vandersteen 2c's and the process of having them repaired and possibly updated. Someone here suggested I try the repair myslef, and that was also suggested to me by the customer service person at Vandersteen (they have intsructions on how to do this on their web site). When I asked bout upgrading to the metal domes featured in the current products, they transferred my call to Richard Vandersteen. He assured me that for a HT setup where most of the signal goes through the center channel there would be minimal if any issues with having metal domes on the center and surrounds and soft domes on the fronts.

Next weekend I will try pulling apart the Vandersteens and seeing what drives need to be replaced (usually $45 a speaker). Then start putting some money aside for the center and surrounds...
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 2:39 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Lexicon

Ron H: I have no idea whether Cinepro is/is not coming out with a pre/pro. The only thoughts I can add are as follows:

1. There was talk a while back that they were but I have nbo idea what happened.

2. There timing would be questionable as a) they seem to consistently miss delivery dates and b) everyone's pre/pros a late in delivery (i.e. Acurus, Bryston, Meridian, Theta, etc.).

3. They have been very good tro work with recently. I have received a number of follow up e-mails from Eric himself.

4. I would, depending on $$$ and sound quality, consider dumping the Lexicon in favour of a Cinepro. The $$$ in the Lexicon are huge with no foreseeable (sp?) end in sight.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:34 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
remotes

RickMTB: No problem!!! I love this remote. For what it can do, it's a steal at $30. The only drawback of any remote like this, is that you can't rename the buttons like you can on a pronto, or many other lcd-based displays (even the marantz 2000 had some renamable buttons). So, if you don't use the remote much, you'll forget what button does what. But if you use it a lot, you'll love it. If you do pick it up, and need any advice on programming it etc., let me know (you too JJ, for the C7... they're similar enough). But most everything should be on that web site. The key in getting everything programmed that you want, is memory budgeting. There's a limited amount of memory, so you want to use as many "advanced codes" as possible, because they don't use as much memory as "learned funcitions" do.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:31 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JJ: The Cinema7 can do everything that the RS 15-1994 can do. Inside, they are the same remote. I just MUCH prefer the look, feel, layout, and backlighting of the RS version, that's all. The Cinema7 should serve you fine. And, I think it's a bit cheaper, too, isn't it? If you decide you like the look, etc. of the RS better, you can always return the OFA c7.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.77 ) at 2:29 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Lexicon

JBC: "Say, is Cinepro coming out with a pre/pro?
Are they?
Ron H ( 63.44.127.77 ) at 2:28 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JBC: You know, one of the key reasons for he Lexicon purchase for me was the forum for support. It seems we should be able to ask not only technical questions but ask and make suggestions on how their dealer network is servicing us.

I know in my business I want to know if one of our retailers is not properly trained or we have some areas that we do not have enough dealers carrying our products.

If one lives in a vacuum with no input from the end user he/they are doomed to fail. This is most important when a companty is dealing in a premium product vs a mass produced product.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 2:23 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Lexicon

Ron H: I am happy you agree. I really did not think that I was either "out-of-bounds" or rude. Moreover, I would think that Lexicon would be interested in a) dealing with issues and b) letting consumers know that they had been addressed as:

i) It further strengthens their customer support; and
ii) It increases local sales.

That said, I gave up after the second tongue lashing from Philip. Say, is Cinepro coming out with a pre/pro?
Ron H ( 63.44.127.77 ) at 2:17 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JBC: YIKES!!!!!!

I am impressed at how well you kept your cool. One would think that Philip was a employee of Lexicon with the defensive manner he responded to you.

Lexicon needs to consider that even though they do not sponsor that forum, that the manner in which some of the senior members react to postings can and will effect future purchases.

As a Lexicon owner I find it left a bad taste in my mouth. You asked a fair question and voiced a reasonable concern. The limited/protected dealer network Lexicon and others have used in the past is a antiquanted business model in this day and age.

Hmmmm where is my Tag literature.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 1:55 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Lexicon owners: The disagreement is under the thread titled "ADC update/5126 serial pre-req for v4/DTS."
Ron H ( 63.44.127.77 ) at 1:54 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JBC: I am trying to get away with one pair of Scripts on this deal.

I will use the other pair of Scripts as leverage in a possible Logo upgrade.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.77 ) at 1:52 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Hopefully I will be able to gicve your son some business. I have the speaker deal working and I also am looking at some new cabinets/racks to house my equipment.

Is there anyone in the local area that has a Pioneer RP that is looking for two matching high Gloss black A/V cabinets? These are the AV/ cabiniet made by Pioneer to go beside their RPs.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 1:52 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: Is that one or two pair of scripts?
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 1:51 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: Good luck. Keep us posted. For interested Lexicon owners feel free to meander over to SMR and review the arguement that Philip and I are having over the issue of local customer support/dealer network. As a result of his tingue lashing I have left SMR -- FOR GOOD!
Ron H ( 63.44.127.77 ) at 1:47 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

I just put a phone call in to my dealer. I offered to pick up a set of Ascents and a set of Scripts if they will take my SL3's in trade. I await a call back.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 1:41 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Crap. I picked up the Cinema7. I'll see. It really needs to be very basic, yet advanced. All my mother Mother-in-Law needs is to change the channels on the tv, change the volume (receiver), Play a dvd or tape. The advanced part is switching from watching TV to DVD video input, audio input, etc. UNless I rewire my whole system, this is better left to a macro. Hopefully the c7 will work for me (if I decide to keep it)

But thanks guys for your input
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 1:38 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Pronto

JJ: I had my brand new, just out of the box, Pronto sitting on top of my computer. As I was reaching behind the 'puter to plug the Pronto in I pulled on the cord and the remote went crashing down behind the pc, down the desk and onto the floor. Scared the living crap outta me when I pulled it back out and nothing appeared to be working.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 1:37 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
remotes

Kieran: wow, thats a pretty impressive remote 9and site) for the money. I think I will go over to RS and buy one! Thanks!!
Ron H ( 63.44.127.77 ) at 1:33 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

RickMTB: Good luck on your ride.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 1:29 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: No need to kick yourself. I would have loved going to the Shell Open this year, but I will be slowly pedalling from Houston to Austin this weekend, riding the MS150 benefit ride. Thanks for thinking of me anyway.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 1:16 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JBC: Yes, the entire concept of the mortgage industry THREE MONTHS AGO anticipating the approximately 1% cut the fed has done in increments is ludicrous. What do they know that Wall Street doesn't? Just silly.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 1:12 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JohnO: And they never will! That is, you will never see mortgage rates drop by more that the drop in the Fed. Doing so would cut into bank/SL profits.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 1:10 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H, JJ: The whole "mortgage rate has already anticipated that rate cut" story that the mortgage industry puts out is pure BS in my humble opinion. Did they drop interest rates a whole point more than the fed did last time? No, of course not. So what is the basis for these stories, other than they want to make extra money? Has the mortgage industry EVER dropped their rates more than the fed? I think not.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.201 ) at 12:54 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

RickMTB: Shell Houston= Shell Houston Open
Ron H ( 63.44.128.201 ) at 12:51 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JJ: You more than likely wil not see a rate change in home loans. It seems that the rates are already set in anticipation of the up coming rate cut. The last .5 rate drop changed rates very little. IMHO
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:49 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BIG AL: BTW, if you're only going by what RS tells you the remote can do, its no wonder you didn't find the 15-1994 as a learning¯o capable remote. The RS info on their remotes is pathetic, no offense. If you only went by the owner's manual that came with the remote, you'd never utilize 80% of the functionality of the remote. Sad, but true. If you buy the 15-1994, JJ, definitely ignore the owner's manual, and use the web site I posted instead.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.201 ) at 12:47 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

RickMTB: LOL he would never return if we held a meet in August.

You may kick me but I just turned down a set of tickets for the Shell Houston. IOne of my vendors called and offered them. After I hung up I thought of you and that you may have wanted to go. Please tell me you already had plans this weekend!!!!!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 12:46 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BIG AL, & JJ: When I said do not get the OFA remote, I meant the Cinema7. The one Big Al is talking about is different, I think. Although I still don't like their design & ergonomics.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:43 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
remotes

JJ: DO NOT get the One For All remote. The Rat Shack version is WAY better, IMHO. Not that the OFA is crap or anything, they both are functionally the same, but the button layout and design is way better on the RS, the remote's body is cooler looking, more ergonomic, and the buttons are backlit (OFA buttons are not back lit, and only a few are glow in the dark). Plus, the OFA has those cheesy number buttons that are actually shaped like numbers... yuck. HERE is the link to the RS remote, model number 15-1994. This thing is definitely the best bang for the buck for remotes BAR NONE (including Cre$tron & Pronto since the RS is only $30). IMHO, of course... It learns, has tons of pre-programed functions (I think I only had to use the learn function for ONE function for my whole HT) and does macros, too. The only thing it lacks is a little lcd display to tell you a few key things like what mode it's in, etc. Otherwise it's great!

Check out this site for a full account of and instructions on all the things you can do with this (and the OFA equiv.) remote. Most people don't even need the learning function, due to the "advanced codes" feature.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:31 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JJ; There's a new OneForAll that does both plus 7 day timed macros. I can't get the model #, but DBL carries them. www.dbldistributing.com retail is $59.99 It's an 8 device, and the old 8 device did everything but the timed macro for $52.90
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 12:30 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
1/2 point

Oh that's on short-term rate. Does that effect mortgages?
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 12:29 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Another half point huh? That's good for me, now that I'm looking for a house. However, I hear it still a Sellers' Market, especially in the area/price range I'm looking at.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 12:28 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BIG AL: Thanks bud. I didn't see anything on the web. I'm going to see what Best Buy has at lunch (in 10 minutes)
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:20 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JBC; The new gear is still boxed. I bought the new outlet a couple days ago, but the wife's shower took priority. In one day she moved enough equipment into my bathroom for an army!
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:17 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JJ; Sorry, none of the RatShacks that I can find do both macros and learning. The 7in1 does macros, has a lcd readout, change functions of buttons, IR/RF, backlit/glow buttons, and has a Koool soft suede-like finish for $69.99.
The 6in1 is a learning remote, but doesn't do macros. I'm looking through my other catalogs.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:12 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Curtis; Sounds good! I'll try to keep from "puckering".
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 12:01 PM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: Something I learnt about good demo gear...GRAB IT. This stuff is priced to move and if you wait, you will often lose. Also, given its price point the downside of financial loss should you change your mind is very very small. I learnt my lesson by missing out by one day on a PSIII on audio classics.
Ron H ( 63.44.227.150 ) at 11:50 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BC: Well the Ascent demo's are gone. I need to check with the dealer on a trade. Either way it may be too expensive to do all at once.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:40 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

on the other hand, I guess the fed reduced another 1/2 point. Stocks are creeping up today. still gonna take a while.
Ron H ( 63.44.227.150 ) at 11:20 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BC: I hear ya on the market.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 11:19 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

JBC: Ron... teach him the true joy of Houston and schedule the next Meet for August...
AVB ( 64.41.33.172 ) at 11:16 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
PowerPro 30

JBC: Mine still hums but not that badly with the fans from the amps, the DTC100 and projector noise. It did seen to quiet down some with the 30amp dedicated line.
AVB ( 64.41.33.172 ) at 11:08 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Video

CuRTis: Nothing in 1080P, the demo was at 960P for the Quadscan and 1280x1024P for the CI and the Rock.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 10:56 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: i want my trip to Houston. Go get the speakers!!! LOL.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:53 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: I hope your not waiting for the market to turn around to fund those speakers. Could be a long wait!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.176 ) at 10:28 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Video

AVB: So the hype turned out to be true on the Rock after all, eh? I certainly trust your eyes. The new wheels and Uncle Sam set me back quite a bit so I may have to pay to higher price down the road. Did you happen to see anything in 1080p?

Darian: I picked up the HT issue last night. Not exactly a rave, was it? The convergence issue is a huge mystery to me too. The best part of direct views is convergence rarely needs touching. I'm guessing he meant geometry was out of whack. The interesting thing is that my display doesn't show most of the problems that everyone else seems to have.

Or perhaps my eyes are shot?
Ron H ( 63.232.70.243 ) at 10:13 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BC: More like waiting for money to buy the speakers. LOL
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 10:12 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BC: You bet!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:10 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

What's that? The 4th annual Intl. HTOC meet at Ron's house is coming up?
Just waiting for speakers, huh?
Darian ( 66.44.10.181 ) at 9:29 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Holy $h!+!!! I have 21 days to return one or the other. Well I guess it makes sure I have an adequate chance to make sure the new one works. The first one was manufactured in Jan and this one is manufactured in Feb. Well I know what I will spend my morning doing.
Darian ( 66.44.10.181 ) at 9:23 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

New projector just arrived. If only HT companies took care of problems so quickly!!!
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 9:14 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BIG AL: Speaking of you, how is all that Cinepro gear working out?
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 9:14 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Pronto

JJ: The Rat Shack ones have both learning and macro capability (I think). Perhaps our pal BIG AL: can provide a few item numbers that you can check out on the web.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 9:11 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Pronto

I think I'm going to pick up another universal. I need learning and macro. One for all has a few me thinks
Ron H ( 63.44.128.200 ) at 8:52 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Pronto

JJ: I find that some times when I drop my Pronto it will reset itself. It alsways comes back up but does give one a fright.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 8:47 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Ron H: Let me know when you get the new Ascents, Theater and two sets of Scripts hooked up. That would definitely require a second trip to Houston and the fourth international HTOC meeting.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 8:43 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Pronto

JJ: If you want something cheap, functional and shock proof I would recommend the Rat Shack remotes. My folks have two and they work great. The red back lit controls are particularly cool.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.200 ) at 8:42 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
ML Speakers

JBC: "Now, if you really wanted to puch the envelope, let's talk about returning the Logos for the Theater"

It did enter my mind.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 8:41 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Pronto

Any of you Pronto owners: do you find the remote very sensitive to shock? a short fall shuts mine down.
The baby dropped it today (not the first time). My mother-in-law is scared it is permanently damaged. I need to pick up something cheaper for my mil and baby to break.
Darian ( 66.44.10.181 ) at 8:35 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

DiSH Network finally got a new HD demo loop yesterday. This loop looks much better with the exception of a indoor basketball game where the gym is yellow. The out door sceens look great!
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 8:25 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

AVB: You have e-mail.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 8:14 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
PowerSUPPLY III

AVB: Well I heard back from the dealer who was to sell me the PoserSUPPLY III for US$450 until he "magically" discovered that the LED lights do not work. We all surmised that someone had scooped it from under my nose because they offered more money. The latest is that they have contacted Cinepro and are trying to get it fixed/replaced in order to honor their commitment. I will believe it if and when I see the unit.
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 8:04 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Good mornin everyone.

AVB: I too saw the Audiogon posting of the PP30. I am looking for a PP20 and PSIII for now -- primarily because of the PP30 noise factor. Also, this seems to be the modified PP30 which has previously been for sale as there are two additional outlets. That said, the search continues.

cai, Tony C.: Regarding alarm systems, I would also suggest a hard wired carbon monoxide sensor. I have three of these. One in the basement near the furnance room and one on each floor. Another useful option is a tempurature monitor in the furnace room. The theory is that a cold furnance room indicates a furnance breakdown which can lead to frozen pipes (which is huge $$$ to fix). The one time this kicked in I was away and it may have saved big $$$. The annual monitoring fee, about US$175, is IMHO money well spent.
Darian ( 66.44.10.181 ) at 7:51 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

TonyC: Thanks for the fax. I am finally regaining some faith in HomeTheater Mag. If I saw another Merson/Churen style review of the Sampo I was going to do a letter to the editor. They picked up on a lot of my gripes. However this CONVERGANCE THING. How do you converge a direct view set? You have to take off the back and move the magnets on the tube right?
AVB ( 64.41.32.210 ) at 7:39 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Welcome to the AVB morning show.
AVB ( 64.41.32.210 ) at 7:38 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Video

CuRTis: I don't know where you are with your video processor search but after seeing a Rock from TAW it is a great unit. I did a head to head with my CI and a Quadscan and it was a clear winner. I haven't seen the Vigatec but the Rock provides a great upgrade path. I'd get one before the end of the month so you can get the intro price of $3k before it jumps on May 1st. JMHO.
AVB ( 64.41.32.210 ) at 7:32 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
PowerPro 30

JBC: PowerPro 30 on audiogon. http://gonmain.iserver.net/cgi-bin/auc.pl?accspowr&988679695&item
AVB ( 64.41.32.210 ) at 6:11 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
La Crosse WI

Gar: Jeez, I was there for the floods of '90 and it wasn't anything like that. How are the bridges holding up?
Gar ( 169.207.194.217 ) at 3:23 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
Color Prontos, oh joy!!

Just saw one of these demoed at a local store, pretty cool looking and easier to program from what the rep said....
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.223 ) at 2:43 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Scott "popcorn": Oh I'm already well past mad. Let me shut down these 2 dot-bombs and I'll get to you ASAP.

Big Al: A belated happy birthday - what was that, #26? The wait may be worth it. I THINK (won't believe it til I see it) the notebooks coming out of the new place are better/faster/ with DVD drives than what you wanted, at the same price.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.223 ) at 2:38 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

Well nothing on at my place tonight. I finally get the chance to sit down to relax to either the KQED Nova broadcast, a HD repeat of The Sopranos (I missed Sunday because I was out of town) or the chance to watch Barry Bonds hit HR #500 vs. the Dodgers on the local digital station.
Alas, all power goes dead. A California rolling blackout? Nope. Seems that a main power wire down the block rubbed its pole the wrong way one too many times & poof! It's still down.

I walk into the local microbrewery and 30 seconds later Bonds rips #500 into the bay. No it wasn't in HD or even digital anything. Great moment none the less.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.108 ) at 2:11 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001

BIG AL: I think between you and I we're going to drive poor CuRTis mad
Gar ( 169.207.194.217 ) at 2:09 AM EST Wednesday, April 18, 2001
La Crosse WI

AVB:remember French Island? It's under about 4 1/2 feet of water... Driving through the area and it is the worst flooding they have seen in 100 years.
Gasgeek ( 209.178.178.73 ) at 11:56 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Tony C: The name of the Gallo like round satellite speakers that I was talking about is Morel. They've made car speakers and DIY speakers for years. The little Gallo killers are really nice. The price is $300, $400 and $600 a pr. The $600 is a round midrange with a soft dome tweeter on top ala B&W. If you've never seen the Acoustic Energy aEGO 2, Here is the website. The satellites are smaller than Bose and the sub is powered. $599 for the set. They're nearly invisible in a room but fill it up. My buddy has a set sitting on top of a pair of $1200 Tannoy's with the sub inconspicuous. Most people have to walk up to them before they figure out it's not the bigger speakers playing.

http://aego2.acoustic-energy.co.uk/intro/framset.html
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.147 ) at 11:30 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Curtis; Glad to see you had a well deserved fun weekend. Too bad you had to come back to news of more work, but hey, that's job security. Any chance of solving that problem this week?
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.242 ) at 10:54 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Kieran: I'll assume that you're asking who they are. 75% of the polo team. Too bad they didn't win the finals yet just as well because they would have been creamed by the team that won it all. Amazing how much better a team gets when the play every day vs. a few times a year. It was great fun win or lose - in fact the last game was a tie.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:49 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Alarm Systems

cai: Well I pay $240 a year for monitoring, but I can discontinue the monitoring at any time. Then I would just have an expensive noise maker.
And honestly, the only reason I do keep the monitoring service is for fires. Like Curtis suggested, I also included fire alarms which make a call even if we are not home. But if it ever got to be too expensive, I can just quit the monitoring.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.242 ) at 10:18 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
the power's out

A big power line crashed into a tree accross the street a few hours ago. It set the tree on fire (minor) and a half dozen fire trucks arrived in no time. I unplugged everything expecting a surge when they made the repair and turned the juice back on.

Now it's all off again as I type this on my notebook. Just in time to likely miss seeing Barry Bonds hit his 500th HR too.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.242 ) at 10:15 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Alarm Systems

cai: The monitoring service charges never end and they have been known to increase rather than decrease. If you're going to do it I would also have them install smoke/fire detectors.

I have lived in 2 houses with fancy hard wired systems, Westinghouse & ADT. I suppose they were a success as no bad guys ever broke in. False alarms by my kids, houseguests & me got so frequent that the local cops started charging $100 per event. We ended up shutting the whole thing off.

Kieran can tell you my current Mickey Mouse security system details. My daughter hooked it up.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:36 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

cai: I have had both wireless and hard wired alrms. After months of frustration with the wireless alarm I had it ripped out. I now have a wired alarm and will never go woreless. Moreover, I can control my alarm with my Crestron. It is sooooooo kool. For example, I have a graphic of my keypad which shows the status because the keypad is bidirectional!
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 9:16 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Darian's New Toy

Darian: You have just earned yourself an "A" for this clear and concise report. I guess it is not too hot if you can hold this unit in your hand while it is running and not burn yourself.

The question about the rainbow effect is that some people can see it and others cannot. Can you see it and how distracting is it to you while watching a movie or a program?

cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 9:04 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Alarm Systems

Tony C: I just got in the mail a flier special from ADT. The thing I do not like about ADT is that one has to keep paying about $370.00 year after year. It becomes very expensive to maintain. The reason I may want to go the hard wire way is because I tried the Radio Shack wireless system and was thoroughly disappointed. This system was very temperamental and the batteries ran out too often. I figure a hard wired system to be more reliable in transmitting signals.

What I have in mind is going to be very simple in logic and execution. Run wires from the particular module to a central location where the control module is located. From there send an alarm to a horn and possibly a telphone relay system. I am still thinking about it and maybe I will
install motion detectors to alarm away intruders before they get close enough to break open any windows or doors.

Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.93 ) at 8:42 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

hmmmmmmf!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:28 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Darian: I faxed the article.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 8:24 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

CuRTis: gotta love that variable timing! Sounds fun. Congrats again!

...WHAT 3 women????
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.52 ) at 8:09 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Kieran: They both work. The hotter valve timing kicks in at 4,800RPM and just howls to 7K. Thank god the speed limiter works. The car reminds me of a sportbike that just gets better planted with speed. Solid brakes obviously came in handy.

Amazingly quiet interior even at speed. The stereo is superb, very tight sub. Carries me + 3 women very comfortably
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:56 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

CuRTis: glad to hear you're ticket free... So, does the rev/speed limiter work, or did you not find out?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 7:54 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
OT MTB stuff

RickMTB: Thanks for the email. Very helpful info.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:30 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
ML Speakers

Ron H: Unlike the last time, they should let you trade up as:

a) You are returning 1 set of speakers and purchasing 3 sets of speakers;
b) The set of Ascents are more costly than the set of SL3s.

To me it is a no brainer.

Now, if you really wanted to puch the envelope, let's talk about returning the Logos for the Theater. Joking
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.52 ) at 7:12 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Hi gang. I think I forgot to mention that I went down to Palm Springs for a longish weekend. It was great, not too hot. Hung out with friends, took tons of photos/ videos and managed a few sets of tennis. Kieran will be glad to know that I didn't get any speeding tickets though I deserved one or two!

The hard part is re-entry back to the real world. My main client tells me this morning that 2 more dot-com leesee's went out of biz since last Friday. Here we go again.
Ron H ( 63.59.201.228 ) at 7:06 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
ML Speakers

JBC: Not a bad idea. I need to check to see if they will honor my trade up as I have already done it once and I am a few months past the date.
Ron H ( 63.59.201.228 ) at 7:02 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

JBC:I believe Darian is refering to the projector having sync problems with the input.
johnbr ( 24.112.158.247 ) at 6:23 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Hi hope you all had a good long weeked.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:12 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
ML Speakers

Ron H: Here is another permutation -- sell/trade in SL3s, ascients for L/R, Scripts for sides and rears. This would be my choice (as I am spending your $$$ and not mine). What do you think?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:08 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Tony C; That would be good if you could fax the review over. I wonder if Merson wrote this one too?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:59 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
No Bose

Thanks for the info guys. That's the kind of stuff I was looking for.
They have a small Manhattan Apt. so I'll steer them into somthing cool.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.93 ) at 5:59 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Darian's New Toy

Darian: So, what you're trying to say is you like it?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:39 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Darian's New Toy

cai:
1.- Did you get the NEC-LT 150 DLP?
2.- How is the screen door in this projector, how far away from the screen do you have to sit for this effect to disappear?
3.- How strongly would you recommend a DLP, LCD, or DILA, in lieu of a CRT?
4.- Have you ever seen a DILA projector that has beeen properly calibrated, what are your impressions versus the DLP?
5.- Do you notice the rainbow effect, and when does this happen?
6.- Is it very noisy, or how noisy is it? Like a computer?
7.- Is there a light leakage issue, can it be plugged?
8.- Does this projector get very hot does it need a special housing?


1. Uhh huh.
2. You have to get pretty close to the screen to see the grid. Talking like 2 or 3 feet on a 60 inch image. Much smaller than LCDs and closer together.
3. DLP is great if you are going to be viewing things that don't fill up the whole panel. There is no threat of burn in. The bulbs are not real long lasting. This thing wieghs in at under 4 pounds and fits in one paw. Forget convergence, multiple aspect ratio setups, blah blah blah! Point, focus, picture.
4. Only seen a DILA at CES 2000 in JVC booth. Needless to say, it's advanced considerably since then. Cost makes it most prohibitive. That's when you forget about the noise, the heat, the funky lenses, the scaler, the hushbox, etc.
5. yup. Primates' eyes naturally track back and forth and vertically. This helps us to judge distance and depth (one of those hunting things, ya know?). Violently shaking your head about will exacerbate the problem. All you need to do is set the screen size so that it dominates most of your field of view.
6. Not too noisy, but we will be doing some things to make it quieter.
7. Si y oui. Construction paper and matte knife cured the problem in less than five minutes. You could take this a step further by specifically cutting out specific croppings.
8. Very is a relative term. I can pick it up with the thing on and not burn myself. How hot are we talking about here?
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 5:36 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Joe: Never having had children I can't possibly imagine what kind of stress all that put you two in. Good luck and I hope all goes well.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 5:09 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Ron H: Coolio... I am glad it was something simple. Also glad to hear it was unrelated to the hardware...
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:46 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Alarm Systems

cai: You really want hard wired? I mean, I have hard wired from Sonitrol, which was pretty expesive to install and I guess still expensive to maintain, with the monitoring and all.
A friend, who just bought a townhouse, put in ADT. It's wireless, so install is very cheap, and it's way better than the X-10 or radio shack stuff.
If you still want to DIY, go to smarthome.com. They have lots of materials to choose from including HVAC stuff.
Joe ( 64.12.102.172 ) at 4:36 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Afternoon all,

It has been a interesting few days. On Thursday my wife went in for the monthly ultrasound at 10:30. At 3:00 she called me from the Labor/deliveray floor at the hositpal. Needless to so I was a little axnious, being we still have 8-10 weeeks to go.

The ultrasound person made a bad call, which started a chain of events. The Doctor was considering taking the baby early and wanted a stress test. The nurse had problems getting the stress test " Trace" for the required 20 minutes. This lead to unbelivable amounts of stress. Well those of you that have experiance this will understand the stress levels.

So at 8:30 Thursday night we leave the hositpal after passing 2 test. The other ultrasound tech spent 1.5 hours getting correct readings on the wife and baby.

The next 4 days she spent resting on the couch or bed and trying not to dwell on what could be wrong. Monday we go to the doctors. He runs another stress test and sits up a second opinion on Thursday. Then he pulls her out of work until after the baby is born. So we are both at home, I am still trying to find work after several good interviews and waiting. She gets disability and money is tight.

Then last night, the stomach pains start around 1 am. That goes on most of the night until this morning. She was freaked about that, however the Salsa and Fried chicken cravings are gone, that seems to be the culprit there.

So it looks like we could have one anyday or make it the next 8 weeks. There are more tests on Thursday and then stress test twice a week. The ambulance base is up to speed in case we need them, one advantage of the family owning the local EMS. Now it's just waiting.

There I am done rambling
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:33 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Tony C: I would add PSB to the list.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 3:30 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Tony C: If you're talking about small stereo speakers, The Aegis AEGO II (?) Powered sub, small (Bose) size speakers are incredible. There is also a new line of round speakers (very similar to Gallo), I believe they are called Merli, but I can't swear by that. My dealer just got them in. They range from $400 to $600 a pair. I have heard the $600 matched with a Velodyne HGS 10 and it was a killer combo. I will double check on the name. If you are looking at surround systems, then Aegis, Tannoy, NHTm Paradigms and the other assorted suggestions that we usually suggest here. Obviously, match these with your favorite receiver, Marantz, Denon, Outlaw, etc., and a DVD player of choice. All will kill the Bose animal.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 3:00 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

JBC: And in case you were wondering specifically how well the date went while AT THE MOVIE, .... we were both too interested in the movie for THAT!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:58 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
No Bose

Tony C: AFAIK, www.soundpros.com still has the take5+es8 set in stock for $595 delivered.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:57 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
No Bose

Tony C: First, Take5's are getting hard to find, as they've stopped production of them. Second, I don't care for the Sonys. They are less expensive than Bose LS/AM crap, but they don't sound much better. Third, Velodyne also has a sat system out now. I haven't heard it, but they may be worth checking out.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:53 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

JBC: Did I say it was a date? My memory is going... that movie must have influenced me more than I thought (watch the movie to get this joke). Anyway, it went well. Turns out that "joe" from last week really is just a friend (my sister met him and confirmed this... I trust her judgement). This girl is just one of those women who has more guy friends than female friends. This is good in that it's easier to be yourself, but bad in that it's hard to guage just how "interested" the girl is. If a girl who usually spends most of her free time with other girls is spending a lot of time w/ you, well then, that means something, but if the girl NORMALLY spends her free time with guys, then... it's a little less clear! But things are going well so far. I'm certain that she's up for another date, at least. After that, well, we'll see...
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 2:50 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Ron H: You can actually correct the sync problem with the Lexicon MC-1 as there is a parameter that adjusts this.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.185 ) at 2:41 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Darian: I had sync problems with my DreamVision also. I had thought that maybe it was releated to the QuadScan but maybe it was a combo of both.

Glad to hear it all is looking so good.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 2:28 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Darian's New Toy

Darian:
1.- Did you get the NEC-LT 150 DLP?
2.- How is the screen door in this projector, how far away from the screen do you have to sit for this effect to disappear?
3.- How strongly would you recommend a DLP, LCD, or DILA, in lieu of a CRT? 4.- Have you ever seen a DILA projector that has beeen properly calibrated, what are your impressions versus the DLP?
5.- Do you notice the rainbow effect, and when does this happen?
6.- Is it very noisy, or how noisy is it? Like a computer?
7.- Is there a light leakage issue, can it be plugged?
8.- Does this projector get very hot, does it need a special housing?

Please do not answer yes, no, yes, maybe, etc.

Thank you.

cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 2:16 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Alarm Systems

I am trying to hard-wire-alarm my home's windows and doors, possibly link everything with the thermostat and whatever else those alarms systems link. What make of alarm systems does anyone recommend? I am looking for something that is probably a bit more sophisticated than what X-10 or Home Automation has to offer. The Radio Shack wireless units are not in the running at this time. I had one of those and it was almost worthless. I could also add remote monitoring cameras for the back yard and front of the house.

Thank you.

Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:14 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Darian: Just saw the number. If someone doesn't get to it today, I'll get it tonight.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:07 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
No Bose

On of my VPs just called for advice on a new system. Naturally, she was thinking of Bose, which was easy to discourage.
Take Five, Energy Encore, Atlantic Tech, Mirage, The cool little sonys, Onkyo has a new system.
What else?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:05 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Darian: I have it at home. Can fax it later tonight.
Got a number?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.93 ) at 2:05 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Ron H: I would have never thought that would be the culprit...
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 1:25 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Kieran: More importantly, how was the date?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 1:09 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Memento

...is a new independent film. I just saw it on Sunday, and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's a great thriller, with a fairly original way of story telling. Guy Pearce (Rules of Engagement, LA Confidential), Carrie-Anne Moss (Trinity from The Matrix), and Joe Pantoliano, ("Ralphy" from The Sopranos), are the main stars. I higly recommend this film.
Joe ( 205.188.198.176 ) at 1:00 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Darian, did you get a a NEC projector?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:21 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Ron: Got to watch the chase seen from MI2 last night. It was jaw dropping. Having a few sync issues that I am trying to work out. Called NEC and asked them about it. Their responce. we will send you a new one by tomorrow morning.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:18 PM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Can someone fax me the Sampo review. 707-215-0703
Ron H ( 63.44.128.2 ) at 10:55 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

The problem appeared tio be that I had no browser set as a default browser. Went to internet options,then programs, next I reset web settings and told IE to check whether it is the default browser. I am now back.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.2 ) at 10:51 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

I have fixed it.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.2 ) at 10:51 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Hmmmmm
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 10:07 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: No Problem. I don't know if that model interests you, but I see ML, I think: Ron H
Ron H ( 63.232.94.160 ) at 9:09 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Martin Logan Owners

RickMTB: I will try you tommorow.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 9:07 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Martin Logan Owners

Ron H: I am in an off-site meeting today and a meeting regarding the MS150 tonight. I should be fairly "reachable" tomorrow if you want me to tell you my work system (Armada M700 running Windows 2000... I am guessing you are running 2K at work?)...
Ron H ( 63.232.94.160 ) at 9:05 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Martin Logan

JJ: Thanks for the info.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 8:41 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: www.harveyelectronics.com check the renovation sale.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 7:52 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Good mornin yall,
Ron, 38 of da 40 is in my dally vocabularry!
JBC ( 207.164.221.151 ) at 7:46 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Good morning all.

Ron H: I am dying of laughter!
Ron H ( 63.232.69.105 ) at 5:35 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Curtis: There is a review of the Sampo in the current HT Mag.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.2 ) at 12:18 AM EST Tuesday, April 17, 2001

Joe; Thanks for the Moen link!
Rich F ( 172.155.236.28 ) at 11:42 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Robert

Just saw your response to my M12s. I also have a pair of L400 in-wall speakers that I have replaced three times with Rat Shack inwalls each time I have moved. I wouldn't leave the 400s in the wall. I love the soft dome Tweeters on the M12s and they are great as rears. Decent base. I had an entire ADS system in my car also when I lived in Boston. I sold them their healthcare and bought everything at accommadation about 15 years ago.
Cytotech ( 12.74.67.212 ) at 10:25 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Joke Of The Day

Ron H: ROTFLMAO!!!
Ron H ( 63.26.163.124 ) at 10:02 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Joke Of The Day

40 things you won't hear from a Southern Male

40. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.
39. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.
38. Duct tape won't fix that.
37. Honey, I think we should sell the pickup and buy a family sedan.
36. Come to think of it, I'll have a martini.
35. We don't keep firearms in this house.
34. Has anybody seen the sideburns trimmer?
33. You can't feed that to the dog.
32. I thought Graceland was tacky.
31. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.
30. Wrestling's fake.
29. Honey, did you mail that donation to Greenpeace?
28. We're vegetarians.
27. Do you think my gut is too big?
26. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.
25. Honey, we don't need another dog.
24. Who gives a damn who won the Civil War?
23. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.
22. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.
21. Spittin' is such a nasty habit.
20. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.
19. Trim the fat off that steak.
18. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.
17. The tires on that truck are too big.
16. I'll have the arugula and radicchio salad.
15. I've got it all on the C: drive.
14. Unsweetened tea tastes better.
13. Would you like your fish poached or broiled?
12. My fiancé, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.
11. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.
10. Little Debbie snack cakes have too many fat grams.
9. Checkmate.
8. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.
7. Does the salad bar have bean sprouts?
6. Hey, here's an episode of "Hee Haw" that we haven't seen.
5. I don't have a favorite college team.
4. Be sure to bring my salad dressing on the side.
3. You All.
2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Darlin'.
1. Nope, no more for me. I'm drivin'
Ron H ( 63.26.163.124 ) at 9:57 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Martin Logan

Chris L.: Thgaks for trying. I have cut my decisin down to the Ascents for the front and move the SL3's to the rear or get the Scripts and add them to the rear or sides. I am not quite sure which location would be best for 7.1/Logic 7 in a 7.1 speaker set up. I guess for almost the cost of the Ascents I could get 2 sets of Scripts. With the soon to appear price increase I need to get moving on this decision.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.124 ) at 9:52 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Martin Logan Owners

RickMTB: I sort of solved the posting problem I bought my laptop to work.
Cytotech ( 12.74.67.212 ) at 9:51 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Happy Birthday Fernando!
(wherever you are....)
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 9:08 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: I checked the local Ensemble HT store today...nothing. Had him call their other store and still nothing. He said I would have a hard time finding them anywhere. Sorry bud.
Joe ( 152.163.195.198 ) at 9:07 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Big Al

Try this page for a start

http://www.moen.com/Consumer/catalog/specpartsearch.cfm
BIG OL' AL ( 204.248.58.245 ) at 7:54 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Joe; My "tits" are fine!
The problem is the center hub of the handle broke. One side of the squared off part broke off, allowing the handle to rotate without turning the valve. When it got around to the opposite side, it caught on that flat spot, so it was backwards. When I took the handle off, all the pieces fell out. The problem will be finding another handle the same size. I have a feeling this is a contractor's piece.
BIG OL' AL ( 204.248.58.245 ) at 7:48 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Fernando; HAPPY B-Day!
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 7:39 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
HDCD

Ha.. I knew it! He didnt believe me.. well, I wasnt certain anyway so its a shallow victory.

wow.. i just read my last post.. confusing..
Thanks for your replys.
Joe ( 64.12.104.36 ) at 6:59 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Now if I wanted to stir things up, I would mention the Vote in Mississippi on Tuesday, but I"ll skip it
Joe ( 64.12.104.36 ) at 6:55 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

JJ,

That was interesting, I might have to check out a few other papers before I write my letter to the editor. I wonder what they did in San Francisco, being a open minded town. I should also check out New York s papers. I
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:53 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Wow, another storm pummeling Houston

RickMTB: wt.net is the only addy I have for you. Should I use a different one during the day?
Joe ( 64.12.104.36 ) at 6:45 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
BC Comic Strip

Ron H: I started the thread and am quick to point out I am not taking a religious stand. I was jsut wondering how different papers handled it in different parts of the country.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 6:36 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Martin Logan Owners

Ron H: Is it safe to guess you have resolved the posting problem at work?
Ron H ( 216.119.162.48 ) at 6:31 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Martin Logan Owners

If you are considering a upgrade or additional speakers I have been told Martin logan is having a price increase in May.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 6:21 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Wow, another storm pummeling Houston

Kieran: No mail yet... unless you are sending it to my home (wt.net) account. I will be here for about 15 more minutes.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 6:20 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Wow, another storm pummeling Houston

Ron H: I have to go to dinner with the boss, a line-of-business director, and an industry analyst tonight (Resa's Steakhouse on 1960). I really like getting free dinners but I would much rather be home early with the storm still raging out here.
Ron H ( 216.119.162.48 ) at 6:08 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Wow, another storm pummeling Houston

RickMTB: Our power has been out for over 1 and 1/2 hours. I sent everyone home. OI will have to stay untill power comes back on to check systems and do the back up. At least I bought my Lap top with me today. I hope the power is on at a reasonable time or it could be a very late night.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:01 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Wow, another storm pummeling Houston

RickMTB: email comming you're way in a couple of minutes...
AVB ( 64.41.33.186 ) at 5:08 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
HDCD

LouV: Scott is correct. There are only a very few receiversor prepros that have HDCD built in them, usually it is in the player which means you have to use the analog outs.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.50 ) at 4:56 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
HDCD

LouV: If the receiver doesn't have an HDCD logo, then you have to use the analog outs of the DVD player with the HDCD logo to get HDCD.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 4:50 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Wow, another storm pummeling Houston

Ron, sending another one your way... big rain and hail hitting us over at 249 and Louetta.
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 4:32 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
HDCD

AVB: This jewel cd I have is HDCD.. do receivers or pre-pros need a certain chip to utilize HDCD.. my friend has a toshiba DVD player with an HDCD logo but he has a standard receiver.. we can definatly hear the difference when we switched the cd from his CD player to the toshiba DVD player but now I'm not sure if its the digital out on the toshiba vs. the analog on his cd player.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 3:35 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
BC Comic Strip

Scott "popcorn", Joe, others: here is the note by the editorial staff of my local paper http://www.bergen.com/news/note15200104159.htm
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 3:14 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Gasgeek: Yes, I did, and I e-mailed him back Sunday morn. Nothing since.
Ron H ( 216.119.163.125 ) at 3:12 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
BC Comic Strip

Scott "popcorn"/All: You know things get pretty hot under the collar here for what seems small reasons. I am suggesting that a religious discussion could really become a wild fire. I am not going to add my comments to this one and I hope some ot you others feel the same.

Of course the forum is open to all comments, but myself I want to remain friends and I am afraid this subject could create some enemies or broken friendships.
AVB ( 64.41.32.178 ) at 2:14 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
HDCD

Derb: I've read that almost a 25-30% of all new CD's are HDCD encoded. I know my indicator lights up quite often.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:12 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

JJ: Did you get the email on Saturday. Apparently my emails with your email address didn't get to my buddy. I sent you one from his home on Saturday.
Joe ( 205.188.195.49 ) at 2:06 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

There was one local Jewish leader that said. " It is a attemp to trivilize the holocoust..."

Before this gets out of hand, please notice that I have not stated my religion or taken a side. I am just trying to get a feel fro how it was presented in other parts of the country.
Joe ( 205.188.195.49 ) at 2:03 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
JJ

That is interesting. I wonder who owns the paper, It might be a case of the owner finding the first admendment only applies if they (owners) are not offended.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.50 ) at 1:53 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
BC Comic Strip

Joe, JJ, others: I find this really interesting... I didn't see anything wrong with the strip (our paper ran it unscathed)... And by "pulling" it, it seems to me that it's not only an infringement on freedom of speech, but also freedom of religion. One other note... Why aren't the Jews up in arms about all the jokes that they are the "butt" of?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.50 ) at 1:49 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Ron H: Just out of curiosity, have you checked the Network settings? (under the Control Panel?) I find it odd that both browsers are doing the same thing... having thought about it, it sounds like a global network config problem...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.50 ) at 1:47 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

It might have jump or worn out the tits.
Do I see a new "memorable quote"?
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 1:36 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
BC Comic Strip

Joe: My local paper pulled the Sunday Comics (which is normally delivered Sat) and reprinted the funnies section without the strip in question. Cost them quite a bit of money, tho they did save money by printing only the outside pages in color. This is the big northern nj paper.
Derb ( 205.218.118.139 ) at 1:22 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
HDCD

LouV: I have come across one CD that triggered my HDCD processor chip in my Pre-Pro. I liked the disk, and thought that it was recorded well. I wish more would use the HDCD format. You will have to have the chip in the source or in the pre-pro, I prefer all my processing to be done externally from the source/transport.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:06 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Joe: Some papers print a Sunday paper on Friday's for those who are just looking for the fluff or filler stuff. They obviously don't print the Sunday news (which is too bad because we'd know who won the games early), but they have things like funnies, TV Times, Parade, adds, Calenday etc. That might be where the folks up in arms got hold of the info. Just a guess.
Joe ( 205.188.199.21 ) at 12:58 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
BC Comic Strip

In yestedays paper there was a BC strip about Easter. It had Jewish tones to it. My local paper had a reponse from local jewish leaders complaining about the strip on the front page. They also had a letter to the editor from a Rabbi complaining.

I sent the paper a e-mail asking how they could have this information before the paper came out, unless the paper decidedr to make a story.

I was wondering if any of you in your part of the country, had a Jewish response in the local papers to the BC comic strip?
BAGMAN ( 205.245.5.213 ) at 12:43 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

T-Man: Happy B'Day, go buy that HDTV!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:39 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Happy B-day Fernando.
Ron - of course the settings are the same! hehe
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:23 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Big Al:A belated Happy Birthday to you!
Fernando:Happy Birthday to you, too! Where ever you are!
Ron H ( 63.232.65.238 ) at 12:02 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

I may need to go make a HT purchase so I will feel better.
Ron H ( 63.232.65.238 ) at 12:01 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Well I have to send these damn taxes along with a check out in the mail today.
Ron H ( 63.232.65.238 ) at 12:00 PM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Big Al

Joe:I hate when that happens.
Ron H ( 63.232.65.238 ) at 11:59 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

I bcan not find any settings different between my LP and my work computer. Hmmmmmm.
Joe ( 64.12.104.51 ) at 11:54 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Big Al

Hey I have a Moen in my other bathroom. There is a little platic piece inside, under the cover. It should have 130 degree or so of travel. There are a set of positive stops. that stop the travel. It might have jump or worn out the tits.
Ron H ( 63.232.65.238 ) at 11:44 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Darian:

you have mail.
BIG OL' AL ( 204.248.58.203 ) at 10:19 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Joe; It's a Moen.
Joe ( 64.12.105.24 ) at 9:34 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Big AL

Would you believe I have similair valves. I have Paul Classics & Grhoe (sp). Mine are on all the way as soon as you turn them on. As you continue to turn Counter Clockwise the temperture of the water increases.

They are suppose to be Hot first then colder as you turn them. However I had the plumber switch the pipes so no one would get scalled.

Anyways you probabley have a cartridge inside of it. What kind of valve is it?
AVB ( 64.41.32.154 ) at 7:57 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001
Trivia answer

I won 14 American League Championship rings with the New York Yankees, 13 as a player and one as a Manager, As the Manager of the New York Mets I won a National League Championship ring. I also won 10 World Series rings with the Yankees. Who am I? Yogi Berra.
AVB ( 64.41.32.154 ) at 7:49 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

JBC: I waited 3 weeks Any advertising is good for both of us I figure. No leads at all on this but there is always a chance.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:38 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

AVB: Nice guy... now you are posting against me on Audiogon (and probably elesewhere too). Point me to your leftovers.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:56 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Good morning everyone.
BIG OL' AL ( 204.248.58.218 ) at 12:16 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

Time to hit the sack. I get to play plumber tomorrow. The strangest thing happened this morning. The faucet in my wife's shower is a single handle type. Down is off, then as you turn clockwise it goes from cold to hot, straight up being hottest. This morning, it was off in the down position, but when my wife turned it clockwise to start the flow of water, nothing came out. She turned it counter-clockwise back to the off position, and water started to flow. Turned it to on, and water shuts off. Very strange! I'm hoping it's a cartridge type, and the cartridge broke free, and turned 180 from normal. At least that's what I'm hoping. Otherwise, with no access to the valve, it'll be major surgery!
BIG OL' AL ( 204.248.58.218 ) at 12:09 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

LouV; There's also LP.
BIG OL' AL ( 204.248.58.218 ) at 12:07 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

The only HT related gift I got, was Ducati World Racing Challenge for the Dreamcast. I haven't played it, or read anything about it, but it looks promising. I also got a VERY nice "law enforcement/military only" type gift for my collection. ;P;P
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 12:04 AM EST Monday, April 16, 2001

True.. very true.

Theres alot of different formats.. HDCD (i think its called) SACD, DTS and DVD Audio.. or is there more than that? Would HDCD just be considered a "bonus feature" since its on a regular CD? Just wondering, we dont have to talk about this anymore if you guys dont wanna. heh-heh
BIG OL' AL ( 204.248.58.218 ) at 11:59 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

Thanks to everyone for the b-day well wishes! Even though my b-days are notorious for going terribly wrong(as the oldsters here know too well), this one went relatively smoothly. Had to do a little emergency work at home after work, but the wife made an excellent supper, which I enjoyed while watching The Perfect Storm, and drinking an entire bottle of Italian red that I've aged for about 10 years. I offered the wife $15 for a lap dance, but was unceremoniously refused.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.167 ) at 11:58 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

BIG AL: Good call, Mr. Big. As for me (if anyone wants my opinion)... I think DVD-A won't make it big... The average joe won't hear the difference on his K-mart blue light special speakers, and will stick with CD (CD is a lot better in the music world than VHS was in the video world)... Frankly, I think DVD-A is going overboard. I think a *reasonable* update of the CD spec is more marketable than DVD-A... like, up the CD spec to handle 20 or 24 bits, and up the sampling rate to 48kHz, and have provisions for compressed (perhaps even lossless) multichannel. But 6 channels of 96kHz at 24 bits is a waste, IMO.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.218 ) at 11:52 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

LouV; Wait till the players are cheaper, and more importantly, till there's enough software to make it worthwhile.
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 11:07 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Scott "popcorn": thanks.. its clear to me now. Hmmm... I'm wondering if its worth getting a DVD-A compatible player now or if I should just wait until they get cheaper.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.167 ) at 11:02 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Ron H: Is that chip available yet?
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.57 ) at 10:42 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
Ron H... Big storm coming your way

Just got hit with a big thunderstorm. Lots og lightening to begin, then lots of lightening, thunder, and a big dump of rain. Reports of hail in the path, from Tomball, past Hooks, IAH, and towards Gavelston.
Ron H ( 63.232.70.239 ) at 10:04 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Scott "popcorn": Lexicon is just a chip away from being able to handle DVDA in digital form.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.53 ) at 9:48 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

LouV: Digital isn't neccesarily better than analog. Digital can be stored easier than analog, and can also reject signal loss better than analog... But at the same time, digital isn't a "smooth curve" like analog is... it has steps, and it has to have enough step resolution to sound smooth... I think this is why audiophiles are wanting the 192kHz sampling rates and 32 bit resolution... Frankly, I think that's way overdoing it IMO, instead of using up more storage space for minimal gains (e.g., 48kHz at 20 or 24 bit resolution is enough for an audio channel), they should be looking into ways to "recreate" the analog curve from the digital sample. It's entirely possible, it just takes computing power and ingenuity.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.53 ) at 9:42 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Ron H: Actually, it's a pretty good idea for the time being... No component that has a digital input (with the possible exception of extreme high-end) would know what to do with a DVD-A digital signal. In fact, depending on the way digital audio is handled, it might think it's a 2 channel PCM signal and decode it as such. I'm quite certain that the MLP format is unknown to every digital decoder out there, save Meridian components, and I'm almost as certain that there is no digital decoder out there that can handle a 6 channel PCM signal.
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 8:23 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Ron H: wow.. thats confusing. I thought digital was better than analog?
Ron H ( 63.26.174.109 ) at 6:18 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Derb: Aaaaaahhhhhhg
Derb ( 199.174.2.19 ) at 5:19 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Ron H: The only reason so far there is no digital output for DVD-A is they are afraid of copyright infringements and bootlegs. A butch of lawyers and hi-rollers got this format all f@#ked up also. Same thing is going on with some HDTV feads, they are being downconverted to a lower format on purpose. This really makes no sense.
xtro ( 24.68.200.34 ) at 4:49 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
Sanyo service mode

Hey ... does anyone know the way into service mode on a Sanyo 27' tv?? it's brand new so any suggestions I'll try.. there seems to be no help posted that I could find yet.. thanks
xtro04@hotmail.com
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 3:44 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

trav1: WHERE IS MY DVD!
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 3:17 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

Gar: I picked it up for you. Email your way.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.91 ) at 3:05 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

BC: I hear ya 88 degrees outside today.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.91 ) at 3:05 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Derb: It really makes no sense that DVDA takes a digital signal and then converts it to analog before output.
BC ( 63.25.119.1 ) at 2:03 PM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

Hey guys, just stopped in to wish everyone a happy easter! Now I am gonna get off this computer on go enjoy the beautiful weather here today! Have a great one!
Derb ( 199.174.7.125 ) at 11:23 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Ron H: & LouV: Yes there will be a conventinal 2 channel cd track on anther layer or a downcoversion mix of the dvd-Audio 6 channels down to 2 channels. You will need a DVD-A player with 6 analong outputs and a receiver with 6 analong inputs or pre-pro with 6 analong inputs and 6 amp channels. There is currently no DVD-A players with a digital output, this would solve the whole 6 analog channel problem. Only next question is when will that happen and will the current 5.1 digital software no what to do with the information. I'm afraid ther will be a new digital format MLP "Meridian Lossless Packing" and most likely need its own software/hardware (chip set), just like DTS,HDCD,DD etc....
Ron H ( 63.26.171.203 ) at 10:45 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Scott "popcorn": Do not the DVD audio discs also have conventional tracks?
Joe ( 205.188.199.26 ) at 10:41 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001

Morning all,

Happy Easter
AVB ( 64.41.32.159 ) at 6:47 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
Trivia repost with another hint!

n honor of the start of the baseball season. What living current or former professional baseball player has the most League and world series championship rings? Name the person and the ring count. Just to make it easy, we'll leave out the overseas teams from Japan, Korea et al.

Hint: This person won league championship rings in both the American and National Leagues.
Hint 2: This person managed teams in both Leagues.

Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.75 ) at 1:47 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

LouV: From what I understand, you need a DVD-Audio player to play DVD-Audio discs... I think the file hierarchy on the disc is different than a DVD-Video disc. As for 6 channel, yep, it's actually 5.1.
Gar ( 169.207.194.161 ) at 12:42 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
Pioneer DV-AX10 Player

Richard: have you seen one of these yet? Anyone have specs on this thing, it sounds like it will do just about everything..... At a very steep price though....
Ron H ( 63.26.163.81 ) at 12:25 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
Ron H

RichF: Hmmm I just checkd my reciept for the SL3's and I purchased them last Febuary. They were a trade up from the Def Techs. I wonder if I can do another trade up? I am only a few months past due.
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 12:19 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

LouV: another question.. when they talk about "6 channels" of sound are they talking about the 5 channels plus the sub (5.1) but just making it sound more glamorus?
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 12:10 AM EST Sunday, April 15, 2001
DVD Audio

Quick question.. can I listen to a DVD Audio disc with my sony DVP-S550D? Or will I need to get a DVD Audio enabled player? Also, what about my RX-V2095 yammy? Do, I need to get a new receiver too? Both about 2 1/2 years old..
Robert ( 63.11.56.188 ) at 11:41 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Ron H

Rich F: M12's !!! I am SOOOO Jealous,,,I had M-9's and CM-5's for rear's and absolutely regret selling the M-9's,, then again I sold then for twice what I paid,,but it was a stupid move,,I loved the way they sounded. Sold ADS car products as well, so I had several 320i sets for carfi. I loved ads products.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 11:09 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

RickMTB: Thanks. Send me the number and I will call monday at your convience.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 11:05 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Ron H

Rich F: I currently have a line on a set of Demo Ascents for $3100. had a nice visit with your son the other day. Was back again today to look at some pieces to put my equipment on.
Rich F ( 172.129.229.14 ) at 10:45 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Ron H

Hi Ron. I use an old pair of soft dome ADS M12 speakers for the rears. They are the non-MLs in the system. When I finally get a new front pair, the SL3s will be my rears. The scripts sound great as surrounds and you can always trade up for a pair of Ascents within the first year for full value if you get them at Tweeter.
Rich F ( 172.129.229.14 ) at 10:42 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
JBC

I haven't had an opportunity to try it yet wince my system is in PA and I am in TX but I really appreciate your sending it so I will be ready when I finally get everything moved.
RB ( 152.163.194.189 ) at 10:12 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Me too
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 9:53 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

I Hate taxes.
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.39 ) at 7:27 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Ron H: Ron, call me at work and I will read you my IE properties (I use Netscape here at home... on my Compaq Presario btw). It has to be something easy, but I think your IT folks should send out a on site tech person to resolve the problem (HTOC Forum is classified a priority 1 application in my office ;-).

Actually, I have my laptop here at home to day (a Compaq Armada M700, btw) if you want to call me this evening I can tell you all the IE preferences). Still seem fishy that you can post to other boards but not HTOC...
KPD ( 64.111.10.84 ) at 7:24 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
AVP available

Ron H: You do to.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.153 ) at 7:24 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Ron H: You might try Opera... I'm not too thrilled with it myself, but you might like it. http://www.opera.com/
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.39 ) at 7:22 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Ron H: Hey now, I have dibs...
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 7:08 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
gar

Email your way.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.151 ) at 6:29 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

BC: I have tried IE and Netscape. Any other suggestions/?
BAGMAN ( 207.30.182.17 ) at 6:16 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

BIG AL: It's your birthday,in theory,spring for a $15.00 lap dance. Happy Birthday. Footnote to Mrs. BIG AL,it is just in theory, a hypothetical situation, so to speak.
BC ( 63.27.18.156 ) at 6:13 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Ron, that is really strange. Sorry I have no ideas to help.
I still can't get my pronto to connect using my usb to serial adapter. Tried it on a friends HP laptop and it worked like a charm. He is running the same O/S, and we verified that all settings relating to com ports were identical. I think it is a software conflict with something loaded on my machine.
Have you though about trying a different browser?
Ron H ( 63.26.164.129 ) at 6:04 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

JBC: One of the computers I have a problem with is a Gateway also. The computers come from some central place in the corp. I do not think they will send another because I can not get on the HTOC forum. :-). It just has to a setting or something with how IE and Netscape is installed.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:59 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Ron H: You are the boss... go get a Dell or Toshiba. Apologies to RickMTB.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.129 ) at 5:53 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

BC: No I can not figure out what is going on. I found two out of three others at work had the same problem and I can not see any difference in the set ups. The problem is unique to this forum I can post on any other forum out there. I am quite suprised that no one has a solution. This has really cut down on my enjoyment with this forum.
BC ( 63.27.18.156 ) at 5:48 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Ron H: Did you figure out what the problem was with the new computer?
Ron H ( 63.26.164.129 ) at 5:43 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

BC: Blonde hair, young, has a pickup and on top of all this resembles Darryl Hannah!!!! I am envious. You lucky dog. If it dosen't work out..........????? LOL
Ron H ( 63.26.164.129 ) at 5:40 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
AVP available

KPD: You have mail.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.129 ) at 5:33 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Ron H

Rich F: Hey it is not your fault about the Requests. What do you have for rears at this time? I hear you on the Prodigy but they ar etoo rich for my blood. I think I will settle with two sets of Scripts fpr side and rears. I am at times tempted to replace the SL3's with the Ascents and move the SL3's to the rear.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:55 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

AVB: The search continues. Actually, I was going to offer you in the unit in a few months time as I think I have a lead on another locally. Stay posted! You know, I am really looking for two -- one for me and one for you.
AVB ( 64.41.32.181 ) at 4:29 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
PS III demo

JBC: I would have jumped on that too if I found it. I think you are correct that somebody offered much more then $450 for the unit. Hope it works out for you and don't forget to point me to your leftovers
johnbr ( 24.112.158.228 ) at 4:14 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Big Al

Have a good day.
KPD ( 64.111.10.28 ) at 3:08 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

JBC: Yeah, I got a thought, tell him "no problem I'll take it with the defective LED and get it fixed under the full warranty". Howzdat?
KPD ( 64.111.10.28 ) at 3:06 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Happy Birthday, BIG AL!!!

Have a Big one!! ;))
LouV ( 24.190.128.221 ) at 2:51 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Used Buying online

Gar: I've used paypal as well while buying items on ebay. I usually dont bid on items unless theres paypal, bidpay or other payment options like those. I find it really safe and very reliable..

Oh yeah, happy birthday Big Al!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 2:47 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Rich: How did LexiPanel work out for you?

AVB: No luck here today. Yesterdasy I got an e-mail from a Cinepro dealer who had a PSIII for sale for US$450. He said the price was so low becasue it was a 5 month old demo unit with a huge scratch on the bottom of th unit. For the price I could care less -- particularly as the scratch will never be seen. I closed the deal, inclusive of a bill of sale showing me as the original owner (and thus with full warranty). An hour ago I got an e-mail advising me that in testing the unit he noticed that the power supply LED's were not working pproperly.

I am a little pissed about this. I think that someone offered more $$$ after I had closed the deal. Heck, I did not even negotiate with them. He said US$450 and said... SOLD. Any thoughts?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.215 ) at 2:12 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

BC: Damn you!

I guess I don't have any luck...
Rich F ( 172.130.28.148 ) at 1:57 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Ron H

Sorry about the ReQuests. I didn't realize the supply was so low until I emailed you about the last pair. Even I didn't know how cheap they would go but I still really want the Prodigy and would rather wait. Besides, where would I put them in this one bedroom apartment. Can't wait to sell the house and get my system back.
Rich F ( 172.130.28.148 ) at 1:55 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Happy Birthdays

Best wishes to Big Al and belated wishes to Sonicbit
BC ( 63.25.135.155 ) at 1:24 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Good afternoon guys.
Happy Birthday Big Al.
There is joy in plano. I met a girl for the first time last night who I met online. Turns out she works for the same company in a different organization, different building. It was one of those deals where you wonder if her description was gonna be real. I had sent her a pic but didn't get one from her. Of course my thinking was "great, she has seen my pic and STILL wants to meet me, she must be ugly" hehe
I couldn't have been more wrong. She is a few years younger (fine with me), blonde, blue eyes, 5'3", athletic build, kinda resembles Darryl Hannah. And she drives a big red ford f150 ext. cab 4x4! god, I love TX!
Joe ( 64.12.104.44 ) at 12:49 PM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Happy Birthday Big Al

On a day like today you should go out and spluge on something.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 11:48 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Happy Birthday, BIG AL!!!

Have an excellent day!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:54 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Happy B-Day BIG AL

BIG AL: Have a great day!
Gar ( 169.207.194.102 ) at 10:40 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Used Buying online

I have had no problems selling or buying used products online, but I hate it when someone asks me to send them the money and then they will send the item... I like usiing UPS COD or Fedex or Paypal that way to a certain extent everyone is protected. Anyone have any problems buying used or new gear online???
Gar ( 169.207.194.102 ) at 10:38 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Happy B-Day BIG AL

Enjoy the weekend........
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.10 ) at 10:16 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Happy Birthday!

X-tra Big Al: Enjoy it!
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.10 ) at 10:16 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
REPOST: Games & RPTV

Tony C: Yeah, they come with a warning because 99.9% of TV owners don't know what VE or AVIA are, nor do they mess with their factory defaults, which are WAY out of whack!(Like contrast turned up to 90% or more!). Sounds like you are plenty safe.
So how's that PS2 look on your set?
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 9:58 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
PSA

Another Sony Pre/Pro just went up on uBid, ends tonight.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.73 ) at 9:22 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Happy B-Day Big Al
RB ( 152.163.205.53 ) at 8:58 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Happy B-Day, Big Al!
RB ( 152.163.205.53 ) at 8:57 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Car Stereo

RickMTB: Thanks for the links for the speakers. My brother suggested Infiniti Kappas, but a guy at Crutchfield said they would not fit my '99 Honda Accord. He suggested Polks and they're on sale now. First I'm going to install the cassette/cd changer and then take it from there.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:51 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001

Good morning everyone.
AVB ( 64.41.32.225 ) at 7:01 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Trivia repost with hint!

n honor of the start of the baseball season. What living current or former professional baseball player has the most League and world series championship rings? Name the person and the ring count. Just to make it easy, we'll leave out the overseas teams from Japan, Korea et al.

Hint: This person won league championship rings in both the American and National Leagues.

Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
Ron H ( 63.26.164.50 ) at 3:13 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Gar

Joe: No Elite 79 here. I two other models though.
Robert ( 63.11.42.28 ) at 1:23 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Tony C: I know your not asking me if I paid for the discs? I have a feeling Blanks will most likely be $25+,,There doesn't seem to be any issue in Japan at all,,both DVD-RW hardware and software are doing well.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:10 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Robert: I understand that those DVD-RWs cost in the area of $20.00.
In this case, because the movie isn't out on DVD, I can understand recording one. But why spend $20 on a DVD when you can buy one just as cheap. I"m sure the price of the RWs will come down once manufacturing gets going, but that could be a long time.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:08 AM EST Saturday, April 14, 2001
REPOST: Games & RPTV

thanks,Cytotech & Gar.
I did calibrate the TV to VE. And like I said, they are pretty good with it. And it is PS2 that is being played most often on the TV.
BUT, the reason I asked was because every Dreamcast and PS2 game come with a warning in the instruction book.
As noted, it has been a while and no harm done.
AVB ( 64.41.32.197 ) at 10:40 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
HiPix DTV-200

Joe: You can read all about this on the AVS HTPC forum
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.244 ) at 10:22 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Hey boys, I just got in from a Meridian 861 installation. Talk about one versatile EXPENSIVE piece of equipment. Too much reading for me today. I just wanted to check in and wish ya'll a great week. We're leaving early in the AM for 3 days in Miyaaaaami followed by a 5 day cruise. Talk to everyone next week.
Cytotech ( 12.74.67.101 ) at 10:07 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
REPOST: Games & RPTV

Tony C: Also, assuming you have calibrated your TV with Video Essentials or AVIA, the contrast and brightness should be sufficiently low enough as not to cause damage. I wouldn't worry about it if it has been a few years.
Robert ( 63.11.58.26 ) at 9:07 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Kieran: The recording's not going through a computer,,,it's DVL-91 to DVR-2000, consumer grade DVD-RW machine (connections). I'm interested to see how it turns out as well,,,,,got the new version DVD-RW blanks that allow variable recording on the recorder.
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 8:29 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Gar: I can check there tomorrow if you wish, just let me know.
Gar ( 169.207.193.165 ) at 8:21 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

trav1: For $80 bucks I seen them going for over $100 bucks at some places......
Gar ( 169.207.193.165 ) at 8:12 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Gasgeek: Thanks for the info that seems about right them Between $400 and $550 is a good price and hopefully I am getting this one for $400 unless someone out bids me with only an hour left.
Gar ( 169.207.193.165 ) at 8:10 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
REPOST: Games & RPTV

Tony C: It shouldn't be too much of a problem. Most game consoles now have a built in screen saver like the PS2. Also some DVD Players off this feature which is nice because I have fallen asleep during a flick.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:51 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
REPOST: Games & RPTV

My kids play video games on my XBR RP.
They are real good at turning the games off and not putting them on pause.
Is it still real bad for my TV?
It's been a few years and I have not noticed any burn-in or other flaws.
Joe ( 152.163.195.194 ) at 7:18 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
HiPix DTV-200

Has anyone read the review on this product in SGHT? It seems like for $400 it would be a cool add to a PC. I am still reading but thought I would though it out there.

I found the recording part interesting. It says 2 hours of HD material takes about 18 gig of disk space. It has 2 tuners for ATSC & NTSC. The way I read it, you can digitialy record any rate including 720p and playback it back. It seems that this would be a better device then TIVO. It does not have the guide system, but it has a one time price.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.13 ) at 7:17 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Winston; I know the feeling. After sitting unused in my closet for 5 years, my leathers shrunk too. My wife has a pic of me trying to stretch out my shrunken wetsuit. She uses it for blackmail whenever company is over. Hopefully she'll never figure out how to create a link to a pic here. Starting now, I suggest everyone in the HTOC begin praying that she doesn't.
Joe ( 152.163.195.194 ) at 7:12 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Gar

You might want to drop Ron a line, it seems like he has a Elite 79.

When are you going to try out these Anthem Pre/Pros you have been talking about. I really like keeping up on the Canadian products. In case I ever have any money the exchange rate is good, for a 45 minute drive.
Cytotech ( 12.74.64.219 ) at 7:08 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Cuz!!!

{b;Sonic:] Happy Birthdy, pal! Enjoy what's left of it!
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:58 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Gar: Here's an older review from Audio Revolution. It states that the price was $1440. I believe the MSRP was around $1600. (?) For reference, the B Stock 79 that I traded to Winston was $650 approximately three years ago. Hope this helps.

http://www.audiorevolution.com/equip/cld79/index.html
AVB ( 64.41.32.20 ) at 6:58 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Garage/garden shed

Joe: It is a slow project. I'm not sure how much I want to do myself. I have a concrete contractor coming for estimates next week. I started to dig the hole but I'm only a third done with that. It takes time to dig a 28x16x1' hole by hand but it is great exercise. I'll be going out to price my material list Sunday so once I get the concrete price and the list price I'll know better how I'll do this.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.2 ) at 6:56 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darian: Pkg on the way. I will send tracking number to you on Monday. It should arrive on tuesday.
KPD ( 64.20.9.226 ) at 6:53 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
AVP available

Hi everyone, just wanted to stop in to let you know I came across an AVP today that is for sale. I installed it almost a year ago, has the S-video option, and it is hardly used. He switched to a Krell HTS that I installed today for him. It can be had for $2650 plus shipping. Let me know if you might be interested, I thought it was a good deal and wanted to share it here first just in case. IMHO, it was much better than the HTS I put in. I found the HTS on the bright side, lacking in features and build quality. Anyway Happy Easter to those of you who celebrate it. My email is kevd16@hotmail.com
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 6:44 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Gar: It blanked my mind, are you still interested in this ld? I am sure they still have it for around $80 or so. My fault. Let me know.
Gar ( 169.207.193.52 ) at 6:37 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Pop I believe the 97/99 where more expensive.

Also here is a good place on info for LD Players......
http://members.nbci.com/ldarchive/pioneer1.htm
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 6:06 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Old Working Box

BAGMAN: Well, I'm currently working on a YOUNG box. I'll let you know how it turns out.


Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.124 ) at 6:06 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Iomega Zip Class action

I got a letter in the mail today about Iomega Zip drives that have a clicking problem... Class action lawsuit for this problem (apparently in some cases it breaks the drive so that it can't read disks, and sometimes also destorys the disk in the drive too) But here's the funny part... they are just offering a rebate to buy a new drive. They have several options, including buying a drive and disks... but for reference, the most rebate you can get is $17.50 on a Zip 250. $12.50 on a Zip 100. If you can't prove that your drive has the full-blown problem, then it is $10 and $5 respectively... Some class action... I can get that reduction in price just by selecting where I buy it...

On the other hand, the settlement calls for $4.7 million for the lawyers and associated fees... Sounds to me like the lawyers need to go jump in the river and that $4.7 million be applied to repairing or replacing the defective drives.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:05 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Old Works box

Scott "popcorn": Sounds good. Thanks.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.124 ) at 6:01 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Gar: I thought the Elite 97 was $2K... I don't know anything about an Elite 79
BAGMAN ( 207.30.182.17 ) at 6:00 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Old Working Box

Kieran: Don't know why you would want one. I can't imagine anything worse than an old working box. Sounds like one of BIG AL's lap dancers to me.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.124 ) at 5:59 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Old Works box

Kieran: Actually, another route you might want to go... the local home depot has a type of old work box, but it's just a frame... it's for low-voltage stuff I think... it's just about an inch and a half thick, completely open in the back... it just clamps to the wall and provides the wall plate mount like an old work box does, but without the fully enclosed box.
Gar ( 169.207.192.85 ) at 5:43 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Can anyone direct me to info on the Elite Pioneer 79? And what did it retail for new, I was told $2000
Gar ( 169.207.192.85 ) at 5:40 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Spleen Man

I believe everything is converted to RGB or Component going through the iScan Pro? Darian/Wild Bill help me out on this one.....
Gar ( 169.207.192.85 ) at 5:38 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
I hear ya.....

Kieran: I bid on a LD Player, I don't want to spend over $400 bucks on a good used one, an Elite 79... If it goes higher which I think it will I am out....
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 5:37 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Old Works box

Scott "popcorn": Oh, thanks. I thought there was something more to why they were recommending one of those boxes.
Gar ( 169.207.192.85 ) at 5:36 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
PSA

SonicBit:Welcome to the Sony Pre/Pro Club... I think this is one piece that is built well sounds great and you can't beat the price. Although the new piece by Anthem looks promising, but it doesn't do it all, nor do I think they will ever make a piece like that..... the AVM2 I believe it is called.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 5:35 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
PSA - TA-PSA: TA-E9000ES

That should read, "I can't really afford it, but at under..."
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:31 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
PSA - TA-PSA: TA-E9000ES

Well, I figured what the heck. I can't really afford it at that price, but at under $900, that's almost a CuRTis deal! So I bid. Maybe I'll win, maybe I won't... we'll see.
Joe ( 152.163.204.62 ) at 5:16 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Studs & fishing

AVB: True if the carpenter does it right. That is the factor doing it right. There are some poor construction habits out there.

BTW hows the garage coming?
Joe ( 152.163.204.62 ) at 5:10 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kierans Home Project

Kieran

You need to spend some time looking around in home Depot, some things will just jump out at you. You will go " Oh thats what those guys mean.

Quater Round: Look at the end of your pencil. Imagine it cut in to quaters. Two flat sides and a round side....Quater Round.

Shoe Mold: The piece that goes on the bottom of you Baseboard that touches the floor. It gives a nice tie in look.

I had mine made out of hickoy in my kitchen and also used it on the kitchen cabinents. Instead of having a round side it has a double roll that matches the Hickoy edging on the counter tops. I am not suggesting Hickoy for you, it woould not match and is a bit more then pine or Oak
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.124 ) at 5:00 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Old Works box

Kieran: ..When his head is in view, HIT IT WITH THE ROCK!!! Oh... umm wrong movie. Seriously, what the old work box is for is you cut your hole in the drywall, put the old work box in (after running the wires through the holes in the back) and then you have a place to attach your wall plate to. Screwing a wall plate directly to drywall with a rough hole cut for the wires to come through just doesn't work!
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:56 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Birthday Wishes

Thanks Gar, Kieran, Scott, Ron H, JBC, BC, BAGMAN, Darina...I mean Darian, Big Al, Gasgeek, and johnbr!

It was much too nice a day to enjoy the birthday present I gave myself(9000ES pre/preo). I did however spend some time on the Metro to go to my cigar store in DC(JR Cigars) to pick up a box of Mayorga cigars(and got 10 freshrolled cigars too!) I sat out on my patio and enjoyed the sun and the warm breeze. A Guinness would have made it perfect, but that's for later tonight.

Thanks again!

BTW, gasgeek email enroute to you.

SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:52 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
PSA

JJ: Oh SURE. I finally get around to getting a TA-9000ES pre/pro and this comes along. Good thing I don't like the champagne finish! LOL (and no, not a drop of buyer's remorse here)
JJ ( 64.192.228.201 ) at 4:43 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
PSA

A Sony 9000 pre/pro new http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/4504456.asp don't forget to tack on ~$40 for shipping
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 4:36 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Old Works box

Okay, now that I (sort of not really) understand what an Old Works Box is, could somebody explain again how it would be used in my situation?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:34 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Kieran: ... not to mention that the video quality will be reduced, from the LD to the DVD.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:33 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Laughing my ass off

Tony C: Okay, what the HECK is a quarter round shoe? Sounds to me like a pretty uncomfortable shoe!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 4:31 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Gar: I was mostly joking! I make mix cd's all the time for friends. I'd be interested in hearing about Robert's friend's setup for copying LD to DVD though. Sampling an entire LD to digital video on a hard drive, then converting it to MPEG2 should take a couple of days of computing time on your average p3-800 or so.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.124 ) at 4:20 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Running Wires

Joe:
Kieran: As long ass the crawl space is dry, let them hang
That's a long ass crawl space... I'm not going to touch "let them hang"
Gar ( 169.207.192.85 ) at 4:12 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran

Kieran: I find it ironic that they make CD burners and blank CDs now and DVD writers and blank DVDs to transfer info too and then they tell us not to make copies of things..... That is laughable I am laughing....Well they tell us it is ok to make backups... That is just the computer industry way of getting around copyright laws.. Frankly if I mass produce something for a profit that is where the law should be focused on not if I want to give a CD to someone for free.
Gar ( 169.207.192.85 ) at 4:06 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Kieran: Give me a break, I copied a CD for Curtis and it was no big deal. And don't tell me there is a difference.... Doh!!!
AVB ( 64.41.33.33 ) at 3:49 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Studs & fishing

Joe: If the builder did it right the first stud is 16" OC from the corner. Having doubled studs shouldn't matter. Also, a chain line and magnet can come in handy when "fishing" thru walls.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:42 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
RPTV and video games

My kids play video games on my XBR RP.
They are real good at turning the games off and not putting them on pause.
Is it still real bad for my TV?
It's been a few years and I have not noticed any burn-in or other flaws.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:36 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Laughing my ass off

You guys are cracking me up with Kierans project. It's pretty amazing what you forgot you know. You know?

Kieran, Joe and Darian are right on. You really should try to get down there, it will make the whole thing easier. Those Old Work boxes may not be available in all areas. Well, at least not in my part of the country. I have to go out where Big Al lives to get them because they are against code here. Also, I tape my wires the way Joe described. But smearing a little liquid soap on the wires also helps to slip them through tight spots. But if you follow their instructions, you shouldn't have a problem.
Oh, yes, do nail your molding to the plate or stud. If you use a quarter round shoe, you can hide the nails at the bottom.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 3:16 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Sport Bikes

Big Al: Thanks for the advice. Spring must be coming because I've got bike fever. I tried on my old Dainese racing leathers the other night to see if they still fit. Haven't worn them in ten years and I was thirty pounds lighter back then.

Try to imagine a blimp covered with racing stickers on it and you'll have some idea of how I looked.
Joe ( 205.188.195.46 ) at 3:08 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Joes Home Improvement will return, wife is making demands.
Joe ( 205.188.195.46 ) at 3:04 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Speaking of moulding...

Kieran: Get some #6 Finishing nails. A 1 lb box shouls do you fine. You want to hit the 2x4 ( Bottom Plate) every couple feet or so.

Home depot fastner asile gray box.
Joe ( 205.188.195.46 ) at 3:02 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

ass = as
Joe ( 205.188.195.46 ) at 3:01 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Running Wires

Kieran: As long ass the crawl space is dry, let them hang.
Joe ( 205.188.195.46 ) at 3:00 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Kieran,

When you go to Lowes or HD you will see Drill Bits in the electical department. They will be long 18"-24". These are made for drilling downward or upward though a hole in the wall.

A wall is framed with 2x4's. The top and bottom 2x4's are called " plates" These would run horizontial as you face the wall. The 2x4's that run between the plates vertically are called studs (not to be confussed with us Michigan guys )

The studs are on 16" centers. Now the first one will not be excatlly 16" out from the coner because the end studs are usally doubled for strength. Actually you would nail the first stud on the outside ends of the plates and back the next stud inside the plates next to the first stud.

One problem with going up and over the top is some builders place cross members or nailers in the wall. These are usally half way up and run horizon.

Scott explained the "Old Works" box. A gang box is the box in which you switch or receptical is inside of. It is called a old worsk because the drywall is on the studs. If it was New Work it would have nails on the top and bottom facing to one side. On the side of the box with the pointy end of the nail would be 2 "Tits". You place these "Tits" flush to the stud and this sets the box out .5" make it flush with the drywall.

I think I covered it, if not ask.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:55 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Running Wires

So, one thing I asked that nobody's commented on yet.... Is it okay to just let the bare wires lay on the ground under the floor, or should I run them through some sort of conduit?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:53 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Speaking of moulding...

I've been slowly installing the moulding all over my downstairs. Are the moulding nails supposed to only bite into the drywall, or should they go through to the 2x4 base? It seems that some that only bite into the drywall are pretty loose. Plus, the walls are pretty beat up in some places, so there's not much substance left to the drywall at the wall/floor intersection. My moulding is on the large side... about 3.5" high, by about 5/8" thick at the base. I've been nailing some in right above the 1/2 height of the moulding (about 2 inches up from floor). This tends to miss the 2x4 completely. But, when I nail lower, to try to hit the 2x4, the moulding is thicker and the nail isn't quite long enough to bite into the 2x4. So, should I get longer nails, or do I not need to be hitting the 2x4 in the first place?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:49 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran's 12th step

Darian: Cool. I think I get it. I assume that if the bundle of wire were thick enough, it might be worthwhile to cut a notch in the 2x4 as well, huh?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:47 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran

Scott "popcorn": No attic... vaulted ceilings. Not so good for accoustics, but the price (for the condo) was/is right! Thanks for the old box description. I think I've seen them before.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 2:35 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

I don't go to them there expensive, high class joints! Besides, it makes me feel better to help out those poor retired school teachers.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 2:29 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Winston; GSXRs are fast, reliable, and usually inexpensive, because thousands were sold. If you're sure it hasn't been raced, check the front fork tubes for seal leaks. If there are leaks, probably wheelied a lot(not good). If the clutch doesn't grab or slip, and the engine is smooth, no rattles, go for it.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.124 ) at 2:12 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darina: So, the truth is out now, huh?
Robert ( 63.11.42.19 ) at 2:09 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Joe: I'm sure our PR department is all over this,,but the sales force would be out of the loop. Sure wish I TIVO'd Letterman now don't I?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.124 ) at 2:07 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran

Kieran: An "old works" box is a box which has screws from the front which are threaded into tabs that fold up and down... the tabs are folded against the box when you inster it into the wall. Then, when you tighten the screws, the tabs flip out away from the box, and clamp against the back of the drywall. Really nifty stuff. One question I'd like to ask though... do you have attic space above this area, or is it finished above? It sounds like it would be easier to run the cables over, rather than under. Either that, or get a shovel to make the crawl space larger.
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 2:01 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

JBC: NEC LT150. Ron H is providing a screen for me!
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 2:00 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran

Joe:Just to add to Darina comments.

What the hell is up with that??? Joesaphine!!!
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 1:58 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran's 12th step

The drywall is afixed to a 2X4. The Drywall has a depth. Cut a trench in the drywall so the wire is flush with the wood 2X4. Then once above the 2X4 you are in the wall. The wall being the cell formed by drywall, studs, and insulation.

Re attach the molding so that it covers up this trench.

Where's my Volleyball!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:57 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darian: Refresh my memory, what projector are you getting?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 1:43 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran

Joe: Thanks for the comments
You could also get a long bit made for drilling though plates ( bottom 2x4), a " OLD WORKS" gang box and the drywall saw mentioned. find you location and cut in the old works box. Before inserting box Drilldown though the hole in the wall though the plate. Then fish from the farest point.
You lost me here. When you say a bottom 2x4 bit, do you mean that it's like a bottoming bit, meaning flat on the tip for drilling blind holes? What use would that be here? Also, what's an "OLD WORKS" gang box. What's a gang box? "Drill down through the hole in the wall through the plate" What plate?

Sorry for all my confusion, guys. I appreciate the help, but I'm pretty new to all this home improvement stuff, and therefore pretty clueless. It's fun, though!
Joe ( 64.12.102.166 ) at 1:39 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Big Al

Those $10 lap dances, if you want the girl to have shaved legs and Teeth does that cost more?

Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 1:37 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
LD Player

Gar: I'm only marginally familiar with the iScan - does it have an onboard comb filter? If so, the "s" connection should work okay. LD is a composite format, so it's usually (but not always) best not to convert it. Try both ways if possible and see which looks best.
Joe ( 64.12.102.166 ) at 1:36 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Robert: If you would click my name and send me a list of LD's I would like that. If it a huge list I am mainly interested in Music ones.
Joe ( 64.12.102.166 ) at 1:34 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Kieran

Just to add to Darina comments.

You should NOT try to tape all the wire ends together. Have a single wire sticking a few inches farther. Take the other wires and stagger them back on the first wire and tape to the wire. you understand, say you have 6 wires tape the second one back a few inches then move back and tape the next one and so on. This makes it easy to get though the holes and not snag.

Also on the end of you fish it will be bent over a 1" or so. Place the first wire though this and fold back. Then tape on both the metal and the wire. Run it though you hands if it slids though without snagging it should work fine.

You could also get a long bit made for drilling though plates ( bottom 2x4), a " OLD WORKS" gang box and the drywall saw mentioned. find you location and cut in the old works box. Before inserting box Drilldown though the hole in the wall though the plate. Then fish from the farest point.

You might also have a coat hanger handy, they make great little hadn extension with a hook on the end.
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 1:33 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

My New projector arrived at the UPS location 2 miles from my home at 7:00 this morning. It si signature required so I am waiting here with the aniticpation of a child waiting for Santa! The only hitch is... if I miss Santa, I have to wait for Monday and do it over again!!!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 1:29 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darian: AWESOME! Thanks. I'm a little unclear on steps 11,12&13, though. Okay, not 11, but I'm not sure what 12 & 13 are. Okay, 12... it's really 12 that I don't understand.
Joe ( 64.12.102.166 ) at 1:22 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Had a digital camera for a couple of days

Robert: So how does Natalie (sp)sound.
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 1:21 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Kieran: Ok... you asked for it. Procedure assumes that crawl space entry is inthe room in question.
1. Pull off base board or shoe molding.
2. Drill hole in now uncovered area at a diagonal so the bit goes throught the bottom of the wall and floor it sits on.
3. Push cable down in to the hole.
4. Stick head into crawl space so you can see the pile of wire
5. Use the hook end of fish tape to drag wire to crawl space
6. Repeat step 1 and 2 on other wall
7. Straighten out the hook on the fish tape so the end is flat and straight
8. Use the natural bend of the tape to force into hole and towards crawl entry
9. Take end of fish tape and end of cable and affix using eletrical tape in a spiral
10. Pull tape back and hope the electrical tape doesn't come off or snag anything.
11. Using a drywall saw, $10. Cut out a box where you want the panel.
12. Cut a notch in the drywall to allow the wire to be flat against the beam that comprises the bottom of the wall
13. fish wire up to whole
14. Install panel
15. Repeat 11-14 on the other side of room
16. Attach wires to pannels
17. Reattach shoe molding or base board making sure that no nails that afix buncture wires.
18. Go to Sporting goods store and Purchase a Wilson AVP Voleyball and mail it to me.

You are all done.
Joe ( 64.12.102.166 ) at 1:21 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Robert: I am surprised you guys have not gotten a fax about lettermans comments. He has to have a huge audiance. I believe the words those son's of bitches over at pioneer were used. I think it was Tom Green that said that. I have last night on tape so I could watch nightline.

I will have to replay it.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 1:15 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Gar: But that would be illegal! Copying for his own backup/use purposes is fine, but if he makes two copies and gives one away, he's in TROUBLE! (not that I'm opposed to it, just pointing out the facts...)
Joe ( 64.12.102.166 ) at 1:15 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
DVD Express

Here is a E-Mail I recieved from DVD Exprees. I would not purchase from them for awhile.


Thank you for taking time to write us. Due to the large volume of email we
are receiving during our system upgrade, we have compiled some answers to
our most frequently asked questions. If your question is not answered
within this email, please send it to: customer_service@express.com

As you may know, our company is currently undergoing a reorganization and
during this time we are unable to acquire new product. In the meantime, we
suggest you delete the backordered item(s) and replace the item(s) with in
stock product at this time. We do not have an estimated restock date for
backordered titles, therefore, it would be best to adjust your order for
immediate shipment.

Since we do not have restock dates on some of the out of stock titles, we
have sent some orders with available inventory now.

We were not able to convert open orders placed prior to February 28, 2001 to
the new system.

We are currently in the process of bringing in open orders from March 1,
2001 forward and you can amend the order by going through My Account. This
conversion process should be completed by end of day Friday, April 13th.

We sincerely regret any inconvenience this might have caused you and we
thank you for your continued support.


Express.com
Gar ( 169.207.194.45 ) at 1:14 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Well I have off today, time to hit some more golf balls thanks for the info gents.......
Gar ( 169.207.194.45 ) at 1:13 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
LD Players

Winston aka the Spleen:I was thinking of running the Elite 79 to the iScan Pro using the S-video... I think I should be ok doing that.....
Gar ( 169.207.194.45 ) at 1:12 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Robert:Ah did you say record to DVD If so, make me a copy and I will gladly compensate you for it.....
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 1:11 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
oops

Should have said "identical audio and video performance to both the '99 and '704"......
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 1:10 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
LD Players

Gar: Assuming you use compsite output and not the s-output, the CLD-79 will give you identical audio and video performance to both the '99 and

It's a great player and I think you will be very happy with its performance. Plus you get to see tons of great stuff that is not released on DVD and may never be!
Robert ( 63.11.61.158 ) at 1:05 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Gar: Contemplating selling mine,,In fact I'm taking it over to a friends house to record it onto DVD (as well as the SW spec Edit.) for me,,,,granted it's DD2.0,,but hey,,until the DVD comes out so be it..BTW, the EX surround sound is great !!! IF I decide to let it all go, I'll give you first dibs. I'm contemplating putting my DVL700 and assorted discs on ebay, but have enough "extras" that the TPM LD can get separated.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:58 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darian: No children available, so the Fish Tape is my likely bet. But... how do I make the 90 degree turn from going horizontal under the floor, to going up the wall? I'd rather install wall jacks than drill a hole in my new Pergo floor.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 12:54 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Gar: The dvd is due out this October. The LD, (considering how soon the DVD is coming) is WAY too expensive, IMHO. If you really want it, ebay is your best bet. The LD is OOP, so you have to buy it second hand.
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 12:54 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Kieran: Time for a trip to the Home Depot. You are going to need FISH TAPE. That is the term they use for it. It is a blue disc with a black handel. There is a metal wire that unravels from the disc as you rotate the handle. They call it FISHING ire because it can be just that. As you push the tape to where you want to go you bang it around in the wall or floor trying to get it from A-B. Cost is under $50 depending on lenth.

You also will need a Studfinder + power. Ask and they will lead you right to it. This unit not only finds studs but tells you when you get near metal... or electricity. Very handy device.

Most lazy people just drill into the floor and run the wire across the floor and then up through a hole in the back. This is a very comon thing to do. Just drill the whole large enough to get the wire in. When you leave... wood putty.

Small children can be a poor mans best friend in running wires. When you use the approach mantioned above. drill the first whole... feed the wire down. Let the little tike drag the wire to where it is supposed to come up. They push it back up. Take them to Baskin Robbin's and avoid the $75 an hour charges!

(When I talk about using your children like this... I am 1/2 joking. Never put your chil or neighbors into dangerous places. Most crawl spaces are dry earth or cement foundation. Open the door to the crawl space and make sure there are no residents squating. Hell I check before I go in!)
Gar ( 169.207.194.45 ) at 12:52 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Star Wars Episode One

Where can one buy this? On LD and when is it coming out on DVD?

THanks for the help.
Gar ( 169.207.194.45 ) at 12:52 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
LD Player

Well from the looks of it I might be a owner of a Elite Pioneer LD 79 player, I have been trying to get ahold of a 97 or 99 but no luck. If my memory serves me right the 79 is a glorified version of the 704 and a step down slightly from the 99.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 12:44 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Sport Bikes

Big Al: You're the motorcycle authority around here, what do you think of the 1990-91 Suzuki GSXR 1100's? I've found a deal on a nice clean one and am giving serious thought to getting back in the saddle.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 12:42 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Morning all.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:16 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Running Wire under the floor...

I'm going to be moving into my new condo soon, and I'd like to run speaker and coax wire from the front of my listening room, to the back, under the floor.

I'd like to just have a couple terminals flush on the front wall and back wall, with banana plug-type jacks, std. rf-coax too, and maybe a few RCA coax. So, I want to run a pretty big bundle, and I'm looking for suggestions on how to do this.

The crawl space is too small for me to get into, and I don't know any one who's small enough (and willing enough) to crawl down there for me.

In the recent HT mag, they mention a "Fish Wire" (I think that's the name). It's a device used to push wire long distances inside walls or crawl spaces. This sounds like a great idea, but then how do I make the 90 degree turn up the far wall when I get there?

Assuming I'm able to run all these wires, is it okay to just leave them laying free under the floor? (i.e. probably just sitting on the dirt under the floor) Should they be fastened to the floor boards at all? Bundled up in a tube or something?

Also, how do I know where to cut a hole in the drywall? I don't want to cut into any electrical wires and stuff like that.

Thanks for any advice/help.
Robert ( 63.11.61.158 ) at 12:06 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Had a digital camera for a couple of days

Gar: Hey, I actually pulled one out as I got my Tiger LIly and Blue Man group DVD-A discs yesterday,,,I've got re-set up my M&K's to do some critical listening, but out of the chute,,very nice indeed. THe AX-10 is a sweet machine, and it's built like a tank,,but the 38 will do me fine for now.
Robert ( 63.11.61.158 ) at 12:02 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

BIG AL: I sure wish I TIVO's Letterman,,,man that's got to hurt. I wouldn't want to be in PR right now.
Robert ( 63.11.61.158 ) at 12:00 PM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Had a digital camera for a couple of days

Tony C: details: the ELite speakers are off to the side as I work on the room, and the side and rear speakers are Pioneer's ISO-Drive speakers,,the rear rears can be configured direct or diffuse. I was demo'ing some speakers. In fact the gear in the back corner are Pioneer's H series speakers. As far as finishing,,I haven't a clue,,,,conf calls till 8pm,,,gone 16 days out of the next 30, I'm lucky I'm this far.

and as far as fishing,,,,so I'm a little limited,,,but hey, being out in the middle of the lake ain't all bad in whatever kind of boat....BTW,,that's a facsimile of my boat,,I got it off the Glastron website, except for the rails,,same boat.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 11:55 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

BIG AL: Man, where do you get lapdances for $9.99 plus tax?

(I saw a Britney CD for sale @9.99 just yesterday, so...)
johnbr ( 24.112.158.228 ) at 11:54 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Happy B day SonicB have a GOOD one
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 11:53 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

BIG AL: That'd be "The Bridge on the River Kwai."
Already own it. Great flick... decent disc, although I didn't opt for the collector's edition. (or spec. ed., or limited, or whatever the jazzy one was called.) The picture and sound are the same, just fewer extras.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:52 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Robert; Where are you going to put the Koool hi-tec Quaker Oats bass tube trapp?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 11:50 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

RickMTB: Hard Drives... didn't we have this discussion all ready? Back when I was building my own computer? Anyway, I still maintain that 80~90% of the stuff that comes pre-installed is USELESS crap that takes up HD space, and I don't care if you've got a 15,000 rpm 150 GB HD (don't think one is available yet but the point remains) wasted space is wasted space. But more importantly, 90% of computer failures are software oriented, and the less unecessary software installed on MY computer, the easier it is to trouble shoot when things go wrong. AND the less useless software installed, the less seldom things actually do go wrong... go figure. I'd be perfectly happy to accept all the bundled software that the big brands offer, if they'd just offer it on cd's or floppies, and let ME pick and choose what gets installed.

I also understand that for those of you who don't trouble shoot your own computers, that most of this doesn't even matter to you, because you let the warranty take care of any problems.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 11:44 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

RickMTB: Dixie Chicks... okay, they're the third reason why I have the country music station on my presets in my truck. In fact, I enjoy a lot of the female c.music performers that are hot right now. However, when ever Garth or any of the other male singers come on the air with their twangy singing, I gotta press another button... back to NPR talk or classic rock or jazz or something. "Cowboy Take Me Away" is a great song, BTW. Love those big full harmonies in the chorus.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:36 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

or is that Kwai?
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:36 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Gar; How about "Bridge Over The River Quai" ?
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:35 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

For the price of a Britney cd, I COULD get a lap dance from a live, naked, beautiful woman (I never really would). I'd rather listen to a talented woman.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:34 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Happy Birthday SonicBoy!!! Hope you have a good one. You should be receiving $20 from me too any day now. Mailed it on Monday.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 11:33 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Sparticus

Gar I believe it streets on 4/24/01.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 11:32 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Britney

Gar: Agreed 100%. Did I ever say I liked her music? Nah... she's just hot-looking, that's all... I agree about Shania and Faith Hill, too. They're both excellent. In fact they are the two reasons why I even have the country music station on my presets in my car!

I will say that Britney and Christina are talented, though. I mean, they are not completely WITHOUT talent. They can dance and move pretty well on stage, and while they may not be the best, they can sing DECENTLY. I just don't like WHAT they sing.
Derb ( 208.134.148.93 ) at 11:30 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
The EAD Word

Darian: July or August will work. Thanx for the input
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:26 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

AVB; Thanks! Just the opinion I wanted to hear! The tweeter has a plastic hi-tec thingamabob over the top of it for dispersion. I'll have to see if it's removable, other than just snapping it off. Good luck on the interview.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:18 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Sonic; Go ahead and take a few $$$ outa petty cash! Celebrate that b-day right!
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:16 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Robert; I'm having terrible problems with my Pioneer combi player. It sure would be nice to get a free Elite DVD player to keep me from trashing Pioneer all over the web.
(jk)
Gar ( 169.207.194.99 ) at 10:53 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Had a digital camera for a couple of days

Robert: Quit teasing us with those 38A Elite DVD Players...... I sure could use one of the new AX10 if you have one at a decent price
Gar ( 169.207.194.99 ) at 10:45 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
DVDs, Post what you think are good buys

Joe: I saw that on Letterman last night too, I though it was very funny.
Gar ( 169.207.194.99 ) at 10:44 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Britney

RickMTB:hehehe I was joking about the artist thing, forgot to put one of these up But I do like an artist more if he/She writes there own music or at least plays an instrument well. Britney is just nice to look at with her breast bouncing up and down when she is singing.... hahahahaha
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:09 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Ron H: You have e-mail!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 9:48 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Best of Luck

Ron H: Thanks a lot for the concern. After having just gone through a layoff to come here, obviously things are a little stressed. I was fortunate to have worked on a couple of key projects that worked out extremely well so I hope that helps. Anyway, its a tough time for those that stay as well (obviously worse for those that don't).

On another subject, was Scott able to help identify what's different about the way this forum works which might account for the new system's troubles posting here? Maybe we could walk through your internet settings to see if something is different?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 9:32 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Britney

RickMTB: Oops, I meant to say the fiddle player writes some of their somgs (including "Cowboy, Take me away").
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 9:30 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Britney

Gar: Speaking of attractive "artists" (using Gar's playing an instrument criteria, how about the two sisters in The Dixie Chicks. I really have it for the cute blonde that plays the fiddle, but the other sister that plays the banjo and steel guitar is also attractive and a talented musician. The banjo player also writes some of their songs (adding in another of Gar's requirements).
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 9:27 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Britney

Ron H: Yea, that wavering hand thing is annoying to me as well. Seems that Whitney Houston was one of the first to employ it, and Mariah Carey, and now Christina Aguilara Sp?). I *used* to find her attractive (I admit it it, her extremely tight package...) but I saw a picture of her in todays paper at the Blockbuster Awards (gee, is there anything so worthless and one of those?) and egads, she looks like something from the group Insane Clown Posse. Speaking of annoying singling styles, how about when the singer (read: Whitney Houston, but I think she got this from Diana Ross) sings with her arms outstretched to her sides ala a crucifixion scene. Oh, the drama...
Joe ( 152.163.205.52 ) at 9:26 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
DVDs, Post what you think are good buys

Gar: Morning all,

Have you guys been watching Letterman all week. On Monday he was talking about his big weekend plans with Lawance of Arbia disc. It turns out it is all blue and he was talking about how bad it was.

Tuesday: Letterman recieves a new Disc sent over by the companey. He is happy and says thats custmoer service.

Wenesday: It's not the disc but the player. Then he starts to trash the player in classic Letterman style. He starts with This is America I can say what I want, no Lawsuits here. The player a Pioneeer Combo.

Thursday: Pioneer offers to come on the show and present him with a New player. No he says just ship it to my house and trashes them somemore. He even holds up a picture form the web of the one he wants.

Out comes Tom Green with a brand new Sony 5 Disc player and gives it to Dave. Now I was drifting and I don't recall what Tom Green said about Pioneer, But Dave goes " Theres a lawsuit.

I wonder what willhappen tonight.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:25 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Had a digital camera for a couple of days

Robert: Where are the big Pioneers for music? What kind of speakers are those hanging from the rear, and what is that black tower looking speaker on the back wall? And when the hell you gonna finish that thing?
One last comment. You can't fish from that boat.

What lake are you on?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 9:21 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Kieran: Hmm... you guys and your clean hard drives. Hard disk costs are so low, and the machines run faster than most anyone ever needs... i would judge PCs by how human friendly (keyboard layout, mouse, screen, size and weight) and less those sorts of things.
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 9:06 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Ron H: Anything you need to know??? I gave you my address. I have cash for the screen. My Projector should (fingers crossed) arrive today on Friday the 13th! I hope to be watching a 100" image real soon!

Bill and I were talking about a GreyHawk prices. When I mentioned that I was getting a projector he said he would find some pricing for me.
Darian ( 66.44.12.238 ) at 9:03 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Happy BDay Sonic! Get any money you want to turn over to me and Joe???
BAGMAN ( 209.26.246.90 ) at 8:43 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Happy B'Day Mr. Bit, Overindulge in some manner today.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 7:25 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Good morning all!

Happy Birthday Sonic!

Robert - The HT is looking great!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:16 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Good morning and happy Easter to all!

AVB: Good luck on Monday.

Ron H: I would lean towards the SL3 becasue US$1,000 is a lot of $$$. That said, I would listen to the Ascents and determine whether there is a US$1,000 difference. If yes, then I would spend the extra $$$. I also echo Derb's comments re: Scripts. As you know I was looking at an all ML system at one point and would have definitely gone with the Scripts over the Scenarios for the rears.

Sonic: Happy Birthday!
AVB ( 64.41.32.156 ) at 7:14 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Trivia repost!

In honor of the start of the baseball season. What living current or former professional baseball player has the most League and world series championship rings? Name the person and the ring count. Just to make it easy, we'll leave out the overseas teams from Japan, Korea et al.

Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
AVB ( 64.41.32.156 ) at 7:12 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
AMP

Darian: What are you going to replace it with?
AVB ( 64.41.32.156 ) at 7:12 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Center Speaker

BIG AL: Yes! Get the same type for your center speaker. If the tweeter has any masking around it, it will have to be moved. Usually the masking is vertical when the speaker is on it's end and would have to be changed to keep it vertical when you lay it on the side. If you don't have any masking then you can easily make some from open cell foam. The pieces should be about 3" long and 1.5" wide and placed so they are 1/8" from the sides of the tweeter. There is nothing wrong with the center being on it's side with a FP, just get or make a stand that will bring it to the bottom of the screen. I've had a perf screen and now don't as they do have an effect on the picture.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.212 ) at 5:56 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

SonicBit: Have a great B-Day guy.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.212 ) at 5:53 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darian: Is there something I need to know about before I send the package today?
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.73 ) at 4:46 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darian: I need a size for the screen. I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow so we'll have to put off a get-together until I return.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.105 ) at 4:08 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Happy Birfday Mr. Treasurer!
Ron H ( 63.26.163.150 ) at 3:44 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Had a digital camera for a couple of days

Robert:The room is looking good. I really like the Self Portrait.
Robert ( 63.11.55.178 ) at 2:43 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Had a digital camera for a couple of days

http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Community=HTStuff&ID_Topic=1&ViewType=W

I can't do html to save my life. But here's couple of in progress but functional shots.
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 2:20 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Haven't seen the Sparticus new DVD yet, is it out? Also the transfer on Ben Hur is excellent.
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 2:19 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Britney

Kieran: Bubble gum pop/rock..... She is cutie but that is about it. Give me Faith Hill or Shania.. I think they all are good preformers, but I wouldn't call them Artists... To me a artists can write there own music sing in well and play an instrument. Oh and the silicone.....
Kieran ( 207.214.148.53 ) at 1:59 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
DVDs, Post what you think are good buys

Gar: I'm planning on getting, within the next month:
Lawrence of Arabia
Sparticus (criterion ed.)
Ben Hur
Rocky (sp. ed.)
Superman (sp. ed.)

Others that I have thought of recently:
Guns of Navarone
A Bridge too Far (is this out yet?)
Kieran ( 207.214.148.53 ) at 1:51 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Britney

Ron H: I think what I said came across poorly. Absolutely it was developed here, but the pop artist who uses it well... can't remember which one... Whitney, or Mariah, or Janet Jackson... for her it works, IMHO, and I even kinda like it. But for Christina it just seems like shameless copying... like Vanila Ice trying to be a home-boyeeeee. It isn't original, and it just doesn't fit her, IMHO.
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 1:50 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
DVDs, Post what you think are good buys

Lawerence of Arabia is a excellent DVD, the movie is also very good. The close up shots look fantastic.... and the extras are great.... highy recommend this film and Bridge over the River Kwai....
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 1:48 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001
Men Of Honor

Tony C: In general it was a good flick.... Enjoyed it....
Kieran ( 207.214.148.53 ) at 1:46 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Happy B-Day Sonic!!!!
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 1:36 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Happy B-Day Sonic!! Have a great weekend...........:)
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.252 ) at 12:26 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Now I have to start getting the saltwater tank ready, so I can bring home my 4' moray. He's not happy with his temporary home either. And 2 things you want to keep happy are morays, and gators! Especially if you want to keep all your fingers! That reminds me...I need to call the guy with the baby tigers.

BIG AL ( 204.248.61.252 ) at 12:17 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Well Lacerator the Gator's home is finally finished! He'll have 7sq ft of land at 85 degrees F, and 24 cubic ft of 75 degree water. Oh man! Is he ever gonna be happy to get out of that little tub!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.252 ) at 12:11 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

Darian; Man! Your hand me downs are expensive!!! The 3k6SE.....I hate to say it....way too much power! For me anyway.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.252 ) at 12:06 AM EST Friday, April 13, 2001

I have the chance to buy a single Boston VR40 to match my other 4. The center speaker I'm using has the same drivers, 2-6.5" woofers 3" mid and tweet, but with the mid and tweet between the woofers, not on top of, like the towers. The tower is about 15" longer (on it's side). I would have 5 matching towers then, but would have to lay the center on it's side, on top of the TV(yes it will fit with 1' behind, and 5" on either side). At least till my HT room is built. I suppose I could just store it till then too. Looking for opinions on;
1) Will laying the tower on it's side really screw up the imaging.
2) Will a 40" tower be hard to place as center using a FP/screen?
7' ceiling, -40" leaves 44" -say 4" for a space above the screen, that would leave a screen height of 40". That's about a 71" wide 16x9 screen. Way too small! With a perf screen, and the speaker behind it(on a stand), the bottom half of the speaker would be visible below the screen, and look bad.
3) I could build a stand, and lay the tower on it's side, below the screen, but then we're back to the imaging thing.
4) The center is a very close match to the towers, but another tower would be perfect.
The room will be about 15' x 22', with the screen on the short side, so seating distance isn't a problem.
Any opinions, or experiences apreciated.
Darian ( 66.44.18.142 ) at 11:53 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Wild Bill: Where is that screen price you mentioned? Email me at the add below. Also we need to get together to look at the EAD DVD player.
Darian ( 66.44.18.142 ) at 11:52 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Anyone interested in a Cinepro 3k6seII/III?
cnichol@rcn.com
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:20 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Men Of Honor

Not riveting.
It was ok. I don't know what liberties Hollywood took with the true story.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:17 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Top Ten Rejected Puff Daddy Names
10. Puff Boy-Ar-Dee
9. Pippy Puffstocking
8. Piddy Piddy Bang Bang
7. Howdy Diddy
6. P. Cougar Mellendiddy
5. P. Wah Diddy Diddy-Dum Diddy Doo
4. Milk Duddy
3. The Artist Formerly Known As Guilty
2. P. Blicity Stunt
1. J-Lonely
Darian ( 66.44.18.142 ) at 11:13 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
The Word

Derb: Plan of attack. Due to the conversation with the engineering dept today. Think July or August. The release date for the updates and new units has been moved from the end of this month to June 1. Take into the time required to amass a bunch of used boards... I am thinking July. Also the developement of a daughter board for DPL II. Make that August.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.15 ) at 11:02 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

Gar: I dunno... the things kids are wearing these days are pretty sick too...
AVB ( 64.41.33.230 ) at 10:33 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Trivia!

Chris L.: Sorry, that is not correct, click on my name to send me an email and I'll let you know where to mail your donation.
Gar ( 169.207.194.16 ) at 10:30 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H:The SLs would be a great buy at that price...
Gar ( 169.207.194.16 ) at 10:29 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

Ron H: Disco Sucks!!!!! I agree 110% on that, the 70s and part of the 80s it was ugly clothing and hair.. To see kids now going back to that makes me ill.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.171 ) at 9:57 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

CuRTis: God I hope not. The diso years were the worst years for music I have ever heard, and the clothing well what can one say. YUCK.......
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.253 ) at 9:57 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Chris L.: ... but the truth is out there. By the way, where's the new HT pictures??? HMMM?
Ron H ( 63.232.68.171 ) at 9:56 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Best of Luck

Rick MTB: I heard from a friend that the ax has been falling the past day or so for many employees at Compaq. My best wishes and prayers are with you.
CuRTis ( 64.170.153.117 ) at 9:52 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

Ron H:LOL! But What are these people going to do for fun when the show is over for good after next season? Dress like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever while re-reviving disco's?
Ron H ( 63.232.68.171 ) at 9:50 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

CuRTis: I like the tacky girls part.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.171 ) at 9:50 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan

I have a line on a set of Demo Ascents for $3100. I also found a dealer who has a set of SL'3s used for $2099. any comments as to which would be the best buy?

The Ascents are the replacement for the discontinued SL's. The Ascents list for over $4000.
CuRTis ( 64.170.153.117 ) at 9:27 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

Kieran: It repeats several other times per week on HBO East in HD. Tuesday at 7PM, Wed. at 8PM (PST) off the top of my head.

The Mom of a friend in NJ reports that the hottest local hangouts these days are the many Bada Bing-type strip clubs. A few years ago they were deserted. Now everyone does their best to dress like made guys/ tacky girlfriends in lines that extend forever.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:55 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Beleive=believe What was it my english teacher told me..."There's a lie in believe."
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:53 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Trivia!

AVB: Isn't it a tossup between Paul O'Neill and David Cone? I beleive they both have 5 rings. ::shrug::
Ron H ( 63.232.68.171 ) at 8:50 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Thanks to all for all the help and suggestions on the Logans.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.171 ) at 8:49 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Britney

Kieran: I do not think the hand thing works for anyone. It seems to me that most Africans were born in this country so it was something developed here.
AVB ( 64.41.32.241 ) at 8:31 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Trivia!

In honor of the start of the baseball season. What living current or former professional baseball player has the most League and world series championship rings? Name the person and the ring count. Just to make it easy, we'll leave out the overseas teams from Japan, Korea et al.

Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
AVB ( 64.41.32.241 ) at 8:26 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Address?

Gar: Just click on my name and I'll reply with my address. Thanks for remembering.
BC ( 63.26.230.42 ) at 8:26 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Britney

Tony C: Dude, I wanna hang out with you for a few days!
Derb ( 199.174.5.60 ) at 8:14 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
e-mail

trav1: e-mail on its way
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:57 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Scott "popcorn": I'm sure it's possible... heck there were plenty of people with NT 4.x installed on laptops... it just wasn't popular, nor easy to install or support. But I'm sure Be would be great on a laptop, since its so resource friendly, and laptops are usually short on resources (compared to desktops anyway).
Derb ( 199.174.5.60 ) at 7:56 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
The Word

Darian: That would be great. Let me know what EAD plans on doing and I'll send in my old EAD for the up-grade. And you did a fine job of sparking my interst in your Ovation + but I can't see myself spending another $3100 bucks to get what I would "like" to have, not really "need".
I can squeak by with what I got for a good while. Once again, thanx for your help in talking with EAD, I really hope this plays out. As a rough guess, when do expect EAD to know thier plan of attack.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:54 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

trav1: 11:30 at night!? Man I'll have to tape it... I've got to get my sleep Saturday night, as I'm driving the folks to SFO (2 hour drive) for an 8am flight Sunday. Then I've got a date Sunday at noon! Who KNOWS how long THAT could last!

This should be interesting (taping the show that is), as I've never taped anything off Dish network before. My parent's never use the VCR anymore (I'm so proud) so it's not even hooked up to the Dish receiver.

Maybe it's time I use my $50 BB certificate and get that JVC SVHS deck I've been wanting...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.253 ) at 7:54 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Thought I'd add that some people *are* running BeOS on a laptop... including at least one person that works for Be.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.253 ) at 7:53 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Kieran: Yeah, that's the problem... support. Be has never officially said BeOS can be installed on a laptop. I don't know how far third-party developers have come... But, depending on the chipset in the unit, and if the hard drive is easilly removable, I'd install it with the hard drive in a desktop, then move the drive over to the laptop... I hear that some laptops do have supported hardware.
trav1 ( 64.154.186.224 ) at 7:48 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

Kieran: Yes, it appears it will be replaying Saturday night at 11:30. Hopefully someone will be able to find out the name of that song. I don't even know how to go about it.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:44 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Britney

Tony C: Mmmmmm is right. Damn she's cute.
Christina? BITCH
LOL! Never met her, but that's my impression of her just from how she presents herself. And that stupid thing she does with her hand while she's singing... she needs to look in a mirror and realize that she's not of African descent, and it doesn't work for her!
Derb ( 199.174.5.60 ) at 7:41 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: I would have bought the Scripts if I had a good wall to mount them. The Scenarios sit a little low for surrounds. I think the Scripts would be a little more flexiable, once you found the right place to mount them. Bring them home and do a Demo. I saw that one add in the Houston Cronical some time back for the ReQuests, so you might see if they are still listed. Other than that you might try a massive e-mail to everyone that carries Martin-Logan. Some store up in Maryland, I can't remember the name was willing to ship Martin-Logans. Shipping on a pair of new Scenarios was less than the Sales Tax paid in Houston.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:39 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Britney

Tony C: Between you and Curtis, we can live a full vicarious life.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:29 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Britney

I love Britney.
First time I met her, before the first album came out, she was still doing the routine with wearing the School-girl outfit. Mmmmmm.
She performed with two dancers to a group of retailers. About 80 people. She sang her heart out. We had to force people to take a picture with her.
I also remember, she got really sick that night. My Jive counterpart had to drive her to the emergency room. She looked so weak and fraile. ooooohh. Britney.
Christina? BITCH.

While I'm at it.
J-Lo. I only addressed her as Miss Lopez. Out of respect for Puff.
She was nice. She was quiet, and really stood in the backround while P-Diddy took all the glory during his last promo tour. Anyway, she treated me pretty good. Especially after she knew Puffy was pissed at me.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:19 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Address?

Gar: No problem whatsoever. Family first, this place can wait.
Gar ( 169.207.192.229 ) at 7:16 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Address?

AVB/Sonic :AVB,I still own you 3 bucks for my guess, e-mail me your address. Also Sonic I just sent out $20 bucks for the forum dues... Sorry I didn't get it out sooner, son has been in and out of the hospital....
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:01 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Scott "popcorn": Gee, pop. I'd have never guessed you'd mention BeOS. LOL
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 6:57 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Scott "popcorn": I dunno about Be on a laptop. One reason why Win NT 4.x was so unpopular on laptops was because of the lack of drivers (not plug and play). Installation and setup was a pain! Now that win2k is plug and play, everybody's putting it on their laptops. Does Be have the driver support for laptops? It's not easy obtaining all the proper drivers for all those proprietary devices in Laptops. Sure the O/S itself may be well suited for laptops, but whether its feasable right now or not is my question.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.253 ) at 6:53 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Kieran: Well, he SAID he'd ship the box this week... I won't know until I see the whites of its eyes.

Re: Vaio; I know you guys are tired of hearing about it, but IMO, a notebook is best served with BeOS. That's what I'd want on a notebook, even if I didn't run it on the desktop...
AVB ( 64.41.32.141 ) at 6:40 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Interview

JBC: It went well, I'll be going back for the second round on Monday.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:36 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

AVB: Congrats on getting the 30 amp line in. On a personal note, how did the interview go?
AVB ( 64.41.32.141 ) at 6:33 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
We have the power

Fired up the new circuit, peaked 27 amps on the readout with Floyd's "One Of These Days". I would guess the other circuit was in the 18 amp range. My teeth are still loose.
BAGMAN ( 209.26.246.90 ) at 6:07 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Fake on both counts but then I only looked for two or three seconds. May require further study.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 5:39 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Woops, joke omission

This was left out, due to the use of square brackets:
"daven Mincha" = say the afternoon prayer service.
"shul" = synagogue
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 5:34 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Joke of the day (it's Easter time after all...)

Taken from rec.humor.funny joke archives:
This evening, the doorbell rang. We live in a predominantly Jewish suburban neighborhood of single family houses, a demographic fact known far and wide. I opened the door and was greeted by a nicely dressed man.

"I have come to bring Jesus to your home," he said.

I reacted almost immediately and asked, "Is he coming for dinner?"

The man said, "He will come any time you are ready."

Aha, I had a live one. "Well, tonight we're having a stir fry. Does Jesus like chicken?" I asked. The man's eyes glazed slightly. "I don't know if he still keeps kosher, after all these years," I continued, "but this is a kosher home, so he'll be able to eat."

The man fumbled into a briefcase and handed me a printed brochure, which I ignored. "If he wants to daven Mincha before he comes, the shul is only three blocks from here," I said.

He gulped, "What?"

I repeated my statement and added, "You mean Jesus Christ, don't you?" He nodded. I continued, "Born in Bethlehem?" He nodded and started to back away from my door. I smiled and said, "If that's the guy, he's Jewish." As he started to turn away, I said, "You're invited too, but no butter on your dinner roll," and the guy almost ran down the walk.

My wife asked me who was at the door and I told her, "Some friend of Jesus."

She knows me. She shrugged. "And did you invite him in?" she asked.

I nodded, "Sure. I invited him and Jesus to dinner, but the guy ran away."

She walked back into her office, and said over her shoulder, "You don't speak Aramaic, dummy. Jesus would have a lousy evening here."

I told you, she knows me. I forgot all about the language problem.

(Note - originally written by Leon Schwarzbaum (wordswords@att.net) and posted with his permission - ed.)

AVB ( 64.41.32.48 ) at 5:24 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Certifacation

BC: The "boot camp" style programs (10 days) can cost up to $7K each. Some schools offer them for less but it takes 8 months or more to get through them on a part time basis. The best way is to get your employer to pay either through tuition reimbursment or as job specific training for the company.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 5:22 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

RickMTB: Doesn't seem like they're in my price range. Thanks anyway!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:15 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

ok guys here it is. this is disgusting and vulgar. I am regretting posting it. I have only looked at it once, honest! http://www.mothraresearch.com/real.html
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:05 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

RickMTB: I wouldn't mind VIAO if it weren't for the fact that they jam more useless crap on the HD's than anyone! If I could wipe the HD and re-install JUST the O/S... I'd like VIAO's a lot more!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 5:03 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

BC: I didn't give it much thought at the time. Maybe it is doctored, I don't know. I didn't save the link, though. Post it again, and I'll give it a closer look...
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 5:02 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

SonicBit: Just to throw a third possibility in there... surprise, I'd suggest the Sony Vaio series. They are not only small, but their displays are very impressive. And I don't think I have heard anyone complain about the quality of their laptops. Oh, you were expecting me to suggest another brand?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 4:35 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Kieran, that's the pic! Do you think it is a real pic or doctored up? I immediately assumed it was a fake (yea, those too!)
Sonic - I would have been happy with Dell but since BB is local and offers 18 months no interest, I couldn't pass it up.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 4:24 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

SonicBit: ...And I WILL pay you some day, I PROMISE! I'll pay you when Popcorn receives his SGI box from Curtis, how about that?

Oh, shoot... Curtis just recently shipped that didn't he??? Hmmmm... I need another distant goal now...
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:15 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

Kieran: Stop making this complicated! LOL I hear what you're saying. I'm a couple weeks away from committing so I'm still in search mode. I'll take all advice/suggestions and filter as required.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:13 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

SonicBit: You may find, if you look closely enough, that several of the big name laptops are essentially identical. A couple of people here at Agilent have HP laptops that are essentially the same as the Dell I got from Curtis for my Dad. The shaping and contouring of the plastic exterior is a little different, but all the primary functional buttons and ports are exactly the same, in the same location, everything. My point is, as far as quality goes, one company is probably just as good as another, because none of them actually make the laptops. Go with the store or company you feel will give you the best support when things go wrong. Dell is good, but sometimes, nothing beats being able to walk into the store where you bought it and say, "fix or replace it, please!"
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:08 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

BC: The pic of her with the pink celophane wraped around her top? Yeah, saw it. Actually, I wasn't super inpressed with those pics. She shouldn't have gone the silicone route, IMHO. But she's still HOT nonetheless. The new Pepsi commercial ain't too bad, either... I know just how that dude in the burger kitchen feels!
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:07 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

BC: LOL, the only problem is that I really like the Dell better. Looking at the Inspiron 8000. 15" screen/P3-700/128M/16M video/10G drive/8XDVD. Only $1647. Tempting, but don't want to rush in.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:53 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Kieran: I take it yall saw the pics at mothra or whatever it is.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:52 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

SonicBit: gotta love those rebates! when I got mine they only had one rebate. I was in the next week and the laptop was marked down another 100 bucks, the printer I bought was down $20, and the memorey was down $5. Glad I stopped by there!
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:26 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

The laptop at BB was a Toshiba, btw.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:22 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

BC: Yeah, it looks like it will either be a Dell or a Toshiba. BB has two $100 mail in rebates on their laptops. Takes the price from 1699 to 1499(eventually).

But I just feel better buying a Dell. I don't know why. I just do.

Darian ( 66.44.16.106 ) at 3:10 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Kieran: Nope its not the Philips either. Panasonic maybe. They were the big supporters of 720P from the word go.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 3:10 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Car Stereo

RB: the MB Quarts are great speakers, but I don't believe they allow mail order sales of their products. i did a quick search and a few mail order places advertise selling them, but I don't think MB Quart will honor warranties. That warning stated, the following mail order places advertised them: www.audio-n-more.com ; www.mmxpress.com ; www.carstereomall.com . I have a factory Bose setup in my car, but I have been impressed with systems that utilize component speakers from such easy-to-find vendors as Pioneer, Polk, and Boston Acoustics...
RB ( 64.12.104.53 ) at 2:52 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Kieran: MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm......Silicone
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:51 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Gasgeek: I agree with you re. DTS music CD's... while I like some of them for their surround effects, I feel that for pure music quality, the PCM 2.0 CD is usually better. Howver to be fair, I have yet to hear a Dolby Digital 5.1 music recording that impressed me AT ALL.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:48 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Gasgeek:
{voice=Homer Simposn}
MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm......Britney Speeeeaaaarsss....
{/voice}
RB ( 64.12.104.53 ) at 2:35 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Car Stereo

RickMTB: Thanks for the vote of confidence. The stuff arrives tomorrow
and the salesman said it would not take more than two hours to install. Do you or anybody else know a place to buy MB Quarts speakers from? Or even better, is there a comparable speaker that Crutchfield carries? I heard them at 6th Ave and they sounded great but they're $280 a pair before installation. Ouch!
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:12 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Darian: Thanks for the offer. My stereo version of "Road Tested" is exquisite. My VHS version sounds pretty good in stereo. As for your pre/amp, I'd love to but can't afford it right now. Although it's not clear, my prior post was ranting about someone's decision to not release the DVD version. I literally waited 8 months so that I could have it on DVD after I gave my LD to Winston, and it didn't happen. There are so many great concerts in the can and the studio's just aren't putting them out. Quit releasing Brittany Spears, Christina Aguilar and InSync DVDs and give us some more real concerts.

I've still got to say that IMHO, the dts version just doesn't have the overall sparkle of the stereo CD. You must remember that the systems I listen to dts on are just about as good as any you'll find around. There are better systems out there, but the store systems are not what you would call average. As a matter of fact, the preamp that I usually listen to at the stereo store is the EAD Signature or Primare, usually with the EAD2000 amp, Elite DVD players of one type or other and the speakers range from currently James Speeakers,or NHT VT-3's or 3.3's., German Physics, Mirage, Meadowlark, Tannoy concentrics, etc.

Remember again, that this os just my very humble opinion, but to my old ears, the dts is interesting, but just doesn't have the 2 channel detail. (To be honest, as I've stated before, I found this to be true with almost all of the dts music CDs I've heard. Interesting, but ehhh!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.253 ) at 1:58 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
CD burning... DTS CD's.

Kieran: In theory, it should work no problem. I'd try it myself, but since I use BeOS, I wouldn't be "testing" as such, becuase Windows apps might rip the CD differently
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.253 ) at 1:56 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Posting problems...

Ron H: Click my name to send me an e-mail... I'm not sure how much help I'll be getting things to work (has to be some sort of setting in your browser), but I'll give it a shot. The forum uses a CGI called readparse.cgi to handle the forms. I don't know where BYork got it.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:56 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
CD burning... DTS CD's.

Darian mentioned burning a copy of the Road Tested CD for Gasgeek... Other than the fact that Gas doesn't have dts, why would this have to be downconverted to stereo? Couldn't you just do a straight disc copy of a DTS CD, and play it in your dts sound system just fine? Has anyone ever tried this? Just wondering...
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:52 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Elite 720P?

Robert: It must have been Philips RPTV's then... some company that starts with a 'P' anyway... all or most of their RPTV's do 720p, or so I was told.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 1:51 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Road Tested 5.1 DTS

Gasgeek: You wrote "I don't have dts anyway."

Oops........ my bad!!!
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 1:51 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Morning all.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 1:49 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

AVB: You have mail.
Darian ( 66.44.22.37 ) at 1:41 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Gasgeek: I habe the DTS CD you mention and it sounds real good on my system. Maybe you should buy my preamp!!!

Actually. I have a CD bruner and I could use the EAD to create a good Stereo Downmix. Would you be interested in this?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:32 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Make that coming in 1/2001.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:30 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Curtis/Spleen: I was in meetings all day yesterday immediately after my post to JJ. Didn't get to respond. Here's the deal Curtis on why the Spleen is mentioning the Bonnie Raitt, Road Tested disc. I am a big fan of this particular recording. Some of you may remember me ranting about it several years ago. I had the demo cassettes before it was released. Loved it. Immediately got the CD when it came out. My buddy who got me the demos got his hands on a VHS from the studio of the concert. During my brief LD period, I was able to find an LD version of the "Road Tested" LD. It was one of the few reasons I even considered keeping my LD player. When I traded my Elite 79 to Winston, I threw the LD in, because I'm such a sweetheart of a guy. (That and I made three VHS copies and the release to DVD was listed on DVDExpress as coming in 1/2000 for about 8 months, so it was a matter of time.) Winston and his SO loved it. Her girlfriend went out to find it on some medium she could enjoy.

My dealer got a copy of the dts CD when it first came out and I've got to tell you the truth, to my ears, sonically, it's not as good as the stereo CD. Muddled, compressed and the usually horns, vocals and other assorted crap out of the rears.

So now, after a year and a half of anticipation, the DVD version is no longer listed anywhere (label decided not to release it or something), I don't have dts anyway, and I'm not a happy camper. I was bitchin' to Winston about it. Oh well!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 1:10 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Certifacation

AVB: What is involved in getting one of those type certifications (time, price, etc.)? I know nothing about the process but have been thinking about getting some type of certification to make myself more marketable.
AVB ( 64.41.32.229 ) at 1:08 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
30 amps

By the end of today I'll have my 30 amp feed to the Power Supply 30/ PowerPro 30. This will give me 65 amps in the HT room after I reconfigure the panel. I think that should do it.

If you california folks brown out just give me a yell and I'll turn it up some more.
Chris L. ( 205.188.193.41 ) at 1:03 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan's

Ron H.: Actually I shouldn't say no floor models, I haven't called them yet. I've been to the store and it's pretty high-end stuff with several rooms set up so maybe they do. When you're able to post again let me know if you want me to check and possibly what you want to pay for them. Salem is only about 10 minutes from my work.
AVB ( 64.41.32.229 ) at 1:03 PM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Certifacation

Joe: The Novell route is the easier of the two. You can get your CNE just by studing while the MCSE is a more hands on test. I have both but the hot one is CISCO. I know people with little background in network admin who got their CCNP/CCDP and make more then I do. You can walk out of school having passed the CCIE course and start at $90K in the DC area with no previous expierance. Of course, it is the most demanding certifacation in networking.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 11:59 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Popcorn or Brian: Help on Forum Posting

Actually, anyone involved in the HT Forum development. Ron H is having troubles posting to the forum from his new system at work. It appears he is able to post to other forums so it appears that there is some unique way posts happen here that are 9or contribute) to his problem. Is there any way you can either post of email info on how posting works on the Forum (and how it might differ from other bulletin boards) so we can figure what needs to happen for Ron to be able to post? Thanks!
Chris L. ( 152.163.201.68 ) at 11:49 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan's

Ron h: Soory bud...nothing here in Salem or Nashua. Ensemble Home Theater in Salem carries them though, but no floor models.
Robert ( 63.11.60.223 ) at 11:35 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Elite 720P?

Kieran: Converts to 1080i,,,480i to 480p,,480p to 480p,,anything higher goes to 1080i
Darian ( 66.44.22.37 ) at 11:31 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
What preamp are you going to...

JBC:Darian: WHat I do not understand is what is the difference between and upgraded unit and a new unit? Is it not the case that they will be identical (i.e. same cosmetics, same display, same functionality, same OS, etc.)?

Cosmetically there will be differances. EAD has gone to a new V-Cut front panel. I figured a EAD owner or interested person may want to have the vertical face plate and stellar sound of this unit. Further more, some people just don't seem interested in the updates. Getting a fully warrantied dealer demo for $2400 off. I thought that might appeal to someone. Derb for instance showed more interest in the Ovation+ upgrade then the new TM-8. It seemed like a good match. He gets an Ovation+ and I just order a new unit. I misjudged his interest. So i thought I would offer the unit to you guys.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:02 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan's

Ron - no go on the speakers up here. All stores are out.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 10:40 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
What preamp are you going to...

Darian: WHat I do not understand is what is the difference between and upgraded unit and a new unit? Is it not the case that they will be identical (i.e. same cosmetics, same display, same functionality, same OS, etc.)?
Darian ( 66.44.22.37 ) at 10:25 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
The Word

Derb: I am not sure about the recylce thing yet. What I do know is that EAD has stopped production of the 5.1 Ovation, Ovation + and Signature for now. Plans are still up on the air for what they will do with the parts that they get back. I did talk to them about your case. Once plans are finalized I will pass on the info.
Darian ( 66.44.22.37 ) at 10:21 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
What preamp are you going to...

JBC: Need to have one of the TM-8s to show for work.

Anyone here interested in my preamp? I was going to just get it upgraded by EAD to the new 8 channel standard. I don't really have room or amps for the 8 channels but I need to have a current unit to show clients. Seems like someone might be interested in the unit as a stereo DAC and 5.1 processor.
BAGMAN ( 209.26.2.194 ) at 9:53 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Morning All, Nine sraight days with company has come to an end. The HT got a constant workout. Very quiet now.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.97 ) at 9:12 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
OT, then again you need juice for HT

JBC:There are about 5 days per year in my town where it gets uncomfortably hot. Very few houses have or need AC. Palm Springs residents would rather starve than go without AC for a summer.
Joe ( 205.188.195.57 ) at 8:44 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Morning all.

I am off to my second interview this morning. I have to admit the thing I had to lie about yesterday was my intentions. I looked right at the HR Manager and gave a nice line about working for a stable companey Yada yada Yada ( thanks kieran) When my real intentions are just a place to work when I go back to school and get a a Computer Science degree.

I am thinking something in systems adminastration. Any of you computer geeks ( again said nicely) have some suggestions. The one program I am looking at has the classes in the program to get MS & Novell certifacation
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 8:38 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
OT, then again you need juice for HT

CuRTis: I know that it is easy for me to say as I do not live in California but for me air conditioning is a must and I would pay a great deal to keep it going!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.97 ) at 8:29 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
OT, then again you need juice for HT

In August '99 California paid $40 per megawatt-hour on the spot market. Last August it was $147. Futures for this coming August are currently trading at $750 (at the AZ border). It's not just California but much of the west.

Blackouts this summer are certain. The Enron's of the world (outside energy providers)insist they aren't gouging yet I doubt they're losing big bucks.

Conservation by businesses and consumers is important. I feel for anyone away from the coast without air conditioning this summer. Something clearly must be done about the ransome being paid. One radical idea being discussed is to simply play chicken; refuse to pay overinflated prices on the spot markets and let the power go off. With zero demand the price of the supply would have to come down.

Off soapbox now.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 7:49 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: I looked up the numbers. There are 3 stores here. I will call as soon as they open.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.52 ) at 7:33 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
MAartin Logan

JBC: Thanks for the reminder.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.52 ) at 7:31 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan

BC: If you could check it out for me that would be great.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.52 ) at 7:30 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Martin Logan

RickMTB: Please send me your email addy so I can send a explanation of my problem trying to post on my computer at the office.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 7:30 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

SonicBit: I just bought a toshiba satellite from BB. $1599, 700 PIII, 10 gig hard drive, 128 Meg, 14.1" active matrix TFT screen, 8Xdvd rom, network card, modem, etc. 18 months, no interest. From the suggestions I got, toshiba or Dell are the way to go.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:28 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
MAartin Logan

Ron H: There was a posting in alt.home-theater.marketplace and alt.audio.marketplace of a guy in Houston selling a relative new pair of ReQuests. You might recall that I e-mail this to you a while back. You might want to see whether it is still there.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:22 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Good morning everyone.
Kieran ( 207.214.121.2 ) at 2:46 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

trav1: Don't know... but is this week's episode repeating again before Sunday? I missed it.
Kieran ( 207.214.121.2 ) at 2:41 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

David: don't you mean 720p? I believe all Pioneer RPTV HD sets do 720p... could be wrong though.
trav1 ( 209.245.164.127 ) at 2:11 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Sopranos

Can anyone tell me the name of the song playing while the end credits are running from this weeks latest episode?
David ( 205.156.192.21 ) at 1:08 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001

Hey guys still looking for a 720i TV. Sampo sounds like a bad shampoo...Sorry Pop I was responding to your comment on the Anthem unit, I own one and for the price I would say Gar would be hard pressed to beat it with all the features it has. I would say it is a better all around buy then the Sony Pre/Pro..... You can pick them up for around $1600.00
David ( 205.156.192.21 ) at 1:04 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Hmmmm Interesting...

Scott "popcorn":Pop from the looks of what the unit has to offer it does it right better then anyone else.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 12:33 AM EST Thursday, April 12, 2001
Looking for a laptop

I went through the archives looking for suggestions, but thought I'd ask for more current ones.

Budget? 1500-1700.
Use? Mostly surfing, chatting online.
Sreen size? 14.1, at least.

I'm not going to play games or do any heavy computing on it.

Actually, I'm planning on setting up a wireless network for it so I can use it online outside on the patio and share my DSL connection. 3Com has a nice wireless router that I can hardwire my desktop to, while roaming with my laptop. But, I'm also open to (inexpensive) suggestions for that too.

Thanks in advance!

BC ( 63.26.229.180 ) at 10:20 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: Ron, there are a number of Tweeter stores here in the Dallas area. I know the store here in Plano carries ML. If you find out one of the stores here has them and need some help picking them up, shipping, etc. just let me know. I can also make a few phone calls for you tomorrow and see if they have any requests left if you would like.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.209 ) at 10:09 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: Its a long shot, but have you considered going to their (Tweeters) web site and sending emails to every store asking if they have floor models? You may just hit on a store ('course, the shipping might be scary)...
Ron H ( 63.26.174.242 ) at 10:04 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Martin Logan

Chris L.:Thanks for the offer. Not all Tweeter stores carry ML's.
trav1 ( 63.214.15.237 ) at 9:45 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
gar pre/pro

gar: You ever looked into the B&K Ref 30? Seems to pick up on the shortfalls that the Parasound unit has. Favorable reviews as well.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 9:37 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Martin Logan

Ron H: I'll check both the local Tweeters and see if they have any. Funny though, I don't remember seeing any ML gear there before. But maybe I just wasn't looking.
Either way.....
Ron H ( 63.26.185.207 ) at 9:08 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Martin Logan

Derb: I still can not get over missing out on Tweeters selling off their Request floor models for $2440. I need to find a time machine to turn the calender back a few days. It looks like I may get a set of the Scripts this week. They also have a set of Scenerios demos that I can pick up for $1600 but not sure if they would be a better choice than the Scripts for surround use. Any thoughts?

Any of you guys know of any dealers who may have the Martin Logan Requests still on the floor that they need to move?
Derb ( 199.174.0.18 ) at 7:43 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
NO Mail

trav1: It did not get it. Try my work bderby@scotindustries.com
Derb ( 199.174.0.18 ) at 7:40 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
The Word

Darian: I did not say it was not a good deal. $500.00 bucks for the up-grade. But you left out the part about me sending you $3100.00 bucks for the a "pre-owned" EAD and myself having to sell my old EAD. I don't want to sell my old EAD, I find it a pain in the ass to sell used equipment, I would rather give it to someone in my family. I'll buy an whole new pre-amp/processor before I'll sell any used equipment. All I would end up with is two used EAD's and out off pocket another $3100.00 bucks. Again back to the orginal question, do you think EAD would recyle some used DAC's for me or you, If I returned my EAD Ovation back for the upgrades.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.25 ) at 7:16 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Concert Videos / Bonnie Raitt

Winston aka the Spleen: Good DTS discs. There's a killer B3 organ on Feeling of Falling that fills up a room in a hurry. Pretty good guest spots as well.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:44 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

AFternnon/evening all...

Darian: What pre/pro are getting to replace the Ovation Plus?

AVB: I played telephone tag with Adrian all day. I hope to speak with him tomorrow. I will get to you as soon as I do!
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 5:30 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Joe; 15 min. of planning(beer drinking), 15 min. to find the right breaker, 5 min. to move the TV, 15 min. rest (beer drinking), 10 min. to change outlet, plug in equipment, and move the TV back.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 5:25 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Concert Videos / Bonnie Raitt

Which reminds me......

Gasgeek, are you lurking out there?

Don't know if you're aware of this, but Bonnie Raitt - Road Tested is out on CD in DTS surround.... Ken Crane's got 'em in stock and might hold you until the DVD is released.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 5:20 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Pink Floyd

Joe: Yes, I've seen it, but it is fairly dated compared to their newer stuff in terms of picture and sound and the performance is just so-so IMO.

I own several Pink Floyd LDs and I would rank them in this order:
PULSE - the best of the best in terms of sound, picture and (especially) performance;
Delicate Sound of Thunder - good picture and performance, slightly sub-par sound;
La Carrera Panama - an unusual documentary mix of racing and interviews that looks and sounds okay but is not worth repeat viewing;
The Wall - better sound than the DVD but the picture isn't nearly as good.

All of these look and sound better than Pompei and you can be sure the LD will be a big improvement over the VHS tape.
Joe ( 152.163.213.194 ) at 5:04 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Winston

Since you are the Laser Disc man, have you ever seen Pink Floyd at Pompellia (sp)? I would like to get a copy of it. My VHS version just don't cut it.
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.7 ) at 5:03 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Joe: LOL
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 5:01 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Well just to follow up on my post last week about one of my tube amps going thermal, the problem turned out to be a simple blown resistor due to a tube going bad. I was able to solder in a new resistor myself and the tube was replaced under warranty so my total cost was less than $2 and a couple hours labor.

Something to be said for obsolete technology....
Joe ( 152.163.213.194 ) at 5:00 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

BIG AL: AL. it takes you a hour to change a outlet? Come on man you sure it's not 53 minutes of drinking beer and 7 minutes labor
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 4:58 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Good afternoon everyone.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 4:39 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Car Stereo

RB: Good decision, both on the player and mail order vendor. Crutchfield has been one of the best places to buy car stereos for many many years. They have great customer support, both before and after the sale.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.25 ) at 4:32 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Sampo

Darian: Sorry that you had such bad luck with the Sampo displays. I guess I just got lucky. It's interesting that Merson is nowhere to be found on the AVS forum when people have serious problems with a display that he gave rave reviews on.

The last thing I heard from him was that Sampo had signed on a national service network. Had I paid full boat for this thing and had problems with no resolution in sight, I would be pissed. It's worth about what I paid and fits in my space perfectly.

How tacky was that of Sampo to send a dealer to your house posing as a consumer? How and when did you find out the truth?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 4:30 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

BC: This was announce about 6 months ago. Fox intended on broadcasting the film in the spring. Since Fox's standard for their big prime time events is 480p 16:9, it was assumed that the film would be in this format. The 5.1 sound was more of a rumor, though.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 3:54 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Darian; I haven't even fully unpacked them! I pulled them out to look for damage, and check the plugs. Just as I thought, I'll have to change my outlets. I put in standard 20 amp, and I now need the sideways post style. A slight set-back. A trip to the hdwr store, and an hour work.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:52 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

RB - Your welcome. Glad you found something.
Star Wars - Was it gonna be broadcast in 480P, 5.1? I had not heard that, just heard a brief commercial saying it would aire. Sucks that they pulled it. I would have bought an HD decoder for that. Well, maybe.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 3:42 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
StarWars 1

johnbr: No big surprise there. There are enough people out there that can record HD broadcasts, that the risk of letting a 5.1, 480p, 16:9 anamorphic digital copy out to the public was too great for ol' George. Edit out the commercials, and presto! The dvd is on the (black) market 6 months early.

This broadcast was going to be the main reason why I would have had my DTC100 modified for recording HD to mini-DV. Not so I could distribute it, but so I could have it at home for myself.
RB ( 205.188.195.37 ) at 3:34 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Car Stereo

BC: Just ordered a Pioneer cassette w cd changer for $399 shipped from Crutchfield. Thanks again.
johnbr ( 24.112.158.228 ) at 3:19 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
StarWars 1

In the paper today it say's that Foxtv has pulled the broadcast of Phantom Menace.Fox say's it my show it in the fall.
Darian ( 66.44.6.99 ) at 3:10 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
You guys get first crack.

Anyone here interested in my preamp? I was going to just get it upgraded by EAD to the new 8 channel standard. I don't really have room for the 8 channels but I need to have a current unit to show clients. Seems like someone might be interested in the unit as a stereo DAC and 5.1 processor.

I worked out a deal for Derb, he doesn't seem interested. Dealer Demo EAD Ovation Plus Preamp. Unit is current with firmware, hardware and Bright blue VFD display that can be red from more than several feet away. 5 coaxail and 1 optical digital in.(Currnt back pannel)

Ovation Plus is an Ovation with the DAC board from The Signature. This was a $1000 add on to the Oations price. It gave you 99% of the Signatures AAA rated sound for $1000 less and let you keep video switching.

New Price: $5500. One of you guys $3100
Email me if interested and don't take up forum space. cnichol@rcn.com
Joe ( 152.163.213.193 ) at 2:07 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
MIC,

Thats a bad thing about DVD Express. On ther site they say they are upgrading the ordering software.

Where did you get the Chap 11 info?
Joe ( 152.163.213.193 ) at 2:06 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Afternoon all,

I went though a 75 minute interview this morning. I go back in the Morning to meet the Plant Manager. If this goes well I could be back at work. It would be a change for me, instead of Circuit Boards it's custom cabinetry.
Darian ( 66.44.6.99 ) at 1:56 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Sampo

Curtis: The units that is giving me propbelms is a replacement for a unit that had even more problems. It is manufactured in Sept. 2000. They requested that they be given the unit back to check it out. Since this is 2 for 2 I contacted my rep about it. Then nothing. My rep never mentioed it again. Then I heard nothing from Sampo.

As you can imagine... I no longer have anything to say about Sampo purchases. We lost all our sales to online dealers anyways. The best one yet was when Sampo sent a perspective dealer to my house under the guise of a consumer so he could see a set before purchasing. I had to buy the first unit for my comapny to get a look at one.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.96 ) at 1:47 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Hmmmm Interesting...

Gar: A software update isn't going to fix an oversight in the hardware... and an "add-on decoder" is not an option with a new $2.5K preamp. They should have done it right to begin with.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.25 ) at 1:36 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

... Sampo has managed to lose my service remote order. Back in line I go.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.25 ) at 1:35 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Sampo

Darian: Yes I have lurked on the thread & even posted yesterday. I'm not having any of the problems that the rest of you guys describe. Remember that my display was a new replacement for an original with cosmetic cabinet damage and came directly from Sampo's US HQ. They knew that they had a picky customer on their hands and gave him one from the latest batch.
Darian ( 66.44.6.99 ) at 1:25 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Sampo

Kieran/Curtis: I am sure Curtis said he had a Sampo Service remote on its way to him. I had offered to loan. I also posted the hex code for the menu button.

The Sampo service remote only has a special remote code to let you into the service menu. Adjustments are made wuith the normal menu/adjust buttons. Do a search and dig up the hex. Cut and paste it into a Pronto Edit and shoot it into a learning remote.

I am less and less happy with the Sampo here. It has some problems that we have been going over at AVS. Curtis... haven't you seen the threads over there?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:21 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

BigAl: Haven't seen you in the forum recently. how are those power products doing? Did you get them in the rack yet?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 12:05 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Sampo

CuRTis: I just thought of a solution for getting the service remote... if you know somebody who has one, you can copy it, I would think. Just pay them to buy a Rat Shack learning remote, and have them "teach" the RS remote all the service remote functions and nothing else. Have this friend write down what each button does, and mail it off to you. Maybe you thought of this before, but I just thought I'd make the suggestion anyway.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:00 PM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
cheap hdtv

A Princeton 27" HDTV, branded Sylvania, will display 1080i HDTV sources, upconvert NTSC to 480p, SVGA to 800x600, supports "Channel 1" internet service, usb devices, picture in portal for simultaneous internet/tv, and comes with a wireless keyboard. Releases in May for MSRP $899!
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 11:30 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Gasgeek: Okay. Thanks.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 10:28 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

JJ: I did se your post. I finally emailed him your address late yesterday afternoon. He's busy reorganizing another .com trying to keep it from going under. I'm sure he will contact you soon. If you haven't heard from him in a day or so, let me know and I will handle it.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 10:22 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
AVD-2000

woops
Gasgeek: See post below
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 10:21 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
DVD Express

Gasgeek: I don't know if you missed my post.
If your friend is still interested in selling his AVD-2000, please have him contact me jj@alexanderj.net
Thanks
mic ( 166.68.134.174 ) at 10:08 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
DVD Express

Joe: They are going out of business, filed chapter 11.
Gar ( 169.207.192.133 ) at 9:50 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
DVD Express

Joe: They have been pretty good for me, but then again I can get them at our local BB for around the same price.
Joe ( 205.188.200.138 ) at 9:36 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
DVD Express

I placed a order for Almost Famous, The Sixth Day and True Lies several weeks ago. I still have not recieved the order, and the site says out of stock.

Anyone else had delays with Express lately?
Gar ( 169.207.192.133 ) at 9:17 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
chroma upsampling error

mic: Frankly I think those guys look too hard for the flaws, and most general consumers and tech people like us don't see it. If its not there the first time don't look for it the next.
Gar ( 169.207.192.133 ) at 9:15 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Hmmmm Interesting...

Scott "popcorn": That could be done via Software..... EX/ES is good but not a big deal for me. I am sure they could have an external decoder for that also.
AVB ( 64.41.32.207 ) at 8:13 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Cable

kpd: Did you get the cable in time? I haven't heard from you.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 8:13 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

Cytotech: Why wake him? Let him sleep! Trust me, if he's hungry, he'll wake up. Nice letting your wife sleep. She needs it more than you do.
AVB ( 64.41.32.207 ) at 7:59 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

JBC: Back to ya!
mic ( 166.68.134.174 ) at 7:57 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
chroma upsampling error

I could not see the effect on my Sony DVP-CX850D 200 disk mega changer connected to a 35" Sony XBR 4:3 display or on my Toshiba SD-2109 on a Sony 19" 4:3 display. Maybe it's me and I can't pick it out, I zoom'd in with the Toshiba and still could not see it.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:51 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001

AVB: You have mail.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 7:48 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

Kieran: Stay tough dude! Wait at least 3 or 4 days since she already told you she would be "busy" hangin with "joe". Hopefully she is sitting around thinkin why hasn't keiran called me!
AVB ( 64.41.32.219 ) at 7:29 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Mail

JBC: You have mail. I'll be home until 10 and then on the road until 7 or 8pm.
AVB ( 64.41.32.219 ) at 7:18 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
AMP PSA

Cinepro 1K2SE $1400, no reserve on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1229296107
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.64 ) at 12:57 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Hmmmm Interesting...

Gar: Some interesting aspects to that preamp... But it doesn't do EX/ES, no 8 channel... I was thinking about a few other things too, but can't remember them now... But they are doing some things right
Gar ( 169.207.194.34 ) at 12:16 AM EST Wednesday, April 11, 2001
Hmmmm Interesting...

Robert: Anthem is owned by Sonic Frontiers of Canada, not sure if they own Paradigm.. But there is a sharing of information amoung the companies in Canada... From the looks of the spec sheet it has everything that you would want right now, for alot less money then the MC-1 or Meridian. I like that it has firewire and balanced hookups for all five channels. I currently own there MCA-1 Amp and love it, can't beat the price under $900 bucks.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:57 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
The Word

Derb: "This way I could keep the orginal unit, get the new software, new display, and hopefully better DAC's with a little extra cash."

Idea 2 gave you:
The New Firmware, New Display, and better DAC boards for 66% off of direct upgrade of your unit. $1500 worth of upgrade for ~$500. That seemed a pretty good deal.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.131 ) at 11:18 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Cytotech: What's up Cyto? how goes the HT?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.131 ) at 11:17 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Cytotech:
I just had to wake my SOUNDLY sleeping 6 month old up to feed him supper. Now I ask you, does that make ANY sense?
Other than doing it so my wife won't have to be up all night breastfeeding, that is...
What is wrong with this statement?
Cytotech ( 12.74.67.59 ) at 10:41 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Mirrorball

Tony C: Just got around to watching my Trivia dvd! It was great! I got to hear a bunch of Sarah songs that I wasn't familiar with. Thanks bud!
Cytotech ( 12.74.67.59 ) at 10:39 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Ok... can you tell I'm bored?
I just had to wake my SOUNDLY sleeping 6 month old up to feed him supper. Now I ask you, does that make ANY sense?
Other than doing it so my wife won't have to be up all night breastfeeding, that is...
Cytotech ( 12.74.67.59 ) at 10:38 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Always lurking, hiding in wait for the unsuspecting....
hehehehe!
Cytotech ( 12.74.67.59 ) at 10:37 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

CuRTis: You wouldn't have to WRITE one... We could just compile your posts from the HTOC archives! LOL!!!
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.134 ) at 10:23 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

Chris L.: We're looking at a 6 figure advance here, right
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 10:03 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

CuRTis: >I could write a book on the subject.<
Would you??
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.134 ) at 9:58 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

Kieran: Yes it can be stress city doing the dating thing, but it doesn't have to be that way. If you're thinking about her constantly there must be a reason (besides THAT one). Forget the rules and give her a call - what's the worst that could happen? Keep busy in the meantime because women are known to drive men crazy. I could write a book on the subject.
trav1 ( 209.245.175.45 ) at 9:54 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

derb: Email your way.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:55 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Or I suppose you could just buy a hooker. LOL!!
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:54 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

Kieran: Have you ever seen the movie "Swingers"? They have a whole system for when to call a female after a date. I think the minimum was 3 days. Funny thing is, is that the only guy to get the girl was about to call the next day when she called him.
Good luck!
Joe ( 152.163.197.64 ) at 8:47 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Just back from our first baby class, we skipped out early.
Joe ( 152.163.197.64 ) at 8:46 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

Kieran: Buy a hooker....Just joking
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 8:36 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Outlaw Audio contest

Chris L.: LOL! I like it!
Wild Bill ( 12.91.133.234 ) at 8:32 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

Kieran: Been there...stay tough. Thanks for the advice about my back. You are 100% correct. This heel thing really sucks. It is very painful.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:30 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Outlaw Audio contest

Kieran: Hehe...I have it alllll figured out. Check out my entry.
trav1 ( 209.245.175.45 ) at 8:19 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Parasound AV-2500 Pre/Amp/Pro

Gar: This unit has been taken as far as it can go according to their own customer support. The updates that were made to it were the bass management stuff, and the 5.1 volume control for use with the sacd/dvd-a. They have a new top of the line unit coming out in the fall, but they will still sell the avc-2500u until then, possibly after as well. Also, right now if you buy a avc-2500u, they will give you free their 6.1 add on box. Sort of their solution for the EX/ES stuff.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 8:15 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Girls, girls, girls... WAY OT, but what the heck it's slow...

Ugh... I forgot how stressful dating can be. Went on a 1st date with a beautiful woman Sunday afternoon. 5 mile hike together, then lunch, great conversation all the way (at least I thought so.) We actually went out the night before, too, but it was less of a date, because it was w/ 6 other people to dinner and then a club in San Francisco. Anyway, I said I'd call her, and she was cool with that, but said that an old friend from Philly (unfortunately named "JOE" and it was not short for Josephine) was in town this week, and that she'd probably not have any time 'till next week. That's fine because my best friend who lives in Seattle is back in town for the week. So all's fine.... except I'm sitting here at work thinking about nothing but her, and getting very little done. >shigh< So, all the "guy rules" say to be aloof and not call too soon... do I stay tough or break the rules and give her a call anyway, even though she said she'd not be available 'till next week? I think I need to stay tough, and just get busy doin' something else!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:26 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Outlaw Audio contest

Check it out...
http://www.outlawaudio.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000001.html
What do YOU think ICBM is going to stand for?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 7:06 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Bay area HDTV

CuRTis: Note that the source content is not necessarily 720p, just the broadcast content... e.g. Fox doesn't do ANYTHING at more than 16:9 480p. However apparently OUR local Fox station KTVU ch.2, invested in 720p material first, so they have to convert all the 16:9 480p source material to 720p for broadcasting. Same applies to the other stations, I guess. What it shows me, is that somebody at these stations that "prematurely" invested in 720p over 1080i, has a good head on their shoulders, since 720p IS the better format! (IMHO) Now if the networks would just create source content in 720p!
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.134 ) at 6:49 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Bay area HDTV

Kieran: That's news to me as I thought everyone except KGO was sending out 1080i. The only STB that will send out native HD content is the new Panny (hardly a Curtis deal) and it has a severely slow program guide/ channel change problem & noisey fan issue.

I'll see if I can get one to demo for a few days. I'm getting very used to the Shampo's picture. It lacks the dramatic size yet what it does show is very high quality.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 5:52 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Wild Bill: Also watch out for your back. People recovering from knee/foot/leg injuries that require them to modify the way they stand and/or walk often develop a secondary injury in the form of back strain, due to the shifted posture and/or gait. A Dr.'s advice would be best, but I'd suggest at a minimum stretching and mobilizing the back a lot, if you can.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.50 ) at 5:49 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

JBC: My achilles is coming along slowly but surely. It truly will take 8-9 months after surgery for it to be back to normal. My problem now is that by compensating for the achilles with my walking style I have developed a very badly bruised heel. My heel is much more painful than my achilles right now. I leave on Saturday for 3 days in Miami and then a 5 day Caribbean cruise. I am hoping that I'll get off my feet enough for my heel to heal. Thanks for asking. I'm glad your knee is coming along well.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:48 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Parasound AV-2500 Pre/Amp/Pro

Gar: I have both seen and heard it. Actually, the latest incarnation is the 2500u, where u = upgrade! What would you like to know?
Robert ( 63.11.58.35 ) at 4:18 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Hmmmm Interesting...

Gar: If memory serves, this is the electronics arm of the same company that brings us Paradigm.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:06 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Bay area HDTV

CuRTis: Don't know if you saw this thread, but you might want to consider getting an STB that can output 720p to your Sampo &/or Ampro...
"Apple" wrote:
Your request for 33kHz mode is really a request for 720p mode vs 1080i mode. It turns out a majority of the bay area DTV is 720p. KTVU (2),KBWB (20), KGO (7), KRON(4) broadcast in 720p. KQED(9) and KPIX (5) broadcast in 1080i. All these station are on Sutro tower which is in the center of San Francisco. You can use www.antennaweb.org to see how your address picks up DTV stations. All the DTV from Sutro is on the UHF band so you only need a UHF antenna which can be considerably smaller than a UHF/VHF antenna.
Then I wrote back:
Where do you get your info that all those channels are broadcasting in 720p? What 720p material are they broadcasting? Fox has already stated that their DTV standard is 480p widescreen. WB has no high def content to offer whatsoever, save possibly for a widescreen version of some of their shows, similar to what Fox is doing. KRON is NBC, which ONLY has Leno, and that's in 1080i for sure. KGO is ABC, which only shows the occasional movie in HD. Sometimes this is indeed 720p, but that's the ONLY source I know of that's 720p.
If a station is upconverting to 720p, that's different. GIGO, my friend... Garbage In, Garbage Out. 480i upsampled to 720p won't look much better than 480i linedoubled to 480p. There's still only 480 lines of info on the vertical axis there. Just because someone is converting 480i crap to 720p doesn't mean anything, and it's misleading to claim "the majority of bay area DTV is 720p."
To which "apple" responded:
Expanding on my previous comments:
KTVU (2): They are always broadcasting in 720p. They are upconverting 480i, and on special shows like Titus and Ally McBeal thet get a widescreen digital 480p feed from Fox which they upconvert .
KRON (4): They are always broadcasting in 720p on the .1 subchannel. Normally they upconvert 480i but for the Tonight show they convert 1080i to 720p. On the .2 subchannel they are sending BayTV in 480i.

KPIX (5): They are always sending 1080i with Dolby 2 sound. Normally they are upconverting 480i but at primetime they are sending 1080i and Dolby 2 from CBS.

KGO (7): They are always sending 720p on the .1 subchannel. They normally are upconverting 480i and Dolby 3 sound. They send the Big Picture and other HDTV content in 720p and Dolby 5.1 sound. The .2 subchannel is 480i with Dolby 2.

KQED (9): They are a wild card. Most of the time they are sending a single 480i channel. However they send HDTV from PBS in 1080i using Dolby 2 or 5.1. They also multicast 480i from PBS using several subchannels sometimes. When they are passing through PBS the PSIP can change to channel 80 which is the PBS psuedo channel.

KBWB (20): They are always sending 720p with Dolby 5.1. They are upconverting 480i.

KICU (36): They are always sending 480i.

KBHK (45): They are always sending 480i.

Some of this information came from contacting the station engineers.

Things have really improved in the last few months. KBWB and KPIX were unwatchable with constant pixel breakups. Now they are great.

It seems none of the stations are sending the PSIP guide information so far.
So, it looks like there's a lot of stuff at a 720p scan rate, even if it's not native 720p source. However, since both your sets can display 720p, why bother processing/converting the image AGAIN?
Gar ( 169.207.194.195 ) at 3:45 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Check out the comparison chart on that piece, looks and may sound promising.
Gar ( 169.207.194.195 ) at 3:44 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Hmmmm Interesting...

Check this site out....... http://www.sonicfrontiers.com/anthem/avm2fr.html
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 3:43 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Ron's computer prob

Ron, I am working out of the house today, but I will be back in the office. If you email me a dscription of the problem and your setup I will ask around and get you fixed up.
Gar ( 169.207.194.195 ) at 3:32 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Parasound AV-2500 Pre/Amp/Pro

Anyone seen or heard this unit yet? Nice looking piece and offers a ton of inputs and outputs along with Component switching.... Also multi-room capable and a ton of S-video inputs.. Haven't seen too much of this unit and ironically it is made in Findland...
Gar ( 169.207.194.195 ) at 3:28 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Computers

Ron H:What is the problem?
Gar ( 169.207.194.109 ) at 2:46 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
DVD Benchmark - Special Report - The Chroma Upsampling Error in DVD Players - April, 2001

mic:Good info. I have two of the DVD players that doesn't have the choma problem, the RV-80 Panasonic and the S-7000.
RB ( 205.188.192.24 ) at 2:45 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Car Stereos

BC: Thanks, BC!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:42 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Car Stereos

RB: You can't go wrong with www.crutchfield.com. Prices aren't the best but the return policy is good. Also check www.carreview.com for info on car stereo stuff. There is a good forum but I can't remember the url at the moment. I think it was something like ultimate car audio or something.
Gar ( 169.207.194.109 ) at 2:25 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
ML Owners

Wild Bill: Bill I have own(tried) just about every Dynaudio Speaker including the Confidence 3s. I had the Contour 3.3s for over 2 years and just recently sold them because they where collecting Dust upstairs. Living
room is semi-play room for the little guy now. I currently own the LR120 x
5 Dynaudio system and love it!!!!
RB ( 205.188.192.24 ) at 2:10 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Car Stereos

Does anyone know a good place on the internet to get car stereo equipment?
Derb ( 208.134.148.179 ) at 1:56 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
The Word

Darian: Those are both good ideas and I appreciate the offer to help me out. I don't think I want to spend that much money on the EAD
up-grade. I am still hard pressed to do the $480.00 straight up-grade. I thought the best idea was to recycle some of the returned boards at EAD. Do you have any pull at EAD, maybe you could talk them into recycling acouple of the better DACs. This way I could keep the orginal unit, get the new software, new display, and hopefully better DAC's with a little extra cash.
Derb ( 208.134.148.179 ) at 1:42 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Derb's E-Mail

trav1: w.k.d.@ix.netcom.com
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 1:38 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Ron H: There is always the Prodigy's!!
Ron H ( 64.240.35.253 ) at 1:38 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

I still need help resolving the computer problem. It will not post with either IE or Netscape. It has to be some sort of setting problem.
Ron H ( 64.240.35.253 ) at 1:37 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

I still need help resoling the computer problem. It will not post with either IE or Netscape. It has to be some sort of settimg problem. assisas
Ron H ( 64.240.35.253 ) at 1:36 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
So Sad

I just found out all the Requests have been sold. They sold them for $2440 a pair. That is almost 50% off list!!!!! F#$%, S%$*, Piss.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 12:57 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

AVB: You have e-mail.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 12:47 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Joe: Montreal was sold a while back, although there appears to be some problems in completing the transaction.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 12:42 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
DVD Benchmark - Special Report - The Chroma Upsampling Error in DVD Players - April, 2001

mic: Everything you never needed to know about DVD mpeg decoding!

Hmmm... at least the erroneous Sony players use the LSI chip, which can possibly be fixed via a firmware upgrade/fix:
In some cases, the flaw is not in the MPEG decoder, but in the firmware driving the decoder. We know of at least one chip company (LSI) that does include the proper interpolation algorithms on the chip, but relies on the firmware to detect the progressive_frame flag and choose the proper upsampling algorithm. In such cases, it's possible that the DVD player manufacturer could release updated firmware that would address this issue. There may be other decoders with similar features that are not being properly used, though most of the chipsets we've looked at don't offer these kinds of controls in firmware. Generally, either the chip works right or it doesn't.
So, if you own a Sony DVD player (other than the DVPS-7000 which is fine as it is), it would be worth it to send in an email to customer service and point this out.
Joe ( 205.188.195.52 ) at 12:04 PM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

JBC: Isn't Monteral up for sale? It seems I read that somewhere. Maybe some of those Monteral guys still lurk around here.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 11:53 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Joe: I am so bumbed out on the hockey. The Leafs have not won in 34 years. My beloved Monreal Canadiens, once the most feared team in hockey, are the worst team in the league. It is tough being a hockey fans these days. Oh well, more tine for HT.

As an aside, I have tickets (or at least access) to the Leafs playoff games. They are $500 a piece. I think I will buy and scalp them. Toronto is a hockey town... last year I got $1,200 a piece. It is easy $$$.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 11:50 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

BC: The knee is getting better. The physio is a killer -- both pain wise and time wise. I still have three months to go until I am back at 90%. That said, I hope to puch the physio hard once the swelling goes down as it is tough to rebuild muscle while swollen. Thanks for asking!

WildBill: How is your achilles tendon doing?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:47 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

It has been quiet here. I changed my hours at work and now work 6am-3pm. Played golf last thursay. Sure is nice to play 9 holes and be home by 6.
The weather here has been beautiful. Gonna try and play 9 holes every other week.
JBC - how's the knee doin?
Joe ( 205.188.195.24 ) at 11:46 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001


Joe ( 205.188.195.24 ) at 11:46 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
JBC

When the Wings win the Cup at least it is close to Canada, and with the open border you guys could come see it again :d:d
Joe ( 205.188.195.24 ) at 11:44 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
JBC

Yes it has been slow around here. We might as well talk about HOCKEY. You guys ready to see the RED WINGS win the cup again this year?

How about the new song from Warren Zevon, " Hit someone" ( or Somebody?) I read that the NHL was not to impressed with it. I seen him on Letterman so the song, kinda of funny with some tructh in it. A future classic from Warren.
Joe ( 205.188.195.24 ) at 11:40 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

So AVB, what kind of mini theater are you putting in the new Garage? You will need something to work on the mower and watch the games on.
Joe ( 205.188.195.24 ) at 11:38 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

So tonight I start my Baby classes. It got me to thinking the Ultrasound Techs and the Doctors are predicting a June 15th birth. No way I predict the day I finally finish the HT room and pop in the first DVD to " Crank it up"

Yup that will be the time my wife goes into labor
Joe ( 205.188.195.24 ) at 11:35 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
ML Owners

Wild Bill: I just finished the review on the Contour 1.3 series. The ones that caught my eye where the Contour 2.1. I have not heard them, but they sure look nice.

In my opinion if 2 speakers have the same quality sound, the nice floor standing wood finished ones get the nood. Maybe someday I would consider hiding speakers, but at this time I look at them as part of the room decor.

Of course in my present employment state I don't see the room decor changing anytime soon.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.134 ) at 11:15 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

JBC: My guess is that everyone has been out playing golf.

Ron H: Good job repositioning your speakers. For a minute there I thought you were doing your (nearly) annual speaker housecleaning!
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 8:40 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Good morning everyone. Sure has been quiet here the last couple of days.

Ron H: Congrats. I am thrilled for you that your speaker dilem is resolved.

AVB: Good luck on round 2. An 11 commute is far preferable to a 55 mile commute. Also, I called Adrian yesterday and hope to send you an e-mail later today.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 8:25 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
DVD Benchmark - Special Report - The Chroma Upsampling Error in DVD Players - April, 2001

FYI:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_2/dvd-benchmark-special-report-chroma-bug-4-2001.html
Wild Bill ( 12.78.120.165 ) at 7:33 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
ML Owners

Gar: I've demoed the Audience 40 (one HELL of a little bookshelf speaker), The Contour 1.3 and the Contour 3.3. I like them all, a lot.
Joe ( 64.12.104.58 ) at 7:31 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Morning all,
Ron H ( 63.26.164.89 ) at 7:15 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
Help

When I received my new Compaq at the office it all seemed fine but I find I have a problem. When I try to post to this forum itmacts like it is going to post but all it does is go back to the screen I had typed my post on. I am sure there is something that needs to be changed in the settings. Any ideas?
Ron H ( 63.26.164.89 ) at 6:35 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
PROJECTION SCREENS

Darian: Mail on the way.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:10 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001

Derb: Whats the word?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:17 AM EST Tuesday, April 10, 2001
PROJECTION SCREENS

Ron H: Tell me more RON!
Gar ( 169.207.193.131 ) at 11:45 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

"there"= They...... Doh!!!!
Gar ( 169.207.193.131 ) at 11:44 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
ML Owners

Ron H:Ron, I used to have the MLs the SL3s and a pair of Requests for about year, and I too had placement problems. So I went back to conventional box speakers for HT and never looked back. The MLs I loved on 2 channel, but I had problems getting my ML system to do justice to both HT and Music. I bought the LR120 X 5 from Dynaudio and love them, infact there got great reviews in every magazine and this was long after I bought them. Also there are many other lines like there Dynaudio Contour line that is fantastic, and lets not forget the Joesph Audio speakers. Also I think Wild Bill will agree with my on the Dynaudio, because he just recently demoed a pair..
AVB ( 64.41.32.148 ) at 10:22 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
Interview

Joe: Going back next week for round 2. Thanks for asking.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:01 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
Saw Bela Fleck last night

Kieran: I've been into Bela' since '89.
He used to have a Chicago harmonica player in the group by the name of Howard Levy. Another vertuoso who can play chromatic harp on a marine band. Future Man's "instrument" has gone through some changes over the years. He should have pattened it, because I've seen some used in other bands that don't look home-made.

Check out his first album on WB and a track called "Sinister Minister".
I think it's on the greatest hits too. BTW, you should check out Victor Wooton's solo album. WAY cool.
Joe ( 205.188.198.167 ) at 8:58 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
AVB

How did the interview go?
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.72 ) at 8:42 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
PROJECTION SCREENS

Darian: I can get you a price on Wednesday.
trav1 ( 209.245.170.205 ) at 7:47 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
Derb

Derb: Tried to send an email your way but came back rejected. What is your email addy again?
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 7:06 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

Ron H: INCOMING!!!!!!
Ron H ( 63.26.164.85 ) at 7:02 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
ML Owners

I have loved the sound of the MLs but have battled with the placement and limited sweet spot. I could get a area maybe one seat on each side of the center spot and you had better be close friends to enjoy it.

I also found that if one sat outside of the sweet spot all you would hear is the sound coming from the closest speaker. None of my non HT fanatic friends notice this but has sort of drove me crazy. I also thought they sounded on the bright side since I moved them into my HT room.

I have toed the speakers, I have tried them facing straight ahead. I have been to the point of considering new speakers for HT use but know I will miss the detail they offer. I also have thought about picking up a larger set of MLs the Request thinking that a larger/wider speaker will give me a larger sweet spot.

Well with some time spent this weekend, trying even the most extreme set/speaker positioning, I solved the problem. I toed the speakers in to the point that they actually crossed just in front of my prime sitting position. It did not seem to have a effect on the soundstage which was my first concern.

What it did accomplish was two things the brightness disapeared (I am not sure why) and you could sit at extreme ends of the couch without the soundfield collapsing into the closest speaker.

There is "Joy in Houston".
Ron H ( 63.26.164.85 ) at 6:27 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
PROJECTION SCREENS

Darian: If you want a 100" 4:3 at a very good price I have one sitting around. Black velvet borders and the back is lined incase it needs to be in front of windows.
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 5:44 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

Darian He still has screen for sale, but I think the Frame is around $600 also.
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 3:51 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
Help...

If anyone sees a great deal on a Pioneer 704/Elite 97/99 or a 79 please let
me know. Thanks
Gar ( 169.207.193.123 ) at 3:50 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
Darian

E-mail is on it's way....
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:58 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
PROJECTION SCREENS

Gar: Pictures? More info... contact.
My email is cnichol@rcn.com ask him to contact me.
Gar ( 169.207.194.104 ) at 2:33 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
PROJECTION SCREENS

Darian: Darian there is a guy I know selling a Greyhawk for $600 bucks but has no frame. Great buy for a 100" screen. It is 88" by 50" and the frame will cost you another 350.00 or more, and it is a 16:9 screen. I was going to buy it but I am looking for a 92".
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:17 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
PROJECTION SCREENS

Screens... Ok guys I need to figure out what sort of screen to get for the projector. It seems everyone loves the GreyHawk. I don't have a clue what a screen is going to cost. I would like to get 80" in width.

4:3 100" daigonal screen. 80" wide by 60" tall. I know I would rarely use the full 4:3 of the screen. Most of my watching would be anamorpic DVD and 16:9 HD or HDish signals.

16:9 92" would be 80" by 45"

It doesn't seem bright to pay for 8.3 square feet of screen that will never be used. Taking this into account I am leaning towards a 16:9 screen.

How much is that going to set me back?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 1:51 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
Saw Bela Fleck last night

Kieran: I believe Bela Fleck and the Flecktones will be playing at the Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion in The Woodlands later this spring...
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 1:28 PM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
Saw Bela Fleck last night

The Bela Fleck concert was totally, 100%, absolutely AWESOME. I was SOOO into that concert! In case you don't know, (as I had never heard of them until last night) Bela Fleck is apparently the most famous banjo player in the world right now. The music was mostly a sort of contemporary funky Jazz, with a touch of bluegrass (due to the banjo basically). Other than Bela on the banjo, they also had a guy named Victor Wooten on electric bass. Apparently, this guy is as famous on the bass as Bela is on the banjo, and I can see why. He's been "bassist of the year" several times in Bass Player Magazine. The guy just totally kicks ass. He did a 20 minute solo that was worth the price of admission on its own. Mind blowing talent, really... the more he got into his solo, the more my jaw dropped to the floor! They also had a sax player who was none too shabby either (Jeff Coffin), and a percussionist ("the Future Man") who was... something else (to put it simply). I hesitate to call him a drummer, even though without a doubt that's what he is, because he uses a "drumitar" which is an electric drum machine in the shape of a guitar. He also used some traditional drums too, which made for a very unique rhythmic part of the music. Oh, and he's the bassist's brother. Anyway, I could go on and on but I'll stop. Suffice to say, if you get a chance to see them, do, and invite me!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 11:47 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
RickMTB

Gar: I wsih it was only a fade... its pretty nasty, and I tend to play an "educated slice" (stand to the right of the tee box, aim left) which I know only aggravates the thing but at least I tend to keep the balls playable.
Gar ( 169.207.194.104 ) at 10:39 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
RickMTB

RickMTB: Sounds like you have more of a fade then a slice which is good. If you have a wicked Slice you will loose balls... Used to play on my
high school team when I was young and it has been awhile for me and new equipement. In most cases it is the consistancy of a good swing that makes your game improve, good equipment will just enhance it. I have a meeting with some doctors at a Golf dome tomorrow, this place is a indoor driving range so it should be interesting. Going to get a few drivers from the local pro shop and try them out, so far the Callaway ERC II is a wicked rocket launcher, but if you don't hit it right it enhances your faults(My slice), which I don't need
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 9:19 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
RickMTB

Wild Bill: Thanks for the advice. I know I need to cure the slice since I am not long to begin with and I know I lose even more distance as it slices to the right. And I didn't want to go to an offset club since I want to cure the slice, not compensate for it. Oddly enough, the most serious of the players in my foursome said I had my hands too far in front of the ball at contact, which I thought was the whole idea of offset clubs? Anyway, I am trying to keep my right elbow in which I thought would promote an inside out swing through the ball. No improvement there. I am wondering if changing my grip might help? Ultimately I know I need to bite the bullet and take lessons to get my swing on the right path...
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 9:15 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
RickMTB

Gar: Unfortunately, I *was* using the new TopFlite XL2000 but I was using the red box version which may be the extra distance ones, not the spin control ones. And on that course, the trees were pretty thick, and I never made it through to the next fairway over. I rarely loose balls, and I lost four balls there (two in water, two in the trees and bushes so thick I just gave up on finding them).
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 8:54 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

Gasgeek: Thanks
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 8:52 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

Gasgeek: re AVD 2000, Have your friend contact me. jj@alexanderj.net
Wild Bill ( 205.188.200.139 ) at 7:37 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

AVB: Knock em dead, AVB!!
Wild Bill ( 205.188.200.139 ) at 7:36 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
RickMTB

RickMTB: A slice almost always means you are coming into the ball from outside the correct swing plane. To correct a slice you need to learn to attack the ball from the inside. It may sound strange but if you learn to swing out AT the ball you will begin to cure your slice. It will feel at first as if you are swinging the club at where your slice currently ends up. I had a slice years ago but I now play a draw/sometimes hook. I'll take the hook any day over the slice. It adds distance and makes those doglegs to the left much easier. I can work the ball with a fade sometimes but my fade is not as reliable. So, learn to attack the ball from the inside and not outside in and you'll be on the way to curing your slice. Good luck.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 6:47 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

AVB: Good morning and GOOD LUCK!!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:47 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

AVB: Good luck with the interviews. A new job is often good as we all need a change of scenery evry now and then!
AVB ( 64.41.32.20 ) at 6:27 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

Morning all. More interviews today...wish me luck! Started to build a new garage/shed yesterday. Tore down the old one that was waiting to fall over, digging out the foundation and hope to have the concrete poured next week. Not as much fun as building an HT room but it will give me more room in the house for HT stuff!
Gar ( 169.207.194.161 ) at 1:43 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001
RickMTB

RickMTB: Same old slice and more distance only means your going to be playing the wrong fairway :). I have a slice/fade, but it is my swing that need correcting. All in good time, also try the new TopFlite XL2000 there supposed to help reduce the slice on how the ball spins in flight. Also, need to put some HT in this post, anyone seen or heard the new HK Progressive scan unit? DVD-50
Cytotech ( 165.121.234.110 ) at 1:30 AM EST Monday, April 9, 2001

Yeah...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.27 ) at 11:48 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Talk about slow.... this ain't molasses in january, guys! what, are you all vegging in front of your HTs?
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.144 ) at 7:38 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
Waling With Dinosaur fans

Don't forget that Allusaurus is on tonight on the Discovery Channel. A new hour long episode at 9PM EST.
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.40 ) at 6:43 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
RickMTB

Rich F: Thanks! I played in a church tournament (luckily best ball). Turns out the other three players decide that they would like to play my new driver too (though the most experienced of the foursome said something to the effect that it was a "Two" wood with that 12 degree loft. Anyway, they all hit it a ton. Me, same ol' slice (but with more distance at least). Odd... we end up playing my drive and second shots on the first hole. And played a few more of my shorts throughout the 18. The only thing I was doing well was putting... knocked three in for birdies, including a 20 footer that had a decent break over a rise. Rammed a nice ten footer in for a bird on the final hole. We ended up 3 under (one hole we had to play a horrible shot out of a creek bed (amazingly, it was our best shot on that hole). Scary that in a best ball with a good player on your team we bogeyed holes... tight course, lots of trees (Texas National)
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:48 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
ready to crash

CuRTis: thanks for the reminder. I still have salmon in my neigbors deep freeze. Now that the weather is getting nicer, time to fire up the grill.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.3 ) at 3:07 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
HT Party!

Tony C: sounds like a great night. Fantastic gift the scotch was. +12 Yikes!!!!
Ron H ( 63.26.171.3 ) at 3:00 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
Requests

Derb: Thanks for the info. I should have recieved a card.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.114 ) at 2:12 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
ready to crash

Tony C: My son really wanted to go salmom fishing this morning waaay out in the ocean on Cap'n John's fishing tours. So I make the reservations 2 days ago. They take my phone # as there's limited space. Have to be at the dock at 5:30AM.

Alarm goes off at 4:30, no time for coffee (big mistake when driving over the mountain), fins out that the directions on their website are wrong - yet still manage to get there on time.

"We ain't going out today, swells and wind yesterday even made the skipper seasick" We were told. Back over the mountain & to bed for us.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:40 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Hung over or not, I have to get on the roof and secure my ground wire from the Sat dish that blew free from the big storms we had a couple of nights ago.
I'm not in the best shape to be walking on the roof.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:37 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
HT Party!

It was such a beautiful day yesterday. And when spring comes, people come out of their houses and acutally speak to one another.
The guy across the street comes over and asks If I'm going to watch the Springsteen concert. I said I was, but I wouldn't get home till 8:30 thus missing the first half hour. He starts to moan about the only friend of his who has HBO is in an apartment and that they couldn't turn it up and yada, yada, yada. So, perhaps I played right into his hands, but I offered my HT to them. They could come in while I was gone and I would join them later. He was thrilled. I took him downstairs, and walked him through the Macros on the Pronto and showed him how to tune in HBO.

Ron, I suspected as well that the Music mode would be better and showed him how to switch to that mode. But he didn't.
Curtis, I didn't know it was going to be in 5.1 on the HD channel! I would have tuned it in.

Anyway, I get home and can hear the music as soon as I walk in the door. I go in the basement to find a total of 4 people invited by my friend and a great party going on. I switched the mode to Music and saw that they had the volume set at +12. Now, I know that I set 00 at reference of 75db. So you guys can imagine how loud it was. And you know what? It sound pretty damn good too! I was really proud of the system. All of them were blown away. Good thing I had a few beers while at dinner, it wasn't that hard for me to catch up. Especially since the guy brought me a bottle of Glenlivet as a thank-you.
After the concert, we did HT demos that really impressed them all. Then just lots of drink and talk till 2A.
And this morning? I'm really hung over. And I was in better shape than the rest of them. But I'm also much older.

Sorry for the long post. But I could only tell that story to you guys. No one else would understand how it felt.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:03 PM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Derb: Idea is in the email!
Rich F ( 172.156.64.8 ) at 11:54 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
RickMTB

Hey Rick, Congrats on the new club. I also have that set, the Taylormade Bubble Burners but as a new golfer, I really don't do them justice. Maybe we can get out one of these days when you really want to feel good about your game.
Rich F ( 172.156.64.8 ) at 11:52 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
JBC

I did get the email. I will probably download at when I get on my T1 at the office. I am traveling and am in PA now for my first visit home in 2 months. Thanks for sending the info and I look forward to reading the instructions.
Rich F ( 172.156.64.8 ) at 11:51 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
Ron H

You got mail
Derb ( 199.174.4.31 ) at 11:33 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001
Requests

Ron H: With Requests at the front and SL'3s at the back with two pair of Stylos for the sides, man oh man, that would be the sh%t. I don't know if your home theater can take that pressure. You may have to get some cement forms and make some buttresses on the outside to keep the walls from exploding out.
On a side note, did you get some sort of buyers program from Tweeters. If you have spent $4000 in the last two years they send you a card for 5% off of everything. Says it is for sale items, close outs, price breaks etc... Not that big off deal but I'll take the 5%, got a $25.00 gift certificate also; does not say I have to purchase anything. Free delivery on big screen TV's. Might let them know, if the Requests you are talking about are @ Tweeters and you didn't get your card.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.89 ) at 10:52 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

JBC: Just thinking out loud. If I can get a price that is very very good on the Request ...

I did come up with a solution to increase the small sweet zone.

Even if I change my mind I can keep the Requests and move them into the family room for music.
Joe ( 152.163.195.206 ) at 10:45 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Morning all,
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 10:33 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Darian: Believe it or not, yes. LOL Actually, I tend not to watch movies after 8pm because it wakes the neighbor's child. Of course, it's only because I watch them LOUD!!!

Not mention I have to work occassionally.

Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 7:44 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Morning all!
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 7:44 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Ron H: I just might be interested in those M$Ks. Keep me posted.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:07 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Good morning all

Ron H: Do I detect a change of heart in that you are now considering augmenting your ML collection as opposed to departing with it and moving to Mirage/M&K/etc.? Why the change?
Ron H ( 216.119.162.54 ) at 1:55 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Derb: If I get the Requests I may just run 5.1 channels for awhile untill I come across a set of Stylos.

If anyone is interested I may have a set of M$K Tripoles for sale shortly.
Ron H ( 216.119.162.54 ) at 1:52 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Derb:I may see if they will take between $3000 to $3200 for those Requests. I really would like to find a set of Stylos for the sides. Requests for R/Ls, Logo's for center, Stylos for sides and SL3's for rear. That should make for one nice ML setup. Of course with all those monoliths and the three huge subs I have I may have to take the couch out of the room.

Hmmm if I get the Requests which should be able to run full range I could sell one or two of the subs. But can one have too much clean bass?r
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:25 AM EST Sunday, April 8, 2001

Sonic: You can tear yourself away from your new rig?
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 11:31 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Sonicbit

Joe: It's no big deal. I'm just try to rattle their chains.
Gar ( 169.207.192.234 ) at 11:16 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Here is a very interesting site a guy is running, he has old audio/video equipment, and some new that has never been opened.

http://www.componentaudio.com
Gar ( 169.207.192.234 ) at 10:45 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Luxman D-408 LD Player?

Has anyone ever see this unit? It seems to me it would be a modified Pioneer unit with a Luxman Name. Guy I know is selling two of them cheap, but don't want to buy unless I can find some info. Unit ran new for around $2000.00

THanks for any help.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 10:30 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Donation for the Bandwidth Upgrade

SonicBit: My check went out yesterday. Should be there shortly.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.224 ) at 10:09 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

... it's also in 5.1 DD, so I'm sure a DVD is in the works.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.224 ) at 10:08 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Joe: Not to ramble on about HD programming - BUT - the Springsteen HBO concert now on HBO East is being shown in HD. Looks good too.

I hear that 10 cents per law cleaned up the entire state almost overnight!
Joe ( 205.188.195.36 ) at 9:26 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Sonicbit

Well how much are you short on the $120? I am sure none of us expect you to support OUR forum. I could send a few more dollars if needed.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.107 ) at 9:25 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Tony C: Music mode.
Joe ( 205.188.195.29 ) at 9:20 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Evening all,

Tony, I read somewhere that the Bruce concert was going to be a DVD later this year, you know?

Well I hung blinds and pictures tonight. I went to church and got my Palms for the house. I took my in laws, like a good son-in-law. I am ready for a beer.

I also took back all the returnables in my garage. Michingan has a $.10 deposit on carbonated bevarages. I got $68.60...thats alot of returnables. I spent over a hour putting them in the counting machines.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.140 ) at 9:07 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

TonyC; Thanks for the link!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.56 ) at 6:18 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
OK, you asked for it

CuRTis: e-mail on its way
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:53 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

BIG AL: www.dvdprofiler.com

easy enough?

Anyone watching Bruce tonight?
I'm wondering if it would be better in Logic 7 or in a Music mode.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.51 ) at 5:28 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Anyone have the link for the DVD Profiler program? Is there one for Mac. ?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.51 ) at 5:26 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Curtis; e-mail headed your way!
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.224 ) at 5:23 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
OK, you asked for it

Scott "popcorn": It'll ship this week. Pls resend your snail mail address.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.224 ) at 5:22 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Well this place is certainly jumpin'!
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 3:54 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Donation for the Bandwidth Upgrade

If you said you were going to send something, please do. I've responded by email to all those whose donations have reached my happy mailbox.

I can't support a HT habit, a computer habit, a cigar hobby AND you guys!!!

CuRTis ( 64.161.26.224 ) at 2:42 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

JBC: I'm on hold till I get the FP mounted and calibrated. A couple of weeks out still with a crazy schedule.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:20 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

CuRTis: Where are you in the selection of a scaler?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.224 ) at 12:08 PM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
telecom nightmare

The other day I called the local police department to discuss something. It seems that they do not allow blocked #'s to enter their non-emergency line. So I entered whatever code I remembered to show my number to a receiving party and made the call properly.

Yesterday my brother and sister call my cell # to say that every time they called my home office # it was answered "Los Altos Police Department." It seems that the code I entered was for call forwarding! I can only imagine how many clients/ customers must have gotten the same treatment.

I undid it and all works properly now. Ain't telecom grand?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.224 ) at 11:59 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
and I'm not even a golf fan

The CBS HD coverage of The Masters is very hard to tear yourself away from. Thursday was overcast so it wasn't quite as intense as yesterday under the sun. Detail is amazing. You can make out individual blades of grass on the putting greens. At one point you could clearly see an ant crawling on a ball - up and down the dimples. Colors, depth of field are superb. Even plaid fabric comes through with zero moire patterns.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 10:54 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Sonic's Toys

Rich/Chris L.: Thank you! I'm already enjoying a new level of HT. I think I'll be rewatching quite a few of my movies. Some of these soundfields are pretty cool, especially the Virtual Multirear ones.

JBC: Yes, I have heard of the upgrade program, but in no hurry to do so. Actually, I've other things in line to upgrade/buy. It's never ending! LOL

Joe ( 152.163.197.61 ) at 10:16 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Well 8 months and 1 week after we started we sleep in our new room lastnight. With 2 skylights, 6' French doors and a 4.5' window for natural light.

Then came the thunder and lighting, today we are going to hand some blinds and/ot curtains. It was like beiing inside a Star Wars light show.
Joe ( 152.163.197.61 ) at 10:05 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Ron

Yes, sorry for not answering. I was hoping for a 200wpc so I will pass, but thank you for the mail.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:58 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Sonic's Toys

Cytotech, ChrisL: To Eschew Obfiscation... I work for a dealer and when we had a 3k6I in I worked it out so Sonic could get it. When we get stuff back on trade I will offer it up to you guys first.
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.58 ) at 9:22 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

BTW... I have no connection with them, nor do I even own any of their gear(although my brother-in-law bought the 1050 receiver and loves it). I just thought someone might be interested.
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.58 ) at 9:21 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Outlaw Audio

Has anyone been following the happenings over at Outlaw? I know a couple of you own their products, or know someone who does.
Well, they're expanding into video now. They are soon going to have a Prog. DVD Audio player and a DLP projection system. Exciting stuff if they can bring it to market at a lower price point than so many others! While their receiver has a couple of flaws, they sell solid stuff for great prices for us non-rich HT enthusiasts.
Check it out if you are interested...
http://www.outlawaudio.com/news/newproducts.html#top
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.58 ) at 9:19 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Chris L.: Not sure, but recently he has picked up Darian's Cinepro 3K-somethingorother(I can''t remember the model #!) amp AND a Sony 9000 Pre/Pro. How's THAT for cool!

JBC: I'd have to agree with you!
Chris L. ( 205.188.193.176 ) at 9:09 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Did we get archived? I can't see what everyone's congratulating Sonic for.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:08 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Cytotech: Sounds like the perfect day!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:07 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

AVB: You have e-mail....
Cytotech ( 12.74.65.165 ) at 9:04 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Morning guys! and Happy Saturday!
The wife is out of the house all day, leaving me and my 3 year old.
I think a trip to Home Depot and a movie or 2 are in order.... don't you?
AVB ( 64.41.32.237 ) at 8:54 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

JBC: You have mail.
AVB ( 64.41.32.237 ) at 8:44 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Version #

Ron H: Yes, thank you. I was hoping it was a 1200II or 1500. You'll get your asking price with no problem. Right now I can't use 7.1 because of the Sony but that may change in the future.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:07 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001

Morning all..

AVB: No problem here. Perhaps the commitment would be sufficient. Let's do this thing step-by-step and see what happens. The price may be too good to be true. I will e-mail you on Monday.

Ron H: There is a problem with your e-mail. I sent the LexiPanel to both you and Rich last night. It bounced at both you e-mail addys. Rich, can you confirm you received it. Ron, do you want me to stick a diskette in the mail along with the Mirage speaker review?

SonicBit: You will love the new gear. In a never ending attempt to help you spend your $$$, do you know that Cinepro is offering an upgrade program? You can upgrade from the 3K6 to the 3K6MKIII for US$2,350. That said, I do not know how much of a difference there is between the MKI and MKIII as I have never heard the MKI. Perhaps AVB, Darian or others can help here.
Rich ( 205.188.197.169 ) at 2:01 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Congrads Sonic!!!

SonicBit:, Congrats!!!
Ron H ( 63.26.184.83 ) at 1:59 AM EST Saturday, April 7, 2001
Version #

AVB/Joe: Did you get my e-mail about the amp?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.223 ) at 11:37 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

SonicBit: I have asked! *sigh*
Gar ( 169.207.194.71 ) at 11:33 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Golf pals... (OT)

RickMTB:Cool set of clubs, my choice was the Titlest 975D and the Callaway ERC II. The ERC II makes a high pitched cannon like sound when you hit it..... And boy does it fly...... Also can anyone tell me if they heard of seen the new HK Progressive Scan unit?
AVB ( 64.41.32.130 ) at 11:10 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001

JBC: I'd be interested on the price but I'm waiting for Uncle Sam before I buy anything.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 11:08 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

Scott "popcorn": Ya never know until you ask.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.223 ) at 11:06 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

SonicBit: Good luck gettin anything from CuRTis... Big Al and I are still on the waiting list...
Derb ( 199.174.2.250 ) at 10:50 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
EAD Man

Darian: Did you get my E-mail? What was your thought process in regards to the possible up-grade? It was not at all clear; or I'm just brainless? Send new E-mail with step by step, blow by blow, as they go round the track; starting with a) this happens b) you do that c) I do this d)etc...e)etc...
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 10:38 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

CuRTis: Oops, missed the reference to Gar earlier.

Yeah, I think I'd like that CD. I think you're one of the few who doesn't already have my snaily. LOL Drop me a line at sonic.bit@verizon.net.

CuRTis ( 64.161.24.75 ) at 10:32 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001

... or did you mean where did I get 2.01? From Gar, as I said before.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.75 ) at 10:31 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

SonicBit: There are 2 ways to find your rev level, 1) power the thing on and the scrolling welcome screen will tell you & 2) turn the + - knob all the way to the right. You can acess the new soundfields from the front panel, so the new remote doesn't have to be used.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 10:24 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

CuRTis: Where'd you get that? Is that the version that needs the new remote?

JBC: I'm running a 3K6. Yup, the orignal.

CuRTis ( 64.161.24.75 ) at 10:21 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

SonicBit: V 2.01 is what I'm running.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:18 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001

SonicBit: Congrats on the Sony pre/pro. By the way, which Cinepro are using to drive your system.

Rich, Ron H: E-mail on the way -- read the instructions attached. Ron, I am resending as yesterdays attempts bounced. As I am sending near 2MB of compressed files I need to know whether your ISP imposes size limits.

AVB: I spoke to Adrian. I have asked him to price both 1 unit and 2 units in the event you want to piggy back with me. In case you are interested, he will have pricing on Monday as well as info on any modification (I am not aware of any). Please let me know if you are interested.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 10:15 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Version #

Okay, I have version 1.18A on my system and latest is 1.18C. Guess I might upgrade.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:43 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
CongraTs Sonic!!!

CuRTis: Well, I have FP on the very outskirts of my plans. Figure a FP is easier to move than a RP.

I don't know what version I have now. How do I check? I may not even need the CD.

Will Bill: Thanks, dude!

CuRTis ( 64.161.24.75 ) at 9:41 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
CongraTs Sonic!!!

SonicBit: I have the CD copy of the lastest 9000 firmware that Gar sent my way. You're welcome to have it if you like.

A killer pre/pro, Cinepro ... you'll be putting in a Sony G90 FP before you know it! You've come a long way. Enjoy.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.176 ) at 8:18 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Golf pals... (OT)

RickMTB: Congrats on the Taylormade. They make great golf clubs.

Congrats Sonic!!!!!
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.176 ) at 8:13 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Subs and More Subs

All: Have any of you heard or demoed the Revel subs? Info here, http://www.revelspeakers.com/revelB15.html. The Performa sub is the one I'd like feedback on. TIA.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.169 ) at 8:05 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Ron H

Rich F:I have read that paper and would really like to consider it but due to room restraints it is not a possibility. The new subs are 19" deep by 20" tall by 24" wide. I do not have the realestate to have those monsters on the floor right under the side speakers and still walk to the front of the room to get a seat.

I will keep thinking about it though. There must be a way.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.49 ) at 8:04 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Golf pals... (OT)

Spent money todat. Wanted to spend $150, went to golfsmith, and tried a bunch of new drivers. Really liked the Cleveland Ti Quadpro, but $299! Um, oh well. Narrowed down to a Lynx Parallax, a Calloway Big Bertha, and a Taylormade Supersteel. The Taylormade came closest to the Cleveland (man, I really liked that titanium club) so I got it for $179. I got it in a 12 degree, with bubblegraphite since I hit low and I hoped the graphite would be a little lighter and faster. I really liked that titatium driver though (sorta like settling for the Outlaq when you really wanted the ATI...
Ron H ( 63.26.163.169 ) at 7:56 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001

Gasgeek: Funny you mentioned gas,our gas bills also have almost doubled here.
Rich F ( 172.134.41.88 ) at 7:53 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Ron H

Hi Ron, their was a white paper out once on the bass management that was used to set up the Lexicon and they suggested using the subs on the side channels set at full range and them sent to the side speakers after the sub.
Rich F ( 172.134.41.88 ) at 7:51 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
JBC

I would also like a copy of the settings program for the Lex as I have the MC1
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:50 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Congrads Sonic!!!

Darian: Thanks! I've been too busy watching movies to get online and post about it. So far so good. The Cinepro amp made a great improvement to my HT sound and the Sony has tweaked it nicely! Now to get a sub, a new TV, a Pronto...it's never ending!!! Oh did I mention new DVD player too?

9000ES owners: How do I check what version I'm running. It's brand spanking new, but never hurts to check.

Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 7:12 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001

Everyone: The Spleen has left the building, have a good weekend!!!
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 7:10 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001

Gar: I love the glow of tubes and prefer to leave the amps uncaged, but I do use cages on two of the four amps in the summer because they act as a heat shield and actually help keep the room cooler in the summer (and temps here can hit the 120's - yikes!).
Derb ( 199.174.5.121 ) at 7:09 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
RPTV

Gasgeek: Thanx, I'll tell him to look into the Sony V series also.
Gar ( 169.207.194.151 ) at 6:55 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Winston

Not a tube gear guy anymore because of exactly what happened. Had a couple of Tube Amps a few years back ago and left them on for a few hours while I went to go pick up some takeout.... Doh!! One blew and started the curtian on fire a few feet away, lucky I got back just in time to put the damn thing out. I highly recommend a enclosed Tube Amp
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