Archive from 04-06-2001
Gar ( 169.207.194.151 ) at 6:50 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
FYI
CuRTis:Hey man that was based on your recommendations, that I get the Sony S-7000 and mate it with a iScan Pro.. The results are fantastic, better then any Progressive Piece on the market right now. I also am using a Panasonic RV-80, both units put up a great image.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:50 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Derb: I had the Tosh TP50H60 and enjoyed it a lot. If your friend is looking for an analog RTV, I tell anyone that will listen to shop for a V series Sony 48 or 53. Their MSRP is a little higher than what your friend is looking at, but I have seen great buys on these sets since they are analog. A friend of mine was buying things for his new condo and was able to include a 48" V series Sony in with his washer/dryer/refrig/receiver for $1500. The guts of the V series is basically the old XBR series prior to HD ready. Incredible picture for the money.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.43 ) at 6:42 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Power Tools
I can't believe you guys! Talking about power tools so openly! They were designed to sever people's limbs and cause other maiming type injuries! I mean, it's just sick! look here! 
Derb ( 199.174.5.121 ) at 6:37 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
TOSHIBA
Joe: Thanx, I'll let him know the good luck yo have had. He knows I have a direct view 32" Toshiba and has been great, going on about 7 years old. I have found Toshiba to stand behind there products also,
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 6:28 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Ranting
Gasgeek: I don't blame you for ranting, the energy situation in CA is a mess. We're completely isolated here in AZ from what you're experiencing but we sympathize with you and are scared about what might happen to us in the future. I just talked to a buddy back in Chicago and he says the cost of gasoline is supposed to exceed $2 gallon by summer. Not good, and no good news in sight.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 6:18 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Tube amps sound spectacular but they can be a major pain in the butt sometimes. Last night I flipped on my center amp (only) bacause I wanted to watch a mono movie on DVD. I left room for 30 seconds while it was warming up and when I returned it looked like a miniature version of the Chernobyl incident. The three output tubes on the left channel were glowing so red I though they would explode. Turns out that a resistor let go and caused the tubes to run away. I'm pretty sure I can fix the problem myself - tube amps are pretty easy to trouble shoot as long as you're careful not to get electrocuted (really, lethal voltages inside) but naturally nobody locally has the proper value resistor and have to drive all the way to Tempe tomorrow to get the dude.
Oh well, at least I can my reconfigure on of my two rear SE-40 amps from mono to stereo for the rear channels and move the other one up front for the center so I can have full surround tonight. But it's still a pain in the a@@!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:17 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Congrads Sonic!!!
SonicBit picked up a Sony 9000 today. That brings the forum up to how many users now? Maybe someone could loan old bit an Update CD for the 9000? Surely the new remote codes have been Pronto'd by now. Haven't they???
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:09 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
TGIF to you Mr. Spleen you Desert flower you! As you can see, I'm pontificating here today.
By the way. Ranting over!!!!
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:08 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Ron H: Agreed. If you haven't guessed, I'm on the Gas side. Most electricity in CA is generated by natural gas. The gas industry was also deregulated, but not quite as ignorantly as the electric side. Although, before deregulation, we were required to have a seven year supply guaranteed at a reasonable rate. We did this with the long term contracts and used to take a lot of verbal abuse because spot market prices were sometimes less than contract prices. Thus the wisdom to allow everyone the opportunity to purchase gas from the supplier/well head if you will.
We now pass the wholesale price of gas straight through to the customer with a tranportation fee that is actually less than what we charged per therm three years ago.
However, the wholesale price at the CA border that we pay was approx. $53 dollar per million btu's in December 2000. In December of 1999, we paid approx. $3 per million for the same gas. "Can you say lessons from OPEC here?"
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 6:02 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Hello everyone. Been in meetings most of the day but wanted to see what's up before the weekend.
Special greetings to Gasgeek, Curtis, Kieran. TGIF!
Ron H ( 63.26.164.53 ) at 5:49 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Gasgeek: We are on our third price increase in Houston since August. A 25%, then a 15% and now another 20%. I do not like the price increases but at least I have a dependable source. My electricty comes from one of your outside suppliers.
I read that a few states in the Virginia area have grouped togather, deregulated their electricity and it is going fantastic. It is too bad for you that your state was the one the rest have learned from.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:44 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Curtis: Fortunately the other states can use this mess as an example, unfortunatly, everyone nationwide is going to have to pay for this mess in the longrun.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.75 ) at 5:38 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Gasgeek: It is a huge mess and it's clearly going to cost someone a fortune to fix. I agree that the outside energy producers huge price increases are the major culprit. Imagine any business having their costs skyrocket this rapidly.
If nothing else CA will serve as the model of what not to do in other states.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:28 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Oh by the way. What JBC said on the pensions. Sorry for the long post, but I'm pretty close to this thing.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:27 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Sorry, but this is going to be long. Just a very generalized, simplified insight as to what is actually going on in the California energy debacle.
California was the first state to totally deregulate their electric utilities. In their bureaucratic wisdom, the CPUC and the state legislature pushed this lovely idea through with the complete backing from out of state energy service providers such as Enron, Southern Companies, Duke Energ,y etc. These folks convinced the politicians that if they allowed supply and demand to set energy prices rather than the big, bad public owned utilities , that prices would obviously go down. (Sound familiar, telephone, airlines, etc.) Keep in mind, that the utilities have always been required to buy a stable, reasonably priced, long term supply of power to guarantee that the good citizens would always have energy. Because of long term contracts, the price was sometimes higher on the immediate spot market than what the contracts called for. This alerted the always right government entities to the fact that they could do it better.
The state of CA forced all of their Electrical utilities to sell off the majority of their wholly owned electric generation facilities. The large outside energy service providers then, out of the goodness of their heart, purchased these power generation facilities, at a very reasonable price. (the government kind of snickered at the foolishness of these large giants paying such a high price for old facilities.) Oh by the way, these plants all paid for themselves in full within two years.
Because of the very high demand for electricity last summer for AC and one of the coldest winters in CA in 40 years, the demand for electricity has been very high. Our good friends, the outside energy service providers who encouraged the deregulation just happened to raise their prices by about 300%. The way deregulation works in CA is that the public owned utilities are not allowed to make any profit on the actual price of electricity or gas. They have transportation fees that are attached, but the customer is required to pay whatever the wholesale price of the commodity is.
In steps the political machine that is up for re-election. The governor in all his wisdom declares a price ceiling on what the utilities can charge for the electricity that they are passing through, but their is no ceiling on what the wholesalers can charge the utilities (controlled by the Federal Energy Resource Commission.)
To put this into HT terms. Your dealer is paying $5000 for a pre/pro, but the government says that he can only charge the customer $2000, and the demand is at an all time high and your dealer is required by law to supply as many as the customer wants or needs.
The utilities are losing their credit rating and cash reserves because they are not taking in enough money to cover their costs. Now the other watchdog type agencies (read Ralph Nader type geniuses) say that the utilities should take all of their assets, savings and profits from other areas and pay the difference out of the goodness of their hearts. Screw the fact that these utilities are "Public owned and publicly traded businesses."
The bottom line is bankruptcy. The governor wants to get elected so is proposing that there will only be limited rate increases and has proposed that the state now buy the transmissions lines from the utilities. That won't put one electron into the system, but it sounds good to him. Still no answer insight as to who is going to pay the difference between the cost of the product and the forced low price of the product. None of this would have happened if 1. Some limit were put on the wholesale price or 2. The customer's would have been required to pay the price as required under deregulation. The system is broken and no one knows how to fix it.
The genius of government officials at work. Oh by the way, the legislature, governor and the CPUC are all busy pointed their fingers at the utilities and each other rather than stepping up and saying that they screwed up. It's that simple.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:16 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Kieran: From what I understand the Philips doesn't support 720P. I think I may have found THE DEAL...
NEC LT 150, 800 Lumen 800:1 Contrast Ratio XGA DLP Projector + GreyHawk 4:3 100" Screen. Under $6000. Maybe I can do better if I go with a 16:9 Screen. I will not be using this thing much with 4:3 sources. If I did my Tuner 16:9s the output to HD standards.
Now I am just getting odd. What if I made a track to slide the projector back and forth to get 16:9 correct with black bars masked with blackout? And 4:3 smaller in the middle of the screen?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:55 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Mistake in point 4. "are" = "are not". The point being that pension plan trusts are creditor proof!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:53 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Kieran: I will put on my actuaries hat here. The treatment of pension is dependent as to whether the pensiona plans themselves are qualified or not. Very simply:
1. The financial position of a company has nothing to do with the financial positionof a pension plan. A company can be either solvent or insolvent with its pension similarly being either solvent or insolvent.
2. ERISA (i.e. US QPP law) requires annual valuation for the express purpose of ensuring that pension plans are solvent.
3. PBGC (i.e. Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation) will cover some, but likely not all, of any shortfall. Once again, large shortfalls are unlikely.
4. Pension plan funds are invested in separate trusts, as required by ERISA, which means they are an asset of the company (i.e. creditors cannot go after them).
What people will loose, once the company closes their doors, is the accrual of future benefits (i.e. the above applies to benefits accrued to date).
If there is anything else, let me know.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:52 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Classic Movies I've never seen
There are too many too list... However here are three that have come out on DVD (or will soon) that I planning on buying, sight unseen (as I did with North by Northwest) --
Lawrence of Arabia
Ben-Hur
Spartacus
I am seriously lacking when it comes to having seen some of the best classics. I suppose it has something to do with my generation! I caught up on a lot of war classics last couple of years, at least!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 4:39 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
PG&E Files bankrupt?
Kieran: I suspect PG&E reorganizes, perhaps works out some debt repayment (or the debt disappears altogether, but their credit rating goes further in the hole, and most jobs are saved. I doubt they disappears (and CA residents scramble to find some other energy supplier).
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 4:28 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
PG&E Files bankrupt?
RickMTB: Damn, that's bad news. So what happens to people's pensions and other retirement plans when a company like PG&E files for bankrupcy? Our next door neighbor has been working for PG&E for probably over 30 years. I'd hate to see people like him getting screwed.
Joe ( 205.188.198.26 ) at 4:16 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Tivo cutting back
CuRTis: With this news and Replay going under it looks like Microsoft will rule the market. Personally if I had Direct TV instead of Dish I would go with the MS product. The option to recors 2 shows is the kicker.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 4:06 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
PG&E Files bankrupt?
Guess we won't be getting paid for all that electricity we floated California...
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.75 ) at 3:49 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Tivo cutting back
They're laying off 80 people and cutting the research budget by 50%, cancelled a planned secondary IPO and will be relying much more on their partners AOL and DirecTV to get product out the door. Overall expenses must be cut by 35%, according to their CEO.
This is not good news for any innovative new products.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 2:55 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Darian,BIG AL: I am green with envy. You scooped the exact combination I am trying to lay my hands on. Congrats and Enjoy!
Joe ( 205.188.198.58 ) at 2:38 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
TOSHIBA
Derb: We have 3 Toshibas in the Family. I have the 55" and my in-laws have 2 50h60 modles. They work just fine. The 50" is at the lake and thier main house. The picture is good and the remote is easy to use. They have a full set of inputs. I paid $1760 for my 55" and I think the 50" ones were around $1500.
Derb ( 208.134.148.161 ) at 2:32 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
TOSHIBA
Kieran: Thanx, for the input. He would like to stay with the 4:3 image for now and would like something at least 50". Any input on a 4:3 RPTV for that price range?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:15 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Darian: Hey, that 64" Philips is nothing to sneeze at! I'd say go for it, if it's in your budget... full 1080i, 720p, 480p...
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:56 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Well My budget is now shot. I was hoping to move up to DLP FP and Screen. For close to the price of the Philips 64: set. Man this FP stuff is expensive!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 1:53 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
TOSHIBA
Derb: Personally, for that price range, I'd go with a TW40X81, or 40H80... both are basically the same TV, and do 480p and 1080i. He may not want them though, as they are on the small side ... 40" 16:9 screens. If he wants a big 4:3 image, then forget it. If he likes his 16:9 movies, then the 40" 16:9 is bigger than what he'd get letterboxed on a 50".
Derb ( 208.134.148.161 ) at 1:49 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
TOSHIBA
ALL: I have a friend at work looking for a big screen TV. His first choice is a Toshiba 50A50. Anyone have any thoughts in regards to this RPTV. Is looking for something in the $1800/$2000 range. Any recomendations would be helpful
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:34 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
JBC: Received the Pro 20 and the Supply III earlier this week.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:26 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Darian: Just curious what CInepro gear is BIG AL taking of your hands?
AVB ( 64.41.32.134 ) at 12:47 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Furman
Darian: I've actually seen the IT Reference. Looks pretty good but I'm not sure what their market is given how they have divided up the circuits.
I can get the Furman AR-1220 at a decent price ($625)and I really don't think that there would be that much difference between it and the Power Supply III but I might as well have everything match at this point.
I need to find a deal like I did for the PP30 & PS30....52% off list delivered.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:37 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Prices...
AVB: Anytime you email me about the price of something I get scared. Our years of association on this forum goes right out the Window when you start beating on me with pricing!
Have you looked into the Furman IT Referance? Interesting concept but no balanced for amps.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:30 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
AVB: the BK comes with an amp as a Promo right now. The amp is a pro amp and only has balanced and phono ins. It is sitting in the corner of my room. I haven't been able to build a platform for the BK to couple to my chairs yet. We have a rep for Butt Kicker that wants us on the line. THERE IS ZERO MARGIN on the unit. BK sells to dealers at the same price as end consummers currently. You can be assured my cohort is dying to get this line. BK claims that the promo will end soon and prices will change. BK thinks of the product as somethng that they can sell to DIY guys and INSTALLERS CAN "ADD VALUE" BY USING IN INSTALLS. Ala... only money is for installation.
AVB ( 64.41.32.134 ) at 12:17 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Darian: Ignore my email.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:12 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
JBC: Extra Big Al Inherited the 20 amp Cinepro stuff. We worked it out a while back.
AVB ( 64.41.32.134 ) at 12:06 PM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Cinepro and Power.
Darian: I run 12-15 amps all the time for just the 3K6SEIII. Mine is also hooked up to a 20 amp line at the moment but the 30 is going in within the next 2 weeks.
BTW, how much does the BK go for?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 11:41 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Power Tools
BC, Joe, Chris: Thanks for the input. If the Delta 10" is still on sale for $100, I think I'll buy it. If not (regular was ~$150 I think) then I'll just rent, especially since the rental place is less than 2 miles from my condo. The rental fee is kinda steep though, at ~$35/day or $9/hr (2 hr min.)
I like DeWalt also, but they're pretty expensive. I don't own any DeWalt, but have used friend's stuff. I own a Makita cordless drill, and palm sander. Makita seems pretty good. Although my friend's DeWalt drill was really impressive... he was building a deck or something one time, and needed (don't know why) to drive a 3/8" diameter wood screw. He had to set the torque setting to "lock" as the clutch would give on anything less, if he hit a knot in the wood. So anyway, he wasn't paying attention, and drove the screw right down till the head hit the washer, and the damn motor (only a 14.4V I think) torqued the head right off the screw! He said he thought it was really cool at first, until he had to figure out how to get the screw out of the wood! 
Chris L. ( 152.163.207.57 ) at 11:19 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
That's a great price BTW!
Chris L. ( 152.163.207.57 ) at 11:19 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Gasgeek: Oh yeah?? I'll sell mine for $100! BWAHAHAHAHA!! Just kidding JJ.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:05 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
JJ: If you're out there Bud! Talked with my friend about the Denon AVD-2000. If you want it, it's yours. $125 and you pay the shipping. If you're still interested, I will hook the two of you up and you can work out the details. Let me know.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:18 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Darian: I would be happy to take the PowerSupply III off your hands.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:08 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Cinepro and Power.
Is 20 amps enough? The other day I hooked up a Guitamer Butt Kicker to my 3k6seIII. The output was pothetic. The manual states that they want 1000 watts as a recommmendation. I GOT YOUR 1000 WATTS RIGHT HERE! I hooked up the BK to my 1k2se. This was sending 1400 watts to the BK at 4 ohms. Well this shoock the concrete foundation and over drove the BK big time. The thing was the amount of power it was using. I turned off everything in my system an The only things running were the:
EAD TheaterMaster Preamp
EAD TheaterVision P DVD
And the 1k2se
The readout on the PowerSupply III red 18 AMPS. No joke the lights went up into the red constantly. All I was running was the BK. My speakers were off and so was the monitor. NOW HERE IS THE KICKER. I DIDN'T CLIP THE AMP! No red lights at all! Now if the 1k2se needs that sort of power and won't clip....
Is my 20 amp circuit starving my 3k6se??? Good thing I have the 30 amp products on the way.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:05 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Cinepro Thumps
Darian: The thumps can also be avoided by just leaving the damn thing on, which is what I am doing until I hear back from Lexicon.
I do also believe that this problem lies with Lexicon as the trigger mechanism in the Cinepro does work. Now, whether they could have designed a system that does not generate thumps and thus not bugger up the Lexicon is an interesting question.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:01 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Cinepro Thumps
I figured out how to keep my Cinepro from thumping. I turn it on first! thats right, FIRST. Then I turn on the preamp. Wait for the Preamp to initalize and display source. Then the audio starts. Then I hit the power on my monitor. If I turn on the EAD first I get a Thump from the Amp as I flip the switch.
Shut down... Kill the amp before the preamp. No thumps
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:48 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Man is my typint bad.. "hust" = "just"
AVB: Yes, I did mean reset. For now I am not using the trigger mechanism. I am waiting to see what Lexicon comes up with.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:42 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Ron H: My bad luck hust abounds. I called the folks at Lexicon... they think that I am nuts! At least they provide good customer service and have already called back twice within the last 45 minutes.
AVB ( 64.41.32.3 ) at 9:29 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Subs and More Subs
mic: What are you asking me?
AVB ( 64.41.32.3 ) at 9:28 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Cinepro Trigger Problems Continue...Does This Make Sense
JBC: There will be a current surge when the amp comes on and draws whatever is required to make the thumps. I'm not sure what you mean by "require a rest", do you mean reset? Since I don't know how sensitive the Lex is you are asking a question I can't answer with any authority.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 9:14 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
VCD
I was in china town for lunch yesterday (work in NYC). next door was a store that sold VCD, stopped in and purchased The Phantom Menace, 2 disks box under $20. They played great on my Sony DVD. Looked a little soft but very impressive for a cd, I was saying to myself the color looks very good, then it hit me, the Sony was putting this out thru the component video outs. the sound was DD prologic also pretty impressive. The sony put it out as PCM 16/44.1k, decode buy my 568 as DPLII/THX, sounded much better than the VHS copy & looked much better also, surprizing amount and quality of bass. I made a copy of the disks but my sony would not play them, but they did play on my IBM laptop that has a MPEG1 decoder chip in it. The bad part was chinese subtiles that can't be turn off.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 9:03 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: Without knowing the quality of the subs and amp, I don't think I would use them for the fronts. I would use them to power the sides and rears, run them full range and use one sub for the left side & rear and one sub the the right side and rear, you would need 2 c/o's.
Or Use the cinpro to biamp the SL-3 (4 channels) 1ch for the center, 1 ch for the sub, use the other 5 channel amp for the 2 sides & 2 rears and the 1 ch for the 2 subs.
AVB: do you know what the c/o spec's for the x10 are, or do you the website.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:57 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Cinepro Trigger Problems Continue...Does This Make Sense
AVB: I agree with what you say. That said, is it possible that the thumping and associated electrical signal/trigger transmitted by the Lexicon can:
a) Cause a power surge or sag; and
b) The Aforementioned power surge or sag is sufficient to require a rest?
Chris L. ( 64.12.104.43 ) at 8:50 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
The 12" DeWalt, that is.
Chris L. ( 64.12.104.43 ) at 8:49 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Kieran
Joe: That's the same saw I have. I haven't used it that much but I can see how it would perform well under heavy use.
AVB ( 64.41.32.29 ) at 8:23 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Cinepro Trigger Problems Continue...Does This Make Sense
JBC: The trigger on the new Cinepro's is opticly isolated and is only a 12v signal so it doesn't make sense you would have this problem. You will always get more noise at turn off when the source and the amp go off at the same time. The thumps are caused by the amp turning on immediately while the prepro is still hasn't setteled down. There are a few solutions and all involve isolating the turn on/off times. I don't know if there is any way to set the trigger delay on your Lex but I haven't seen that feature on any other prepro.
The problem is to get the source on before the amps and off after the amps to get the least amount of pops and thumps. Those noises really won't hurt your speakers but I just don't like them and jury-rigged a way around it, but I do have to manually turn on the PS-PRO to start the system. I can't think of any way to do the proper (in my way of thinking) sequence with a remote becuase the prepro will always be the first item on and the first item off.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 8:21 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Good morning gang.
Kieran - If you can afford it, I would also recommend a miter saw before a table saw. A 12" is nice when you have to cut big wood (huh, huh, big wood) A 10" is probably fine for the casual home fixer upper.
I picked mine up on clearance for $200. It's a pro-tech 12" compound miter. It looks like a dewalt. I build fences in the summer so my stuff gets lots of use. Dewalt also is good stuff, as is porter cable and hitachi. Delta is geared more towards the casual user. It's quality stuff, just not designed for heavy use IMHO. I use a delta table saw but the motor tends to bog down on me because I put alot of lumber through it. Now my friends $700 porter cable table saw....that's the ****. ug ug ug grunt grunt grunt. It's just like HT, you can always spend a little more for that little extra performance!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:43 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Darian: The amp is running on a dedicated 20 amp circuit. The pre/pro is connected to a Panamax 1500 which is running on a dedicated 15 amp circuit (this will changewhen I get a PP20).
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 7:39 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Sapranos
Can you belive it, a guy is suing the show " It protrays Itlian Americans in a bad way" They have the lawer on GMA now.
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 7:36 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
I just want to say I SLEPT ON THE FLOOR FOR THE LASTNIGHT...I get a bed today, I get a bed today 
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 7:35 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
Kieran
Sorry for not responding lastnight. I think a miter saw is more usefull. A table saw is nice and someday I will buy one. I guess it's how much money you want to spend. I would go with a miter first, you can use it for differnt things.
Delta is a brand name, they make good tools that are priced for the homeowner that only uses it now and then. I have a 12" DeWalt but it was $300 and I was also looking at building a deck and 3 docks this summer at relatives lake places. So I wanted the bigger saw.
The other thing about delta is they are very light, hey you probabley not up yet 
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 1:28 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
FYI
Gar: There goes Gar again trying to seperate me from my money Mate one of these to any used iScan and you have one sweet setup for a steal. Don't worry, I'm not biting on anything till I get this FP up and running.
Oh DUANE - where are you, old buddy, old pal?!
Gar ( 169.207.193.254 ) at 12:57 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
FYI
Anyone looking for a good interlaced DVD player I have seen a few Sony S-7000 for $345 and $350 on Audiogon, a bargin at that price.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:09 AM EST Friday, April 6, 2001
JBC: i know 2 guys with Lex preamps. Both are DC-1s that I think are current. One guy has real bad electricity. He bought a home from a Army Electrition. I have never seen such a rats nest in terms of electricity. 10 amp breakers that hed 8 daisy chained outlets. Any ways, this guy has problems all the time with his Lex needing to be reset. A dedicated line to his HT and not split all over the house curred the problem.
You get any line conditioning yet?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:56 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Cinepro Trigger Problems Continue...Does This Make Sense
Darian: Sorry to hear that you too wasted time with the Cinepro trigger -- for some reason they just can not get it right!
That said, does my explanation/situation make sense to you?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:54 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Cinepro Trigger Problems Continue...Does This Make Sense
JBC: I wasted the better part of a day on the Cinepro trigger. I found a descret code to have the EAD send a SCREEN DOWN command. Screen down triggered the EAD PowerMaster 2000. I called up Cinepro to get the spec for the trigger. Eric gave me the wrong plug size. Got the wrong plug and took it home. Didn't fit... back to the Shack. Got the right part and hooked it up. Cinepro shut down. Sent the Screen down code to the EAD. The EAD made a relay noise and indicated that the screen was down. NO light on the Cinepro. Reversed all poles and so forth. NOTHING. Called up Cinepro, Remember when they listed EAD as one of the manufactures they set up the trigger to work with. That just isn't the case.
It seems the TheaterMasters only send a pulse. The Cinepro needs a constant 12 Volts to turn on. Bummer!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:48 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
AVB: Thanks for the info... I try via e-mail!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:45 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Cinepro Trigger Problems Continue...Does This Make Sense
All: Last night when I tried to watch a dts DVD I had a problem, there was no sound. I went digging into the manual and found the following on page 57
If severe power surges or sags cause problems with the MC-1 operation, or you simply want to start with a clean slate, you can restore all of the factory defaults with the following procedure...
I decided OK... no big deal let's start with a clean slate. I decide to do a factory reset and see what happens. After the factory reset the problem was solved, there was sound playing my ts DVD.
I return tonight to watch the end of the dts DVD and guess what, there was no sound! Then I think, everytime I turn the system off, the trigger mechanism between the Lexicon MC-1 and the Cinepro 3K6 MKIII causes a thumping sound! Could this be a power surge or sage as described in the manual. So, off I go and do another factory reset AFTER disconnecting the trigger mechanism (which means that the Cinepro 3K6 MKIII) remains on when system is turned off.
Guess what, the problem appears to be solved in that I turned the system on/off 5 times and each time it worked, there was sound!
The two questions are:
a) Does this make sense?
b) Why does it only effect dts playback (i.e. prologic and dolby digital are not affected)?
AVB ( 64.41.32.188 ) at 11:33 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Darian: I have bought from him in the past. Just giving JBC some info.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:31 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
JBC/AVB: WhatCHa you getting from Adrian?
AVB ( 64.41.32.188 ) at 11:25 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
JBC: Actually there isn't a toll number listed. www.adrianht.com
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.154 ) at 10:15 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
House work
Kieran: Buy Dewalt. I've never had a problem with any of their tools. I do have a Delta drill press and it performs flawlessly.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.154 ) at 10:14 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Hey guys. Darian was kind enough to drop in on me at work this afternoon. We had a nice chat and he got to see our rooms. Maybwe next time I'll crank up the Meridian Digital system for him. We only took it up to about 78db today. I'm interested in his comments based on his very brief look at the system. I'm starting to settle into the install side of the business. I spent all day yesterday and today working on installs and I will be doing the same today. It is amazing to see the lack of attention to detail that some guys have out in the field. Not to offend the non-homeowners here, but I was working with an apartment dweller today and he just doesn't seem to understand treating the customers home like it is your own. I had to reroute wires to avoid drywall issues and do several other small fixes to assure a proper "finished" look to the install. They weren't even labeling wires. No big deal? The wires that weren't labeled were the feeds to 16 different satellite receivers! Try troubleshooting THAT without labeled wires. Needless to say, they are now being labeled.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:12 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
AVB: I will e-mail him firstthing tomorrow and see what can be worked out. Before I e-mail him, do you have his URL as this will have his toll telephone number which would make things a little easier and quicker. Please advise. TIA!
Ron H ( 63.232.70.250 ) at 9:38 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
AVB: You have mail
AVB ( 64.41.33.191 ) at 9:17 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: Email me your asking price please. I may be interested.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.184 ) at 8:27 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Ron
Joe:Mail is on the way. You have some strange brackets with a b following your addy in your name link.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 8:26 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
House work
Joe: I was thinking about it, (buying the miter saw) but if I'm going to get a saw of that nature, I thought a table saw would have more long term usefulness... am I mistaken? If you had to choose one or the other to have in your shop, which would it be?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 8:24 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
House work
Joe: Is Delta the brand name?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 8:23 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
CuRTis: email back atcha. (fairly long)
Ron H ( 63.26.163.184 ) at 8:22 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Ron
Joe: Send me a e-mail that I can reply too. My mail server keeps rejecting your addy. In the mean time here is a link on the amp.
http://www.parasound.com/products/amplifiers/hca1000a.html
Ron H ( 63.26.163.184 ) at 8:17 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
AVB: The amp is the HCA-1000A. I am planning on ordering the crossover. I will place the order tonight or tommorow. I will try switching the phase of the subs. With the crossover I will be able to try all the different options I spoke about.
Derb ( 199.174.7.5 ) at 8:11 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Martini's & Logan
Ron H: I'm using the Scenarios for my surrounds. I would have bought the SL-3 but they would not have fit on the right side of the room. I have the right side close to the fireplace and the speaker has to fit under the mantel. The placement for the Scenarios sucks as it is right now. But I'm willing to see if they would work out. I really need a new house and buy those Requests for my surrounds myself I'll need to have you over and bring some set-up DVD dics & SPL meter because I have this whole thing screwed up, I think. I need to send my EAD in for up-grade first.
To answer your question for the Requests, man that's a good one. I'm not to sure. You would really have to try them out. But, I think the Requests like a big room. I know my room is bright, and has a bad slap echo. But it is open on both sides and has a vaulted ceiling.
Joe ( 152.163.194.192 ) at 8:10 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
House work
Kieran: Cool, Spend the $169 or $99 and get yourself a 10" Delta miter Saw. It is a good saw to have aroud the house. It should last for a longtime. Once you have one you will be amazed how many little things it can be used for.
Joe ( 152.163.194.192 ) at 8:01 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Big Al
Ok ,cool race, we need to find some back issues and see what Team Playboy is really made of 
Joe ( 152.163.194.192 ) at 8:00 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Ron
Please send me a E-Mail on your Parasound.
AVB ( 64.41.33.140 ) at 7:16 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
JBC: The number works just fine. I just got his machine. I think that the 866 toll free extention doesn't work from Canada. Email him and ask for a standard area code and number. Or maybe you can do business just by email.
AVB ( 64.41.33.35 ) at 7:08 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: If you run the new subs in the rear put them out of phase with the fronts. I would go full range in the rear provided you buy the crossover. JMHO of course. Second choice would be to add to the LFE but keep the subs in the rear and out of phase. Let us know what you end up doing and how it works.
Are you going to get the crossover?
With 14 channels you have more then I do at 13. I need 15 if I ever move up to an MC-1 though. What Parasound will you be selling?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:27 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Chris L: LOL!!!
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 5:54 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
JBC: That was great! Check THIS out too!
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 5:44 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Gasgeek: A belated congratulations on the Accord (at least I think it was you). Mine is nothing more than an Accord on steroids with a lots of extra bells and whistles.
Ron H ( 216.119.162.19 ) at 5:24 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
JBC: LOL
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:18 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Ron H: I had to rer-send it to your wt e-mail address as your msn e-mail bounced it becasue it was over 1.5 MB. Go figure!
All: Here is just about the best web site on the net. Be sure to visit and bookmark it or just click on it now.... http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
Ron H ( 63.26.164.180 ) at 4:55 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
JBC: Thanks
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:49 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
I'm 10% poorer
What was that you said, Curtis, about me saving for more HT stuff?
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010405/0444.html
The bad news: Agilent is cutting everyone's pay (company wide) by 10% for at least two months, maybe more.
The good news: There will be no lay-offs... a much better solution in my oppinion than many other high-tech firms are choosing.
The other good news: Our stock went up almost 10% today.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 4:48 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ Master Craftsman
CuRTis: There're plenty of web sites that'll give you lat&lon by simply entering the street addy, btw! I know, I know, that's not nearly as fun as gps!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:39 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Ron H: You have e-mail, specifically the LexiPanel application. You will need a 9 pin serial cable to use it.
AVB: The phone you gave me no longer works. I guess he is out of business. Thanks for thinking of me.
Joe: Good luck with the job!
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 4:39 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Acura Sound Systems
Robert: Even though it has Bose (!)speakers I must admit that the sounds system is great. A 9" sub's mounted on the rear deck and it does seem that someone took a lot of care designing the system. A 6 disc in-dash CD changer is a much better idea than a trunk mounted solution. Everyone I know with the latter rarely bothers to change discs.
I'm guessing they use a Pioneer stereo? I can't imagine ever wanting to upgrade it.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 4:34 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Internet connection
Ron H: Yep, get wired on java and never run out of bandwidth or battery. One reason I like my wireless Net cafe's is that they limit you to 2 hours per session.
Robert ( 63.11.62.50 ) at 4:17 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Acura Sound Systems
Curtis, How do you like your Acura's sound system
Ron H ( 63.26.174.177 ) at 4:15 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Internet connection
CuRTis: I was in a newly opened Starbucks yesterday. It is accross the street from another one. Anyway I thought of you and your cafe when to my suprise I spotted a bar counter in there that had rows of jacks for internet connections and outlets to power your laptop..
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 4:12 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
pinch in = punch in, duh
Ron H ( 63.26.174.177 ) at 4:12 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
To all: I was not really talking to myself.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.177 ) at 4:11 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: The Parasound is what I was using to feed my rear channels in a 7.1 set-up so it is a two channel amp. It is perfect for that useor even to drive a set of TTs. It has a trigger so it can be turned on automaticly with your pre/pro. It is the HCA100A model.
I just remembered I still have the Sunfire Cinepro in my possesion. That comes to a total of 19 channels of amp power. Hmmmm how could I use all of these. 7 passive subs one for each channel, R-C-L, right side-left side, right rear-left rear and Tactile transducers. Hmmm that is only 15 channels four more to go. I guess I could add additional sides and rears.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 4:11 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ Master Craftsman
Kieran: SOunds like your place is really coming together. Finish carpenters charge a fortune around here, so you're saving for more HT toys.
I thought about your dad with The Masters on in HD. Bring him down this weekend if you like. Kevin's house is the worse OTA reception on earth! I picked up a Channel Master preamp today and will see if that helps. While I'm there I'll get the exact lat/long position from the navigation system in the new car. It even gets elevation. Don't know how I lived without a GPS & suddenly I'm on time for all appointments! Pinch in a phone # for a biz and it finds your way.
Email coming.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.215 ) at 3:56 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
AVB: Many thanks. That looks like just what I was looking for.
Do you have any thoughts on which setup may work best for the subs?
Full range fronts?
Full range rears?
Additional subs for the .1?
I just tried a splitter for the fun of it coming off my sub output and ran it to the new amp. Suprisingly when I did my white noise to balance the level it only was up about 1-2 dbs.
I put on the sat at first and really did not notice much difference. I then put on Replacement Killers to see how music with a deep bass would sound, as this movie has at the beginning. Again not much difference. I had even thought it might not be as strong as before.
I next put on U-571. Oh my!!!! It appears that the difference is in the really deep and demanding bass parts. It felt like my hair and t-shirt were moving.
Do you think I may need to change the phase of the new subs when used as 5.1 as they are in the back of the room?
All: Due to the addition of another 5 channel amp I will have a Parasound amp for sale. I currently have 14 channels of amplification with this new amp. Not quite to AVB standards but getting there.
AVB ( 64.41.32.62 ) at 3:18 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: You need a cheap electronic crossover. This will give you a way to balance the subs with whatever speakers that you use, front, rear sides, whatever. Try here http://www.pricemadness.com/cx10.html or here http://www.price-click.com/cx10.html for about a $100 solution.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.118 ) at 2:58 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ FireWire products
CuRTis: When I saw that the Masters was in HD on CBS, I was REALLY bummed that my Dad's house can't get a signal from Sutro. My dear ol' Dad LIVES for golf. In fact the only reason why he got DSS was to get the Golf channel, and the only reason why he chose Dish over DirecTV was because he could get the Golf Channel a la carte... w/o all the other sports networks.
BTW, did you end up picking up a CM 4228 for me that day? I'll pay you for it, never fear. If you didn't, no biggie, I can always get one from them when I need it, right?
Did you ever get a Sutro signal at Kevin's house? Sorry I didn't reply to that at the time... don't know what I was thinking. There's a guy on AVS... John Stephens I think is his name, who has some killer software that he uses to plot the geographical profile between your site and the tower. You just give him the lat&lon of the house, and he'll give you advice on where to point. In that valley/mountainous region, you might have to go for a reflection off an opposite facing hill or something. A pre amp at the antenna wouldn't hurt, either, as long as you're not TOO close to Sutro, which Kevin's not.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:50 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
House work
Joe: Well, I've been doing the home improvement thing lately too. Although my project is of a much smaller scale than yours. Of course this is my first time, so it's appropriate that I start small I guess. Right now (this week), I'm spending 2 hours every day after work painting cupboard doors, attaching hinges and remounting the doors, painting moulding, measuring and miter-cutting the moulding, and installing the moulding. I had Pergo floors put in the downstairs of my condo (~700 sqft I think) but had them NOT do the moulding, since they wanted an ungodly amount/linear foot, and the materials only cost $.50 per foot.
So far I've been mitering with a hand saw and miter box. This just doens't "cut it" though, and this weekend, I'm going to rent a power mitre saw and finish the job. I had to do the bathrooms asap though, so I could get the toilets back in. That meant using the hand saw for the time being.
Man... I need some practice with a hammer! It's been way too long since I swung one with any regularity, and I've lost my knack. I'm bending moulding nails left and right (literally! ... up and down, too). What a pain.... plus nailing in that position isn't easy anyway.
I find it ironic that they make moulding nails painted white, to match if you have white trim. They paint the whole nail white, even though all you care about is the head. And, by the time you've finished hammering the nail in, the paint is gone from the head, anyway! SHEESH!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:40 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Digital cable
Joe,CuRTis: Digital cable's ability to do HD all depends on the bandwidth. AFAIK, most cable laid by cable companies does not have the bandwidth to support HDTV from all 4 major networks, HBO, Showtime, PPV, Discovery, AND at the same time still offer all the 100's of other SDTV cable channels (CNN, ESPN, MTV...) As it is, (to my knowledge) most digital cable systems have less bandwidth than DSS, which is why the picture is generally not as good as DSS. The technology is EXACTLY the same as DSS, though, i.e. MPEG2 video compression. The only difference is the method of delivery of the material (terrestrial vs. orbital). I don't know this, but I'd bet that when a cable company claims their service is BETTER than DSS, they are not talking about quality, they're talking about features. In other words, they may think their GUI is better, or that they can offer ALL your local channels with "digital quality" etc.
As for Curtis' description of "garbage in = perfect garbage out"... while I agree with this, I say it's true if DSS, too. Honestly, all of the digital cable examples I've seen look no better OR WORSE than DSS. It varies depending on where the provider decides to focus their bandwidth at that moment. I believe that the source (i.e. pre-compression) material that the digital cable company gets is just as good as the source material that the DSS companies get. Where the cable company has an advantage over the DSS company is their locality to the customer. While DSS has more bandwidth, they also have to stream ALL their channels down simultaneously... this means a waste of bandwidth in a way, since someone in LA has no interest in seeing the NY Fox affiliate. With the cable company, I'm guessing that they don't have this problem... they just don't carry anything that's not local in the first place.
What really bugs me is when digital cable companies try to get their customers to believe that by getting digital cable, that they are really getting digital TV (i.e. SDTV, 480p). This is not so, of course, it's just 480i MPEG2 material.
The drawback of digital cable is the same as for DSS... you can't split the signal anymore and have video on every TV in the house... you need a receiver box to decode the digital signal at every TV.
Joe ( 152.163.204.63 ) at 2:30 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
I have to go and work more, breaktime over.
Joe ( 152.163.204.63 ) at 2:26 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: If you look in your Crutchfield mag, you can find small filters that are about the size of a .30cal round Anyways you could use these as a low pass.
I know Geo has used them on his Yamaha. I think the lowest is around 50hz. Seems like price tag was around $30
You might also find them at the place by your house that installs car stereos. You the ones that go thump thump thump past your house at night.
Joe ( 152.163.204.63 ) at 2:23 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
I am still trimming rooms. I did not buy a finsih nailer, but if I ever do another project it's first. I still ahve doors to do, I swear it will be a week before I am finish on the doors. This FU)((* urathaining takes forever.
I would predict that with the time I have spent on trim. I will have a easy 40 manhours into the finish work in the theater room. I should say in just staining and clearing.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.88 ) at 2:22 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Joe: If I add the subs to the Rr/Lr then I need some kind of crossover to use.
Joe ( 152.163.204.63 ) at 2:18 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Joe: Ron, Niles makes all kinds of controlls, they might have something also. My .02 would be add it to the back speakers.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.88 ) at 2:18 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Joe: That may be a thought. Anyone have a reason why it would not work?
Anyone have any more thoughts on adding the subs to the rear channels? I am talking balanced properly (if I can figure out how) so the rears become extended full range speakers.
Joe ( 152.163.204.63 ) at 2:14 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: They make colume controls for inwall applications. Would one of these work? you could stick in right inline and adjust with that.
I am thinking Russound.
Joe ( 152.163.204.63 ) at 2:13 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ FireWire products
CuRTis: No masters here. I did finally watch some tennis last weekend. The match with Jennifer and Venus. Now I don't have HDTV or do I really find tennis that interesting. But after watching Jennifer for awhile whens the next match with Anna showing
Ron H ( 63.26.171.88 ) at 2:12 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
CuRTis: I already have the VMPS sub hooked up to my sub output. If I use a splitter off the sub output and add the 2 additional subs I have no way of balancing the level from them with the VMPS. I would leave the VMPS in the front and move the JBLs to the rear.
KPD ( 207.180.0.8 ) at 2:12 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
cables
AVB: I sent you a reply yesterday, just sent another. Thanks
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 2:07 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ FireWire products
Robert: The FCC did say that they must transition off of the old frequencies in time to auction it off for big bucks, yet forgot to spell out that broadcasters must use the new bandwidth for HD specific programming. As it stands today there's nothing stopping a local from splitting up one HD channel into 5 or 6 SD channels.
We're very lucky in this area to have 9 digital OTA's up & running. Once demand in Peroria for HD goes up, they'll deliver the goods. This won't happen til the hardware prices comes down and the salespeople do a much better job of educating the buying public. The sat. and cables companies could offer up a great deal more content as well.
CBS is the model of how to do it right. Show all primetime in HD and get as many major sporting events as possible, even if the hardware makers have to foot the bill for now.
Any golf fans out there plan on watching The Masters in HD from CBS over the next 4 days?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 1:48 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
Ron H: Ron's house is SubCentral! Here are my thoughts on the various scenarios you proposed.
1) Might localize most bass as coming from the back of the room. I would try to .1 output 1st.
2) Great for 2 channel listening but it might overpower the center & surrounds
3) Same problem as #1?
Wouldn't your pre/pro control the output level? Is there a reason you don't have bass management control from the pre/pro to the JBL's? This should negate the need for internal crossovers, no?
Robert ( 63.11.62.50 ) at 1:41 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ FireWire products
Kieran: to throw my two cents in,,,why would you have a HDTV that is only capapble of 480P,,,,,HD content is not HD when shown less than original 720/1080 resolution, This is all posturing, and yes there is a real threat of pirated HD content. No studio in their right mind would give revenue away, and the same issues apply to DVD recordable. 5C et al. is a finger in the dike,,however it placates the studios to provide more and more content. I wouldn't worry about the degredation of HD,,it's not going to happen.... The fact that some broadcasters are tightly linked to studios can be a concern,,,,Manufacturers shouldn't have to fund the networks to broadcast HD,,,something the government mandated.... The government wants their bandwidth back so they can sell it off to priviate inductry,,(see PCS/Digital Cellular licenses), let them help finance the cost of switching over,,,I also know the broadcasters are hoping that the sub channels will help generate revenue through additional advertising and other ways, but that won't happen for quite some time,,,YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HD CHANNEL THAT PEOPLE WATCH FIRST. I'm not the type to watch a barker channel or loop channel unless I was trying to demonstrate for a short period of time,,,just give me my freaking HD !!!, there are several spots in thecountry that have it together in infrastructure, but still don't have 24/7 HD content, SF/LA,,,time for the rest of the broadcasters to get off their ass.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 1:40 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Joe: Good luck with the next round of interviews. I have found that the more time they spend with you & the more people you meet, the better your chances. It's as much about how your personality fits in with the group as your qualifacations.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.88 ) at 1:21 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Subs and More Subs
I just picked up 2 JBL THX subs and a 5 channel amp for near nothing. The sus are from the original JBL HTS THX system which I had owned awhile back. Actually the subs and amp are returning to their orinal home which is me.
I want to use these two subs, which are "passive", in my system. I have the 5 channel amp to powewr them either daisy chaned to together or seperatly.
I have three thoughts about set up.
1. Just tie them into the current .1 channel and put them in the rear of the room.
2. Add one to the right front and one to the left front and truly have full range speakers.
3. Add them to the rears or side channels to make them full range allowing lower bass to be heard in pans and to help energize the room.
I have two problems that are going to make any of the setups work well:
1.The amp has no output level control.
2. There is no crossovers built into the subs.
Any thoughts or ideas on set up type and how to accomplish it?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 12:55 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Digital cable
Joe: The definition of digital cable is; garbage in = perfect garbage out. The only good thing about it is that it can deliver HD content. Time Warner currently sends out HD programming in parts of NYC and Houston via digital cable.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 12:51 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ FireWire products
Kieran: The source is HDTV Magazine. If you're interested in it I'll send along the URL for samples.
I suspect that the paranoia over HD copy protection has more to do with future huge pipe technologies where this material could be distributed rather than what's available today. I'm getting conflicting reports of the delivered image - some swear it's all 1080i, others are sure it'll be dumbed down. Let's hope not.
Joe ( 152.163.204.78 ) at 12:31 PM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Morning all,
Long interview this morning. I would consider that a positive sign. I could not imagine that she would have spent that much time otherwise. Now comes the waiting, there is still one more round to go.
So someone want ot explain the differance between Digitial Cable and plain old cable? The local goverment is going to start the renewal process for the cable provider. Charter Communacations is the provider. They have been waging a blitz about how thier Digitial Cable is better then Sat. Being a concerned citizen, with ties n the local government, I thought I would stir the pot a little bit.
However I want to make sure I have my facts right first.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 11:57 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ FireWire products
CuRTis: From which newsletter did you lift that?
Boy I can't tell you how much this effort towards copy-protection of HD content bugs me. The biggest thing that really gets me, is that from what I've read elsewhere, most likely any copy protection scheme will limit the picture quality of HD material to something only slightly better than 480p (e.g. 960i) I wouldn't mind so much if there was some sort of copy protection in place that didn't limit the quality of the material. Besides, I don't know what they're worrying about... the bandwidth to distribute HD technology over the internet (a'la the articles reference to "Napsterization" of HD material) is very far off. The closest anybody could come would be using something like MPEG4 compression, which when compared to HD quality, is WORSE than MP3 compared to PCM. The big concern of media production companies and artists is the fear that "perfect" digital copies of their work will be floating around the net. A highly compressed version of a show or film is hardly a "perfect" digital copy.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 11:20 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
jeez that was long. I'll filter stuff next time. Interesting events however.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.195 ) at 11:20 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
HD content/ FireWire products
Lifted this from a newsletter. Check the mention of 1394 Sony & Mits products----------------------------------------------------
"Most readers of HDTV Magazine are baffled by the lack of commitment and
enthusiasm the television networks are displaying toward HDTV. They are
displaying such---at least publicly. Working here in Hollywood, CA and
knowing many folks in the post-production community I can tell you all
that the film-to-HD Tape transfers are cranking 24/7 at many of the
major facilities to supply the content producers with an enormous
library of HD master videotapes for use by broadcasters and satellite
networks. The content providers are not sitting idly by while the HDTV
parade passes. They are not creating this vast catalog for nothing.
They know the inevitable future is High Definition and they are getting
prepared. The BIG question is: WHEN are we going to see this momentum
gather steam? It looks now to be later this year with Sony and
Mitsubishi's decisions to launch product with the 5C/Firewire copy
control protocols. This is what the content producers have been waiting
for before they flood the market with HD product. Their biggest concern
is to prevent the Napsterization of HD content, i.e., preventing someone
from capturing the HD content and streaming it out over the Internet
unchecked and uncompensated. They are not as concerned with home-taping
of HD programming (a la D-VHS recorders). The Supreme Court has spoken
on the issue of copyright fair use for personal recording of content for
private home viewing (The Betamax case). None of the content
producers/providers want to revisit that issue. So, all the parties
involved in copy protection concerns are resolving their final
differences and technical specifications and I suspect a full-scale push
on HDTV is just around the corner.
The other big motivator is the drop in retail pricing of HDTV
product. Prices will continue to fall this coming year as more set
production ramps up, and the pricing of HDTV receivers set-top boxes
fall as well. Look for the consumer electronics companies to enter
the retail cable box arena later this year with boxes equipped with both
CATV 256-QAM (for High Definition) demodulators as well as 8-VSB tuners
for over-the-air transmissions. Those boxes will also feature component
video outputs AND 1394/Firewire/5C connectors and protocols. These
companies will give the duopoly of Scientific Atlanta and General
Instrument/Motorola a run for the money. That competition alone will
drive prices for equipment down, down, down. Oh yeah, and I think the
cable companies will eventually get into the HDTV game, too, whether by
choice or by the force of Congress. All this saber-rattling is just
political posturing to extract a competitive footing with the
broadcasters. This will settle down in time. Cooler heads will
prevail, and all the financial interests will be satisfied accordingly.
No one ever said this digital transition would be a painless journey.
This is a BIG change for us all."
AVB ( 64.41.32.181 ) at 11:03 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
cables
kpd: You still have mail. Let me know asap.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.136 ) at 8:14 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
MC-1 question
AVB: Logic 7 creates a discrete type signal for all the speakers. It changes the mono sides in DPL to stereo sides.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 8:13 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
composite --> svideo
bouncey: I too have successfully created pronto macros to get to a specific input on my Tosh TP61G90. Same on my receiver, no direct inputs. So you can imagine what my 'change mode macros' look like!
AVB ( 64.41.32.153 ) at 8:13 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
JBC: You have mail.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.136 ) at 8:11 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
LexiPanel
JBC: Cool. Please send me a copy. As soon as I receive it I will down load my current settings. That way if the worst should happen when I receive a replacement or a repaired unit I will be ready to go.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 7:51 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
MC-1 Question
AVB: Although I do not run 7.1 due to space limitations, I believe that the answer is no. Perhaps Ron H or Tony C., who do run 7.1 can help you out.
AVB ( 64.41.32.153 ) at 7:29 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
MC-1 question
Can the rears be set to mono and the sides still be discrete?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:38 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Good morning!!!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:29 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
LexiPanel
Ron H, Tony C, Other Lexicon Owners: Well, it was a real pain in the ass doing the factory reset thing tonight. I have however restored (thank god for backups), installed and used a program created by Ray Gralak called LexiPanel which allows a user to save, restore and dynamically modify all DC-2 and MC-1 settings via the RS-232 port.
This means that the resets are easy... download the settings to your PC, reboot the DC-2/MC-1 and upload the settings from the PC. It also makes changing parameters easier as you do not have to nest through various levels.
Let me know if you want a copy and I will e-mail it. Note that Ray offered this for free to everyone a while back so I am not infringing on his intellectual property.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:14 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Ron H: Quick update on the Cinepro/Lexicon/M&K combination. The are so quiet and accurate that the only "distortion"/"noise" I hear is the whirring of my DVD/VCR. It is the damnest thing... I thought that I heard some hissing from my front speakers. Turns out that theywere dead quiet! The sound was from the DVD. My point -- if you want to mount speakers behind your screen you may want to consider a return to the M&Ks.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.28 ) at 12:04 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
composite --> svideo
bouncey: What JBC said is exactly how I control the video inputs on my Toshiba TW40H80. I have macros for DVD, TV, VCR, and SAT. Each one first changes the TV channel (TV ch. up) THEN fires the "video source" button the correct number of times to select the correct video input.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 12:02 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
"the entire sound rocked" = "the entire house rocked with the sound"
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 12:02 AM EST Thursday, April 5, 2001
Ron H: When it worked the entire sound rocked with the "Whoa Baby" that came out of my mouth.
To answer your question yes I did unplug the Lexicon when I connected the Cinepro. In fact I unplug everything, particulalry with my recent bad luck, whenever I am playing with wires.
I did read through the Lexicon manual which indicated that a power surge/spike could cause this sort of problem. My best guess is that the second Cinepro amp (i.e. the one I sent back) caused some weird power spikes given the multitude of problems it had. I never noticed the problem before becasue this was the first time I tried playing a dts DVD in the last 3 to 5 months. Does this make sense to you?
Good Movies: For those interested, I have recently watched both The Crew which is very funny and The Contender which is a good suspense flick. Either are worth the viewing time! Enjoy!!
Ron H ( 63.232.70.51 ) at 11:51 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
JBC:Glad it worked. Boy you have had a run of bad luck. A question: Did you unplug your Lex when you hooked up the latest Cinepro? It seems that I remember that sugestion from Lex when I called them about a problem I had way back.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:44 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Ron H: I did the factory reset and all is good. Now, re-entering all the effect parameters is going to be a task.
bouncey: The Pronto should be able eto be programmed to do what you need. For example, the video switching on most TVs without "direct access" can be achieved by entering a channel code, which puts the TV in the "TV source", and then pressing the "input" button n times to get to video "n".
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.96 ) at 11:42 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
composite --> svideo
bouncey: ok... first off, you need to get or make new component video cables Second, there ARE ways to get around that single-button source selection... You spend time at work looking up everything under the sun, why don't you look up how to get around the toshiba's input select? I know it's out there, I've seen it before, but I don't remember the exact URL. try www.remotecentral.com
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.68 ) at 11:39 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Joe; Sure, remove the only topic I had to post on. 
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.68 ) at 11:37 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
bouncey; "did any of that make sense?" Ummmm....just that last part about getting a new receiver. The answer to any HT problem is to upgrade! Damn the budgets, full upgrade ahead!
Seriously, the Pronto should be able to do what you need it to do. Maybe you can get the TV codes to work.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.96 ) at 11:33 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Chris L.: *lurk*
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 11:09 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
composite --> svideo
Actually... We're using native TV tuning for TV, s-video for DVD (component isn't working very well right now for unknown reasons), composite for VCR, and composite for LD. The big problem with my otherwise nice Toshiba 32" TV is that it doesn't have discrete codes for power or input selection. And it's not responding to my Pronto (except for the power button), in spite of the fact that Scott programmed all the buttons himself from the original Tosh remote recently.
So what I was thinking: Convert VCR and LD to s-video, which means I can let the receiver switch video. Except the TV itself is doing the CATV tuning, so I'd still have to fudge around the single-code TV source button. And I'd have to get up and flip a switch on my Rotel DTS decoder when watching a laserdisc, keeping audio the same (unless it's DTS) while changing video source for receiver. It's a mess. Maybe I should just ebay it all and get a new receiver. Which I can't afford right now.
Did any of that make any sense?
CuRTis ( 64.170.153.59 ) at 10:44 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
AIM
Thanks guys. I just confirmed what AVB said. Cut & paste from AIM is exactly the same as any other app, including the ability to easily edit anything you want. The only way to know exactly what was said is for AOL to furnish it themselves.
Joe ( 152.163.204.57 ) at 10:18 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Anyone use AOL Instant Messenger?
CuRTis: I have IM, but hardly use it. If someone else on here has it we can give it a try. I am sure it can be cut and pasted without to much problem
AVB ( 64.41.33.249 ) at 10:14 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Anyone use AOL Instant Messenger?
CuRTis: In general, almost any text can be cut and pasted in windows. I don't see how IM would be any different.
CuRTis ( 64.170.153.59 ) at 9:35 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Anyone use AOL Instant Messenger?
My son may be in trouble with his school over something others are saying he wrote in an AOL IM, but he swears he never said. I don't use AOL at all but need the help of someone who does to find out what happened.
Could one of you AOLers please try to copy an IM session into a word processor or anything - then see if you can edit the text? I'm guessing that this is possible since it's just plain text, but I can't prove that.
This is really important since a big decision is going to be made based upon a 3rd partys cut & pasted document. Somebody's not telling the truth and I hope it's not my son. Pls email me at seenhear@pacbell.net if you can help out.
TIA and sorry for the off topic.
Gar ( 169.207.193.213 ) at 9:35 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Ron H: Ironically there is a guy at one of the local Hi-Fi stores that has a demo at the same price. I also heard the new Prodigys.... I have always liked MLs but, I find them to be lacking in the Dynamic end of things on certain music. I had a pair of SL3s for 2 years and do miss them.. Although the new Prodigys are one up there as fars as one of the best speakers I have heard in awhile.
Ron H ( 63.26.185.196 ) at 8:59 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
semmed=seemed
Ron H ( 63.26.185.196 ) at 8:59 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Derb: I also had a chance to demo the new ML center. Very very nice. It puts out a sound that reaches all the way between the front speakers. It is hard to discribe how it sounds, but you could shut off the front R/L's and the sound still semmed to spread the width of the screen. Quite unique.
Ron H ( 63.26.185.196 ) at 8:54 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Derb: What are you using for rears. I spotted a pair of Scropts that were demo's marked down to $1700.
The Requests at $3500 is still temptimg but boy do they take up some realestate. There is no way I would be able to put the SL3s on the side so if I purchased the Requests I would need to sell the SL3s. If I just had a 5.1 system I suppose I could find a way to make the SL3's work in the rear, but with 7.1 the sides are more important and I just can not fit them in.
Are the Requests designed for a room larger than mine? Do you think they would work well in my system? If the answer is yes are you interested in upgrading to a set of SL3's for the rear and I will take your current sides in trade?
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 7:55 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Ron
RickMTB:I made a quick trip to Tweeter and the Home Theater store today. Not much of interest. The one thing that was quite noticable is that the price of HDTVs is coming down.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 7:53 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Mirage
Joe: I just got my issue in the mail today. I will give it a read.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 7:52 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Ron
Joe: I was out today and did not see them. Maybe they are not at the retailrs yet. I will keep my eyes open.
Joe ( 205.188.200.202 ) at 7:52 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Mirage
Ron H: I tried scanning it, but it just did not come out good. I can tell you it was $6500 for the system as tested.
Joe ( 205.188.200.202 ) at 7:50 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Big AL
Since you are the only other one watching the Eco Chanallenge I would ask a small favor. Tonight I must tape it and cannot watch it until Thursday. I would really like to be surprised at the end, so please don't give away the ending.
I am waiting to see the bunny team on the Rappel
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 7:50 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
JBC: I will be out of the office untill Monday. I will get you a fax number to you in the next few days.
BC ( 63.26.230.132 ) at 7:40 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Darian: oh, guess i should have read the whole thing.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.82 ) at 7:09 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Ron
Joe: (and Ron) The Def Tech dealer in Houston is Home Theater store...
Joe ( 205.188.199.186 ) at 6:48 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Ron
I was just sitting around reading SGHT. They have the report from the CES. I see Definative Tech has a new line of speakers out. They have built in power amps. They are called the Power Monitor series.
Since you live in the big city (that has speaker choices) and you are out checking out speakers, why not let me know what you think.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 6:41 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Speaking of selling things....if there are any admins lurking, any chance of getting the "For Sale" page back up? I have a few goodies up for grabs in the next couple of weeks.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:20 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
BC: That Sanyo is a 16:9 LCD that will farm pannels from the Sony 10HT.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 5:17 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Gasgeek: Okay, we are on the same page.
I'm not sure what they go for. They are not readily available anymore, like when I bought mine from spidergear.
I've seen a few on e-bay. When I saw the prices, they were about $125, I did not follow to the end, so I don't know what they eventually sold at.
I'd think they are some-what in demand due to its build-in RF-demod for LD. But then, there is probably a limited audience for it. DD receivers are so cheap these days.
I think they were 600 new.
As far as what I'd pay for a used one: I have a big question mark in mind. Certainly something like $125, I think: 'reasonable.' If I try to wrap my mind around something like $200, I think: 'screw it, I'll stay without DD until I can afford an upgrade.'
anyway, let me know...
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 5:07 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Ron H: I have the article on the Mirage speakers ready to fax to you but I need a fax number. Please advise!!!
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 4:57 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
JJ: You are correct upon checking it is an AVD-2000.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 4:50 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
JJ: It's the Dolby Digital processor that I talked you into getting originally if I remember right. I was guessing at the AVP thang thinking that it stood for Audio Video Processor like my 8000, but as you know, I've been wrong before.
I'll give him a call tonight and see what he wants for it. In all reality, what's a fair price for one of these? Anybody know?
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 4:37 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
s/b AVD-2000
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 4:37 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Gasgeek: Sure, see what he wants for it. thats AV-2000 right?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 4:34 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Custom builder?
This isn't spam... I seriously don't understand what all this web site is about. Seems that you can contact them and they will clone you from a number of different vendors including Vandersteen. One of the participants used to partner with Jeff Josephs. Anyway:
http://www.customspeakersonline.com/index.html
Ron H ( 63.232.68.5 ) at 3:29 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
RickMTB: Sounds good to me. I will be leaving around the 26th of April for Florida for about 10 days so maybe early May we can do something.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.5 ) at 3:25 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
AVB: LOL oooops. Make that a Sunfire Cinema Grand.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.5 ) at 3:23 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Kieran: They use a spinning wheel with color filters to achieve the colors with a single panel DLP{.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 3:20 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
Ron H: I didn't know it adds a driver... I could see it adding some weight of sound as a result (I would have guessed they simply improved the sound by changing crossovers and improving internal wiring). You are right though... $2k for a center channel! Thats more than the ML center, right?
I wish I could go with you this Saturday, but I have two things already conflicting for my time. I got roped into a church golf tournament at Texas National, plus I am trying to get in some mileage in preparation of the upcoming MS150 on April 21-22. After April 22 I should have a lot more time on weekends so lets think about getting together after that.
Joe ( 205.188.195.53 ) at 3:02 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Speaking of Beer, it's time for a bevarage and some staining.
Joe ( 205.188.195.53 ) at 3:01 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
AVB: Thats 1000 "Carver Watts" it's like lite beer:>
Joe ( 205.188.195.53 ) at 3:00 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Afternoon all,
Exciting stuff here, our bedroom stuff is in. They are going to delivear Friday. After sleeping on a mattress on the floor since last July, this should be a change. I'll probabley roll over fall out of bed and break my leg.
On another note( can't remember if I posted this) my dog has taken a liking to the theater room. He now gets up from the living room and disappears. I go looking and find him stretched out in the theater room.
I also found double(60") 6 panel solid pine french doors for $255. I think they are going between the theater and the puter room. I just have to show my wife.
AVB ( 64.41.32.210 ) at 2:45 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
kpd: You have mail.
RonH: Sunfire Cinepro? What is that, a 1000 wpc amp that weighs only 40lbs?
Chris L. ( 152.163.201.81 ) at 2:42 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Gasgeek: No problem at all. Like I said, it may be awhile before I start selling off my stuff so I won't mind if JJ wants to buy sooner.
Speaking of selling stuff, I think I might sell my Jamo bipoles seeing as I just replaced them with (GASP!!) directs. OOOOrrrr....I might keep them in case I go 7.1
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:24 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Kieran, Scott an Ron: Thanks for the info. As I said, I don't pay much attention to the Video side. Probably should. I just knew that I had seen 16 x 9 pictures on two DLPs. Ya know, while they do leave a little to be desired, they "Ain't That Bad." But I again repeat. I'm not a videophile as such and don't know much about it. Wish I did. I lean to the audio side of things.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:21 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Chris L, JJ: Need to read better. Not trying to horn in on you Chris. It looks like you have a 2000 for JJ. I was just trying to help. If anyone is interested in the 2000 let me know.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:19 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Gasgeek: Hey Gasgeek! I'm doing very well, thanks. Ron and Scott basically answered your question: The DLP chips in currently available FP's are usually 1024x768 (i.e. 4:3) chips. They can display a 16x9 image, but as Ron said, it leaves something to be desired. When they start making high quality FP's with a 16x9 DLP chip (namely 1280x720), DLP will REALLY take off, imho. The ultimate would be a DLP FP with THREE 1280x720 DLP chips (one for each color, R,G,B). Currently most sets use a one chip solution. NOt sure how they achieve the full color pallet, with one chip. Multiple filters on the bulb, I think.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:18 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
JJ: A friend of mine has a Denon AVP2000 just gathering dust since I replaced his DD ready receiver a few months ago. He used the 2000 for about two years and it was working flawlessly when I replaced it. If you are interested, I'll get you a price.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.5 ) at 2:06 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Earthquake Cinenova
Craig: I can not speak for the amp but I can say I demoed one of their small HT speaker setups in my family room for about 6 months and was quite impresses with the bang for the buck. A friend just bought it and also loves it.
I do have a Sunfire Cinepro that I am selling for $1500. It will be sold as demo so it will have a full warrantee.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.107 ) at 2:05 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Darian: There are 1280 by 720 DLP FP's in the works, but not out til later this year. I did read about one, but forgot the brand that does 1024 by 768 and has an anamorphic lens option. But I'm with you... I'd like DLP, but I want native 16 by 9.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.107 ) at 2:03 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
composite --> svideo
Kieran: Yeah, but he's got a Pronto too, and he's using component for DVD... with a little bit of research and some programming (both of which he's certainly capable of, because I know him)... he can set his Pronto up to choose composite for everything but DVD, and component for DVD.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.5 ) at 2:00 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
RickMTB: After listening for a bit I thought the VCC seemed a little on the bright side. As I said earlier I plan to bring some of my own discs to check it out.
Onne nice thing about the Vandys is that you aqre not paying for a fancy wood cabinet.
Their new center the VCc-5 has a frequency respose of 50Hz to 30kHz + or – 2dB. It adds two more 6 1/2 inch woofers making it a three way design which to my thinking matches the 2Ce Signiture better as far as design goes.
But at $2K..................Yikes
I may pay them a visit on Saturday what is your schedule?
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 1:55 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Chris L.: Cool. The 2000 is currently collecting dust. I'm pretty sure the probelm is with it, and not something else. Still puzzling why the repair shop found nothing wrong. I'm thinking of sending it to one of the 'Denon Supercenters', but haven't pursued yet. I'm thinking of getting a new receiver, but I don't want to loose connectivity and features. This means spending more than I want to right now. Then there is the WAF factor, since there's nothing really 'wrong' with my current receiver.
Oh well. Keep us posted.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.5 ) at 1:46 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Gasgeek:The current FP DLPs are not native 16:9. This means with the pixal drop showing a 16:9 picture the image leaves something to be desired. HD is a real disapointment.
Ron H ( 63.232.68.5 ) at 1:41 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Darian:Yopur thoughts are the exact reason I changed from a DLP to the Sony. I do think the DLP tech has great potential and promise.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 1:33 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Darian: There is a thread on AVS about a sanyo 16:9 dlp coming out soon.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 1:32 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
RickMTB: You forget than our friend Ron H is running 7.1 meaning that he would need seven of those puppies surrounding him!!!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 1:24 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
Ron H: Gee, I know the room with the 2cs at Audio Conceptswas a little small, but the VCC seemed to do a good job in that room. how was the signature model different than the VCC to create a "larger" sound? Seems to me the Vandersteen design philsophy for both rears and center (smaller, off-axis) makes sense and sounds pretty good (though I have to admit the thought of three 2cs up front is an interesting idea... heck, how about five of those puppies surrounding you!).
Chris L. ( 64.12.104.51 ) at 1:20 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
JJ: You got it. I hadn't planned on selling as a package anyway. I've been meaning to ask you how things are going with your 2000. Did you determine that your Denon was bad or was it something else?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 12:06 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Kieran: Good Morning Norther California Dude and Former Southern California Dude! How are ya? Hey, I'm certainly no video expert, actually very weak in the video knowledge and I may be missing something here, but I've seen a few DLP FP's and the ones I've seen do 16 x 9. I know for sure the Marantz 8100 does 16 x 9 and does HD. Brian sold one of the high end DLPs that was being discussed here the other day, (I believe it was the Runco) and it was set up for a brief test before install and it did 16 x 9.
Am I missing something or just misunderstanding as usual?
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:05 PM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Gar; The Sony news is just a small blurb within the "Mitsubushi Firewire" article. It just mentions that Sony will also be offering......
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 11:55 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Darian: Sorry for my joke response earlier... The subject of a 16x9 DLP FP came up several days ago... I don't believe there is one available on the market yet. There is a RPTV w/ 16x9 DPL chip, but no FP yet (that I know of).
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 10:54 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Earthquake Cinenova
Craig: Call the folks at ATI. They are convinced that these amps are knockoffs of their 1505, 1506 and 2505 are atr one point were considering suing them.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:43 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Earthquake Cinenova
Craig: Never heard it myself. It followed the same route as many other companies. Got a bunch of reviews at one point. Got lots of sales as the reviews gushed over it. Then the gleam fades and you don't hear much about them...
I saw the Subwoofers that Earthquake made. It was at a little store that never got up and running. The demo room was CINDERBLOCK! Needless to say the sub sounded pretty bad an one noted. How much of this was the sub? Who cares. The units had lots of breakdowns. The Earthquake rep gave up on them quick. Then the store dropped them too. Later the store folded.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:39 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Well Guys! I havn't received much help in my projector hunt! If there were a 16:9 DLP based unit with the connections of a 10HT. That would be sweet! Insted I have to find a close fit 1024x768 4:3 pannel. Then a anomorphic lense. Then I have to get around the sync with 480P vs 1080i. Uggg.
JJ ( 209.208.201.132 ) at 10:37 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Chris L: First dibs on the denon? Or are you going to try to sell it with the chiro as a set?
Craig ( 63.254.190.141 ) at 10:36 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Earthquake Cinenova
Has anyone heard this amp ? If so, i'd like your impressions. The reviews I've seen are great.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.210 ) at 10:21 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
I am off the rest of the week and am now heading to a few HT stores for a little info gathering expedition.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 9:51 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
Ron H: I didn't know they had a new Center, $2k is is almost the cost of another set of 2c's. I'll have to go back and see if I can check it out.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.210 ) at 9:39 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
mic: I agree with you on the VCC-1 center. For those who are more demanding they do have the VCC- 5 Reference Center.This is what a center speaker should be to go with the rest of the line. It is a bit pricey at around $2000.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 8:11 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
cont - If your plan is to put all the front speakers behind a screen, then you could go for 3 of a kind up front, 3 2C Sig's would be pretty awsome.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 8:05 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Vandersteen model 2C Signature
Ron H: Did you get to listen to the Vandersteen center channel, as much as I like the mains, the center was a turn off, it was ok for prologic but too small for DD/DTS
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 8:02 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Pre\Pro
Wild Bill: The 565 does not have the lastest upgrade EX/EZ/PLII, it can't be upgraded via the 232 port, it needs an eprom chip. Meridian has not said it will do it yet.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 7:26 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
good morning JBC. How's the recovery coming?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:57 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Good morning everyone...
AVB ( 64.41.32.150 ) at 6:34 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
1k2SE
JBC: One is a MKII and the other a MKIII.
Kieran ( 207.214.121.2 ) at 2:42 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
composite --> svideo
bouncey: Get on ebay and look for an external comb filter. I have on on loan from Curtis that does a great job... it's an Audio Alchemy VRE (Visual Reality Engine) very pricey in their day, but not too bad if you can find them on ebay. (I think I saw one for under or around $100). Pretty darn good comb filter, too.
Popcorn: You're right, the Tosh probably does have a better comb filter, but if all your sources are s-video, then you NEVER have to switch the source input on the TV. (same as if all your sources are composite though, too.)
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:27 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
Good night all...
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 12:31 AM EST Wednesday, April 4, 2001
JT: Thanks. I will as soon as I finish work. What a bitching week, it feels like Friday and my knee is throbing!!
AVB I am having trouble accessing e-Bay. Is it a MKI or MKII?
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 11:59 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Audio Video Senders
JBC: Take a look at www.x10.com They have audio/video senders for a reasonable price. I used them in my last house to transmit the audio and video from a DSS receiver to a room without DSS wiring. The sender/receiver in conjunction with a DSS receiver with a RF remote worked like a charm. Let me know if you have any questions.
AVB ( 64.41.32.150 ) at 11:56 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Amp PSA
There are 2 Cinepro 1K2SE models on ebay. $2800 list, unknown reserve.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.178 ) at 10:57 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
BIG AL: Hey, if Calvin Klein can do it, so can Be.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.178 ) at 10:54 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
composite --> svideo
bouncey: Umm... why do you want to convert VCR AND LD? That's kinda ridiculous. Just use the composite switching in your AVR-2700... You won't be gaining ANYTHING by using inline converters... your Toshiba TV's comb filter is much better than an inline would be.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.247 ) at 10:50 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Scott pop; They just need a new name. Maybe something like "BIGHARD", or "ULTRAWARE". Something more marketable than Be.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.178 ) at 10:46 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Bad Business Bodings for BE
cai: Yep, I heard about that already... With the way the stock market is going, it's not too good... But Be did sign an agreement with Sony recently... BeIA will be powering the new eVilla. Hopefully that will give Be the shot in the arm it needs... Considering the have the most stable platform, and BeIA is the best answer to any company wanting an OS for their internet appliance. I think the layoffs were just an early precautionary measure... They have been stating for a long time that after second quarter 2001 they will be tapped out on cash if they don't have any new profit.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.247 ) at 10:45 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Gar; The mag has a site, but I couldn't find the article. Lots of good reading though. www.twice.com
JohnO ( 128.190.9.32 ) at 10:40 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
SALE
cai: Audio Buys is currently on my s$%t list. They were the ones who installed a 5bnc cable for some close friends of mine for a projector. The first time they install the cable and terminate only one end, not the end in the ceiling. The second time they terminate the ceiling end. When we go to install, we waste 1.5 to 2 hours troubleshooting with various pieces of equipment to determine that the projector is really OK and survived the trip, the DVD player is OK, the line doubler is working and configured right but not ONE of the FIVE strands of bnc cable is working!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.247 ) at 10:34 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Gar; Sorry, somehow I missed your post today. No link I know of. I read it in a trade mag. It's a step forward, but not really anything to hook up to the firewire that I know of. HD-wise that is.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.211 ) at 10:30 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Eco update
BIG AL: ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.247 ) at 10:27 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Robert; Now if the other manufacturers would follow Thompson's lead, and drop prices, we'll all have HDTV!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.247 ) at 10:24 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Eco update
One of the racers sits in the river to cool off. He feels a bite on the end of his "willy", and when he looks, he sees a leech disapear into the end. He calls the doc, and the doc tells him not to worry. Leeches have a tendency to fill up on blood, and then release. Just pee a lot and he'll come out. Don't worry, you won't bleed to death. WHAT!!!! These doctors live in a different world! The guy isn't worrying about bleeding to death! He's worrying that the bite will become infected, he'll develop gangrene, and will have to get his willy amputated! A guy can deal with death, but life without willy??!!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.247 ) at 10:18 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Darian; The eagle has landed! Haven't had time to unpack yet, but thanks in advance!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.247 ) at 10:17 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
bouncey; www.dbldistributing.com has an inline passive converter. # csvc-1
for a little over $100. Not exactly cheap, but easy. Hard to find both.
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 9:51 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
composite --> svideo
STUPID QUESTION TIME!!!
How cheap/easy is it to convert composite video to s-video? Preferably using something that doesn't have a huge wall wart for power. I'd like to do that to both my laserdisc player and my vcr, to simplify connections to the TV.
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 9:48 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
much shorter forum reload time :)
Looks like the preferences thing might be working. Yippee.
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.63 ) at 9:33 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Ron H: The Vandersteens are very listenable for music and surprisingly good HT speakers. As far back as the eighties the Vandersteen 2s continually got raves from the critics, including John Aktinson and Sam Tellig of Stereophile (Tellig, the Audio Cheapskate, really raved about the steen spaired with Forte amps and Quicksilvers (for you tubeheads out there). If you are interested I can dig out the reviews, but Vandersteen;s web site (www.vandersteen.com) has most of them.
I was really impressed with the Vandersteen 3s that were in the room with the Maggies and the Revels... so much so I would have happily settled for them versus the Robbie the Robot Revels. And over the more expensive 5s in the other room.
I hope to get up the gumption to box my old Vandersteen 2s and send them back to Hanford CA (home of Vandersteen) to be repaired (I suspect the surrounds may be dried out, perhaps worse). Maybe they will look at them and either upgrade them to the new metal tweeter or give me some awesome deal to replace them with the current models.
Again, there are better sounding speakers out there, but the Vandersteen's have been pleasing people for a long, long time. Something good must be coming out of that sock-wrapped box...
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.240 ) at 9:16 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
New gig
AVB: Best wishes getting the 11 mile commute job. You'll probably feel like someone gave you an extra hour or two a day.
Ron H ( 63.26.184.133 ) at 8:44 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Derb:No more stinking Cowputers. Replaced this week with Compaqs. LOL
Derb ( 199.174.5.150 ) at 8:33 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Ron H: Leave your cats alone, and stop connecting them to your cowputer.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.239 ) at 8:21 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Derb: Yuck.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.239 ) at 8:21 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
There Is Joy In Houston
R and R for Ron the rest of the week.
HT time in Houston.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.239 ) at 8:20 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
DVD Profiler
All.: I have the Cat connected. Is there a special program to download for it. Am I corect I do not install the Radio Shack software? At this time when I scan the UPC I get bogus numbers.
R and R for Ron the rest of this week. HT time in Houston.
Derb ( 199.174.5.150 ) at 8:12 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Chris L.: Thumb Meat, well I would get a french roll and a little mustard.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:07 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Derb: LOL! What do you think I could get for some thumb meat?
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.26 ) at 8:05 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
cai: The Outlaw receiver is below his budget and I believe the Outlaw pre/pro is still vaporware.
Derb ( 199.174.5.150 ) at 7:41 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Chris L.: If you got a little better with your carving skills, you could serve up your Kidney. 20,000 grand on the black market and bamm; new Meridian pre-pro
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:35 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Darian: I sort of like them... but I don't really care for tomatos, so I usually make them with cheese instead of tomato. So the sandwich really becomes a BLC, not a BLT.
...Oh! you said DLP!!! Sorry, my hearing must be going or something...
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 7:19 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Anyone like an DLPs out there?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:09 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
cai: Don't know of anybody who's been raving about the Outlaw pre/pro... seeing as how it isn't available yet! Plus, the receiver doesn't have bass management on the back surround speaker(s) (they're always large). One tiny little flaw that bugs me a lot, since the 6.1 capability was a big selling point for it.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 7:04 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
SALE
To The No.Va Gang:Audio Buys is having a moving sale until April 30th.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 6:55 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Bad Business Bodings for BE
Scott Pop: I think that it is you POP who is always ranting about BE. Well, read on:
"On Tuesday, the operating-system maker slashed 27 jobs and watched its stock plunge 33 percent to close at 81 cents. The layoffs could amount to as much as 25 percent of Be's work force, although the company wouldn't specify. Most of the cuts are in sales and marketing but also among the company's engineering staff. Be will also close its European office in Paris and consolidate its European marketing efforts with its U.S. operations.
Analysts say the news could mean that Be is fighting for its life."
Ron H ( 63.26.163.61 ) at 6:54 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
cai: I did not know that the Outlaw Pre/
Pro was released yet.??
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.178 ) at 6:52 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
BAGMAN: BAGGMAN? I'm losing it.
Did you ever have it?
Ron H ( 63.26.163.61 ) at 6:51 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
RickMTB:I went to Audio Concepts today. I spent some time listening to some speakers. I was impressed with a set up of just the VSM's used for R/Ls. It was amazing what these small speakers can do.
After listening to some others amoung them the Linns we moved on to a larger set of Vandys. I spent some time listening to CD's and HT with these speakers. These seem to offer some of the openess and detail of the ML's with out as much placement concerns and less beaming.
I really felll inlove with thse speakers. I am going back with some of my own material later this week or this weekend. The speakers I loved were the Vandersteen model 2C Signature. Also the price with the stands was quite reasonable for the performance.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 6:50 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Chris L.: I do not know why no one has mentioned the Outlaw receiver or pre/pro, everyone raves about them.
BAGMAN ( 205.245.16.98 ) at 6:05 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
BAGGMAN? I'm losing it.
BAGGMAN ( 205.245.16.98 ) at 5:31 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Nuts,never sure how that happens.
BAGGMAN ( 205.245.16.98 ) at 5:30 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Afternoon All, Slow day. We have our first overnight guests, one of them is my wife's nephew,he brought three dvds that I haven't seen. Kinda cool.
BAGGMAN ( 205.245.16.98 ) at 5:29 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Afternoon All, Slow day. We have our first overnight guests, one of them is my wife's nephew,he brought three dvds that I haven't seen. Kinda cool.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 5:27 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Pre\Pro
Wild Bill: I may be able to go a little higher...won't know until I get my raise and the retro pay back to Jan 1st. I'm not really having any problems with the Chiro, just thought it might be getting time to upgrade and make some space in the rack.
Space in the rack.......yeah right.
Joe ( 205.188.199.27 ) at 3:29 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
They are playing Manford Manns Earth Band on the radio. It will be intersting to see if they get airplay with Blow coming out. The music came back to me when I seen the advertisement for the movie.
The Roaring Silance, you guys remember that album....Standing in the corner watching the young girls dance
Joe ( 205.188.199.27 ) at 3:26 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Microsoft Project
cai: Thanks I will use some of that during conversation. I have 3 other places to go in the morning. Two of which are Circuit Board manufacturers. I also got a E-Mail today about a Production Manager postion.
My nieces boyfriend works for Johnsons Controls. She was jsut telling me they cut a entire shift out. I have a feeling things might get worse before they get better.
Robert ( 63.11.58.101 ) at 3:21 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Got links?
BIG AL: Gee I wonder why the Fujitsu and Sony are at the same time?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:15 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Eco
BTW, anybody know what the "sabah" part of the name refers to?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:14 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Eco
Joe: Never mind found it at:
http://www.ecochallenge.com/sabahontv.html
Sounds like the broadcast on April 8 is the one to tape. (all 5 parts shown back-to-back.)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 2:09 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Eco
Joe: Who's showing the Eco Challenge coverage this year? USA? When (what time of day) is it on?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:28 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Microsoft Project
Joe: This is a project management software, as JohnO says, it creats Gantt charts, critical path charts (CPM), bar schedules, and other project management functions. It also can be configured to provide "work breakdown structures (WBS)", that you would then follow on the schedules. These schedules could contain design, engineering, construction, material delivery, labour units, and some manner of cost. This program is similar to what "Primavera" does, it is a competitor. I have never used either, but I am familiar with some of the outputs and their capabilities from project management courses.
It sets up milestones, personnel and material resources, calendars, are milestones connected, does one have occur after the other. Doe milestones share resources, do they occur sequentially. From this you create Gantt and CPM charts. You can make templates. This program is an open, object random fashion, you can write code to integrate into Outlook and Excel, Application Program Interface API. (I have typed this while my computer guy was on the telephone dictating.)
Look under :
http://www.microsoft.com/office/project/default.htm
I wish I could tell you more. If someone in my office has a manual I will try to cull some more information.
Joe ( 205.188.192.27 ) at 1:03 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Microsoft Project
JohnO: Thanks, I thought it was something like that. The postion is a Project Manager so it does go hand in hand.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 12:22 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Microsoft Project
Joe: Sorry, have installed it a few times. As I recall it just generates charts and timelines for projects, not something you need to study to use correctly.
Joe ( 64.12.101.184 ) at 12:13 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
It's like Digitial Cable. How can it be digitial? IT seems like the same old shitty cable to me.
Joe ( 64.12.101.184 ) at 12:13 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
It's like Digitial Cable. How can it be digitial? IT seems like the same old shitty cable to me.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:08 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Curtis; I'd have to travel for an hour or so just to see a HD display, and it probably wouldn't be set up right. Last one I saw was just showing regular DirecTV, in spite of the HUGE "DIGITAL TV" signs everywhere.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:06 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Joe; If USA channel crammed in any more commercials, you'd be watching highlights!
Gar ( 169.207.192.243 ) at 12:05 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
BIG AL: Great news do you have any links where one can find this info online? Thanks...... I but current Sony RP owners are going to be pissed, there current line of RP was supposed to have the firewire inputs.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 12:00 PM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Big news for today!! Fujitsu and Sony dropping retail prices on plasma screens by thousands$$$!! Thompson drops retail prices on all HDTVs in it's lineup!!! New Mitsubishi and Sony HDTVs to ship with firewire IEEE 1394 interface!!! Don't everybody rush to the store at once!
Joe ( 152.163.205.48 ) at 11:56 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Wow slow day around here.
Joe ( 152.163.205.48 ) at 11:53 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Microsoft Project
Do any of you use this software? I need a quick run down on it. I am back for another interview Thursday and this software was brought up in the first interview.
If I don't get this job, it might be Lowes for me. We are really taking a beating up here from this slowdown. So much is tied into the Automotive industry that when they slow down the whole area slows down.
Joe ( 205.188.198.47 ) at 9:53 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Eco
BIG AL: Yes we are. This is also our fourth year watching it. I did not care for the year they were in Morrocco. It seems to me to have more commercials this year. Rememebr last year the Erickson Sat phone?
Anyways I liked it better on Discovery Channel. I am hoping it gets better. I was also looking for the Finish team. They did real good last year until they made a navagation error near the end
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:09 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Gar: Farscape is always on Friday at 9:00 on Scifi. It is on my feed of DiSH Network anyway.
I Saw Dune at BlockBuster and shunned it for the Dolby 2.0 stamp on it.
I bought both Farscape DVDs at Suncoast. They are the most expensive game intown. When they first advertized the release of the DVDs, Suncoast logos were on the screen. Both times I have gone to Best Buy hoping they would have it. Both times I get a' "we ordered 1. Don't know when it will come in." Suncoast has about 20 when I get there and they cost $20.
AVB ( 64.41.32.137 ) at 7:44 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
trigger again
JBC: Not enough coffee, I missed your part B question. Without having something else in the power chain your prepro will turn on and off the trigger immediately. I use a Furman PS Pro so that when I turn it on it will turn on the pre-pro and then turn on the amps. For power off it turns off the amps first and then the pre-pro last.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.3 ) at 7:42 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Darian: We don't have the screen so I haven't messed with the projector yet. I will be spending today working out of the house. I should be in the store Wed., Thurday and Friday. I'm helping out with an install on one of those days but I don't know which day yet.
AVB ( 64.41.32.137 ) at 7:38 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
trigger
JBC: My unit goes completely off, no fan, no nothing. I believe that the idle power is listed in the manual so that wil tell you how much power you'll save. Without looking it up I'd want to say it's 40 watts.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:32 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Good morning gang.
AVB: Good luck with the new job -- an 11 mile commute is much better than a 55 mile commute given the big savings in both $$$ and time. Also thanks for the info on the trigger. Two follow ups:
a) How much power am I really saving with the trigger given that the latest and greatest versions leave the fan on when off in trigger mode (as communicated by Eric)?
b) How can I tell whether the trigger turns the amps off before the pre/pro? Do any Lexicon owners know this?
Also, keep us posted on The Rock!
WildBill: Good luck with the new job. It would be great to get paid to have fun! I am jealous.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.191 ) at 2:57 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
CuRTis: With the exception of your Eco Challenge post, I'd swear that you were ignoring Big Al and me...
Kieran ( 207.214.148.151 ) at 2:16 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
TV sports
CuRTis: As you know, that's my favorite part of the HD demo loop! Can't wait for them to launch Discovery HD.... It's been in "soon to be launched" mode for WAY too long.
Gar ( 169.207.193.75 ) at 12:44 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Darian: Big Fan of Farscape although they keep on changing the time when it is on here. I have the first DVD and it is excellent, where did you find the second one? Also just for kicks I picked up the new Dune version, the picture quality is top notch but the bastards did it in Dolby 2 channel, how lame..... But the Sony Pre/Pro does a great job of downmixing it.
CuRTis ( 64.169.188.106 ) at 12:31 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
TV sports
BIG AL: FYI, last years Eco Challenge in Argentina was shot in all HD by the soon to be launched Discovery HD channel. Check DirecTV channel 199 demo loop for a good taste. Pretty amazing footage.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:11 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
Also, just got Farscape's 2nd DVD. There is one chapter where one character is hitting the other character in the back. The thumps come through with an effect that makes you shudder! Farscape DVDs are great for LFE tests.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:09 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
I swear these Platinums are addictive! I have no idea what people are talking about with a buzzing or ringing beofre or after a signal. In my system the Clarks are mounted in the chairs. I spaned the springs under the seat with a piece of plywood and bolted the Clarks in. Now I don't know how I got by without them! I have the Clarks set up to work with my dual HSUs and the effect is not subtle! It like having bought 2 more HSUs. SciFi is just too cool with these things. Anythime you have space ships or something in the like it is a real interesting experiance. Even made Red Planet watchable. The scenes in orbit are referance quality.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:02 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
BIG AL:Darian; That's a foolish question! You know I'm married!
SPPPPTTTTTT hahahahahahahah
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.143 ) at 12:02 AM EST Tuesday, April 3, 2001
AVB: May the Rock be with you.
Seriously, it sounds like the perfect mate for your Ehome!
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.143 ) at 11:59 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Good luck AVB and Wild Bill(you bastard!).
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.143 ) at 11:59 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
BIG AL: I've seen it a few times in the past few years. Mostly the Dateline recap, instead of the Discovery Channel. Yikes!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:58 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Curtis; I don't watch too much sports, but I always like medium to wide shots. I don't care how many pimples the quarterback has. Sometimes I think the closeups are for the guys with 13" sets so they know it's not a PBS special about ants. The other day the wife and I were watching ballroom dancing, and the closeups were constant. All you saw were faces, and feet. Extremely annoying!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:52 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Wild Bill; Although from the sound of some of Darian's nightmare stories, it'll have it's bad side too.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:47 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Wild Bill; In case you're wondering, I didn't wish you luck on the new job, because I don't consider it a job. It sounds like too much fun!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:45 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Darian; OH! No package yet. My guess is wed.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:44 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Darian; That's a foolish question! You know I'm married!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:43 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Anybody watch Eco-challenge? I've watched this every year for last 4. Very entertaining! The lengths some people will go to win a race. Tonights fun, tramping through the Borneo jungle. Stopping every hour or so to pick off the couple dozen leaches hitching a ride. The little suckers saliva is an anti-coagulant, so the bites bleed for an hour or so. Combine that with 100% humidity, and a 3000 ft increase in altitude, makes for a fun 8 hr hike. The bike section was nice too. Paths hacked through the jungle with machetes. They had to carry the bikes a third of the way. Oh yeah, 2 guys were airlifted out of the bike section. One nosedived over the handlebars, and augered his head into the ground. Cracked skull, and a concussion. The other guy was impaled in the chest, by a nice, machete sharpened, 2" thick branch. His chest cavity filled with blood, and his lung collapsed. THAT'S what I call mountain biking!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:38 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
BigAl: Any joy at the homefront?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:32 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
JBC; Radio Shack has a signal sender that hooks up to the phone lines. Sends audio/video in one direction, and the remote signal back to the origin. Runs on a different freq than the phone, so it doesn't interfere, $150. They also have a 2.4 GHz wireless that sends aud/vid only for $100. There is also the Wavecom. I think www.smarthome.com has them.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:28 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Curtis; As usual, you're forgetting me.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.61 ) at 11:27 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
AVB; Good luck towards getting the new job.
AVB ( 64.41.32.137 ) at 11:06 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Rock demo
I went and saw a Rock video processor tonight. For 2 1/2 hours I compared it to my Crystal Image on 5th Element, Gladiator, Chicken Run and Toy Story 2. Needless to say it was impressive. In scenes that I had slight combing the Rock did not. There was a greater depth of detail and 3D in every DVD demoed. I don't know if it was $2,000 better then the CI but I have 27 days to ponder that before the price jumps up to $4,400. (you were right Wild Bill)
On top of that I interviewed for a new job. Only an 11 mile commute one way instead of 55. They want me to come in again at the end of the week so that is a good sign.
AVB ( 64.41.32.137 ) at 10:57 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Dumb Question of the Day
JBC: Glad to know I'm still wanted. I also get a thump at turn off but not too bad. Actually it is more like a loud tick most of the time but a bass thump once in a while. It won't hurt your speakers.
BTW, you should turn your amps off before you turn off the pre-pro.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:40 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Wild Bill: Did you find the math formula for Gain settings on setting 2 yet? I noticed you didn't respond to my ealrier post. What day will you be in the shop? I have a good amount of open time tomorrow and would like to come by JS and see how its going!
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.229 ) at 10:23 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Pre\Pro
Chris L.: Can you go a little higher? I know of a place where you can get a new in the box Meridian 565 that does every surround format including DPLII for $2295. They retailed for $5K. They have been replaced but hey, they do everything and do it well.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.229 ) at 10:20 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
JBC: Sorry, I forgot to answer the toys part. My B&W speakers do seem to pale in comparison to some of the speakers I listen to at work. At some point I will probably upgrade speakers. There's no rush though.
I do get to bring things home to play with. I'll have the Pronto TS2000 later this week to play with and I will also get a color Pronto to play with for awhile when it comes out.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.229 ) at 10:16 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
JBC: I don't think I'll lose interest in the hobby. The problem is that video-wise I am ready to be in the field day in day out earning a premium wage. The reality is that I have to learn the audio side inside out before I can spend more time in the field. So, I have to learn the all the gear inside out AND how the programming and setup of the gear occurs. In addition to Meridian we sell the preamps for the other brands. I want to accelerate my learning curve but it takes time. I do get to install a Meridian 861 this week with another one of the guys. He's the most knowledgeable in the store IMHO. He knows the technical aspect insde-out and he WANTS me in the field because the guys doing the installs right now are not the fastest or most motivated guys around. The also don't understand exceptional customer service and how to stroke people. A large percentage of our clientelle is composed of multi-millionaires so tact and courtesy is premium. Believe it or not, I do have a tremendous amount of tact and courtesy when dealing with clients.
I should be spending 50% of my time in the field within 30-45 days and by August I should be running the install side of the business. Those are my goals.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:39 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Pre/Pro
Chris L: For US$1,500 I would also say the Sony TA-E9000ES. The only other option I would consider would be a used Lexicon DC-1 with Version 4 software.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.134 ) at 9:34 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Pre\Pro
Chris L.: Sounds like a sharp knife. Sorry to hear about it. Remind me not to tell you about my Dad's table saw experience.
My obvious answer is the Sony TA-E9000ES pre/pro. It seems to perform everything AVB, Gar, RGB, Duane and I (who am I forgetting?) ask of it and the price is a steal. Firmware upgrades are free or cheap via serial interface, so it never has to leave your rack. It also includes RF and phone inputs. At least put it on your short list.
Has anyone even heard of a failure on this pre/pro?
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 9:33 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Pre\Pro
Gar: Thanks Gar! I'll look into the Sony...although I like the looks of the Lex. Maybe I can sel;l off the Chiro even though Kinergetics is no longer in bu8siness.
Gar ( 169.207.193.174 ) at 9:28 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Pre\Pro
Chris L.: The Chiro is a excellent Analog Pre/Pro. First Pre/Pro that I
ever owned. You might want to check out the Sony 9000ES Pre/Pro it is upgradable or a Lexicon MC-1.. Anthem makes a new one with component switching and balanced inputs and outputs. Personally anything under 3 Grand new, I would have to say the Sony.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 9:22 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Pre\Pro
Can anyone recommend a decent pre\pro under $1500? The ol' Chiro is a bit datedd an I'm looking for something better.
BTW...excuse any typos. I was oiling the wooden handle on my chef's kniife and the blade slippped cutting my thunmb from the base to the bottom of the nail...deep too. Lots of blood, thought the roomy was gonna lose it.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 9:08 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Modulators
AVB & Darian:Thank you for your answers. The site that AVB directed me to details why the Dish and DirectTV multiswitches are not compatible. It has to do with the way a signal is sent to change the plus and the minus signals from the LNBs. The DTV ones generate a 22KHz signal and the Dish do it with a voltage signal.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:05 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
WildBill: Your gig sounds a dream job with a twist... how can possibly enjoy the toys at home compared to the toys in the field.
Also, do you find the hobby looses interest as it becomes a "job".
Ron H ( 63.232.94.117 ) at 9:03 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
NCAA final on CBS HD in 10 minutes
CuRTis:I have not checked out the basketball yet but I will say that they were too quick to go to a close up with the HD football games. They needed to hold back a little longer so you could watch the play develop.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:03 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Joe, CuRTis: What is the name and manufacturer of that product used for wireless transmission of audio/video (or better yet, what is the URL)? Was it Wavecom? I need to get one now as the wife is puching hard!
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.229 ) at 9:00 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H: LOL!! Hey, they want the 10HT installed. Any settings that you think are pertinent. I'll be using a Levinson DVD player as a source.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.117 ) at 9:00 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
DVD Profiler
JBC: Thanks
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.134 ) at 8:58 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
NCAA final on CBS HD in 10 minutes
Am I the only one watching this stuff? They are laying off of the extreme closeups in favor of half court coverage that really allows you to see all of the players at once. How many televised games of any sort have had penalties/ fouls called "away from the ball" that no camera was on?
The downside is that you need to concentrate to follow the action. People who attend their 1st college or pro football game are often fooled as to where the play is.
So my ? is this: Do you prefer tight or wide shots for sports? The lone exception is for cheerleaders of course. Pls describew the screen size & aspect ratio you're watching.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:50 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
DVD Profiler
Ron H: A list of DVDs can be typed using Tools | Reports from the menu bar!
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.134 ) at 7:48 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
16x9 size chart
Robert: I have to agree that Merson is a snobby jerk. He perpetuates the myth that you have to be wealthy to get into this hobby at all and god forbid that an owner would want to do any adjustments on their own.
On the other hand his writings are worth every cent of what I pay for them (non-mags)
Ron H ( 63.232.67.25 ) at 7:22 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
how
Ron H ( 63.232.67.25 ) at 7:22 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Does any one know hown to print your DVD list from DVD Profiler?
Ron H ( 63.232.67.25 ) at 7:16 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
JBC: I get athup from the sides and rear at turn on. No thummp at turn off.
David ( 209.214.21.139 ) at 6:48 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Another David!
Robert: I wish I could say yes to either parts of your post... We moved to Atlanta, but still with HP. Still with Pioneer?
Robert ( 63.11.62.251 ) at 6:46 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Another David!
David: Hey David,,you ever move back to Florida,,or HP just paying you too much to leave?!
Robert ( 63.11.62.251 ) at 6:45 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
16x9 size chart
Scott "popcorn": For once we agree,,I can't stand the guy,,,besides, what does it really matter what size 4:3 image you get,,,,I wanted a large 16:9 screen in my house,,,the 58" was the largest I could get downstairs,so what if I have X amount for a 4:3 image,,I hated watching movies on my 27",,,,,he should do the opposite and put up a chart together showing how much 2.35 you get on a 27"
David ( 209.214.21.139 ) at 6:41 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Another David!
Doh! I drop off for a couple of months, and you guys let someone else use my name! Thanks, Cytotech for sticking up for me... and WELCOME to David T.!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:20 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Ron H: Also my experience is the exact opposite of your... thumping on turn off, and no thumping on turn on.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:19 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Ron H: Ron, I still need a fax number to send you the Mirage review.
Also, it is weird that you do not get any thumping when turning the Cinepro on or off. Do you think that it might have anything to do with the fact that your speakers are electrostatics?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:07 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Dumb Question of the Day
Gar: Perhaps AVB can shed some light on the matter as he his the only other member who a) owns a Cinepro and b) uses the trigger.
That said, my understanding is that this is a) normal and b) not loud enough to be damaging to the speakers. Eric Abraham, the owner of Cinepro, told me a while back that it has something to do with the fact that they do not use "speaker relays" (whatever those are). He also told me that the "thumping sound" was minimal compared to the impact of movies so that there would be no worries. We await word from the source, our pal AVB.
Ron H ( 63.26.185.220 ) at 6:05 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Dumb Question of the Day
JBC: By the way congrats on the so far working amp.
Ron H ( 63.26.185.220 ) at 6:04 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Dumb Question of the Day
JBC: I have had the thumping at turn on. I just went and experimented and I an not get my speakers to thump at turn off whether I turn the amp off first and then the MC1, or the MC-1 off first and then the amp.
Joe ( 205.188.195.41 ) at 5:55 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
16x9 size chart
Kieran: JJ made the chart in Excel.
Gar ( 169.207.192.89 ) at 5:50 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
JBC
Actually that is a good question.. I had a Amp that Popped(thump) that was so loud that I blew a tweater.. Needless to say the Amp went after that episode.
Gar ( 169.207.192.89 ) at 5:48 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Dumb Question of the Day
JBC:Thumbing you hear is usually a DC charge being sent to your speakers, some Amps are designed this way. If it is really loud it can cause damage. You might want to ask them at Cinepro if this is normal, or another forum member that has them.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.126 ) at 5:40 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
16x9 size chart
Kieran: sounds like a load of tripe to me... I don't remember a chart here, but I do recall a simple number to multipy by to get the similar size (16 by 9 diagonal with a 4 by 3 picture being the same size as a TV with a given 4 by 3 diagonal)... as for "optimal viewing distance" this is a complete load of crap. it depends on several factors, including the person's eyesight, and the resolution being displayed.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:06 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Dumb Question of the Day
Ok... so here goes! I have received and installed my third Cinepro 3K6MKIII amp and all is well -- all channels work, no scratches, proper serial number and so on. The only thing I am unsure of is the trigger.
I believe that the trigger is working properly as the there is a thumping sound from my speakers when I power off my pre/pro which, I believe, is a result of the amplifier shutting off. Is this correct?
Also, will this thumping sound hurt my speakers?
TIA
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:06 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
The Natural
Cajun Mike:I didnt know that Michael Douglas, Nick Nolte and Jon Voight passed on the project.
... And thank GOD they did! I can't imagine any of them playing that role. I can imagine some other actors, but not them!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:04 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
16x9 size chart
In this post on AVS, Gary Merson claims that he's created a chart that shows every 16:9 screen size, and the 4:3 equivalent. He also claims his is the first chart of its kind:The latest issue of the HDTVinsider Newsletter will be going out today.
Issue 12 is titled Back to Basics: Buying an HDTV. In it you will learn valuable tips on how to evaluate HDTV sets in the dealers showrooms. I have also included an easy reference chart that lists the dimensions of every 16x9 screen size from 24"-120" . I have listed the optimal viewing distance for each screen size as well as the 4 :3 screen size equivalent. This is the first chart of its kind.
If you have not yet subscribed to my newsletter, you still can for the low price of free by going to www.hdtvinsider.com
I KNOW that one of our very own HTOC members created a chart just like this a LONG time ago. I've since lost the link (again), and can't remember who made the chart. Anyone know/remember?
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.220.120 ) at 2:56 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
The Natural
Cajun Mike: Hold on..it does say, Digitally Mastered & Anamorphic Video
Also includes a documentary featuring Cal Ripken Jr., Theatrical trailers, talent files, interactive menus, production notes, scene selections and original story source material.
Inside it has a fold out color booklet that includes real life news stories for which the movie was loosely based and embellished.
I didnt know that Michael Douglas, Nick Nolte and Jon Voight passed on the project.
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.220.120 ) at 2:52 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
The Natural
Kieran: All it says is, "This Dual layer disc contains a widescreen version which preserves the original theatrical aspect ratio, approximately 1.85:1"
Audio it says, "English 2 channel (dolby surround) and 4.0 (discrete surround)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:44 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
The Natural
Cajun Mike: Is "The Natural" widescreen version anamorphic? And, is the DD4.0 sound 3 front and one rear channel? Or is it two front and two rear?
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.220.120 ) at 2:40 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
The Natural
Buy.com rules. I love how they predict the number of days for DVD's to arrive. I receive my new releases the day before everytime.
I just received "The Natural" on DVD. It's has a bunch of bonus materials and is a dual layered disc with a widescreen version on one side.
My only beef is that it's in Dolby Digital 4.0. Caddy Shack was even worse with a Dolby Digital 2.0 soundtrack.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.126 ) at 2:33 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
WOW! An HT post!
AVB: I don't have a problem with the digital inputs (even though they're filled... I don't need any more at this time. The DBS won't have a digital out... no need since we won't be getting any premium movie channels)... it's just trying to get the modulator hooked up so I can use DVD and VCRs through it...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.126 ) at 2:31 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Rich: Umm... I don't want to spend any money at this time... I'll upgrade eventually
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:00 PM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Ron H: If I recall, most laptops now seem to not have a serial port and have USB instead. The adapter was $60. OUCH. I figured I could use it in other situations if I needed a serial connection.
From what I have read on remotecentral, prontoedit only likes com 1. And com 3 must be free. I bought a different adapter first and it didn't work (I should have checked remotecentral first). It installed on com1 but wasn't compatible with prontoedit. It wouldn't connect. I bought the correct adapter, uninstalled the wrong one, and installed the new one. Same problem. However the new one installed on com2. It seems that first adapter I had bought didn't completely uninstall and was still showing on com1. I couldn't figure out how to get if off so I did a reboot of the laptop and set everything back to the way it was when I bought it. This removed the first adapter and opened up com1. I reinstalled the new adapter and this time it took com1 but still wouldn't work, although I got a different error message. Hey, progress. My next step this evening is to either move the modem to com2 or disable it. Apparently com1 and com3 share the same IRQ which interferes which is why I need to go to com2 with the modem (or disable it). GAWD, I love computers.
Ron H ( 63.232.65.117 ) at 11:58 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Need A Break
well this had been a typical Monday but have things sorted out. I think this calls for a extended lunch trip to Audio Concepts.
Ron H ( 63.232.65.117 ) at 11:28 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
BC:Hmmm are all the new Laptops being delivered that way?
What was the cost of the adaptor?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:14 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Ron H: Your lucky! My laptop has no serial port so I had to get a serial to usb adapter. I haven't got it to work yet. Prontoedit is extremely picky about com ports. I found a bunch of info on remote central so this evening I am going to try some different things to see if that fixes it.
Ron H ( 63.232.66.160 ) at 11:05 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
BC: I use my laptop to configure my Pronto. The cable justs plugs in, no adaptor is needed.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:47 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
good morning gang.
Ron - do you use your laptop to configure your pronto? Does it have a serial port or are you using some type of adapter?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:44 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
CAI GOES FOR IT!
Well... Lets see.
First things first. You are talking about a few different things.
A signal modulator: A signal modulator takes video and audio and MODULATES it into a VHF/UHF channel that can be tuned by a TUNER in a TV or VCR.
i.e. Composite video and stereo audio outs from the DVD player go to the signal modulator. The modulator turns this signal into a channel 51. This signal must be introduced into the cable that feeds the house. All TUNERS hooked to the cable will be able to TUNE channel 51. Channel 51 will be the output of the DVD player. You can do this with SAT RECEIVERS too. Once the channel is tuned for the display device, you select the channel you want using the SAT RECEIVERS TUNER.
DiSH does not work with multiswitchs that say DSS on them. Transponder numbers and frequences are different. This can cause one receiver to only be able to tune even numbered channels.
Make it easier for me. Tell me what it is you have. What you want to do and then I will tell you what you need.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 10:40 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Glock
Wild Bill: I do not read the forum everyday. I used too, but the forum has been filled with so much crap over the last few months I can't stand reading everyday. I post when I feel I have something to say.
Ron H ( 63.232.69.212 ) at 10:36 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Sony 10HT
Wild Bill: Hey what is a tube head doing messing around with LCD?
Ron H ( 63.232.69.212 ) at 10:36 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Sony 10HT
Wild Bill: Do you want the bias settings also or just the basic color contrast brightness etc. settings? Also what will you be using for a demo source. My settings are different for each source.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:34 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Sony 10HT
Wild Bill: You know the math for the color temp right? Ellen lives a few blocks away. I may have to just drop in on you when you are in shop!
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.81 ) at 10:21 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Sony 10HT
Gar & RonH: Can you guys post here or e-mail your settings for your projectors? I will be installing a 10HT with a Grayhawk screen in one of the demo rooms at work. If I have a baseline to go on for the settings it will make the setup that much faster. TIA.
AVB ( 64.41.32.107 ) at 10:12 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Modulators
cai: I can't answer your Dish questions as I have DirecTV but the others I'll give a shot.
3. No, the signal out of the MS has to be diplexed out before it goes to the modulator.
4. Yes, a standard multiswitch should work from everything I've read.
5. It may be possible with pro equipment but not what is commonly available for the home. IOW, I'm not sure.
6. A diplexor will split out the combined Sat and OTA signal. A splitter just divideds one signal into two. If your line has any type of Sat feed you need to be sure to get a splitter designed for that as "normal" ones won't work.
A mutliswitch usually can take 2 Sat feed and OTA OR cable input for combining. I haven't seen one with 4 inputs but that doesn't mean they don't exist. See this site, it may help. http://www.geocities.com/dbs_tech/
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:45 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Modulators
Darian: Some time ago you brought-up the subject of using modulators for combining video signals. With this device one would combine, lets say two sources-VCR and satellite-, and have channel numbers assigned to them on the distributed televisions.
My questions are:
1.- Can these modulators be used with Dish network signals? Apparently Dish network satellite signals are different from DirectTv to the extent that some switching equipment has to be purposely designed for Dish in order for it to work.
2.- Can these modulators handle OTA HDTV signals? Will a 1 gigahertz bandwidth be enough for that service?
3.- Can one combine the signal from two satellites, using a multiswitch, and then feed this signal to a modulator? This will give the option of having the two satellite feeds on one TV channel.
4.- Can the Recoton multiswitch sold at Best Buy, one dual LNB plus OTA, be used with Dish signals, or does one need to use the multiswitches from Dish?
5.- Is there a device that will combine cable, satellite, and OTA signal? That is for question 4 above, once you combine the OTA and satellite can one combine this signal with a cable signal.
6.- I understand that splitters are needed. What signals are being split? Is it the satellite that one breaks out from the OTA, satellite from cable, cable from OTA? Please explain.
Thanks.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 9:15 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Remeber the Titans
BAGMAN: I went to T. C . Williams the year after the events in the movie. Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I have heard from several friends who saw it that they got many, many of the facts wrong, about what you would expect from Hollywood. I knew Coach Boone (he was a little obsessed). The trailers seem to portray the team as an underdog. Trust me, we were anything but underdogs. Many teams in our area feared playing us due to the chances of being injured by either our oversized and overstrong players or our unruly fans. The integration issues were very real, though.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 9:14 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Ron H, Joe: My copy is at home. Ron, please forward your fax # via e-mail and I will transmit either late tonight or tomorrow morning.
Joe ( 64.12.102.154 ) at 8:47 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
JBC, my mistake Febuary is the ssue
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 8:42 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Ron J, Joe: I checked the Janaury 2000 issue for the review of the Mirage HDT speakers and guess what -- wrong issue. Please let me kno wwhat issue it is in so I can fax it to Ron. Also, Ron I will need your fax # as I seem to have misplaced it!
AVB ( 64.41.32.244 ) at 7:34 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
WOW! An HT post!
Scott "popcorn": You either need a video switch like JVC (powered remote controled) or Recoton (non-powered manual) makes for the 2 VCR's and LD or just "Y" the outputs of VCR2, one set to the modulator and the other to VCR2 and hook them up in their normal places. Neither of these will help your lack of digital inputs though
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:04 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
LeoV: Happy birthday!
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.160 ) at 6:52 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Rich: Thanx dude! I'll check it out tonight!
Rich ( 152.163.201.51 ) at 2:50 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Cytotech, This may help u out...
www.homenfamily.com/cookbook/grill
Rich ( 152.163.201.51 ) at 2:37 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Scott Pop, .. or u could upgrade to the Denon 3801..
Rich ( 152.163.201.51 ) at 2:35 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Scott Pop
www.msbtech.com
Rich ( 152.163.201.51 ) at 2:33 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Scott Pop,
msbtech.com
Rich ( 152.163.201.51 ) at 2:24 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Leo V, .. Happy Birthday!!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.109 ) at 1:50 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
WOW! An HT post!
Welp, I'm going to go behind the rack now (before heading to bed) and check out how I can re-wire my system. I'm debating about how to go about sending the signals to the receiver AND to the video modulator I mentioned last night. I like the idea of going through the receiver's record out, but the problem is having two VCR's, a DVD, LD, CD, and phono with the AVR-3200 reciever (and a DTS decoder). Also, I'd like to note that the record outs don't work on the same "channel". Namely, you can't use VCR1 out when using the VCR1 input... you'd have to use VCR2 out to get a signal from VCR1.
Now, here is how it is currently hooked up:
Phono to Phono in (duh)
LD via AC-3 RF to RF in (locked to VDP/DVD input on receiver), LD composite video to VDP/DVD input, and also to VCR2 in. Toslink from LD to DTS decoder.
DVD via S-Video directly to TV, coax digital audio to DTS decoder, and left and right audio to pass through on DTS decoder (hear DD menus, etc when in DTS mode)
CD via Toslink to receiver
Zenith VCR output to Mitsubishi VCR inputs
Mitsubishi VCR outputs to VCR1 in on receiver
DTS decoder to 6 channel ins on receiver, with VCR2 input set to 6 channel in so it's easy for the Pronto to control DD vs DTS (DD is DVD/VDP, DTS is VCR2 for both DVD and LD), and coax digital to receiver.
VCR2 outs to video modulator.
Any ideas on a better way to hook things up? I'm trying to reserve TV/DBS for a DBS, which is possible in the near future (parents just can't decide though!) I don't need to run the LD to the video modulator, in fact, it's not used very often at all (all I need it for is to watch Star Wars trilogy and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom), plus having to change discs, etc makes it not very useful for broadcasting to other TVs... However, DVD, the VCRs, and DBS is what I do want to broadcast (DBS might be on a seperate channel... not sure yet) So. let the ideas pour forth!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.109 ) at 1:04 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Off Topic stuff...
Well, it's nice to see things back to a reasonable amount of civility now. I would like to pose a suggestion, and if you guys like it/don't like it, post your opinion on the Admin Forum... The suggestion is that when anyone wants to ask an off-topic question, then they should post their e-mail address and ask for responses to be e-mailed to them. I think this could cut back on the "semi-civil flame wars".
I just hope I didn't offend anyone with any of my posts. I would like to apologize if I did... I simply stated my beliefs, particularly the part about the Constitution being based on the freedom to do anything that doesn't infringe on the freedom of others.
What really gets to me though, is when the off-topic flame wars get so bad that my best comedic stuff gets totally ignored!!! (post to Joe last night about strollers and the post regarding the April Fool's joke I was planning for all you guys!)
One last thing I'd like to throw out, particularly since we now have additional bandwidth to work with... I'd like to see more HT posts. I realize that many of us are "experts" per se, but frankly, the forum is dying... We need to infuse it with more HT talk... Particularly for the sake of the newbies that wander in and those that are lurking If anyone has any question about HT, no matter how trivial or dumb, ask it. We'll be happy to answer! Also, would any of you like to write formal reviews of equipment that you have (like, newly purchased stuff, etc) to include on the site? Any and all comments can be put on the Admin Forum. That's what it's there for
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:37 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
iScans (Quick and Dirty)
iScan Plus: Line Doubler with VGA output. Selectable as RGB or Component via break out cable. 480P ouputs with 3:2 pull down detection. 2S 1C inputs. 101/102 chip
iScan V2: As above and adds switch for scalling a 4:3 image to fit 16:9 screens in correct aspect ratio. Switch alows for the straight pass of 480 to P. Or the inclusion of Grey or black bars to maintain aspect for sets that lock in full when displaying 480P material. 102 Chip
iScan Pro: As above and changes inputs to 1C 1S and 1component. The addition of front pannel trim controls. 103 Chip
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 12:01 AM EST Monday, April 2, 2001
Bandwidth Up-Grade
Derb: Thanks for the offer, but not even worried about it.
Gar ( 169.207.194.183 ) at 11:55 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Kieran sorry I overlooked that question easy to do in the sea of non HT posts. There are a few differences between the two. The new iScan Pro has video Ajustments on the front of the unit, which is slight benefit. But you can change the aspect ratio 16:9 or 4:3 with Black Bars or 4:3 with Gray Bars. Don Musil over at the secrets page said the Pro looked better because of the newer chipset.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.102 ) at 11:32 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
iScan
I asked a question a while ago about iScans, and I don't recall seeing an answer. What is/are the difference(s) between the various models of the iScan? I know that the latest version has component outputs, but that's all I know. Wasn't there some aspect of the version right before this latest one, that people liked better?
Gar ( 169.207.192.232 ) at 11:19 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Hey Cyto... I am using the iScan Pro along with the S-7000 and a Panasonic
RV-80 which is a good match up. Running LD/DVD/and the Dish through the iScan pro, and also the PS2. I just wish it had more inputs, so at times I have to change them if I want to use the Sony PS2. I thought you could use a Scaler with the 10HT? Correct me if I am wrong but I beleive some people are, but I could be wrong. I also finally seen this setup with the Greyhawk screen and if you don't have any ambient light it, is a great match up. Makes the blacks look great, but then again, I never really had a problem with the blacks, too busy on watching the vibrant colors this thing puts up.
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.68 ) at 11:15 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Punching out for the night, fellas. See ya tomorrow!
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.68 ) at 11:15 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we all just get along
ALL: Being a new homeowner, I also recently had another first. I bought my first gas grill. I thought I'd poll you guys for your favorite grilled recipes/marinades or whatever you'd like to suggest. I'd REALLY be interested to find out what BBQ sauces you guys like, as I've never found one in a grocery store I liked.
I've found that being a new homeowner means we entertain. A LOT. Therefore, our meager supply of recipes is woefully inadequate. I really need something for dinner that will put everyone in the HT mood. There.... there was a little HT stuff in there.
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.68 ) at 11:09 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we all just get along?
Gar: You still running an iScan Pro? I was curious, if you were, why you are still so interested in a prog. DVD player. I kind of think they still have a ways to go, and the iScan just seems so versatile. If only the 10HT allowed an external SCALER. Either way, I'm sure it's a great combo.
Gar ( 169.207.192.232 ) at 11:05 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we all just get along
Wild Bill:No comment Not worth discussing any further.
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.68 ) at 11:04 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Joe: Night Joe!
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 11:03 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Well time for bed for me. Big day tommorrow lots of things in store. A trip to the Union hall, a follow up call, a little hair trim, and a lumber yard trip.
But I will be back, ready for another week of Home Theater and genral discussions.
Night All
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 11:00 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
Cytotech: Cool, I might have to try that in a few weeks.
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.68 ) at 10:57 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
Joe: Well, it's like this...
I went to the local fabric outlet type store and found 3 types of tapestry-type(thick!) fabric that would match. Then, I cut particle board(I had it onhand, otherwise I would have used MDF) in various lengths by 2 inches thick(which is how far I wanted it to stick out from the wall, and no more). I screwed and glued them together. Then I chose R-13 insulation rated for acoustic use(available at HD for about $7 a roll) and stapled the pieces into it. Then I attached backer board(also available at HD for about $6 for a 4'x8' piece) to it with staples. BTW, I bought a Cobra staplegun at HD that is great! It requires less force to drive with less kickback.
Anyway, at this point I stretched the fabric over the panels by laying the panel on the fabric, stapling one end, then stretching the remaining 3 sides before stapling them. I marked a little place on the walls for the bottom right corner to come to, measured and placed screws into the studs(2 per panel) at a slight downward angle. I then drilled holes into the backerboard of each panel using my measurements from the mark on the wall and then hung them on the screws. Easy greasy. It just took me a week to do it. But they look pretty sweet. I will take some pictures, and if they come out nice, I'll post them in my bio. They did a good job of eliminating the slap echo effect in my room, and hey, they look pretty good too.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.136 ) at 10:41 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we all just get along
Gar: I never said that you start anything, only that (like me) you always jump in. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. RonH posted a simple question and others on the forum took it where I am sure he mever intended it to go. In fact, I HAD NOTHING TO DO with where it went. I have also never threatened to leave or taken a persons viewpoint personally. What I do take personally are personal attacks. And I have not started "many" political battles. There were two instances where discussion took place. Much of it was meaningful and at some point it degraded. When Ron asked his question if you had posted something like "look guys, my uncle was shot to death today and I appreciate it if the topic was dropped" I am sure 100% of the members here would have done as you asked. Instead you joined the discussion and later raised hell because of your uncles death. It was your choice.
David: You do not know the entire story. Jumping in and judging is not too cool either IMHO. Good luck with your HDTV questions.
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 10:33 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
Cytotech: Hey dude, How did you make those decortive sound panels?
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.101 ) at 10:30 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
Joe: Reminds me of my 3 year old... You have to tell her EVERYTHING at least 3 times!
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.101 ) at 10:29 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Damn!
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.101 ) at 10:29 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
Joe:
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 10:28 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Oooops Sorry ;(
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 10:27 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
http://www.smarthome.com/8420.html
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 10:27 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
http://www.smarthome.com/8420.html
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 10:27 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
http://www.smarthome.com/8420.html
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 10:19 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
cai: You can order it from Smarthome.com or you might need too make friends at the local Electrical Supply house. Any electricians where you work? What about suppliers, maybe somebody that supplies building maintenance. Etichs ( See I can't even spell the word) go out the window when it comes to saving money on HT wire.
For the information part of my post. THe guy was trying to tell you it had to be CL3 rated to go in walls. Basically this says it will not act as a fuse incase of a fire.
You could just run plain 12gauge speaker wire from Homo Depot and pull double lenghts to give you the 4 conductors. I assume you want this for Bi-wiring or Bi amping or just to be Bi.
Give me a few minutes and I will post a link for Smarthome. I have to look up a flower shop for the wifey
Ron H ( 63.232.88.167 ) at 9:39 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Ron H
Rich F:Thanks for the info.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.23 ) at 9:14 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
RickMTB; A modest amount of equipment, does not mean a modest amount of knowledge. The fact that you've avoided the upgrade bug displays a high degree of knowledge, whether budget related or not. The upgrade virus usually causes a high fever, that clouds the mind, and causes hallucinations of incredible wealth, and unlimited budget.
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.82 ) at 9:07 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
cai: Most Home Depots sell 14/4 wire. That is 14 ga, 4 conductor wire. It is sold by the foot off the spool. Or you could buy a whole spool. IMO it would work fine for surround wire.
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.82 ) at 9:06 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
David: Sorry bout that! There was another David in here, but he hasn't posted in a while. He just used the screen name "David." Welcome!
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 9:06 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Speaker Wire
To the No. VA Crowd: Do you know who, besides Myer Emco, sells by the foot the 4 conductor speaker wire that can be installed in walls? Someone at Home Depot in Fairfax showed me what he said was a four conductor wire, but I think it was CAT 5, or CAT3 wire. I presume this CAT wire is inappropriate for speaker wire.
Perhaps I should be more to the point. Most audio/video stores want a fortune for the wire. Does someone know where to buy it cheaply. I need about 500 feet.
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.56 ) at 8:54 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
BIG AL: Now now, I reserve that space known as the bottom of the HT food chain. I have a VERY modest system (Yammy receiver, Mirage AVS500 speaker setup, Toshiba DVD player, Hitachi 32" direct view. In fact, all of my stuff is older that three years, so I have avoided (umm, more like out of my budget) the upgrade bug that courses through here. Still, I enjoy the banter, I have met some and chatted with many, and I too learn about things that perhaps someday I will be able to purchase.
BAGMAN ( 205.245.5.12 ) at 8:47 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
David T: Hang in here these guys/us are good. I've learned & enjoy this joint a lot.
BAGMAN ( 205.245.5.12 ) at 8:44 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
BIG AL: So well said!
David ( 205.156.192.21 ) at 8:38 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Cytotech: sorry wrong David. David Tuner here, someone told me about this place about 6 months ago. Is there a few Davids, if so I will post as David T.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.23 ) at 8:32 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Gar; Sorry about your uncle, and misreading your post, as TonyC pointed out.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.23 ) at 8:31 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Happy B-Day LeoV!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.23 ) at 8:30 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
YIKES! Here's the problem. In order to carry on a conversation about HT, I need to have knowledge of HT. I am at the bottom of the pile in that respect, when compared to the rest of the HTOC. That is why I rarely post on this subject, as I learn more by "listening". When it comes to discussing opinions, I have many. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has at least one. (barring any major surgery)
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.3 ) at 8:12 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Happy Birthday LeoV!
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.3 ) at 8:12 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
David!
David: BTW, how's that LD doing?
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.3 ) at 8:11 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
David!
What's up bud! We moved into our house about a month ago. What an ordeal! Give me a call sometime! Preferably when you are swinging through B'ham. We'll do dinner! Hell, maybe a llittle HT too, since you've never seen my setup.
Also, I made some "decorative" acoustic panels for my HT/family room. I figured I needed to with the vaulted ceiling and with it opening partially into the kitchen. Sounds much better now, and BOY does it look cool! Even Diane liked it!
BAGMAN ( 205.245.5.12 ) at 7:18 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Hey, not so fast Bagman!
T-Man: I've held off from resonding this long so that we could both be rational about this issue. Ok, here's my take. If you have friends that like Lima beans it's your constitutional right to hang out with them. They may not be morons but they most certainly must be dull-witted.Now, in no way am I implying that you are dull-witted for hanging out with these savants but..... As for pizza,is it not a fact that you are a known pizzaphile? What is a pizzaphile, the uninformed may ask. A pizzaphile is an individual that orders a pizza and then begins to "doctor" it up. Examples of "doctoring" are, adding your own "special" stuff,like the hot peppers you have in your fridge,dipping pizza slices into the same hot pepper juices,squirting on Sriracha hot sauce, in sinful amounts, adding dollops of sour cream to the pizza, lastly and maybe the most disgusting, daubing butter to said pizza. Therefore, I cannot respect your stance on pizza crust and may have to withdraw from further culinary discussions with YOU!!! Wait a minute, I used to do all those things to pizza too,nevermind.
BAGMAN ( 205.245.5.12 ) at 6:37 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Many thanks to those that recommended Remember The Titans. What an enjoyable movie. It was also an eye opener, I was in 10th grade in 1971 and have either forgotten or was just naive and didn't know that integration was still an issue or at least such an open and public issue.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 6:18 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Curtis/Gar/Rich
David: As in 720p? Gar steered me to the deal of the decade on a Sampo 34" 16:9 HD direct view that I managed to forget the model # of. It'll handle 720p and 1080i well. There may be other displays out there that do the same but I'm unfamiliar with them.
Watched the NCAA final four on it via CBS HD (1080i) yesterday and was quite impressed with the picture. I have yet to view native 720p on it yet. Some ABC stuff is sent 720 (2 seasons ago Monday Night Football). What's your reason for asking?
Joe ( 64.12.105.179 ) at 6:06 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Curtis/Gar/Rich
David: I believe the Sampoo will do 720p. Darina and Curtis have these sets and could answer better.
David ( 205.156.192.21 ) at 5:31 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Curtis/Gar/Rich
HDTV question, looking for a monitor that will do 720 is there such a monitor(TV)?
David ( 205.156.192.21 ) at 5:28 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Geez
Gar ( 169.207.192.69 ) at 5:26 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we all just get along
Wild Bill: Your philospy is scewed... You reply to every non HT Post we have in here. If fact you started many political battles over and over. And it is not immature to not want to leave a place if these topics keep on going back to Political issues/Religion/ and personal beliefs which yours at times are so offensive you could care less what people think. I might state an opinion of mine because the fricking board is so full of them there is nothing else to reply too, but I always try to answer HT questions or ask them, or stear the topic back to where it should be on this forum and that is HT related stuff. Frankly I think we should have another side bar board for discussions on these matters. And I "NEVER" Post a(Political or Personal) topic and then declare it ended, I state an opinion on the non-HT topics that are being discussed, and then try to get back to what this board was made for. In fact I can't remember ever starting a Political debate in her or a conterversal topic, I just jump, but for some ironic reason you always single me out as the one that started it, and there is where you dead wrong.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 5:25 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
David: Although we seem to occasionally eat our young, we still have a lot of well informed people lurking and posting and their knowledge of HDTV is considerable so I hope you do decide to post.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 5:24 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
HT post!!!!
Simm: I think the key is still to try and match the speakers by brand and then by technology. That is, getting a speaker by the same manufacturer within a similar line will guarantee a match but if that is not feasable or affordable, then at least match design such as soft dome tweeter if the mains have a soft dome and so on. The ultmate arbiter is your ears. If it sounds like the soundstage is fluid then you have a good match. If the soundstage is always segmented even when it is clear that it should be seamless then it is time to move on. Since center channels are so voice heavy, I would try some DVD's with dialogue and then some voice tracks from your favorite CDs. Personally I like to use classical piano or accustic guitar.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 5:20 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
David: Hard as it is, try to ignore all of the noise here.
I'm a huge HDTV fan. What's your question?
Derb ( 199.174.1.46 ) at 5:20 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Customers are walking out the door
David: I don't know much about HDTV but I sure would like to see the question.
Gar ( 169.207.192.69 ) at 5:13 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
HT post!!!!
Simm: Try the Avia Disc or Video Essentials they have good material for doing tests.
Simm ( 63.28.233.181 ) at 5:11 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
HT post!!!!
What is a good test disc to check for timbre matching? I recently bought new main speakers but am still using my old center. When watching a movie I can't really tell that there is a difference in brands between speakers but I want to make sure I am not missing something. I have used the internal test tones in the DSP-A1 so far.
David ( 205.156.192.21 ) at 5:07 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Well I see this place has changed, been awhile since I posted but I have been lurking. Bill no offense but you get a big fat 0 for compassion. And scrolling down through the Post it was someone else that started this whole thing from what I read. I came in here to ask a question about an HDTV, but it sounds like the AVS forum might be more suited for my needs.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 5:06 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we alljust get along
Rich F: I know I feel slightly lecherous when I say this, but I too find Jennifer Love Hewitt very, very appealing. Cute face (great smile), but that smoking bod! Here's another that is in a current film... Penelope Cruz. Caramba!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 4:27 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
WB & get your butt up here!
Duane: Talk about someone who dropped off the face on the planet. How's life treating you these days?
I have a 9" CRT FP (AmPro 4200 Esprit) that I need HELP setting up. I'm paying this time. Interested in a SF road trip?
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.87 ) at 3:11 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we all just get along
Rich F: Yes, we can. I noted in my post to Gar that I am just as guilty as he. However, I don't post on a topic and then declare it ended because I am tired of the topic or because I've become offended or threaten to leave the forum (how many times have we heard THAT one) when I read something I don't like. My philosphy and way of thinking is different than that of many members of this forum. One of those members (JohnO) has become one of my closest friends. We are so far apart in many of our beliefs that I can't begin to describe how far apart we are (I hope that made sense). Other members here see things pretty much the way I see them. Both ways are OK. I just tired of the "it's my ball, I'm pissed off and I'm leaving stuff. IMHO, that is immature. Too much is taken personally on this forum. I don't know if it is the dynamics of the group or just the fact that it is a very small group that has been posting at each other for several years. Many of the HT related posts go ignored nowadays.
If left alone topics tend to die on their own. There was nothing insensitive about my post. As I said, if you don't like the topic then skip the post. Is that difficult? When I see posts about tube amps and tweaks I go right by them. They don't interest me. I think that those that accuse look in the mirror. If that is a wrong way of thinking then so be it.
As I told Gar, I am very sorry to hear of his family's loss. It is tragic and no law-abiding citizen should lose their life to violence.
Derb ( 199.174.5.181 ) at 2:24 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Bandwidth Up-Grade
Sonic: My check went in the mail on Saturday. Let me know if you need addtional funds from anyone failing to pay. Say if they decide to leave the forum. I would not want for you to be stuck with the bill.
Rich F ( 172.142.61.110 ) at 2:20 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Ron H
Just checked and Tweeter can get the Mirage HDT's but does not currently have them in TX. Audio Concepts does not carry Mirage.
Rich ( 205.188.197.59 ) at 2:07 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Mirage Speakers
Darian/Ron H, The Mirage high def speakers are incredable! I'm thinking about selling my M5si main towers and buying the HDT's. The M5's are 1st rate bipolars (2k pr) and share much of tech that goes into the the M3si (3300 pr) and the M1si (6k pr). Of course these speakers are long discontinued and my only reason for considering selling the M5's is they're a little too large for my family room and the new Mirage HDT's have the same PTH tweeter that was used in all the Msi series speakers and are less than halph the size of my M5's. .. Mirage is Koool ..
Joe ( 205.188.195.46 ) at 1:59 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
JBC
If you have the article you can Fax to Ron, please do. By the time I scan it and E-mail it, you could send a few copies.
Ron, Maybe you could send Mirage a E-Mail and ask them to locate a store taht has the HD stuff near you. Might as well make the supplier do the leg work for you.
Rich F ( 172.142.61.110 ) at 1:57 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Bouncey
I too had the same problem with the preferences until I realized I had checked the "show posts since last archive" instead of "show posts since last visit" Doh!!! Check and see if that is your problem.
Joe ( 205.188.195.46 ) at 1:55 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
RickMTB: Thank you sir, advice taken
Rich F ( 172.142.61.110 ) at 1:54 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Can't we alljust get along
Gar: I am sorry for your loss and would not presume to say anything about how you feel or think you should feel. I just hope you decide to stay online after you take whatever cooling off period you need from some people who can not help but put their sensitivity behind their need to spout off.
Everyone else: I have opinions on these issues also but I don't think this is the forum to spout them. I would again agree with those that ask that we keep this forum on topic. This is a fun hobby and I really appreciate the opinion of others about their experience with equipment and pre announcements about what may be coming out (like Martin Logan subs). I hope we can keep what's left of the group.
Saw Tomcats. This movie sucked so bad that I am still mad that I was too cheap to walk out in protest. It was almost as bad as Heartbreakers but Jennifer Love Hewitt was to hot to walk out on and Ray Liota had severa good lines. Gene Hackman and Sigourney Weeaver should be ashamed of themselves.
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.250 ) at 1:46 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Leaving?
Well crap. Just thought I'd post this to say I'm NEVER leaving! HAHAHAHAHA!!! You'll never be rid of me? Got it? No matter what you say or how bad I get pissed off! BWAHAHAHA!!!
Hell, it's way too much fun around here. Oh sure, I don't post a lot. I mean, crap. Most times I just don't have much to add to the conversation, but I DO enjoy reading it and have learned tons of stuff too.
I think the other thing I like about this place is that it allows me to make friends with people from all around this country and the world! I find it fascinating to see how life is different in different regions. I just wish we had a couple of members from the Alabama/
Georgia/Tenn region so WE could have an area HTOC meet. I'm sooooo jealous!
Anyway, just thought I'd let you guys know. Thanks for all the effort in keeping this place going!
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.250 ) at 1:40 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Baby stuff
Joe: I tell you, go to a yard sale and buy a nice(read: heavy) stroller for the baby until he/she can sit up. THEN, do what we did and get an umbrella stroller for about $10-15. These are lightweight and EASY to get in and out of a car at the mall, etc. I can tell you I am glad we only spent $30 on our Graco(heavy, cushy) stroller, cause we used it about 6 months for both kids. YMMV.
Also, I recommend the classic Pooh theme. It has served us well.
Plus, you can buy the border(self stick, too. Just peel and stick, not water needed!) at Home Depot! Your favorite store!
Good luck pal.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.172 ) at 1:39 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Tax time
AVB: Nah, I disagree there, because all working residents of the US are required to pay taxes, whereas only citizens can vote. And, I believe that all citizens that can vote (18 and older) are required to pay taxes also anyway. So your idea I think is already in place.
And for anybody who'd offer up that we're not "technically" required to pay taxes, please don't. There may be twisted ways of interpreting certain laws re. taxation, but in the end, you must file a tax return, and if that tax return says you owe taxes, then you must pay.
(There's a cook out there who's written several books about how paying taxes is "technically" voluntary, and that anybody can get away w/o paying taxes. He's been in jail for tax fraud several times.)
Cytotech ( 216.67.87.250 ) at 1:35 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Uncle
Gar: Either way bud, my condolences to you and yours. I am very sorry to hear of your loss.
Gar ( 169.207.192.7 ) at 12:30 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Bill
Wild Bill: Thanks for the support, somewhat I guess. I just found out this morning, my Uncle didn't kill himself someone shot him. So if I am taking this Personally and I need a reality check I just got one. And don't forget Bill you are the one that steps right up to the plate when it comes to self righteous Act. and How can I not take that post as a flame when you say your sorry then slam me, give me a break. Also, you should take a look who started it, pretty easy if you look through the posts. Self-righteous is someone telling someone how they should feel or act, and your post basically says this. So instead of dropping it you had to get one more low blow in, and it will be the last. I will no longer use this board, pretty clear cut after your last post. Just like to say thanks to everyone for helping me on HT related questions over the years.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.60 ) at 12:10 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Screens
Darian: No problemo. I hope what (very) limited information I gave you was of help. I'm not the best source for a Grayhawk. From what I can gather our clientelle is very well off and we tend to charge list. I'm sure I have a little dicker room but I doubt it is what most of you have become accustomed to getting.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.60 ) at 12:08 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Tax time
AVB: I'm still diggin and the answer seems to be somewhere in the middle of our stances. Now, isn't that political. There's no clear cut answer. I can tell you that I'm certain I am at least partially correct. The 13th Amendment (which abolished slavery) cannot be touched. I've also found references in the materail regarding the impeachibility of the 13th that states that the Bill of Rights (the 1st 10 amendments) and the 27th Amendment cannot be touched also. I'm not a lawyer and I am finding quite a bit of my research tedious so bear with me. I'll send my data to you via e-mail so this board is not littered with any more amendment or Constitutional information from me. Just doing my part to keep America clean.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.60 ) at 12:04 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
Gar: I am very sorry for your loss. No one should have to go through the loss of a family member to violence let alone self-inflicted violence.
You (and I) get involved in every one of these things that comes around. It seems to be our nature. I understand that. You do not. You always want to blame someone else for starting it, or saying the wrong thing IYHO, or whatever. It's quite easy if you don't like a subject. SIMPLY DON'T POST IN THE SUBJECT. We now have topics and it is damned easy to skip over what doesn't interest you or what you do not like. However, if you allow yourself to get into the topic you need to drop the self-righteous act. Please don't take this as a flame. It is not intended as such. Just a reality check.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.144 ) at 12:01 PM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
SnowBalled
Derb: How about bow hunting?
Ron H ( 63.26.174.144 ) at 11:58 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Mirage?
RickMTB: I am looking at the HDT's for HT use. In the future I would like my speakers behind the screen for the front and the sides and rears built into columns. I may move the ML's at that time into the family room or put them up for sale. No desion has been made yet just thinking out loud. I looked in Tweeters and they do not have the HDT's on display. The Mirage site lists A/C as a Mirage dealer but I do not remember seeing any there. I may have to mail order to do a demo. I would have to eat the shipping both ways but......
Derb ( 199.174.2.58 ) at 11:39 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
SnowBalled
RonH: O.K. that is it, you are on posting probation Go sit in time out
Derb ( 199.174.2.58 ) at 11:38 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
e-mail
Darian: You have mail. Please expand on your thoughts alittle more. thanx
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.19 ) at 11:18 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Joe: Went through various types of strollers, Gracos, Centurys, and the last one was an expemnsive foreign one that was supposed to be super high quality (shocks on all four wheels, built like a tank). Best advice, either get one of the ones that are called all-in-one (the big name brands all make these) where the infant seat can be carried to and from the car and attaches to the larger stroller (for convenience and so you don't have to wake the baby when going in and out of car to/from stroller) or get the lightest one you can find (Apricas are pretty good at this). Otheriwse you will be lugging the thing in and out of the car and its a pain. We also have a jog stroller that more and more people are using for everyday strollers, but I think mostly to suggest they exercise, because the things generally weigh more and are way longer than most strollers.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:17 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Mirage Speakers
If I remember this right... our own THXKOOL Rich is a happy Mirage owner.
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 10:16 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Geez... I post the TRUTH (the Supreme Court was wrong btw -- keep in mind that they had recently been threatened with "packing" by FDR, so they rolled over and started rubberstamping most of his socialist nonsense) and y'all get bent out of shape. And two long posts plus an apology is "littering" the board. You guys need counseling. But I'm going to be nice and try to stay with actual HT topics. It's obvious that some of you can't deal with opposing points of view, so why provoke anyone anymore? Sometimes it's best to figure out other peoples' hot buttons and then avoid those buttons entirely.
Sigh.
I've noticed that the "Show posts since last visit" option seems to have no bearing on reality. When I have that option selected, I expect it to show only posts since my last refresh, not the past few days. Am I missing some configuration details here?
Also... Has anyone else tried the Blockbuster "30 DVDs in 30 days" program? We're doing it for the second time. It's kind of annoying to be watching movies at odd hours and going to the store every day to get a new show, but it's a great way to plow through anime titles.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:15 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Screens
WildBill: Thanks for the help. Now that the 10HT that got me thinking is gone I need to look into projectors. As for the screen itself.... it seems everyone recommends the GreyHawk for any non CRT projection.
Other idea have been:
Philips rear Projection... There is a 60" and a 64". The 64" has 9" CRTs and comes with a Pronto. From what I can tell it lacks descrete codes for one button set ups. The 64" set is in the $6500 price range. After living with the Sony for 6 months.. I have really learned to hate the constant convergance touchups. All thought the 10HT will not be able to resolve pictures like a CRT... it makes a big very watchable picture for less than an arm and a leg! Having a Screen on the wall will alow me to reclaim some of the front of my room.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:09 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Farscape
Joe: you can learn all about Farscapre and read plots from past shows at...
www.scifi.com/farscape
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:32 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
LeoV: Happy birthday!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:28 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
FedEx
AVB: No, there is no Sunday delivery in Canada. The srew was that FedEx was suppose to have my amp at their local office on Saturday so that I could pick it up. Someone at their end forgot to put it on the truck!
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.80 ) at 9:16 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Mirage, continued
Ron, btw, why the sudden interest in Mirages? To hook up in another room ?
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.80 ) at 9:14 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Mirage?
Ron H, I believe Tweeters is a Mirage dealer, but I don't know if they carry the (or at least display) the higher-end systems. I didn't recall seeing Mirage at Audio Concepts... seemed they carried Vandersteen, Linn, CAT, Magnepan, Aerial, and Revel.
AVB ( 64.41.32.226 ) at 8:56 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
FedEx
JBC: I didn't know they would deliver on Sunday, does FedEx work different up north?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:55 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Gar: Very sorry to hear about your uncle. My deepest condolences to you and your family.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:49 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Good morning one and all. Is everyone as tired as I am after loosing an hour of sleep!
Ron H: Let me know how the addition of the subs and amps work out as well as your experience with the Mirage's next week. If Joe has trouble getting you the review I can fax it to you tomorrow.
Also, FedEx screwed up and I wont get my amp until tomorrow.
AVB ( 64.41.32.226 ) at 7:56 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Tax time
Getting to be that time of year again and after reading RickMTB's post where he mentioned only land owners could vote it got me thinking. How about an amendment where only taxpayers could vote? This way the prople who pay the money can say how it is spent and not the people who get it for free.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.111 ) at 7:12 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
The second amendment and the courts
The United States Supreme Court wrote in its fullest discussion of the Amendment's meaning, the "obvious purpose" of the Amendment was "to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness" of state militia forces. United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174, 178 (1939). The Court added: "It must be interpreted and applied with that end in view." Therefore, the necessity of maintaining effective state militias is, by the language itself, the only concern of the Amendment, and the right to keep and bear arms exists only to the extent necessary to meet that concern.
There is nothing in the Amendment's language even remotely suggesting constitutional right to keep and bear arms for hunting, self-protection, target shooting or other individual pursuits unrelated to the operation of state militias.
And there-in lies the problem with dogmatic debates about a document that was written hundreds of years ago. Times and people were so much different. For example, when the founding fathers crafted both this country and its constitution, land rights were considered almost everything (as an earlier poster also seemed to suggest... guns are to protect us landowners). Back then, you had to own land in order to vote. That excluded women and non-whites, since you had to be a white man to own land. Thus, if we were to jump to current times, anyone who was not white, all females, and all renters would be not able to vote.
Of course, "we" smartened up and fixed the oversights and mistakes of our founding fathers, with newer amendments and interpretations of the older writings. But I would think noone would want to live under the writings and thought processes of people that lived over 200 years ago, let alone as recent as fifty years ago.
My personal feelings on this debate? I think hunting and target shooting are acceptable reasons to allow people to own guns (heck, I have hunted in the past and my dad was an avid hunter). At the time I think there are way too many guns in the hands of way too many poeple, and worse, those guns get in the hands of the wrong people. I also believe there are types of guns and ammo that noone should own. I worry little about the nra-trained hunter, or the licensed pistol owner, but its the 5 yr old kid that gets left with his dad's 22 rifle (instead of his own "little" gun) that blows his mom's face off at point blank), its the kids playing with their parents guns, its the kids that go to school with the guns, etc etc. Maybe trigger locks will prevent some of these, but to cry out that the government is taking away "rights" or somehow becoming a dictatorship because something has to be done is, well, a position I will never undrestand...
Gar ( 169.207.194.236 ) at 5:25 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
bouncey: Sorry? that is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. You talk to Pop on IRC on a daily basis and this board hasn't had too many problems. He just told you about the topic that is filling this board full of bullshit and you had to ad fuel to the fire. Be honest..... Geez... Sorry regular posting members for all this crap, I am done.. Literally!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.236 ) at 5:21 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
bouncey: This has been your only few post in ages and I find it ironic you litter this board with personal bullshit on why you should own a AK, I could care less. And I don't need to talk to someone about my Uncle, it was bound to happen to him sooner or later because he wasn't watching his medication. But if you watch the news over and over, we are in a country that has become tolerent of killing like it is no big deal and guns happen to be a part of why this is happening. That is a reality........
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 5:15 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Look, I'm sorry if I upset anyone. First, I lost the link. Then I found it again, but the forum was having severe bandwidth problems, so I've been assuming it was more or less non-functional for a while. Then Scott (one of my friends from college) says it's working, and fills me in on some recent developments...
Okay, so I stick to HT topics here from now on. Anyone know how soon DTS-ES will be common in midrange receivers? I'd like to make the DD vs DTS transition painless for guests.
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 5:09 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
Gar:
"Yeah that AK47 is for bird hunting right hahahaha."
Nope, it's for historical value. Mikhail Kalashnikov designed one of the best battle rifles of all time. Even the most poorly made AK clone will function in almost any weather, even a howling sandstorm, with a minimum of maintenance. (Some soldiers in the Middle East call it "the tiger of the desert".) Remember, it was designed for commie recruits who may have never seen indoor plumbing.
I own one because:
1 - It's a tangible reminder of the twentieth century's struggles and crises.
2 - It's reasonably adequate (and legal) for hunting. Really. Its ammo is comparable to most medium-power hunting cartridges. And why would I empty a 30-round magazine at a stupid bird? One shot should do.
3 - It's excellent for fending off multiple threats, such as rioters or looters. Though I hope it never comes to that.
4 - It makes liberals and other fools wet themselves with fear, just knowing that SOMEONE out there owns it.
5 - As rifles go, it was VERY inexpensive. About $330ish.
"They were made for killing, and that is it...."
Well, duh. Except for specialized "target" guns, but that's another story.
The Bill of Rights is never outdated. I wish our government obeyed it once in a while.
My father's friends routinely took guns to school as kids, for hunting on the way to/from or for show-and-tell in class. Nobody cared, nobody shot anybody else. Guns are not the problem. The problem is that kids don't know right from wrong.
As for your uncle... I'm sorry. Go talk to someone about it. Someone who knows you well enough to know what to say. And if anyone else you know is on antidepressants, or really ought to be, watch them closely. Make sure they know someone cares.
As for me... I'm going to bed for real this time. I've been hammering out perl code for Scott. Hope he can make it work with the forum. But I've probably wasted enough bandwidth for one night. If you want to talk more about things like this, go to glocktalk. Very interesting and insightful people there. http://glocktalk.com/
So when did this forum start working again...?
Gar ( 169.207.194.236 ) at 5:04 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Kieran
I am a honest person, I was out drinking tonight first time in ages. Then I come in here and check few post before I go off to bed and I see this shit. So I over reacted, but lately this place has become a soap opera of personal opinions that have gone too far. I like everbody in here and this is one of the main reason I come in here. Everyone in here is intelligent and always informative on new Technology, but lately it seems like a personal soap box of opinions and that is ok once in awhile but it been way too much. So at this point in time I am about ready to pull the plug and find other places to use and go that offer this kind of good information without the personal slams... I just hope we can get back to the topics on had otherwise I will go elsewhere for awhile till things calm down.
Kieran ( 207.214.121.122 ) at 4:49 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
more commentary
BTW, I really think it's great that "bouncey" one of our most frequent posters by far, only finds time to post when Scott tells him that we're talking about guns. Oh forgive me, I guess it was HT related, since his Pronto is on the whack. SHEESH! One of our best members, Gar, is pushed to the point where he's leaving, yet BOUNCEY only shows up when we're NOT talking about HT. Sorry, but this is really pissing me off. Scott, I like you, I really do (usually anyway). But you really need to take a second and re-read the last two day's posts. Some of your posts just make me think, "what the hell is Scott thinking?" Like when you posted to me earlier in a manner that I had JUST said bothered me, and then you start in on Gar, who JUST said that he'd had enough, and this was getting too personal, since his Uncle just died.
So much for a "self policing forum".
For crying out loud people.
Kieran ( 207.214.121.122 ) at 4:41 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
bouncey:And for those who can't identify with or understand those who want a gun for protection and feel naked without it: Try living in Dallas. Or Chicago, or NYC, or any other big city. Dallas turned me from a nonviolence-at-all-costs (for religious reasons) type into a proud owner of an AK-47. Dang, there are some rough neighborhoods in the world....
I'm the one who said (most often recently) that I can't identify with people who feel they NEED a gun to feel safe. Just wondering, does the greater Los Angeles area qualify on your list of "scary neighborhoods" in which to live? I spent the last 10 years living there, and never felt the need to own a gun, and did I live in my share of "less than desireable" neighborhoods, when money was tight.
I think that MAYBE I could relate or understand, if somebody is living right in the middle of a ghetto, with drive-by's and other such violent crimes occuring RIGHT THERE on a regular basis, that they might want to have a decent defense weapon handy.
However, this is an HT board. We all spend lots of money on HT gear, this is not a cheap hobby. If people who are posting and taking part in this discussion live in a neighborhood as I described above, then IMO, they are spending their money on the wrong stuff, and should be saving up to move out. If that was an offensive remark to somebody, then I'm sorry. It's just my oppinion.
Now, while I would understand if somebody in that situation felt they really NEEDED a gun to be safe, I'm not saying I would. I've lived literally right around the corner (one block) from disputed gang turf, which saw a few shootings during the months I was there. Did it freak me out? YEP. Did I run out and buy a gun? NOPE. Did I move out when I could afford a better appt.? YEP.
Living in fear is no way to go through life. There are too many things beyond our control in day to day life that could end it at any moment. In my oppinion, it doesn't do any good to worry about it all. So, I don't worry about the tragedies that might happen to me or my loved ones in the future. Instead, I take it as it comes and enjoy life.
BTW, that is not to say that I don't care, or don't think that things should be done to stop crime etc.
Gar ( 169.207.194.236 ) at 4:38 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Better Yet remove my Bio information ASAP, and I will make sure to remove this site from my bookmarks. I have better things to do then discuss why we should have hand guns.
Gar ( 169.207.194.236 ) at 4:35 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
Scott "popcorn": Get a grip, my uncle just died and you tell me to get a grip, whatever... Maybe you should. You are paranoid, there is by no means that any law in the states that they would pass such a law, the NRA is too powerful and too many people have them, so what the hell are you even worried about.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.26 ) at 4:24 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
Gar: get a grip man... guns are NOT the problem. if it were possible to remove guns from the equation entirely, people would still kill each other, and your uncle would have still killed himself. if you really think about it, they would have to ban kitchen knives, cars, ropes, drugs, and nearly every single thing you see whenever you look in a given direction if you want to stop the killing that goes on. The PROBLEM is social behavior and mental problems. Fix those and no one would have a problem with guns (well, except PETA, but who cares if People Eat Tasty Animals anyway?)
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.26 ) at 4:21 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
BYork: Seems to be some problems... At least with FTP... Trying to upload stuff gives me a "device full" error... and I've already removed (I have a copy on my computer though) three of the oldest forum archives. Could it be that someone is sucking up Superb's hard drive? I don't think we are near our quota...
Well, guys... I was going to play a spiffy April Fools on ya'll, but Supurb (is that a good name for them?) isn't cooperating... So, just imagine if you will that all the posts are in pig latin until you Post/Refresh.
Gar ( 169.207.194.236 ) at 4:20 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
bouncey: Yeah that AK47 is for bird hunting right hahahaha. If this place is going to be lets talk guns or personal opinions you can count me fucking out. My Uncle just "DIED" Because of one so don't preach to me.... They where made for killing and that is it, that is what they were designed for, that doesn't mean you shouldn't have one, but I don't need a fucking lecture about how outdated consitution says we all have the right to own them. Sorry for the profanity but I guess that is my constiutional right to say what I want. I guess we will have to see a couple more hundred kids shooting up schools and killing people before something is done about it.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.26 ) at 3:45 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Hmmm....
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.26 ) at 1:50 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
bouncey: Have you tried teaching it sign language?
bouncey ( 65.26.241.207 ) at 1:44 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
scott told me y'all were talking about guns
First: Back when the 2nd Amendment was written, "well regulated" was a marksmanship term. It meant you could shoot straight, did not waste ammo, and could handle the gun responsibly. Emphasis on shooting straight. Ever since the Depression, though, government regulation of our private lives has become so intrusive that "well regulated" means something completely different now. If we could say it in modern terms as it was originally intended, the 2nd Amendment would read something like:
"Because it is important for our draftees to be able to shoot straight without much extra training, the right of each citizen to own and use modern military-style arms shall not be denied."
It has nothing to do with the National Guard. It expressly forbids our current (unconstitutional) laws which outlaw machine guns and politically incorrect rifles. On the contrary... If the 2nd is to be read correctly, the government should be issuing them for free to the poor, so they can practice marksmanship too.
Folks back then knew quite well that guns are essential for self defense, public defense, and hunting. They wrote the Amendment that way because they wanted to include a federal rationale for affirming a natural right. Sort of the "Congress shall pass no law" part of the 1st Amendment.
Which brings me to the next point. The Bill of Rights does not give us rights. Those Amendments merely recognize pre-existing rights that were given to us by God or Nature. This is why "human rights" are so important now -- no legitimate government may repeal the rights to free speech, free assembly, self defense, protection from unreasonable search, etc.
And for those who can't identify with or understand those who want a gun for protection and feel naked without it: Try living in Dallas. Or Chicago, or NYC, or any other big city. Dallas turned me from a nonviolence-at-all-costs (for religious reasons) type into a proud owner of an AK-47. Dang, there are some rough neighborhoods in the world....
And I'm glad my wife is a good shot with her 9mm pistol.
Final point about this subject before I go to bed: I agree that people with any mental illness should be VERY careful with any dangerous object, whether it's a gun or a knife or a cigarette lighter. But if there's a law passed forbidding possession of a firearm by someone on Prozac, I can guarantee that before too long everyone will be diagnosed with a mental illness and forced onto antidepressants. Especially dissidents and others who speak out too often. Just like how our legislators are already passing laws making all kinds of minor offenses into felonies, so more people will be unable to buy guns or vote. It's happening NOW. It's quite intentional.
Scott: My Pronto doesn't want to talk to the Toshiba TV.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.26 ) at 12:59 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
cai: huh?
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 12:24 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Scott "popcorn": Unbelievable that you bring up the Leviton media box. I just bought it yesterday and spent the whole day installing it. I did not want to drill holes through the top plate in the stud walls, so I had to think hard as to where to put it. I also bought the power module that allows one to power modems, video signal boosters, and other minor equipment that one could put into this box. I did make a mistake in that I also bought a voice/data module that did not have all the outputs interconnected. In other words, what I want is a module where I plug in a live line and all the other lines coming out from this module will also be powered.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 12:11 AM EST Sunday, April 1, 2001
Big Al: No offense taken on the watch comment. I was just expanding on the reasons for the design.
Joe: Yes, GWB was in the Air National Guard as a pilot.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.26 ) at 11:54 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Joe: First, you can't go wrong with Winnie the Pooh. Second, Leviton has a lot of media type stuff, including "security cameras" that mount in a standard wall box, and use CAT-5 cable (I think?)... I should also mention that I bought a video modulator at Radio Shack (it's a new item) that you can set any channel on the box (14 through 69 for UHF, other channel ranges for CATV, but I forget which ones) and I'm using it from the record outs of my receiver to pump either DVD or VHS outputs to any TV in the house on channel 20. If we get a DBS system, it will also be sent to all TVs too. anyway... on to strollers;
The all-terrain tires are good because you can go anywhere with them... However, some upscale stores and other places with nice carpeting might frown on the tire tracks you leave... The problem with good all-terrain tires is that to get a soft ride you need the pneumatic ones. However, if you get a slow leak or a flat you'll have to have a frame pump on the stroller to pump the tires back up, and that can be a pain if you're in a hurry. The next best option is to get either "run-flat" tires, or a cheaper route would be to get semi-pneumatic tires. However, this reduces ride comfort, so you might want to offset the comfort and handling by looking into strollers with suspension systems. I would suggest coil springs and oil dampers.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.246 ) at 11:36 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Unconstitutional
AVB: I'll dig it out but I will need a couple of days. I'm ready to crash and tomorrow is another busy, busy day. I may have to call the G-Man on Monday to get the answer.
Ron H ( 63.232.69.100 ) at 11:31 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Escient
Wild Bill: nice toys in your store.
Joe ( 152.163.194.203 ) at 11:06 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Night All
Joe ( 152.163.194.203 ) at 10:48 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Wasn't George Bush in the Guard?
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.246 ) at 10:48 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Escient
Joe: I don't think so but I haven't explored all the nooks and crannies yet. What I have seen is Dynaudio, Meridian, Sonus Faber, Martin Logan, Thiel, Revel, Pioneer Elite, Sony (only DVD players, projectors and plasma TVs), Jeff Rowland, Mark Levinson, Stewart Filmscreen, REL, Bryston. I think that's it but there is probably more.
AVB ( 64.41.33.111 ) at 10:44 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Unconstitutional
Wild Bill: The people did form a militia, that is where the Guard came from. Since the Bill Of Rights are only the first 10 amendments to the constitution and the Constitution can be amended and changed so can these. Dig it out Bill. I'm calling you on this one. (poker reference, I'm not going to call you on the phone.)
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.246 ) at 10:42 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Your Questions
Ron H: I just figured everyone was ignoring everything that is HT related today. I posted some comments a my big duh! and no had any comments to make.
Sixth Day - I haven't seen it so I can't answer your question.
Mirage Speakers - I haven't heard them so I can't answer your question.
Your third question - something about amps, wasn't it? There's so much chaff in the forum today (lima beans and broccoli) that I couldn't find the post. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. 
Gar: Here's where I stand on progressive scan at this point. I believe that there is not an outstanding progressive scan DVD player on the market at this opint. They all have problems and do nothing for someone with a projector (i.e. we need higher resolutions than 480p). It is my belief that you should purchase the best interlaced player that you can afford and use a scaler in conjunction with the DVD player. You'll get a better image than current progressive scan players can provide. JMHO.
Joe ( 152.163.194.203 ) at 10:40 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Bill, you guys have one of these Escient systems in your shop?
http://www.escientconvergence.com/default.htm
Joe ( 152.163.194.203 ) at 10:37 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
So just to ramble about a soft topic for a few minutes lets talk strollers. After I was overcome by looking at cribs, changing tables and some other thing we went to the stroller asile.
Now I figured they would have 3 maybe 5 kinds of strollers, man was I wrong. I swear there must have been 35 strollers in this one asile. They had basic ones, ones with ATV tires, canopys, bug netting, detacable accessories and the Carseat / Stroller combo unit.
Car seats there was another asile, I liked this real cool one that looked like a seat from the Andromeda. My wife wants one that has a detacable base. We would have 2 bases and one seat.
But it gets better I finally found the electronics asile. Little cameras and monitors to set up in the babys room. I think I could do better with the wiring I have in place. A camera my wife could see from any TV in the house would be pretty cool.
Now the most important choice.....The Blue Winnie the Pooh or the Noahs Ark theme 
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.111 ) at 10:31 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Unconstitutional
AVB: It can also be interpreted to mean that the people have the right to bear arms and FORM a militia if they choose. You did skip the part (I can did out the specific passages) that grant us our 10 inalienable rights (The Bill of Rights). I stand by my comments. The Bill of Rights cannot be amended or changed.
Joe ( 152.163.194.203 ) at 10:27 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Gar
I mentione dthe Escient system. Nevermind I found the price IT's around $7500 for the controller and changer. I did not realize it was so much.
Ron H ( 63.232.70.160 ) at 10:22 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H
Joe: Many thanks.
Joe ( 152.163.194.203 ) at 10:14 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H
Ron H: Yes, I will get it to you in the next couple of days. Excellent review.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.150 ) at 9:58 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Militia
AVB: But as citizen soldiers, you still have a "superior" that gives you orders, right? Or is it more of a democracy, where all the soldiers can vote on what's right and wrong, the majority winning? Dr. Strangelove is a good example of this... one out-of-mind person in the chain of command could botch things up pretty well. I'm not saying it's likely to happen, but I still think any law-abiding citizen should have the right to have guns. My basic interpretation of the Constitution is that you are free to do what you wish as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Owning a gun doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights... what infringes on other's rights is if I start shooting it haphazardly, which I'm not going to do
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.150 ) at 9:53 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Hey, not so fast Bagman!
T-Man: Broccoli SUCKS. It should never have been put on this planet... What a waste of matter... On a genetically broken smelly green that has a rather foul taste. No one in their right mind would eat it. And those who do eat it have no left mind.
AVB ( 64.41.33.111 ) at 9:23 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Saturday night special
Tony C: You quoted Lynyrd Skynyrd. I was making a joke with Ckynyrd instead of Skynyrd.
AVB ( 64.41.33.111 ) at 9:21 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Beans
BAGMAN: My feelings exactly except make it Brussel Sprouts 'cause I really like lima beans.
AVB ( 64.41.33.111 ) at 9:19 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Militia
Scott "popcorn": You need to read up on who and what the National Guard is before coming up with a statement like "..but what if the state militia is corrupt." Who do you thing is in the Guard? We are CITIZEN soldiers.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 8:46 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H:
Gar: i have no answer on the new DVD players. As I am at the moment content with mine I have not really paid much attention to what is new.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 8:41 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H
Joe: I have looked for that one and can not fid it. Do you have a scanner?? How was the review?
Joe ( 205.188.192.27 ) at 8:33 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Gar
I have not read anything about new players. On a similiar topic I found a place 35 miles from me that has the Escient gear on display. I showed my wife the add and she thought it was cool. Sometime next week I might takethe ride to "Recon" the gear. You know I think they ahve a progessive player.
Joe ( 205.188.192.27 ) at 8:31 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Robert
Hey you want me to pick out some paint colors for you
Gar ( 169.207.194.144 ) at 8:30 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H:
Gar:No it was a general question to all, if anyone knew about the new Progressive Players coming out by Panasonic or HK.
Joe ( 205.188.192.27 ) at 8:25 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Robert
Since you aksed for opinions, wait until the room is finished.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:25 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
This place seems to have gone off the deep end this week. Too many topics...too much to think about. Maybe I should post some pics of my gun, my guitar amp, my watch, and my pizza.
Joe ( 205.188.192.27 ) at 8:24 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H
I read a review of the Mirage HD system. I remember reading it so I looked it up for you my southern commrade. It was in SGHT January 2000. Being the HT addict you are you probabley have it sitting around somewher to pull out and review.
Joe ( 205.188.192.27 ) at 8:22 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Evening all,
Bagamn & T-Man I tought you guys where from Lima bean Ohio
Went to Babys R US today. Oh man, I was overwhelmed. I had no clue I can see some cramming coming up for me on what to buy and what not to buy. If any of you experinced fathers want to chime in, I promise I won't take any advice in a insulting manner.
Robert ( 38.27.198.140 ) at 7:59 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Here's a HT Topic for you
Getting closer to the Drywall stage. THe framing's up and I'm 80-90% done with ALL of the wiring. I think I'm getting a Digital Camera this next week so I'll be able to put up some pics at some point in time.
I also can't decide on some paradigm speakers,,,Studio series (the 20's), and a servo 15 ( anyone here have a servo 15), or the regular line (mini monitors) and still a servo 15. Price may be an issue unless I move my def tech PF1500TL, so it may be just the regular Paradigms. Any opinions?
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:31 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
Tony C: I have a mid sixties Tele and a late 60's Les. I would like to add a 60's Strat to the collection but the price....!!!!. I may look for a old Gretch.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:28 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
RB: It was not awful and at times entertaining. The wife liked it more than the Sixth Day. Go figure. Decent weffects both video and sound wise. I thought the Kung-Fu robot was a little hokey ut also made me laugh at first.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:25 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
Tony C: Make that a Fender "Twin Reverb" with tubes in it. I almost picked it up for old times sake.
RB ( 205.188.195.31 ) at 7:25 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
Ron H: Is that the one with Val Kilmer? How was the movie in general?
T-Man ( 24.48.225.13 ) at 7:23 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Hey, not so fast Bagman!
RB: Stuffed crust, thick crust.....the more crust the better! Long live dough!
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:23 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
DVED=DVD.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:22 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
RB: Duh you guys may be right. I forgot it was a mirror. Now I need to check it out again. Good vidio image on that DVED.
another DVD with a great image I watch yesterday was The Red Planet.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:20 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Hey, not so fast Bagman!
T-Man: Brussel Sprouts!!!!!!!!
RB ( 205.188.195.31 ) at 7:19 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Hey, not so fast Bagman!
T-Man: What about stuffed crust pizza? Or is that what you were referring to?
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:18 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
Tony C: I have always loved the sound of Marshalls. Back in the 60's it was one of my favorites. Back then I coiuld immedeitly (spl) know if someone was using a Marshall by its sound even before I saw it. I playes with a Fender Twin tube amp today. It bought back many memories and sounded pretty good also. The amp not my playing that is.
T-Man ( 24.48.225.13 ) at 7:17 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Hey, not so fast Bagman!
BAGMAN: While I agree with what you said about opinions, I believe you have stepped over the line with the lima bean comment. Guns, potitics etc, are one thing, but to take such a hard line stance on lima beans is setting me off. Don't get me wrong, I hate them. BUT, I have several friends who like them and they are not morons! What's next, breaking bad on broccoli? Sorry to over-react, but I had to get that off my chest.
By the way, I like thick crust pizza and that does NOT make me any less of a human being!
RB ( 205.188.195.31 ) at 7:16 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
Ron H: I saw that movie a couple of days ago and I thought he was looking at his left eyelid. That movie rocked!
RB ( 205.188.195.31 ) at 7:14 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Laserdisc
Just got my first LD player today and hooked it up. It's a Pioneer CLD-1070 which my uncle gave to me. SInce the only LDs I had around were the Star Wars series in they went! Good stuff, this LD. How come no one ever mentioned how good they sound?:)
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:13 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H:
Gar: Was it to me?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:12 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
Ron H: Oh yeah, guitars will only increase in value. Not like our other hobby. I have two friends who are avid collectors. I love going to their homes to play the trophies. But I never got into it myself. Although the ones I own are real keepers. I have both tube and solid state guitar amps. I like the tube (Marshall) much better than the Fender SS.
As for the movie, maybe he was looking at his left eye in the mirror? I haven't seen the flick so I can't really say.
Gar ( 169.207.194.52 ) at 7:11 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H:
I am still waiting for a response to my Progressive Scan question.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:09 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
BAGMAN: I am with you on the beans.
Gar ( 169.207.194.52 ) at 7:09 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
BAGMAN: I hate Lima Beans! hahahaha The movie Return of the Titans is a good one. Enjoy!
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 7:08 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Hey
Is anyone wanting to talk HT today. I have made at least three post asking questions or refering to HT with only one response. Curtis also asked for help with no real response.
This is OK but lets not gripe or ban other topice because this place will become a ghost town.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:06 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
AVB: Huh?
BAGMAN ( 64.45.219.114 ) at 7:03 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Evening Deep Thinkers: Guns,abortion,religion,politics and direct vs di-poles vs bi-poles are all good topics for discussion and that's all they are. In reality,most of us when discussing these topics are only expressing our opinion. It is my belief that when it comes to opinions there are no right or wrong opinions. Opinions exist in their own universe and are exempt from the laws of right or wrong.They should not be construed as inflamatory. We are going to check out Return Of The Titans tonight,looking forward to the movie. In conclusion,Lima beans suck and anybody who eats them is a moron.
Gar ( 169.207.194.52 ) at 7:01 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Kieran: Ok this is one of the frickin Reasons I don't like personal post of this type. I never said I was anti-gun... Geez quit reading into things. I am anti Gun only too people who commited a Federal offense or any one on Anti-Depression medication!!!! Reason being for that one are clear, my Uncle just died yesterday, Ex Vietam Vet. and on Depression anti Depression medication for years and he just shot himself.. So I am anti Gun on those issues and I don't want to own a gun. And thank you Tony because that was my interpretation they where designed for killing if they weren't we would all own Stun Guns. Can we please move onto another subject this one is a huge thorn in my side right now!!!!!
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 6:24 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Tube Amps
I did look at some tube amps today..... They were guitar amps. Same stuff as here ther are many and even most who feel tubes are far superior.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 6:10 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sixth Day
I watched the Sixth Day this morning. I do have a question about the dots on the left eye lid. They said you could tell how many times someone was cloned by counting the dots on the lower left lid. Wwwwhen Schwartzenegger (spl) checked his eye he checked the lower right lid and had the dots there.
I was expecting a answer as to why his was on the right but either they did not bother or i fell a sleep and do not remember. Can anyone help me out on this?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.150 ) at 6:10 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Kieran: I think I'd tend to disagree with the "state's militia" interpretation of that. What if the state's militia is corrupt? I feel that "the right to keep and bear arms" is the right of every citizen to protect their own property.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.150 ) at 6:06 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Gar: Ok. then let's call boom boxes (particularly with "subwoofers" built in) and Walkmans... same difference, smaller package.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.239 ) at 6:03 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
JBC: Audio Concepts (the nice high end store we visited) is listed as a Mirage dealer. I do not remember seeing them there but will take a look next week to see if they have the HDT system set up.
I went to a few of the music stortes around today and am considering adding a old/collectible or soon to be collectible guitar to my collection. It may be a better investment than a HT product.
I should be seeing my friend tommorow and should be able to pick up the 5 channel amp and the two JBL THX non powered subs for about $300.
AVB ( 64.41.32.7 ) at 5:57 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Kieran: In that you are wrong. Every state has a National Guard.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.221 ) at 5:45 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Gar: You said that you were agreeing with me, then proceded to write a post that was quite different from what I had said. It sounds to me like you are mostly anti-gun. I am not. Although I don't own one, and might not ever own one, I support our rights as citizens to "bear arms" if we so choose. Most of my posts were commentaries on people's behavior and attitude towards why they NEED to own a gun.
As the constitution is currently interpreted, we have the right to own guns. What I don't relate to, is the mentality of people who don't feel safe without a gun. People who think this way just have a different view of the world than I. But I've never said that we as people shouldn't be allowed to own guns of any sort. (hand or rifle).
I do think AVB's oppinion of how the 2nd ammendment should be interpreted (i.e. you have the right to bear arms, but only if you're a member of the state's "well maintaned militia") is very interesting. I don't know that I'd be opposed to that... but it would be a drastic change. Especially since the states don't generally have organized militas.
AVB ( 64.41.32.7 ) at 5:35 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Tony C: Tony Ckynyrd
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:17 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Abortion? Ever notice that the women who are against abortion, you wouldn't want to f*** anyway?
That's a joke son.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:15 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Still on the Gun thing?
I thought that it would have calmed down by now.
Big Al&Scott: Gar did not say that the only thing guns are good for is killing. What Gar said was, that guns were designed for killing. Any one want to despute that?? Didn't think so.
"Mister Saturday Night-time Special, got a barrel that's blue and cold. Ain't good for nuthn', but put a man six feet in a hole."
Ron H ( 63.26.163.150 ) at 5:11 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Derb
Joe: I will not even comment on my thoughts on France. They need their memory jogged.
Rich ( 205.188.197.31 ) at 4:52 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Duane, .. Welcome Back!!! ..
Gar ( 169.207.194.55 ) at 4:28 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Scott "popcorn": Lets get this Straight........ HAND GUNS... Don't lump them all together.. And as far as Amps go, a good Pre/Amp can control the volume so you don't go deaf.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.150 ) at 4:20 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Gar: If guns were only designed for killing, let's make the equivalent assertion that large speakers and high power audio amps were only designed to deafen people.
AVB ( 64.41.32.121 ) at 4:11 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sony TA-E9000
Duane: Well worth the $100 for the upgrade. I've had it for some months now and it seems like it made the unit quieter across the board.
AVB ( 64.41.32.121 ) at 4:09 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Unconstitutional
Wild Bill: We are the government, if the people say "X" it is brought before the house and senate and voted on. If 2/3rds agree it is then put before the states again. If 2/3rds of the states agree the an amendment to the constitution is put in place. Anything can be changed because it is the people making the change and not by government decree. to quote the first 2 paragraphs of the Bill of Rights:
"The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;
Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:"
The Bill of Rights are amendments just like Prohibition was and can be changed.
BTW, if you read the second amendment it says: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
This can be interprated to mean you have to be in the militia and I wish that it was.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.143 ) at 3:19 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
shapers=shakers. My fingers don't work like they used to.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.143 ) at 3:18 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Talk about a biiiigggggg duh!
I was calibrating my speakers to the Meridian today and when I got to the LFE I noticed that the bass shapers were doing their thing but that the sub was doing nothing. I went over to the sub and checked to make sure it was on. It was. I then started checking wires at the back of my rack and suer enough, the sub cable was right there on the floor unattached. I attached the cable to the LFE out and voila!, output to the subwoofer. God only knows how long it has been since this thing was connected. I installed the bass shapers at least 3 months ago. There is definitely more impact in explosions and such now. Just goes to show, always check your connections once in a while.
BTW, the Meridian is quite cool and is extremely adjustable. For instance, when calibrating levels I was able to increase or decrease each channel in very precise .5db increments. I can also adjust the crossover to the sub in 1 hz increments, yada, yada, yada. This thing is a joy to play with when you figure out how it works.
Duane ( 207.215.141.136 ) at 3:06 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Big Al
Thanks also...nice to get the quick replys...
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 3:05 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Gar; You're quick! I forgot you had one! Blame it on only 4 hours sleep.
Duane ( 207.215.141.136 ) at 3:05 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Gar
Thanks for the reply and the offer.I really hate the remote and would go with the kit most likely....thanks again
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 3:04 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Hi Duane! Long time! I have the 9000, and the upgrade, but can't install it, because ****** won't send me my laptop! AVB has had it installed on his for a while with no bad side that I've heard of. oade.com has them.
Gar ( 169.207.194.138 ) at 3:02 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Duane I have it and it is worth it, but better yet, I can make you a copy if you wish. I sent one to Curtis. Only thing is you don't get the remote, and you have to access the new Sound formats via the front panel of the Sony. Otherwise you can buy the kit from Oade Brothers online for about $100 bucks.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 3:01 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Gar; I wouldn't say the ONLY thing handguns are good for is killing. I have a few, and have shot thousands of rounds through them, and haven't killed anything, or tried to. I've had fun everytime I've used them too.
Duane ( 207.215.141.136 ) at 2:58 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sony TA-E9000
Hey guys...long time away. How is everyone doing? After reading some of the current topics,I hope I'm not out line by asking an HT related question...
I know a couple of you have the 9000..Curtis ???? Has anyone gone to the latest firmware upgrade (2.01 upgrade kit) and if so,is it worth it? Any problems ? If it's worth the change,where can this kit be obtained ? I bought the proc about a month ago,too good a deal to pass up and wonder if the new version is worth it...thanks in advance
Gar ( 169.207.194.138 ) at 2:56 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Wild Bill: Can't teach a old dog new tricks, does that work better.. hahahahaha Just kidding..
Joe ( 64.12.105.29 ) at 2:48 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Derb
Abortion, Lets try this issue.
I see where they caught the man that killed the abortion doctor. He was caught in France. France will not extradit (sp) him if he is prosecuted with the Death Penality. I think once we get him back he should be tried with the death penality.
He commited murder, fled the country and has been caught. Now a forgien country wants to tell us how to proscecute our crimanals. The same country that has a history of touture and exacution.
There we have Murder ( guns) Abortation and the death penalty.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.141 ) at 2:31 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Unconstitutional
AVB: Sorry for all the typos in my last post but I'm sure you got my meaning. The Bill of Rights is protected by the Constitution and cannot be amended. This is the basis for my assertion that changing the Second Amendment would be unconstitutional.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.141 ) at 2:24 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Gar: Given our past history I think it would be best if the "chicken" comments and the like were left out of posts. You should know by now that if I have a stance on an issue I will in no uncertain terms tell you exactly what that stance is.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.141 ) at 2:21 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Unconstitutional
AVB: Here's the basis of my statement.
"Bill of Rights, first ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States. The Bill of Rights establishes basic American civil liberties that the government cannot violate."
The government CANNOT violate these rights. These are our unlienable rights that cannot be taken away. Fell free to comment but the wording is specific and has held up for over well over 200 years. According to the basic language you CANNOT amend the Bill of Rights.
Gar ( 169.207.192.58 ) at 2:04 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Progressive Scan DVD Players?
Anyone seen the new Panasonic line or the new 5 Disc Harmon Kardon DVD50?
Also I have been hearing Sage bought out Faroudja and will be using there chipset in some of the newer DVD players coming out, hopefully this will be a good thing.
AVB ( 64.41.32.218 ) at 2:04 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Abortion
Derb: What is the old joke....Abortion would be much better if it could be made retroactive. Something like that.
Gar ( 169.207.192.58 ) at 2:01 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Derb:hehehehe Oh no we are in trouble now........
Gar ( 169.207.192.58 ) at 2:00 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
So Bill you a Chicken in the middle of the road? hahahaha JK! The Constitution need refining....in some areas.... Sorry Bill I got your post mixed up with Winstons.
AVB ( 64.41.32.218 ) at 1:56 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Unconstitutional
Wild Bill: Amendments to the constitution unconstitutional? Explain that please.
Derb ( 199.174.2.224 ) at 1:56 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Gar: Awww man.... and I was going to bring up abortion next
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.141 ) at 1:54 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Gar: I'm not on a "side". For personal reasons I don't want to own a gun or have one in my home. I feel that handguns are for protection when owned by law-abiding citizens. Our constitution gives us the right to bear arms and unless the constitution is changed (BTW, to do so would be unconstitutional) I will abide by the laws of this country. Remove flag draped over shoulders and step down from podium.
Gar ( 169.207.192.58 ) at 1:27 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Guns?
Well I must take Wild Bill and Kieran side on this issue. Frankly I think the only thing handguns were designed for was killing. I mean come on, the worst excuse I have ever heard is all the criminals have guns now, well you know What your right. How did that come about, well lets see, we have been handing guns out like candy for the last century and have made it easy to get one especially the criminals. So now it would be insane to take away the right to own one for protection, because once again we were stupid and didn't have good laws in place to begin with. This is just an opinion and I don't want to get into a debate about. Also it seems personal issues just cause people on this board to get pissed off, if it be Religion/Politics, Guns, etc.... Someone is bound to disagree in a personal matter that causes them to get pissed off and leave, history has showed this over and over. So I say we stick to HT or technoloy related areas... Just a suggestion, thats all
johnbr ( 24.112.158.228 ) at 1:08 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Joe: That is a good one.
Rich ( 152.163.204.71 ) at 12:54 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sonic, Got it Thanx!!
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 12:50 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Rich: Email sent!
Rich ( 152.163.204.71 ) at 12:46 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Joe,
Joe ( 64.12.105.34 ) at 12:42 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
A man enters his favorite ritzy restaurant and, while sitting at his
regular table, he notices a gorgeous woman sitting at a table nearby,
all alone. He calls the waiter over and asks for their most expensive
bottle of Merlot to be sent over to her knowing that if she accepts it,
she is his. The waiter gets the bottle and quickly sends it over to the girl,
saying, "this is from the gentleman at the next table."
She looks at the wine, checks out the man, and decides to send a note over
to him. The note reads:
"For me to accept this bottle and return my favors, you need to have a
Mercedes in your garage, a million dollars in the bank and 8 inches in
your pants."
The man, after reading this note, sends a note back that reads as follows
"For your information, I happen to have a Rolls, BMW, and a Mercedes in my
garage and I have over two million dollars in the bank, but under no
circumstances, not even for a woman as beautiful as you, would I cut three
inches off my _____! Just send the bottle back!"
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.150 ) at 12:39 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Still Guns
Joe: S&W does make a gun very similar (just cosmetic changes) to the Walther P99... it is the SW99. The Walthers come in 9mm and .40, and I think the S&W's do too. There is no safety as such... just a long trigger pull with a pretty heavy pull at the end (double action only), and there is a three-mode trigger pull on the DA/SA guns, along with a decocker. The nice thing about it is... no hammer
Rich ( 152.163.204.71 ) at 12:38 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Sonic, i need a snail mail addy, and who to make check payable to...
Rich5600@aol.com
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 12:35 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Joe: You mean remotes like ones with pause and MUTE?
Rich ( 152.163.204.71 ) at 12:33 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
New Elite DVD Players
Wild Bill: , Thanx!
Joe ( 64.12.105.34 ) at 12:31 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
I am going to Babys R Us. 2 months to go and I am getting excited. This is the fastest I have ever seen my wife get ready to go somewhere on a Saturday morning. I wonder if they have baby remotes.
Joe ( 64.12.105.34 ) at 12:28 PM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Still Guns
I use HydroSchock in my .40 165 grain.
Ron, I believe and I could be wrong on this one ( probabley not that the Walter that Popcorn mentioned is the same as the S&W40. The main differance is the S&W is more affordable.
Derb,
I read a test that found that a .223 had less though the wall penatration then a 12ga iwth "00". I was surprised at this and not sure if I would prefer a shorty AR-15 over a 112 guage for home defense. The sound of a shotgun being racked is usally enough to scare the shit out of people.
Now the Glock 17 can be fired under water, which could be helpful in Houston
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:13 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
cai; If my vehicle could do 220 mph, I'd definately go for it! I don't think I could make it 2000' under water though. I wasn't putting down the watch! I hope you didn't take it that way! I was wondering why such an extreme. I suppose excess in design is a good thing.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 11:06 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
AVB; Thanks for your input. I apreciate any input from a proffessional. The difference in our thinking is the difference in our abilities. I practice when I can, and never having shot in a panic situation, am not sure of my abilities in such a situation. I'm fairly accurate, but stress can change that. Also I use Glazier safety slugs, and I'm not sure of their affect on bone.
Rich F ( 172.146.114.61 ) at 10:58 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Watches
I never thought I would want a really good watch until I was in Bermuda and saw this awesome watch that had all the numbers on one side and popped from the bottom back to the top at 12. It looked really cool but was not easy to tell time. I had a lot of comments on it but recently went to have the battery changed and the odd shpe caused is to break when they went to put the back on again. They are paying for the watch but I would love to get another one. Guess I will have to go back to Bermuda
Part 2 is that a local jeweler was going out of business and I got a Tag 6000 at 65% off and have been wearing it for the last 2 years. I never thought I would like wearing a thick watch but now that I have been I really like it and it keeps great time.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 10:16 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
GLOCK
Derb: The Sig Sauers do not have a lock at all. Being double action, the 7 pound trigger pull for the first shot make it a very concious effort to fire the gun. Unless you have cocked the hammer, in which case the pressure is about 3 pounds, that 7 pound pressure is a reminder that you really want to fire this weapon. No one in his/her right mind would carry such a gun cocked.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 10:07 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
BIG AL: How unimaginative Big Al, just suppose you are in the underwater station of "The Deep" and you run out of milk or toilet paper. You are on your way to the store in the next module and you meet Ralph, you start a sign language conversation and oops you look at your 2000 foot proof underwater watch and heck it is getting late.
This is a specialty watch in the sense that it is made to stand the rigours of deep diving, uncompromisingly, to the depths of human endurance. It has a valve to let out helium, that apparently accumulates inside the watch. Look at it this way, a Porsche turbo can go 200+ miles an hour, how many of the old geezers that can afford this car ever drive past 90 MPH. By the way, it is selfwinding and it has stopped because I have not worn it for the last few months. I do not think that it harms the mechanism.
Derb ( 199.174.4.150 ) at 9:49 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
GLOCK
Ron H: Personnaly I don't like the fact that the Glock only has a trigger safety, even though I own it. I purchased it for that it never jams,light wieght,and the number of rounds in the magazine (17) pre-ban clips. I can see the pro's and con's of not having the safety. In a panic to use the pistol, you will either discharge the weapon by mistake or forget it is on and try to fire the weapon. The best cure for either to become really familar with the pistol. Go to the range, lots and lots. Thier is a huge outdoor range over on old Westheimer "American Shooting Center" they have classes/training/safety and the carry permit classes. I have been told the carry permit classes have less on how to use the pistol but more on when "the law" you can fire it at someone. Bottom line the safety is on more conscious step to take before firing, prove up your target, is this someone/thing I really want to fire at. The Glock is meant to go to town at the drop of a hat. This why I do not keep a round chambered. I must pull the breach, this is my own personal safety.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:32 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Ron H: I use to to own an intehra receiver about four years ago. I really enjoyed it. I have no idea how it compares to current day offerings.
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 8:48 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Antenna blues
CuRTis: It sounds like even though the valley is elevated it is low enough that you are unable to pick up the signal. Can you try a longer mast?
Ron H ( 63.26.171.113 ) at 8:46 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
GLOCK
Derb: Funny you mention the SW 40. My other choice is the S&W CS40. I am almost leaning toward it over the Glock because I am not sure if I am comfortable with how the safty works on the Glock. I will need to go see if I can do a demo with it and get a good feel.
What are your thoughts on the Glock type safty vs others? Bear in mind that my wife will use it some at the range to get familar with it but then may go long period of times of not using it. I do not want any accidents due to a unfamilar type saftey.
HT question: Has anyone done a long term demo with the Integra or Tag products?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.230 ) at 8:46 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
... CBS is broadcasting the Final Four + the championship game in HD. Check it out if you can.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.230 ) at 8:43 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Antenna blues
What, the rest of you aren't awake at this hour? I have been unable to properly install a UHF OTA antenna to capture even one of the 9 local digital channels for a friend.
I'm using the highly rated ChannelMaster 4228 witha DTC100. The location is certainly close enough to get a strong reading yet the house is in an elevated valley. Worst of all the guy wants to watch the Final Four B-ball games today. Any tips would be welcome.
AVB ( 64.41.32.85 ) at 8:19 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Quadscan PSA
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1225810988
The last ones went for around $740 and can be upgraded to the latest software. Well under $900 total cost with shipping and the upgrade.
AVB ( 64.41.32.85 ) at 7:19 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
BIG AL: Last post on this for me. Perhaps being the only person on this forum who has been shot and who has shot someone, I disagree about "shooting him in the kneee and he will laugh at you.." If you are shot in the thigh it is something you can live with and pretty much ignore for a while. I know because that is where I took one. If you are shot in the knee, the first reaction is to reach and grab it. This is for two reasons, the first is to try to support yourself and the second is to try and immobilize the bone splinters. I won't get anymore graphic but let me say that you'll use both hands trying to hold yourself together. This is not TV now but real world. Yes, in a few moment after the subject has gone down he will be able to react but by that time you should have removed yourself from danger or finished the job. If the point was to kill then this whole conversation is moot as there are another set of parameters.
The above is for a normal person. If you do the same to someone on dust or crack then you are probably right, they may laugh at you but they WILL go down giving you a major advantage for the next shot if you decide to take it.
Source: 3 years in 3rd Force Service Recon USMC, sniper trained, USMC rifle & pistol team. Vietnam tour, Panama, Desert Storm.
Sorry if I have exceeded the norms here, but this is one case of "been there, done that" where I feel I am one of the most knowledgeable on this forum. You may take what I say anyway you want as I am finished with this subject.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.238 ) at 5:51 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
New Elite DVD Players
Rich: We have a 38A at work. I can check it out and do a review if you wish. It's hooked up to a Sony plasma so I'll just looke for DVD type errors and ignore the shitty display.
Rich ( 205.188.197.179 ) at 2:32 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
DVD Audio / SACD Decoding
All, Is it possable that future Recievers/Seperates could include DVDA and SACD decoders or does it have to decode from the player??
Rich ( 205.188.197.179 ) at 2:22 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Scott Pop, Big Al is Right... It's a good thing i was living at home when i was your age cuz i didn't have 2 nickels to rub together but in those days there wasn't any Home Theater lol. You'll have the HT of your dreams before you know it because imo you're doing everything right...
Rich ( 205.188.197.179 ) at 2:10 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Big Al, My Daughter works weekend nites as a cocktail waitress, so i'm up till she's in G-Nite Pal...
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 2:07 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Rich; Too bad it's so late, or early, depending on your point of view. I have to get up in 4.5 hours! G'nite pal!
Rich ( 205.188.197.179 ) at 2:02 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
New Elite DVD Players
Pioneer finally updated thier site adding the DV-38A and the DV-AX10. The 38A looks very much like the DV-37 but adds the Rosewood side panels which states thier top of the line. The 38A also has a Koool THX logo and the main feature besides Pro Scan is it decodes DVD Audio. list is 2K.
The AX10 has all the features of the 38A plus SACD and possably a few other minor features. Looking at the photo of the AX10 i did not notice "Elite" on the face plate, and it's looks like brushed silver instead of typical gloss black. The list is a Whopping 6K!!! jeesh
www.pioneerelectronics.com
click on Elite home products.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 1:58 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Scott pop; But think of all the money you're saving by not upgrading constantly! Hang in there, things will come around.
BC ( 63.44.237.26 ) at 1:29 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
scott - thanks for the help. Still not there but I am too tired to keep messin with it. Talk to yall later.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 1:15 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
I don't remember who mentioned self-winding watches stopping when not worn. There's a jewelry box on the market with watch holders that occasionaly vibrate to keep those watches in tune, and in time. Aparently, a long period of stillness is very bad for this type of watch. At least that's what the maker of the jewelry box would have us beleive. Also someone mentioned a waterproof watch good to a depth of 2000 ft. What purpose would that serve? I suppose if you dropped your watch overboard, and the bottom was only 1800 ft., the watch could be salvaged with a submarine.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.160 ) at 1:12 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
BIG AL: I'd love an FP, the direct views are just too dang small now... but I can't afford it... Heck, I can't even afford a direct view at this point
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.160 ) at 1:11 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
BC: hmmm... not real sure since I don't use USB ports except for mice (and avoid the Windows thing too)... But my guess is to go into either your USB 'setup' stuff, or go into Settings -> Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager and play with the settings under Universal Serial Bus Controllers
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 1:06 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Curtis; ?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 1:05 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Darian; I didn't want to make it sound like she's nasty on the phone, but we've had a rash of rude telemarketers. All it takes is "Is this the Al Jearriesh residence?" to set her off.
BC ( 63.30.41.4 ) at 1:02 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
scott - how do you force a device to use a certain com port. My adapter is on com2 but I think it needs to be com1.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 1:01 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
It's interesting how our HTs are changing. A few years ago 80% of us figured a FP would never be possible. Now 80% of us either already have FP, or are thinking, "I think I can swing this FP!"
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 12:56 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
I get a different take on the term "take a man down, not just piss him off". The use of a gun on a human being for any reason, is a "last chance for survival" decision. The ONLY reason to shoot at someone should be to kill them before they kill you, BECAUSE you KNOW they are going to kill you. Shoot them in the knee, and they will laugh at you as they pull the trigger. Unlike most of you, I have needed a gun. Luckily the sound of my pump 12 ga. racking, caused them to think differently, and I believe saved my life. A gun IS a crime deterrent! Discussing bullet type, purpose, result, choice, etc... is no different than discussing nail size, type, purpose, choice, etc... in carpentry. Knowing which tool, and how to use it in a given situation, is a necessity.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:56 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Gar: I'm pretty interested in the sony fp as well.
What is a screen going to cost me? anyone?
My mind will be working as to how I can convince my wife that I can get it and still get two more through college.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.186 ) at 12:42 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Why do I always miss the good discussions??!!
RonH; Gun choice is a lot like speaker choice. How it fits, safety type, etc... is important. For my big hand a Sig fits nice (very accurate), or a Desert Eagle. Glocks are nice (Il. State police went to Glock .40)too, but small for my hand. I don't like the trigger safety. Carry gun; I use a Colt Officers model .45. Very small frame, short barrel, easy to hide, single action, reliable, big wallop.
BC ( 63.44.237.248 ) at 12:12 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
Serial to USB help
Scott "popcorn": I did check that also. I have been searching remotecentral and it seems that it won't work unless it is connected to com1 and the others are disabled. I am going to try that now.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.160 ) at 12:05 AM EST Saturday, March 31, 2001
cai: Though I'm not an *official* EE, I'll toss some ideas out on the table. One thing that can be done is to use a step-up transformer to increase the voltage (decreasing current) to have a higher voltage to work with, and then regulating it. Capacitors only work for DC voltages (if you put a capacitor in an AC line, it changes the waveform so that it's no longer AC... plus, you'd have to have diodes to keep the capacitor from blowing up, which would then make the output DC anyway)... Another option is to have (if they make such a beast) an electrically-controled variable transformer... I think I have heard that something of the sort exists, and if so, the a small control voltage circuit could be used to "tune" the transformer for the proper voltage output. simple filters can be used to clean up the AC signal.
I look forward to seeing some other comments/posts/flames about this
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.160 ) at 11:58 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Serial to USB help
BC: Did you try making sure the Pronto was "awake" and in the home panel? Another thing you might try is rebooting. Windows always likes a fresh start whenever new hardware is added or you change something, like changing your background picture...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.160 ) at 11:56 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Joe: If you ever get him to go out there again, take a squeeze bottle of honey... Maybe you can pick up two cute girls (as per the TV commercial)
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.160 ) at 11:54 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
The question we should be asking ourselves is.. are any of these watches you guys are mentioning able to take a 7.62mm high powered rifle bullet to the face and keep working?
BC ( 63.44.237.248 ) at 11:52 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Serial to USB help
Can anyone help me with a pronto upload problem. My laptop only has USB connections so I bought a keyspan serial to USB convertor (usa-19w). The posts on remote central said this model worked. When I plug everything in, prontoedit says "pronto not connected or not responding". Any ideas? I have checked the obvious things. Device manager shows all to be ok. Could I have damaged the serial cable for the pronto?
Derb ( 199.174.2.98 ) at 11:15 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
GLOCK
RonH: Own Glock 17, I highly recommend. Triger safety only, so kind of strange at first. Use Hydra-Shock for home defense, won't carry to far through walls and over into other rooms or nieghbors. Thinking about also getting my carry permit. Could not get my hand around the Glock 10mm or I would have purchased it. Thinking about Benelli M4 super 90 shot-gun for home defense, new on the market and not it stores yet. This would free up the Glock to carry, kind of big though. Might get something with a smaller frame. Always liked the S&W 40 cal.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 10:42 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Joe: I have seen the add showing this unit, I believe it was at the 800.com site. Ever since some magazines reviewed some of the Monster better priced power surge protection units and found them wanting, for the price charged, I have been leary of buying anything Monster. If you are interested in this unit, I suggest that you look at the design and specifications and compare them to the PS units. The PS units do what the Monster unit claims to do and I think cost somewhat more.
I belief that there are some electrical engineers in this forum and could probably explain the process that is involved in taking current, storing it and releasing it at a constant rate without variation in voltage. At best I think it takes fairly hefty, read heavy, transformers, capacitors, etc.
Joe ( 205.188.200.146 ) at 10:30 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
A couple of years back I started hunting in a new area. I spent some time scouting and found a nice place to sit. I took a friend up and we dropped off supplies at camp. We then hiked the distance out to my spot. We hung out for awhile sat quietly and drank a few beers.
I went off aways to piss and came out to the trail to see him hunched over. Of course I though someting was wrong. He was staring at some Bear tracks. Man was he mad, to think I forgot to mention there was Bear in the area. I had a rifle, but all he had was a cooler full of beer. No biggie, but the look on his face, I laughed on and off the whole drive home. Every now and then I bring it up, he still gets mad I didn't tell him.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:30 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
I am not a huge watch fan but I do have two watches I am quite fond of. My daily watch is a 9 year old TAG 6000 and my dress watch is a hand me down Cartier from my grandfather -- very sentimental.
Joe ( 205.188.200.146 ) at 10:22 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
I see Monster is out with a Power Conditioner, steep price at $1499.
http://www.800.com/prod.asp?p=4610&sf=8
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 10:13 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Kieran: I would also have to add (just replying to you because you mentioned it) that the "learn what you're doing first" stance should also apply to anti-gunners... Frankly, if they had a clue as to what a gun actually is, what it does, how it works, and who *really* uses them (at the range, etc), rather than being "a scary-looking killing machine", then most anti-gunners wouldn't be anti-gunners
On another note, I guess you don't want to ride the MTB trails around here if you are in teh region if I'm going to be toting a can of mace to keep the sabre-tooth tigers at bay? (actually, cougars do make me nervous, but I haven't carried anything designed specifically to defend myself when hiking or riding)
Joe ( 205.188.200.146 ) at 10:12 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Darian
You comments on farscape perked my intrest so I watched it tonight. I am a little behind, can you summerize what is going on in the show.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 10:04 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran: You are just two months too late. Castrol, the car oil company, was running a promotion where if you bought a case of their synthetic oil and sent the proof of purchase, they would send you a watch with your favourite football team logo on it. I bought two cases and I am now the proud owner of a NY Jets and a NY Giants watch. I missed out on the Buffalo Bills.
Curtis can attest to the handsomeness of the watches and their general appeal to nubile nymphs in heat.
Back a few years ago I bought a Rolex Sea Dweller. This watch is good for 2000 feet under water. I paid about $475 at a duty free shop. Well, this watch has never seen more than 6 feet of water above it. It has been manhandled, or is it personhandled, any which ever way and to my amazement it is still working. A new one now costs about $4000. Well, lets just say that if I lose it it may be the last Rolex that I will ever own.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 9:51 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran:
Gar ( 169.207.194.4 ) at 9:30 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Sony 10HT
Well the damn thing sold!! Sold it a hour ago...
Gar ( 169.207.194.4 ) at 9:25 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Screens
Wild Bill: What kind of price can you get me on a GreayHawk 92" 16:9? Or there smallest size which I believe to be 88"? Looking for the felt border to reduce overscan. Thanks
garcom@execpc.com
Gar ( 169.207.194.4 ) at 9:21 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
BC: Doh!!!! Boy was I off by a few states... He is in KS, Lenexa, the name of the company is Associated Air Products. He is the one selling the 10HT and a few other products, he is the owner of the company and makes some good coin and is constantly upgrading. He bought a Seleco Millenium
SVD 800D CRT.
AVB ( 64.41.33.57 ) at 9:19 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
16x9 Stewart screen PSA
http://www.soundandcinema.com/sale.html
Wild Bill ( 12.91.132.103 ) at 9:15 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Golf question... size matters?
RickMTB: Well, yeah, if you are a tall guy then you need clubs with longer shafts. Don't we all want longer shafts? LOL!!!!!
Degrees...do you hit the ball high or low? You can't just generalize and choose a loft. I tend to hit the ball very high and very long. I use a Taylor Made mid-size driver with an 8 degree loft. Most guys can't hit one of these off of the ground. I can turn it around a dogleg or carry trees from the tee if the aren't too high. If you have trouble carrying a decent flight path with the ball and don't hit it high enough then you want to add more loft. Hope this helped.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.47 ) at 9:06 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Gar: Tag Heuer... another watch that requires a thick arm. The Longines and Movadas are more my size (though I like to see numbers on my watches)
Gar ( 169.207.194.4 ) at 9:03 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran: Watch Collector here.. I have 1 Omega/ A couple of Tags and Longenes(sp) that is very old a couple of ESQ Watches and a Movado. Only jewerly I will put on....Well besides my Wedding Ring.
Gar ( 169.207.194.4 ) at 9:00 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
10th degree is a good average loft.
Gar ( 169.207.194.4 ) at 8:59 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Golf question... size matters?
RickMTB: Callaway Big Bertha ERC II. This club is a Rocket Launcher..... I was at the course today and was averaging between 270 and 320 Yards with this thing. Need to get used to it, my slice started to come
back after the second bucket of balls..... Now my back is killing me..... Go figure...... Doh!!!! Also Try the Titlest 975 and don't forget to try the new Titlest V1 Golf balls.
Gar ( 169.207.194.4 ) at 8:57 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
Darian: here is the guys E-mail, his name is Greg Holden....
gholden@aap-kc.com
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.47 ) at 8:46 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran: yopu got mail (Curtlo is a builder to investigate... the guys is supposed to be tall).
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.47 ) at 8:44 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Golf question... size matters?
Actually, at the range I determined it actually does. I borrowed everyone elses's oversized driver's and not only did I feel more confident I blasted the ball longer too. My metal woods (a decent set of Wilsons) are 10-12 years old at least, before the move towards oversize, exotic metals, etc.
So... golf gurus, what the least expensive way to replace them. Good golf club discounters and "trade" sites would be much appreciated... also, loft on the driver. Seems they have 9 degree, 10 and more. Advice?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 8:44 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
I'm outta here for tonight folks... later!
AVB ( 64.41.33.234 ) at 8:44 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Kieran
Kieran: Sorry about that. Maybe a little over zealous in one of the 4 areas I consider myself to know more then the average person. HT, Guns, 1964-1979 Pontiacs and networking.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 8:44 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
RickMTB: what's your email addy? I wanted to run some MTB frame questions by ya. I'm starting to get REALLY serious this time. I'm for sure going to buy a new bike this summer, and want to start really researching it now. Custom steel hardtail is what I'm looking for. Click my name to email me.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 8:42 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Just thought I'd add this... in general I really respect and agree with AVB's stance on guns and gun use.... i.e. "the learn what you're doing first" premise. He's said some things about guns in the past that I really admire. He's also made posts in the past describing how well a certain type of bullet rips through body parts, that seem inappropriate here.
Let me try to clarify. I'm not offended (said that already) but it's inappropriate. I wouldn't get offended by very dirty "locker room" talk either, as I've dished out my fair share. However, I wouldn't talk like that here. When you talk about guns in general it seems fine to me. When people talk about using guns (or rounds) for killing and maming people, it seems inappropriate to me. But hey, I'm just one member, and if most people are okay with it, then fine by me. As I said there's a difference between offensive and inappropriate. (at least in my mind there is).
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.47 ) at 8:39 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran: I dislike thick-looking watches, prefering thin watches (like my current Skagen. I also like the older designs like the Hamilton watches. I would never get a Rolex... don't even think they look good, even IF I were to spenf that much on a watch.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 8:32 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Kieran
Joe: If you did not like my answer and suggesting a .40 or larger " Oh Well" I answered a question. I also stated that I respect a persons right to choose to or not to own a gun.
I also respect that right. I never said anything to the contrary. My only purpose in the posts I've made was to say that I can't relate to people who seriously believe that the NEED a gun in order to be safe. Unless you're a cop, soldier, or gang member, it doesn't make sense. See Winston's post for more verbage on this oppinion.I missd the kill him and the yadda yadda yadda part of my post, please feel free to direct me to where I posted that.
Um... "yadda yadda yadda" is usually meant in the same manner as "etc" and "so on and so forth" and other such expressions. I wasn't quoting you directly, if I were, I'd have used the quote function as I've used here. I also never said that you said the words "kill him." What I did say was that I infered from "take a man down" to mean kill him, or come close to killing him. If all you really want to do is take him down, then AVB's approach of taking out a knee would suffice, without the need for a "man stopping" caliber, I would think.If a comment about guns offends someone, they must not watch the news or read a paper, that would make them cry.
Did I ever say I was offended? Hey, I enjoy violent films as much as the next guy... I play Unreal Tournament at home, and I enjoy shooting guns at a range once in a while (don't own any so friends have to take me). As I said before, I just have trouble relating to people who, when buying a gun, really consider who well it can "take a man down" or what kind of caliber will "blow a hole the size of a double fist through flesh."
Maybe I over reacted to your post Joe. Sorry 'bout that. Having read AVB's most recent post though... (part of which I quoted above) damn, now see, that's the type of stuff I really don't want to read here on the HTOC forum. JMHO. Again, it's not that I'm really offended per se, I mean, I read and watch violent material all the time, I just don't think it's apporpriate here. But that's just me! I'm not going to condemn anybody or anything.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 8:24 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
AVB: hehe... I didn't figure out all the words, but I get the gist... True, not a joke to 'agree with'.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 8:21 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Kieran: I just replied to you because it was your posts that I read and wanted to reply to... No trying to rile you up... So, tell me about bears
plinking is where you take your gun out into the field and shoot at anything and everything that is safe (and legal) to shoot at... This includes old rusty tin cans, and any other junk you can find laying around (that won't cause the bullet to riccochet)
AVB ( 64.41.33.234 ) at 8:20 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Kieran: Plinking....shooting at cans or bottles. Reminds me of this joke. NOTE: The following is not my personal opinion.
A guy walks into a gun store and asks to see some guns so he can shoot at some cans. The owner shows him a 25 rim fire.
"Naw, you got something bigger" the guy asks.
"How about this 32" the owner replies.
"Looks pretty good but I want something more" the guy says.
Next comes out a 38, still not enough. Same with a 9 mil, 41 and 45.
Exasperated the owner takes out the last handgun he has, a 44 automag.
"Now this is more like it!" the guys says. "I'll take it".
Curious, the owner says, " I thought that you just wanted to shoot some cans?"
"I do" says the guy. ****-cans, ****-*****-cans, ******-***-cans.
You can guess the punchline. If not email me and I'll send it.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.9 ) at 8:13 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
New Subject
Scott "popcorn": LOL
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 8:13 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Yet Another OT ??
Here's a different one. I'm looking for a calender-type program. Something that I can customize to display different occasions...birthdays, bill due dates, etc. I know that AOL has something similar but I don't have AOL.
Thanks for any input.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 8:08 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Scott "popcorn": You're trying really hard to rile me up, aren't you? It won't work though. Read all my posts on this subject again, and maybe you'll see what it is about what you just wrote that makes me wonder, "why the hell is Scott posting this to ME of all people?"
As for going out in the wilderness, if that's the way you feel about how to deal with wildlife, then remind me to not go backpacking with you ever. You apparently don't know much about wildlife, especially bears.
Finally, what's plinking?
AVB ( 64.41.33.234 ) at 8:07 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Scott "popcorn": Caliber is easy, get the biggest you can comfortably handle. Modify the rounds you use for different situations. If you want to kill then something like BAT rounds will blow a hole the size of a double fist out of flesh. If you want to stop someone then saftey slugs work just fine and provide good knock down with large calibers. Hollow points don't work well with a 45 because they are to0 slow but are just fine with a 40 or 41. No matter what you use practice, practice, practice until you know what you are doing and can actually hit what you are aiming at.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 8:02 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Robert: I did mention the 007 Omega... it's called the "Seamaster" and it's the one they redesigned a few years back. I still like it, but prefer the older, more classic design.
I have to say that my Seiko is one of the toughest watches I've ever owned. I've worn it skin diving, rock climbing, whitewater kayaking, backpacking, working on the car, to formal dinner events, just about everywhere. The crystal has ONE small scratched area, and that happened while I was taking my kayak down to the river over some slipery rocks. I slipped, fell, and landed with my left wrist flat against a fairly jagged rock... AND the kayak laying on top of my wrist. I swore to my self that the crystal had broken, but the things still going strong! I've had this watch for about 5 years now, so for $150, I think it was well worth it -- like one $30 Casio per year!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:58 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
So, what do ya'll think of THX EX?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:58 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Kieran: The problem with caliber choice is... do you want to kill the guy? Which brings up a really huge set of questions. The ideal answer would be "no". But then you have to think... "will he sue for his injury?" (yes, it DOES happen)... "will he return, with a vengeance?"... and so forth. Frankly, I don't want to kill anyone, but at the same time, it depends on the situation.
As for going out in the wilderness, if I were to come face to face with a mad bear (yeah, it's highly unlikely, but in the event..), I'd want some sort of protection. Getting ripped to shreds by bear claws is not a fun idea... Though, there are pepper sprays for these types of situations
Last, but not least, "plinking" is a very fun, and addicting sport. Especially when done in the right settings (namely, not a public area that other people will be nearby (I don't mean in the line of fire! )... Farmland around here is a very good choice. Lots of ponds with dams that make great backstops...
BAGMAN ( 64.45.219.92 ) at 7:50 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Even more important...
T-Man: IMO, caliber would be important. Slop in a jock, equals endangered rocks!!
Joe ( 64.12.104.24 ) at 7:48 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Gasgeek,
I seen that one. I really enjoy that mag. It's not much on reviews but fun to look at. I often read the equipment list and try to imagine having that kind of money.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 7:48 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
RickMTB where are you?
Anybody know RickMTB's email addy? He's not on the members list (for SHAME!)
Joe ( 64.12.104.24 ) at 7:46 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Even More important
T-Man, you might want to check inot a Small caliber for that
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:43 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
clock
BAGMAN: hehehehe
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:40 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
New Subject
Ron H: "PoP" Lets discuss direct vs dipoles for the rear. LOL
I think that would be an EXTREMELY bad subject to turn to right after talking about guns.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:39 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
AVB: You have e-mail (I forgot to sign it )
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:34 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
BC: I will say there was an interesting tidbit in the American Rifleman (I think it was last month)... You know, in Great Britain, they have banned handguns, and that bobbies have not had the need to carry guns ever... Now some bobbies are carrying Walther P990's... Gee, and I thought they banned guns! (just a hint that banning guns doesn't mean the criminals will give up theirs... instead, "gun ban" means "civilians unprotected and can't shoot back". )
Robert ( 63.11.58.7 ) at 7:32 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran: not to mention the 007 Omega,,nice watch,,,,,I should have bought that Tag i wanted at Costco 5 years ago for $500,,it's now $1400 at best,,,,,,damn,,procrastination hurts. I'd love a nice watch,but I break them all soon thereafter.
T-Man ( 24.48.225.13 ) at 7:31 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Even more important...
Evening all: I am thinking about picking up a jock to carry "me" when needed and to support me at home. Any thoughts on jocks?
AVB ( 64.41.32.148 ) at 7:30 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
mini-vaca
Tony C: Does WaterTower Place have any inventory left?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:28 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Eratta
Winston aka the Spleen: Pop gun?
Heh.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 7:25 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Kieran: Those duties are for Cops and Paramedics. JMHO.
The only problem with that statement is that it takes the cops from oh, 3 to 30 minutes to get to a location, when you just might need help in more like 3 seconds.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.131.87 ) at 7:22 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
I just setup (partially) the Meridian and I am listening to music. I think I've just had a religious experience. I had no idea my speakers could sound like this.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:10 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
mini-vaca
Hey I'm spending the night downtown with the wife and son. Did museums and some shopping.
I stopped at the Sony store on the magnificent mile, to get a demo of the HT10. I never saw it before. This was tough to do with the wife in tow, but the kid was on my side.
So, I just walked in and asked if they had one and if they could do a demo. Sure! Someone called for a kid named John and John grabbed a remote.
He pressed a button on the Leviton wall switch and a Stewart screen came down and a section of the metalic wavey ceiling started to lower. The first thing I noticed was that the screen was very wrinkled along the right side, but as it turned out, it didn't matter.
Next thing I noticed was that they only had a S-video in the HT10.
While John was busy tryng to turn the thing on, I asked him why no component input. John just shrugged, because he couldn't get the thing going. I just told John, thanks anyway and walked out.
Nike town was next door and we did some serious damage. Actually, we did some damage everywhere.
BTW, I told the wife that I WILL have a FP one of these days.
BAGMAN ( 64.45.219.92 ) at 7:01 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
clock
Requirements of a clock. The size of the numbers. You know if a guy is my house and wants to know the time, don't give me Roman numerals,give me plain old numbers cause I've got to give him accurate time. I've got to nail the time exactly and tell him it is 4:03. Not something like "hey it's around 4:00", all that does is piss him off. I think 1" numbers will do the job.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:52 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Speaking of Money No Object
Speaking of money: The gal who has cut my hair for the last 15 years is always house sitting for a couple of different people who live in Palos Verdes. (Read high end) (She used to live in Howie Long's guest house.)
She was always talking about the great whole house system and home theaters that were in this one place that she stays at a lot. I figured they were pretty cool because she was describing Crestron and I figured some ML's in there from her description. I went into get my hair cut the other day and she says "Have you ever heard of a magazine called Audio-Video Interiors?" I said yeah, why? "Well, the house I stay at is in there this month. You should look it up."
Well I did. It's in last months issue. The one with the Portland Trail Blazer's house. I believe they refer to it as a California Spanish Mediterranean or something like that. $1.4 million worth of HT, etc. Twin CRTs, PRO710-HD, ML's, M&Ks, "Holy Shit Batman!" Anyway take a look.
If you're interested, the house if for sale. 16 million. 18 mil if you want it furnished, including the HTs.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.100 ) at 6:35 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran: I have a Tag that I got about 8 years ago. I got it just before they became hot. Mine was $350 and the next year it was $1200. It keeps better time that any Rolex and it works for me.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.100 ) at 6:32 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Darian: I sell Stewart. Let me know the size and I'll get you the pricing.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.100 ) at 6:25 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Wild Bill
Joe: One center is for the back to fill in the area. Since the room is so wide and the rear speakers will have to be in the corner (the room is doubling as a living room) and the owner has so much freaking money it isn't funny AND IMHO the system is only for the Jones factor, etc., etc., etc.
AVB: I agree with your assessment of the Meridian digital speakers. While they are pleasing I'd rather have other brands.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.100 ) at 6:22 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Carlos: Is there a reason that you only seem to chime in when you deem a post or topic offensive or you have determined that someone has used a word that is not politically correct or that you have deemed racially motivated or offensive? Just wondering. We talk about a lot of topics here and if you don't want to participate then don't, there is no need for unnecessary criticism. Just because people are different from you or have a different way of talking or thinking it doesn't mean they are wrong or paranoid. I will not own a gun but I do not begrudge another citizen of this country his rights, beliefs or valid reasoning. Regards.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:22 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Once to satisfy a customer who wanted unreasonable bass. I went to a pro store and got some Servo Drives for the guy. If its good enough for Disney land... We had to mark the stuff up a little but a happy client... is a happy client! Never... ever forget that. It will kill you and your bussiness if you do.
AVB ( 64.41.32.101 ) at 6:21 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Speakers
Wild Bill: Too bad you don't carry Dunlavy, much better then the Meridian to my ears and they make a hell of a center channel too.
The tax man owes me big this year so I'm going to try to get to Dave Harper's and demo a Rock. If it is a major jump (i.e. worth another $2K to me) I may get one and then call Chuck.
Joe ( 205.188.195.32 ) at 6:18 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Wild Bill
Why use 2 centers, just to cover the width of the theater?
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.100 ) at 6:13 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The Return of the Scaler
AVB: That's great news on the CI scaler. Wait until Chuck Williams digs into that projector and dials it in.
I'd love to use the VMPS but I have to stick with *our* product line. Not that we can't fulfill his needs. It's looks like a full Meridian Digital Theater with 6 Meridian 6000 mains and 2 humungous 5500 centers. The centers way 165 lbs each and look huge on ANY RPTV.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.100 ) at 6:12 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The Return of the Scaler
AVB: That's great news on the CI scaler. Wait until Chuck Williams digs into that projector and dials it in.
I'd love to use the VMPS but I have to stick with *our* product line. Not that we can't fulfill his needs. It's looks like a full Meridian Digital Theater with 6 Meridian 6000 mains and 2 humungous 5500 centers. The centers way 165 lbs each and look huge on ANY RPTV.
Joe ( 152.163.205.78 ) at 6:03 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Watches
I usally try to find the " one left" maybe without a box or end of the modle, $10 or so. I must have busted 7 in the last 5 years working on machines. Smashing the face of them. If it tells time and comes out of the shower its good for me.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 5:57 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Ron H: Watches, to me, are like sunglasses. What's the point in spending a ton of $$$ on them? They'll either get lost or broken.
Joe ( 152.163.205.78 ) at 5:57 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Kieran
If you did not like my answer and suggesting a .40 or larger " Oh Well" I answered a question. I also stated that I respect a persons right to choose to or not to own a gun.
I said
If you are going to use it to carry and home defense you want to consider a caliber that will take a man down and not piss him off. In my opinon a .40 or a .45 is the size to go with. My next purchase will be a .45
"
I missd the kill him and the yadda yadda yadda part of my post, please feel free to direct me to where I posted that.
If a comment about guns offends someone, they must not watch the news or read a paper, that would make them cry.
So we can continue this or drop it, it's your call.
AVB ( 64.41.32.101 ) at 5:54 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Power
JBC: You have email too.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 5:52 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
It's Friday and I'm outta here
Gasgeek:Isn't it about time you got out of those wet clothes and into a dry martini?
:Ron H and AVB: Don't shoot anyone on the way home tonite! (jkjkjkjk!!!)
Everybody: Have a great weekend!
The Spleen has left the building..............
johnbr ( 24.112.158.228 ) at 5:47 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
sub
Got the drivers for my super sub that I am going to make.The thing that I do not like is the 64.19 duty and 67.36 for broke fee.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:28 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
AVB: You have e-mail. Please let me know whether you end up grabbing this unit.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:21 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Winston: An addendum to cars at the beach. Since with the new job, I don't currently have a work car to drive home. I started driving the wife's 95 Olds LSS to work. She started driving my old 87 Toyota Corolla FX commuter car that I drove downtown for years. For the last year it literally sat outside across the street from the beach. We started it and moved it twice a week for street sweeping.
It's got severe cancer. A couple of big holes in the hatchback and the rain gutters are pretty rusty too. It runs great, so the wife decided she'd drive it for a few months because it's paid for and very economical to drive despite looking like hell. The bottom line was she was going around a corner after the big rain storms last month. She heard a weird sloshing noise. She started digging around in the back end and discovered that the spare tire well was filled with water. I told her it was a portable jacuzzi just like the big limo's. I went out and emptied it, along with a waterfilled taillight housing.
Needless to say, the next week, she had a new car.
AVB ( 64.41.32.101 ) at 5:12 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
PSA - PowerSequencer 120
JBC: Looking for mail on your Sequencer deal, send it when you can please.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.221 ) at 5:08 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Kieran: I used to wear nice watches at one time but somehow got sidetracked and now buy the $30.00 digital throw-a-ways. Go figure I will spend untold amounts on HT gear but I have became cheap when it comes to a watch.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:07 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Kieran/Winston: Yeah, Curtis has got 50 more ponies than me though. I actually had my eye on an identical 98 with only 5000 miles. I say identical, because it was an EX, but it was only a 150 HP 4 cylinder with 15 inch wheels. I actually had the wife drive it first and it was absolutely flawless for $1500 less. She was ready to sign for up for it after a test drive. I said, I want you to test drive the V6. She said, I just drive around town, so this is fine. I said, just drive it so you know for sure. She drove half a block and said, I'll take this one.
I've always shied away from cars everyone has. Kind of an ego thing, but after being around this car for awhile, I see why everyone has one.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.221 ) at 5:04 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Kieran:I am not upset with anyone either. My "jeeeez" comment was not directed at anyone, it was just my realization how strong both sides of this subject feels and maybe the debate needed to end, at least on my part.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:41 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Honda
Winston/Gasgeek: Hey, Curtis' new car is a Honda too! (well, sort of... in the same way a Vette is a GMC...)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:40 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Seriously though...
Any of you guys into nice watches? I prefer the "divers" style of watch... rugged looks that can also go nicely with a suit, if necessary. Right now (since I'm not rich yet... ) I wear a $350 Seiko Divers Automatic. I got it for $150 brand new at a store that was going out of biz. It's got a synthetic sapphire crystal, 21 ruby movement, waterproof to 200m. My dream watch is a stainless steel Rolex Sub-Mariner. I used to really like the Omega Seamaster Automatic, but they changed the styling drastically about 4 years ago, and I don't like it as much anymore. It's still nice though, and I'd take one if it were offered! I still prefer Omega to Rolex though on principle, because Omega is every bit as good as Rolex (IMHO) but they don't charge nearly as much! Plus they made the watch that the Astronaughts wore into space, and that's just too cool! (I think that one was the "Speedmaster" model).
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 4:36 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Honda
Gasgeek: Major congrats on the new car! My last car was a Honda and I wish I had never sold it. Owning a Honda is like owning an appliance - just plug it in and it goes forever. "Honda - drinks like a lady and runs like a dream!"
*** It's amazing what the salt air does to cars when you live across the street from the beach***
We should all have such problems........! : )
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:31 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Winston aka the Spleen: I feel pretty much the exact same way. We may not agree about DD vs. analog, but we agree on this! Another friend I had in so.cal was also a gun owner/user. He used to go out camping and hunting and exploring a lot in the deserts and mountains of so.cal. He said he almost always brought a gun (of course he did on the hunting trips but ALSO on the non hunting trips.) One reason he claimed was for defense against bears and other wild, possibly hostile animals. I just shake my head even now just thinking about that sort of mentality. Anybody who feels they NEED a gun to get by in the wilderness shouldn't be there in the first place.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:22 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
clock
BAGMAN: ROTFLMAO!!!
If you're going to carry it, AND want it as a back up, I recommend an automatic wrist clock. They don't require batteries, so you'll know it will always work. Problem is, if you leave it at home for a while, the spring will wind down and you'll have to shake it up a bit.
Seiko makes a nice diver's model for about $300, but it's a little bulky. You wouldn't want to wear it to a formal dinner. If you need snazz, I like the Omega Seamaster... but then we might have to rename you BONDman, instead of Bagman, as that's what Bond wears. You could always go all out and get a Rolex Sub-Mariner. This is the ultimate, goes-with-you anywhere clock. It's pricey, but you'll have THE BEST. I prefer stainless steel to gold, but YMMV.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 4:19 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Winston: TGIF to you too my friend. The wife's out of town, but folks are coming over for Mexican takeout, strong drink and movies tonight. The rest of the weekend will be about recovering and polishing and waxing the cars. It's amazing what the salt air does to cars when you live across the street from the beach. Got to keep them waxed.
With all the talk of the hot new cars on here, I was afraid to even mention that I picked up a car for the wife a couple of weeks ago. No Acura, Ferrari, Audi, Lexus, Infinity or Porsche. Just a super clean 98 Honda Accord EX-V6. 22K miles and completely spotless. The whole package. Leather, CD, 16" wheels, climate control, etc. Never had a Honda before. After looking at every used car in the South Bay, I bought the Accord on sight.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 4:15 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Ron H, others:Jeeeez I just asked for some info from members who know about guns. I am sorry if I opened a can of worms.
Gun talk in and of it self I don't think will set people off... what got me going (just a little, as I'm not offended or upset right now) was the comment that you need a .40 cal in order to make sure that the guy "goes down" ... you don't want to "just" piss him off, you want him down (i.e. dead or close to it, yada yada yada...) these kind of comments just seem a little extreme to me. That's JUST my feeling though. Everybody's different. I know you didn't make these comments, I was just telling you which comments were enough to make me want to comment back.
Re. the rules or lack thereof... we talk about cars, sports, travel, home mantanence... these things never seem to cause problems. But when we talk about people dieing, i.e. gun talk, or death penalty for a teen ager, or whatever, tempers seem to flare, and comments are made that offend (i.e. "paranoid" or "race" or whathaveyou). Do I think we need defined rules? NOPE. But we are self described as "self-policing" regarding OT posts. Personally, I'm one of the most easy-going people you'll ever meet as far as what it takes to truly offend me. Usually my participation in conversations like this is just because I enjoy debate, not because I'm actually offended or want to change somebody's viewpoint. However, some of the topics can (and have) truly and deeply offended people here.
Do I have a point here? NOt really... this was just basically a pointless commentary to put some thoughts on the board. Consider them if you like, ignore them if you like.
BAGMAN ( 64.45.219.92 ) at 4:13 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
T-Man: You're in good form today. Btw,how did you know Ron H has a man-eating gator, named Hugh?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 4:10 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Derb: If you are still interested in the Ovation Plus upgrade...
cnichol@rcn.com
BAGMAN ( 64.45.219.92 ) at 4:09 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
clock
Afternoon All
I am thinking about picking up a clock to use as a carry when needed and a back up at home. Any thoughts on clocks.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 4:08 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Ron H: I am looking into the price of shifting my system to FP. As 10HTs drop in price I start to concider them. With the 10HT must go the GrayHawk. I was wondering what the pricing was like and how big a screen I could go to. All this will need to be compared with the Philips i was thinking about. My room would be well suited to FP but I am not sure that I am... you know???
Ron H ( 63.232.94.202 ) at 3:59 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Darian:If you have any particular questions on the GrayHawk shoot away. I have had mine now for a little over three months. My previous screen I had to compare it with was the Da-lite High power and the VuTec.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 3:58 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Gasgeek: Happy Friday to you Sir! Any special plans for the weekend?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 3:57 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
PSA - Philips Pronto TSU 2000
Phillips TSU2000 Pronto with DS100 charger/base. It's in new condition and has been reset to factory defaults. Includes Pronto, charger base, NiMH battery, original boxes, manuals, sealed set of AA batteries and packaging. I've had it for just over 30 days but haven't even used it for an hour (wife doesn't like it).
See picture of actual units (siting on top of boxes):
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1192641&a=10509113&p=45002928
Sell: $300. Price includes shipping within the continental United States.
Please email privately (removing "NOSPAM"): pmbenn@NOSPAMslip.net
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 3:56 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Well as long as everyone's expressing their opinion about guns let me express mine. I have never felt the need to carry a gun when traveling, running errands, etc. for personal protection. If I felt I needed to carry a gun in order to visit a certain area of town I simply would not go to that area.
Personally I think that taking responsiblity for one's own life, being heads-up and constantly aware of potential risk situations and taking action to avoid getting in those situations is much better protection than carrying a gun.
Here in Arizona it's not unusual to see people openly wearing a gun in a holster. I used to hike one of the mountain trails close to where I live and the people displaying guns always seemed openly paranoid and hostile, as if they expected someone to start blasting away at them at any moment. A very unpleasant scene given the otherwise beautiful surroundings.
Maybe some of you will consider my opinion naive but since we're all going to die some day anyway, but I'd rather relax and enjoy the time I've got than spent every waking moment preparing for a shootout.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.202 ) at 3:54 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Darian: I will have to check my ROM version when I get home. It is the latest one. I do not know the price of the GrayHawk as I was a beta tester. AVS was offering a discount on it.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 3:49 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
RonH: What is the current ROM version for the 10HTs? Also, what info do you have on GreyHawks and how bad am I gonna get beat on the price?
Ron H ( 63.232.94.202 ) at 3:44 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
New Subject
"PoP" Lets discuss direct vs dipoles for the rear. LOL
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 3:41 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Winston: Yup! I just stopped by for a lurk. Discovered the HGOF.
Oh well. This is a forum for friends to discuss whatever. Yes, hometheater is the basis, but hell, everyone on here is pretty much an expert on HT or already has a complete system. Questions usually range around should I upgrade or not. New blood on here asking questions is as rare as a set of Bose speakers in this group. We talk cars, guns, sex whatever. We're all friends/aquaintences/family. No one agrees on everything. And if you don't agree with that, maybe I'll shoot y'all!
I don't even own any guns, but respect the right of others to do so.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.202 ) at 3:36 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Carlos: I thought we were allowed to ask for advise and talk about subjects outside the HT subject. If I have broken the rules it is because I did not understand them.
AVB ( 64.41.33.170 ) at 3:29 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Carlos: I always carry. Most of the time legally with a permit but not always. I'm a big believer in being a good shot so you can knee-cap the SOB. The 2 reasons for this are so he doesn't get away and that he won't be able to do it again. I've been carring for over 30 years and taken it out twice. I had to use it once and he didn't get away and can't do it again.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 3:29 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
I read this forum for information about Home Theater, not Guns. If I wanted that I would go to www.nra.org.
AVB ( 64.41.33.170 ) at 3:24 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
PSA - PowerSequencer 120
JBC: Funny you should post this today. Earlier I sent an email to eric asking if there could be a mod done on the Sequencer to put an L14-30 output on it instead of one of the sets of Edisons. Send me the info bud, I may just jump on this. Thanks.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 3:20 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
and our Canadian friends.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 3:19 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
You gotta love the USA.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 3:17 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
JBC: Thanks.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 3:16 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Ron H: You are welceom in my home at anytime!
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 3:14 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
I do not think being concerned for and protecting myself or family, when one recieves a death threats is being paraniod.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 3:13 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
PSA - PowerSequencer 120
If anyone is interested I have a line on a NIB Cinepro PowerSequencer 120 that is being offered at US$540 which is 40% off list. Let me know.
Joe ( 205.188.198.157 ) at 3:13 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Carlos,
Yes actually I am a life member of the NRA as I am sure others are on this board. You and a few others don't seem the need to own or carry a gun that is your right. It is a right that is given to you by the consitution and people that fought and died for this country. Just as it is the right for me or anyone eles who meets legal guidelines to carry and own.
T-man
If I ever have to shoot some Crackhead in my house or trying to carjack me or rob me I want to make sure he is stooped. Because shooting someone with .380 or a 9mm does not always stop them. Hopefully I am never in that position.
Kieran,
Only cops, hell there are just as bad as the crimanals. If they even responde. We had a ambulance run the other night in to the city. The sheriffs Paramedic and the firefighteres would not responde because of the niegborhood. Get it Sheriffs Paramedic is a cop...would not responde. It made the ambulance crew feel real safe.
Lets look at Austrlia, they have been disarmed the law abiding citizens. Violent crime up 300%. Yup disarming that country made it safer. Waht about the 18 or so states with " Must Issue Law" The crime has gone down in every signal state that has a must Issue.
This is a extremmly hot issue now in Michigan. We have passed a law that makes this a must Issue state. The Antigun people have collected 251000 signtures to place it on the ballot in 11/01. However the law has 1m attached to it for law enforcement. This means under law it cannot be a ballot issue. The state antonery general is going to rule on it. She jsut announced her bid for govennor. This will no doubt make her biased in the ruling, otherwise she would hav made it.
I respect anyones choice legely to own or not own weapons. I do however not respect or have any symapty for someone that tells me it's not my right to own.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 3:10 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Paranoia
Carlos: I once briefly dated a girl who told me her father carried a handgun with him everywhere, including the bathroom.... now that's scary.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 3:09 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Jeeeez I just asked for some info from members who know about guns. I am sorry if I opened a can of worms.
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 3:08 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Carlos: I will not bite on that one.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 3:05 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Ron H: Ron, have you ever heard of the word… Paranoia?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 3:01 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
Gar: Can I get in contact with this guy?
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 2:59 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Kieran: I agree that I can not understand why anyone would feel the need to have a weapon with themselves at all times. My job does not require me to carry a gun but there are times or things that happen that may cause me to feel it is warranted Untill one recieves death threats on the phone in the middle of the night or have to go to a deserted industrial center in the middle of the night ........
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 2:52 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
BC:
It is the laws prosecuting. My understanding is that if you use a gun to commit a crime you go away no questions asked.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:52 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Oops
Ron H: I screwed up on who wrote "Gravest Extreme"... the author is Massad F. Ayoob. You can find info on the book here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0936279001/Y2KchaosA/002-1533686-0690459
FWIW, the other author wrote a book called "How to Say 'No' to a Rapist and Live" that is an excellent resource for helping any women in a rape-type situation - extremely practical advice that has worked in real-life situations.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:47 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Why are gun crimes so much lower in Canada? Is it the laws prosecuting, or restricting gun ownership or what? just curious?
Ron H ( 63.232.94.154 ) at 2:39 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Winston aka the Spleen: Thanks for the recomendation. I also do have to sign up for classes and training before I am allowed to carry. I just realized that this subject can be as emotional for soome as religion or politics.
The best solution may be to move to Canada where violent crimes, at least committed with a guns, are almost non existant compared to the large citys here. JBC do you need a room-mate?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:38 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Ron H: I wouldn't be surprised if 1% of the people in the greater LA area suffer from some sort of violent crime. In fact that seems a little low. Have you looked up New York? I bet it's nearly as bad if not worse. My point is, as bad as LA is, I lived there for a long time, and never felt I needed a gun.
I didn't realize that your job required you to carry a gun. If that's the case, then that's different. I'd have a hard time relating to anybody who would carry a gun with them most if not all of the time though, simply because they could. Anybody who feels that is necessary, is going through life with either too much anger, or too much unnecessary fear.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:35 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Carlos: NRA members and HT enthusiasts have a lot in common.
"You can have my remote when you pry it out of my cold, dead hand."
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:30 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Not another gun conversation! Is this the NRA? Where do you people live that you need guns? I've lived in the worst and best neighborhoods in NYC and I've never needed a gun. Most gun touting people are paranoid anyway.
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 2:29 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Kieran: I can not seperate out long Beach fom the LA area but the violent crime rate for LA/Long Beach are is higher than Houston. It is 1017 per 100,000 of population. Does this number mean that 1 out of every hundred people there suffer from a violent crime?
Houston still leads in property crime with LA at only 3313 per 100K population.
Again let me explain that I have no intention of carrying a weapon on my person all the time however there are times when it could be or would be the smart thing to do.YMMV
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:27 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Eratta
Curtis: Congrads on the new ride.
Gasgeek: If you're lurking thanx for the e-mail, you made my day!
Scott "P": Walther + Popcorn = Pop gun?
BUBBA ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:15 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Some sucka cut me off the otha day and he's lucky i didn have my gun. An tha otha good thang bout always carrin a gun is ya never know when ya gonna get hungry and need to shoot a coon for lunch!
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:15 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Ron H: Don't worry, I'm just teasing you. Personally my motto is "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it."
There's a handbook by a guy named Frederick Storaska (sp?) called "In the Gravest Extreme" that is a must-read if you're going to carry - save you a LOT of grief in case you have to pull it - highly recommended.
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 2:11 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Winston aka the Spleen:Do not get me wrong I do not plan to carry all the time. I get late night calls due to a building alarm or have even at times been threatened by a former employee.
There are just times when it may be the wise thing to do. I hope I never have the need to protect myself by using lethal force.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:05 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Ron H: Since I've only been living in SR for 4 months, how about looking up those stats again for Long Beach (specifically) and Los Angeles (in general) which is the area where I lived for the last 10 years.
I've had this conversation (or similar) with a good friend of mine from so.cal, who is a big time gun user. Very good friend, very responsible gun user, INCREDIBLE shot (IMHO). He taught me how to shoot a pistol, and took me shooting (pistol, trap&skeet, and long range target rifle) on numerous occasions. Anyway, as much as I enjoy the sport of shooting, he and I differed on many things regarding gun control. He envied people like you who live in a state that allows one to carry a gun on them. I asked him why, and he said because not only does he feel it's our constitutional right, but that he'd feel safer with one, just as he feels safer having one ready in the house. I asked him how many times in his LIFE (he's 35 and grew up in the Los Angeles area) he could have used his gun if he'd been allowed by the law to carry one. He said never. I know, the answer to that is, "it only takes once." And I agree wholeheartedly... It only takes once for any number of tragic things to happen that could end my life (or someone I could have saved maybe) prematurely. But I don't walk around with a gun, nor do I walk around with a portable defribrulator either (even though I could get a great deal on a nifty Agilent portable defib ). Those duties are for Cops and Paramedics. JMHO.
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:03 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Guns
Kieran: I agree with you about not needing to carry a gun everywhere I go.
Although if I *was* going to carry, I'd make sure it was a shotgun.... blow the bad guy's frikkin' head off!
Winston aka the Spleen ( 63.93.239.9 ) at 2:00 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Happy Friday
Hullo everyone.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 1:43 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
Gar: Where in TX is he located. I did a search for air products but there are a number of companies with that name.
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 1:42 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Kieran:Kieran:CRIME Santa Rosa
----------------------City Stats------ Natl. Avg------. Rank
Violent crime
(per 100K population)--- 357 -------506--------------- 111
Property crime
(per 100K population) 3,614.4---- 4,329 ------------106
CRIME Houston
---------------------City Stats------- Natl. Avg-------. Rank
Violent crime
(per 100K population) 749.1------- 506--------------- 277
Property crime
(per 100K population) 4,452.6 ------4,329------------ 189
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 1:36 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Kieran:CRIME Santa Rosa
City Stats Natl. Avg. Rank
Violent crime
(per 100K population) 357 506 111
Property crime
(per 100K population)
3,614.4 4,329 106
CRIME Houston City Stats Natl. Avg. Rank
Violent crime
(per 100K population) 749.1 506 277
Property crime
(per 100K population) 4,452.6 4,329 189
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:57 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
iScan v2 vs. Pro
Somebody was asking me about the iScan products recently. What's the difference between the various incarnations of the iScan? I know the latest version (is that the pro?) has component inputs, whereas the previous versions only had s-vid and composite. But wasn't there something about the latest version that some people considered a step down from the previous version?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:54 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
BC: Tempting indeed... you took the words right out of my .... uh... fingers, I guess.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:53 PM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
T-Man: I think the point was that anything LESS than a .40 Caliber wouldn't take the criminal down, it would just "piss him off"... i.e. wound, but not stop him.
Whatever. Honestly, when you guys start talking about guns, it boggles my mind how I can get by from day to day without an arsenal packed under my coat. Makes me glad I don't live where ever the heck it is that requires this sort of armament on a daily basis.
Gar ( 169.207.194.30 ) at 11:43 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
BC: Yup at that price it is a steal, and I bought my iScan Pro from the guy, he owns some Company in Texas called Air Products so he has the extra cash to spend so the stuff he sells isn't very old and it perfect shape.
Gar ( 169.207.194.30 ) at 11:42 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Ron H
I have a shot at buying a GreyHawk Screen for $600 actually it is the same size I have, I think or just a tad longer.... For $600 but that doesn't include the frame which is another $300 or $400 with the felt.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:37 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
Gar: OMG, that is so tempting. Wish I had the cash right now.
AVB ( 64.41.33.37 ) at 11:37 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Bio updated for anyone who cares
as above
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 11:35 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
T-Man: LOL
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 11:33 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
cai/AVB: I have not looked at the Sig line. I will do so this evening.
T-Man ( 216.151.67.100 ) at 11:31 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Joe:
"If you are going to use it to carry and home defense you want to consider a caliber that will take a man down and not piss him off."
What the...?
Scenario:
Man breaks into Joe's house.
Joe shoots man.
Man goes down.
Man says: Whoa, that really hurt but hey man no biggie. That was my bad. Thanks for using that .40 caliber. Hey man, would you mind calling an ambulance. By the way, killer HT system man.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 11:29 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
Ron H: I can tell you for a fact that Walther P99s are NICE... I have one Though, they are a bit pricy... I would also like to mention Kel-Tec, because a friend of mine has one. They are nice little guns, as long as you don't mind a spring or two flying out at inopportune moments I think he's been going apeshit over the new Steyrs... M9, etc.
Gar ( 169.207.194.30 ) at 11:28 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Thanks Pop I will send some picks over the weekend, much better pictures with my Digital camera.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 11:26 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Pop
Gar: yup, that's what you do.
Gar ( 169.207.194.30 ) at 11:24 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Big FYI
This is a good deal on a Sony 10HT unit. Guy I know is going to buy a CRT, he also has the Rock which he will be using with his new CRT. He is Selling his Sony 10HT for $3500 and that includes mounting Bracket. Unit has about 260 hours on the bulb and no dust spots or dead pixels. Hell at that price I wouldn't mind having another unit....:) Wishful thinking.... Guy is in Texas.
Joe ( 64.12.105.57 ) at 11:24 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock
Ron,
I tried a Glock, H&K and a Sig. I went with a Sig Pro .40cal. I liked the Glock the sig fired better and felt more natuarl in my hand. The H&K was a nice piece, it was used and is on the Clinton cannot be shipped into the country list. I just was not willing to pay for the H&K.
If you are going to use it to carry and home defense you want to consider a caliber that will take a man down and not piss him off. In my opinon a .40 or a .45 is the size to go with. My next purchase will be a .45
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:04 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
T-Man: LOL!
You know, I did think about making off with some of Ron's gear when I was down there. Damn martin logans wouldn't fit in my carry on though!
Gar ( 169.207.193.64 ) at 10:52 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Pop
If I want to update my bio Page as far as pics go can I send them to you?
Thanks
T-Man ( 216.151.67.100 ) at 10:46 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
Ron H: Meet H., Ron H. Da da dada da...da.....da.
"I am thinking about picking up a Glock 19 to use as a carry when needed...."
What the.....? At first I was trying to figure out in what situations you would need to "carry" based on what liitle I know about you from this forum, but then it occured to me:
1. When you have those Houston HT get togethers I'm sure that they can get out of hand and you may need to plug RickMTB.
2. When pumping out that overflowing pool a hugh man-eating gator could strike.
3. Everyone knows that frequenting those high-end HT stores can be a dangerous business.
4. When watching an exciting shoot-em up movie there's nothing like firing off a couple of rounds to get into the swing of things.
(smiley faces abound)
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 10:38 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
AVB: Thanks for the info
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 10:37 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
Ron H: Only thing I have heard is that Glocks have the safety on the trigger and a lot of people and policemen wind up shooting themselves in the foot when handling them. All other reports say that Glocks are a premium handgun. I take it this is a 9mm. Have you looked into a Sig Sauer 380 caliber or a Walther PPK? Alright, down guys, yes we will have to start calling him - Bond, Ron Bond, if he gets a Walther.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.109 ) at 10:36 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Shampoo via RGB breakout cable to component ins
Darian: Bright flashes eh? Something like the Avia test pattern alternating overscan (from black to white)in the advanced test pattern chapter? I ran this and noticed a very slight picture shift to the right when the tube is asked to display all white. Then again your eyes can play tricks on you.
Does a freeze frame from a good source count & why would I want my nose a few feet from the screen? Relax and enjoy the beautiful picture dude!
AVB ( 64.41.32.148 ) at 10:35 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
Ron H: Glocks are nice but try a Sig. Best pistol I've every put in my hands.
AVB ( 64.41.32.148 ) at 10:34 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
oops
AVB ( 64.41.32.148 ) at 10:34 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The Return of the Scaler
cai: The Rock is $3K until 30 April. I bought my CI used from the AVC classified forum. I really should upgrade my page because the Runco is history and I have an Electrohome 8501LC hanging now.
AVB ( 64.41.32.148 ) at 10:34 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The Return of the Scaler
cai: The Rock is $3K until 30 April. I bought mine used from the AVC classified forum. I really should upgrade my page because the Runco is history and I have an Electrohome 8501LC hanging now.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 10:26 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The Return of the Scaler
AVB: I think that at the AV Forum they are selling the CIs for about $1800 new. The Rock apparently will be selling for about $4000, therefore, I would agree with your assessment on improvement before forking out more dollars. Where did you get your used CI and are you using the Runco for projection?
Ron H ( 63.232.88.197 ) at 10:24 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Glock 19
I am thinking about picking up a Glock 19 to use as a carry when needed and a back up at home. Any thoughts on this gun?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:11 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
the rock
I have been chatting with a guy who lives in my area. He has the rock and is very impressed. He invited me over to check it out so in the next couple weeks after I make it over there, I'll post my impressions. He has an impressive set up, runco CRT, dual 35 mm projectors, etc. Pics are here: http://members.home.net/tvdias/photos2.html
Gar ( 169.207.193.64 ) at 10:09 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Darian: Watched Titan A.E. last night, not a bad flick and the sound is excellent.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:30 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
BigAl: She was fine. All I did was read here the address and she said it was right.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:29 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Shampoo via RGB breakout cable to component ins
CuRTis: Watch something with a bright flash on the screen. Like Armageddon when the move the Hubbel. Also get a few feet from the screen and look at a stationary object.
Report back to me when you can.
Gar ( 169.207.193.64 ) at 9:11 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Anyone see Monster has a Voltage Stabilizer? Seems to be something like teh PS Audio Stuff...... Runs around $1400....
Gar ( 169.207.193.64 ) at 9:09 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
FYI
Guy I know is selling a Sony 10HT with 260 hours on the blub. No Dead pixels and in perfect condition, I think he is going to sell it for under $4000, I will keep you posted when I find out.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 7:56 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Ron H: You have e-mail..
AVB ( 64.41.32.51 ) at 7:14 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The Return of the Scaler
My Crystal Image came back yesterday and I can't say enough good things about AV Source. They sent me an entire new unit even though I had bought my CI used. I only played with the new 960P setting and I find it hard to believe that there is much room for improvement unless you look for exact things. At about $1K used it is a hell of a unit. Even the wife noticed the difference and she thinks everything looks good.
I plan to demo a TAW Rock next month just to see if it is worth considering the next step but it will have to be a major visable difference across the board to get me to spend the extra $$$.
AVB ( 64.41.32.51 ) at 6:28 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
MeridianMeridian...again
Wild Bill: Hook up some of the towers that I am using, 20' spread betweeen them 5-8' out from the back wall. It WILL fill that room. Plus at $22K a pair they should be within the budget for the fronts. There is a VMPS dealer in DC so you can check them out.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:25 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Curtis: Congrats on the new ride. Hope you enjoy it for many years.
AVB ( 64.41.32.51 ) at 6:21 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Trivia source
Gar: Each wrong guess is $3, each right answer is a DVD
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.136 ) at 4:46 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The 6th Day
Kieran: ...which then opens up the Pandora's box of what population of humans the world can sustain, or a smaller, more "natural" number of how many humans in the world is in "balance"... But I think we've already passed that point... I think we need to seriously look at space exploration and colonizing elsewhere if we intend to keep the population growth we now have. (Interesting to think about, huh? I'm not saying we should kill off people or limit births... that just wouldn't be right... but at the same time, I don't want to see the earth inhabited only by humans and no other non-domestic, non-resource animal species.)
Kieran ( 207.214.121.84 ) at 2:42 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Just brought the black beauty home
CuRTis: Cool beans, dude! Can't wait to see that puppy in action! Don't go gettin' a bunch of tickets now, ya hear?
Kieran ( 207.214.121.84 ) at 2:22 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
The 6th Day
Joe: Infertility would be a valliant application of genetic technology... infertile couples could have a baby "cloned" from their genes that would be every bit as much their genetic child as if they conceived it themselves... I see this as an application that MIGHT be used to bring genetic technology used on humans up to the forefront of acceptance in society. However, the question is, where does it end? This could lead to "well, since we're cloning the parents, shouldn't we remove the genes that cause infertility?" The easy answer would be yes, of course! And this could be justified by the fact that if they *didn't* remove those genes, they'd be violating the laws of evolution... an infertile couple 100 years ago would not be able to pass on those genes, so now that we can clone a baby for them, why should we pass the genes on now? However, then this would lead to the question of why should we pass on ANY problematic genes? And this would lead to the Gattica situation, where parents "design" their children. And THAT is a state of affairs with all SORTS of problems and issues. That's all I was getting at. I wasn't trying to make any statement about infertility treatments or anything.
However, I do think a lot about the fact that modern medicine in many ways IS fighting Darwin's theories... while through top notch heath care and healthy diets we have extended the average life expectancy by decades in the last few centuries, at the same time, people who would have never survived in a "survival of the fittest" scenario are surviving and passing on otherwise undersirable genes. I'm not saying it's either right or wrong, I just think its something that's interesting to contemplate. On the flip side, Darwin's theory basically says "survival of the fittest" and that each species' primary goal is to further the survival of their species. If that's the goal, then humans are doing a good job of it, I'd say. While we may be preserving and passing on "undersirable" genes, we're still living longer and healthier as a species than ever before.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.163 ) at 1:00 AM EST Friday, March 30, 2001
Just brought the black beauty home
cai: A 2002 Acura 3.2 TL Type S with DVD based navigation system. As much as I love German cars, this thing was almost a Curtis deal when equipped comparably. Beemers, Benz's and Audi's around here are so common that I wanted something different that didn't say "dot.com" ... if ya know what I mean. Besides, my favorite car was my 87 Legend Coupe, so I wantesd to give them the biz. Even if the profits go to Japan at least the workers in Marysville got some of my money.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.128 ) at 11:18 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Curtis; What Scott said.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.128 ) at 11:17 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Darian; Sorry I was too busy today to check my e-mail. I hope the wife wasn't rude when you called. She assumes anybody that calls, that she doesn't know, is a telemarketer.
Gar ( 169.207.193.208 ) at 10:54 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
DVD Players........
Anyone seen or heard the new Panasonic Progressive Scan DVD Players? Or even the new 5 Disc Harmon Kardon Progressive Scan unit. I wonder what they are using for a Progressive scan chip? DVDO or something better or worse?
Gar ( 169.207.193.208 ) at 10:49 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
MeridianMeridian...again
Wild Bill: What Dynaudios did they have in the setup?
Gar ( 169.207.193.208 ) at 10:46 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Tony C: Hey Tony that be the same size house we have! 3400sq excluding basement also...
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 10:43 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Just brought the black beauty home
CuRTis: I missed the posting where you mentioned the kind of car that you were buying; an archiving error prevented me from seeing all the messages. So, what is the black beauty?
Gar ( 169.207.193.208 ) at 10:43 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Trivia source
AVB: How much do I owe you for my Guess? THanks
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.30 ) at 10:34 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Just brought the black beauty home
CuRTis: Great news about the car... I guess now you have a ride to take you and your cargo to the FedEx place
Robert ( 63.11.42.140 ) at 10:34 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Runco DLP
I had to stand almost 15 feet away before the pixels "disappeared" Maybe sucks is a strong word,,let's just say I would rather spend my money on the Sony 10ht than the Runco equivalent.
Robert ( 63.11.42.140 ) at 10:32 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Movie nightMovie Night
Should read,,I knew right away when HE put in the disc and said...........
Robert ( 63.11.42.140 ) at 10:31 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Movie Night
Ron H: 7.1 is the M&K's,,,stereo is the Elite speakers. I did demo some Paradigms today,,too bad the goof had the fronts backwards with the rears. I knew right away when I put in the EX demo disc and said listen to this,,,not knowing I did a full demo last night using the very same disc,,,,"uh excuse me,,,,,should't that gunshot go from right front to left rear?".."it's the effects of Surround EX.",,,then I proceed to change the disc to Mirrorball and in stereo I hear Sarah behind me,,,DOH you DOLT !!!! Then he said,,let's go listen to the Reference Paradigms in our main theater,,,followed by NO bass because he has the speakers set to small and no subwoofer,,, So I guess I should say that the PAradigms could/maybe sound ok, but I couldn't tell for some strange reason !!!!
By the WAY, the RUNCO single lens FP SUCKS,,,Ron, your Sony blows it away !!!.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.133.218 ) at 10:23 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
MeridianMeridian...again
The 561 has landed in my home. I updated the software via PC but I just don't have the energy to rip everything apart to put it into my system tonight. Perhaps tommorow night.
JBC: I agree that the complete Meridian system is $$$$$$$$$ but their surround processors sound incredibly good with other equipment. I've been listening to a 568 and 596 with DynAudio speakers and the sound is simply incredible. Of course, this setup ain't cheap either. I'm already getting to be known as the "video guy" but that is OK with me. I want my niche to be video and my goal is to be running the install side of the business within 3 months. The owner is aware of this and is supporting me 100%. I'll get to work independently (which I am used to and enjoy) and I'll have a higher market value. These are some big installs and will be challenging and fun. A current install has a budget of $40K...just...for the cable that needs to be pulled. The house is 26,000 (yes twenty six thousand) square feet and the Home Theater is 40' X 70' with 20' high ceilings. I think he may need PA speakers to fill the room with sound.
CuRTis ( 64.170.154.7 ) at 10:01 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Shampoo via RGB breakout cable to component ins
Darian: Sorry this took so long. I have my DVD, LD & everything else not HD connected in this manner via an iScan, as you had asked about eons ago.
I can't see anything at all wrong with the picture. What did you want me to look for again in terms of picture errors?
CuRTis ( 64.170.154.7 ) at 9:42 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Just brought the black beauty home
Any buyers remorse evaporated the instant I turned the key. It's been so long since I bought a new car that I forgot how great it feels.
Derb ( 199.174.1.202 ) at 9:32 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
EAD Up-Grade
trav1: EAD says to try back later on the possible up-grade/recycled Dac's from returned boards. At this time they do not know what they will be doing with the boards they keep. I guess they have not had to many takers on the upgrade to more channels yet. At least they didn't say NO, I guess I'll wait seeing how I just spent $400 bucks on new tires
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:30 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Ron H: You have e-mail.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.133.218 ) at 9:23 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Paint update
Joe: Can I vote for the gray?
I was wondering what it would be like to have the boys over for poker or a game. BTW, that bitch Jerri finally got voted off. My family was ecstatic.
Derb ( 199.174.1.202 ) at 9:16 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
ReQuests On Sale
Ron H: My house is to small. I would love to have another pair for the surrounds, but I would not be-able to use the other half of the house. It would be in the doorway. And the other would catch fire. In front of the fireplace. I need a basement in Houston, I hate being at sea level.
Derb ( 199.174.1.202 ) at 9:11 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Bi-amping
Craig: I'm sorry, my mistake. No I have never Bi-Amped anything. I have always thought you would have to have an external crossover, unless your speaker terminals are set up on two internal crossover boards in the speaker. Is this correct?
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 8:39 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Kieran: Just an update to a topic you were talking about awhile ago.
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AVB ( 64.41.33.50 ) at 8:26 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Trivia source
Decade of the 70's on billboard.com: http://www.billboard.com/atoz/chart70s.asp
Joe ( 205.188.195.58 ) at 7:50 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Well I ordered True Lies, Almost Famous and Sixth Day from DVD express. It was $10 cheaper then Best Buy and $6 cheaper then 800.com. It seems gone are the cheap online DVDs.
Joe ( 205.188.195.58 ) at 7:25 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Paint update
Well I know this made for good coversation last time. After seeing the carpet in the room. The comments from everyone on here, not to mention what was said here, the room is getting repainted.
I know I know some of you are realing back in your chairs saying no Joe it was such a bold paint job. But it just is not working. I am either going solid like the ceiling or maybe a dark grey.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:56 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
JBC: Uh, yeah that too.
3400 sq ft. excluding basement.
BAGMAN ( 207.30.206.224 ) at 5:40 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
T-Man: Nice talking to you the other day. Did you order any of the Amazon hot sauce. I have a bottle under scrutiny and it seems ok.
BAGMAN ( 207.30.206.224 ) at 5:36 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
WILD BILL: Congrats on the install job. I think that if I tried to do that here in Port Charllotte(old folks capital of the world) all I would end up doing is getting calls to stop vcrs from blinking 12:00.
BAGMAN ( 207.30.206.224 ) at 5:26 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Joe: New carpet is cool, I like the smell of a newly carpeted room. Be sure to take your meds and if they aren't adversly affected, get plenty of "fluids". Southern living is cool. Still unemployed, I would like to get into the local Home Depot. It is huge with what appears to be a lot of opportunity to move up the food chain. Also kinda interested in real- estate. I think a buyers agent could do well here.
BAGMAN ( 207.30.206.224 ) at 5:14 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Evening Folks,Thanks for the reviews of Remember The Titans We intended to get it that night but little projects(read wife getting ready for first guests in the new house)have delayed that viewing. 34,000 sq. ft., holy shit.
Ron H ( 63.232.66.49 ) at 5:08 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Sunfire Amp
All: As I am keeping the Cinepro My Sunfire Cinema Amp will be up for sale for $1500. I will be able to have this done as a demo sale so it will carry a full warrantee.
If interested drop me a email at ronhtx@msn.com
Joe ( 205.188.199.22 ) at 4:46 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Tony
You asked a week or so ago about the switchlinks. I ment to answer but spaced it out. I have not purchased them. I am going to place nomal switches in for now. I did wire for the switch links, I just can't swing $240 for 3 switches at this time.
Joe ( 205.188.199.22 ) at 4:44 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
On a HT note I have carpet It's is amazing how carpet kind make a project come together. I still feel like shit, but I might make it to the lumber yard in the morning. I have a day of trim out in the bedroom and its done.
Now do I put the 36" Zenith or the 25" RCA in the bedroom? The remaining one will go in the living room where the 55" is now.
Joe ( 205.188.199.22 ) at 4:39 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
The 6th Day
Kieran: I am not sure I understand your point on infertile couples that use fertility drugs. Are you saying that if you can't have children you should just accept it and go on in life or did I misunderstand?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:32 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Tony C Is it really 34,000 square fett or 3,400 square feet?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:15 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
cousing = cousin
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:08 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Another consult job
My cousing drove me over to his new house being built. A new house, all brick, 34,000 sq.ft. that is built on a tear down lot in an established neighborhood. Like his last house, he's asking me to help with the HT install.
Why to architecs think that you go home and watch a fire every night.
Needless to say, the 36" tube will be in a corner next to a fireplace and the speakers will be tough to work.
BUT, the real good news is that he has an unfinished basement, with just the perfect spot for a dedicated HT room! Nine foot ceiling as well.
It'll be a few years before we can get started on it, but man, it will work great.
Ron H ( 63.232.66.49 ) at 3:36 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Movie Night
Robert: Sounds like a great time. I would have loveed to be there. Are you still running the Elite speakers?
Robert ( 63.11.56.233 ) at 3:26 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Movie Night
Too bad none of you are nearby,,,,had the guys over last night for movie night,,poor guys,,,I think they all left with something they wanted to buy,,,man am I going to hear it from their wives.... Watched Gladiator in it's full glory after I showed off 7.1 demos from THE THX demo disc. I love watching the expressions of those not "into" HT, but enjoy it none the less. Next time will be DVD-Audio and Space Cowboys,,should be fun !!!
Ron H ( 63.232.66.49 ) at 3:09 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
JBC: Give me call if you can.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:07 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
JBC: Keep positive bud! What do doctors know? People are proving them wrong all the time. Stick to the rehab and see what happens.
Ron H ( 63.232.67.73 ) at 2:44 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
JBC: Sorry to hear the bad news.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 1:54 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
WildBill: I hope that your recovery continues. I went to the surgeon today to discover the following:
1. The other knee whould be done within the next 9 to 12 months but the option is mine.
2. Rehab will be at least three months given the etxnet of damage. Physio starts next week.
3. I am prohibited from ever running, from ever skiing the bumps or under icy conditions, from ever playing hockey or playing tennis more than once a week. At least I can still ride my beloved bicycle.
4. I stopped the pain killers too early. So I am heading home for some drugs and more haze.
Wild Bill ( 66.44.87.177 ) at 1:48 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Pronto Emulate
Ron H: Thanks Ron. That was a big duh on my part. It's been a while since I did any programming on my Pronto.
Wild Bill ( 66.44.87.177 ) at 1:47 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
JBC: Absolutely and I can tell you that there are no Meridian digital speakers in my forseeable future.
BTW, I'm glad that your recuperation is going well. It is rainy and cold here and my leg is being a real pain in the ass.
Ron H ( 63.232.69.24 ) at 1:47 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Pronto Emulate
Wild Bill: when you download Pronto edit it will be included.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 1:23 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
WildBill: My point, or at least one of them, is this -- to take real advantage of the Meridian gear yoou need buy all Meridian (i.e. speakers, pre/pro, DVD, etc.) and that IS expensive!
Wild Bill ( 66.44.45.22 ) at 1:08 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Pronto Emulate
Where do I download Pronto Emulate software? I didn't see it on the ProntoEdit site but then I am a complete dweeb sometimes. I have it at home but I need to load it onto the work laptop.
Wild Bill ( 66.44.45.22 ) at 1:03 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Meridian
JBC: Price? Yep, damned expensive although a 561 does retail for $4995. That's in everyone else's league.
Upgrades? I just upgraded a complete system including digital speakers in a half an hour. It's also done by software uploads. Neat and easy.
Gar ( 169.207.193.146 ) at 12:52 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Doh!
Gar ( 169.207.193.146 ) at 12:52 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
The 6th Day
Kieran: I was speaking in General Terms, of issues we will be faced with that the movie touched on. We are no where near the technology to interface and download thoughts into ones mind, at least not from what I have heard or seen. And I agree with you, that Gattica touched on what is closer too us now then the 6th Day, the 6th Day touched on a futuristic approach and I don't think they will be too far off when and if that technology ever occurs. But getting back to the DVD, the Picture quality was superb!!!
Gar ( 169.207.193.146 ) at 12:51 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
The 6th Day
Kieran: I was speaking in General Terms, of issues we will be faced with that the movie touched on. We are no where near the technology to interface and download thoughts into ones mind, at least not from what I have heard or seen. And I agree with you, that Gattica touched on what is closer too us now then the 6th Day, the 6th Day too on a futuristic approach and I don't think they will be too far off when and if that technology ever occurs. But getting back to the DVD, the Picture quality was superb!!!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:45 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
The 6th Day
Gar: More thoughts... Gattica also touched on an issue that I think will definitely become a problem if genetic technology goes as far as it might... that being a sort of prejudice towards those who AREN'T genetically optimized by their parents. Will these children, born with genes for cancer or cystic fibrosis, or whatever, be looked upon as "lesser" humans, or "errors" or something?
The place where I think the big fight over genetic technology will take place is with infertile parents. Today it is fertility drugs. Tomorrow, it will be clone children. Using genetic technology in this way is fighting evolution. People born with genetic defects 1000 years ago would be eliminated from the genetic pool. Today modern medicine and human compassion makes it possible for those people to survive. Genetic technology can (and maybe will) take that one huge step further. However, it could be looked at as beneficial in the same way, where a genetically designed child might be able to be designed without these flaws.
Who knows... I find it all VERY fascinating though.
(in case you couldn't tell)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:39 PM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
The 6th Day
Gar: I enjoyed that movie a lot. Saw it in the theater. From what you said, I will definitely check it out... rent for sure maybe even buy. I disagree though that this movie touches on what we face re. cloning in our future. The whole concept of cloning an adult and transfering his/her memory is a lot further out there than just cloning a human (i.e. creating your identical twin as an infant)
Human clones have been with us a long time... in the form of identical twins. Genetically, they are clones, however as all of us know, they certainly develop into very different individuals, with even varying physical abilities, (i.e. one may be better at soccer while the other is better at baseball, or something) let alone varying mental abilities and interests (math/science vs. art/music, etc.)
To me, a more interesting look at a possible future of cloning is the movie "Gatica" where parents literally design their children with the help of a genetic engineer, much like a couple today would design their house with the help of an architect.
Darian ( 66.44.4.186 ) at 11:53 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Joe: Pick your lazy ass up and go to the store!!! Charlie's Angels... which sucks by the way... was $15.
Joe ( 152.163.213.202 ) at 11:43 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
I went to bestbuy to order some DVDS. I find they now charge a Order charge, shipping charge and tax. Thats my last trip to Bestbuy.com
Gar ( 169.207.194.100 ) at 11:31 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Doh! That is "Came" not Come, hey is this from a Porno or what! hahahaha
Gar ( 169.207.194.100 ) at 11:30 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Meridian
mic: Never said it didn't work, just thought it was overkill especially at the price one had too pay when it first come out.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 11:02 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Meridian
Darian: The Meridian 568/861 are now AAA rated with no analog bypass because of the DVD-A digital interface. I've also read Theta's Casablanca II sound better then both.
Gar 6.1/7.1 works in any size room.
Joe ( 205.188.192.22 ) at 10:59 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Still waiting for carpet guy....I hate waiting. Maybe I should buy some dvds. Any suggestions on something new?
Gar ( 169.207.192.75 ) at 10:03 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Meridian Gear
Joe: It does Rock but there prices are over inflated..Way over inflated if you ask me. My old boss still to this date almost 7 years later still has Meridian system the 6000 Speakers along with a 561 and a couple other units in the store collecting dust.. Used is the only way to buy, even when I could get this stuff at Cost it still was too expensive.. And as for all the new sound formats coming out..... Argh!!! I am still enjoying the ones we have Dolby Digital and DTS are fine with me, these new ones are overkill espeically for a medium to small size rooms...
Gar ( 169.207.192.75 ) at 9:59 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Component Video Switcher......
JohnO: Thanks for the info..
Joe ( 205.188.199.176 ) at 9:55 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
meridain
Joe ( 205.188.199.176 ) at 9:54 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
I heard Merdain once, it rocked. My wife said this is what we need to buy. I leaned over and whispered the price in her ear....we went to the next room.
Still it did rock!
Joe ( 205.188.199.176 ) at 9:52 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
I am waiting on the carpet guy. I called and politey reminded them I was told between 8:30 & 9:00. The women tells me the installer is running late and is not in yet, I should just wait
Darian ( 66.44.4.186 ) at 9:49 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Meridian
WildBill:As it should be you have been loaned the unit to learn the ins and outs of it. Who needs to know more about the unit than the customer installer that has to design a system for someone else?
EADs units were always highly regarded and the Signature is still rated to have a better sound then the Meridian gear. This year SGHT moved EAD down a bit due to the lack of analog bypass. With SACD and DVD-A comming SGHT said they could no longer rate something as AAA without a bypass. So What does EAD do in responce??? They produce a hack to pass analog straight bypass on the TheaterMasters. "Its like disconnecting the TM from your amp." They are actually proud of this!
So now you would need an external analog preamp in the signal chain or abuilt into the player. Well would you look at that... EAD produced a DVD-A player with volume built in... Cost $5500! Wonder why there is a less interest in the line these days.
Atleast the PM amps are still AAA!
Joe ( 205.188.199.176 ) at 9:48 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Tony C: I am going to place my mains out in front a little ways. I did not want to confine them inside a wall. Someday I might buy new and do not know what the size will be.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 9:17 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Meridian
JBC: Meridian's trade in is not the same as the others, the 565 was upgraded several times instead of being replaced by a new model like other manufactures, until the cost of upgrade was not cost effective. I received a $2K trade in on my 565 for a 568 from my dealer. Meridian just gave us a free upgrade to THX-EX, DD-EZ & DTS-EZ Meridan's flavor EX, DPLII, DPLII-Music, DPLII-THX. All the other manufactures have charged for EX and/or will charge for DPLII if they can upgrade their units, most will come out with new boxes. The 561/568/861 will be upgraded to handle DVD-A thru a digital input this summer, this will be a charge as new DSP's and a new digital interface will be needed again other will have to come out with new models again.
I agree that the whole a digital theater system is mucho $$$$, but add up what you spent on amps, speakers, interconnects, speaker wire, plus the flexablity of the digital setup in the speakers. Then they are not that much more.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 9:05 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Component Video Switcher......
Gar: You could use an Extron RGBS switcher, you will need rca to bnc adapters. Extron switchers have 200mhz or greater bandwidth, a 4x1 can be picked up used on Ebay for less than a hundred dollars. They come up about once a month. Not an elegant solution, but solid commercial gear for cheap.
Gar ( 169.207.192.75 ) at 8:57 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Dynaudios
Joe: I used to sell the crap out of these puppies!!! But once people heard them they sold by themselves. I still have my connection with Dynaudio as long as Mike there general manager is still there.....
Gar ( 169.207.192.75 ) at 8:54 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Tony C:Morning all! Tony I have 3 sources using Component, the Sony S-7000, Pansonic RV-80 DVD Play(Which I might ad is the best player for the
money I have seen.) and the PS2. The iScan has 3 inputs S-Vide/Composite and Component and they are all converted I believe through the iScan to my Projector. Also the iScan has switches on the front of it so you can switch between the 3 sources. I wouldn't doubt in the next year or so they have one with a remote...
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:29 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Joe: Where will your mains be placed. Will they be hidden behind that frame you just put up, or standing in front of it?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:25 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Gar: I see. I didn't realize that you had so many sources using Component outs in the same system. Now I understand why your so keen on a pre/pro w/ component switching.
Does the i-scan have a remote for switching (sorry if that's a stupid question)or do you have to get up every time you wish to use a different DVD player?
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 8:02 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Mridian
WildBill, trav1: I too do like Meridian gear. I do however have two pet peaves as follows:
a) Price. The gear is damn expensive especially when they do not provide upgarde paths in terms of a trade-in allowance (a la Lexicon, a la Theta to a lesser extent and al a Proceed to a lesser extent) particulalry when the damn thing is a nothing more than a PC.
b) Price again. To take advantage of an "all digital sustem" the cost is HUGE. Have you speced out a Meridian 568 pre/pro, Meridian 562.V2 video switcher, Meridian 596(??) DVD, Meridian DPS5000 speakers and Meridian DPSC5500 center speaker. The cost is huge and this does not include their hogher end (i.e. 800 series gear and 8000 series speakewrs). Yikes!!!
Any thoughts?
Joe ( 152.163.205.54 ) at 7:59 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Are you looking at the Dynaudios, finished in wood?
Joe ( 152.163.205.54 ) at 7:59 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Wild Bill's Happy House OF Sterophile Equipment
Wild Bill: ARe you looking ath the Dynaaudios that are finished in Wood? I think it is there Contour series. They got a real good review and they sure look nice.
JBC ( 207.164.221.54 ) at 7:57 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Ron H: Going to the surgeon in 30 minutes to really find out. Seems to be getting better by the day except for a) still need the brace and b) still need the pain killers (although to a lesser extent). Thanks for asking.
Ron H ( 63.232.64.80 ) at 6:09 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Welcome Back
Derb: Did you see my post about the Requests I found on sale?
Ron H ( 63.232.64.80 ) at 6:05 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
JBC:How is the knee coming along?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:38 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Good morning...
Wild Bill ( 12.91.130.32 ) at 4:36 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Tony C: Yes, Meridian is expensive but not so expensive for me.
Isn't cost relative? LOL!!
Gar ( 169.207.193.96 ) at 2:20 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
The 6th Day
Mini review: Good flick in general, ironically it address some major issues that we will face when it comes to cloning... And there will be a clone born(human)by Summer from what I read... But getting back to the movie, the picture on this flick is outstanding some of the best video to come out
on DVD, almost 3D looking like a great HDTV feed. The sound was also excellent and very well done, if you don't own it buy it or rent it. Enjoyable to me because it wraps a Ok Plot into what can really happen in the next 20 years which is starting to scare me....
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.52 ) at 12:35 AM EST Thursday, March 29, 2001
Just finished watching Godzilla 2000. All I can say is WOW!!! If this one doesn't rattle your teeth, you need a new sub! I heard 3 new rattles and buzzes! If you enjoy the old Godzilla movies, you'll like this one. Not as korney as the later versions, like monsters using martial arts, more serious, if it can be. Some of the minor digital effects were obviously fakey (dust around the big G's feet), but the major effects were very good. A few of the blasts knocked me back in my seat.
Gar ( 169.207.194.58 ) at 11:58 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Tony C:Yup sure does.... I have 3 cables that took me 2 hours to skirt though the ceiling to my equipment, one Composite, S-Video and Component.
My PS2 uses Component and so do both the DVD Players I have, the RV-80 Panasonic and the S-7000 Sony. So what I have done is use the iScan Pro and run everything to that with the exception of the S-Video, which I run the output of the S-Video from the Sony 9000ES Pre/Pro to the input of the iScan so everything hooked up to the Pre/Pro via S-Video or Composite goes through the iScan Pro.. This seems to work the best, because the switching in the Sony Pre/Pro is top notch....
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:31 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Trivia answer/Winner and other stuff
AVB: Very cool. It'll go out tomorrow.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:18 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Gar: does the Sony HT10 have different inputs like a RP?
What I mean is like Video 1, Video 2 etc. that you can switch between.
So that you could use Component, S or composite inputs...
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:14 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Wild Bill: you forgot to mention how expensive the Meridian stuff is.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:13 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Bi-amping
Craig: I am bi-amping my mains, but I'm not using the external crossovers.
Craig ( 63.254.190.127 ) at 10:40 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Bi-amping
> Bi-Amping would be using an outboard crossover and an amp for each the highs and lows.
Yes, this is what I was referring to, not just bi-wiring.
Gar ( 169.207.192.16 ) at 10:27 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Wild Bill
Also Keep us posted on the "ROCK" situation, how good is it?
Gar ( 169.207.192.16 ) at 10:25 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Wild Bill's Happy House OF Sterophile Equipment
Bill did you say............. Dynaudio? Favorite speaker, I am using the LR120 X 5 for my HT, and I sold my Contour 3.3s 
These where collecting Dust because our Child plays upstairs now, so I went with a less expensive pair of Montana Speakers which are great. Two best speaker I have heard to date are the Dynaudio line and Joesph Audio, and the more I listen to these Montanas the more I like them.
Gar ( 169.207.192.16 ) at 10:19 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Wild Bill's Happy House OF Sterophile Equipment
Wild Bill: Cool, had one of those units for awhile from our Store, great software and easy of use like the Lexicon MC1...
Gar ( 169.207.192.16 ) at 10:16 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Thanks Guys
The iScan Pro does this to a certain extent, but not enough inputs for the devices I have. I suppose a Scaler of some sort might have more........ Check this out....... http://www.psaudio.com/ then click on 3rd box under
video Product and select "Video Lens" Product seems interesting....
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.41 ) at 9:43 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Wild Bill's Happy House OF Sterophile Equipment
Derb: Thanks Derb. The tough part will be avoiding purchasing mode. I am already in love with the Meridian electronics and dang, those Dynaudio speakers are sweet!
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.41 ) at 9:40 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
JBC: Did I metion that I will be bringing home a Meridian 561 tomorrow to play with for a couple of weeks? I've been checking out the Meridian software. It is comprehensive, flexible and (so far) easy to use.
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 9:36 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Component Video Switcher......
Gar: I believe the Parasound AVC-2500U does as well.
AVB ( 24.40.6.245 ) at 9:21 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Trivia answer/Winner and other stuff
Tony C: Sitting at my cousins house and just got on to look.
Winston: You gotta have contacts for DVD screeners
Curtis: A DTC100 outputs 1080i when the input is 720P like for ABC hidef.
Tony C/Gar: I can post the url for the billboard info when I get home. It is there but not easy to find. BTW Tony, you are correct about Metallica. so you only owe $6....OK?
Derb ( 199.174.4.36 ) at 9:17 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Welcome Back
Curtis: Welcome back, and I think I'm caught up.
Sonic: Your check is in the to be paid pile, I'll cut it on Friday, Thanx for your help.
Derb ( 199.174.4.36 ) at 9:13 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Wild Bill's Happy House OF Sterophile Equipment
Wild Bill: Congrats on the new job, sounds fun. I love the smell of new electronic equipment in the morning
Derb ( 199.174.4.36 ) at 9:08 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Houston We Have A Problem
Ron H: Everything OK in Katy, TX Animals are a little wet. Everything sure is turning green. Grow grass, grow.... Starting to fill in some of the dead areas from last years drought.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.117 ) at 9:07 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Mauling Dog Owner Update
The two SF lawyers that owned the dog that mauled that woman have been arrested and jailed. Supposedly under suicide watch. I say the pair have earned their privacy...
Derb ( 199.174.4.36 ) at 9:02 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Bi-Wire
Craig: You have described Bi-Wiring and yes I have it done on my main channels. M-L Requests, Bi-Wired with Krell 250, using AudioQuest Midnight & Crystal 5' runs each. Is there an improvemnent, hard to say. My main concern is any feed back noise from the larger magnet structure on the woofer from interfering with the mid range and tweeter sections of the electrostatic panels. Remember a large woofer is just a big electric motor and back EMF is possible; you also give direct finite control over both high and low freq.
The M-L center Logos does not allow bi-wiring, and I see no need for it. The low freq. and possible interferance from the woofer will be small.
Bi-Amping would be using an outboard crossover and an amp for each the highs and lows.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:51 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Gar: A number of pre/pros have component video switching. By no means is this a comprehensive lost but... B&K Ref 30, Intergra RDC-7, Meridian 861 (at BIG $$$), Sunfire TheaterMaster II, Theta CasaBlanca II (at BIG $$$), and probably a few others.
Howver, there is component video switching and then their is component video switching. In other words... not all units have sufficient badnwidth for ZDTV or HDTV. You will need to check this on a unit by unit basis.
Joe ( 64.12.105.156 ) at 8:51 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
I am trying to resist a quick trip to Home depot. They have a nice little compressor finsh nailer combo on sale. It's only $299
Joe ( 64.12.105.156 ) at 8:49 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
CuRTis: The .jpeg is 720KB. I have not spent to much time yet on the photosite. My connection is really slow and I get pissed waiting. I might go to the Libary and see if they have a cable connection. We are not scheduled for cable modems out here for 2 years.
I tried the othernight to offer a link. I went to the page on photopoint where they have the cut & paste links. For one reason or another it would not work for me.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.237 ) at 8:37 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Joe: Looking good. BTW you can get a URL for only the photo (without the entire ugly site coming along) by moving a photo into an album. Add captions if you like and it'll offer up a link to only the one still you want.
How large is that image anyway?
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 8:27 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Joe's PPP (Pink Panther Palace)
Joe: I envy your carpentry skills. My own studding walls are firm, but you would be hard pressed to find two studs cut the same length, or straight. I am carpentry-challenged.
cai ( 66.61.52.10 ) at 7:52 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Component Video Switcher......
Gar: Depending on what you want to do the B&K receivers and pre-amplifiers have component ins(3) and outs(1). That is you can connect up to 3 component devices, but it will not convert s-video or composite to component. If you find such animal please let me know.
Joe ( 205.188.200.191 ) at 7:47 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Component Video Switcher......
Gar: B&K Ref 30 does. 2 in 1 out.
Joe ( 205.188.200.191 ) at 7:47 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Well here is the wall (rough)that will hold my equipment. I have decided to place a crown molding across the front top. I will place a little shelf across it and maybe a few things. If I dont like it, that what they made tools for.
Anyways the RPTV goes in the center square. Aboce that is a shelf that runs for 76.5" wide. This is for my center and decorations. The equipment will be housed on both sides. Under the equipmet will be shelfs for DVDs & LDs.
Carpet in the morning, I know after my paint colrs you all are waiting to see that ;P
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1599272&a=12186920&p=45081627&f=0
Gar ( 169.207.194.222 ) at 7:22 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Component Video Switcher......
Does any company make such a unit? My next Pre/Pro is going to have to have this type of switching... The Sony is great for S-Video and Composite, but lacks the Component...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.102 ) at 6:52 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
html help
Kieran: Ok, first, HTML doesn't have a way to "comment out a line". This is because HTML isn't a line-based language, it's a tag-based language. The "comment" in HTML looks like this:
<!-- This is a comment -->
it's the !-- and the -- next to the carrots that is the HTML "tag" for a comment. I believe that you can put HTML inside the comment and it will be ignored. If you want to see some examples, just load up www.htoc.net/bin/forum.html and view the source. I am using several comments as "input points" for the CGI.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 4:50 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
html help
Scott "popcorn": Are you saying that an exclamation mark inside carrots will make a line a comment line?
BTW, to me the term "comment out a line" means to add a symbol to the beginning of a line of code, so that the compiler ignores it. In FORTRAN, and in several scripting languages, placing ANY character in the first column of a line makes that line a comment line.
Basically, I have a line of html code that I don't want to delete, but I want the browser to ignore for the time being.
Chris L. ( 24.49.157.44 ) at 4:43 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Darwin candidate-skip this post if not interested
BC: LOL! Sounds like a "Roadrunner" episode.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:40 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Ron H: How about Nortel down to 13.77. BUY people, BUY.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.240 ) at 3:02 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
BC: Cisco down to 15.56 today. The tech market is depreciating faster than my HT equipment is.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.102 ) at 2:44 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
html help
Kieran: ummm... comment out a line? it's more like place a comment. you need to surround the line with <!-- and --> (hope those come through right!)
Gar ( 169.207.192.121 ) at 2:40 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
NEW TRIVIA
Tony C: True, I was going to answer Metalica also at 554 Weeks that is the only answer I could find, but it wasn't on billoards page it was some ones personal page.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:40 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Joe: You have PNEUMONIA! Stop working and rest! Or you'll find yourself off your feet a lot longer that you expected.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:37 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Trivia answer
Gar: AVB would not let it be that simple. No, Billboard doesn't have that kind of info on the web site, it just has current charts. You can look back, but I think only for 10 years. And that would be really tedious.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:33 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
NEW TRIVIA
AVB: You do realize that Billboard changed it's methodology for catalog albums after soundscan was introduced. right?
Bee Gees, 19 weeks
Rod Stewart, 17 weeks
Wings, 9 weeks, what a lame answer,
Debbie Boone, 10 weeks.
Answer to the new question is Metalica 554 weeks. If you're talking about the new methodology.
I think if it's the old way, Like history, The Eagles "Greatest Hits" or AC/DC "Back in Black" could be the answer.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 2:22 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
html help
what's the html tag to comment out a line?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 1:19 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Darwin candidate-skip this post if not interested
Here's a little afternoon comic relief. Thought yall would enjoy it.
This is a bricklayer's accident report, which was printed in the
> newsletter of the British equivalent of the Workers' Compensation Board.
> This is a true story. Had this guy died, he'd have received a Darwin Award
>
> for sure.
> Dear Sir:
> I am writing in response to your request for additional information
> in Block 3 of the accident report form. I put "Poor planning" as the cause
>
> of
> my accident. You asked for a fuller explanation and I trust the following
> details will be sufficient.
> I am a bricklayer by trade. On the day of the accident, I was working
> alone
> on the roof of a new six-story building. When I completed my work, I found
> I
>
> had some bricks left over, which, when weighed later were found to be
> slightly in excess of 500lbs.
> rather than carry the bricks down by hand, I decided to lower them in
> barrel
>
> by using a pulley, which was attached to the side of the building on the
> sixth floor. Securing the rope at ground level, I went up to the roof,
> swung
>
> the barrel out and loaded the bricks into it. Then I went down and untied
> the
> rope, holding it tightly to ensure a slow descent of the bricks. You will
> note in Block 11 of the accident report form that I weigh 135lbs. Due to
> my
> surprise at being jerked off the ground so suddenly, I lost my presence of
>
> mind and forgot to let go of the rope.
> Needless to say, I proceeded at a rapid rate up the side of the
> building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel which as
> now
> proceeding downward at an equally impressive speed. This explains the
> fractured skull, minor abrasions and the broken collarbone, as listed in
> Section 3 of the accident report form.
> Slowed only slightly, I continued my rapid ascent, not stopping until the
> fingers of my right hand were two knuckles deep into the pulley.
> Fortunately
>
> by this time I had regained my presence of mind and was able to hold
> tightly
>
> to the rope, in spite of the excruciating pain I was now beginning to
> experience.
> At approximately the same time, however, the barrel of bricks hit the
> ground
> and the bottom fell out of the barrel. Now devoid of the weight of the
> bricks, that barrel weighed approximately 50 lbs. I refer you again to my
> weight.
> As you might imagine, I began a rapid descent, down the side of the
> building.
> In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel coming up. This
> accounts
> for the two fractured ankles, broken tooth and severe lacerations of my
> legs
>
> and lower body. Here my luck began to change slightly. The encounter with
> the
> barrel seemed to slow me enough to lessen my injuries when I fell into the
>
> pile of bricks and fortunately only three vertebrae were cracked.
> I am sorry to report, however, as I lay there on the pile of bricks,
> in pain, unable to move, I again lost my composure and presence of mind
> and
> let go of the rope and I lay there watching the empty barrel begin its
> journey back down onto me. This explains the two broken legs.
> I hope this answers your inquiry.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.237 ) at 1:03 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Scaler decision
Kieran: No screen yet because 1) I still haven't decided what wall to aim at, & 2) that decision will determine the screen size.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:43 PM EST Wednesday, March 28, 2001
Scaler decision
CuRTis: Did you ever get a screen for the Ampro, or are you just shooting at the white wall?