Archive from 02-08-2001
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.143 ) at 12:34 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
BIG AL: Holy cow. Your story reminds me why I always give my local dealer 1st shot at my business. Had this happened I would just box it up and have a new replacement swap in 20 minutes, no questions asked.
Robert ( 63.11.60.216 ) at 12:32 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
BIG AL: I love those letterbox and DD symbols as well, makes it way easy to decide which show to order/record. I suppose I could take off the optical off something else and use that, but I'm too lazy.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.82 ) at 12:32 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
AVB; I e-mailed you back last night. 
Darian; E-mail headed your way. 
Tony C; No problem!
Robert ( 63.11.60.216 ) at 12:30 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
BIG AL: Sorry to hear that experience, I know I'd hear it from my wife and son if the T60 went down and I had to get it repaired.
You know Big AL, We are on an internet forum, and the internet has become a boon for economy for some, but I've been doing retail for way too long. If at all possible I will not do business with somebody I don't know, or can see face to face. I'm lucky, I think the only thing I'm forced to pay retail for without a "contact" is Food. And because of those contacts I hardly ever worry about customer service.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.82 ) at 12:28 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
YIKES! Sorry for the long story.
Robert; Mines hooked up to a 50", and you can't tell live from TIVO. I've watched a couple movies in DD and it sounded good. I like the way the guide tells you what's in letterbox and DD right on the guide. You don't even have to check "info". I haven't recorded any movies yet, so time isn't a problem. I use it for educational TV, like Battlebots, and Junkyard Wars. I'm an itinerant inventor at heart. I also haven't tried to record a DD movie, and see if it plays back in DD. A second tuner will definately be Koool!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.82 ) at 12:19 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
The reason I ask? Here's my nightmare; I bought a Sony SAT-60 from ONECALL. Hooked it up, signed up for lifetime TIVO service. Worked great for 2 days, then the unit locked up. I reset it, and it worked fine for 2 days. Locked up again. I called ONECALL and told them I wanted a defective swap as per their 15 day agreement. They said that excludes satellite systems, deal with it through Sony. I told them their policy, website, or the policy paper they put in the box said nothing about exceptions. They said tough. I call Sony, and ask for a defective swap. They say they don't swap units like RCA, they repair them. Minimum 1 month turnaround. I say the unit is less than a week old. He asks if I bought from an authorized dealer, I say yes. He says they can exchange it. I tell him ONECALL said they can't, he says tell them to call their Sony rep. He also says call TIVO to find out if I lose my $200 because it's registered to receiver. TIVO says it's registered to card not receiver, so hold onto old card when I exchange units. I call ONECALL and inform them of what Sony told me. He says he'll have to talk to his boss, who's on vacation for a week. He'll call me when he finds out. One week later I call him, and he says boss isn't back yet, he'll call me. Two days later I call him, and he says boss said it's OK. Do I want to ship mine, and they'll wait till mine gets there to ship, or buy 2nd unit and have it shipped immediatly then $$$ refunded when mine gets there. DUH! Ship immediately, and hold out the card, and the wire package, as I used some, and don't want to search for them. He says no problem. I decide to hold onto 1st unit till replacement arrives. Good thinking because they held out card, wire package, AC cord, remote, remote batteries, warranty card, and instruction books. All I got was bare receiver. Hooked it up, activated new serial # with DirecTV, and it worked great. Returned old unit. It's been working for 3 weeks now perfectly. As it's been said before on this forum, I don't know how I lived without it! For a while, I thought my head would explode from the rise in blood pressure! This is the main reason I hate to be 1st, but I couldn't resist. Now all I have to do is get a multi-switch and wire up the second tuner. As soon as DirecTV gets their heads out, and OKs the function, I'll be in chaise au gratin heaven!
Robert ( 63.11.60.216 ) at 12:17 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
PS2 Available $400
Derb: I asked him what the "pickins" were like around here and still nobody has them unless you are at the right place at the right time. I know Gar got his through connections, and Tony C finally got one through coneections (I think), but I am suprised that they are still scarce in some places.
Robert ( 63.11.60.216 ) at 12:12 AM EST Thursday, February 8, 2001
BIG AL: Lovin it, can't see how I lived without it before. Working like a champ, We don't watch THAT much tv so I don't think the 35 hrs will ever be an issue, we just don't like bending to the networks schedule. I'm usually playing with my kids when shows are on or I fell asleep with them so I would missed what I wanted to watch. The pause feature has been usefull. Now I'm just waiting for the update to watch and record on two different channels. Picture quality has been great, although I haven't used it on my PRO610 yet,just the 27", so the jury is still out on that one. Now I just got to trade out my Coax dig cable for an optical one, so I can hook up the audio to the Theater. I love the buying of PPV and watching them later. I would consider "modifying" the unit for longer record time when I get that DVD-RW machine so I can theoretically archive some movies, but we'll see.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.82 ) at 11:57 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Robert; Didn't you get the Sony SAT-60 DirecTV/TIVO combo? How's it working?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.143 ) at 11:57 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pukefest 2001
Gar : Ouch! Sorry to hear that the whole family is outta commission. Lots of chicken soup, force fluids till you feel like you're going to burst & most importantly - get plenty of rest. Tylenol/ TheraFlu helps a bit as well.
There's a nasty bug circulating here in the SF area, all 3 of my kids & my ex got it. I don't have the time to be sick 
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.82 ) at 11:56 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
RGB; The only way I know of to get a PS2 for $299, is to get lucky. If you're in a store like Target or WalMart at the time they're stocking, you can snag one. Once word gets out, they're gone. The game stores like Babbages and Electronics Boutique will hold one for you, but require a pre-payment of $532 for PS2, 2nd controller, and a memory card.
Gar ( 169.207.193.87 ) at 11:56 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Home Theatre Set-Up
CuRTis: Lets rephrase that, nothing compares to a 9" CRT that is setup right! And in most case there not and there a pain in the ass sometimes to get right. Also some are huge in size and weigh a ton and are noisy. But all that being said, if I had a big room with a nice high ceiling I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. Especially now since you can pick them up used for cheap.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.82 ) at 11:52 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Bagman; Try www.Radio Shack.com I doubt a store will have the one you need in stock, but you could call. Our store doesn't.
Gar ( 169.207.193.87 ) at 11:49 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pukefest 2001
Well it was only a matter of time, been over a year since I have been sick. First, Son puked all over the place this morning then my wife a hour ago and I just got off the porcelin bus... 
Argh!!!!
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.143 ) at 11:33 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Home Theatre Set-Up
cai: Sounds like your sis is not on a particularly tight budget, than again who knows. My advice:
- Nothing compares to a 9" CRT, period. In my experience they are very low maintenence if huge. If simplicity/ size is the issue, go with the Sony 10HT or a DLP-I
- In-wall speakers. B&W & Monitor (in that order) are my prefs
- Screen. Stewart is the best. DaLite is the Yugo of screens ... yes it will get you there but not nearly in style
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 11:11 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Preevious post should read that it is CRTs that need tuning NOT LCDs.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 11:07 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Home Theatre Set-Up
My sister is building a house and wants to install a home cinema, a separate music room, and speakers throughout the house. I need your help in trying to make-up her mind as to what to buy.
She has heard of Vidikron and Runco projectors and is asking me which one is better. I told her to get one with 9" CRTs, but I would steer her towards a DLP or LCD projector because I know that her husband and her will not take too kindly at having to tune-up an LCD projector on a periodic basis. Which is better LCD or a three wheel DLP? Black levels and all other considerations of LDP/LCD Vs. CRT are not going to make much difference. Based on the discussions I have seen on the forum, I told her to get either a DaLite or Stewart screen. Is there something better?
One pressing question she now has is what kind of in-wall/ceiling speakers to install. Some alarm/cable guy is offering to install Sonance ceiling speakers in other parts of the house. I told her to wait until I consulted with the forum to let her know if there are better options. The only ones that come to my mind are B&W, Niles, M&K, and Monitor Audio. Are there better in-wall/ceiling speakers other than the ones I mentioned?
I will ask questions about the sound system later.
As you can probably tell from this post, she is going to buy these things based on recommendations, not on personal preference or on having auditioned the equipment at great lengths.
Thank you for your help.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 11:05 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H: Thank you for the Sony email and the Stewart fax!! If you are around tomorrow night, I may try to give you a call. You said that you thought 120" wide screen might be too large. What is the largest you would recommend going?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:29 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Monster
Ron H: Glad to hear your joy. Gotta love it when it all works out great.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 10:26 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Ron H: Congrats and welcome the growing Cinepro club. For your speakers something like the Cinepro amps can really benefit you as you have found out. I think you now know what your speakers are capable of protraying. In my case, I will be going the less power route as my speakers don't really need the kind of power that the Cinepro puts out.
Ron H ( 63.44.126.170 ) at 10:13 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Thanks all for the congrats and responses.
Derb ( 199.174.2.12 ) at 10:13 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
PS2 Available $400
Robert: I saw PS2's at the local Target for $299.99
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.143 ) at 10:12 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
AVB: Standing right in front of the monitors at Cream concerts in my youth till my ears were nearly bleeding must have taken a toll.
What's that? Did you say something to me? Speak into my good ear pls!
Ron H ( 63.44.126.170 ) at 10:12 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC:
d. See Jimi Hendrix
Ron H ( 63.44.126.170 ) at 10:09 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Derb: Unfortunetly all three fans are pumping hot air into the room. I may add a extra return air just above the exhaust from the Sony. I may consider a booster fan that will help draw more air and I can have it run turn on any time the Sony is powered up.
Robert ( 38.31.45.184 ) at 10:05 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
PS2 Available $400
Who was interested in a PS2? My neighbor has one for sale for $400, he bought several when he had the opportunity.
Derb ( 199.174.2.12 ) at 9:57 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
How Much Power Do You Really Need
JBC: I you can't weld with the amps you are currently running you need some new amps
JBC ( 206.47.244.57 ) at 9:50 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ron H: I would not get the 240V option fir the following reasons:
a) tougher to resell;
b) need to re-wire;
c) little, if any, noticeable difference;
d) how much power do you really need.
AVB ( 64.41.32.182 ) at 9:40 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ron H: I want to say that idle is like 400 watts of power out of the wall but without looking at my manual (which is in the box I sent to Cinepro) I can't say for certain.
AVB ( 64.41.32.182 ) at 9:34 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
Ron H: I figured out that my DTC100 fan niose is compounded by the fact it is one a steel shelf with another steel shelf above it. It is acting like a sound chamber forcing the noise out of the front and back. It is quieter out of the rack but then I have no place to put it. I think Curtis must have lost some hearing because I can still hear it out of the rack at 10' or better.
AVB ( 64.41.32.182 ) at 9:29 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Cinepro Improvements
cai: At volume to me is 100db on up. The bass is much better at all levels but more noticable at higher volumes. One set is 49x21.5x19 @ 165 lbs each the other is 52x17x19 @ 220 lbs each. My speakers are the VMPS that I have for sale and the SuperTower III's that I am keeping. The VMPS are 4 and 5 way systems (the ones I'm selling) so a good 3 way system with a sub would be close but not quite there as each of my speakers has a 15 active and a 10" or 12" active and a 15" passive. 100 points plus bonus....what did I win?
Derb ( 199.174.2.12 ) at 9:28 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Ron H: That is fantastic, drive them Martin-Logans !!! My amps have a power up sequence to let everything stabilize before turning loose the juice, thus no pop/surge. The Krells stay in a stand bye mode at all times. You must really like fans, I now count three running all time in the HT room
AVB ( 64.41.32.182 ) at 9:22 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
220V Cinepro.
Ron H: 220V is a factory wired option for the Cinepro. If you or anyone else does it you'll kill the warrenty.
The pop is normal at turn on but it helps if you have a delay of 10 seconds or so from the preamp going on to the amp going on. Use the reverse when powering down. I use a Furman PS pro to turn on and off the 12v signal it has adjustable delay.
Ron Hi ( 63.44.134.236 ) at 9:09 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
RickMTB:I had just discovered in the past month that the bulk of your business in not in the PC world. It makes it all the more hard to understand what your stock does at times. Oh well ther are a bunch of people who get paid a lot more than me to try to figure it out.
Ron H ( 63.44.134.236 ) at 9:06 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC: What does the amp draw at idle?
JBC ( 206.47.244.62 ) at 9:01 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Chris L: Perhaps I can help you here. I am running, at least for now, M&K 150s which, as you know are nominal 4 ohm speakers with 3 midrange drivers and 3 tweeters.
To tide me over until my new Cinepro arrives, I have borrowed an ATI-1505 which is a tremendously rated amp. The ATI sounds great, but not as good as the Cinepro. The major advantages/differences of the Cinepro(at least to my ears):
-- clarity
-- deeper and tighter bass
-- dynamics
-- faster transients
AVB or Ron H, anything to add?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.143 ) at 8:57 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
New displays are on their way
At last. The FP was picked up in Alabama this morning and the Shampoo gets picked up on Friday morning. I should have both early next week. How difficult is it going to be to concentrate on work with those two puppies sitting around.
Kieran: Yes this means that you're off the hook helping to install the FP this weekend. Your back will thank you. I have access to the perfect tool. A 4' x 8' rolling hydralic lift table. This means that all we have to do is bolt the monster in and run the wires while the table does all the work. Rated to 500 lbs.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.143 ) at 8:51 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Big Congrats/ DTC100 fan
Ron H: 1st of all I'm glad to hear that you're thrilled with your new baby. Have you named her yet? Will it be under your pillow this evening?
I must be lucky or deaf. I never notice my DCT fan even when the room is quiet. Mine was a refurb replacement direct from TCE, so they may have tweaked the fan or used a quieter model.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.30 ) at 8:50 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H: You are right about strong reactions from the market. We get pulled down by the volatility of the PC market, even though the bulk of our revenues and the vast majority of our profit comes from servers, storage, and services unrelated to PCs. One reason: we are the largest PC company, but still, anytime Gateway, or even Dell takes a dive we get dragged down too.
Like you said, its a long haul investment (and a good one). I have a bunch of our stuff, natch, but my retirement is diversified and my kids college funds is heavy in Intel (which earlier showed that its not invincible, but again, its a long haul).
NOTE: I am not an investment counselor, nor a doctor, nor do I play either on TV...
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.143 ) at 8:47 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Motorized blinds or drapes
JT: Excellent choices, all
1) Motorized drape source www.lutron.com
2) Gray Hawk screen: ask for a quote on the member discount price on the avs forum. It runs through February
3) Infrared repeaters: www.xantec.com
If you want the ultimate Lutron controls and happen to own some late model Bang & Olufsen equipment, checkout the Lutron Grafik Eye B&O Series Controls. Not cheap but very elegant. In a HT it can do the following all from a B&O remote: full control of 4 zones of lighting, motorized curtains, motorized screen, and projector lift. You can program up to 16 favorite settings of each of these - all retreivable at the touch of one button.
How cool would that be?
JBC ( 206.47.244.56 ) at 8:40 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ron H: I had the same concern when I first got the amp. Both AVB and Eric (i.e. the Pesident of Cinepro) informed me that the popping sound was a result of the capicitors "changing states' and is completely normal (AVB, help if I a wrong here). For this reason I just left the sucker on all the rime.
Inpoint of fact, that was also recommended to me by evryone at Cinepro I have spoken to -- Eric, Doug (now gone) and Travis. Evidently it is designed for a 24 hour duty cycle!
Ron H ( 63.44.134.236 ) at 8:34 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
cai: Thanks for the congrats. Here is a link to the Cinepro site.
http://www.cinepro.com/frameset.html
Ron H ( 63.44.134.236 ) at 8:28 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
CuRTis: I can hear mine when sitting in my HT room when everthing is turned off. Of course it is almost vault quiet there. The fan in the Cinepro is just slightly quieter.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 8:27 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Cinepro Improvements
AVB: What do you mean by "at volume"? What about at normal listening levels, say about 80 dB? I say 80 dB because I think that THX reference is about 105 and that would be too loud for me. Also, when you say you have very large speakers, how large and what are they? Are you talking about the VMS towers that you have for sale? Final question, your VMS speakers have 15" woofer, I think, would a regular 3 driver set of tower speakers plus a sub be equivalent to your system?
Question 1 = 20 points
Question 2 = 20 points
Question 3 = 40 points
Question 4 = 20 points
Question 5 = bonus
Ron H ( 63.44.134.236 ) at 8:25 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
AVB: My son is a electrician and it would not be a big task to add additional wireing. Do you know if the Cinepro can be wired for 220? I believe this would allow me to squeeze a few more watts out of it. Any thoughts?
JBC: Will you breif me on how you set it up to turn off and on. Did you get a pop from your speakers when you turned the amp on. this does concern me a slight bit. Any ideas?
Ron H ( 63.44.134.236 ) at 8:21 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
cai: I went from a Sunfire Cinema Grand which is 250 watts. There is much more here going on than just watts. I think the ability of the cinepro to double its power at 4 ohms and to supply high current demands is a large factor.
I do not have any decenrt conventional speakers that I could make a real test with. If someone wants to bring a set by this week-end while I have both amps I would be glad to do the comparison.
I do know the 4 ohm M$Ks that JBC has did not make the amp warm in fact he said it stayed cool. Driving the MLs for about 10 minutes in 5 channel and 10 minutes in stereo caused the cooling fins to get very very warm. The amp is open on the front and back so it should be breathing pretty well.
The sunfire which is known for running cold never put out any heat at all when I ran the M$Ks 150's or the Def Tech 3000. The MLs at times on two channel would cause iit to get so hot that it would shut down at times.
AVB ( 64.41.33.233 ) at 8:08 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Chris L.: I also have the 3K6SE III and "regular" albeit very large speakers. I went from bridged Parasound amps to the Cinepro and there was a difference in bass response at volume.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 8:01 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
And....Do you have the means or the will to try it out with regular speaks? Just for testing of course.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 8:00 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Ron H: Awesome!! I'm with cai, do you think this amp would have the same effect on conventional speakers? Not that I don't think it would blow away my Marantz MA-500s....
AVB ( 64.41.33.233 ) at 7:57 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
CuRTis: Duh!! I knew that.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.102 ) at 7:54 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
AVB: Sorry, TCE is Thomson Consumer Electronics, owner of RCA. Now you know
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:51 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Ron H: Congratulations on your new acquisition. If I am not mistaken you have gone from 100wpc to about 300wpc. I read what you said about how much your system improved. Do you have speakers other than the electrostatic MLs to test improvement? The reason for asking is that I am curious as to whether regular speakers would benefit from such an increase in power.
AVB ( 64.41.33.233 ) at 7:48 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
CuRTis: Whom might TCE be?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.102 ) at 7:46 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
AVB:I always turn my DCT off when not in use. My understanding is that it's never really powered down as it needs some circuits always on.
Fan noise? Mine is whisper quiet at all times. Kieran's DTC is sitting in the open in my dining room - I fired it up and both my son and myself can hardly here his even with our ears pressed right up against the thing. You may want to call TCE and ask if they'll replace your fan under warranty. Be advised that the warranty is only 90 days, though TCE has been known to do free stuff when people post problems over on the AVS HDTV Hardware board. They monitor it closely.
AVB ( 64.41.33.233 ) at 7:37 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Ron H: Congrats on the amp Ron. Now you know why "too much is not enough" !! Or as Jimi used to say, "make everything louder then everything else."
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:19 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Ron H: Congrats, man! Sounds like there's some sweetness in Houston tonight! Jealousy abounds...
AVB ( 64.41.33.233 ) at 7:10 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Watts and Amperes
cai: The claim is potential. On a 20 amp circuit the most you'll get is 2400 watts. If you had the circut the 3K6SEIII will pull almost 40 amps under test conditions but closer to 30 in a real world room at max power.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:01 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Watts and Amperes
RonH and JBC: The claim of 5000+ watts is something to be very careful about. At that rating you are talking of 41+ amperes. That is something beyond the breaker for an air conditioner/heating system.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.211 ) at 6:58 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Oh MY Extreme Joy in Houston.
Well I just changed my pants and wiped the tears from my eyes. I was so afraid that the monster would be too bright or mabe even a little harsh with the MLs. In my HT room the Sunfire which is laid back seemed on the bright side. What the monster brought to the party was a sound that was more detailed with a sweeter top end.
The only way I can figure that this is happening is that the ML's are thriving on the additional power. This is like buying a new set of speakers that are betttter than the MLs I had already fell in love with. I believe Derb mentioned that you needed plenty of power from a good amp to feed the MLs. He was so very right. I would not believed that a amp could make such a difference untill I heard it for myself. I am sure the difference was magnified since I am using the power hungry MLs.
On a side note the Cinepro does have a fan that runs all the time but it is not any more intrusive than the fan in my projector.
JBC had said the Monster did not even get warm for him. Well to give you a ides how difficult the MLs are to drive after a HT demo of 10 minutes and a 2 channel demo of 10 minutes at reference level the cooling fins on the rear are so hot that I am just able to keep my hands on them.
The VAMP:s loves the additional poewer. At first I thought it was softer sounding until something with a deep bass needed to be reproduced such as chapter 10 in the Haunting. I am now needing to find rattles and things vibrating that did not before. One of them is the darn A/C intake and return air grills.
And yes I had totaly recalibrated my system before the demo. More later.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 6:57 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
The Monster
Ron H: Nevermind...I got it.
Wow.....!
AVB ( 64.41.33.233 ) at 6:56 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Iscan Pro PSA
Kieran: It doesn't show up here but there is anunderscore betwwen the and avb. the_avb
AVB ( 64.41.33.233 ) at 6:55 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Iscan Pro PSA
Kieran: Thank you. It is: the_avb@yahoo.com
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 6:49 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
The Monster
Ron H: Sorry for not paying attention and my eyes hurt too much to scroll the messages. What's this "Monster" that you're setting up?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:46 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
11 minutes with Ron H...
Just had to get a post in, so Ron wouldn't think this was just his forum!
Ron H ( 63.44.128.211 ) at 6:41 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: You have mail.
Ron H ( 63.44.126.83 ) at 6:37 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: They will make it in any size you want but they sdo work out of some basic sixzes. I do not think there is a charge for custom sizes.
If you want give me a call. I will email you my cell number.
Ron H ( 63.44.133.14 ) at 6:34 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
RickMTB: You are also right I did not put the Lucent problems together with the strong reaction.
Ron H ( 63.44.133.14 ) at 6:33 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
RickMTB: I know what you are saying about CISCO I just think it was a strong reaction. I'm in it for the long term so....... as you say it will sort itself out. I expect it will recover very soon.
Ron H ( 63.44.133.14 ) at 6:33 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
RickMTB: I know what you are saying about CISCO I just think it was a strong reaction. I'm in it for the long term so....... as you say it will sort itself out. I expect it will recover very soon.
Ron H ( 63.44.133.14 ) at 6:30 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: You should have the Sony Mmanual at your tmp housing addy.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:15 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Big congerence coming up...
Scott "popcorn": Pah! I'm too busy to help some lucky schmuck who gets to play with $9k FP LCD's for work! Seriously though... he's got 2 months before the conference, if he can't figure it out I'll help him, but he's just playing the dvd for fun. It will be used for graphics primarily.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.17 ) at 6:12 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
BIG AL: Does R.S. sell network cards for computers?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:12 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Iscan Pro PSA
AVB: What's your audioweb email address? I'm signing up, and you may as well get the $5 referral bonus.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.40 ) at 6:08 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Big congerence coming up...
Kieran: Maybe you should help him out...
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:05 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pronto
Michael AKA & Chris L.: I checked the battery in my Pronto and it is full. However, I do not use mine very much, on average maybe once per week. I will keep my eyes on this and let you know if anything unusual happens. My battery is Ni-MH, maybe that explains it, as per my previous post.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 6:01 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H : btw, congrats on the new amp (and one of the funnier posts on this Board). The market reacted to a compnay missing its mark for the first time in 14 quarters, coupled with other networking companies with bad news earlir (eg. Lucent, 10,000 layoffs) and even Chambers own sobering statements about scaled back expectations. Things will sort themselves out soon though...
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 5:56 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H: Does the Gray Hawk come in predetermined sizes, or any size you want that maintains a 16x9 ratio?
RGB ( 64.18.6.191 ) at 5:56 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
PS2?
Anyone know if Sony's PS2 is available in quantity yet, and at the normal retail price?
Gasgeek: You still sitting on that DVD?? 
JBC ( 206.47.244.56 ) at 5:48 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ron H: !!Enjoy!! A few quick points:
1. I will call you in an hour to see how you like it. For what it is worth, the ATI 1505 I am borrowing pales in comparison. When I recalibrated my system I had to increase the dB for all channels, also the punch/snap just is not the same.
2. The 3,000 watts is low as this is roughly the numbers for a 4 ohm load. Given the impendance of your MLs, you coulkd be in the 5,000+ watt range.
3. WIth respect to its weight, be thankful that you did not have to lift that pup on a knee that requires surgery. I barely support my own girth, let alone the added weight of the Cinepro!
. Most importantly, it is good to see that you have your priorities right and left work yearly! Hooray for being the boss!
AVB ( 64.41.32.31 ) at 5:40 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Iscan Pro PSA
http://www.audioweb.com/Ad/AdInfo.asp?adid=80267
Ron H ( 63.44.134.92 ) at 5:30 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
The Monster
JBC:
1. I left work early. I could not wait to set up The Monster.
2. One of the guys who has a 150 watt reciever asked how powerfull The Monster was. When I replied I would be pushing over 3000 watts his eyes got big, said I was crazy and walked out of my office.
3. Why did you not Fed EX a weight lifter along with The Monster to help me get it into the rack?
4. I have 10" clearance so it will fit fine.
5. I am almost afraid to hear how thwe VMPS will sound when I replace the 100 watt amp that has been shaking my concrete floor with one channel from The Monster.
6. If your lights dim or you hear of a house in Houston had a electrical fire send help.
7. It is set up time. I will be back in about one hour or so.
Ron H ( 63.44.134.92 ) at 5:20 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: It could be stretching it.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:54 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ehh.... that sould read "Big conFerence coming up..."
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:53 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Big congerence coming up...
Okay, now this is just plain WRONG!!!! Now the guy is playing "The Matrix" on that 16x9 LCD FP I mentioned earlier! Talk about distracting! Of course, he's got it all set up wrong (his dvd player is down converting to 4x3 letterbox, while the 16x9 display is in anamorphic mode... so everybody is short and fat...)
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 4:19 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H : Well, I was talking 120" wide, but from your question, I'm getting the feeling that I'm thinking too big. :o)
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 3:48 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Michael AKA; You don't need steel wool! A simple pencil erasure works great. Everyone should periodically polish the contacts of any rechargeable battery and it's charger contacts every couple months. More often if you smoke. I can't count how many cell phones, cordless phones, etc.. I've fixed with a pencil erasure.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.171 ) at 3:28 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
psa Marantz DLP Projector
mic: remember, it's only 800 by 600 resolution.
Ron H ( 63.28.253.95 ) at 2:53 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC: Sorry for the topic header. I just am slightly out of control at the moment. I better close my office door for a while because the next employee who walks in with some stupid butt ache.............
Ron H ( 63.28.253.95 ) at 2:51 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JBC: Cisco missed the projections by 1 penny a share and now it is the toilet. The stock acts as if the company is in some sort of major trouble. This market is never going to stabilize when so many people, at least in my opinion, overreact to this sort of news. Hmmmm instead of 18 cents a share they only hit 17 cents a share, lets dump all our stock.
Venting finished.
For now.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 2:46 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": Yes, I have let the battery go dead, well, as dead as possible. I had the low battery warning for a couple of days and then it just wouldn't work. Still acts funny.
I'm going to try your suggestion, cai...thanks.
Ron H ( 63.28.253.95 ) at 2:45 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
psa Marantz DLP Projector
mic: Just remember you will need a external scaler to get a decent picture. Go to the AVS DLP forum and make a post asking your questions. There are quite a few DLP users there who should be able to give you a opinion and suggestions.
Ron H ( 63.28.253.95 ) at 2:42 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: Are you talking 120" wide or 120" diagonal?
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 2:20 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
psa Marantz DLP Projector
Ron H : it reads so good, but with what you expericed, maybe if it was only 3k it would be worth it.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:06 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
AVB: I leave mine on. If you kill the power to it, it will reset a lot of the settings you've made (not all but a lot).
AVB ( 64.41.32.59 ) at 1:36 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DTC100 fan
OK all of you DTC100 owners. Do you completely kill power to your unit at the end if the day or just power it down and let that damn fan run all of the time? I thought it would shut off by itself after a few minutes but it doesn't.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:21 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Big congerence coming up...
For the fiber optics industry, of which I am now a part, one of the biggest conferences of the year is OFC (Optical Fiber Conference...duh..). Anyway, several dept's here at Agilent will be presenting and/or hosting a booth. So, one of our marketing engineers is preparing for his booth at OFC. Guess which display he ordered for said purpose?....
.... A 50" NEC flat panel LCD 16x9 kick-ass display, that's which one!
Man, for somebody like me having one of those in my neighbor's cubicle can be dangerous... I was walking down the isle to the printer, and saw this beauty propped up on his desk, and I nearly fell over!
"Hey, boss... I need a $9000 16x9 50" flat panel monitor for my OFC display booth, okay?"
"Sure, no problem!"
(GROOOAAAANNNNNN.....) :p
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 12:43 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H : Do you have an opinion as to the maximum screen size I should go with? I would really like to go with a 120 inch wide screen, but I want to make sure everything still looks great.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 12:43 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pronto Batteries
Chris L.: There is a strong probability that the battery packs are defective. In other words, they are no longer holding charge. Check and see if you have Ni-Cad or Ni-MH batteries. The Ni-Cads go bad very often and with constant use last only a couple of years, at best. If you can determine that the batteries are bad, see if you can find a Ni-MH pack, at Radio Shack, and substitute the original ones that came with the Pronto.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 12:37 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pronto question
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": Thanks for the information. Now that you mention it, I do recall such a screen. I had to go into it once when I set-up the unit. I hardly use my Pronto, but I will let you know what mine shows when I look at the page this evening.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:08 PM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
No joy in Palo Alto this week
CuRTis: I guess that means you won't need my help this weekend?
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 11:56 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Chris L.: Have you tried using the Pronto until the battery is dead? I am going to try this.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.234 ) at 11:56 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
psa Marantz DLP Projector
mic: I checked this unit out for a few hours a couple of months ago. It is not bad for a DLP but it is very loud and the internal scaler is horrid.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.234 ) at 11:50 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC: I did send a copy of your email on my work email addy. I must have been thinking ahead and forwarded it to myself. I need to hear from bob as to who's attention to send the papaer work to. I understand the other instructions I need to send to Cinepro.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.117 ) at 11:49 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": When my battery level drops down, if I hold the Pronto down onto the docking station, the level pops back up to full. If I let off it goes back down to half. I've cleaned the terminals and everything. Sometimes it won't take a charge and I have to remove the battery and reinsert it. Strange.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.234 ) at 11:45 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC: I am free for the next hour if you want to call again. I have pulled the paper work you sent but I left my laptop at home today with your instructions. If I remember correctly Bob needs to send me the name of a contact of someone at Cinepro to forward this stuff to.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 11:29 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
TSU1000 is the dark green colored Pronto and TSU2000/2001 is the silver colored Pronto.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 11:28 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Darian: Philips agrees with your assesment on letting the battery run dead before charging it again. I am going to try this and see if it works.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 11:26 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Just found out something interesting about the Pronto TSU1000 and Pronto TSU2000/20001 remotes. The operating systems for both units are completely different and not sharable. So if you try to download a CCF from a TSU1000 into a TSU2000/2001 or vice versa you will corrupt the OS. Also, version 2.0 of ProntoEdit is not compatible with the TSU1000 and version 1.5 is not compatible with the TSU2000/20001. Philips has just created a headache because they now have to maintain two different versions of ProntoEdit and the OS for the Pronto.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 11:19 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
psa Marantz DLP Projector
VP-8000 Advanced Texas Instruments DLP. 700 ANSI Lumens Brightness, 500:1 Contrast Ratio, DTV/HDTV Compatible- Can Display Up To 1080i Formats,Multiple Aspect Ratio's: 16:9 Anamorphic, 16:9 Widescreen, 4:3 Standard, Adjustable Color Temperature-NTSC Standard 6500 Degrees Kelvin. Component, S-Video, Composite & RGB Inputs,12-Volt DC Trigger. Digital Zoom & Freeze Functions. P-VIP Lamp With With Elapsed Time & Replacement Indicators,3-Line Digital Comb Filter, Front, Rear Ceiling or Floor Operation. Auto Converts NTSC to Progressive Scan. Remote Control With On Screen Display. (OBMR) 8-Lbs.
$9,000.00 $5,500.00 Save $3,500.00
Used Consignment Sale Item Mint Condition!
http://www.tsto.com/eqcat.html
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 11:05 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
I have been reading up a little on the battery indicator issue and some think to solve the problem is clean the batter terminals (some even have used steel wool), others think it is a software bug where the software is not accurately showing the true level.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 11:02 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pronto question
cai: Go into the setup menu (press and hold down the remote icon) and look at the first screen.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:01 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Joy In houston
Ron H : congrats Ron! Now remember what they are going through in CA. We don't want to see any blackouts in Houston becuase of sudden high demands to the powergrid! hehe
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 10:54 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pronto question
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": I have a Pronto and I will be darned, I have never noticed any battery charge indicator. Just exactly where is this indicator in the Pronto? I have often wondered about this issue, but not seriously enough to read the manual. Thank you.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 10:53 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Darian: The funny thing is that when I first put the battery pack in and touched the remorte screen it came back with a battery low message and shut down. I then proceed to put the pronto on the charger unit.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.204 ) at 10:47 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
No joy in Palo Alto this week
The bad news is that my movers have stood up both the FP in AL and the Shampoo in LA multiple times. The good news is that both are being picked up today ... all shipping charges will be reversed.
Do I know how to get things done or what?
Darian ( 66.44.17.211 ) at 10:29 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
AKA: Pronto Battery incicator. What that usually points to is a not properly conditioned battery pack. Take the pronto off the charger and use it till it dies. I mean dead! Then put it on the charger over night and don't touch it. The often reconditions the battery properly. It has worked on a few of the units we use in the field.
When the green light comes on from the base... the unit is attached properly and charging.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.237 ) at 10:29 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: Oooops I think I sent the file elswhere. I will try again tonight.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.237 ) at 10:27 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Joy In houston
The monster has arrived.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 10:25 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
DVD Copies
Kieran: Ok... I did a bit of research. The iDVD software that ships with the G4 for free uses an 8meg fixed bit rate. It only burns one hour worth of video and 2 channel audio to a DVD. The reason for the one hour limitation is because the bit rate is fixed so that the user doesn’t have to adjust settings. It makes it easier for anyone to use, and also increases encoding time since it’s not compressing as much. If you buy DVD Studio Pro from Apple, you can do 5.1 channel audio and encode at 4meg VBR bit rate. It will hold 2 hours 14 minutes on a DVD. The only question I couldn’t find an answer too is whether or not DVD Studio Pro encodes region code free DVDs or if it encodes copy protection.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 10:21 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Pronto question
The battery indicator on my Pronto always shows 1/2 or less even if it is completely charged (I have the charging base). Now my question is, should I just ignore the battery indicator (as sometimes the indicators are not too accurate) or is this an indication of some sort of problem with the battery or the Pronto? Also, can I assume that if the green charging light goes out that the battery is suppose to be fully charged?
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 10:12 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Motorized blinds or drapes
Who wants to help point me in the right direction with regard to motorized blinds or drapes for the media room? Also, here are my current plans for the projector part of the room: Stewart Gray Hawk screen mounted in custom cabinetry with sections below the screen covered with acoustically transparent material to house the center channel speaker, one or possibly two subwoofers, and an infrared repeater to get the signals to the equipment room. In-wall 10 guage wiring for front, rear, and rear center speakers, terminated with 5 way binding post wall plates. The Sony 10ht will be ceiling mounted. What else should I be doing?
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 10:07 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H : The email addy for the apartment is the one listed, ohousing5@houston.rr.com , my work address is taylorj@kochind.com
Ron H ( 63.24.183.22 ) at 10:00 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
CuRTis: I know but it being only downloading at a high speed would not help in this case where I am tring to send a large file. also I need to have a phone line so the cost is not a great deal vs DSL or Roadrunner, or sprint broadband which I would not need two phone lines for.
JBC ( 207.164.221.203 ) at 9:43 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ron H: As of 6:53 AM EST the Cinepro was placed on a truck. You should get it shortly!!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.204 ) at 9:41 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H :There's always the DirecPC high speed Net connection available from Hughes if you're pining for speed. A friend who has had the service for about a year swears by it.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.146 ) at 9:24 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: If you have not recieved the file then it did not make it. I will try again tonight and if needed I will put it on my laptop and bring it to the office tommorow. Your email addy is correct in your member profile?
Ron H ( 63.24.183.146 ) at 9:22 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: No road runner or DSL where I live. I live in Seabrook which is in the Nassa area. Also I can not get Sprint Broadband at this time but it may change in a month if and when they build their new tower.
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 9:19 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H : I got the fax, but as of about 7:30 this morning, I hadn't received the zip file. I'll check when I get home tonight. By the way, why are you using a 56k connection? I have been using Road Runner for about three years (Wichita and Houston)and now I don't think I could live without it. When I'm at my parents house in Kansas City and use their dial-up connection I find it barely usable. I guess a high-speed connection really spoils you.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:10 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Robert: When I was up there last week, I found the all 80's station. I think it used to be The Point, and that's how I found it, looking for the old station.
Curtis: I've had the David Gray CD for a long time, and the first thing I thought was that he reminded me of Dillon. (great minds...)
Joe ( 64.12.104.26 ) at 9:07 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Good Morning all.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.146 ) at 8:58 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC:I am not sure if I will have time to hook ther bad boy up tonight. The odds are pretty good I will be able to though.
I will keep you posted on the paper trail etc.
JBC ( 207.164.221.220 ) at 8:49 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ron H: The jist of it is as follows:
1. There will be joy in Houston today! As of 06:56 AM EST the Cinepro has not only landed in Houston but found its way to the "sorters" and will shortly be placed on a truck on its way to you.
2. I do not know what your day is like, but the amp is guaranteed to arrive by 4:30 PM local time.
3. I will be home tonight in the event that you have any questions -- bridging, XLR connections, ground lift , etc.
As an aside, will you have time to install and fire up this bad boy tonight?
Whenever you get a chance to do so, drop us a line. I am most interested in your findings.
Lastly, can you please confirm that
a) you have received all paper work
b) Bob has provided the contact name and address to you
c) one of you, Bob or Cinepro has determined and completed the requisite paperwork so that I am not hit with another $600 tax bill.
Thanks...
Ron H ( 63.24.183.146 ) at 8:46 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC:I see my amp has arrived in Houston. It like like I will get delivery today.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.146 ) at 8:42 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
JBC: It hasn't arrived yet.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.146 ) at 8:41 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: Fax is on the way. Did you get the Zip file?
JBC ( 207.164.221.220 ) at 8:21 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Cytotech: If you are serious about a PowerPRO 20 you should:
a) Have a 20 amp service put in; and
b) Have "internal" extension cords (as described by Darian) installed for any equipment that will be far away from the rack.
Just my thoughts!!
JBC ( 207.164.221.123 ) at 7:59 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Ron H: You have e-mail...
mic ( 198.23.5.11 ) at 7:39 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
NY Loft HT meet
Carlos: the end of feb looks good on my calendar. Let me know what to bring. Looking forward to the get together.
Ron H ( 63.22.204.213 ) at 7:36 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Posts
JT: I am going to try to zip the sony Manual and see if that helps. I am out the door so I can not check its progress. Let me know if it shows up.
mic ( 198.23.5.11 ) at 7:33 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
RickMTB: I run the Radio Shack flat wire under my carpet right across the middle of the room. Now I have padding under the carpet into which I cut 2 channels and layed the wires in the channels, you can't feel the wires. I did have to move everything out of the room and pull up half the carpet, a long day.
Ron H ( 63.27.245.17 ) at 7:31 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Good Morning all.
Jeff S. ( 32.97.110.75 ) at 7:21 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Subwoofers (update)
Tony C: Well, I don't have any scientific data to back this up, but I think that a sub cabinet that is sitting on carpet is like floating on water without being anchored. When a large amount of bass comes to the sub like during an explosion scene, the cabinet will resonate. I read somewhere that the spikes cut down on the resonation by anchoring the sub to the floor. This supposedly smoothes out the bass frequencies. After trying this, I have to agree. Like I said before, it will only cost you about $20 to see if it makes a difference in your system. I got my spikes at partsexpress.com.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:09 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Good morning gang!!!
Kieran ( 207.214.148.132 ) at 2:28 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
HDTV STB PSA from KC
CuRTis: Notice the word "more" was contained in the link for some reason on that last try. The one I just did works (for me anyway.)
Kieran ( 207.214.148.132 ) at 2:27 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
One more try
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/dealmountain/dst3000.html
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.159 ) at 1:29 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
HDTV STB PSA from KC
Kieran: Do you think you could include more acro's in your title?! No wonder we scare so many newbies away.
FYI the link you posted goes to a dead end on both of my computers. I'm only interested in a STB that I can record HD from. At the moment it's the DCT100.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 12:55 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
Scott "popcorn": Yeah if you could test it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
CuRTis ( 207.215.18.10 ) at 12:42 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Highly rec. CD
Cytotech: Well I'll be damned if you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Popped that CD in my 'puter & sure enough there was lots of goodies to be found. Tks man. It makes me wonder what other Enhanced I may have laying around in my collection.
I may be leaving you all for a spell to spend a lot more time with my 1st love - music, just plain ole 2 channel stuff I have ignored over eye candy for far too long. I suggest you do the same for at least part of your leisure time - a rare comonidty around these parts for longer than I care to admit to.
CuRTis ( 207.215.18.10 ) at 12:29 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Highly rec. CD
Cytotech: Yep, "Babylon" is track #2. Let us know what you think of the CD.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.217 ) at 12:03 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
Kieran: That's what my card has... if you want, I'll hook it up tomorrow and actually test it...
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 12:01 AM EST Wednesday, February 7, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
Scott "popcorn": And the 1/8" mono jack is on the mounting bracket of the card itself? You're sure it's a pcm/digital output? If so, cool beans!
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 11:58 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
HDTV STB PSA from KC
Kieran: Hmmm... that url didn't show up... try again, maybe?http://shop.store.yahoo.com/dealmountain/dst3000.html
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.217 ) at 11:52 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Posts
JT: Gee, maybe tomorrow your name will be plastered up on the top of the forum
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.217 ) at 11:50 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
Kieran: I wonder if it would be possible take a five-speed manual and add a shift-on-the-fly low range, making an effective 10 speed... In a sane, consumer-friendly truck... Rather than an 18 wheeler, CDL-required truck. Maybe the low range would be an electronic shift, and you'd only shift into the low range for towing purposes to get up to speed... ah, I dunno.
As for your sound card connector, it is a 1/8" mono plug for digital out... just need an 1/8" mono to RCA to connect to your receiver.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 11:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: If you use the DTC 100 you will need a VGA to BNC 5 cord adaptor to a rca jack converter.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 11:37 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Posts
Wow, I'm usually just a lurker. I think this is the most I've posted in a day for quite some time.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 11:35 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H: I'm planning on using DirecTV and OTA for my HD sources.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 11:33 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
Cytotech: I tried to get PJCalc using the link you posted and couldn't connect. I then found the software on Sony's website, but the 10ht isn't in the projector list. Do you have another link to the software?
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 11:27 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: I just timed out on my mail server. I will try again.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 11:25 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: The file for the manual is quite large and I only have 56K at home, no DSL or cable available here. So it is still on its way. Do not freak out at its size.
As for cables you will need a composite, component for DVD player, s-video and then some thing for HD. What do you plan to use for a HD source cable, Direct TV or Dish?
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 11:21 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
HDTV STB PSA from KC
(KC is me, btw)
Here's a great price on the Tosh DST3000 if anybody is interested. This is reportedly a great HD STB.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 11:19 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H: Oh, I forgot to tell you, just send the fax to my attention (Josh Taylor). The fax actually comes directly into my pc, so you don't really even need to have a cover page.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 11:17 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
Ron H: Thanks a bunch for your help. I would love to meet you and see your setup sometime. The current problem is that I have to have everything finalized for the electrician, builder, and wiring guy on Friday when I meet with them to do a walk-through and show them where I want all of the wiring for the home.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 11:10 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: You know since you live in Houston you are free to visit me and spend some time with the Sony 10HT on a GrayHHawk screen in a home environment.
I just put the Screen assembly instructions in my vehicle so I will have them for tommorow.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 11:03 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Worth getting up early for...
High Def shuttle launch? Not sure but here's the thread....
http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum20/HTML/001126.html
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 11:02 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
HTPC question...
Cytotech/anyone: So, if I don't have the full sized RCA jack (i.e. I have a SB Live Value) what sort of digital out jack DO I have?
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 11:01 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: A copy of the Sony manual is on its way to you by email.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.124 ) at 11:00 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Night guys.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.124 ) at 10:59 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
HTPC question...
Kieran: SB Live! cards will, but if you want a full sized RCA jack(coaxial digital) you will need to go with the SB Live Platinum, I believe. I think BIll has this card, as it comes with the LiveDrive. It is a jack terminal that you can mount in an unused drive bay on the front of your PC, and duplicates connections normally found only on the sound card itself.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 10:55 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
HTPC question...
Okay, so how do you get a pcm digital audio signal out from your computer?
I'd like to be able to hook up a digital receiver to the computer, and have the receiver handle all the audio for the computer, from games to movies, to windows bings and dings. Is this possible with something like a PCM output? I know I could use the analog stereo "line out" from a Sound Blaster to the receiver... I've done that before. But is there any card that would send everything out as a pcm (or DD if a movie) signal?
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 10:54 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
BlackHawk=GrayHawk
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 10:53 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: My screen is a 96x54 BlackHawk. The frame is the Deluxe Frame with Veluxe on the frame. Bbe aware that the frame is 3 1/2" wide.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.124 ) at 10:51 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Slot loading disc players
Kieran: IMO you will be fine using a slot loader. Wild Bill might have other opinions, though.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 10:49 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Slot loading disc players
I'm thinking of getting the very highly rated Pioneer DVD-105S dvd-rom drive for my new computer. This is a slot loading drive. Are there any drawbacks of slot loading drives versus tray loaders, in general? I've got a slot loading cd player in my car, and it seems to do allright by my CD's. Things I'm concerned about: will a slot loader tend to scratch the disc more than a tray, and will a slot loader get more dust inside than a tray? I can think of reasoning for either way for both questions...
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 10:47 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
CuRTis: I'll admit that trucks are a big boy's toy, for the most part. Not very useful if you have a family.
Not to get side tracked again, but remember the truck I told you my Coach drives? Granted the load isn't near 12,000 lb of horses, (more like but the distance makes up for it: 4-6 West Coast to East Coast round trips per year, many of which zig-zag en route up and down the country. Of course, HE was smart enough to buy the Cummins V6!
As for eating through heavy duty automatic transmissions... that goes back to what I said to Popcorn re. auto trannys vs. sticks. It's another reason why, if you've got the granny gear, a manual is better any day of the week. Then all you go through is the clutch, which is cheap to replace. If you've got an automatic, you've got to replace the whole tranny.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.47 ) at 10:45 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: I will search for the documents you requested. If I fax to whose attention do I send it?
Do remenber that the lens for the Sony is not in the center of the projector. This is a warning as to where you need to have your power and inputws coming out of the ceiling.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.124 ) at 10:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Highly rec. CD
CuRTis: Pop it in your computer and find out.
I have a Holly Cole cd that is enhanced, and it actually has live video for 3 of the tracks. It is Holly Cole's "It Happened One Night."
Kieran ( 207.214.148.11 ) at 10:40 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Highly rec. CD
CuRTis: Never heard of him... maybe you can play that CD for me while we heft the Ampro?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.30 ) at 10:39 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Highly rec. CD
... this CD also has POWERFULL bass! THe liner says that it's an "enhanced CD". I have paying to much attention to DVD and not enough to pure music for far too long.
So what does Enhanced CD really mean, other than it's time to re-reglaze all of my windows?
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.124 ) at 10:39 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: Mine is too, but with an 18' vaulted ceiling, I didn't want to have to suspend it from that long of a pipe. There is a 2' overhang that is 9' high at the back of the room, which is perfect for me to mount it underneath. If only it was a foot or 2 closer...
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.124 ) at 10:37 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Highly rec. CD
CuRTis: It contains the single "Babylon," right? It gets a lot of airplay on WRAX here, and was originally featured on a Sunday segment from 10a to 1 pm called Reg's Coffeehouse. Nice program. I'll have to check out the cd.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 10:30 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
Cytotech: Thanks. I'll play with the software. Fortunately, I have tremendous flexibility in the mounting location for the projector. The house is a new build.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.30 ) at 10:29 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Highly rec. CD
Robert: It depends upon your style, like all music. Give a listen to the CD David Gray: White Ladder (RCA 07863 69351-2).
Very, very good recording that's hard to describe. I would say he's less a singer as a storyteller - not unlike a young Bob Dylan, yet not nearly as harsh. Incredible aucoustic & electric mix that's simply ... musical. It all works for me, esp. the 1st two tracks. He gets a lot of airplay on KFOG, one of the best stations on the planet, IMHO.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.165 ) at 10:23 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
JT: Try downloading PJCalc by Sony.(try www.thebigpicturedvd.com/pjcalc.exe ) Set up the screen size you THINK you want, then click Layout. Click Projector and choose the 10HT from the list(the software is designed to work with ALL Sony projectors!). It will give you the minimum and maximum throw distance for that screen size. You can double click to change from inches to feet, etc. The minimum and maximum will be VERY close(about a foot), so you might be limited in the size screen you can use. Also, be aware the 10HT looks best and works best when the center of the lens is even with either the top or bottom of the screen. Any higher or lower, and you will have to use the unit's digital keystone correction, which I understand can cause some picture anomalies.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 10:10 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sorry for the double post. I don't know what happened.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 10:10 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
Well, you guys have convinced me that the Sony is the way to go. I had planned on getting it until my buddy tried to mess me up. He usually steers me in the right direction, but everyone can be off once in awhile. The next question is what size screen to get. I was also thinking of getting a 120 inch. How much does the picture start to suffer? What is the biggest size you would recommend? Ron H: What size is your screen? Also, my fax number is 713-544-9061. Please send any info you think would be helpful regarding either the Sony 10ht or the screen. My builder needs to know mounting info for both. Another question, what cabling do I need to have run to the projector? I will have the wires run through flex tubing in case I need to run any additional wires later. Thanks again!!
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 10:09 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10HT
Well, you guys have convinced me that the Sony is the way to go. I had planned on getting it until my buddy tried to mess me up. He usually steers me in the right direction, but everyone can be off once in awhile. The next question is what size screen to get. I was also thinking of getting a 120 inch. How much does the picture start to suffer? What is the biggest size you would recommend? Ron H: What size is your screen? Also, my fax number is 713-544-9061. Please send any info you think would be helpful regarding either the Sony 10ht or the screen. My builder needs to know mounting info for both. Another question, what cabling do I need to have run to the projector? I will have the wires run through flex tubing in case I need to run any additional wires later. Thanks again!!
Robert ( 63.11.55.219 ) at 9:53 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Cytotech's new House
Congrats on the new house,,too bad most HT items fall way past the welcome to the neighborhood kind of thing. Heck, we just took the new neighbors dinner,,and you want a new Sony 10ht !!!! Seriously, congrats, I remember the first house very well.
Robert ( 63.11.55.219 ) at 9:48 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Tony C - Run DMC
Tony,, you never guess what I just found,,,,,,"Raising Hell", I guess I'm going to have to put it on for ol' times sake. Hell I just found my box of 80's music,,,, B-52's, The Cure, Bauhaus, Fine Young Cannibals,XTC, Depeche Mode, Big Audio Dynamite, as well as my old Sheffield and IASCA Test Discs. Did I ever tell you guys I used to judge Car Audio Contests,,,that's why I've ruined my ears to anything great musically.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.183 ) at 9:44 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New House(long)
AVB: Well, unless I can shorten the throw distance(and I MIGHT can), it HAS to be 120. I MIGHT can ge it down to 110. I will do my best. I think you are right, adn also want to minimize the appearance of pixels. Otherwise I will have to get a Cygnus lens. $$$ and a pain to setup.
BTW, I got my measurements from Sony's PJCalc. I just wish the 10HT could shrink the picture a little more. I would like to go with a size like Ron's.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.30 ) at 9:44 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
Kieran: To be fair, everyone I know with trucks use them for pulling very heavy loads, e.g., pulling 8 to 12 1,000lb horses in fairly heavy trailers. This puts the trucks to the limit as soon as they are delivered and any flaws in design, materials &/or manufacture show up far more quickly than someone who tows very little, if anything.
It's not limited to Dodge trucks. I have seen lots of Fords & Chevy's eat through heavy duty automatic transmitions, have premature serious engine wear & develop all manner of uncureable maladies.
Besides, everyone knows that trucks are for boys (I just had to weave that zing in somewhere). I'll agree to dissagree on this topic.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled HT nirvana.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.183 ) at 9:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New House(long)
Tony C: Thanks. But we HAVE a new baby(4 months old!). I HOPE there isn't another one on the way, otherwise we need a new home(2 kids, currently a 3 br.)! This is our first home, and we are really psyched!
Gar: Thanks. I've got to do some creative math.
I hope this doesn't turn into a Joe project... move to a new place(or remodel) with money for HT, then the wife spends it all on doodads for the house before you get a dime! JK Joe!
AVB ( 64.41.34.78 ) at 9:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New House(long)
Cytotech: I think 120" screen might be pushing it. From what I have seen and read after 106" the picture starts getting a little soft. YMMV.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.39 ) at 9:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
cai: Thanks CAI and RonH. I used it in my old house, and again, its fine for running to the rears (I am not that picky anyway, though I do use Distech Silver 312 for my mains and standard Monster Cable for the center). I seem to recall the flat profile made terminating a little more difficult (I have to use "pins" since the Yammie receiver only accepts bare cable or pins for the rears and center).
AVB ( 64.41.34.78 ) at 9:39 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
BIG AL: You've got mail.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.30 ) at 9:34 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Back on Topic
Robert: Burried in that car description was a mobile audio system at least. 12 speakers plus 2 x subs with about a megawatt of amps
Those other guys went off on a tangent, not little old Curtis.
I mentioned this DVD a while ago for any fan of Citizen Kane, the made for HBO movie about the making of C.K. titled RKO 281. Great cast/ acting & writing. Certainly worth a rental. It must have been shot in the real Hearst Castle - ever been there?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:31 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New House(long)
Cytotech: I'm real happy for you. Here's wishing you the best of life in your new home and your new HT.
BTW, for me, usually a new home meant a new baby, but YMMV.
Gar ( 169.207.194.138 ) at 9:25 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New House(long)
Cytotech:Cinemasource is the place ask for Tom, and that is where KPD does some work. There a good place to deal with.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.183 ) at 9:15 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New House(long)
Thanks to everyone that replied.
Wild Bill, I was wondering when you'd reply! That's the pisser about a "seller's market." It's only good if you're a seller!
We did the walk through today. It was with a different(friendlier) guy than Diane talked with yesterday. It went well, I thought. He didn't walk out on us, and we didn't walk out on him. We did compromise on a few things, but they WILL be fixing the severely out of plumb wall. Yippee! I think he was going to pour himself a nice stiff one after he left us!
Overall, we are happy.
Now I just need to make sure we have funds left for my HT upgrade!
These are the things I am considering(perhaps not all at once!)
Sony VPLVW10HT
Stewart 120" 16:9 Luxus Deluxe Grayhawk screen
DVDO iScan Pro
Possible the new Zenith HD DSS STB(have you seen the feature list on this thing? Incredible! Now lets hope it does all it says as well as it says(yeah, right!))
Pronto Pro
SVS sub(powered, not sure which model(probably the biggest one))
Cabling by Canare(self terminated)
Perhaps a Cinepro PP20(I just HAVE to try this thing)
I will almost certainly pull the trigger on the screen before Feb is up, since there is a 10% discount.
I will also almost certainly pull the trigger on the Sony 10HT before Mar 31, since it is going for almost $1000 less than I can get it anywhere else. Does anyone know if I can return this unit to CinemaSource if there are obvious and distracting pixel problems? MVS and Projecting Solutions will let me, but I'm not sure about CinemaSource. Is this where KPD works?
Gar, is this where you got yours?
Thanks for all the help fellas.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.183 ) at 9:03 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
JT: Funny you should ask! I just demoed those very projectors a couple of weeks ago. The Seleco on Friday, and the Sony the next day. My choice is unwaveringly for the Sony. And I am certain it wasn't even set up right! Furthermore, it was being used with a Stewart perforated screen! This combo has been shown to cause a moire effect in the image, and did. Also, the DVD player they used was the Pioneer 434, which doesn't even do 3:2 pulldown, and might not be any better than the Sony's internal scaler, which ALSO doesn't do 3:2 pulldown.
The result? An amazing picture, even with all the setup flaws. I was amazed, as was my wife. I REALLY can't wait to get one set up in MY HT.
The Seleco has some problems. And let me preface this by saying I am sure IT wasn't set up correctly, either as the dealer had only had it a week.
I saw neither one with HD(much to my chagrin). The Seleco had good blacks, and no noticeable screen door effect. But neither did the Sony. And the Sony's blacks were about as good(again, the Seleco wasn't set up well, as I've read it has blacker blacks). The Seleco's internal scaler was not good at all. However, the choice of demo material could have been the culprit. The Mummy.
The Sony was demoed with some stupid computer graphics dvd(The Mind's Eye or some such nonsense) which to me looked terrible! I then asked him to put in a movie, and he played Batman & Robin, which I have never seen, so I can't comment on how good the transfer is, or even if it is anamorphic. The opening scenes are very dimly lit with Batman donning his costume. Shadow detail was great! He then played a demo DVD Sony sends with their projectors. Phenomenal! Aerial footage of natural landscapes, dolphins swimming, etc. Truly wonderful.
Also, the Seleco had this weird artifact to the picture that I believe is called Rainbow Effect. It was sort of a shimmery multicolored artifact that was visible to me. I only noticed it from time to time. I would have to see it again to confirm.
The light spill above and below a widescreen image with the Seleco was awful as well. I attribute this to the native 4:3 panel.
The only way to use more of your panels resolution with anamorphic movies is to buy a Panamorph lens or equivalent, which as an expensive, bulky solution at best. Also, the throw distance with the Seleco is much longer.
The Seleco is a great deal noisier, too. However, I suppose the longer throw distance will help in this regard, since the projector will likely be further from you.
I am sorry this is so disjointed and long, but I hope you found it useful. I don't mean to knock the Seleco, as it DID have a good picture, just not as good(to me) as the Sony.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:45 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
RickMTB: The Monster Cable SuperFlat Mini Cable is 16 gauge and the product description is SFLM.
*Perfect for under carpet
*Paintable, stainable navajo white jacket matches all interiors
*Over 300 strands in SuperFlat Mini
*Flat profile for running around door frames
That is all I could find in my literature collection.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.85.122 ) at 7:32 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
JT: Your dealer "buddy" is steering you wrong. As Scott "Pop" noted, 800 X 600 is simply inferior. Consider this, you'd be watching anamorphic DVD at 800 X 450. You'd actually have to DOWNCONVERT the resolution to view anamorphic. Not a good idea IMHO.
Joe ( 205.188.198.57 ) at 7:28 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
RickMTB: I have the monster flat wire. I use it for my front surround speakers. I ran it up the corner of the wall and under the lip on the cieling cove. It is only16 guage it is really flat and you can paint it.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.85.122 ) at 7:24 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Star Wars DVD's
Cajun Mike: The guy is legit and the DVDs are pirated? Somehow that doesn't compute into legit.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:24 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
CuRTis: Good for her! We've already had this conversation... you don't like Dodge trucks, I do... You have LOTS of friends who've had nightmares with theirs, I've got LOTS of friends who's Dodge's have lasted for eons... we can go back and forth forever... I say we agree to disagree.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:17 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
DVD Copies
Robert/Carlos: Here's the trick: Formatting what you record in such a way that the dvd player will recognize it and play it as a dvd movie. The drive itself is just a recorder, so it will write any sort of data you throw at it. DeCSS will take a dvd, and write an unencripted mpeg2 file to your hard drive. What audio this includes is a mystery to me. Apple is touting their software, the new iDVD package, as the key to all your dvd recording dreams... the "superdrive" is just a tool to implement the software. HOwever, I'm sure that this software will NOT do 5.1 (well, I'm not SURE, but I'd bet money on it!)
Now, I've HEARD of people taking DeCSS to a dvd, writing a file to the drive, then burning a few seconds of the movie (WITH 5.1 audio) to a CD-R, and playing it back. What they used to play it back I'm not sure. Anyway, all of this will become public knowledge on the hacker forums, sites and chat rooms, as soon as this new G4 desktop arrives.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.211 ) at 7:12 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Worst gas mileage of all?
Kieran:My friend has a 2000 Dodge Ram Duallie 1 Ton/ 4 wheel drive with the 99 litre V-10 gas engine. This thing costs an average of $75 to fill up and the mileage is so bad that she used up an entire tank last weekend just doing erands. It has gone through 2 defective catalytic converters (under warranty thank god @ $950 per replacement), has numerous "strange squeaks and "funny noises that 4 dealers can't figure out what to do with and the bright red paint is already beginning to show signs of fading.
Other than this stuff, it's perfect. I'm guessing it was built on a Friday or Monday - or both.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 63.230.215.241 ) at 7:11 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Ron H : Thanks. I know I am late to the Pronto owners club. I am kind of looking forward to using the ProntoEdit software.
Ron H ( 63.31.40.117 ) at 6:45 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Tony C: "only the nice animals talked. The mean ones just growled." It reminds of some bars I used to hang out in.
Ron H ( 63.31.40.117 ) at 6:43 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
RickMTB: If you want to consider it, you can run two lengths for each plus and minus terminal. That is what I did for TT's in my couch. that will give you I guess about a 12-14 gauge.
Ron H ( 63.31.40.117 ) at 6:38 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": You will really enjoy the Pronto. Ones you understand Pronto Edit you will be tweeking till all hours of the night untill yuo have it doing exactly what you want it do do and looking the way you want it to look. Good luck and enjoy. If you have questions there are a few of us here who have spent time learning and customizing the Pronton.
Ron H ( 63.31.40.117 ) at 6:34 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
BC: Sorry about that. LOL
Gar ( 169.207.193.210 ) at 6:07 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
Ron H : Ditto on your reply, I bought the Sony for the very same reasons.
Robert ( 63.11.56.235 ) at 5:56 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
DVD Copies
Carlos: You know Carlos, this could be very interesting as the first US bound DVD recorders will only record two channel, so your computer recorder if it can do 5.1 will blow away consumer grade products. Will it do 5.1 recording? And you are right, the trick will be will it playback on current DVD players. That's why DVD-RAM and DVD-RW is losing ground to DVD+RW and it's ability to playback on MOST of your current DVD players
Robert ( 63.11.56.235 ) at 5:48 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Tony C: I think I have that Sarah DVD? not sure, will have to look for it,,with four dvd players in the house, i've got dvd's strewn about the house.
Funny you say that about the mean dinos grunting, my son caught that too, "how come aladars talk dad?" he's 3 1/2.
Robert ( 63.11.56.235 ) at 5:43 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Checks on its way
Tony C: Yea we've talked about Sarah before, but I didn't know she was working on anything during her hiatus. Cranked up surfacing yesterday, man she's got a great voice.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:37 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Robert: I watched Dinosaur last night. It was a typical Disney movie.
I thought it was funny that only the nice animals talked. The mean ones just growled.
Overall, great animation and great sound effects.
P.S., did you get the latest Sarah DVD? 1989 - 1998.
Robert ( 63.11.56.235 ) at 5:35 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Front Screen Theater Curtains
Cajun Mike: Tony C turned me onto Smarthome.com for some X10 stuff and they have motorized curtain items, and I'm sure a local seamstress would build a set of drapes relatively cheap (unless you want a lot of folds in the drape which gets REAL expensive as you need to add width) I also remember going into a Home Dept EXPO store in San Diego and they had some drapes that I though were perfect for that scenario. When I finally get a FP, perm mounted screen and motorized drapes will be the way I go for sure !!!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 5:35 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
BAGMAN: Thanks for the info. I don't know the specifics on Monster Cable superflat (I suspect their web site would have that info) but I seem to recall it equated to 16 gauge. Since its running to the rears that was never a big issue with me and I used it successfully at my old house. Its pretty flat... flat enough that some people say they simply run it along the walls and paint over it (you would definitely still see it though). There is at least one other vendor of similar and eve flatter stuff but it was a lot more expensive and looked more fragile.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:35 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Cajun Mike: Where's your SVS?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:34 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
cai: No, I don't have access to discounted vinyl. Sorry. All vinyl is licenced out to third parties.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:33 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Robert: Sarah has been on hiatus. She has been trying to start a family, but I havn't heard if she had any luck. I did hear that there will be a new studio album late fall.
Also, you owe me $80.
Hope the wife enjoys...
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:26 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
DVD Copies
Carlos: You seem to have a bit of a cough, there, my friend. Better take some time off work and get some rest.
Dr's orders: watch two DVD's and post here in the morning!
You realize that DeCSS.exe will only decript the movie file, and none of the extras, right? I read about the new G4 desktop, too. I personally can't wait to hear whether that "superdrive" will burn dvd's that are truly readable by regular consumer dvd players. If so, it will make archiving home movies from the digital camera VERY cool.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:22 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Another computer quandry
cai: I know I have to pay tax either place... my point was that after everything, the one was still $10 cheaper. The tax on the cheaper, was obviously a smaller amount. So, it all adds up. Anyway, I think I agree with you and Scott that I should buy locally if I can, if for no other reason than to avoid the stress associated with shipping (stress on the parts and on me!) Also, any returns will be easier this way.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:12 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Subwoofers (update)
Jeff S.: Interestiny test. My sub sits on the carpet, but it's a concrete floor. I don't think the spikes would make a difference, do you?
Cajun Mike ( 209.124.192.249 ) at 5:00 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Front Screen Theater Curtains
I'm really looking at the Sony 10HT front projector. If I go that route, I'm going to sell my Hometheater cabinet and purchase some equipment racks for my gear.
Do any of you have web addresses or company names where I can find wall mounted curtains that are either electric or non-electric? Curtains that look like true theater curtains.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 4:48 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Chris L
Robert: I need to change my email addy on my bio page but yes I got it. Back at ya shortly.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:31 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Good afternoon guys.
Fortunately and/or unfortunately I had to replace my Marantz RC2000mkII remote. It was having one hell of a time learning the commands from my Loewe remote. The commands would either be rejected as "NG" or "AGAIN" or if it did leran the command the use of the command would do nothing. I even had cases where if I was able to program the command from the Loewe remote and attemted to use it, the RC2000mkII would go blank and simply switch to the PREAMP page on the remote. Anyhow, I went out and bought the Phillips TSU2000 remote. The silver color even matches the silve color on my Loewe Aconda TV. When I told the wife that the RC2000mkII could not learn the Loewe remote commands she replied, "I guess we will just have to upgrade the remote and use the RC2000 in the bedroom." I was shocked to say the least. I have had the Silver pronto for the last two days and like it so far. Now I have to dig in and use the ProntoEdit software. One thing I really like is the included UDB of remote commands. My Loewe TV, VCR, Anthem CD player and Toshiba DVD players were in the UDB. However my Proceed AVP, Marantz AM/FM tuner and Pioneer Elite CLD-99 were not.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 4:28 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Ron H :Dohhhhh, keep me posted. That last trip is gonna end up costing me at least 4 grand though! I've been thinking FP ever since.
Darian ( 66.44.12.211 ) at 4:19 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sharp has shown a prototype of a 16:9 DLP at a recent show. I am up there on the list to take a look as soon as it ships.
Darian ( 66.44.12.211 ) at 4:18 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
"Seaming it in" is how the carpet guy keeps his work from looking like you ripped the carpet in 1/2 and ran a wire through. You can run wire straight across the floor but it is usually a good idea to trench it. Center of rooms is often high traffic. Stomping on a wire that is up against concrete can not only break apart the conductors... over time you could svere it all together. Running along base boards is usually a good idea as people dont step there and there is a gap between the tac strip and wall. This gap is good for wires.
Maybe you should think about up rather than down. I often go up into air ducts frames to get my wires around. Most people where I am want the HT in the Basement, so slabs are nothing new to me. Remember I am from AZ. (What's a basement?)
JBC ( 207.164.221.74 ) at 4:17 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Ron H: Heck, if you do not have my (errrrr, now your)Cinepro by tomorrow 4:30 PM Houston time I want to know. If they miss delivery I am going to ask for my US$150 shipping charges to be refunded. Man, that pup was expensive to ship!
Ron H ( 63.24.183.13 ) at 4:10 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
BC: Not to mention about 2000 more watts of power than your last visit.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.13 ) at 4:04 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
JT: If you send me a fax number I can send you the instructions that came with my perm mount GrayHawk screen.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 4:01 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
DVD Copies
Once I buy my new G4 desktop I'll be able to (cough, cough) make (cough) copies (cough) of DVDs. There is a (cough) program on the internet to (cough) disable (cough) copy protection and extract a DVD to your hardrive then (cough) burn the disc. The desktop costs $3,400 which to me is pretty good considering you get a computer and CDRW/DVD burner in one. Set top DVD burners cost around $2,000 right?
Ron H ( 63.24.183.13 ) at 4:01 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
BC: JBC may be making another visit this spring. We may plan another get togather at that time. I will have the Cinepro, the VMPS sub and the GrayHawk screen for your evaluation.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.13 ) at 3:58 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
JT:I went fron a DLP to the Sony. I had a DLP Dream Vision which is a darn good DLP projector. The DLP does have better blacks but I think the colors, shadow detail and sharpness are better with the Sony.
For ease of use the Sony is also a winner. Yuo do not want to try to use the internal scaler with any of the DLP projectors. You will need a HTPC or something like a Quadscan to get a decent picture. The DLP looks pretty good on 4:3 movies but the loss in resolution on a 16:9 picture is quite noticeable.
With a DLP projector you will want a 4:3 screen. It works much slicker than trying to use a 16:9 screen because it is a native 4:3 projector.
Also the noise of the DLPs is quite high. The Dream Vison ceiling mounted behing me about 18" measured 54dbs on my Radio Shack meter. I did not really notice this much during the demo but it became quite a distraction at home. Here I have invested 10 of thousands of dollars in a very good sound system and any sound levels below 54db was lost due to the noise level of the projector.
Do not get me wrong DLPs are OK but I think the Sony with the 16:9 LCD is a better option Better yet is a CRT type projector if you are not looking for plug and play and at times casual use in a lighted room. In my case the ease of the Sony outweighed the advantages of a CRT. YMMV
Robert ( 63.11.51.196 ) at 3:46 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
JT: I've seen Ron's Sony as well, no comparison to the HT200. the newer models may give them a run for the money, but at the price you can get the Sony for, You leave more $ for other goodies.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.11 ) at 3:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
RickMTB: On the HGTV show a couple of weeks ago they showed the wire going under the carpet like this. They put a slit into the padding and then ran the wire on it's side through the slit. Depending on the size of the wire and the thickness of the pad there should be no "bump". I am going to be in the same situation in our new house(concrete slab-one floor)and may end up trying it that way myself. What gauge is the Monster Superflat and how flat is it?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 3:28 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Star Wars DVD's
Cajun Mike: $225 bucks??? The first thing I thought was "is he out of his mind?" You can get the legit LD's for $100-160 or so, and the quality will be BETTER! (This is because the dvd's are simply copies of the LD's). I know you don't have an LD player (do you?) but try to get some perspective... $225 is rediculous, and I agree w/ Joe... it IS piracy after all.
BTW, I have a sealed, never opened, brand new box set of the DD5.1 SW Trilogy on LD that I'll sell to anyone here for the cost I paid. This is the recent Japanese release, so it has Japanese subtitles in the lower black bar of the letterbox frame. Also includes some footage from the set of Ep.2. Click my name to email me if you're interested. I'll even include the original receipt from the store where I bought it. I'll putting it on ebay soon with a reserve price of my cost.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:13 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JT - I also have seen the sony 10HT at Ron's and was impressed. Would have loved to have seen it with the new greyhawk though!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.228 ) at 3:07 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
JT: A few links for ya... (though since the HT200 is only 800 by 600, I would avoid it.. the HT250 is better at 1024 by 768, but personally, I'd want a DLP at 1280 by 1024 or 1280 by 720, the latter being the spec given for the DLP RPTV's coming out.)
http://www.theperfectvision.com/equip/equip_main_05.htm (About halfway down the page)
http://www.owl-video.co.uk/news.html
http://www.virtualcedia.com/videowrapup.html (Ok, so it does look good on the outside... if it had a 1280 by 720 native output (or 1280 by 1024), and I could afford it, I'd probably grab one... but at only 800 by 600, it's just not worth it.)
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:44 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Carlos the Jackal...
Gar : 
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:42 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Carlos the Jackal...
Gar : Sup G!
Gar ( 169.207.193.77 ) at 2:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JBC: Thanks, it is working here now.
JBC ( 207.164.221.129 ) at 2:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JT: I have seen the Sony 10HT at Ron's place was most impressed. I believe that the Seleco HT200 is a DLP as opposed to the Sony being an LCD. Although I have not seen the Seleco I have heard that it is quite spectacular.
For me, I would probably go with the Sont becasue it is a 16:9 panel. Unless the Seleco is a 16:9 panel, which I understand it is not, you will not be able to resolve 720p in all its glory, which you can do on the Sony.
Ron H, anything else to add?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:40 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
JT: I read somewhere that the seleco was overpriced for the performance it gave compared to all the other projectors on the market. Don't remember where I saw that so it's really not much help.
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 2:35 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Sony 10ht vs Seleco HT200
OK guys. My dealer buddy is trying to talk me into buying a Seleco HT200 instead of the Sony 10ht I was planning on buying. Has anyone seen the new Seleco? Opinions? I also need to find mounting and throw specs for both projectors in the next couple of days. I'm planning on getting a Gray Hawk screen that will be fixed-mounted in built-in cabinetry. I will need to find details on how the screen gets mounted so I can provide the info to the guy who will build the cabintes. I meet with my builder, electrician and wiring/HT guy on Friday and have to let them know where to place everything, so I really need some help!! Thanks!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:29 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
ebay
RickMTB: thanks for the link, at least I know how high not to go.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 2:26 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
ebay
BC: Maybe you might also give this a look-see:
http://www.stereofactoryoutlet.com/
JBC ( 207.164.221.129 ) at 2:26 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Gar: No problems here with AudiogoN!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 2:24 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Darian: Darian,
Thanks for the info/advice! The challenge has been that my house here in Houston (read: concrete slab, ground floor of a two story house) was pre-wired for surround sound but they termeinated the speaker wires to a small cabinet next to the fireplace while the only realistic place to put the equipment (TV, receiver, large entertainment center cabinet) is on the only continuous wall directlty opposite to where they terminated the wires. Thus I need to run wires under the carpet to where the receiver and TV are. Hope you don't mind answering a few dumb questions: what is "seaming it in"? Would running the wires directly across the floor under the carpet be bad (otherwise the wires would have to take a very circuitous route along the side wall with then windows since the other "side" has a open stair well and "hall" to the front door)? Last question... any rough idea what a carpet installer would charge to do this type of job? Again, many thanks!
JBC ( 207.164.221.129 ) at 2:20 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
BC: Yes. No reserve means that there is no minimum price required!
Joe ( 64.12.101.173 ) at 2:14 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Cajun
IF you would consider paying $225 for (4) bootlegged Star Wars movies, why even ask here? Why would anyone in his right mind pay that to promote the priating of movies?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:12 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
ebay
Can someone explain ebay to me. I registered and just bid on a single marantz ma700. There is no reserve. If I am the high bidder, is the seller obligated to sell it to me at that price?
Gar ( 169.207.193.77 ) at 2:07 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Audiogon
Someone try there server, I can get to there main page but can't get into anything else?
Gar ( 169.207.193.77 ) at 2:06 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Carlos the Jackal...
Carlos: Whatsssssssssss Uppppppp!!!!!
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:05 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Carlos the Jackal...
Scott "popcorn": =-o
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:03 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Loft HT
New York Area HTOC members: Try and keep a weekend clear towards the end of February... I would like to invite you all over to enjoy a few movies, beers and a great view of Manhattan.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.223 ) at 1:57 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
SUVs
Carlos:Put well
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.228 ) at 1:56 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
SUVs
Carlos: Hey Carlos the Jackal... We've been looking for you and now we've caught you... (Carlos proceeds to wet his pants...) Summary of "True Lies" hydroelectric dam scene
Ron H ( 63.24.183.223 ) at 1:55 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
SUVs
Carlos: whell said.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 1:48 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
SUVs
How old are you guys? You guys sound like children saying SUVs are either for men or women... Grow up, it doesn’t matter! LOL
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:48 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Another computer quandry
Kieran: Regardless of which store you use, you are going to pay sales tax - no advantage there. Print out the LA store prices and bring them to the attention of a supervisor at the SF store. See what that gets you - nothing to lose. Ten dollars is not a terrific savings, I would pick the equipment up at the store and save angst.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:48 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Another computer quandry
Kieran:
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.219.254 ) at 1:47 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Star Wars DVD's
Guys, I found a guy that's legit and he has all four DVD movies recorded in 5.1. They are pirated copies made from Asian released laser discs. Is 225 bucks too much to pay for these?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.228 ) at 1:41 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Another computer quandry
Kieran: Tough call... What about return policies? With the City-com, you have an easier time of exchanging/returning any defective parts, from a geographical standpoint... You'll need to check their policy to see if it is equally better.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.228 ) at 1:39 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Durango
Kieran: (Exploder/Blazer/Ranger/Tacoma)
I REALLY hope that was a typo... I love driving Dad's '96 Explorer...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.228 ) at 1:37 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Tony C: Trucks are for men, SUVs are for women.
I disagree. Trucks are for rural people... but they don't hack it very well in the city (easy to steal stuff out of the bed)... And a camper shell just turns it into a less-than-user-friendly SUV (with that wall in the middle)... the smaller cutesy and high-end name SUV's are for women... All other SUV's are for men.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:29 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Another computer quandry
Okay, so I've finalized my list of parts for the new computer. The question is, where to buy it? www.mwave.com has the best prices by a long shot. They are located in the Los Angeles area. The next best place that I'm considering, called www.city-com.com is near Curtis' neck of the woods, about a 90 minute drive from me. At mwave I can get everything, including tax and 3-day ups shipping, for about $10 LESS than at City-com. However, I'm going to be down in the area of City-com this weekend anyway, and if I pick up everything I'd avoid the risk inherent in shipping. I don't feel that buying from City-com is really supporting a local shop, because they're primarily a web-based e-tailer anyway. Also, I emailed them and they refused to match Mwave's prices.
What to do?
Robert ( 63.11.58.230 ) at 1:17 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Chris L
Get my email?
Wild Bill ( 32.102.157.194 ) at 1:14 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New house question(long)
Chris L.: You are right. There was no reason for the rudeness. I did not mean to imply that there was. There is far too little politeness in this world.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:06 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New Vinyl
Tony C:
Out of curiosity, do you have regular access to new vinyl records at a discount? I am interested in the Patricia Barber - Nightclub
and Diana Krall - When I look into your eyes. The Barber record is retailing for $30.00. To me that is a bit rich. The CD is about $14.00, but I prefer the vinyl sound.
Thank you.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.72 ) at 1:00 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New house question(long)
Wild Bill: Even so, still no excuse for being rude to his wife.
Robert ( 63.11.61.231 ) at 12:32 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Back on Topic
With all of this Car talk anybody have any good CD's or DVD's we should be watching? I've watched Dinosaur the other day and agree with GAR, great disc, although not good for those younger than say 5, can you say oops, I had the demo DVD from disney awhile back and didn't even consider they might have cut out the scene in the opening whereby the "carnitore" eats the hapless dinosaur.OOPS. Yea my 3 1/2 year old saw that,,now he imitates it with his toys,,,great Rob, just great,,sorry honey.
Enya's new CD is pretty good, not as good as previous ones, but if you like her music, a must get.
Tony C, I'm still waiting for Sarah McLachlan's latest,,whens it due?
Robert ( 63.11.61.231 ) at 12:27 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Durango
Kieran: Somebody else told me the same thing "go for the 4.7 or the 5.9,you can skip the 5.2" The 4.7 was exactly what you said, more power and better mileage than the 5.2. My father in law has a Dakota extra cab, and that's a good driving truck as well. I remember when this line of vehicles came out, R&T and Motor (Not-So) Trend thought Dodge hit the nail on the head by making it the size it is. Couldn't agree more.
Did I ever mention I test drove an Excursion for a couple of days last summer (great lease rate $3K down and $350 mo/3yrs), that thing is way to friggin big!!!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:17 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Durango
Robert: After I did all the research and footwork and relationship-building with the dealer, (from buying my Dakota) my girlfriend bought a 2000 Durango, w/ the 5.2L engine. I wanted her to get the 4.7L SOHC v8, but they didn't have any at our dealer, and she sort of needed it "the day before" if you know what I mean (of course we didn't let the dealer know that). Anyway, we LOVE the Durango. WB is right, the extra seat does make a difference. Also, we've been camping several times in it, and we just put the seats down and sleep in back. I'm 6'7" and it's just fine. Anyway, if you don't need the max power&torque of the 5.9, I'd recommend the 4.7 over the 5.2, especially in the Durango. The tranny that comes with the 4.7L was specially designed to go with that engine for the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee when that engine debuted. It drives VERY nice... it's smoother (IMHO) and has slightly better fuel economy. And IIRC, the 4.7L has just a tad more power and/or torque than the 5.2. Some old-school Dodge fans prefer the 5.2 because it is a proven engine (been around since... what? 1962 or something?) ...classic Chysler pushrod V8. The 5.2 definitely SOUNDS better than the 4.7... throatier. But overall I prefer the 4.7. One of my best buddies bought a '99 JGC with the 4.7 and that auto tranny that goes with it... very quick, very smooth, great shifting.
Anyway, just thought I'd share my thoughts on the Durango. IMHO, the Dakota and Durango are great "just right sized" vehicles... not too big (Suburpan/Expursion/F-Series/Silverado) and not to small (Exploder/Blazer/Ranger/Tacoma).
AVB ( 64.41.33.21 ) at 12:06 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JBC/Darian: Cinepro will sell the new faceplate. It is $155 plus shipping.
JBC ( 207.164.221.192 ) at 12:00 PM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
AVB, Darian: I would agree with AVB's pricing on the Cinepro as I have been looking on the boards lately. One caveat, perhaps Cinepro will sell you a MKIII faceplate. If the cost is minimal you may have a net gain due to the increase in sale price. Further, the new faceplates are up on the Cinepro website!
AVB ( 64.41.33.21 ) at 11:56 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
I know I am going to regret this...
Darian: The one 1K2SE I saw for sale went of $1850. The few 3K6SEII's I've seen were $3200-4250. There is a 3K6SE (first version) on ebay right now for $3K. For a 3K6SEIII it might be a tougher sell because of the II faceplate unless you happen to find somebody that knows about this stuff. I'd guess that $4750 may be a going price IF you found a informed buyer. Otherwise you may be down around $4250. JMHO.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 11:54 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
CuRTis: 13/15/17 mpg??? Damn! That's a little worse than my Dakota gets, which also has a V8, but is admittedly heavier and less aerodynamic! Those numbers are very surprising to me! Oh, well! Still a cool auto! B. may approve this one, while J. will be "rolling her eyes"! LOL!
AVB ( 64.41.33.21 ) at 11:49 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Major changes
Wild Bill: They are pretty big at 49x21.5x18 (hwd). If you want them maybe we can work out a deal. Email me and we'll talk.
Robert ( 63.11.51.17 ) at 11:42 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Durango
Wild Bill: Similar situation here, we drove mom's Mercury Version of the Exploder for a couple of months and found there really wasn't much room so we went with the mini van, it can tow a boat and be the taxi. But lacks 4x for the winter's so the Durango may be it. Thanks.
Darian ( 66.44.12.211 ) at 11:39 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
RickMTB: Yeah on the one. Have the Carpet guys pull it up and then "Seam it in". Carpet guys know the term. Usually a good idea to just run the wire along the base board. Then when the carpet guy gets there show him where you need the wire to come out. First he will pull up the side around the base borad. Then he should lay the carpet next to the tac strip. Carpet will need to be seemed where it comes out... Kick the trm back and a there you have it.
What are you trying to get to again?
Darian ( 66.44.12.211 ) at 11:34 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
I know I am going to regret this...
Need some advice guys...
We are going to make some changes at the install company I work for. These changes will include having some different products and some lines. If things go the way they are looking like they will I need to change some of my HT gear. Basically my stuff is what most would consider demo gear. I need to know so fair pricing for the following.
Demos
Cinepro 1k2se ($2795) Few months
Cinepro 3k6seIII/II Face plate ($7495) Few Months
NHT AC-2 ($850) 1+year
NHT 2.9 pair ($2500) 1+year
MHT 1.5 pair ($650) 1+year
Not demo
Also HSU TN 1220s with Active crossover. ($1300) 2 years
Wild Bill ( 32.102.157.197 ) at 11:32 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Gas Mileage
Robert: Except for the gas mileage we are quite satisifed with the Durango. The ride is definitely "truck-like" but we're used to it. That 3rd seat in the back really comes in handy. We are usually hauling a group of girls to Girl Scout functions, carpooling to school, going to swimming. We had an Explorer before and you could only fit 3 kids in the Explorer. We can now carry 5 kids and an adult in the passenger seat. My kids won't be old enough to ride in the front seat for a few years.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 11:29 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians (update) - Running wire under carpet
Called a few of the places... net seems to be I will call a few carpet places, have them pull the carpet and trim, then I will run the wire (Monster Superflat), then have them reinstall and stretch the carpet. I figure the Superflat will leave the least possible "ridge", but any other suggestions on how to best protect the cable (eg. run it alongside a carpet tacking strip)? Thanks!
Darian ( 66.44.12.211 ) at 11:21 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JeffS: My HSUs require spikes. I tried laying them down behind the couch and they did provide some tactile effect. They also slid a little bit and this takes away from the driver excersion. Stood them up, tied them together, and put on the spikes. They get the WOW effect from people most of the time.
Robert ( 63.11.51.17 ) at 11:15 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Gas Mileage
Wild Bill: How do you like you Durango?,,,we were this close () from buying one ourselves, but the test drive ride was way stiff. But last month when we rented one,, it drove great, so I think this summer we may sell our minivan and pony up.
Jeff S. ( 32.97.110.67 ) at 11:15 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Subwoofers (update)
For those who saw my post a few weeks back about subwoofers and whether anyone had used floor spikes, I decided to buy some and try them out. Well, IMHO they mad a big difference. Right away I knew I was going to have to re-tweak the system. It seems that if your sub is sitting atop of thick carpet, the spikes couple the cabinet to the floor beneath. The perception is that you could now feel the bass in the floor under your feet where as before it was just sonic bass tones in the air. I think there is less cabinet resonance as well which helps the bass feel tighter. Anyway, for about $20 bucks per cabinet, it's an inexpensive thing to try if your sub is sitting on carpet without spikes.
Wild Bill ( 32.102.157.197 ) at 11:15 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JBC: Unfortunately, my SUV is thirstier.
Robert ( 63.11.51.17 ) at 11:13 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Curtis's new girly toy
At least it's a 4.4 and not the 3.0 !!!!!! NO girly engine there!!!
Wild Bill ( 32.102.157.197 ) at 11:13 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Gas Mileage
CuRTis: We'd love to get that kind of mileage. We have a 5.9L Dodge Durango. 9mpg in the city and about 15 on the highway if we're lucky.
Robert ( 63.11.51.17 ) at 11:12 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New house question(long)
Wild Bill: Funny Wild Bill that you mention nail pops, here in my MN house there are a TON of nail pops,,don't builders use drywall screws everywhere? We never had them (nail pops)in our last house because they used drywall screws.
And Cytotech, Wild BIll's right, it's a sellers market, you may have to decide what is important and what is not,,,I know Curtis has shed some light on this phenomenon, and when I sold my last house, I too was the benefactor of a bidding war, let's see, take the lower offer and replace the carpet and repaint,,,or take the $10K more offer and don't have to do anything,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,No brainer. But you are absolutly right to have the builder fix any items that are less than the way it should be. Good luck.
Wild Bill ( 32.102.157.197 ) at 11:05 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Major changes
AVB: I'd love to help you out...but...being newly self-employed and all the funds just aren't there. There's also my room size to deal with. I have a feeling that those towers would occupy some major real estate in the room.
Wild Bill ( 63.23.102.195 ) at 10:59 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
New house question(long)
Cytotech: Wall dings are going to happen and are completely unavoidable. If they are very minor I would let them slide. Chris is mistaken about today's real estate market. The thought process of builders right now is that if you don't buy it, then someone else will tomorrow. It is a sellers market. The rest of your concerns are 100% valid and should be addressed. I wouldn't worry about nail pops. You'll be fixing those for years to come. 
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.27.10 ) at 10:59 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
RPTV
Darian: Still in my mind...I have your email sorry about lack of replies. I hope to know for sure within a few weeks thinking about using a CC to buy a tv as much as I hate to be in debt. I paid off all bills and debts in December, not sure I want to go back into debt until I buy my home. If you know of someone that wants to take it off your hands...I would completly understand if you sold it.
I would find it hard to hold on someone that wasnt sure. Such as myself.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.27.10 ) at 10:56 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
HDTV under 45" your opinion.
If you had to pick a HDTV under 45"...what would you go with?
Thanks
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.101 ) at 10:55 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Tony C: LOL. I know what frugal, midwestern or elsewhere, means. I don't have one of those in my head. I have a real, live Michigander tightwad! Thanks Dad, wherever you are
I agree that SUV's are mostly appealing to women (hey, another reason to get one!). It's no M5 but it gets out of its own way just fine.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:54 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
B&O - NTSC
I have a friend who owns a B&O TV that was bought in Europe.
He needs to convert from PAL to NTSC.
Any ideas where to start?
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.27.10 ) at 10:53 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
CuRTis: Good choice my friend. If I had to turn around and buy a new car right now I would pick up a 330xi. The Ultimate Driving Machine.
Darian ( 66.44.12.211 ) at 10:53 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
RPTV
Scott Veirs: Never heard back from you about my Sony.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.27.10 ) at 10:51 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
RPTV
As much as I would prefer a nice FPTV - I have decided to go with RP...due to price and ease of set up. Since I am doing my best to save for a house...I think I will hold off on a large HDTV...I think I will go for a smaller one under 45" This will work well and still allow for it to go into another room when I upgrade to FPTV in 80 years. ok, more like 4 years.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:17 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Joe: Now see, you have an excuse to buy an SUV. You have a wife and a baby (soon). The SUV will make your wife feel safer. And you can look sporty too.
For yourself, you need a truck.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:54 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
trucks & suv's
scott - I just bought a toyota tacoma double cab. I looked at and drove the sporttrac and the dakota but went with the double cab. You may check it out. I am very happy with it. Of course, it doesn't come in a standard either.
All - I may have a buyer for my RP! If so, I am gonna make the jump to FP!
Curtis - I love the X5. I went to this thing put on by mercedes called the powertrip. We got to put an ML55 threw its paces on 3 different tracks they had set up at the TX motor speedway. They also had an X5 and the lexus for comparison. All I drove was the ML55 but I prefer the look of the X5. And if it handles half as well as the ML55 (which I know it does), it will be a blast to drive!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 9:49 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Houstonians
Just got a new phone book, and a new list of HT specialists in the Montgomery county area (looks like mostly Conroe): Advance Audio Design, Digitech, Jobe Systems, Video Services and More, and Airwave Alternatives. I have scaled back to the "simply get the Mirage AVS system up and running" so I am calling around to have someone run the wires (under the couch.. I am a coward about pulling the carpet and trim and re-securing it without trashing the living room). Maybe this summer I will rethink my setup and catch the upgrade bug that courses through this web site...
AVB ( 64.41.32.138 ) at 9:42 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JBC: The Sony 9000 doesn't have true 7.1 but a quasi version with the new software upgrade. My rear/sides will be fed with the same signal i.e. left will go to left rear and side and right ti the right rear and side. The layout of my room is such that the rears and the side speakers are the same distance from the main seating area. so that is why I think it will work very well.
Joe ( 205.188.199.31 ) at 9:15 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
AVB
JBC: I am also curious does the Sony have 7.1?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 8:44 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
CuRTis: Am I missing something, or didn't you just buy an old model Datsun something-or-other? This new toy looks really nice.
Joe ( 205.188.195.27 ) at 8:40 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Tony C: In my best Manly Man voice, I have to turn in my Tahoe in 2 months. I was gooing to get another one except a 4 door this time, guess I had better get a truck
JBC ( 207.164.221.149 ) at 8:40 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Curtis: No kidding! What do you think I meant by "... it only gets 1 block to the gallon". That pup has to be the thirstiest SUV alive!
JBC ( 207.164.221.149 ) at 8:39 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
AVB: Cool on the speakers. I agree that you will likely be better off with the sides and rears mounted off the ground! Two follow ups:
a) I know that you have a Sony pre/pro. How long has it had 7.1 capability? I must have had my head in the sand.
b) What other infor did Eric give you, if any, on the new PPs?
Joe ( 205.188.195.27 ) at 8:38 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Cryo
YEs you did the right thing. The one that jumped out at me was the garden tub. Tubs are suppose to have a mortor base to sit on. It is alot quicker to slip a few 2'x4' under the tub to support it, however it si then not installed right. Since it was not installed right it could crack or void the manufactures warrenty. If you have a access door or a way to check see how the tub is supported. Get the installation instutions, ask the uy how the tubs was supported. Fixing or replacing a large tub later could be a major pain.
Also did you plug a lamp into every outlet and try every switch?
Ron H ( 63.24.183.215 ) at 8:24 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Good Morning all.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:21 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
CuRTis: I remember you talking about the X5 before. I'm glad you're getting it. This cheap (frugal) midwesterner likes to see others spend money.
Mostly, I think SUVs are for women. They want to feel safe. The want to sit high, like in a minivan. Trucks are for men, SUVs are for women.
Especially the Mercedes and the Lexus. "They're so cuuuutttee!"
However, if I had a deal for the X5, I would gladly take it.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.215 ) at 8:08 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Good Morning all.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.101 ) at 8:00 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JBC: No, try horrible mileage. EPA Size Class Sport Utility Vehicle - 4WD
Fuel Type Premium
MPG (city) 13
MPG (highway) 17
MPG (combined) 15
AVB ( 64.41.32.153 ) at 7:58 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JBC: I am keeping the Tower III's. The 404s will be for rear and sides, they are having different tweeters put in them. VMPS says that this is the next best match to the ribbon fronts. The center at the moment is a QSO 626, and will be a special edition of the same with ribbon mid and tweeter later in the year. This speaker isn't listed on the website. For the rears and sides I don't think that the ribbon tweeter is as important as the front. My original setup evolved because I had so many VMPS towers it was the best way to use them all. Now I think I will get better surround with the 4 smaller speakers mounted higher instead of the two towers on the floor. With the VMPS sub in the rear to handle the bass I don't think I will be losing much if anything on the low end.
JBC ( 207.164.221.148 ) at 7:37 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
AVB: I must be brain dead. I thought that you dumping your towers in favor of the QSO 404s. Now I am thinking that:
a) you are keeping the Super Tower IIIs for the left and right; and
b) you are using the QSO 404 for the SR and SL.
Which is correct?
What are you using for a centre?
Also, the 404s do not have a ribbon tweeter -- I thought that this is what you loved so very much about the VMPS speakewrs?
What gives?
JBC ( 207.164.221.148 ) at 7:34 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
AVB: OK... you have peaked my interest. What customization are you having done?
AVB ( 64.41.32.153 ) at 7:12 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
JBC: The new speakers are on the VMPS website sorta. I'm getting modified versions of the QSO 404. A little cusomization that isn't listed as an option. The speakers I am keeping are here: http://www.vmpsaudio.com/st3pic.htm
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:02 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
AVB: Two quick points:
1. What I really wanted was the URL for the speakers you are keeping (i.e. not the towers).
2. What else did Eric tell you about the new PPs other than they would be out late this month?
Curtis: Nice ride. My freiend has one, he tells me that the expensive part is not buying it but feeding it! I think itgets about 1 block to the gallon, and only takes the premium stuff!
Kieran ( 172.147.156.89 ) at 2:29 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Scott "popcorn": Well, I just went over to www.edmunds.com and besides the fact that I hate what they've done with the web site, you're right about the Sport-Trac. You can't get the sport package and the stick. Blame the marketing dopes. You can bet there are Mechanical Engineers there at Ford that are pulling their hair out over that one.... and lots of old time Ford fans that are pissed, too. Re. Expedition and Excursion, I'm not surprised that you can't get a stick in those. But check out the equivalent F-Series trucks... If they've taken sticks away from them too, then they've really lost their marbles.
Re. that fun to drive truck that you'd like... check out the Dakota. More towing capacity than most sane people would ever want, even with the manual.
Re. why autos have higher tow ratings: It's all about the clutch, my friend. A manual can actually tow more, once it's engaged, however 1st gear is usually not low enough to get a big load started. Due to the nature of how auto-tranny's work, they can take the load from a stand still better. What they used to offer, was a granny gear for towing w/ a manual transmission. This gear would be comparable to the 4WD low-range that most part-time 4wd trucks have. This would get the rig moving w/o burning out the clutch and/or stalling the engine, then you could shift up into higher gears, and ultimately have a very high tow rating (assuming your suspension could hack it.) Honestly, it's really the suspension that determines the ultimate tow rating on a vehicle... which is why most trucks are offered with a stiffer suspension as an option: it increases your towing capacity.
It's getting late... bed time.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 2:11 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
I'm seeing how many times I can use the word "too" have you noticed that too?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 2:10 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Kieran: Talking about all this stuff... Have you tried playing 4X4 EVO yet? It's a pretty fun game, and you can download a track editor to make your own tracks too... You get to buy and customize your vehicle too... with a fairly good selection
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 2:08 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Kieran: Oh, one more thing... in the brochure (includes the entire Ford SUV lineup), it doesn't list a manual transmission on any engine larger than 4 liters... That means no manual in an Excursion or an Expedition. I don't know if they'd let you special order or not... I'm pretty sure the engines listed are the same that are available with the F-SD series, which all can be had with a manual tranny... It's just the SUV's that are lacking in the manual tranny department.
All: Welcome to the Auto Forum! We will return you to your normal broadcasting soon.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 2:04 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Kieran: Well, it's not like I'm buying now... so I haven't asked a dealer specifically... But the brochures imply that you can only get certain trim levels with a manual...
Gee, I wonder if when the time comes I can get an Explorer Sport Trac with the F-SD series Powerstroke Diesel and 6 speed manual. hehehe
Actually, I'm still disappointed in the towing specs... See, what I'd like is a "fun, everyday" truck that gets the job done, is fun to drive (aka manual tranny), is reasonably fuel efficient, but can tow enough when needed... (with some nice things, like auto climate control... though I think the dual-zone climate control is a bit foolish), and then have a "family truck" that is really nice, holds a lot of people and stuff, automatic, etc... Oh well... I'm just dreaming...
Kieran ( 172.147.156.89 ) at 1:55 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Scott "popcorn": You can get a stick and all the trims... I'm living proof. Remember the Truck I bought last year (Oct '99 actually)? It has EVERY single option available, except for the auto tranny. It's a Dodge Dakota SLT+ with all the bells and whistles, the 4.7L v8, AND the 5 speed manual transmission. Hard to find those on dealer lots though, so hard in fact that I had to order mine. The cool part was when it arrived, the window sticker said, "built especially for Kieran Coghlan" This is MY truck, and I have the sticker to prove it!
Some vehicles just aren't available at ALL w/ a manual any more, no matter how low on the trim-totem-pole you go. In that case, you're screwed, and have to get the auto if you want that car. However, IF a manual is available at SOME trim level, you USUALLY (not always) can get it all the way up... you may just have to special order like I did. Some engines are available only with a certain tranny. But, I found that it was very rare actually that a trim package precluded a manual transmission. I did see it happen, but it was RARE. I haven't checked, but it surprises me that you say the Ford is one of the culprits. Ford is known for letting the customer order up any hair-brained combination of options they want on their trucks.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.36 ) at 1:47 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
Kieran: Tks man, I thought you would like it. To answer your questions:
1) No, I'm keeping the (nearly disposable ZX Turbo for when I want that 4 wheeled motorcycle thing, and
2) It's a 4 door. BMW doesn't make a 2 door X5. The stupid database for the classified listing has it that ALL X5's are 2 doors. DOH!
It's a great help to hear a sign of encouragement from a friend. Try as I might, I must agree with you ... it's perfect for my needs/ wants. There's just this nagging midwesterner in me that keeps on saying "you're gonna spend how much for a Jeep?"
I could sell it for more next week if I didn't like it - not like it's a huge risk or anything.
No loans here thank you. All cash or I'm not doing the deal. Borrowing sucks, period.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 1:40 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Kieran: Oh yeah, one more beef... (I haven't checked GM SUV's for this, not a GM fan) but when a model line DOES offer a manual transmission, once you up the trim level, you can't get the manual tranny anymore... I mean gee... I can't have 16" wheels, two-tone paint, leather seats, CD changer, automatic climate control, AND a manual? I guess they look at people who drive sticks as cavemen... ARGH.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 1:36 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Kieran: The thing that really disappoints me about vehicles nowadays is that you can't find many (SUV class anyway) that have manual transmissions. Those that do have very low tow ratings (what's up with THAT? I thought manuals could tow MORE than autos) for example, a Ford Explorer Sport Trac, 4x4, otherwise equally outfitted, the 5 speed manual can tow 2500lbs, while the auto tows 5000lbs (rounded to a nearby 100)... But, when you get into engines about 5.4 liter and up, then the manual tranny tows as much as the auto... but you get a good loss of fuel economy at that point. I'm just flat disappointed.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 1:32 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
Kieran: hehehe... I know... I'm just trying to get his mouth and actions to fit together.
Kieran ( 172.147.156.89 ) at 1:20 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
out = our
Kieran ( 172.147.156.89 ) at 1:20 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
Scott "popcorn": We all know about the famous "I'm done" post from Curtis... remember? When he bought his Paradigm active mains and center? "I'm done upgrading.... now I'm just going to sit back and laugh at all you guys who keep spending..." or something like that! LOL! Now that I've met Curtis, I think that he'll NEVER be done upgrading... he's too much of a kid inside, just like the rest of us! We gotta have out toys! (That's a complement, BTW, C-dude!)
Kieran ( 172.147.156.89 ) at 1:16 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
CuRTis: Right ON! That's a sweet vehicle, IMHO. Not my choice for an off-roader, but I know that's not what you want it for, and I think that it is perfect for you. So, does this mean you're selling the Z-Car already? I know you had some nice offers for it... Seriously, I think the X5 is a great choice for you, in form, fit and function! Good luck if you do decide to buy it! Also, the picture shows a 4-door, the ad says 2-door... which is it? I didn't know there was a 2-door version.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 12:23 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
CuRTis: I wish I had your disposable income... Oh, and never say "I'm done"... because you will almost certainly eat your words.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.166 ) at 12:22 AM EST Tuesday, February 6, 2001
Cell phone/MP3 Player
Tony C: Might that be the same as an Iomega "Clik" disk? Actually, I think Iomega renamed it to mini-Zip or something like that. little 40 meg removable about the size you mentioned.
Gar ( 169.207.194.207 ) at 11:59 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
I am not in the market for a car(Friend is), never had a car payment nor do I want one. Leaves more money for HT and Audio Although we have a contest for work, and the winner gets there choice of the SUV you posted or the new Lexus for a year. Too bad the winner doesn't get a chance to keep it.
Gar ( 169.207.194.207 ) at 11:55 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
CuRTis: That's Ironic! I just test drove that one with one of my friends. Very nice, handles like a sports car which can be dangerous.
Make sure it has the anit-role sensor device that is built in to some newer
SUVs, it made a huge difference when we test drove the Mercedes...
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.36 ) at 11:48 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
MAJOR upgrade ... then I'm done
I'm likely going to buy this from a good friend. Ignaore the asking price, she'll sell to me at her rock bottom price.
Every possible option is included. The thing is in showroom condition. What do y'all think of this?
http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C16+A0+R197259+Q356946896
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.36 ) at 11:46 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
House question(long)
Cytotech: ROTFLMAO! If you only knew that that FP was left sitting on the sellers front porch waiting for the truck to pick it up for 8 hours last Friday!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.96 ) at 11:36 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
AVB; I wish we lived closer together! I'd gladly pick up your hand me downs.
AVB ( 64.41.32.177 ) at 11:24 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Thisa & Thata
JBC: Here is a description of the SE models I have for sale http://www.vmpsaudio.com/str1doc.htm , here is a pic http://www.vmpsaudio.com/strpic.htm
The other pair up for grabs I have is an older (1994) non-SE version and there is no URL for it. However, here is a review of the 1989 version of these towers. Mine have upgraded drivers but are pretty much the same. http://www.vmpsaudio.com/am891.htm
I had an email from Eric last month that said they would be out late this month. Oh well.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.96 ) at 11:21 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Bagman; Tuner is boxed and waiting!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.96 ) at 11:19 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Curtis; Good choice! The Motorola Vader is a piece of crap! A small piece of crap, but still....
Cytotech; Your paying the $$$, you should be satisfied! When I bought my house, the sellers agreed to fix what we thought needed repair. After they saw our list, they agreed to drop the price, so we could make repairs.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:09 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Thisa & Thata
Ron H: Take me off the list of HTers getting their toys this week. The rears are stuck inVancouver. I have rescheduled installation for Tuesday of next week. Also, with respect to the amp, you will get it on Wednesday as I sent it two days economy -- still cost US$150!
Ccytotech: You did the 100% right thing! Also, consider yourself fortunate, once again for not living in Canada. Not only are we taxed to hell as I mentioned earlier but... mortgage payments are not tax deductible. That is correct -- the entire nut is paid with after tax income!
AVB: Two quick points:
a) Thanks for the PSA on the PP20. I am entering the fray! As an aside, I got an e-mail from eric mentioning that new versions of the PP would be out in late summer/early fall!
b) How about a picture of your gear! For now, I would settle with the URL for your VMPS speakers!!!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:51 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Cell phone/MP3 Player
CuRTis: Have you heard of Data Play? It's a small disc, the size of a quarter that will be the memory to everything...Games, PDA's/Phones, Music PLayers, E-Books, Handheld PCs, etc.
Supposedly it won "Best Of Show" at CES. Best New Product, Best Mobile Device and Best Of Show - All Products.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.111 ) at 10:32 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
House question(long)
CuRTis: Well, sh*t Curtis! This is Alabama! $1 million homes go for $154,000 while $28,000 projectors go for $700! It's crazy!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.36 ) at 10:15 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Cell phone/MP3 Player
I dropped my cellphone one too many times. I went to the store to buy the Motorola Vader but ended up buying something that does much more for the same price.
The Samsung UpRoar, mdl SPH-M100is both a fullfeatured dual band cellphone & a 64MB MP3 player. Comes complete with stereo earpods w/ inline microphone for hands free cell operation & USB cord to allow you to raid Napster. Even my 13 y-o son is jealous. The thing is less than 1/2 the size of a pack of cigs. Cost is about the same as a good MP3 player alone.
AVB ( 64.41.32.177 ) at 10:04 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
CuRTis: Come on out here to the wilds of southern York county PA. 2500sqft brick house on an acre is about $150-175K. 50 minutes from BWI airport and cable modem available in some areas but not exactly where I'm at.
AVB ( 64.41.32.177 ) at 10:01 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Major changes
RickMTB: VMPS models to keep the timbre match. The are not micros at all but 18x12x9 (hwd) and 20 lbs each. They are micro compared to the 52x19x17 220 lbs towers they will replace.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.36 ) at 9:53 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Cytotech: That's the price for an entire house?! That wouldn't buy you a tool shead on a 4'x8' slab within a 50 mile radius of here. As Kieran pointed out prices here are simply insane. Case in point: The house 1/2 mile down the road that I own 50% of with my ex goes on the market this weekend. It's a 50's drafty house of 1,100 sq ft tiny place in a nice neighborhood, yet easily th nicest house on the block with a redwood hot tub, perfect gardens, new hardwood floors, new roof. Asking price? $699,990. Our realtor says nothing else on the market comes close to it & to expect a very quick bidding war. It may well sell for $800K, all cash, as-is, within one whole week.
This is madness but at least I'm on the receiveing end of it. I can afford to buy into this market yet I refuse to, even renting for now is far & away preferable because I'm outta here once my youngest hits college in a few short years.
Any more nice homes available in your area? All I need is FedEx availability, a fast Net connection and an airport within 90 minutes drive.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.175 ) at 9:52 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Major changes
AVB: sorta curious... which bookshelf speakers(as someone who went from floorstanders to micro-sized bookshelf speakers)?
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.113 ) at 9:49 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Derb: That's what our agent told us. Thanks for the reply.
Derb ( 199.174.4.227 ) at 9:47 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Cytotech: You did the right thing. I also purchased a track home. I stopped by once in the morning going to work and once in the evening. I would mark everything I did not like with orange construction paint. Hell, they didn't know who marked it and it would get fixed. Went through four walk throughs with the builder. Framing, wall board, final paint, and closing. At each step I tried to get to now the workers on sight and bring a couple beers at the end of the day. Get want you want done now because they are a pain to get back later. Good Luck
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.113 ) at 9:47 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Ron H: And I haven't ordered it yet. I figure I have until the end of Feb.
All who've responded: Thanks guys. That makes me feel better.
BTW, the wall/door I said was out of plumb? It is 4" out at the top! Now THAT'S rediculous!
I just can't believe I didn't notice it before the drywall was up.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.113 ) at 9:44 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Ron H: The fellow said he would have to query Stewart for the price on my particular screen(120" 16x9 Luxus Deluxe). He said the sale prices are 10% off their(AVS' I assume) normal prices, which I hope are lower than MSRP.
AVB ( 64.41.33.231 ) at 9:41 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Major changes
I'm joining the world of the normal folks. Gone are my tower rears and center. In their place are 4 bookshelf speakers mounted 6' up. 2 sides and 2 rears along with the extra VMPS Larger sub I had hanging around. I'm back to a 2 sub system at the moment with the GMAS in front and the VMPS in back out of phase. The center is now something smaller to fit under the new screen (non-perfed). Sold the Runco for parts, sold the old screen and center tower but still have a set of VMPS towers to move out.
C'mon Wild Bill, for about a grand you can have a set of serious towers. I need to move them out.
AVB ( 64.41.33.231 ) at 9:33 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Cytotech: You did the right thing. If the builders/sellers don't want to fix it let them break the contract and then you can have their n*ts in a vise. You'll never get it perfect but there is a certain level of quality that has to be attained.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.225 ) at 9:19 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Cytotech: Did you get a good quote and order the GrayHawk???
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 9:17 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Cytotech: Sorry I can't answer your question, but my gut tells me you were not in the wrong. And, no offense to what I'm about to say, but...
Curtis: Did the number $154,000 make you think "downpayment" when you read it too?
{b;Cyto:]Housing prices are just so damn outta line here in California that it's sad. Anybody who buys in this market (in NorCal) is just an idiot, IMHO. The only way the prices will come down, is if people stop buying, but they just keep on doing it!!! 
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 9:14 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
Cytotech: You're buying a new house. Big expense. I think, IMHO, that you have every right to be picky. If the super's going to be a jerk about it, let him know that there are always other options...which there are. I wouldn't mind fixing up a place (actually I prefer it) but if the seller is going to treat me like shit I'll look elsewhere. Again...JMHO
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.76 ) at 9:00 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
New house question(long)
OK guys, we are about to close on our new house. We were notified Saturday by our Realtor that the builder was ready to do the "walk through" asap. We decided Tue(tomorrow) would be the earliest we could do it, but wanted to go ahead through the house on our own Sunday(our realtor let us in) and make an extensive list of all problems. There are a LOT! Everything from runs in the carpet, to scratches on the hardwood floors, to tears/gouges in the vinyl in the kitchen. There are also NUMEROUS window problems(ie: won't close/seat fully in order to allow locking, etc), as well as a crack in our garden tub, and one small wall(the door to the under stairwell closet) that is so far out of plumb it is rediculous. Also, while walking the house with the superintendant a few weeks ago, he told me if there were any places on the wall to be fixed, circle them with a penny. I did this all over the house(on some admittedly small and minor flaws(pieces of putty left, etc that make the wall rough)), as well as placed small post it notes on the walls where other problems were.
We then came home, typed up the Punch List as we saw it, and e-mailed it to our agent, who then e-mailed it to the super. Today, I had to work late(read: after dark) so I asked my wife to go by the new house on her way home to see if they had done anything. When she was about to leave the house, a supervisor came in with a different superintendant and said "See! See!" while pointing at the penny circles and post its. The Superintendant then asked Diane if she knew who made the pencil marks on the walls. She replied that we did, but that they weren't pencil marks, they were made with a penny. She then told him that the other super told us to. Anyway, she showed him several of the major concerns we had, and he was a real jerk to her. Once home, she called our agent who said not to worry about it, that we would take care of things tomorrow during the walk through. However, the builder's supers seemed pissed.
Now for the question(finally!). Do you guys think we were in the wrong for doing what we did? We realize we aren't going to get a "perfect" house, and also that this is a tract house, but still... $154,000 is a lot of money(especially to us!). Opinions please, and please excuse the extra long post.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.196 ) at 8:58 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
WHOO!
Ron H: Not 5 seconds after I hit the send key my movers called to say that the Shampoo will be delivered to my house tomorrow morning.
Life is good. Now where the hell is my FP?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 8:49 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
'bout time I changed my name link to an email one rather than my homepage...
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 8:47 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
WHOO!
CuRTis: Email comming atcha!
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.76 ) at 8:42 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
AVS Grayhawk deal
CuRTis: Thanks for noticing.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.192 ) at 8:32 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
WHOO!
CuRTis: You are on the list of this weeks happy HT'ers
Joe ( 205.188.198.164 ) at 7:41 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Darian: Cool, you know how it goes, I start thinking out loud and wondering what if.
CuRTis ( 63.93.170.130 ) at 7:15 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
WHOO!
Ron H : If my movers don't flake out again I should have two major scores arrive this week, the direct view 34" 16:9 Shampoo that was turned on one time Adn the AmPro Elite 4200/ 9" CRT FP with very low hours.
Wild Bill ( 63.24.222.204 ) at 7:08 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
WHOO!
AVB: Congrats on the 8501LC. That is one sweet machine. You are now at the tip top of the CRT projector food chain.
CuRTis ( 63.93.170.130 ) at 7:08 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Bobb: Man, has it been 5 years of this non-stop HT chatter? Good to see you around. I too went away for what seemed like years. It's amazing what great shape my bank account managed to stay in then! Another of us old timers who I have totally lost track of is Duane - also an outstanding woodworker. I know for a fact that he didn't want to be tempted into any more upgrades, so he cancelled the mag subscriptions & I doubt even lurks here at all. He's a great guy, we got together several times.
Of course now that I came back they can't get me to 1)shutup or 2)stop from upgrading! I have put together a killer 9" FP system for very little money and really should be done after I get a great screen.
Pls stay in touch. My email address is listed on my bio.
P.S. ... why do you think that I'M divorced?!
Ron H ( 63.61.205.97 ) at 6:50 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
JBC: The trip to Dallas was just cancelled. Between two large multi billion dollar companies, one web group and the current software company there appears to be too many egos in the pot. I hope no one does something stupid. If the Cinepro arrives tommorow I will be here.
AVB ( 64.41.32.150 ) at 6:50 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
PowerPro 20 PSA
New listing at Audiogon. http://gonmain.iserver.net/cgi-bin/cl.pl?accspowr&986499190
Ron H ( 63.61.205.97 ) at 6:45 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
WHOO!
AVB: Congrats. I am waiting for a full review.
All: This is heading to be a great week in HT. AVB gets a new FP, JBC gets his new M$K speakers tuesday and I get my Cinepro on Tuesday or Wednesday.
Curtis: Can I add your name to the fortunate ones that are expecting a new gear delivery this week?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:44 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
AVB: A big time congrats buddy. Suggestion -- pay your friends after the Eletrohome is hung!
AVB ( 64.41.32.150 ) at 6:37 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
WHOO!
My very own Electrohome 8501LC showed up today! Now to get it up on the ceiling and setup. Tubes look good but not perfect. You can see the pages that were displayed but it seems to have a pretty wide image so I should be albe to project in that area. All I need is about a 70 to get the width at the throw distance I'm using. Did the squeeze mod about an hour ago so now I'm just waitng for 3 warm bodies to show up to get the old one down and this one up. You gotta love friends whos motto is "we work for beer"
Gar ( 169.207.192.30 ) at 6:33 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
sony 53" XBR
BC: Digital it can be fixed! Sounds like this yahoo of a repair guy needs to read more. As is I would go for $1200 and then come down if you have to, and remind people it is an XBR Sony Hi-End line.
Gar ( 169.207.192.30 ) at 6:30 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
sony 53" XBR
Tony C:heheheh Well if your buying always look for a deal RP don't hold there value, unless you can find someone that is willing to pay you for it. Which there are plenty of people out there that will spend the money no matter what.....
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.29 ) at 6:11 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
BIG AL: There is an envelope heading north with your name on it. I may be out of touch for awhile as I think our internet service is about to run out and I'm not going to renew until we get to the new place.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:59 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
sony 53" XBR
Gar: Under a grand!!???
shit I may as well give mine to charity when it's time to sell.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:53 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
sony 53" XBR
Gar: oh, yea and it has some convergence problems. A tech that looked at it said he couldn't fix it becuase "it was digital". Now my friend thinks he has digital TV. I explained it wasn't really digital. Anyway, my friend may buy my set if he can get $500-$800 for the XBR. Then I can get a FP! That's the plan anyway.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:51 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Tony C
Robert: I am working hard. email on the way.
Gar ( 169.207.192.30 ) at 5:36 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
sony 53" XBR
BC: Cheap. If it is 5 years, under a grand...
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:25 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
sony 53" XBR
What do you guys think a 5 year old sony 53" XBR should go for?
Robert ( 63.31.176.115 ) at 5:03 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Tony C
You're working hard today
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:00 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Bobb: 1600 - 1200 = 400 (difference)
So, can we order custom made racks and DVD shelves and entertainment centers and coffee tables?
Bobb ( 207.229.2.246 ) at 4:56 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Hey guys what's the difference between the toshiba SD 1200 and the 1600 dvd players?
Hi Curtis. Actually, I'm one of the oldies...I started lurking in May 96. I used to have a Bio, but it's been deleted probably due to inactivity. I'm going no holds barred into woodworking (IE another VERY expensive hobby to start into). I try not to come here too often.... (woodworking tools+ home theater upgrades = divorce). One good thing about woodworking tools is once you have a good piece it's a keeper...My Delta Unisaw should outlive my children...Regards
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:54 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
CuRTis: Like my post said, mook. I'm sure you can make it artistic.
Start dating an interior decorator if you need help.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:52 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Drum Ear Pressure
cai: Excellent idea. Thanks, Dr. Cai.
Just submit my bill to my insurance co. Good luck.
JBC ( 207.164.221.69 ) at 3:26 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Darian: While your idea is a good one, it is not practical as:
a) The room is finished.
b) Ignoring the fact that my wife would kill me, the extension cords will not be lying around as I have installed a cable channeling system using Perlaps that essentially hides the cables (i.e. you would have to look very hard to notice the cables at all).
c) I will be (groan) moving in the next 12 to 18 months so I do not want to plow a pile of $$$ into the house.
That said, I like your idea a lot and will use it in the next house!!should
Darian ( 66.44.16.210 ) at 3:19 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Scott: Cinepro Power warranties. Cinepro recomends plugging power strips into the PowerPros to get more outlets. CINEPRO DOES NOT HAVE THE "1 MILLION DOLLAR INSURANCE FOR CONNECTED EQUIPMENT PROGRAM."
Darian ( 66.44.16.210 ) at 3:17 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
PowerPro 20 and your subs. Since you are having an electrician out anyways. Why not have him run outlets to the sub locations from the PowerPro? Just have a receptical placed behind the PowerPro that has another receptical at the sub. Take a plug out of the Powerpro and you have an inwall extention cord. The receptical on the wall will have a tad more class then extention cords lying on the floor.
Darian ( 66.44.16.210 ) at 3:14 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Joe: Did get your email. Waiting till you had a chance to talk over it with everyone here. It seems your needs were changing as you learned more. Will take a look at it tommorow. and see what can be done.
Darian ( 66.44.16.210 ) at 3:12 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Gar: I am right here. The Roundtable is everybit as good as the TheaterVision P and $700 more expensive.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 1:43 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
CuRTis: Hey, I have cathouse maroon too! What a coincidence! But I prefer to think of it a "theater red velvet" even though it isn't reallly red.
Gar ( 169.207.193.142 ) at 1:39 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
DVD Player "The Roundtable"
Anyone seen this unit in action? Darian where are you?
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.24 ) at 1:21 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Tony C: Ah yes - the cathouse maroon velvet curtains on a motorized track!
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:17 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
I guess the topic in my last post should have read "Eardrum Pressure"
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:04 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Drum Ear Pressure
Tony C:
I do not have a subwoofer yet, but I hear a lot of talk about a room bein pressurized by a subwoofer. This can only happen, if at all, if the room is sealed, more or less hermetically. Even then, all the sub is doing is moving the air around. As a test for you, I would suggest taking a barometer and measuring the room pressure before you start playing your music. Take another reading of the room pressure when your ears start to hurt and see if there has been a pressure increase. If the pressure does not increase, your pain may be caused by the sound waves. In which case you may have to lower the volume.
If all this fails, take two aspirins and call me in the morning.
Dr. CAI, DIOS (Doctor in Occult Sciences) Dios=God in Spanish what a coincidence.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:26 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Curtis: If you're looking for custom look, how about automatic curtans? Still a dramtic effect at a fraction of the price. I'm sure you can be creative enought to make them artistic looking.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:13 PM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Ron H : I have wondered why my ears hurt as well. More so, I'm beginning to worry.
Wild Bill ( 63.26.194.43 ) at 11:39 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Stewart Grayhawk screen discount
cai: Yep, fever and a cough AND a ton of work to do by tomorrow.
I stretched something in my lower leg Saturday and my achilles tightened up for about a day. It seems to be better today. The problem is, it has been 3 weeks and I have a lot to do. I'm probably pushing the limits with what I should be doing on my feet.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.34 ) at 11:38 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
JBC:Hmmmmm. I guess it could be worse.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 11:31 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Stewart Grayhawk screen discount
Wild Bill: Do you have fever and a cough? There seems to be a bug going around; one of my children caught it. How is your heel mending? Hope you feel better soon.
Wild Bill ( 63.26.194.43 ) at 11:10 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Stewart Grayhawk screen discount
CuRTis: OK. I read the thread but didn't see that information. But then, I am sick as a dog today so I may not have fully comprehended what I read.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.10 ) at 10:45 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
JBC: Ouch! Sounds as bad as Sweden where Ingmar Bergman was regularly taxed at 110% of his income.
Did you all know that when US Federal Income Tax was 1st established the Supreme Court was expected to rule it as being clearly unconstitutional?
JBC ( 207.164.221.213 ) at 10:39 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Ron H: No problem . You can always smile at tax time -- just think of us Canadian who hit a 51% margin tax rate at the equivalent of US$40,000 worth of income. Also bear in mind that we pay 15% on each and every purchase in the form of federal and provincial sales tax!
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.10 ) at 10:21 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Stewart Grayhawk screen discount
Wild Bill: I know that. That's why I added that Stewart may be willing to extend a discount offer to AVS forum members on OTHER products that they sell. What I'm after is the StudioTek 130 material.
Wild Bill ( 63.26.194.43 ) at 10:02 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Stewart Grayhawk screen discount
CuRTis: That screen is not a good choice for your projector. It is meant to help with deficiencies that your projector does not have. The Greyhawk screen is specifically made for projectors that output a ton of light and need help with black level.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.10 ) at 9:38 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Stewart Grayhawk screen discount
For AVS Forum members is being offered. I see this alone brought Cytotech out of lurking. Stewart may also be willing to extend this offer to members for other products in their line. Lucky timing for me perhaps? Check it out: http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000725.html
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.10 ) at 9:35 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
And a hearty Good Morning still in the dark from California.
Joe ( 205.188.198.161 ) at 9:16 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Good Morning all
Ron H ( 63.61.199.118 ) at 8:30 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
JBC: Thanks for the info but for now I am holding tight on purchases untill after tax time. I am afraid that Uncle Sam is going to bite me good thi year.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.118 ) at 8:25 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Tony C: I am starting to wonder why subs set at a normal level would make your ears hurt.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:14 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Ron H: Just sent you an e-mail indicated a mint pair of SL3 for sale in Houston for US$2,300. Good luck!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:49 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Morning gang....
Kieran ( 207.214.148.148 ) at 1:58 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Scott "popcorn": Yep... pretty soon now.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.17 ) at 1:51 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Kieran: Shouldn't you be in bed?
Kieran ( 207.214.148.148 ) at 1:15 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.17 ) at 1:09 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Power
Kieran: GRRRRRR!!!
Kieran ( 207.214.148.148 ) at 12:58 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Power
Scott "popcorn": Nope... what's a tripplite? (just kidding)
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.17 ) at 12:53 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Power
Kieran: Don't ask me... have you read Tripplite's warranty?
Kieran ( 207.214.148.148 ) at 12:51 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Power
Scott "popcorn": I wonder why that is? It seems to me (an admittedly non-electrical type person) that chaining surge protectors would just increase the level of safety.... ?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.17 ) at 12:41 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Power
AVB: Well, I don't know about the PP20, but surge protectors that I've seen get the warranty voided if you plug them into another multi-outlet type unit, or plug any multi-outlet type units into them (aka, chaining surge protectors)
Gar ( 169.207.194.235 ) at 12:19 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Well off to watch a movie then bed. The Sony 10HT looks better everytime I watch it.
Gar ( 169.207.194.235 ) at 12:18 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
BIG AL: I sent my old remote in and they sent me a new one. Batteries last much longer and the display was easier to read.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 12:10 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
ooops, and was it any better?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 12:08 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Gar; Didn't you get a replacement remote from Sony for the POS remote they supply with the 9000?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 12:07 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
Gar; Strange, but that's the one physical activity that doesn't hurt. At least till it's over.
Gar ( 169.207.194.235 ) at 12:04 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
BIG AL Sex is a great pain killer
BIG AL'S WIFE ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 12:00 AM EST Monday, February 5, 2001
You boys will have to excuse AL's typing for a while. He didn't realize I was reading over his shoulder. He'll be reading out of one eye, and typing with only one finger for a while. Have fun!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 11:56 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Curtis; I figured you'd only buy a stick for yourself, but when your showering waitresses with $$$ for a peck on the cheek, who knows what you shower those GFs with. By the way, I've given lavish tips too. Sometimes I get a lap dance!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 11:51 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Curtis; With all the money you've saved lately, I think you could absorb a small retail sacrifice.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 11:49 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Scott"pop"; HEY! That's what we need! A thoughtful "smiley" with a light bulb over his head!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.134 ) at 11:48 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
HOORAY!! I found the culprit of the hummmmmmm in my sub! When I was using the 90Hz x-over of the Yamaha, I ran the sub line through my parametric EQ to reduce the upper info. Then I ran my speakers large. Since the Sony x-over is more to my speakers liking, I didn't need the EQ, but had forgotten to bypass it with the sub line. While moving wires around trying to find the hummm today, I noticed all the wires comming out of the EQ. LIGHT BULB!!! Sure enough, I now have silence
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.207 ) at 11:33 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Screen/ FP
JBC: Sorry if my post wasn't clear.
No, that price is exclusive of the FP. It was $700 vs. $28K new. I do want the best possible screen for it of course & the motorized/ tensionized variety lay beautifully flat ... of course there's simply the cool factor of having it drop whenever the FP is fired up at the touch of a remote. Same holds true for when the show is over - everything goes out of sight and you instantly get your house back.
Remember that I plan to use my HT & others to attract HT consulting business. As AVB correctly pointed out I can get just as good an image by hanging a flat/ framed screen. While this is fine for a dedicated HT room, it's not the prettiest thing to look at when not in use in a family or living room. I also have a lot of artwork on my walls (space is really limited by the fact that it's a mostly glass house.
So I'm doing my best to justify the purchase for both pleasure AND business. I'll ask my accountant if some of it can be considered a biz expense amortized over time. I need all the tax breaks I can find. If they go to HT, who am I to argue.
Let's hope there are no lurking IRS types besides RaggedyAnn ... she's cool
Gar ( 169.207.194.235 ) at 11:29 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Curtis
If you see any good deals on a good DVD Player like the new Denon 2800 or the iScan Pro send them my way. Still looking at a stand alone unit that will do the job good. Thanks
Gar ( 169.207.194.235 ) at 11:28 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Dinosaur(Disney Movie)
Gar: hehehehe Can't even spell the title correctly! Duh! Anyone gets a chance the graphics and goodies on the second Disc are top notch... This is a keeper and looks great on the 10ht, even using just my PS2 for playback.
Gar ( 169.207.194.235 ) at 11:17 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
New CD Player
MikeD: Both are decent CD Players for the money. Take a look at the new NAD Silver series, I have two of them and I am selling one on Audioreview. Here is the link.... http://www.Nadelectronics.com/
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:01 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
8hz = 80hz
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:01 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Joe: No I haven't tried that one yet. Maybe I will now.
Here's what happened tonight. I recalibrated both subs. Put the cross over on the lex at 8hz and turned the crossover on the subs off. Then I thought I would listen to the SVS while watching Shaft.
I kept getting up to adjust the SVS because it was boomy at times.
It wasn't until the movie was over that I realized the Energy was the one plugged in.
So, I went back and A-B'd the depth charge scene from U-571. I alternated between the two subs and again, I can say they are pretty similar. The SVS being a little smoother. But after awhile the ears just start to hurt and I have to stop.
MikeD ( 24.112.158.233 ) at 8:56 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
New CD Player
Not really HT related but I need a new CD player, thinking of either the new Rega Planet 2000 or the new Arcam Diva CD72. Anyone seen or heard these beasts??
Joe ( 205.188.195.21 ) at 8:34 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Where so I check out these SVS subs? Tony have you tried the opening from Apocalyps Now? The sceen with the helicopeter flying around the room.
Joe ( 205.188.195.21 ) at 8:33 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
JBC
IF you do buy an extension cord, get a heavy constrution cord. Most of the cheaper ones are only 16 guage wire. Spend a few extra dollars and buy a 12 or 10.
Joe ( 205.188.195.21 ) at 8:26 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Sunday Evening funny
A woman pregnant with triplets was walking down the street when a
masked
robber runs out a bank and shoots her three times in the stomach.
Luckily,
the babies are okay. The surgeon decides to leave the bullets in
place,
because it would be too risky to operate. She gave birth to two
healthy
daughters and a healthy son.
All was fine for about 16 years, and then one daughter walked into
the
room
in tears. "What's wrong?" asks the mother. "I was taking a pee and
this
bullet came out!" replied the daughter. The mother tells it's okay
and
explained 16 years ago. About a week later, the second daughter
comes
into
the room in tears. "Mom, I was taking a pee and this bullet came
out.
Again, the mother tells her it's okay and explains what happened 16
years
ago. A few days later, her son walks into the room in tears. "It's
okay."
says Mom, "I know what happened. You were taking a pee and a
bullet
came
out."
"No," says the boy, "I was playing with myself and I shot the dog.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:41 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
subs
'm still messing around with two subs. The SVS and the little 12" Energy.
I spent a lot of time today with AVIA and the SVS. Then I watched Predator in dts. I highly recommend getting that disc. Some great audio there.
I ended up moving the SVS about 3.5 feet from the left corner, right up against the left main speaker and right against the back wall. It's the only place where the bass does not sound localized.
Tomorrow, I'll calibrate the Energy using Avia again. Then I'll make a decision for sure. $300 difference or not.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:37 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
JBC: Thanks, the url I had for SMR must have been old.
I would have suggested the same things AVB did. In fact, that's how I get around my six outlets on my L/C.
AVB ( 64.41.33.71 ) at 6:51 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Power
Scott "popcorn": Void who's warranty? There is one on the PP20 for 3 years. What you plug into it doesn't matter as long as it is within the loading specs.
Gar ( 169.207.192.136 ) at 6:13 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
AVB: it is working now. Thanks
Gar ( 169.207.192.136 ) at 6:11 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
DVD Pioneer
AVB: The site you listed for the Pioneer DV-05 doesn't work? Not sure if it is on my end or what?
Gar ( 169.207.192.136 ) at 6:03 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Dinosour(Disney Movie)
Just watched this with my Wife and Son, and I must admit it is Reference Quality on Video and Sound. Just as good as Toy Story.... Enjoy it if you rent or buy it. I must admit, it is for older children, because some parts get scary for kids.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.92 ) at 5:31 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Power
AVB: Doesn't the addition of a 6 outlet power strip void the warranty? Or is there a warranty on the PP20?
AVB ( 64.41.33.43 ) at 5:15 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Power
JBC: There is no concern about extension cords unless they are in a position where they will be walked on. Then I would get something to protect them. You can always put in a 6 outlet power strip into one of the PP20 outlets and keep the benefits.
JBC ( 207.164.221.170 ) at 4:56 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Power
AVB: I assume that your comments about extension cords laying around is one from the WAF. If that is correct I have that covered as I can easily run them from the back of the room to the PowerPRO20 without them being seeing.
Please confirm that this was your concern rather than anything else.
If this is the case then I am going to have one 20 amp service put in and connect everything to the PowerPRO 20.
I am going to be out of outlets as...
-- RPTV 1 outlet
-- Cinepro 3k6 1 outlet
-- Crestron 3 outlets
-- VCR 1 outlet
-- Cable box 1 outlet
-- Lexicon MC-1 1 outlet
-- Toshiba 2109 1 outlet
-- CD player 1 outlet
-- subwoofers 2 outlets
For a total of 12 outlets. Looks as though the Crestron will be the looser when the FP and scaler arrive!!
AVB ( 64.41.33.43 ) at 4:45 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Doc, you goaat help me!
CuRTis: Why don't you just get a framed screen and hang it from the ceiling as many of us have done? You'd save half I bet.
AVB ( 64.41.33.43 ) at 4:41 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Power
JBC: I don't think you'll need the PP20 for the subs but you should have some type of surge protection for them. You could even hook them up to the PP20 as it will handle the load but I don't know how having extension cords laying around will go over. Find some color you like at the nearest home center and use that if you want. For power, wire is wire and nobody can prove otherwise.
Since I don't know how much the initial turn-on current draw is for your subs I can't say if 15 amps is enough. If the circuit can handle the turn on then 15 amps will work. If the trun-on draw trips a 15 amp breaker then get another or bigger circuit.
Hope this helped.
JBC ( 207.164.221.170 ) at 4:29 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
CurTis: That posting is not clear... does the $2,980 also include the Ampro? If so, you have another killer deal!!
Also, on the subject of Crestron... the thing I find even more annoying is that these guys charge top dollar for the programming and install becasue most people who can aafford these things would rather just pay "a little" more not to be bothered. The nerve of these installers to provide Lada service for Rolls Royce prices really annoys me -- I mean, I do not mind spending $$$ when the service is commensurate... but this! On the other hand, maybe I should go into the install market as I can do a much better job than they can.
End of Rant!
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.70 ) at 4:21 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
LOL! & Dic is DOC!!
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.70 ) at 4:21 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Goaat really means Gotta Too much sun palying tennis for 4 hours this AM.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.70 ) at 4:20 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Doc, you goaat help me!
... I'm actually considering the R word, that's right dic ... paying retail for an expensive piece of HT gear!
Here's the best my local Stewart Filmscreen can do, straight off their quote:
======================================================================
Custom SR-1 Electriscreen
Mdl SR110HST13C2T2-12-2-3.50
Motorized/ fully Tensionized
Image size 54" x 96" (110" diagonal) - Aspect Ratio: 1.78:1
Screen Material: StudioTek 130
Top Masking: 12"-Bottom Masking: 2" -Side Masking: 3.50"
Housing Length: 111" -Housing COlor: C2T2 (ceiling white) -Batten Width: 105" -Batten Color: White
Screen Mounting: Wall
Screen Control: Screen Trigger Interface (12Volt DC Triggered by Projector w/ STI LED Indicator at lower front of Housing)- Model#: STI
For use with Ampro Elite 4200, 9"
Primary Video Signals: NTSC w/quadrupler & HDTV (all 18 Formats)
Theoretical Brightness: 8.56fL
Primary Viewing Distance: 13 feet 6 inches
Delivery Time ETA: Please allow 3 to 6 Weeks from time of order.
Retail Price of all above: 3,477.00. By discounted price: 2,980.00
===================================================================
So tell me Dac - should I pull the (12 volt) trigger and just go ahead & pay NEAR FRIGGIN' RETAIL for this beauty, or how that a perfect/ identical speciman falls into my lap for $200 like I usually seem to stumble upon, with a little help from my friends???
Even the custom quotation (5 flawless pages) is a thing of beauty. But comeon - this costs $20 less than my entire beautiful new car!
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.70 ) at 4:02 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
JBC: I'm very familiar with the maze of wires involved ina Cre$tron network. Most installers butcher the job somehow assuming that the cleant is never going to add or swap out equipment. You have my deepest condolences.
JBC ( 207.164.221.223 ) at 1:19 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
AVB: I had the electrician over. He asked a question I know you can answer so ....
-- I will be using one 20 amp circuit for my amplifier, Crestron, digital cable box, DVD, PowerPRO, pre/pro, RPTV, and VCR. This is as you suggested yesterday.
-- I will then have one 15 amp circuit for my two M&K MX-350 subs. To this end:
a) Is this suffcient or should I have a separate 15 amp circuit for each.
b) Would it alternatively be better to run a long extension cord run from the subs to the PowerPRO 20. If yes, are there particular brands that are preferred?
Please note that I will not consider purchasing a second PowerPRO 20 for the subs due to cost and uncertainty where they will be placed when I move (whenever that might be).
Also, am I correct in assuming that line conditioning is less important for a sub than for the main speakers and the electronic?
Ron H ( 63.44.227.9 ) at 12:57 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
JBC: Thanks for the effort.
JBC ( 207.164.221.223 ) at 12:56 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Ron H: I am in my office! Please call me when you have a chance as I need to speak with you.
Ron H ( 63.44.227.9 ) at 12:56 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
SMR
Tony C: I was just there it is fine.
JBC ( 207.164.221.223 ) at 12:55 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Tony C: The new SMR URL is http://discussion.iland.com/~smr-forums . Hope this helps.
Ron H: Not to make you feel bad > but the reason I was up so early is the shipment of your amp. This thing has been hell:
a) The paperwork is horrendous, let alone getting someone at FedEx who knows more than their name.
b) The wait on the faceplates -- yikes!!
c) The need to rip my rack apart to take the amp out.
Well, let me tell you about taking the amp out. The f*&^kers > who programmed and installed my Crestron paid no attention during the installation. For those that do not know, the Crestron has as many wires as an entire AV system. In any event, these mothers put the wires anywhere and everywhere making it impossible to disconnect the amp without also disconnect the entire Crestron system and all the connections to the Lexicon!!
That said, I had to get up early today to get everything back in working order as I will have no time to do so later in the day (i.e. I am at work now) and no time to do so before my new speakers arrive on Tuesday!!
Ron H ( 63.44.227.9 ) at 12:53 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
I was on SMR this morning.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:47 PM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
SMR
is the SMR forum off the air?
I have not been able to get into it for a long time.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:57 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
shopping
Joe: I'll let you know tonight. I'll probably watch it today.
I got it because, even if the video stinks, it's still a great audio disc.
Lot's of stuff on here that isn't on audio discs.
V Dude ( 152.163.201.182 ) at 11:53 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
To anyone
Chris L.:
Thanks for the information. Sounds encouraging. Will contact my cable co. It's Time Warner here in my section of Florida.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:51 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
shopping
CuRTis: "Ehhh, Ohhh..."
V Dude ( 152.163.201.182 ) at 11:48 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
To anyone
BAGMAN:
If it can be done I can do it. Do you have a screw driver handy?
V Dude ( 152.163.201.182 ) at 11:45 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Another exchange yet to come.
T-Man:
Fuzzy post T Man. I understand the importance of a screw driver but what's that got to do with broadban.
Wild Bill ( 63.48.105.254 ) at 11:12 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
XFL
Kieran: The movie I referred to is called "The Replacements". I thought I noted it in my previous post.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.70 ) at 10:45 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Scary Thought
I don't own anywhere close to about $1M in HT/electronics/ cameras, other grown-up toys. I'm in the process of doing the same thing (full replacement value at retail for everything). As you can imagine I'm going to have a tough time showing an original receipt for something like a $28K FP that I actually paid $700 for.
I was straight with my insurance agent. She said "anything's insurable, it's only a matter of how much you're willing to pay in premiums". So in my case what's scary is the policy itself! Not too bad and worth every dime. I like Chris Rock's comment that if you never make a clai, shouldn't you be entitled to at least a 50% refund. The other idea was to only take out ins. after you've been hit!
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 9:50 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Darian
Did you get my E-Mail?
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 9:47 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Wild Bill: Just watched the replacements last night. We liked it.
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 9:42 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
shopping
Tony C: I really want that Springsteen, how is it?????
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 9:41 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Scary Thought
Wild Bill: My gear is worth less then the house. We went though the same thing, it is too much for property around here. One acera without sewer, gas or water..still with corn on it is around 35k.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:24 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Big Al: Yes, got the email this time.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:24 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Kieran: In the replacements they hire strippers to be the cheerleaders.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.23 ) at 9:06 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
JBC: You are up way too early on a Sunday.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:30 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Good morning gang...
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.56 ) at 4:30 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
XFL
Kieran:I believe the XFL is brought to you by the same cultural icons who brought out the WWF. PT Barnum said that nobody ever went broke by over estimating the vulgarity of the American people.
It does employ people, so I suppose there is a bright side to it. Good night all - early day tomorrow.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.75 ) at 3:10 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
XFL
Wild Bill: You mentioned the cheerleaders are similar to those in "the movie" What movie? Is the XFL based on a movie?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.48 ) at 3:01 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
Darian; Did you get my e-mail this time? Just say the word!
Rich ( 152.163.197.197 ) at 2:59 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
kpd, call me @ home
Ron H ( 63.44.127.29 ) at 12:24 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
The NFL it is not.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.29 ) at 12:24 AM EST Sunday, February 4, 2001
I turrnedthe XFL off after a little over 1 quarter. I am not that hard up yet for football. Maybe in a month or so.
T-Man ( 24.48.225.13 ) at 11:47 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Another exchange yet to come.
Bagman to V Dude: Broad bands? Now there is a subject I know something about. I tend to favor the Go Go's and the Bangels. Now as far as connecting to broad bands, well I like to use my screwdriver!
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 11:17 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Wanna feel old?
CuRTis: Ringo who?
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.136 ) at 10:06 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Zenith HD/DTV STB
Ok guys, I know this isn't out yet(not sure when it will be!) but...
according to www.zenith.com, this box will do everything the DTC-100 will do PLUS:
Output HD in 720p
Scale NTSC to either 480p, 720p, or 1080i
Decode DD internally(useless feature for me and most others, I would suspect).
NOW... the question is, what will the quality be like? Inquiring minds want to know.
What do you guys think?
CuRTis ( 206.171.33.96 ) at 10:04 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Wanna feel old?
Ringo Starr turns 61 this July!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.129 ) at 9:32 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Ron H: Great idea. I think Wiley Coyote just opened a site selling Acme safes, A little spray paint and she'll believe you went out and popped for a TT! Not sure how you're going to add the turbo however. Turbos rule - great gas mileage when you don't need them and afterburner power when you do. Amazing that any machine that operates up to 100,000 RPM's can even work, no less be reliable.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.129 ) at 9:23 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
shopping
Tony C: Nice DVD score today Ant-nee. Does he make a good ganster or what. I love Crystals' lines & body English in the meet meeting, esp. "aka Tubby the Tuba".
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.8 ) at 8:49 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Watching the XFL is like watching "The Replacements". I like it...a lot! The cheerleaders even appear to have come from the same stock as the cheerleaders in the movie.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.23 ) at 8:48 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
XFL
Football on speed,bad camera angles. Maybe some potential.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.8 ) at 8:19 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
XFL
BAGMAN: I'll be watching the XFL while I work tonight. I haven't read a sports page in at least a week so I haven't seen Davis' staff. I have 12 Realtor web sites to get up by Tuesday afternoon. No rest for the weary.
AVB ( 64.41.32.161 ) at 7:50 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Good price on a DV-05
http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002699.html
Ron H ( 63.44.128.150 ) at 7:50 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Auto Show
RickMTB: Sorry I300.
Ron H ( 63.44.128.150 ) at 7:49 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Well in 15 minutes I will check oput the XFL on NBC.
Curtis: She already has a New Bug so all I need to do is drop something heavy on it.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.145 ) at 7:48 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Auto Show
Ron H: Ron, was that a Lexus I300 or an Infinity I30? In either event the Audi TT is nicer. A LOT nivcer (I agree with Nicki, who once again shows her good taste). Just pop in MI2 for her... rather have the TT than the Boxster!
AVB ( 64.41.32.161 ) at 7:21 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
JBC: My bust, I got the numbers mixed up. You would match a PP20 with a PSIII.
Gar ( 169.207.194.202 ) at 7:18 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Loft Apartment
Wild Bill:Nope haven't forgot used to live there for awhile with a friend, and your right. Most places will screw you over unless you screw them first.... Clintons new offices needs better security so he can get BJ'S without anyone finding out, hahahahahahaha........
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.129 ) at 6:58 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Auto Show
Ron H: Well of course she fell in love with the squashed beetle, I mean Audi TT. Under the skin it's exactly the same auto as the VW Turbo Beetle for $13K less $. They are built on the same assembly line - a German friend toured the factory and showed me photos even.
Got to keep her happy though, so you may as well plan now on springing for the TT. Does she want the coupe or the ragtop? Aren't you glad that you pretty much finished up your major HT expen$e$?
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.21 ) at 6:19 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
XFL
Anybody going to check out the new league? It's got to be as entertaining as watching my new Browns play. BTW,Wild Bill,what do you think of Davis and the staff he's put together?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.129 ) at 6:06 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Gar:Both displays are on trucks to me as we speak. Truckers are right up there with roofers for the IQ thing! I don't need to remove my RP for another 3-4 weeks so it's gonna be HD heaven for a while. 96" 16:9 9"CTR, 65" 16:9 RP & 34" 16:9 Direct View. I can run them at once using a VGA distributor - should be interesting to compare the same HD signal on each. Wanna bet what's gonna look the best?
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.21 ) at 6:01 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
To anyone
V Dude: Be very careful,who knows what T-Man could come up with using the words broad and band. I still can't look at a screwdriver without laughing.By the way,we'll be pretty close,do you know anything about installing a network card? If not,could you fake it?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:58 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
shopping
Picked up some DVDs today:
Analyze This ("YOU! You've got a gift my friend.)
Predator in dts (can't wait to see MN Governor fire that gun)
Lock, Stock And Two Smoking Barrels. (brit humor)
Payback (Mel Gibson gets his toes broke)
Bruce Springsteen, Complete video anthology. (Better than the box CD set)
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 5:53 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Anybody up for a Cigar Pass ?
Robert: Hey! How am I supposed to email you if you don't have a bio entry?? For shaaaaame. 
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 5:50 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
To anyone
V Dude: I just had cable modem service installed. I don't know that it helps with TV reception other than the fact that my cable co installed all new splitters and cable before hooking up the modem. Your cable company may be different but mine (Adelphia here in NH) basically leased the equipment to me (cable modem and network interface card) for 39.95 a month. That includes the service. So far I am blown away by the performance! Files that used to take 2+ hours now take 2 minutes! My Quake2 ping times have gone from 150+ to about 65. But it's not perfect. There will still be slowdowns, especially during peak hours of use so be prepared for that.
All in all I feel (so far) that it's well worth the extra $20 a month.
Wild Bill ( 63.22.25.182 ) at 5:41 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Scary Thought
Ron H: Not here. Real estate is getting so expensive that it is scary. Our house has appreciated over 50% in the last 2 years. The problem is, averything new around here is $$$$$ so there is nowhere nearby for me to "upgrade" the house.
Wild Bill ( 63.22.25.182 ) at 5:38 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Loft Apartment
Gar: You foget that Carlos lives in NY City. Real estate and rentals are at a premium there. Carlos probably has little recourse but to do the cleanup as he indicated. Maybe it's not fair, but then neither is the price of Clinton's office space in Manhattan that we will be helping to foot the bill.
V Dude ( 205.188.193.58 ) at 5:13 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
To anyone
Can someone explain how Broadband would help me in TV reception and quicker response on the internet. Does this originate with my cable company (Time Warner) and if so any idea what such a connection might cost on a monthly basis. Would I have to aquire any additional equipment? I understoand broadband is a great thing but not knowing anything about it am in the dark. Thanks in advance.
JBC ( 207.164.221.142 ) at 5:03 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Ron H: Back at you.
Gar: Why would you opt for the Proceed BPA amps over all other comers? From my vantage point it is very difficult to notice a significant difference between well made amps.
To prove my point I went to the M&K dealer who was going to loan me an amp between Monday and arrival of my new Cinepro 3k6. I convinced him to give me three Bryston 4B-ST (which cost roughly US$1500 more than my Cinepro). After careful instructions and matching levels I had my wife randomly change amps while I listening to CDs and DVDs which I think I know very very well. Damn if I could not tell the difference -- other than the extra bang that the Cinepro had on explosions due to either itys greater power and/or headroom. This is did notice using U-571.
The test makes me feel a little happier with my decision to keep the Cinepro. Now, if I can only a way to get the third amp in the rack! Another reason for the Cinepro!
Ron H ( 63.44.127.161 ) at 4:47 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
E-Mail to Review
JBC: Received and understood.
JBC ( 207.164.221.142 ) at 4:43 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Nice to know that I am not alone in that the contents in the house are clsoe to the value of the house!
Ron H ( 63.44.127.161 ) at 4:42 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Auto Show
Derb: LOL
JBC ( 207.164.221.142 ) at 4:41 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
E-Mail to Review
Ron H: I have sent you an e-mail to review with respect to the Cinepro's shipping instructions. If you could review it and let me know whether
a) I have missed anything; or
b) there is anything that is less than oefectly clear
I would be most appreciative.
Please get back to me before tomorrow night as I need to send it to others.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.161 ) at 4:41 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Upgrades -- A New Perspective
Derb: I have one 20 amp circuit for the amps which at this time I only have my 5 channel in. Another 20 amp behind my racks for all the small amps and the rest of the equipment. I also have a 15 amp circuit behind there that the non-speaker outlets are feed off of which the TT amp is plugged into as noice is not a concern for the TTs.
The MLs are all on a seperate circuit. The Sony Projector is on a seperate circuit. I also have all the lights on a seperate circuit.
I sort of went over board but my son is a electrician. I had updated my
service when I put the pool in so I had the capacity to add all the circuits.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.229 ) at 4:34 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Computer Parts
Well, aparently ASUS has released their KT-133A chipset-based mobo! It's the A7V133. Anandtech hasn't yet reviewed it though. Has anyone else seen any reviews for it, and how it compares to the Abit KT7A-RAID?
Derb ( 199.174.5.145 ) at 4:34 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Auto Show
Ron H: An Audi TT would be cool, just let Nicky know that you would like to borrow it once in a while to pick-up chicks
Ron H ( 63.44.127.161 ) at 4:32 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Scary Thought
Derb:Same thing here, stuff in the house is almost worth more than the house. House was to be a starter but with no kids and 5 years left on the mortgage I will use the money for toys and retirement funds.
JBC ( 207.164.221.142 ) at 4:31 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Auto Show
Ron H: Sounds like you might need either a second job or to give up your HT addiction -- neither of which are pleasing.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.161 ) at 4:31 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Scary Thought
Derb:Same thing here, stuff in the house is almost worth more than the house. House was to be a starter but with no kids and 5 years left on the mortgage I will use the money for toys and retirement funds.
Ron H ( 63.44.127.161 ) at 4:19 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Auto Show
We just got back from the auto show. Nicky fell in love with the Audi TT. Yikes!!!! I steered her toward the Lexus I30 which she thought was OK but felt somehow she needed to have the TT. I think she need a new husband. LOL
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.118 ) at 4:18 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Vanquished Vandersteen's
Derb: Derb, thanks for the very good advice. I am also weighing the purchase of not one but two *road* bikes (Bianchi Eros) so my funds are somewhat in contention currently.
Gar ( 169.207.192.29 ) at 4:12 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Scary Thought
JBC: That's funny! I have the same problem......... Especially when I have over 20 grand sitting in speakers alone in my home. But that is my HT system/Audio system and my upstairs system. If I ever go to one system, I will be buying a Lexicon MC-1 and the new Proceed Amp. But Till then I will enjoy.....
Derb ( 199.174.2.121 ) at 3:01 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Scary Thought
JBC: I have more stuff in my house than the house is worth, kind of ass backards you think. That's what you get with cheap housing in Texas and expensive audio gear. Most folks around have two cars and both of them combined new are worth more than the house they live in.
Derb ( 199.174.2.121 ) at 2:55 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Sub Layout
Just maked out the boundries with masking tape on the floor.
20w x 20d x 23h the Bag End Infra-Sub 18 will take up alot of space. It looks like a my have about 4 locations I can fit it in. One being smack dab in the middle of the room. I'll have to remember that one when I get up in the middle of the night. Maybe I should just take a hammer to my toes and get it over with now
Derb ( 199.174.2.121 ) at 2:47 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Upgrades -- A New Perspective
JBC: I ran 12/2 wire on 20 amp circuit on a seperate box and ground rod. Ran two legs, one for the amps and speakers (M-L's must plug in someplace) and one for the equipment rack. The video equipment shares the amp/speaker circuit. Myself & electrician from work pulled the wires and did the hook-ups. Terminated on Levington hospital grade plugs.
JBC ( 207.164.221.240 ) at 2:05 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
AVB: I thought that the PSII was for 15 amp connections whereas the PSIII was for 20 amp connections. At least that is what the web site says.
JBC ( 207.164.221.240 ) at 2:02 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
AVB: Thanks bud!!
Joe: The two M&K subs are on separate circuits. Also, Mrs. JBC would be thrilled if I burnt the house down as she would get to spend what litlle $$$ I have saved on a new one. In fact, I can hear her telling the electrician that!
Carlos ( 172.130.1.38 ) at 2:01 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Loft Apartment
Gar: I'm calling movers and my maid from my old apartment. I'm keeping receipts for everything and deducting it from the rent.
JBC ( 207.164.221.240 ) at 1:59 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Scary Thought
It is time to renew my house insurance so I decided to see what my HT was worth. Well, here it is based on MSRP (which is apprpriate for insurance purposes) in US$...
1. Panasonic FPTV $ 3,000
2. Cinepro 3k6mkiii $ 4,500
3. Lexicon MC-1 $ 6,000
4. Panamax 1500 $ 500 (??)
5. Crestron STS-1550C $ 3,000 (excluding programming)
6. Toshiba 2109 DVD $ 500 (??)
7. JVC VCR $ 300
8. M&K speakers $10,000
9. Wiring, brackets, etc. $ 1,500
Total: $29,300
No wonder the wife shits when I complain about $1,500 worth of linens!! Best she never finds out about this as it will likely mean no FP in the new home!!
AVB ( 64.41.32.1 ) at 1:58 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Upgrades -- A New Perspective
JBC: The match would be the PS II and you may want one later but I would live with the PP20 for a while first before deciding. 20 amps sould be good for everything unless you are over the edge like me. Plug the panamax into the PP20 and then use the coax connections on it.
There is nothing special needed beyond a good 20 amp line.
Joe ( 205.188.195.27 ) at 1:57 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Damn it JBC, that post was not on when I was typing. I see you are way ahead of me. BTW are you running you 2- M&K 350msubs on the same circuit as the amps? If so you must add that pull on the current.
Joe ( 205.188.195.27 ) at 1:55 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
JBC
I am surprised you are using a 15amp circuit. You seem very concerned with getting a large or large amp or should I say higher wattage. The amp will be limited by the current allowed though you plug. It is not just a matter of swapping out a plug, the wire behind the plug must be rated for higher current (20amp= 12guage wire). You will also have to look at the breaker box, a 20 amp plug with 12 guage wire will still be limited by a 15 amp breaker.
I would suggest you get a electricain in to look at your circuit. Not to insult you intelligence, this just seems like a logical first step. Besides Mrs JBC would be very upset if you over loaded a circuit and burnt the house up.
Gar ( 169.207.192.88 ) at 1:42 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Upgrades -- A New Perspective
JBC:Upgrades are fun!!!!! Do you have the Anthem Amps? I just got the Anthem MC-5 and so far for the money it is the best 5 channel Amp I have heard.
Gar ( 169.207.192.88 ) at 1:40 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Loft Apartment
Carlos: Hey Carlos, whats up? I say he gives you a rent break for the next two months, if he doesn't have him pay people to come over and clean it up.
JBC ( 207.164.221.240 ) at 1:34 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Upgrades -- A New Perspective
Derb: We need to put a few things in perspectove:
1. The M&Ks are new, and thanks for the congrats. I will be, on Tuesday, trading in my M&K 150s in exchange for M&K 250s for the L/C/R, M&K 200s for the SR/SL and adding a second MX-350 subwoofer. I am now using pro speakers -- look out neighbours!
2. The Cinepro 3k6 is not new. I am simply replacing one mkiii with a trigger that does not work with my MC-1 with one mkiii with a trogger that does work with my MC-1.
3. The Cinepro PP20 and receptable are works in process. I will first get an electrecian out to install the outlet and then try to get a used PP20.
AVB:, three quick querries.....
1. Anything special I should tell the electrician before the installation.
2. Also, I am assuming that one 20 amp outlet will be sufficient for all my gear. Is this correct?
3. Any thoughts on either:
a) Adding PowerSupplyIII or would this be overkill and best left for another time?
b) Continued use of my Panamax 1500 for the coaxial connections?
Carlos ( 172.145.49.60 ) at 1:33 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Loft Apartment
Joe ( 205.188.195.27 ) at 1:33 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
cai: That is the path I will probabley go down. At first I thought cool I will use the amp and crossover from the sub for my TT's. But it will probabley be cheaper to replace the driver.
Carlos ( 172.145.49.60 ) at 1:33 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Loft Apartment
Hi guys! I was so excited about moving to this loft and all my joy died when I got here. The previous tenant left EVERYTHING here. I'm trying to get in touch with the landlord and the tenant and I can’t get a hold of either. It looks like I'm going to be spending the next week cleaning up this place and throwing out all of this junk!
Gar ( 169.207.194.7 ) at 12:14 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
BC
Thanks for the info on places in Texas, I must say the women are very nice there, I never got hit on so many times in one evening I lost count. A place called Billy Bobs, and then we went to Cab Royale and I paid women to hit on me, what's up with that? hahahhaaha
Gar ( 169.207.194.7 ) at 12:12 PM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
CuRTis: Haven't been on here in awhile, did you get the Ampro and Sampo?, Hey they sound the same....
Derb ( 199.174.0.54 ) at 11:58 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Holly Up-Grade BatMan
JBC: Most of us just up-grade one thing at a time
Congrats on the new M&K speakers and Cinepro amp. If your going to install a 20 amp service, get some good quality hospital grade receptacles. Looks like alot of fun.
Derb ( 199.174.0.54 ) at 11:33 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Vanquished Vandersteen's
RickMTB: Rick sorry your loudspeakers are making less than optimal performance these days. Have you tried opening up the back and seeing if a brace, control panel or cross-over circuit board has become loose?
If you are still interested in keeping them and continuing with the Vandersteen set-up for HT, I would give Vandersteen a call and give them a couple options to help you out. Bring up that you have been a loyal Vandersteen customer and would like to see what they can do to help out.
1) Bring your old Vandy's up to as close to current production models, within limits of coarse. Fix and Tweak if you will.
2) Give you credit for your old models on going out and replacing them with new models, see if they will ship direct from the factory @ dealer cost. Let them know that you plan on purchasing the center and surrounds from your local dealer, or maybe thay can work as middle man for the whole package through Audio Concepts and get a supper sweet deal.
3) Turn this negative into a postive and work it baby
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.217 ) at 11:19 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
JBC: LOL! Now I get it. Must get some java going before posting. Do you think it's time I updated (upgraded?) by bio?
So much for that "I'm done upgrading" line, huh?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:13 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Curtis: It is not the 20 amp outlet that will solve my craving but... the 20 ampoutlet, the PP20, the new Cinepro 3k6mkiii, the new M&K speakers arriving on Tuesday, etc. I know that thisis zilch compared to your new cage, FP, Shampoo and etc. but I have to work my way up!!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.217 ) at 11:01 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Mo Money, Mo Problems
Tony C: For Christmas my ex & her fiance got my daughter a cellphone. When they hit the stores they all wound up with new phones under one big pool of minutes to share. I think it's Sprint's family plan.
Judging by how much my daughter has already used her phone I think there will bo nothing left for the adults. She could give my cell bill a run for the money.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:54 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Mo Money, Mo Problems
Mrs. C has decided that our second offspring is in need of his own cell phone. Now the process has begun.
what plan for a kid living in Kenosha, WI who wants to call his girl friend in Normal IL.
Already surfed, not it's time to hit the stores.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:52 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Cajun Mike: If you're lurking....did your sub arrive yet?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.217 ) at 10:41 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Ron H: I bet you'll want the new T-Bird or Nomad
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.217 ) at 10:39 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
JBC: I wish my new toy cravings could be satisfied with a 20 amp outlet! I agree with your choice of the Cinepro. More money for an entire network of outlets.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.217 ) at 10:36 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
yet another OT - over tipping?
AVB: Yes, you win
Ron H ( 63.44.128.25 ) at 9:58 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Off to the aoto Show. Later all.
AVB ( 64.41.33.81 ) at 9:51 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
FP PSA
http://gonmain.iserver.net/cgi-bin/cl.pl?homevdeo&986262765&class&3&4&
MikeD ( 24.112.158.233 ) at 8:55 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
JBC:
I know Gary is very difficult to get in touch with but is usually very responsive to e-mails and voice mail. I am sure the Cinepro will be a great addition to your system.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:08 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
MikeD: Unless I change my mind within the next 48 hours it does appear as though I will be going with the Cinepro. The dollars and cents to move to the Brystons (and the other reasons I mentioned) just did not compute.
I will try to satisfy my craving for new toys by looking at putting in a 20 amp outlet for the PP20.
Thanks for you e-mail. I never did speak to Gary as the 4 to 6 times I called all I got was voice mail!!
AVB ( 64.41.32.16 ) at 7:53 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Car sub suggestions pls
CuRTis: I thik TTs were originally made for cars and then crossedover to the HT market. You still can find the Aura's ....try www.partsexpress.com they had them on sale this week.
AVB ( 64.41.32.16 ) at 7:50 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
yet another OT - over tipping?
Kieran: Finally, I can best a Curtis story. An ex-GF who was a nurse had an Emir as one of her patients. When he left 2 days later after his checkup he gave her a Ladies Diamond Rolex, about an $8K watch. She said she didn't spend more then 45 minutes with him over the two days.
MikeD ( 24.112.158.233 ) at 7:40 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
JBC: Good morning JBC, another night of snow here is Ottawa, more shoveling to do after I finish my coffee. Hope it ends soon, the banks on the side of my driveway are almost six feet tall!! Looks like you are going with the Cinepro, I don't think you could go wrong with either choice, both are excellent amps in my opinion.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:24 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Good morning one and all...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 2:04 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
This isn't fair to the local merchant
CuRTis: Sure... point the finger at someone else...
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.133 ) at 1:42 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Kieran: email coming your way. Not great news.
Kieran ( 172.133.228.183 ) at 1:38 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Welcome MikeD!
BYork ( 206.15.2.128 ) at 1:29 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
MikeD -
Got your bio form and email. You have email on it's way back atcha, and a NEW BIO on the HTOC now.
Glad you decided to officially associate with us degenerates...!
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.145 ) at 1:28 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
This isn't fair to the local merchant
Scott "popcorn": I do make the effort. Not sure if local (Shampoo 500 miles away) and Ampro FP (light years away in Alabama) qualify as locel though.
Gar made me do it
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 12:57 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
This isn't fair to the local merchant
CuRTis: That's the same reason you buy stuff locally (HT or otherwise) when you can afford it... you get personalized service and help out the local economy.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 12:56 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Car sub suggestions pls
CuRTis: Actually, the Aura (and some other brand... Don't think it was Russound though, but it seems to have started with an R) IS a mobile TT... HT geeks just grabbed them and called them their own
CuRTis ( 63.91.181.130 ) at 12:55 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
This isn't fair to the local merchant
I have been meaning to pickup the hardcover book "The Beatles Anthology" some time. So I find the book here at the fav bookshop at list: $60. I log onto Amazon and find the same thing for $36, no sales tax.
If I were on a tight budget, the choice is obvious. I really, really want this great bookstore to survive so I showed the manager the price on my screen. He was amazed! The have multiple distributers meaning that he would lose $$ by price matching. He offerred 25% off & I took it.
Why? Because if everyone bought every book @ Amazon.com this place would go out of biz in no time flat. It's also a coffee house & does concerts, lots of great stuff for all the local schools. Support your favorite local bookstores while you still can!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 12:55 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: Actually, I've been doing some looking around... Looks like AMD will be dropping its EV6 architecture for its new K8's... It will use a different MP bus design, allowing 4 to 8 processors... I might wait to go dual til then (can we say QUAD 1GHz? With BeOS, that will be like a single 4GHz chip... )
CuRTis ( 63.91.181.130 ) at 12:37 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Car sub suggestions pls
Sorta, kinda on topic. The new stereo in my cage (car to you non-motorcyclists)actually has a sub out. I don't want to sound like I'm ready to drive through the 'hood with enough bass to shatter all windows - then again good clean bass is a good thing - esp. in an open air car.
Is there such a thing as a mobile TT? Should I get a regular sub & dedicated amp? Where should it be optimally mounted???
BTW, I'm yacking from my favorite bookstore. Follow my #'s
CuRTis ( 63.91.181.130 ) at 12:33 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
yet another OT - over tipping?
Tony C: What thew hell happened to all that great midwestern friendliness that I grew up with back when dino's roamed the earth? It's not allowed to pay the toll of the car behind you? What's up with that??
So do you ever get kissed by your waitresses?! Mrs. T takes care of that yet I must admit I get a real thrill each & every time it happens to me.
Now returning y'all the the home theater thing.
CuRTis ( 63.91.181.130 ) at 12:31 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
yet another OT - over tipping?
Kieran: I hope to be as alive & vital as your 71 y-o friend when I finally get there ... sooner than later. Great (if OT) story.
Kieran ( 172.133.228.183 ) at 12:26 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Computer parts
Scott "popcorn": What they didn't show is the two blocks of dry ice you have to strap to each heat sink before running the system!
Seriously, that looks like a challenging cooling problem!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 12:23 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Computer parts
By the way, that is a Tyan motherboard using an AMD 760 chipset for Dual Socket A's.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 12:21 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: Major DROOLNESS!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 12:03 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: Any idea when dual Socket A motherboards will be out?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 12:02 AM EST Saturday, February 3, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: You better not let your mother see! You made an erroneous statement... You used "Win2k" and "performance" in the same sentence without using a negative. How dare ye
Ron H ( 63.44.126.76 ) at 11:40 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
WARNING HT TOPIC!!!!
Tony C: Yes and yes on your TT questions. I sold the Sunfire Sig about a month ago.
Kieran ( 172.170.32.169 ) at 11:34 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Scott "popcorn": Yeah, I'll probably set aside a small partition for BeOS, and another for Linux. But I'll primarily run Win2k. I liked the S500 I got for my g/f's computer that I built last year (remember?). I can't seem to find an S500 w/ a 300W p/s, though... GeForce2 still gets the best ratings for 3D graphics, AFAIK. Although the ATI isn't anything to sneeze at, either. I'll give it a look-see.... but Win2k performance is key.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.237 ) at 11:29 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Darian: Cool. Let us know. Inquiring minds and all.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:29 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Cytotech: Just red it and have not dug into the iScan yet.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 11:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Dreamcast
CuRTis: microstiff doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to making hardware.
They don't have a good track record when it comes to making software either.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 11:23 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: ...and run BeOS dual-boot? Seriously, InWin cases are *the best* I've found... I have three (count em, three) A500's and I have one S500 up in the closet waiting on a Duron/Thunderboard motherboard, etc. The SB Live! Value that I bought has a PCM output... via 1/8" plug. I think... umm, is it Radeon? Yeah, ATI Radeon is regarded highly on BeNews...
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.237 ) at 11:22 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Darian: Did that fellow's reply to you on AVS help with your iScan Pro problem?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:18 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Tony C: TTs. One clark on a suspended floor can do quite a bit. If you have a couch that everyone one sits on bolting one 329 to a frame gives GOOD VIBRATIONS!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:17 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
JBC: 1. Cinepro PowerPro 20s have a 20 amp plug. This is a plug with the left plade on theperpendicular to the right blade. You need to have 20 amps feeding the 20 and you need to have a receptical that will accept the 20 amp blade.
2. I have a 3k6seIII and a 1k2se including the rest of my gear plugged into 1 PowerPro 20. Check my Bio for gear.
3. There are no coaxial connections on the PowerPros/Power Supplies from Cinepro
4. Nope
5. What ever you want to ask him. These units are the sort of thing that run full time...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.149 ) at 11:12 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
BYork: I thought we were the Rebels, not the Dark Side...
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:58 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron H: Do you still have the small Sunfire sub?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:51 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
JBC: Yes, I'm still very happy with the Celeste.
And congratulations on your new powerful addition. It should be amaizing.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:48 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
WARNING HT TOPIC!!!!
I have one extra channel of power. It's 120 wattts from the five channel Adcom.
I'm thinking about a TT, but it would mean running speaker wire under the carpeting.
A lot of you guys use TTs. Do you think only one is worth it?
Also, do you use the LFE channel for the TT?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:45 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
yet another OT - over tipping?
CuRTis: I find tipping easier with someone elses money.
I never get kissed.
Sometimes the wait staff has to include a gratuity because of the size of the party. They always get screwed that way and I make sure to add the earned amount. Still, I never get kissed.
However, there was this stripper once....
In Illinois, you can't pay for the guy behind you.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.131 ) at 10:39 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
yet another OT - over tipping?
CuRTis said:Ever pay a bridge toll for the person behind you? I do this kind of stuff all the time - because I'm strange.
ROTFLMAO!!! Okay, I'll vouch for that!
Curtis, you would like my coach. Duvall Y. Hecht. President, CEO, and 51% owner of Books On Tape, Inc, and volunteer head rowing coach/director of rowing programs at UC Irvine. He's quite well off, as you might guess, yet he lives very frugally. He drives a Suzuki Samari, and lives in a tiny 2 bdrm appartment, for about $900/mo. But going to a resaurant with him is an experience to be had! He overtips every time, but he also makes his servers/waiters WORK for it. It's rare that the owner of the establishment doesn't eventually find his way to the table, even if we've never been there before. Duvall is very demanding and very particular, but almost always tips in excess of 50%, and if the bill is less than $50 or so, he'll often tip close to 100%, "especially if she's cute." (This from a 71 year young Olympic Gold Medalist). His first rule of thumb when tipping is "always round up to the nearest $5." And then, "if you're leaving $15, you might as well make it neat and easy and leave a $20." And so on.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.24 ) at 10:27 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
yet another OT - over tipping?
No this isn't about the sport known as Cow Tipping - anyone of you strange people ever do that in your wild daze? I have to think WB out in the heartland must have.
To the point. Nobody works harder/smarter for less $$ than really good waiters & waitresses. Did it through college at a good establishment. To appreciate what these folks go through every single day you should try it for a week just to gain perspective. Going 110% from early morning market shopping till 2AM while somehow managing a smile for everyone.
When I had my ISDN-dinner last night I had two great waitresses, one in training who were going nuts taking care of at least 15 big tables. The microbrewery is one of those huge one room converted garages and the din on a crowded Thursday night (the unofficial start of the weekend, at least in Silicon Valley) is very loud. My servers took amazing care of everyone, it didn't hurt that they were both natural beauties who didn't need one spec of makeup. It was the trainee's 2nd night (a Stanford student) & you could clearly tell that she was considering other employment opportunities.
My ales and a killer NY steak dinner came to $25. I gave them a $50 and told them to keep the change. They were shocked and actually both gave me a peck on the cheek. It all felt great. Try over tipping sometime when you get great service & can afford to do so.
Ever pay a bridge toll for the person behind you? I do this kind of stuff all the time - because I'm strange.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 10:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
AVB: A few quick follow ups:
1. Which power cord are you refering to? I thought that the PP20 came with a standard 15 amp edison connection which could be plugged into a 15 amp outlet. Am I totally out to lunch?
2. Not be an engineer, as you are, can you expand on why the PP20 is sufficient (and hence the PP30 is not needed)?
3. Can you confirm that the PP20, unlike the Panamax 1500 which I now use, has no connections/filters for cable, DBS, etc. ?
4. Are you aware of any good leads other than the ones on Audigon and E-Bay?
5. Also, other than the warranty and power cord, what other questions should I ask the vendor?
As you can probably surmise -- I am thinking the Cinepro 3k6miii + PP20 will be a) less costly b) better sounding and c) cure my desire for a new toy better than the Brystons!
Kieran ( 207.214.148.131 ) at 10:22 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Good morning, gentlemen, the temperature is 110 degrees...
Actually, the forecast is for clear and warm weather for the next few days... we've got a BIG high pressure system coming through. Should be good for about 70 degrees F, or so say the weathermen. Perfect weather for some winding wine country road driving in a T-top Z-car...
AVB ( 64.41.33.147 ) at 10:08 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
VMPS/Cinepro
Ron H: I fired up my older non-mega-woofer Larger Sub with the Cinepro and it was like living with an earthquake. There is something about having so much reserve power on tap that just makes it seem to sound better. I was pushing 600 watts into it before but 1200+ was like getting new drivers.
AVB ( 64.41.33.147 ) at 10:02 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
JBC: Thank you for the kind words. I would keep the Cinepro myself. It just offers more flexiblity and is a good bang for the buck compared to the Brystons. Either amp will sound very well so it has to come down to features that you want. I also like the way Cinepro has dealt with me. Even though they needed a little arm twisting it isn't every company that you can talk to the president directly and be assured that they will answer every inquiry in a timely manner. On a side note, the return of my SE is held up not only for the faceplate but because one channel (not the one they repaired) is only at 120 db S/N ratio and not the 124 it should be. Eric told me that it will make spec before it ever leaves the shop even if it has to be rebuilt. I like that.
$900-$1000 is the going rate for a used PowerPro20 with the Furman IT1220 around $700-$800 when you can find them. For just the one amp I think a PowerPro20 will do the job for you because the reserve it has is enough for almost any peak a 3K6 can produce. Even talking with Cinepro they almost discouage buying the PP30 unless you are running something exotic. I'll give them points for useful sales info and not trying to push a product that may not be needed. Anyway, you'll need a 20 anp outlet to use the PP20 or the special cord that can be ordered with the PP30. The PP20 was the single best upgrade I have done after my VMPS towers, you won't be sorry.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.24 ) at 9:51 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Dreamcast
Kieran: If you get the $39 VGA box and stick to VGA enhanced games & hook it up to a high resolution monitor, the answer is yes - blows away even PS/2 for quality. Only the xbox may be better and microstiff doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to making hardware.
Remember when WinCE was going to put Palm/ Handspring out of biz?
Ron H ( 63.44.132.229 ) at 9:50 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
JBC: I will either bridge the center or more likely power the VMPS with it.
Ron H ( 63.44.132.229 ) at 9:48 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
AVB: LOL
Kieran ( 207.214.148.10 ) at 9:39 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Dreamcast
What do you all think? Is it worth buying a used Dreamcast now that Sega's getting out of the hardware biz?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:33 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
AVB: In talking you you, whether by e-mail or phone, you always approach things with a pratical, reasons and knowledgeable viewpoint. What are your thoughts on my opinion to keep the Cinepro over the Brystons?
Also, assuming that I keep the Cinepro (which appears likely) should I consider going after a used Cinepro PowerPRO20? If so,
a) what is the going price (i.e. there are a couple onAUdiogon for $900);
b) what plug type should I get (i.e. do I need a 20 amp socket or just a plain jane 15 amp socket)?
c) Would I better off with a PowerPRO30 -- yikes, those guys are expensive.
As you can tell ... I have "new toy fever!!
TIA...
Kieran ( 207.214.148.10 ) at 9:33 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
AVB: Curtis is doing a fine job of shutting down California all by himself, thanks very much! You should see all the stuff he had running in his house last month! LOL!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.24 ) at 9:30 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
DTC100 PSA
AVB: You da man AVB, I think I got it. Beats paying $500 + tax for the same box new.
Now I owe you & Gar for helping me spend, no save money
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:29 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron H: Are you going to use the 6 channels for 6 speakers or are you going to bridge twoof the channels to pump over 1kW through the centre? Also, did you notice that the MKiii's have an increase in power -- 400 watts/channel in 8 ohms, 650 watts/channel into 4 ohms and an excuse of 1250 watts/channel into 4 ohms when bridged. That should put the MLs at about 2000 watts/channel into 2 ohms! Yiiiiiiiikes! Hope you have fire insurance!
AVB ( 64.41.33.147 ) at 9:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron H: We should plan a time to fire up both systems and shutdown California for the day.
Kieran ( 207.214.148.10 ) at 9:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
DTC100 PSA
CURTIS!!!! JUMP ON THIS OFFER DUDE! ACT FAST, THIS IS THE WHAT YOU NEED IF YOU GIVE YOURS TO KEVIN!
Kieran ( 207.214.148.10 ) at 9:24 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
special delivery?
CuRTis: Come on up... I'll email you details, but I'm here all day. I was just going to do some bussy work and such. Stuff I can blow off till Sunday. If you need a place to stay, the house is almost empty (4 BR, 2900 sqft).
Ron H ( 63.44.134.182 ) at 8:54 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Joe: It is cooked. I think after all your hard work remodeling you deserve a new sub.
RickMTB: My condolences on your speakers.
it sounds like it may be getting time for another tour of Houston.
The Houston connection: With 3.9K watts into 4 ohmms and God knows what when it is driving the 2 ohms or lower the MLs reaches be prepared for brownouts around the city when I power up this bad boy Cinepro.
I will not even add in the other amps that power my sub and the 6 and 7th chasnnel. Be afraid be very afraid.
AVB ( 64.41.33.147 ) at 8:53 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Multiswitch PSA
http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002677.html
AVB ( 64.41.33.147 ) at 8:50 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
DTC100 PSA
http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002674.html
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.24 ) at 8:32 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
special delivery?
Kieran: email at you. Looking for an excuse to dirve the Sonoma twisties tomorrow.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:56 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Here's my shopping cart:
- ABIT KT7A-RAID BUNDLE W/ COOLING FAN & AMD T-BIRD 1GHZ(OEM) + 32X64 256MB PC133 RAM - $450
- IBM 60.0GB ULTRA-ATA/100 7200RPM 8.5MS 2MB BUFFER $225
- IN-WIN A800/3 SUPER MINI TOWER W/300W ATX POWER SUPPLY - $59
- RICOH 32X-READ/12X-RECORD/10X-REWRITE INTERNAL EIDE DRIVE W/SW KIT - $165
- MITSUMI 1.44MB FLOPPY DRIVE - $14.95 (I hate paying for these things - near useless)
- PANASONIC 16X DVD/48X CDROM EIDE INTERNAL/TRAY (Bare drive)*May read 4.7gb DVD RAM media - $88.00!! (may read dvdram??? dunno but sounds good!)
- CREATIVE LABS SOUNDBLASTER LIVE! VALUE PCI 256VOICE AUDIO (OEM) - $47.90
- LEADTEK GEFORCE2 DUAL PRO MX 32MB 4XAGP POWERED BY NVIDIA SDRAM W/TV OUT - $129.00
SubTotal - $1,178.40
Tax - $94.27
3day ups Shipping - $53.89
Grand Total: $1,326.56
Things I might change:
The video card (per Wild Bill and Cytotech's recommendations)
The case... should I get a full tower?
The sound card... Should I get one with PCM/dig audio out? (which one?)
Wild Bill ( 63.48.103.135 ) at 7:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Cytotech: Believe it or not, I posted my reply to Kieran before I read your post. Talk about great minds thinking alike!
Wild Bill ( 63.48.103.135 ) at 7:25 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: The Elsa and ASUS GeForce cards are highly regarded. I have ASUS and JohnO has an ELSA is the HTPC I built for him. I know this sounds silly but as long as the DVD ROM drive spins correctly it should be fine. All it has to do is pass the bits. The software decoder does the rest. I have a Pioneer 414 that I've never had a problem with.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.40 ) at 7:20 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: That's because someone has done this research before(about 3 years ago!).
Also, I recommend either an Elsa Gladiac or Asus GeForce card.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:16 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
cai: Thanks... the last computer I built was a super-7 based one, with an ASUS board and an AMD K6-2/550. That was a great budget system, for sure. I did like Asus a lot, however all the reviews I've been reading for the KT-133 mobo's lean towards Abit, with Asus a slight second. Also, I'm looking for a KT-133A mobo, and Asus doesn't have one out yet. I'll look into the problem you mentioned though...
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 7:11 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Cytotech: Amazing... I had JUST found mwave just by chance of clicking on random dealers from pricewatch... and as I started piecing together things, I was impressed with the prices. Overall about $200 less for the system than several other places. ($1200 instead of $1400 total)
Wild Bill: Any comments on Graphics cards, and brands of dvd players? I know I said this is not going to be a HTPC (yet) but it's a possibility down the not to distant road... And I'd like to hear your thoughts on that.
I'm starting to figure out that NVidia doesn't actually make any graphics cards, the just make the chipset (e.g. GeForce, etc.). Are any brands better than others, if the specs (chip, memory, etc.) are the same?
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:11 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Kieran: Please do not let your mother see my last post: asemble = assemble
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:10 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
{c green; Please do not let your mother see my last post: asemble = assemble]
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:07 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: When I was building my computer I read somewhere that there was a problem between the Abit boards and the AMD processors. I bought an ASUS board. Check the AVScience forum, HDTV section, and see if you can see any references to this. You could also ask the question. I know this is not going to be an HTPC, but it never hurts to asemble harmonic components.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.13 ) at 6:47 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
JBC: IMO,Very sound thinking.(no pun intended)
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.221 ) at 6:46 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
Kieran: Try www.mwave.com. I know tons of people who have used them(including me!), and the total bill is always less than piecing it together from a dozen places.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:15 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
RickMTB & JOE: Sorry to hear about the croaking of your speakers. However, this does not necessarily mean that you need brand new speakers. I had problems with my old Dahlquists when the foam rubber around the bass drivers just disintegrated due to lots of moves, old age and dryness. I took the drivers off and sent them to the factory and for a fee they refurbished the drivers to like new condition. My bass drivers were exhibiting the same symptoms that Joe's sub is having.
I suggest you look at the drivers, call the manufacturer and see if they can refurbish them and for how much. Good luck.
Miked ( 24.112.84.154 ) at 6:09 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston
JBC: Did you talk with Gary about the Bryston amps?? As I stated earlier, I enjoy the Bryston sound and don't think you can go wrong with them. The Cinepros are also good, I guess it depends on what you like. Did Gary give you a good price??
JBC ( 207.164.221.163 ) at 6:00 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Tony C: You guys ought to know that any gear I have is in primo condition and quite good. I seem to recall that you were and continue to be quite pleased with my SimAudio amp. 
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:56 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron H: Welcome to the JBC "hand me down" club.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:51 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
new sub
Joe: Come on man. Your wife will never recognize a new woofer in the corner. They all look the same (except for SVS).
JBC ( 207.164.221.163 ) at 5:50 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
Let us not forget to congratulate Ron H: on his new amp as he will be getting my Cinepro 3k6mkiii sometime next week!
JBC ( 207.164.221.163 ) at 5:47 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bryston Vs Cinepro
Well for those interested.... a decision has been made. I will be sticking with the Cinepro (at least for now):
a) The faceplates are ready and the rebadged (or should I say properly badged) amps will be shipping by Friday of next week. AVB, give Eric a call!!
b) The Cinepros have more punch -- not that this makes them better but the M&Ks can be rather power hungry.
c) The price difference or cost of US$1,650 to move from the 6 channels of Cinepro amplification to the 5 channels of Bryston amplification could not, at the end, be justified. For those interested, the cost of moving to six channels of Bryston amplification would have been $2,750.
d) Yes, yes... I know that I am an upgrade geek so... I will pocket the cash and use it in 18 months time when Cinepro come sout with the Mark IV, to purchase a PowerPro, to purchase a scaler or whatever -- point being, I can likely spend the $$$ better elsewhere.
Well that is my thinking! I do have until 9:00 AM Monday morning to change my mind so -- please let me know what you think and help me spend (or save) my $$$.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 5:28 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TGIF
RB:
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:09 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TGIF
RB: Still 3 hours left damnit!
RB ( 199.43.48.22 ) at 4:56 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TGIF
Today's word is "happy hour!" Can you say happy hour boys and girls? I just knew that you could!
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 4:49 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Initial meeting for whole house planning
CuRTis: Some of the best inwall speakers I have heard to date have been from Triad. They are at www.triadspeakers.com Just FYI.
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 4:34 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Anybody up for a Cigar Pass ?
Robert: -
Sounds like great fun. Unfortunately, I promised the son I was stopping.
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.64 ) at 4:28 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Anybody up for a Cigar Pass ?
Robert: Sounds great...but...I was diagnosed with asthma last year. No more smoke in these lungs at all.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:28 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Computer parts
So, what's a good online etailer for buying computer parts (cpu, mobo, video, card, case, the whole shebang...)? I've been scanning price watch a bit, but I'm wondering if anybody has ONE place that's pretty good all around. I hate ordering everything from a different place. It means more shipping $$, things arriving at different times, etc.
I want to build a computer with
1gHz AMD T-bird cpu
256 mb PC133 ram
Abit KT7A-RAID mobo
Nvidia GeForce2 MX w/ 32mb vram (on the low end side, I know)
~50 gb ide hdd (Maxtor or IBM probably...)
dvd-rom (what speed?)
CD-R (what speed?)
Sound Blaster (which one?)
Decent case w/ 300W p/s. (which one?)
This is NOT an HTPC... yet. I just want a good all-round system, that I can do some engineering work on, and play games, surf net, etc. I'm hoping that I can get most of this for around $1k.
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 4:27 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Mike D isn't in our member list...
Mike D: join the darkside man!(or at least email me so I can reply back to you)
Joe ( 205.188.199.181 ) at 4:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Acoustic Wall Covering
Chris L.: Thanks I sent for info.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:19 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa":
1. What Curtis said.
2. I don't know... check www.avsforum.com and go to the HDTV discussion
3. Don't know/haven't done that.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:17 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Anybody up for a Cigar Pass ?
Robert: Sounds cool, but I don't smoke. Howabout a DVD pass???
AVB ( 64.41.32.154 ) at 4:15 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA Winner!
BYork: Congrats! Mike D will be sending you a screener. Please send him an email with your address so he can mail it to you. I sent him an extra copy and he has volunteered it as a prize.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 4:07 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Acoustic Wall Covering
Joe: Hey Joe, I just received a sample card and price list from Acoustics First. I was looking at doing almost the same thing you are. I'm thinking of doing acoustic fabric up to about ear level, topping that off with a chair rail and then putting up some crown molding. They sent me a booklet with 60 color samples of their Sound Channels 2 fabric. Looks good. Only took them about 3 days to send it too. Here's the URL
http://www.acousticsfirst.com/sound%20channels-2.htm
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 3:58 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Anybody up for a Cigar Pass ?
Robert: That sounds kinda cool.
Robert ( 63.11.56.67 ) at 3:35 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Anybody up for a Cigar Pass ?
Off Topic, Are there enough cigar smokers here to do a Cigar Pass? That is a group of 6-12 individuals that pass a box of cigars around and take out some and put some in? The first guy usually puts in as many as there are participants and then it makes the USPS Priority Mail rounds across the country.
Can't you tell I'm ready for the weekend already.
I'd like to try this with a group of Scotch drinkers but I'm afraid it wouldn't make it past the first stop,, jus kidding
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 3:30 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": HD looks great on all the various receivers I have tried out including Unity Motion, DCT100, the 1st generation Panasonic. The diffs. are in the UI and how well/ quickly a particular receiver locks unto an OTA/ sat feed.
It's all good in other words.
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 3:13 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: Home-Brew
Wild Bill: -
He's the one who has the catch-phrase: "Relax, have a home-brew"
...and I resemble your remark about brewing so you can drink.
Wild Bill ( 63.57.200.82 ) at 3:10 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: Home-Brew
BYork: If it is The Home Brewer's Guide then yep, I'm familiar with it., You'd think the author would update the book with some current pictures. It's a wonder he makes a good beer at all. Brewing to him is just an excuse to drink beer while brewing.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 3:02 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Joe: Your wife has been talking to my wife.
BYork ( 159.37.7.57 ) at 3:00 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Wild Bill - How does your chili-beer keep? I've had problems with added ingrediants like that making the beer go "skunky" much more rapidly than normal...
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 2:59 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Kieran: Thanks for the feedback. I guess all I need to buy is a VGA cable and I am set.
Can anyone answer the following questions:- What is the difference in picture quality amongst the various HD-TV set top boxes available?
- Besides the RCA DTC-100 what other manufacturers make a HD-TV set top box that has a VGA output?
- Has anyone compared the video quality of DVD players that have 27 Mhz video DACs vs. ones that have 54 Mhz video DACs?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 2:59 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
My new toy
Just got it. Good golly is this thing quick, better be careful. The seller just confirmed why it looks so good besides always having been garaged/hangared. In 16 years it has NEVER ever been driven in the rain.
BYork ( 159.37.7.57 ) at 2:58 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: Home-Brew
Wild Bill: -
I got real tired of bottling..so went to cornelius kegs(coke syrup is dispensed form these in restaurants). You can hold 5 gallons in one, and dispense with CO2.
I'm partial to English Browns, Octoberfests(from grain), and dark beers in general. They do real well from kegs.
My wife, otoh, likes wheat beers, so I always have to brew two batches for everyone to be happy. If you're familiar with Papasian's book , she really likes Rocky Raccoon Honey Lager.
Joe ( 205.188.198.167 ) at 2:51 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
RickMTB: My wife says we can't afford a new one now
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 2:47 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Joe: I have a sadder story... I fear both my Vandersteen's are cooked. Both speakers have a buzzing sound in back (down near where the acoustic coupler is). My vandies have made a few moves in their lives (always in original boxes). They had been stored for a year or two. The speakers are pretty old though (about 12 years) so perhaps the combination of age and moves have taken their toll...
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 2:43 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Still a great movie...
Kieran: Get the movie. To be honest, I don't even know if its DD but the cinematography and the sound is breathtaking. Played it for my wife and mother-in-law a few months ago and they were both in tears...
Joe ( 205.188.198.167 ) at 2:42 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
I believe my sub has crooked. It just makes a fuzzy ripped sound. If I hold my hand on the rubber around the cone it's OK. As soon as I remove my hand zzzzzzzz. It does it at all volumes and crossover points.
Any suggestions?
Wild Bill ( 63.57.200.82 ) at 2:29 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: Home-Brew
BYork: Malt (syrup) and bottles. I tend to like lighter beers so I stick wit lagers, weiss, ales and the occassional pilsner. I have about a case and a half of a lager that I spiked with chile peppers from my garden. That beer is a definite ass-kicker.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:29 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Still a great movie...
RickMTB: Agreed. That's one film I do not have on DVD that I should. That quote still gives me chills... and makes me want to pack up and go fly fishin'!
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 2:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Still a great movie...
"Eventually, all things merge into one, and river runs through it.
The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are the words, and some of the words are theirs.
I am haunted by waters."
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 2:22 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: (again) funny of the day
Kieran: I have to remember to give this to my wife to read. I think it is very funny.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:21 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
cai: You are correct sir! My mistake. I actually knew this way back when... just totally forgot about it. (That and I've never heard anybody refer to them as steel cans... it threw me off!)
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 2:13 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
Kieran: Gentlemen (am I using this term loosely?), Tin is a metal by itself of which Bolivia has a lot. What is normally referred to as tin cans, are no more than tin coated steel cans. There are no tin cans per se, but tin coated steel cans.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:56 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: (again) funny of the day
You know that book "Men are from Mars, Women from Venus"? Well,
here's a prime example of that.
This assignment was actually turned in by two English
students: Rebecca and Gary English 44A SMU (Southern Methodist University, Dallas, Texas) Creative Writing Prof. Miller In-class Assignment for Wednesday.
Assignment: Today we will experiment with a new form called the
tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with
the person sitting next to him or her. One of you will
then write the first paragraph of a short story. The partner will
read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story.
The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back and
forth. Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order
to keep the story coherent. The story is over when both agree a
conclusion has been reached.
Begin:
At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted.
The chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at
home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier
times, that he liked camomile. But she felt she must now, at all
costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating,
and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up
again. So camomile was out of the question.
**
Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack
squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to
think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named
Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. "A.S.
Harris to Geostation 17," he said into his transgalactic
communicator."Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so
far..." But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed
out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship's cargo bay. The
jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across
the cockpit.
**
He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before
he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one
woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth
stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of
Skylon 4. "Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space
Travel." Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news
simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window,
dreaming of her youth -- when the days had passed unhurriedly and
carefree, with no newspapers to read, no television to distract her
from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around
her. "Why must one lose one's innocence to become a woman?" she
pondered wistfully.
**
Little did she know, but she has less than 10 seconds to live.
Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu'udrian mothership
launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dim-witted
wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace Disarmament
Treaty through Congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the
hostile Alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race.
Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu'udrian ships
were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the
entire planet. With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their
diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere
unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine
headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the
inconceivably massive explosion which vaporized Laurie and 85 million
other Americans. The President slammed his fist on the conference
table. "We can't allow this! I'm going to veto that treaty!!! Let's
blow'em out of the sky!"
**
This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of
literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic, semi-
literate adolescent.
**
Yeah? Well, you're a self-centered tedious neurotic whose
attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium.
**
Idiot.
**
Witch.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.113 ) at 1:51 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
Kieran:I thought they were tin also.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:44 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
cai: Steel cans??? Are you sure you don't mean tin? They made them out of tin before aluminum. Very old tin soda/beer cans are very tough... like Cambell's soup cans. Those were the days when crushing a can with your bare hands (let alone against your forehead) really meant something! Did they make them out of steel before that? YIKES! Holy rusty soda can, Batman! Tin cans oxidized bad enough as it was... can't imagine using steel.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.253 ) at 1:37 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
DVD Players
Gar: There are a bunch of iScan Pro users on the AVS forum, under scalers & video processors I think.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.253 ) at 1:36 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Crown Molding
Joe: I seem to recall my expert cut 30 degrees for the corners (not 45) and 45 degrees front to back - in a single cut. It's simple geometry really. The 3rd dimenstion is what confufes most people. You need to build a small corner to really get how to do it before you start cutting away.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.253 ) at 1:32 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: denim jeans
Kieran: Sounds cool but my daughter would be very upset if I bought anything with a Levi's tag on it. They're one of the worst human rights abusers, makes Cathy Lee & Nike look like saints.
Just about anything Nodrstoms sell is cool by her - I can think of worse places to shop.
BYork ( 159.37.7.57 ) at 1:10 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
cai: -
Yep. Remember how the media jumped all over the fact that Pres. Ford had Coors shipped to the White House?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:09 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
BYork: That the beer tasted that good does not surprise me. Do not forget that this was back in 1933, when cans were made of steel, not aluminum. You may be correct in stating that the new process now may degrade the taste a bit. There is a lot of research that goes on in this subject. For example, up to a few years ago Coors did not ship its beer much beyond the Continental Divide, claiming that the trip made it lose its freshness and flavor.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.28 ) at 1:04 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: denim jeans
Kieran: We have one of those stores in houston. I will give it try soon.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.28 ) at 1:01 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: denim jeans
Kieran: We have one of those stores in houston. I will give it try soon.
BYork ( 159.37.7.57 ) at 12:57 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: Home-Brew
Wild Bill -
Do you do syrup, or whole-grain? Bottles or cornelius keg?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:48 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
DVD Players
Gar: I think the only player on the horizon that most people are waiting for is the new $800 Denon with the SI chipset. Still no word (AFAIK) on that one.
Gar ( 169.207.194.196 ) at 12:33 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
DVD Players
Any news of any good units coming out? Also has anyone tryied the new iScanPro yet? Thanks.
Joe ( 64.12.105.23 ) at 12:33 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Crown Molding
Making the cuts is not to bad. Usally or at least in the jobs I have done its the room. I have yet to find perfect 90's in the corners. In this room I have been sitting in I ended up going 44 /46 and using a coping saw to blend them together. But this is HT forum, not wood working.
On a differnet note tehy have new help at the local radio shack. Had to wipe the droll off my chin
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 12:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Used receivers...
Seems there are a number of used receivers coming onto the market, especially the B&K AVR202 (I reckon many of these are being replaced by the new 305 and 307 models). I know a few of you have these... I recall heat was an early issue, but other than that any comments? I have also seen a few Marantz SR18s out there.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:26 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
New Outlaw receiver??
RickMTB: And hopefully they fixed the issues with bass management in the center surround channel (currently, you don't get any bass from that channel.)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:24 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
how yuppie is this?
SonicBit: More accurately, only in the SF/Silicon Valley area! Pretty cool though, just the same! Curtis, that means that even though I don't have the wireless thingamabobber for the folk's laptop, I could still join you and plug in! Next time I'm down, I'll bring the laptop, and we'll have to have lunch at this place. I'll drive my Dad's 740iL, you drive your Z-Car! LOL! (I refuse to tie a sweater around my neck though!)
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 12:23 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
New Outlaw receiver??
Read a rumor about Outlaw releasing a new receiver on or before May. Anyone have any info on this? Hopefully it will be a gutsier version of their current one (sorry, I still want over 100wts/ch).
Wild Bill ( 63.39.89.46 ) at 12:21 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
BYork: I need to do some brewing. I haven't made a batch of beer in about 2 years. I'd say it is abou time.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:17 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: denim jeans
I don't know if any of you all care about this, but I think it's awesome. If you love to wear jeans, you might agree. I'm talking about Levis Original Spin jeans. Levis has about 10 stores throghout the country where you can go and literally have a custom made pair of Levis jeans for you. You go in, they measure you, you choose a style, fit, material, add any custom fit features (roomier in the thigh, tappered leg, whatever) and they make a pair of jeans that will fit you LITERALLY better than any pair you've ever had. For me, this was a huge deal, as I have a 37.5" inseam, and normal jeans only come in 36" max inseam. So, now I can finally get a pair that fits right, and looks right. However, even though I most excited about the length I could get, I was most impressed with the fit when they arrived. I thought that it was really just going to be a basic Levis style, slightly modified for my waist and inseam measurements. But actually, they really did customize the fit throughout the whole pant. Anyway, the best part is the price. $55.00. Heck you could spend more than that on a pair of designer jeans, and even standard Levis are about $40 I think. When my sister first told me about it, I thought it was going to be like $100 bucks or so. I've bought three pairs in the last year (each a different color/material). They fully guarantee the jeans too. If they fail in any way to please, you just take them back. I recently took back a pair of 6 month old jeans because the rear pocket tore out with regular use, and they made me a new pair. Primarily though, the guarantee is for the fit. During the sizing process they said about a million times that if I didn't like the way the fit when they arrived that I could take them back and try again. (as a result, they are pretty exhaustive with the fitting process.) Anyway, if you're interested, check out www.originalspin.com and read all about it. There are only about 8 or 10 stores nationwide, though.
Oh, one cool thing that I forgot to mention was the actual measuring process. They have you put on a pair of snug cotton shorts, and then you stand in a scanning booth, and they SCAN your body! When you come out, there's a 3-D wiremesh model of your body on the computer screen, and from that they get your inseam, waist, hips, thigh, etc. measurements. Pretty cool!
Our Texas friends will appreciate that all the Original Spin jeans are made in TX.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 12:14 PM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
how yuppie is this?
CuRTis: Only in California...
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 11:48 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Initial meeting for whole house planning
CuRTis: Definitely. Count me in. email me any details about when/where we meet, etc.
BYork ( 171.72.5.75 ) at 11:36 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
Ron H : -
Actually, when I have the time, I prefer to brew my own, so it's draught-fresh.
It's been a while, though. I'm hoping to start up again this summer(...now that we've replaced our fridge and the old one has been demoted, er, promoted...to a beer fridge)
Ron H ( 63.61.208.87 ) at 11:14 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron H : Geeessss. "remodeled"
Ron H ( 63.61.208.87 ) at 11:07 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
LOL!!!remoulded=remolded
Ron H ( 63.61.208.87 ) at 11:03 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
BYork: I am a bottle baby.
Ron H ( 63.61.208.87 ) at 11:01 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
Joe: I tried doing crown moulding once in a bathroom I remoulded. I ened up having someone come in to do it. It sort of pisses me off that I just can't seem to get it and figure it out. The guys who do this all the time zip right through it. Some how it just does not compute with this old brain.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 11:00 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Cheapest prices on TVs
Co-worker got her first DVD player and now wants a new TV, prob is she really can't afford much (seems like she is shooting for $250). She was looking at Philips/Magnovoxs, I was suggesting trying for a RCA or better a Toshiba or Panasonic if she can find one. Any suggestions on places to search? Isn't there some web page that has lowest prices on things (I know I used something when I was looking for a camera). Thanks!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 10:54 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
their=they're. Kierans mom would be aghast
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 10:53 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
how yuppie is this?
Last night I went to my favorite microbrewery & grill. Their one of the POPs with the wireless LAN access. The place was mobbed yet somehow the waitress got me a great table large enough for my food, ale & notebook.
I fired up the computer, no LAN. I got the manager over and he said they were swapping out the transmitters and would be back up the next day. I was bummed as I really did have a bunch of email to reply to. The manager yells "catch this" and I reach out to grab an Ethernet cable. It seems that the establishment also has multiple DSL lines available for free customer use in about a dozen great places throughout the huge room.
He gave me the settings instructions & I was up in 2 minutes. Pretty cool, huh?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 10:47 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Initial meeting for whole house planning
Kieran: Want to get involved in the whole house A/V thing for my bud building that monster dreamhouse in Carmel? I'm to call his guy today. He has initial wiring diagrams that we can add whatever we want (within code, budget seems limitless)
Anyone here have experience with B&W's line of whole house switchers/hubs/inwall speakers?
BYork ( 171.72.5.75 ) at 10:43 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
CuRTis: -
Can you believe they thought canned beer tasted more like draught? IMO, it gives ANY beer a metallic taste. I avoid it at all costs..
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 10:41 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
BYork: There's a website for everything!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 10:40 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
Joe: Uhg! I just finished doing 3" wide crown molding for a single room for a friend. Measure twice, cut once. A master can do it with a miter box, the rest of us need a compound power mitre saw.
You have to think in 3D. Not only are you making 90 degree corner cuts (2D), you also must account for the depth angle. e.g. the face of each corner is narrower than the back of the molding. I got smart and took all my molding & room deminsions to a cabinet shop where they made perfect cuts. Best $20 I ever spent!
In my room I also had to install triangular shaped fir nailers under the crown for 2 reasons. 1) It's an old plaster wall with nothing to safely nail in to, and 2) there was a big gap between the back of the crown and the wall to ceiling corner. I put the nailer in with liquid nails (man that stuff really IS strong), then predrilled all nail holes.
Have fun. Crown looks great but it's a challenge fitting it properly.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 10:33 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OT: Getting healthy again...
Kieran: Great to see you are back on the bike. I rode (on road) for the first time in months to start to prepare for the MS150 (Houston to Austin) in April. Flatted the rear tire of the 'bent (which I will ride on the MS150). Replaced the tube but exploded at a gast station trying to get back up to 100psi. Ruined the rim in the process. Finished the ride anyway, and called a local dealer to cost out a new rim (and build on teh wheel). He asked the age of the bike (3 yr) and said "Gee, I can take it as a trade in on a Vision or Rans." Bastard!
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 10:32 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
James Speakers
New toys at my buddies dealership last night when I stopped by. A full set of James speakers in the theater room. I saw a picture of them on one of the CES 2001 coverage sites. They have the three harp like metal rods instead of a cloth frame over the speakers. $18,000 for all of the speakers including sub. Very impressive sound. The two channel was as good as anything I've heard for awhile including $12,500 German Physiks. Surround was awesome.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 10:29 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
AKA: Good Morning. Didn't get back yesterday after posting to you. I have decided against getting the EAD Signature at this time. I actually had a choice of the Signature or a Pioneer Elite PRO-510HD TV. Brian offered me the alternative choices for my help in securing and helping him through a big job. We ran a pole here last week and the decision was the 510. I will have it delivered after I return from Puerto Vallarta in two weeks. I should have all the HD gear by the end of March.
BYork ( 171.72.5.75 ) at 10:11 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
AVB: -
The Gottfried Krueger Brewing Company of Newark, NJ decided to take the gamble and was the first brewer to package beer in cans in October of
1933 when they test marketed 2,000 units of Krueger's Special Beer in the new fangled container. The results of the tests were promising, 91% liked
the beer and 85% indicated that canned beer tasted more like draft beer. After several months of weighing the pros and cons of beer in cans, the Krueger Brewing
Company gave the go ahead and on January 24th 1935 the first PUBLIC sale of canned beer began when Krueger's Finest Beer and Cream Ale went on sale in
Richmond, Virgina. Stolen from the Beer Can Collectors SOciety Website....
Joe ( 64.12.105.44 ) at 10:05 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
Ron H : Crown would look cool. I seen a product this summer that was Crown made out of a injected foam. It was a bit cheaper then wood and a little giving for out of square rooms. I am not sure how that would work in your case. It might work twofold as sound absorbation and cosmitiac (sp)I will try to find it over the weekend.
Have you ever cut crown molding?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.138 ) at 10:04 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Kieran: Yes, the mechanic offered to buy it. Usually a good sign that he approves.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.135 ) at 9:01 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
Joe: My reasearch has found that you do not want the sound bouncing off the side walls. This can create multiple reflections which cause the sound to be muddy. You do want the area above ear level and the rear wall to be a little livlier because this will help with the dispersion of the output of the rear and or side speakers.
You may get a similar effect with careful placement of acoustic panels around the room but it would not look quite as neat or clean. I will be adding acoustical materials at the points the ceiling meets the corners or use crown moulding all the way around the ceiling. I an real close to going with the crown moulding and putting string/rope type lights inside of it. It should make for a dramatic effect.
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 8:53 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Then there was Deb, who was uncomftable in the tent. Waht could she talk about " Yea, sex I like it with my stepson" You just know the people she works with are having a lot of fun with that.
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 8:50 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Wild Bill: Yea,,we were saying both people from Michigan look stupid, Michale and Kieth.
Now that personel Trainer from NY, you can almost read her lips though the silver Bikini.
Collen from the first show has them all beat.
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 8:47 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Way off topic
I guess I need to start thinking about baby names, I was thinking a tradtional Danish or French name.
Any good baby name books, I know some of you just had kids in the past year or so???????
Wild Bill ( 64.12.103.49 ) at 8:47 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Joe: Survivor. Yep, Jerri looks good but what a ruthless bitch. I can't go with the idea that going through someone's personal belongings is OK. I can't say that I care for any of the women this time. Kimmi is another bitch and the old toothless one and Tina broke a vow they made with Kel. I wouldn't mind it if about 10 people on this show ended up as croc bait. Don't even get me started on that idiot Michael. Dang, it should be a good show.
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 8:45 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Since we are @ 22 weeks now my wife is starting to refer to the theater room " That room that would make a nice nursery" I reply, " We can buy some kids DVDs"
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 8:43 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
ounds = sounds. By now everyone should be used to my typos
Joe ( 205.188.198.49 ) at 8:40 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
Ron H : I do screw & glue. Any clues on how you are going to decide on where to put the treatments? I considered duing a winscotting with sound panels as you mentioned. But that leaves a lip of around 1.75". I could make a trim that would handle that, but what if it ounds worse? That would be a considerable amount of time and effort.
I am starting to get real excited about the theater room. All I have left to do is paint my bedroom, and I am waiting on the wallpaper for that. Tehn it's all theater room
Ron H ( 63.61.199.135 ) at 8:35 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
olan=plan
Ron H ( 63.61.199.135 ) at 8:33 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
Joe: If possible use both screws and glue when putting up the wall board.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.135 ) at 8:31 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
Joe: No room treatments as of yet. I olan to undertake that project this summer. I still do not know just what or how at this point. I do know the lower part of my room to about ear level(34" or so) will be treated with some type of acoustical material.
Joe ( 205.188.199.57 ) at 8:15 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Ron
I have decided to drywall the theater room. I looked at sound panels,but noticed that they still had drywall ( or chipboard) behind them. After that I will try some of the panels they show on AVScience, they seem basic enough to construct.
Have you tried any room treatments yet?
Joe ( 205.188.199.57 ) at 8:11 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Well was it Surviour or Frineds lastnight? Myself it was Surviour. Friends was taped. I would have to leanr towards Jerri as the best Bikini so far.
Joe ( 205.188.199.57 ) at 8:09 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Morning all, Its as nice 10 degrees here this morning
Joe ( 205.188.199.57 ) at 8:05 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
10HT deal
Cytotech: NO, I just knew you were in the market.
Ron H ( 63.61.208.65 ) at 7:58 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Good Morning all.
MikeD ( 131.137.112.104 ) at 7:34 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Trivia
AVB: Let me know who wins, I'll send them that extra screener you sent me a while back.
AVB ( 64.41.32.244 ) at 6:34 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
TRIVIA!
Where was the first canned beer sold? Meaningless bonus question: Who made it? Normal rules and a DVD to the winner!
Kieran ( 172.162.239.207 ) at 1:31 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
CuRTis:He offered by $8K today & he'll propbaly resell it.
I don't understand this part... Your mechanic wanted to buy it for $8k?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.37 ) at 1:31 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
CuRTis: You really have a way of making people like you...
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.103 ) at 1:28 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Kieran: Tks man. It was parked in the main lot of the ultra-secure warehouse where my 'puters are stored, you were there. The owner is the son of the couple who operates the facility. They had just removed it from storage 10 minutes before I arrived and had 4 people very interested already.
Try as I might to ignore it because I was going at my usual 110% pace, I couldn't believe how clean/ perfect it looked. There was a FS sign on it but I figurred a collector would pay big $ for it. When I asked the dude the price & he replied $3K, I just said yes - subject to a test drive & my mechanic checking it out.
My mechanic who is mostly a Eurepeon specialist said all systems checked out as new. He offered by $8K today & he'll propbaly resell it. Compression came in at 99/100/100/98/100/100%!
I had no choice! I'll keep the Saab Turbo for >2 people & stuff hauling, but this will be my main ride for some time. Screw the Bimmers for 10's of thousands.
Kieran ( 172.162.239.207 ) at 1:21 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
CuRTis: The picture says 1984... is it an '84 or is that just a stock picture?
Kieran ( 172.162.239.207 ) at 1:18 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
CuRTis: Awesome... Congrats... how'd you find it? Did you know the guy, or what? BTW, good luck toating 3 21" monitors in that li'l thang.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.103 ) at 1:15 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
BIG AL: What do you think? It's the 5 speed of course. No auto can shift better than me, with the possible exception of the current $260K Ferarri's.
Kieran ( 172.162.239.207 ) at 1:14 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
new toy, cont'd
CuRTis: Yeah, but is it a stick or auto? How many miles, and what year?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.103 ) at 1:07 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
new toy, cont'd
This thing looks & drives as if it was 18 months old. California (away from the salt coast at least) is very king to cars, not a single sign of rust.
2 owners. The original was a private jet pilot (Gulfstream V currently) who wanted to go fast & handle great on the ground. Overmaintained by his jet mechanic, whenever he pulled into the hangar the mechanic would change the oil & tweak everything - like once every other week. He actually felt badly saying that it had been ungaraged for a grand total of 3 nights.
Owner #2: A motorcycle fanatic who also owns a 911 Turbo, he prefers this car for everyday driving. In the past 6 months he put a lot into this cage, including:
Sony top-end CD/tuner deck & all new speakers, ready for a subwoofer
500 miles on Michelin Pilot XGTV4 sport tires (latest technology safe to 200 MPH)
New factory power antenna, rear hatch struts, timing belt, water pump, radiator, brake rotors & disks
New bra (big deal but does look kinda cool and protects the nose)
This thing was Nissan's tour-de-force way back when. Includes full alarm, semipolished alloy wheels in like new condition and the female computerized voice that reminds you if a door is ajar or if you left the lights on.
New price: $29K+
My price: $3K
The obvious ? is why on earth is the guy selling, esp if he put so much into it lately. Answer: I'm getting married and the wife really wants a minivan! He's really pissed at having to let go of this near perfect specimen, but hey, gotta keep the wife happy too.
Color is anthracite ext/ light gray interior. I feel like I'm totally taking advantage of the guy, but we both win ... esp. me
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.73 ) at 12:55 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Curtis; So which is it? The gurly auto, or the manly manual?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.73 ) at 12:52 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Scott pop; Me? Never! I don't want my name plastered at the top of the page to be ridiculed!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.37 ) at 12:48 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
spill chikur inscentuv
BIG AL: Are you trying to tell me something?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.103 ) at 12:42 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
OK, I'll fess up ;-)
Specs:
BODY TYPE: 2 seater coupe, t-tops
ENGINE TYPE: SOHC 3.0 V6 Turbo, iron block and aluminum heads
BORE x STROKE: 3.43 X3.27 in, 87.0 X 83.0mm
COMPRESSION RATIO: 7.8:1
FUEL SYSTEM: Nissan ECCS electronic fuel injection
TURBOCHARGER: AirResearch T5
MAXIMUM BOOST PRESURE: 6.7 psi
DISPLACEMENT 181cu in.
HORSEPOWER (SAE net): 200hp @ 5200rpm
TORQUE (SAE net): 227 lbs-ft @ 3600 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 4spd Automatic or 5spd Manual
SUSPENSION:
F: ind, MacPherson strut, coil sprints, anti-sway bar
R: ind, semi-trailing arms, coil springs, anti-sway bar
3 way adjustable shock absorbers
BRAKES:
F: 10.8-in vented disc
R: 11.4-in disc
BRAKING 60-Omph: 130 ft.
CURB WEIGHT: 3,050 lbs
DRAG COEFFICIENT: .31 Cd.
ACCLERATION 0-60: 7.0 seconds
QUARTER MILE: 15.44 sec @ 89.5 mph
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.73 ) at 12:02 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Bagman; I hope the old gal can handle the trip!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.73 ) at 12:00 AM EST Friday, February 2, 2001
Tony C; "We pludded in the Energy cube" I think that might void the warranty. 
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.73 ) at 11:58 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
spill chikur inscentuv
"Ode to the Spell Checker!"
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
~~~~~~
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.73 ) at 11:56 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Curtis; Jeez! Give a guy a chance to catch up with all the posts! My wife owned a 300ZX for 6 or 7 years, till rust started attacking it's tender parts. She absolutely loved it, and hated to get rid of it. Her's was non-turbo, and blazingly fast. Definately fun, but not what I'd compare to a motorcycle. I probably don't want to know, but I'll bite.....how much?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:33 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Subs
My 19 yr old and his frined watched THe Cell with me tonight.Not a bad flick. I just can't stand J Lo.
Afterward, we pludded in the Energy cube. THey were amazised at how mcuch bass could come from a wlittle box like that. And so was I . We all agreed taht the cube was every bit as "chest thumping" as the SVS.
We played lots fo scenes.
At the end however. We talked about cost. I expained that the SVS was around $800 and the Energy was about $1,100 ($1,500 list).
THe boys thoght that the cube, although impressive, was not worth the extra $300. I noted that Nipper couldn't sit on top of the cube either. They just thought I was nuts. But I kind of miss having Nipper sitting in the corner.
After the sub demo, I walked them through the set up process on the DC-2. I was trying to explain that when doing comparisons, you should really set up the speakers so that the refference levels match.
My sons friend is a physics major and really enjoyed the demo of bass management. It's great to share a hobby with your kids.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:21 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Z
CuRTis I opened the link and looked at the car.
It's really cute.
Congratulations.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.123 ) at 11:13 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
10HT deal
Joe: Are you thinking about getting this projector from Cinesource?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.37 ) at 11:07 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Kieran: No offense... I just thought it needed commented on, but didn't know what to say.
Kieran ( 172.155.89.6 ) at 10:36 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CuRTis: Another email is coming your way... I apparently made a typo in your addy the first time.
Kieran ( 172.155.89.6 ) at 10:18 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CuRTis: One thing I wrote in the email... More important than how much you like it, is how much does B like it???
LOL!
Kieran ( 172.155.89.6 ) at 10:12 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ron H: Damn! And here I'd thought I'd found my theological soul mate!
Ron H ( 63.44.227.70 ) at 10:09 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Kieran: LOL The DTC.
Kieran ( 172.155.89.6 ) at 10:09 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CuRTis: I EMAILED YOU ABOUT IT!!! A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO! I guess you didn't get the email... hmmmm. So anyway, please, do tell. Why a Z-Car? And what is that, an '89 or so?
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.86 ) at 9:59 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
And you think you know who your friends are Not one of you cares to hear about my new 4 wheeled motorcycle that'll do 0 to 60 in 6 seconds?
Fine.
Kieran ( 172.155.89.6 ) at 9:42 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
OT: Getting healthy again...
Well, I went for my first workout today since my lung incident in December. It's been 7.5 weeks, and boy am I outta shape. I went for a bike ride around my part of town... about 10 miles. Kept it at about 18~19 mph average, with which I was pleased given my condition. We'll see how I feel tomorrow. Felt good to exercise again though.
Kieran ( 172.155.89.6 ) at 9:39 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": To answer another question you had on the DTC and HDTV, I don't believe there is any difference in the signal between VGA/db15 and RGBHV/5BNC. I'm pretty sure the signals are the same... it's just a different type of connector is all.
Ron H: Correct on all counts re. what? About God messing up, or about the DTC???
AVB ( 64.41.33.155 ) at 8:47 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Sats
Joe: You won't need an AB switch at all. There are two inputs on the back of a DSS receiver. One is for the Sat signal and the other is more or less a pass thru for OTA signals. To watch DSS you would turn it on and select the Video one or two input channel on the TV. If the TV doesn't have that then you could send the DSS programming to channel 3 or 4 as selected on the back of the DSS receiver. At the TV without a DSS receiver you could just split out the OTA with a diplexer and not worry about the DSS output. Just let it hang.
OTOH, if you are trying to get DSS programs on the TV WITHOUT a DSS receiver then you have to take the coax output of the DSS box run it thru a normal splitter and feed one of those to the local TV and the other to the remote TV. On the remote TV you could watch whatever was being shown on the main TV that has the DSS receiver.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:06 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
premier
JBC I could not find the URL for repremier either. The best I can do is give you the Address and phone number
premier, AudioStream
M.P.O. Box 2410, Niagara Falls, NY 14302
Phone: 905 632-0180
Ron H ( 63.44.133.57 ) at 7:56 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Kieran: You are correct on all counts.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.204 ) at 7:54 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
10HT deal
Thanks for the e-mail, bud!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 7:51 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Happy B-Day Bouncey!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 7:50 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
God messed up...
SonicBit: LOL! I thought of the hunter aspect of it, but not the picking berries!!!
Scott: Hey, sorry if I offended... I was just messing around... nothing serious in that post at ALL!!!
RB ( 205.188.198.163 ) at 7:41 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Bouncey: Happy B-Day!
Wild Bill ( 63.20.247.46 ) at 7:21 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
SVS
Tony C: Just think about those helicopters you "felt".
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.177 ) at 7:20 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Cat 5
Joe: Cat 5 stuff is FUN! Quite easy too
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.177 ) at 7:19 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
God messed up...
Kieran: Hmmm... okay
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 7:03 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
SVS
whether or not I keep the SVS sub, I have to say that the cusomer service is the best I have ever experienced.
Flew back from MSP today and stopped off to pick up the little Energy cube based on the Sunfire design.
I'm just trying subs out to see if I'm keeping the SVS.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:02 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
God messed up...
Kieran: It goes back to the hunter/gatherer days. Men hunted and needed to see the details. Women needed to know colors so as to not pick the wrong berries.
(Might as well add fuel to the fire!)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 6:38 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
God messed up...
I was just thinking about the little SuperBowl bang we had at Curtis' pad, and those beautiful 21" Sony G500 monitors we had hooked up to the OTA HD feed. My sister, who's the opposite of a techno-geek (not into high tech stuff, and definitely not a geek) was there. She's a professional graphic designer and has a great eye for how colors go together, and all that artsy stuff. Anyway, she was just going on and on about how amazing the picture was on the Sony monitors. I agreed that it was great, but I was surprised at her response, since she's usually not overly excitable about techno stuff. It was truly the image quality that impressed her. She didn't care how it was delivered or what the scan rate was, or resolution, or interlacing or progressive, or anything.
So anyway, this reminded me about a basic physiological fact that I learned some time ago... women have better color perception than men. The female species has more cones in their eyes than men. Granted men usually have more rods so men see better detail. However, if I recall correctly, the difference in the average female's and male's color perception, is greater than the difference between the male's and female's detail acuity. Typical of God (or the maker, or evolution, or whatever fill in the blank) to give men an interest in techno stuff like HDTV, and give women the better ability to appreciate it! (This all makes the hugely sexist assumption that men are more interested in techno stuff than women... an assumption usually well validated by the gender ratio of this an many other HT boards.)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 6:24 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": Curtis or RGB or RonH or Wild Bill can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's anything you need to do to use the DTC100 with a VGA monitor at all. Just plug and play, or watch as the case may be. When I hooked mine up at Curtis' house to the two 21" monitors, all I did was just shift the image a bit using the monitor's on screen display. If you're going to a display device using the 5BNC option, then you sometimes have to go into the DTC100 menu and shift the raster image a bit. But there's no setting for using VGA out vs. BNC or anything like that in the menu. There's only ONE digh def output on the DTC, and that's the db15 VGA out jack. To go to 5BNC you need a "breakout cable" which is a cable with db15 VGA on one end, and 5 (RGBHV) BNC plugs on the other. This cable is available at almost any computer store, since many higher end computer monitors used to only take 5BNC. On another note, if you need component output of the DTC, then you need a transcoder box.
The next best thing in bang/buck right now (after the DTC) is probably the Toshiba box that just came out. It's going for about $900, with some rebates offered that bring the SRP down to about $700. For details, head over to the AVS forum.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.21 ) at 6:06 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
BIG AL: E-mail received, sounds like a deal to me. Speaking of analog,I have an old Akai receiver,circa 1980 - 82 that I used to power zone 2,my outdoor deck speakers,anyway the old receiver made them sound much better than my unused Denon 3600. Go figure. Thanks for the deal!!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:53 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
BC
Gar: Glad to hear you had a good time. Catch you next time!
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 5:33 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
I just realized there is a Birthday today.
Bouncey: Happy Birthday!
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 5:32 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Gasgeek: Did you get your EAD preamp yet?
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 5:27 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Gasgeek: Thanks. Things have been busy for me as usual. Sarah seems to get cuter ever day and I am not being biased about that I bought a SLP-98 preamp for my father in-laws' system I am building. He is going to have one stellar of a music and HT system. How have things been with you?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:16 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Hey AKA, how's it hangin'. Long time no talk. I understand you picked up some more Cary gear from Brian. Glad to hear that you and the new baby are getting along well.
Gar ( 169.207.194.166 ) at 5:12 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Someone was asking about Sonys 10ht
Joe: That be the price I paid, not bad at all.
Gar ( 169.207.194.166 ) at 5:10 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
BC
Just got back from Dallas. Didn't even have time to pick up a phone, there was 2500 other reps from our company there. I must say they sure know how to put on a show. The entertainment was the Saturday Night Live crew and there band, and then Brian Setzer(sp)band played. We also did manage to get
to Club Royale and the Lodge. Not bad
RGB ( 64.18.6.191 ) at 4:59 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": No, it's not documented.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:54 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
RGB: Thanks for the info. By the way, is that documented anywhere in the DTC-100 owners manual?
RGB ( 64.18.6.191 ) at 4:53 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": Also, make sure the DTC-100 is in satellite mode, and tuned to channel 100 for the upgrade process.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:51 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Okay guys here are some more questions for you. Have any of you compared the video quality of something like the Pioneer Elite DV-09 to the current crop of DVD players. In other words, how does the video quality fare on the DV-09 compared to the recent crop of DVD players? Also, has anybody compared the video quality on DVD players that use 27MHz vs 54MHz video DACS?
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:43 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Meant to say, "This is new territory for me."
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.109 ) at 4:42 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": The new firmware is downloaded via the satellite. All you have to do is leave it turned on and the firmware download will occur.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:42 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Wild Bill: Thanks for the info! This is new territory.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:41 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": Yes, most do. In fact there was a rumor that all on shelves were sent back to get the firmware. If you have a dish connected to it (single, non HD is fine) it'll automagically receive it in the wee hours. If you don't have a dish simply take it to a friend who does & leave it connected overnight. That's one reason Kieran brought his to my place. Got the upgrade (along with a possible ECM that may have fried his H card ;-()
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:40 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CuRTis: I have also noticed that the price on the RCA DTC-100 has gone down which is a really good thing. How does the picture quality on the RCA DTC-100 compare to other HD-TV set top boxes on the market?
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.109 ) at 4:40 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": I thought I already posted this. VGA IS RGB(HV)!
The "change" you'd have to make is probably for the sync. With BNC connections there are 3 varieties. Sync on green, composite sync (4 BNC), and separate horizontal and vertical sync (RGBHV).
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:38 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CuRTis: Thanks for the info. This is what exactly what I have been looking for. Do the current batches of RCA DTC-100 have the latest firmware?
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:36 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": The default DTC output is VGA, so you should be good to go. Try the Long Retrace Timing option in that same menu. RBG & RGBHV are pretty much the same thing in this case. H & V are narmally used when sync isn't delivered either on green (old Mac II style) or elsewhere in the R & B signals.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:35 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CuRTis: I sit about 10' back from it. I really want the 38" Aconda but don't have the room for it right now. I watched Glador the other night and the picture image was beyond belief. I was marveling at how smooth the motion is on the set. Cox analog cable, however, look like crap on the TV.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:34 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": You won't need to get into the service mode for this if you have the latest firmware. It's now located in the Monitor Settings menu.
Derb ( 208.134.148.135 ) at 4:33 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Value DVD player
Bobb: I just bought the Sony S360 with rebate $179.00 and has everything but a progressive output.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 4:30 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Curtis/Wild Bill: My Loewe Aconda HD-TV does have a VGA input. Okay is RGBHV the same as VGA? I remember reading something somewhere about having to go into the RCA DTC-100 service menu and making a change for the VGA output.
Joe ( 64.12.102.161 ) at 4:28 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Value DVD player
Bobb: Montgomery Wardds is going out of business. You may want to check in Port Huron to see if they have one. I seen the Toshiba SD1600 for $179 this week here in Flint. They had several models I just checked on that one for my mother in law.
If I recall there is a MG in a mall a few miles from the bridge.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:27 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": You own a beautiful display. How far are you sitting from it?
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:26 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Wild Bill: Works the same with the following cable, 15 pin VGA on one end/ 3 or 5 BNC's on the other end. The monitors I'm using each have dual in's 1 x 15 pin & 1 x 5 BNC (RGBHV). They both work fine.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:24 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
On topic for once
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": In the case of the DTC100 the terms RGB & VGA are interchangeable. How do I know? I have Kieran's now connected to 2 21" VGA computer monitors (via a Belkin VGA 1 in - 4 out VGA splitter). Looks dreamy.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.109 ) at 4:23 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa": VGA is RGB. My understanding is that the output is configured as VGA. I'd have to get a VGAt to 5 BNC breakout cable to hook a DTC-100 up to my projector. You'd just need a VGA cable IF the Loewe has a VGA input that is the DTV input.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:20 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Golf on USA
Wild Bill: Pebble Beach is even more amazing in person. In fact my client just called to say he has some extra tix for this weekend that he wants to give me as a thank you. Just the location I need to remove the T-Tops and put the pedal to the metal
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:10 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
DOH!, post the photo URL stupid!
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=239792&a=11331151&p=39781556
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.243 ) at 4:05 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
OT - the deals just keep falling in my lap
I just couldn't resist. This thing FORCED me to buy it. Yes, it was unscenely inexpen$ive. I won't bore y'all with the details unless begged to (please do!)
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 3:37 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Can someone answer a question for me. I have heard that the RCA DTC-100 comes configured so that the output connector outputs a RGB signal. How do you go about setting the output connector to output a VGA signal? I have also been told that the RCA DTC-100 outputs a video delay that may cause problems with some video devices.
Michael AKA "The Proud New Pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 3:32 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Value DVD player
Bobb: Take a look at the Toshiba SD-1200 or SD-1600 DVD players. I have owned a SD-1200 for the past 8 months and can report absolutely no audio drop outs. Before I bought the SD-1200 I was concerned about the audio drop out problems that have been reported with previous generation Toshiba DVD players. It seems that the newest generation Toshiba DVD players do not suffer from this problem. You can probably pick up one for about $200. In this price range there will not be a lot of difference in video quality amongst the different brands available. The SD-1200 and SD-1600 does have component video outputs. I can also report that the SD-1200 produces a stellar picture on my Loewe Aconda 30" 16:9 TV using either the S-Video or component video outputs.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.109 ) at 3:20 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Golf on USA
Damn, is Pebble Beach beautiful. I absolutely have to play that course some day.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.109 ) at 3:19 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
FP
BC: Others will probably chime in but the rule of thumb that I've learned for S-Video is to try to keep it to 25 feet or less. I'm using a 25 foot run to my RPTV and I can see no degradation in the image. YMMV.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.109 ) at 3:17 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
FP help
cai: Yep, my screen is a "flipper" like JohnO's. By fixed I do mean a stiff (rigid) frame. The only pulldowns I could comfortably recommend would be a tab-tensioned screen. The basic pulldowns just have too many waves for our discerning eyes. The waves create the appearance of shadows in the image that are not really there. Quite annoying.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:14 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
FP
Wild Bill, thanks. I already have power where I am planning on putting the projector so no problem there. I would go with a fixed screen and I already assumed it needed to be level. I would device some type of contraption to keep it level and sturdy. Would I have a problem if the s-video run is around 50ft?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 3:10 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
FP help
Wild Bill: If I remember correctly, your screen is in front of your RPTV. If that is the case and you have a fixed screen, how do you get it out of the way to watch the TV? Are you flipping it up like JohnO? Also, when you say fixed, does that mean that it is in a stiff frame al the time? In other words it does not scroll up for storage. Final question, are there any good pulldown screens?
Ron H ( 63.61.205.39 ) at 2:58 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Value DVD player
Bobb: You can not go wrong with th etoshiba or Pioneer line in that price range. Will you be feeding a HD monitor? If that is the case you may want to consider a Progressive Scan unit to get the most out of it.
MikeD ( 131.137.112.104 ) at 2:41 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Bryston Amps
JBC: Sorry for the delay, sent you an e-mail with the details you requested.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.109 ) at 2:30 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
FP help
BC: I'd lose the fan. You're going to need the electricity anyway and that gives you a good wire nearby to tie into. The screen hanging from the curtain rod thing ain't gonna work. In order to achieve a good image you need a screen that hangs perfectly flat and is always in the same position. It needs to be mounted to the wall or (probably in your case) ceiling. The biggest mistake made (IMHO) by new projector owners (and I made this one too) is not placing enough value upon the quality of the screen. I started out with a Da-Lite Model B manual pulldown and now have a Da-Lite Cinemavision Fixed screen which is much better. However, it still isn't what I want and I will be doing a screen upgrade within the next 6 to 12 months. Regards.
Joe ( 152.163.197.46 ) at 2:25 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Maybe next week we can talk about CAT-5 distubution
Joe ( 152.163.197.46 ) at 2:23 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
BC
I should have read the entire post before responding, sorry.
Joe ( 152.163.197.46 ) at 2:22 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
FP help
BC: I asked a similiar question in my room layout. The nswer came back use a low profile fan. In my case it would not much of a problem since I have 10' cielings and the projector would hang down abit. Do you have a high cieling or just 96"
Joe ( 152.163.197.46 ) at 2:18 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Sats
AVB: I am already pre-wired with dual RG-6 runs to each location. Each location is home runned back to the theater room. If I am understanding this I can use one run to each location and use a Diplexer to split at the tv location. I would then need 2 inputs on the TV, since I only have one input it would require an A/B switch.
I could use both RG-6 runs, one each for Sat & Antenea, I would then still need a A/B switch at the TV location. IN the Theater room I would need a multi switch or a video distubution amp. If I used something like the Channelplus DA-550 ( 3 inputs 8 outputs) I could run the antenea VCR1 & VCR2 on one of the RG-6 runs and use the other RG-g run for sat distubution. I would need to modulate the 2 VCR signals to say channels 87 & 88.
I have a dual LNBF so I could go into SAT1 and out to another Video amp. The RCA outputs from SAT1 would go to inputs on VCR1 for recording purpose. SAT2 would go to another input on the same Video amp. The RCA outputs would go to VCR2, again for recording purposes. The S-Video ouotput from SAT1 would feed my RPTV. But wait I would again have to modulate the 2 seperate SAT signals to say channels 90 & 91 in order fro me to watch Discovery and her to watch E.
I would still need to combine with an A/B switch on the one input TVs. Buying new TVs is not an option at this time.
Just thinking out loud, looking for inputs (no pun intended)
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:18 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
FP help
Hey, projector gurus, got a question. If there is a ceiling fan in the middle of my room with lights and I want the projector to shoot an image past it, does the projector have to be lower than the lights hanging down from the fan? Does the projector usually get put horizontally to the top of the screen? Hope that makes sense. You can look at my pics and get an idea of what I want to do. I want to put the projector on top of the cabinets between where the surrounds are. I would hang the screen from the curtain rods in front of the curtains (right behind where the RP is now) Do you think it could work? The fan or at least the lights can be removed.
Tell me I can't do it, go ahead, I dare you! hehe
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 1:53 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Oops. I guess that AVB beat me to it.
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 1:52 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Joe: The multiswitch at the head end will combine the OTA and Sat signal. At each TV the RG6 goes through a diplexer that splits the signal back out into two cables. One for OTA and one for satellite. You then just connect the appropriate cables for each TV.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:52 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Value DVD player
Bobb: Pioneer DV-333. About $200 just about anywhere, $160 or so if you shop around a lot (i.e. online). Great no-frills player, but includes all the essentials for DVD-video, including component outputs dd and dts digital out (tos and coax), and cd-r readability (a big plus IMHO). My girlfriend bought one, and so did her Dad (both on my recommendation). I set them both up, and have been pleased with both of them, as are their owners.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:47 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ethics/Law (oxymoron?) 101
CuRTis: LOL! Hey, I'm the one who thought you were over 6 feet originally, after which I thought you said you were only 5'10 or 5'11" thus the 8 or 9 inches. My mistake. Yeah, Irish tempers can be bad, but I was just joking... most of those tantrums were fuled by teenage issues (even though one was when I was 23...) I've calmed down quite a bit! Also, don't forget that you're in good shape right now, and I'm waaaayyy outta shape (that whole lung thing). Anyway enough of this talk... it was funny to start with but it's getting a little silly (at least on my part!)
AVB ( 64.41.32.246 ) at 1:41 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Sats
Joe: If you have the multiswitch and the diplexers you don't have to worry about "overpowering" your antenna input. If you just have a single LNB dish and want OTA and DSS in one room and just OTA in another there are a few ways to do this. One with the least wires is antenna and DSS diplexed (outside)into one wire. That wire goes to a 2Ghz splitter, from the splitter a wire goes to each room. In each room a diplexer is attached to split the 2 signels back out. In the room with the DSS you would use both the antenna and DSS output from the diplexer. In the room without DSS you would just use the antenna output from the diplexer. Let me know if you have any further questions.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.53 ) at 1:22 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Value DVD player
Bobb: Welcom Bobb, are you new here? There are lots of great DVD players on the market today representing great value - eps. when compared with my original Sony DVP-7000 that ran a cool $1,200 and there were a grand total of about 6 DVD titles available!
If I were in your shoes I would determine my needs & budget. Is component video something you can or want to use? It's pretty difficult to find a player without DTS. Get this even if you can't decode it in case you want to resell it down the road (you're not missing much IMHO).
The best value for an admittadly low end player I have seen is a GE refurb model at Fry's Electronics here in the SF area. $79, nearly disposable.
JBC ( 207.164.221.164 ) at 1:18 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Help... I need the URL for Premier equipment racks. Please respond ASAP!
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.53 ) at 1:18 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ethics/Law (oxymoron?) 101
Kieran: More like 7 inches. It's the 20 yearage delta I worry about more. Not to generalize nor put down but don't for get that I was married for 15 years to someone with the maiden name of McCandless. I know all about being on the wrong side of Irish tempers!
Bobb ( 207.229.2.246 ) at 1:09 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Value DVD player
Hi guys...I'm looking for some advice. I just sold my Toshiba 2108 DVD player. I had problems with an audio glitch between it and my Sony SDP E800 DD processor. Anyway, I'm out of the loop on what's available for DVD Players, other than they have come down a lot in price. What is my best bet for a player in the $250-350 range
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:50 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
SHEESH!!!
Geeze, I take one evening off from posting, and Curtis goes and gets a big head.... I guess I've got to stick around just to keep him grounded in reality on planet Earth. It's no wonder... with all the deals he's getting lately, I'd think I was an HT God too! (key word in that sentance is THINK.)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:46 PM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ethics/Law (oxymoron?) 101
cai: Bigger? Yes... by about 8 or 9 inches taller, and maybey 30 or 40 lbs heavier. A gun? Well, no... but he has other weapons and resources... Prone to violence? Well not usually towards his "friends" but he has been known to kick his bedroom door down, punch holes through walls, and yank chandeleers from their ceiling sockets when pissed off. Not to mention the fact that the father of the owner of the DTC is an attorney and got his bachelor's degree Philosophy and Moral Ethics... maybe we should pose this question to HIM????
Curits: You sly sod, you.... ! Don't forget, I know where you live! LOL! More remarks like that, and you'll be DTC-less after delivery to Kevin.
cai:"Is this forgetful and obviously ditzoid person..."
The DTC was left ON PURPOSE, btw... as a favor... to a "friend."
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 11:58 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
DSS
Hdlouie: Thanks! Thats what I was looking for.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.53 ) at 11:10 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Scott Veirs: You may also want info on the matching wireless transmitter, mdl WAP11, runs $250 for 32 users
http://www.insight.com/web/apps/products/productpresentation.php?product_id=lnk970039
Hdlouie ( 209.179.233.15 ) at 11:02 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
DSS
http://thesatelliteguy.com/rca.html , http://www.4dws.com/ , http://www.consumer-direct.com/products.cfm?cat=DBS , http://www.satellitezone.com/
Just a few Carlos.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.53 ) at 10:47 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
DSS
Carlos: Around here it seems like new DirecTV receivers w dishes and free installations are being included with every oil change. OK, more like $99.
Do you hate shopping at brick & mortar stores or something? Are all NYer's so bummed about the Super Bowl still that all stores are shut down?
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.53 ) at 10:44 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
wireless LAN PC card
Scott Veirs: The one I won is a Linksys mdl WPC11. Others are made by Intel, 3Com & the usual suspects. The deal I found is located here: http://www.insight.com/web/apps/products/productpresentation.php?product_id=lnk970040
For detailed product info go to the Linksys site
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.53 ) at 10:38 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ethics/Law (oxymoron?) 101
cai: LOL!! Loved the "ethics, shmetics" line. 2 out of 3 (bigger with perhaps a quick temper) means it's going back.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 10:30 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
DSS
I guess no one knows where to order a dish and receiver on the internet?
RB ( 199.43.48.21 ) at 10:30 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ultimate TV
I was reading about that new Microsoft product:Ultimate TV. It allows you to recoed one program while watching another one sort of like Tivo and the like. You can also use it with your ISP service (but not AOL). Does anyone have any opinions on Ultimate TV?
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 10:21 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CURTIS -
Could you tell me what brand this wireless LAN card is? I would like to look into it myself.
thanks
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 10:07 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Cool OR dealer that carries Bel and Power Co. stuff
Since I know some of you were interested in BEL's amp and those Power Company power conditioner (and tonic) devices (click on specials):
http://www.corneraudio.com/
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.151 ) at 10:01 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
PSA: Arcam direct sale pricing
ARCAM products available direct and for less...
http://www.aslgroup.com/audiophile/bargain.htm
Joe ( 205.188.198.34 ) at 9:48 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ethics/Law (oxymoron?) 101
cai: Sorry curtis I failed my Ethics exam
Joe ( 205.188.198.34 ) at 9:47 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Cryo
you have mail
Joe ( 205.188.198.34 ) at 9:43 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
To continue this satellite coversation, how do you keep the sat signal from overpowering the antenea? For instance if I combine my antenea and sat in one location. I then run to 4 TVs, 1 of them has dual inputs that onse easy. The other three have only one input. So if I am watching tha sat in the theater room and my wife wants to watch soaps in the bathroom off the antenea, what allowsthe antenea signal to reach the TV without having tha sat signal overpower it?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:41 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Ethics/Law (oxymoron?) 101
CuRTis: Is this forgetful and obviously ditzoid person bigger than you? Does this sod for brains individual own a gun? Is this brainiac maniac prone to violence? If the answer to any of the above is yes, by all means give him back his DTC100 gift wrapped with a $50.00 certificate to Best Buy. Ethics, shmetics, think what would Clinton do. If the answer to any of the above questions is no and this unit has caused you pain, suffering, and angst, due to your ethical quandaries keep it. "May the force be with you". You may need it.
Joe ( 152.163.194.178 ) at 9:34 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Morning all,
Ron H ( 63.61.201.183 ) at 8:10 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
CuRTis: I will see what I can do.
Ron H ( 63.61.201.183 ) at 8:10 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
JBC: Is it going to be the Bryston or Cinepro? Inquiring minds want to know.
RB ( 152.163.197.51 ) at 6:43 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Curtis: Good George W. jokes!
Ron H ( 63.44.126.231 ) at 6:36 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Good Morning all.
Ron H ( 63.44.126.231 ) at 6:36 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Good Morning all.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:19 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Good morning gang...
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.19 ) at 6:02 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
rope lighting
BIG AL: Costco used to sell 18 footers for something like $6. I got one then went back for more - seems dealers wiped out their inventory for good. Makes a good backlight draped over my RP
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.237 ) at 2:19 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Man, this place gets quiet at night nowadays...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.237 ) at 12:41 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Happy Birthday bouncedewd!!!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.237 ) at 12:41 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
BIG AL: Gee... I wonder who's name will be on the forum tomorrow?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:40 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Anybody purchased rope lighting lately? I can get 18' lengths with controller and AC cord for under $100 (not mini). Is that a decent price?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:35 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Wait! That makes seven! No wait! This one makes eight! I'm really on a roll!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:34 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Hooray! Six posts in a row! It's the Late Late Late BIG AL Show!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:33 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Bagman; Message received and noted. One headed your way too.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:30 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
I guess I have to quit going to the "wide forum". I never find out about B-Days till it's too late.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BOUNCEY!!!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:09 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Darian; I sent you an e-mail the day I got yours. My ISP e-mail has been spotty lately though. I'll fire off another.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:07 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Curtis; By law, it's his. By ethics, I don't know, don't have em. If his name starts with a K, and he hangs with a bunch of poor HT enthusiasts in an unproffessional community......keep it at your own risk!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:03 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
cai; Your local Radio Shack has diplexors and multi-switches, powered and not.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.107 ) at 12:02 AM EST Thursday, February 1, 2001
Gasgeek; I'm not scrolling back to read the question, but I believe it was "how many" receivers can you hook up to one dual LNB. I'm not nitpicking, I know you just wanted to find out about the 4 room setup. I just checked this out the other day. The multi-switches can be daisy chained, and there are 8 output, and 16 output multi-switches. However, the maximum amount of receivers, via daisy chained multi-switches, and as long as the last one is powered (AC), is 60.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.12 ) at 11:55 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Ethics/Law (oxymoron?) 101
It's a long time since college, so maybe some of you young farts will remember this.
Is possession really 9/10's of the law? Say for example I had a nice DCT100 sitting in my house that really doesn't belong to me, yet I gifted equipment actually worth as much if not more to the rightfull owner.
What is the right thing to do if I know I have to go out and buy yet another DCT100 anyway?
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.12 ) at 10:33 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Faroudja B stock
Wild Bill: Now you're talking.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 10:28 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite Info
JT & AVB: Thank you for the information. I will take a look at these sites shortly.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.102 ) at 10:27 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Faroudja B stock
CuRTis: I may have a line on a used DVP3000 in the next 2 or 3 weeks. kpd has expressed interest but if he passes I'll make sure you have 1st dibs.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.12 ) at 9:57 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Faroudja B stock
AVB: Agreed. My idea of tremdous is at least 50%. Still expen$ive but a killer product that I couls easily sell for little loss on eBay tomorrow if I came down w/ a case of buyers remorse.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.12 ) at 9:55 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
JT:email coming. You'll be happy
AVB ( 64.41.33.124 ) at 9:52 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Faroudja B stock
CuRTis: The DVP3000 goes for about $15K so even a tremendous discount of half price would be out of reach for most of us.
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 9:44 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite Info
cai: Try these links for diplexers and multiswitches http://www.starkelectronic.com/askalnc.htm http://www.dbs-sales.com/echostar/multiswitch.html http://www.starlink-dss.com/multiswitch.htm http://www.mcrgroup.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/online-store/scstore/c-Satellite_Components.html?L+scstore+wpqy4086ff979297+981863893
JT ( 24.160.99.140 ) at 9:39 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Curtis: Did your buyer just take the laptops, or all of the computer equipment? I still may have some interest in desktops. Let me know.
AVB ( 64.41.33.124 ) at 9:37 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite Info
cai: Find any internet sat supplier like www.123-video.com, http://www.derossi.com/hometech/video/dssmulti.html, www.smarthome.com or a hundred others and they should have all you need. A diplexor can run from $5 to $20 each depending on the brand and if it is an indoor or outdoor one. A good powered multiswitch will be $80+ while a non-powered one can be found for $30. All a diplexer does is combine the DSS and OTA (or cable) inputs on to one wire. At the receiver end you use another diplexer to split the signals back out. With a dual LNB set up and a 3 input multiswitch you would only need diplexers at the receiver end.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.204 ) at 9:10 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Faroudja B stock
News to me. Faroudja regularly sells B stock model DVP3000/3000U series ultra scalers at "tremendous discount"
This is the one that will do everything my FP is capable of & I want my clients to have, period.
http://www.faroudja.com/products/dvp.html
I'll hear about pricing & availability tomorrow. Stay tuned.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.204 ) at 8:14 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
He's such an easy target...
George W. was at an open question press conference when a reporter asked him what his position on Lesbian Marriages was.
"I will give you a straight answer on that if you could please remind me where Lesbia is."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Einstien, Picasso & George W. die and go to see St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. Einstien wants to get in. St/Peter says "You must prove to me that you're the real Albert Einstien before I can allow you in"
Albert pulls out a chalkboard and runs through every detail of every theory he has ever worked on. Clearly impressed, St. Peter allows him into heaven.
Picasso says "I would also like to get into heaven. I have created great beauty on earth."
St/ Peter agrees Pablo Picasso was indeed a great artist, yet required proof. Picasso produces a large chalkboard and mony colored chalks. He whips up a masterpeace. St. Peter lets him in right away.
"What about me, I'm George W. Bush"
"You must also prove to me that you're who you claim to be, just as you saw Einstien show his brilliant science work and Picasso created perhaps his best work of art ever.
George replies "OK that seems fair enough I suppose. Before I do may I ask you a question St. Peter? Who are Albert Einstien and Pablo Picasso?"
"Come right on in George!"
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 8:04 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Happy birthday hkaplan13! Why don't you post and come out of hiding?
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.204 ) at 7:56 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Darian: Yes but not terribly soon. One outfit paid much more than pal prices x 128 units, Couldn't hold anything back as my client had the total count. More coming in soon however. You guys WILL get 1st pick.
Joe ( 205.188.195.39 ) at 7:55 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Someone was asking about Sonys 10ht
CinemaSource:
Sony is beginning a special promotion on their highly regarded VPL-VW10HT
LCD projector. This piece has a retail of $7,990 with CinemaSource selling
them for $5,995. The promotion starts February 1st and ends March 31st.
During that time CinemaSource will be selling the 10HT projectors for
$5,300 and the customer will get a $300 rebate. This brings the net price
of a VPL-VW10HT to just $5,000, a full $1,000 off the price we have been
offering for close to a year!
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.204 ) at 7:54 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
DTC100 source?
AVB: Sorry - I misread your FS post
"I have an RCA DRD515 Dobly Digital DSS receiver 10 months old with OBM but no card that was replced by a
DTC100 $250.00 delivered."
Now I get (duh) that's the price for your RCA.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:43 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite Info
AVB: Where can one buy the diplexers? Do you know any model numbers? Is there a web site that has pictures of them and how they operate? How much do they cost? Thanks.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 7:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Darian: I think the point was that if the guy already has a standard DirecTV dish with dual LNB's, he doesn't need to go out and buy the oval dish. This is especially true if he doesn't even have an HDTV. Now, if he wants international programming (Para Todos) then he'd need the oval dish for that. But just to have four receivers hooked up, all he needs is a standard dual LNB dish. (and all the other crap -- splitters, diplexers, etc.)
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Umm excuse me! Are you guys recommending not using a HD ready thing in this day and age??? SHAME SHAME!!!
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.13 ) at 6:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
BIG AL: E- mail heading your way.
JBC: Got your phone # and will save it in case I need your help. Thanks so much.
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 6:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite info
Gasgeek: I had the exact setup that AVB described in my last house. He is exactly right. You don't need a plus dish, just a standard dual LNB. Also, I would recommend getting a powered multiswitch if any of the RG6 runs are very long. They work much better than the ones you can buy at Best Buy, etc.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.162 ) at 6:14 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Joke Alert
A barber gave a haircut to a priest one day. The priest tried to pay for the haircut but the barber refused saying, "I cannot accept money from you, for you are a good man - you do God's work." The next morning the barber found a dozen bibles at the door to his shop.
A policeman came to the barber for a haircut, and again the barber refused payment saying, "I cannot accept money from you, for you are a good man - you protect the public." The next morning the barber found a dozen doughnuts at the door to his shop.
A lawyer came to the barber for a haircut, and again the barber refused payment saying, "I cannot accept money from you, for you are a good man - you serve the justice system." The next morning the barber found a dozen more lawyers waiting for a haircut.
--
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:03 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Speaking of Dreamcast...
RickMTB: Very true. However all that means to me is that DC's will start selling CHEAP on the used market, along w/ the games.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.26 ) at 5:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Speaking of Dreamcast...
Perhaps old news here, but Sega is pulling out of the console market and concentrating on SW...
AVB ( 64.41.32.128 ) at 5:46 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite Info
Gasgeek: You need a dual LNB dish, a 3 input 4 output multiswitch (one for each LNB and one for OTA or cable input) 4 diplexers, and 4 DSS receivers to cover 4 rooms so that every room can choose their own programming. That's it.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:44 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Curtis: Will I ever get a Lap top?
AVB ( 64.41.32.128 ) at 5:41 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
DTC100 source?
CuRTis: It wasn't $250, it was $320 used. Private sale in the Baltimore area.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 5:09 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: So you have Gran Tourismo for the Dreamcast, huh? SWEET! Okay, when I come down next time try to get B. to come over too... I wanna play that game!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 5:07 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: You know I saw that comming a MILE away (or 90 miles as the case may be...) LOL!
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.165 ) at 5:05 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Kieran: What G500?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 5:04 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
Wild Bill: I will add in CuRTis' defense that the Dell he's considering using is an Optiplex tower, not a Dimension. Optiplex is their corporate line of tower/workstations, and admitedly more stable than their Dimension mobo's. However, they are still proprietary mobo's and cases, not standard ATX, so you're stuck in the mud if you ever want to upgrade. (as if that's not going to happen!)
CuRTis: Given that, however, I still say that going with a standard ATX case with a big P/S and an Abit or Asus mobo is the way to go. A good case and mobo will probably run in the range of $225 to $300. (~$150 for mobo, and however much you want to spend on the case... ) Not much when you consider the overall picture. IMHO.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 4:57 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
CuRTis:Wild Bill wrote:
CuRTis: If you want to build an HTPC use an ABIT or ASUS motherboard only and certainly NOTHING from Dell. An HTPC needs a very good, very stable motherboard. ASUS and ABIT deliver these quelities plus sterling performance in spades.
Do I have to say it???? I hate to say it, but...
I'll give you one guess at what two mobo's I'm considering for the desktop I want to build to go with that G500 monitor...
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 4:50 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
DSS
Where's the best place to buy a Sat. on the internet? I need to replace the one from my old apartment. It was damaged during a storm.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.11 ) at 4:49 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
CuRTis: Remeber, Faroudja has since come out with the 3000, 5000 and the NR is coming soon. That makes the 2200 a bit old technology wise.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.11 ) at 4:47 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
CuRTis: If you want to build an HTPC use an ABIT or ASUS motherboard only and certainly NOTHING from Dell. An HTPC needs a very good, very stable motherboard. ASUS and ABIT deliver these quelities plus sterling performance in spades.
Wild Bill ( 63.38.135.11 ) at 4:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
CuRTis: kpd has a 2200 and likes it a lot but he *lusts* after a 3000.
Drop him an e-mail about the 2200 or send me an e-mail and I'll give you his numbers for direct contact. He'll give you the straight scoop. BTW, if that is Jean W's 2200 for $4000 I personally think it may be just a wee bit overpriced but that is MHO. KPD may think the price is OK.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.165 ) at 4:40 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Gasgeek:I hear that!
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.165 ) at 4:40 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
Joe: Way ahead of you. Kieran doesn't like the Dell Optiplex PIII 733MHz motherboards for this application. I think it would work fine with 256 MB of RAM
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 4:40 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Cai: My whole life is an information overload.
Joe ( 64.12.102.168 ) at 4:31 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
CuRTis: With all that computer gear laying around, why not build yourself a HTPC?
Joe ( 64.12.102.168 ) at 4:28 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
I was at Sams Warehouse today. I picked up X-Men for $18.83, The Patriot for $17.73 & Gladiator for $19.99. I was surprised they had these titles for the price. I can see Sams becoming one of my stops for DVDs.
CuRTis ( 64.161.26.181 ) at 4:21 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
Kieran:No, it's FS online by a non-dealer. List on them (identical model & firmware) is $8K.
So nobody has a single word to say about this particular Faroudja model?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 4:19 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
CuRTis: Is that dealer offering you the Faroudja 2200, the same one offering you the used Stewart Screen? Tell him I want my $5 back for the cracked THX WOW disk! (just kidding... I'd look at as getting F.Gump for $10, and the cracked wow disc for free!)
What is li$t price on the Faroudja 2200?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 3:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Gasgeek: I do not know about you, but I am more confused than ever. Do I sense an information overload on your part.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 3:05 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Thank you gentleman. I appreciate all the info.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:55 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Custom Install 202
Signal Modulators... Take the Video and audio outs of a device like a DVD or DSS. Feed it to the modulator. The modulator then turns the output into a RF CHANNEL. Which can be injected into your cable or off air wiring.
One client has 4 TVs and 2 people in the ouse. The have Cable and 2 sat receivers. Cable is channels 02-99. There are no cable channels between 60 and 75. The modulators are attached to the DSS receviers. Channel 62 is labled HIS and 65 is HERS. Now you can go to any tv in the house and watch cable using the TVs tuner. If MR Long is at a TV and wants to watch Sat... he selects channel 62 on the TVs tuner. Then he presses DSS 1 on the remote. The output of the DSS will be sent to that TV on that channel. As far as the receiver is concerned it is being directly displayed on a monitor. The remotes are all RF so this works for any set in the house.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Geek: One DSS Plus Antenna. (Oval shaped dish with 2 dual LNBS on it) There is a diplexer on the back of the unit from RCA. You feed the outputs from the LNBs into the diplexer. The Diplever has 4 outputs. Connect the four outputs to 4 receivers. PAy Direct TV $15 extra dollars a month over the program packages for additional receiver access fees.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 2:14 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Gasgeek: A single multiswitch will give you the 4 outputs you want. The one included on the RCA Plus dish (oval that picks up 2 birds for HD) comes standard with 4 outputs. You'll need 4 receivers of course to watch independant channels.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 2:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
No wonder I'm divorced...
my pretzel logic says that I'm not spending money, I'm simply saving more with each purchase.
Case in point; there's a Faroudja DVP-2200 with the latest firmware FS at around 1/2 of list. This is pretty much the world's most perfect iScan Pro with some advantages including HD in (pass-through), 10 bit DAC's, and the ability to program all the aspect ratios I'll ever need. This means that I won't have to mess with the FP memory settings at all - simply leave it in one mode at all times & perform all switching from the Faroudja.
Besides, it looks cool and includes rackmount dag ears. Details here
http://www.faroudja.com/products/dvp.dvp2000.html
What I REALLY want of course is their top-line scaler to really nail the FP's sweet spot, somewhere around 72KHz. No way I'm paying anywhere near $20k for one however
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:10 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Darian: Let's just say for the heck of it, that I have 4 tv's in 4 separate rooms, and I want to watch 4 different channels. No cable or antennae back up. DirectTV only. What is the minimum amount of dishes, receivers, etc. that I need.
I'm a little confused by your earlier post as I have no experience with satellites at all. Single modulate a DSS receiver for each member? Select their DSS receiver via the remote?
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 2:05 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Dads and Games
Kieran: Yep, we have that title and it is VGA enhanced - looks spectacular. We can play it on the Shampoo and FP too!
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 2:03 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Kieran: and who's house you walked through with the gameroom? Lucky guess!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:01 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: You-know-who, who? meaning the 540i drving, polo playing, workaholic you showed me pictures of?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:00 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
What I was saying about the DISH is for seperate receivers for each set so you may watch different things on all sets at one time. Usually you just singla modulate a DSS receiver for each house hold member. Then the member can go to any TV. Slect his/her channel from the TV. Then select there DSS receiver via the remote... DSS 1, DSS 2, etc. Most people don't really need the ability to watch more than 2 sat channels at a time. Most of our installs that brnach out to 5 or more TVs only use 2 DSS receivers.
Depends on ...
How many TVs?
How many people in house?
How many things are they ever going to watch at once?
Wether or not they have cable or antenna as a back up for the central distribution.
Most common is cable tv to central box. 2 or 3 modulated sat receivers into central box. Distribution is all straight runs out to monitors or TVs where ever.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 1:59 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: Hmmm... clicked my name maybe? Here at work the cookie is still set for my name to link to my homepage. Were you trying to email me?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 1:57 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Dads and Games
CuRTis: Next time I'm over at your place we really need to hook up the Dreamcast and have some game time with B. I'm sure he'll still kick my ass, but I might be able to hang a LITTLE bit... wasn't THAT long ago, that I was a video game nut myself.
BTW, have you tried the game called Gran Tourismo? I don't know if it's available on D.C. I've only seen it on Playstation. This is a game that you and I would enjoy. B. would like it too, and probably kick out butts as well. It's one of the more popular car racing games out right now. Pick your exotic road car, and race all over famous cities... You can really get into it too, making money along the way so you can buy better cars as you go, etc. One of the coolest features is the replay of your race after it's done. I was at a friend's house last night who was playing it and the replay afterwards looked like the chase scene in Ronin! (well almost)
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 1:50 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Kieran: How on earth did I get to your homepage on GeoCities? FYI that's where you-know-made her 1st millions at the ripe old age of 31.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Depending on the diplexer I think you can do like 4 of of one DSS plus Dish. Dish Netowrks has some odd way to get 10 receivers on one dish.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:43 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite Info
Gasgeek: You can branch out and attach as many receivers as you want. However, if you have two receivers on one LNB and three receivers on the other LNB. Two of your TVs in one branch will have to watch the same program and three of the TVs in the other branch will have to watch the same program. Not all receivers will be having separate program tuning capability; for that you do need five LNBs (2 + 3=5 total receivers). Any one of the receivers, in the example above, will be able to tune-in programs for its branch. Also, you have to pay a monthly fee, about $5.00 for each additional receiver, after the first one.
I do not know if I have answered your questions, but maybe someone else can provide you with more information.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 1:37 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Dads and Games
cai: LOL! Yep that sounds all too familiar. "Dad, why don't you just give up?" Has been heard many times.
To get even I invite them onto a tennis court or polo field.
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 1:34 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Wireless LAN costs
Kieran: I managed to forget to answer your ? recently about the www.airwave.com bitchin' fast LAN stuff.
The card itself is available for $132.99 from a supplier of mine. He'll likely do a quantity discount for us as he only has 135 of these currently in stock, yet the margins are likely paper thin as retail is $179. Info here:http://www.insight.com/web/apps/products/productpresentation.php?product_id=lnk970040
The Airwave service is free for the 1st 90 days, $9.95@mo after. Well worth it in my case at least. You can also use these cards in any desktop to run a 11 MB/second wireless LAN. A pal has his DSL setup this way and it works perfectly within about a 1 1/2 block radius. The 300 foot quoted range is very conservative. A client has all of their developers using notebooks with these cards. Very cool because they can freely move anywhere they want without the Ethernet wire pains. My client didn't have to install the rats nest either.
For the moment AirWave is concentrating their POPs to where the local digerati hang out (bookstores, coffee house, eateries, micro breweries, etc.) 300 additional POPs are being activated in the next few weeks locally (it's almost all in SF and Silicon Valley). They'll branch out to airports and the farther-flung places if they think it's a profitable thing to do. If I were you I would start telling everyone you work with up there and start creating demand.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 1:31 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Dads and Games
CuRTis: Tell me about games and children. My ten year old tried to get me to play with him on some high speed car chase game he has. I was nailed by the cops after the second turn. He goes on forever.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:30 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Satellite Info
Good Morning Everyone: I have a question concerning the number of satellite receivers that can be attached to one dual LNB dish. One friend of mine was told by some salesgeeks at asuperstore that only two receivers per dish. He even smart assed said, "It's called dual LNB, dual means two, two receivers." My friend had four rooms, didn't want the added cost and went with cable.
I asked someone else, and they said that at least four separate, individual receivers could be hooked up. My boss wants to put in DirectTV and will need four independent receivers, I think from what he indicated that they are telling him the same thing trying to sell more systems.
What's the real answer Oh HTOC wizards?
CuRTis ( 64.161.27.165 ) at 1:21 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Kieran: I'll pass the list on to my son, thanks - he's the gamer in the household. Dad sucks at everything!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Curtis: This might interest you... well really your son...
http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002620.html
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.229 ) at 12:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Happy Birthday, hkaplan 131...whoever you are .
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 12:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
DTC100 source?
AVB: I don't suppose you feel like sharing your source for where you picked up your DTC100 for $250 delivered, would you?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:44 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Price increase on amps... EAD PowerMaster 2000s went from $5000 to $7250 in a matter of months. Now that one of the first times a piece of electronics appertiated after you turned it on. No changes in the units... just charging more for them.
Wild Bill ( 152.163.194.197 ) at 11:17 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Using all the real estate
CuRTis: The big knock on the high gain screens (other than hotspotting, i.e. a narrow viewing angle) is colorshift. Put up a white field or a gray image with a high gain screen and you'll see a bluish tint to one side of the screen and a pinkish tint to the other. Many people don't notice this but once it is noticed it becomes very annoying. YMMV.
JBC ( 207.164.221.241 ) at 10:46 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
AVB: My only point was that part of the upgrade cost being so high is related to the fact that the prices have gone up. Must be nice to be in a business with ever increasing margins.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 10:36 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Using all the real estate
AVB: 2.5 & 2.8 eh? I thought the knock on them was hot spotting, no?
AVB ( 64.41.32.223 ) at 10:34 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Cinepro follows Lexicon
JBC: Basic economics, supply and demand. Look at some of the other amps out there. Pass went up 15% when they did their last upgrade.
AVB ( 64.41.32.223 ) at 10:29 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Using all the real estate
CuRTis: The screen info was for you but it was Kieran that couldn't find it.
If your manual says that 102" wide is the limit then I would stick to that. Pushing out another 11" may cause uncorrectable geometry problems. Given that I would say a 96"x54" would be the best bet to find. I think screen gain is a matter of choice. I, myself, don't believe the 1.3 to 1.5 limit as there are other factors involved not the least of which is light control. I installed a 2.8 gain with the Ehome 8501LC and it is a great picture. I have a 2.5 gain screen and I haven't seen anything that would cause me to change. When you get to the $2K range or more for a screen it comes down to preference. Like amps, some may have the features that you feel are more important then others.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 10:28 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Think I found a screen
Kieran: Remember the $100K HT room I couldn't tear you away from? The screen was a tensionized Stewart top-end motorized job in a custom white cabinet. The store is tearing the room down to replace it with a REALLY high-end HT. The owner owes me a favor, so I have asked him to make me a great deal on that particular screen. The last ultra Stewart he offered me (customer cancelled after it came into the store) was $1,200 for a $3,500 retail, new in box model. Since this is used I expect an even better deal.
Retail? We don't need no stinkin' retail
Stay tuned...
JBC ( 207.164.221.98 ) at 10:09 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Cinepro follows Lexicon
AVB: True enough but... look at the price increases that Cinepro is putting through. The 3k6 is up 18%, the 3k6se is up 15%.
JBC ( 207.164.221.98 ) at 10:06 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Joe: Peterborough is 90 minutes from Toronto
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 9:59 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Wild Bill: You beat me to it - great minds think alike.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 9:58 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Using all the real estate
My wall measures 92" tall x 144" wide. There doesn't have to be any furniture in the way at all. Using this screen covers all but 12" each of the 4 edges of the wall. I have a 16:9 wall!
The unknown factor is how far the throw distance should be. The FP installation manual only suggests going up to 102" wide (4:3 & 16:9)with my lenses. Other lenses will do up to 240" wide (!). Am I pushing my luck by asking the FP to display an 11" wider image?
My gut tells me to pass on this screen for 2 reasons.
1) I prefer a dropdown so that it's out of sight
2) I would be operating beyond the max suggested picture size.
Sorry for rambling y'all. I'm mostly thinking out loud. I'll take this project over to the FP geeks on avs.
So who makes the best projection screens? What gain should I go for? Current thinking is Stewart and 1.3
Wild Bill ( 152.163.194.197 ) at 9:44 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: After seeing how Don Stewart treats his customers and beta testers there is only one screen brand I can recommend...Stewart Filmscreens. Budget about $1000 for a 92" X 52" 16:9 Fixed Videomatte 1.3 gain. It's a great choice. Da-Lite is the screen of choice for those on a budget. The seller has birds flying between his ears if he is trying to pass the Da-Lite off as the equivalent of Stewart.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 9:25 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
The frame is the Imager (seller claims it's the exact same product as Stewart's top-end stuff. The screen material is:
Da-Mat
A smooth, white, vinyl surface that provides an exceptionally wide angle of view with no loss of resolution. It evenly distributes light over a wide viewing area while colors remain bright and life-like, with no shifts in hue. This material is designed to be used with projection where ambient light is controllable.
Gain: 1.0 Viewing angle: 50°
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 9:15 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Monster Da-Lite fixed screen
Rats, the seller will only discount 25%, but it is brand new in box. Opinions please?
http://www.dalite.com/Home-theater/products/view_product.php?product_id=13
http://www.dalite.com/products/catalog.php?action=details&product_id=97
http://www.dalite.com/products/specs.php?action=detail&spec_id=9
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 9:10 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
So what screen size should I get?
Wild Bill: I was hoping you would toss in your $.02 worth. Much appreciated. 1080p on a 102" wide screen? Like going to heaven. 2k x 2k sounded like the marketing boys were stretching things just a bit to justify the price of entry.
Ceiling mount it is then. I have an open beam ceiling with a hefty beam running right where I need it to be (centerline of the screen wall). It's 11 feet from the floor.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.81 ) at 8:53 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
So what screen size should I get/presets.
AVB: Tks for the info. The liquid cooling spec is right off the spec sheet "CRT's -Proprietary (Sony OEM) liquid-cooled/coupled "
I can see I'll be busy just setting up the aspect ratio presets. Did you meant to direct that new Dalite screen PSA to Kieran or to me? Talk about huge! 116" wide x 65" tall = 133" diagonal.
Joe ( 64.12.105.172 ) at 8:42 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Peterbrough
How far is that from Toronto an hour?
Joe ( 64.12.105.172 ) at 8:35 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Good Morning all
AVB ( 64.41.32.233 ) at 8:23 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Cinepro follows Lexicon
JBC: Jeez, I only paid a little more for my 2K5II then they are asking for the upgrade to the 2K6III!
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 8:19 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Not so super bowl?
CuRTis: Thanks for the kind words. We shall return.
Wild Bill ( 205.188.200.174 ) at 7:44 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
So what screen size should I get?
Curits: Two more points that I forgot to add. If at all possible you should ceiling mount the projector. 1) you have kids and 2) you can get away with a lower gain screen and you'll have a better image. Remember, a floor mounted projector will result in light that is reflected up and over the viewer and will light the ceiling up. A ceiling mounted projector will reflect the light back a t the viewing position. BTW, the 2000 X 2000 thing? It would look really, really fuzzy if you displayed the resolution.
Wild Bill ( 205.188.200.174 ) at 7:39 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
So what screen size should I get?
CuRTis: Don't think for one second that your projector is capable of 2000 X 2000 resolution. Not even close! Your projector has a sufficient horizontal scan rate and refresh rate that it will DISPLAY 2000 X 2000. It won't even come close to resolving it. You can push 1920 X 1080 through it and it will look awe inspiring but there is debate even among the experts whether a 9" CRT projector will fully resolve 1080p. It certainly won't out of the box. You'll have to have someone that really knows the projector do a complete and thorough setup to approach its' capabilities. 2000 X 2000? Not in our lifetime.
JBC ( 207.164.221.60 ) at 7:36 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Cinepro follows Lexicon
AVB, Others: Here is a positive point about Cinepro... go to their website and note the fair and generous upgrade program they are putting in place!
Wild Bill ( 205.188.200.174 ) at 7:34 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
So what screen size should I get?
CuRTis: There's no downside to the 102" wide screen. It's a bit large for CRT but your projector should be able to handle it without having to be overdriven. I'm not sure what Kieran was trying to get at (LOL) but it all comes down to constant HEIGHT if you want a 16:9 screen vs. constant WIDTH if you want a 4:3 screen. Simply divide the width by 1.7778 and you'll get the proper height for 16:9. So, 102" divided by 1.7778 will give you the correct height for a 16:9 screen. Just make sure you get a quality screen. You should NOT go bargain hunting for the screen. Loosen that wallet and get a good screen. If you don't you'll simply be replacing it and you will spend more on the screen in the end.
AVB ( 64.41.32.233 ) at 7:32 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
So what screen size should I get/presets.
CuRTis: 92-96" wide at 52-54" tall seems to be the most popular size. Anything larger will depend on ceiling height. For 8' ceilings a 52" screen with frame will be about 30" off the floor and hang (or mount) 12" from the ceiling. Going bigger means that the image will keep getting lower and at some point will get in the way of furniture, and even your feet on a footstool. If you have higher ceilings then you have to look at seating distance to use a wider screen. Again, for a 92" screen I find that 12' min distance works well. The ROT is 1.5 times width so a 120" screen is at least 15' if not more to prevent the ping pong effect.
The reason for multiple memories is for different inputs. Almost every input I use is slightly different. I have membories for DVD 4:3, 1.85, 2.35, anamorphic 1.85, amamorphic 2.35, HDTV, Normal broadcast, LD 4:3, LD 1.85, LD 2.35, and SVHS. Plus, you may want to have all these setups at different internal frequencies to get the best image.
Just as a thought, a 92" screen will display an 81" diagional 4:3 image.
AVB ( 64.41.32.233 ) at 7:14 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Fonts
Scott "popcorn": I have no idea why that font is being used. Left over from the previous admin perhaps?
AVB ( 64.41.32.233 ) at 7:09 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Ceiling or table mount?
CuRTis: I don't know if your Ampro is Liquid Cooled (which I doubt) or Liquid Coupled (more likely). Neither one has anything to do with the fans or the noise they produce.
AVB ( 64.41.32.233 ) at 7:08 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Screen
Kieran: Look here http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002634.html
Ron H ( 63.26.171.36 ) at 6:41 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Good morning all.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.5 ) at 6:30 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Good morning all.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:03 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Good morning one and all...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 1:47 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: Just curious... it seemed to me (maybe just my imagination) that you were ignoring my posts... even the post about ceiling mounting...
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 1:43 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Scott "popcorn": Not in the least man, why are you even asking? Then again I don't see "Pop's Forum" up there
You'll recall that this place was my idea way back when in the 1st place, so it really didn't bother me. It's just that a big client logged on today and thought it looked unprofessional. No big deal. If he can't deal with my ramblings there are plenty of other clients out there.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 1:36 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: Are you mad at me? 
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 1:35 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Poor grammar...
Kieran: I planted a huge clue in the title. In fact I'm aghast!
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 1:30 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Kieran: "Grammer" was intentional. The def. is your Mothers' Mother
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 1:21 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
So what screen size should I get?
Not that bigger is always better. However in the case of a 9" CRT FP puting out plenty of light at high scan rates fed mostly HD 1080i signals (and capable of 2K x 2K) resolution, I want the largest image that will fit.
This finally gets to my point: what's the downside of getting a 102" wide 16:9 screen vs. going down to the 62" minimum? Consider that a 35MM positive is projected onto enormous screens at movie theaters and the resulting image still looks pretty good. My photo profs are in my head saying "never overblow an image or you'll introduce grain/ trashing your beautiful picture".
In this case the best source material is the reverse of GIGO; I'll call it GSI/GSO (great stuff in/ great stuff out).
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 1:18 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Fernando BYork, and AVB: I have a strange question... Why are we using "Bradley Hand ITC" fonts for the headings of the pages? I ask because it's not a standard Windows font (just copied all the Win98 fonts to BeOS), and found it not there... So, I tried a search of the web... Apparently it's in a font set that is $39... Hmmmm. Anyway, I was just curious.
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 1:17 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Poor grammar...
Means it's getting too late. I've been up far too late the last few nights. 10 more minutes and I'm outta here! (just have to finish installing some schtuff.)
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 1:15 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
CuRTis: HA! I totally missed the "he's is" thing first time through... but "grammer" (sic) screamed out to me! Go figure.
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 1:13 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Agast!
Alright, you almost had me until you spelled "grammar" incorrectly! Mom would never make that mistake! (Well, that and your IP addy...)
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 1:02 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
ROTFL!!!!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 1:01 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Back to normal! (well, a semblance thereof anyway)
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 12:59 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
he's is - nice going dumbass!
Kieran's Mom ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 12:57 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Agast!
Greetings from sunny Mexico. Someone mentioned that my son spends far too much time here, is this in fact true?
Wait ... I see that rather than going out and finding a nice young woman to FINALLY settle down with, he's is in fact doing his best to show off his math skills to perfect strangers!
Proper English and grammer never were his strong suit
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 12:52 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Kieran: What's mom's e-mail address?
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 12:47 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Ugh... major grammar faux pas... I said, If you keep the width constant, than your answer is 62" wide! If the height stayes constant, than the answer is...
It should read:
"If you keep the width constant, then your answer is 62" wide! If the height stays constant, then the answer is..."
That's a big pet peve of mine when people mis-use THEN and THAN. (Almost as bad as "there," "they're" and "their".) Not to mention my spelling of "stays". Ugh! Good thing my mother the English teacher doesn't read this!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 12:36 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
Kieran: Don't ask me, it's not my (nearly) free CRT FP
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 12:36 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
woops... didn't finish that last sentance... I should read:
If you keep the width constant and scale the height, then for a 62" width you get a height of 46.5" for 4:3, and a height of 34+7/8" for a 16:9 screen.
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 12:35 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
Scott "popcorn": That's what I thought, but then why would you need to scale the numbers? His manual said 62" wide for 4:3, scale this number for 16:9. If you keep the width constant, than your answer is 62" wide! If the height stayes constant, than the answer is
(16/9)*((3/4)*62)=82+2/3".
If you keep the width constant and scale the height, then for a 62" width you get a height of 46.5" for 4:3, and a height of 34+7/8".
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:26 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Curtis: I use the VCR to time shift channels that i don't have East and West of. Some weeks I have to go to Volleyball on Wensday nights. This takes me away from 7 Days and Voyager. I have to record them so i can watch them later. The pic quality is far below what I am used to seeing... especially when compared to the jaw dropper that my EAD TheaterVision spits out.
My thinking was this. For the Sampo I intended to use the iScan Pro for all the Sd Sources. DVD Interlaced, DBS SD, and VHS as a tuner/time shifter. All I would need to do is flip the grey bar switch from time to time. Input selection made perfect sence. The thing is.. the manual mentions specifically passing the VCR into the iScan.
With the Plus I used to own... I had the VHS hooked directly to the HS10. DVD and Sat were soubled by the iScan and the picture bested the DRC easily. When I wanted to watch VHS there was a Macro to select the audio and flip the Sony's inputs so there was not need to flip switches. My DiSH 6000 always outputs something to the SD outs if in SD mode. Turning it off does not stop the signal. There fore the iScan would not cycle past the DiSH to the VCR on 3. Piority was set to 2 so I only needed to flip on the DVD player.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 12:24 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
Kieran: My guess would be teh width stays the same (duh)
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 12:23 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
CuRTis: Scale in what way? Does he mean that the height will remain constant and the width will increase, or keep the width constand and the height will decrease? Either way, it's no guess at the forumla. Simple Pythagorean geometry. (or trig if you prefer)
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 12:18 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
More iScan Woes... Curtis... Talk to Iscan guy.
Darian: Yes something's amiss. I forwarded your entire message to my contact. He's one of the founding engineers of DVDO and likes to solve problems. Let's see what develops.
One dumb ? pls? Why would you even want to watch a VHS tape? Even my best DVD's feel like I lost my glasses after heavy doses of HD.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 12:14 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
Kieran: LOL! You're just jealous. Points well taken. Time to think out of the box. Don't think about using the FP on the LR wall at all - rather, turn 180 degrees into the mostly unused bigger dining roon accross from where the TW65 now sits.
The DR (screen) wall is 14" taller, and more importantly where the FP would mount on the ceiling is at least 3 feet higher. Now all I need is to replace the sofa with swiveling HT chairs so by day you can watch the Shampoo (due in tomorrow!!) by day, then turn 180 for the huge screen by night.
This works perfectly with one huge audio problem. My fronts & rears must swap positions. Way ahead of you. My dealer will sell me matching Ref Actives at his cost. All I need is 3 of these pups and a switcher. Dealer has that too for $50. It's going to be perfect & something no wife would ever allow!
What screen size is my next decision. My lenses are optimized for between 67" wide to 102" wide, based upon 4:3. The manual says for 16:9 I must scale these measurements. Anyone care to guess the folmula for arriving at this?
What the hell an I going do do with 50 aspect ratio presets?
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 12:13 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
Kieran: LOL! You're just jealous. Points well taken. Time to think out of the box. Don't think about using the FP on the LR wall at all - rather, turn 180 degrees into the mostly unused bigger dining roon accross from where the TW65 now sits.
The DR (screen) wall is 14" taller, and more importantly where the FP would mount on the ceiling is at least 3 feet higher. Now all I need is to replace the sofa with swiveling HT chairs so by day you can watch the Shampoo (due in tomorrow!!) by day, then turn 180 for the huge screen by night.
This works perfectly with one huge audio problem. My fronts & rears must swap positions. Way ahead of you. My dealer will sell me matching Ref Actives at his cost. All I need is 3 of these pups and a switcher. Dealer has that too for $50. It's going to be perfect & something no wife would ever allow!
What screen size is my next decision. My lenses are optimized for between 67" wide to 102" wide, based upon 4:3. The manual says for 16:9 I must scale these measurements. Anyone care to guess the folmula for arriving at this?
What the hell an I going do do with 50 aspect ratio presets?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 12:06 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
Curtis: I might be crazy, but if it were me, and I had a (nearly) free CRT FP, I'd rip out the ceiling and rebuild the ceiling to accomodate the FP... namely, have a lowered celing from the front of the FP back, and have a contoured or high ceiling in front of the FP... maybe even have the drop-down in an arc... With all the money you saved on the FP, you should have no problem redoing the ceiling.
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 12:03 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
Ceiling or table mount?
CuRTis: It's hard to say w/o knowing how much heat the pcb and ic's dissapate, but I'd bet it's a lot. Unless you've got HUGE heat sinks w/ lots of ventilation, you've got to have a fan. Unless of course they don't have any really hot IC's on their board.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.20 ) at 12:01 AM EST Wednesday, January 31, 2001
New forum name
CuRTis: Hehehe... you KNOW you like it! It'll come down in about an hour... (does that mean the SGI ships tomorrow? )
On another note, it sounds like your HT is going to need a Pronto pronto... (pun intended)... or maybe you'll get the first color one off the line..
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:55 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Anytime Big Al! Whats up with the power stuff on your end. Didn't hear from you.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 11:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Ceiling or table mount?
AVB: Good point. I'll fire it up with all audio off and see how loud the fans are. Do the liquid cooled/coupled lens spec mean the need for less fans? Or would you expect the need to move lots of air for the circuit boards?
Besides, ceiling mounts simply look so much cooler. Decisions, decisions.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
More iScan Woes... Curtis... Talk to Iscan guy.
The problem is all about the iScan.
Played back the tape direct to Sampo and Sony 61HS10. No dropouts. Switched over to a prerecorded tape. Jerry Maguire
Played back tape with the iScan in RGB mode connected to the Sampo via VGA cable. When the tape is playing... there is no signal on the screen. If I stop the tape it passes the sat signal to the iScan witch the iScan does output to the Sampo just fine. Hit play and the pic disappears.
Played back the tape hooked to the 61HS10 in squeeze mode for the set and grey bar (Used a break out cable). No dropouts but obvious distortions in the picture. Looked like someone wrinkeled the screenin the top 1/2 and most evident in the top right. There was also a rainbow in the shape of the Silicon Image logo at the bottom of the screen outside the picture. Only visable while tape was playing. Hit stop and Sat looked fine.
Played back the tape through breakout cable to Sampo component. Picture flashes and makes these interesting trapazoid effect. The picture is normal width at the bottom of the screen. The top of the screen drops down to 3/4 of the way up and things look like the Star Wars story. The rippels and flashes between this effect and the full screen. Sometimes you get both effects at once. Then suddenly it will appear normal for about 5 seconds. Then it goes back to this. Hit stop on the VCR and the Sat looks fine.
Something is amiss.
It also seems that DiSH horizontally shifts its picture over to the right. All channels from dish have this black line on the left side of the picture. In grey bar mode it is most noticable. With the Sampo I can shift the picture over in full mode to put the black off the screen. In gray bar mode there is nothing I can do.you get
Gray-black stripe-picture-Gray.
I was thinking that the iScan would be the perfect compliment to the Sampo for SD sources. I think I may have been misteken.
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 11:53 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Screen
AVB: Where's the ads section of avs? I'm at www.avsforum.com I don't see the link.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.70 ) at 11:52 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
FINALLY mounted my transducers! TO MY FLOOR! wise guys! Wish I would've taken the time ages ago. Since I'm back up to 300 watts apiece, these things ROCK once again. The VMPS shakes the floor, and pressurizes the room, but the TTs shake the furniture! I put in the depth charge scene from U-571, and I thought I'd have to BlueTac down my beer glass. Thanks Darian for the Clarkes! Thanks AVB for the SAE power!
Kieran ( 172.172.204.166 ) at 11:41 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Woe is me, I got a (nearly) free CRT FP, and I don't know how to mount it... :(
CuRTis: I don't know... I'd lean towards the ceiling mount, if it were me. Your room is small-ish as it is. That projector is a MAMOTH. Are you sure you want it taking up space like that? I think the idea of having it mount directly behind that main beam in your living room is a good idea. Maybe I'm not visualizing your "coffee table" idea properly, but it doesn't sound as slick as ceiling mounted to me. The other issue with having it on the floor, is wiring. Being on a slab, you have nowhere to hide the wires (not that this stopped you before). At least from the ceiling you could run them along the beam, and down the wall somehow. Easily hidden with coverings. JMHO.
AVB ( 64.41.32.106 ) at 11:40 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Ceiling or table mount?
CuRTis: You'll have to think about heat if you enclose that beast in a cabinet. Also you may want to see how noisy it is before putting it on the floor. The further away the fans are the less intrusive it will be. Can you say hushbox?
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 11:37 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Cytotech: I know, just bustin' some nads (and we wonder why there aren't more women here).
The seller tells me that he has been deluged with buyers every since he posted this. Everyone wanted it but thought the deal was too good to be true, so they got stuck like the proverbial deer in the headlights & failed to act.
The guy selling is a perfectionest, all settings, no fault/ errors messages were shown on the service menu right befor he crated it up. The projector even records all voltages and reports any peaks/ valleys encountered. I hope it gets here safely too. Then again if it's trashed I get a quick check for $28K. Serious toy money there. Either way I win.
AVB ( 64.41.32.106 ) at 11:34 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Screen
CuRTis: On the AVScience ads section there is somebody selling a new 116x65 Dalite. I saw it this morning.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.47 ) at 11:29 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
CuRTis: Yeah, but you have to admit... it got your attention!
BTW, in regards to your proj./coffee table/wiring problem...
Had you not stolen it right out from under me( ), I would have also housed it in a coffee table. AND, since my carpet wasn't down at the time I would have sawed/chiseled up some of the slab in order to run some PVC there. Then I could have run any cables necessary. Thanks for saving me all that effort.
Seriously, enjoy that sucker! I had no intention of using a CRT because I didn't think I could implement it into my room. BUT, had I known it was just in H'ville, I would have JUMPED at it. Hope it arrives safely. Post some pics when you get it set up.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 11:17 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Scott "popcorn": I can assure you that your free SGI CPU will not ship till things change around here - your decision
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.47 ) at 11:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
New forum name
Admins: I agree. Very original, and very funny!
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 11:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Ceiling or table mount?
Each has it's benefits/drawbacks. Even though the elegant & expensive dual pipe design ceiling mount is included I'm leaning towards having a custom coffee table built for the FP to match the gloss cherry speakers and big storage rack now being made. It would actually be narrower than my current table and only 6 inches deeper to protect those huge lenses. Height works out nicely too.
With teens running around I worry about the table getting jarred, yet I can bolt the legs to the concrete slab. The the weight of the FP alone will be it very stable. I'll ask my cabinetmaker to install a piano-hinged dorr to cover the lenses when not in use. Now how am I going to hide the cables running from table to rack?
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.115 ) at 11:08 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
New forum name
Tony C: Piss them off & it could well be your name up there tomorrow
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:04 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
New forum name
LOL Nice job guys.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.230 ) at 10:48 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
So what does it all add up to/ mean? I'm prepping my room and shopping for a 16:9 screen. Adding a new circuit for it as well. What size should I use. Is 72Hz the sweet spot for such FP's, or something higher? Man do I need to build a HTPC.
If this thing will put up the picture I think it will, I may never leave the house at night again!
I owe Gar bigtime on this. The most amazing thing of all is that the entire past 3 posts have been re 100% HT
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.230 ) at 10:44 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
big oops: make that
Resolution: RGB 2,000 x 2,000 lines
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.230 ) at 10:42 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
FP specs/ advice welcomed
From the manual for the FP on a very cushy air ride truck, double crated with shock indicators and fully insured for $28K if it doesn't arrive in perfect condition.
Specs:
Rated light output: peaked-1000 lumens/ Focused-400 lumens
CRT's -Proprietary (Sony OEM) liquid-cooled/coupled 9" magnetically focused CRT's with Schelmpflug (sounds exotic, huh?) focal plane adjustment
Resolution -RGB:200x200 lines / Video: 650 lines
Scan Frequencies - Horiz: 15KHz to90KHz autolock / Vertical: 40Hz to 150Hz autolock
Minimum retrace - Horiz: <3uS / Vert: <400uS
Inputs - Analog RGB1 module (RGsB/S/H&V), 4 x S-video, RGB2
Remotes - Full function LCD hard wired (oh great more wires) remote with 25 ft. cable / Executive infrared and technician infrered transmitter/receiver
Remote control operates - brightness, contrast, color, tinit, size, phasing, raster alignment, focus, standby, on/off, blanking, test patterns, and all static & dynamic registration, store and recall of all settings, up to 50 channels of analof RGB, TTL and video, 8 channel RS232 switcher
Special features - RS232 communications for computer control and networking. Microprocessor-based, modular design for ease of servicing. Operational and error diagnostic LCD display on the remote control. Internal help menu setup and operating instructions. Remote digital registration (sounds cool, what the hell is it?) Stores 50 user selected configurations.
Dimensions - 11.8" high x 32.0" w x 39.0 deep
Net weight 175 lbs.
Part # - 69351
Operating ambient temperature - +32F to 97F
Operating ambient humidity - 20% to 80% non-condensing
Power requirements - 110V: 100Vac to 132Vac 60/50Hz
Maximum power - 600 Watts
Ron H ( 63.26.164.96 ) at 10:00 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Bryston
Derb: LOL
Wild Bill ( 63.36.12.115 ) at 9:55 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
LCD Projectors
Cajun Mike: The Sony 10HT is unquestionably the best deal in LCD projection. 16:9 panels and a very loyal following. I wasn't even aware that Marantz had an LCD. I know they do have a DLP projector. Could you have the 2 confused? I would NOT even look at a Mitsubishi projector. You need to look at companies that are known for projectors and Mitsubishi ain't one. Good luck.
Cajun Mike ( 172.146.114.84 ) at 9:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
LCD Projectors
Hey guys...what's the best deal in LCD projectors? The Mitsubishi looks to be well priced. The Marantz doesnt accept a progressive scan DVD player. I'm sure many of you are up on these things. Im thinking about yanking out my hometheater cabinet and going front projection.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 9:23 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Kieran: That's why it's not a problem.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 8:56 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
JBC: If the amp runs dead cold, you may not hear it because the fan's not turning on? Maybe it only turns on the fan when thermal demands require it?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Derb: You have to believe this... the fan is not a problem at all. I never' hear it at all and the amp runs dead cold!
Derb ( 199.174.4.137 ) at 8:11 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Bryston
Ron H: So long as she does it quietly and has big woofers we are OK
Sports fans, hell any body can be a sports fan. Dress bull dog up in a funny outfit and it can be called a sports fan.
Ron H ( 63.26.174.110 ) at 8:04 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Bryston
Derb: "I don't like anything that has a fan"
How about a beautiful lady holding one and another feeding you grapes?
How about sports they have fans?
V Dude ( 152.163.213.191 ) at 8:02 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Bagman---
Read those comments about using a screw driver. How you doing with it? Read where your plone was not working due to landlord not paying the phone bill. Are you back on. What new on the move, if anything. Bet you are getting antsy to on with it.
Derb ( 199.174.4.137 ) at 7:48 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Bryston
JBC: The Bryston monoblock's were on my short list. I liked the sound impact they put up, and seamed to run cool, if that's a problem. It seamed I was paying for the 20 year warrenty more than anything else. They got nixed because of speaker lugs not taking an oversized spade. They have the same problem as the Marantz RickMTB is looking at. I have no expierence with the Cinepro so I can not comment, other than I don't like anything that has a fan.
Wild Bill ( 63.15.231.31 ) at 7:48 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Joe: I have been feeling OK up until this evening. I had 2 appointments today and spent the day out and about. I'm paying for it tonight...but...I made a weeks worth of wages at my old job today alone. I guess I can live with a bit of pain tonight when I consider the day I had. Thanks for asking.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Northern Virginia Group: Found this posting at alt.home-theater.marketplace..."I'm building a "real" home theater in a dedicated (20' X 15') basement room and need to hire consultant services for help on deciding on components (projector, screen, speakers, etc) and placement. We're talking real home Theater here!! not the wimpy 60" TVs."
Those in the area interested in a little business, drop this guy a line.
Usual commissions apply...:):)
Any references or ideas welcome.
Thanks,
Julian
Miked ( 24.112.158.233 ) at 6:55 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Bryston
There is a little shop just outside of Peterbourough where Bryston is located. He does mostly custom installs for places like Belleville, Peterborough and surrounding area. I paid him for the amp and drove over to the Bryston factory to pick it up, got to meet some of the folks there, it was great. I was using a Cinema Grand prior to the Bryston driving a pair of Paradigm 100s V2s, don't laugh, but I can definitely hear more detail and separation of instruments with the Bryston. I got the 17 inch model with the silver faceplate, auto on circuity and I am really pleased with it. I have to phone the guy tomorrow, I forgot to go back to pick up my receipt, e-mail me at mikedit@hotmail.com if you want me to see what he can do. Should be no problem price matching, not sure he would ship, but Toronto isn't that far from Peterborough. Let me know.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.87 ) at 6:38 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Not so super bowl?
cai: I was pulling for your Giants. It hurts to lose the big one. I trust you're over it by now. I do biz with NYers all the time & all of them seem pretty bummed this week.
There was an old Playboy cartoon showing a dejected looking dad gazing out the window with the TV on behind him showing a SB celebration. His wife & tennaged daughter are having this conversation (mom to girl) "This may not be the best time to tell your father that you're pregnant honey, his team just lost the Super Bowl"
See? Things can (& often do) always get worse. Keep your sunny side up.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 6:20 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Miked From where did you get such a great deal?
Miked ( 24.112.158.233 ) at 5:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Bryston
JBC: My vote is for the 4B-ST, especially since I bought myself one for Xmas. They are conservatively rated, the test/spec sheet that came with mine lists it at 306 Watts per channel. I don't think you can go wrong with either setup, but to counter Ron, BUY CANADIAN!! Miked from Ottawa. I got my 4B-ST for 2550 Canadian, tax included.
Joe ( 152.163.194.201 ) at 5:17 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Wild Bill, Feeling any better?
Wild Bill ( 63.21.88.59 ) at 4:19 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
RickMTB: The Marantz SR-19 is THX Select. Crossovers are fixed at 80 hz.
JBC ( 207.164.221.126 ) at 3:45 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
RicnMTB: Why do you think that there are power blackouts in CA?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 3:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
JBC: Do the lights on your block dim when you fire that bad boy up?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.196 ) at 3:38 PM EST Tuesday, January 30, 2001
Gasgeek: Thanks! The SGHT review of the SR-19 that JBC was kind enough to fax me details that very procedure (removing insert with screw). The review also pointed to the conservative ohm rating (8ohm) as well. Very positive review btw, makes the receiver sound very musical and well-built (and praises the remote). How does the receiver handle SW crossovers? Minor nit: too bad it doesn't come in the optional gold like its bigger brother...
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) a