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Gar ( 66.222.127.51 ) at 12:13 PM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003
My local NASA pals tonight

Curtis: I few of my friends new the Doctor from Racine Wisconsin, and I used to call on the clinic where she worked at.
Joelc ( 216.223.140.14 ) at 11:46 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003

Derb, Ron H, and RickMTB: SOrry that I missed the fun. For what it is worth, I spoke to Ron earlier this am and it seems as though another trip to Houston is in the future.

I will try for a weekend that works for everyone next time!
Joe ( 152.163.201.211 ) at 11:27 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003
Another one down

Tony C: Stress and poor health.
Derb ( 209.245.199.105 ) at 10:52 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003
It Lives Ahhahhhaaha

RickMTB, Thanx for having the Houston Connection "HHTOC" into your lovely home in the Woody Woodlands. It was great to meet your wife Lori and your two wonderful little girls, bringing them up in the HT spirt and your big brown kojo looking dog. Thank You for dinner and the company it was fun tearing the HT apart and getting it back together. Joelc could have used your help, sorry I missed the last gathering when you were down.
The moving of a huge entertainment center, couches and chairs upstairs and another couch back downstairs, man that was just plain old work, that was not fun at all :)
After finding that the builder had not tagged any of the wires that had been run for a whole house system. We used a 9 volt battery and a hot wire probe and knocked them out one by one. Ron set-up all the speakers on omni brackets and fastened them to the walls, while Rick bored holes in the built in cabinet for the power cables and interconnects. Finally the final connection process of a downsized media/HT system began to take shape.
Rick pushed the power button and no smoke Yeahhhh!! Now the process begins of converting Rick over to some new speakers. I thought I had him sold on some floor/demo models at Tweeters, he was still talking about them at dinner so, just maybe, go get those Vienna's. Watched a Panasonic 50 or 52" DLP RPTV for a while, Ron noticed the blacks were not that good, but the colors seamed very good. I'm waiting to get a look at the Samsung 61" DLP and the Toshiba LCOS 57"
Again it was a lot of fun and it was great to see Ron & Rick again. Next time we will have to have tweaking session in Katy,TX.
Rick that lazy suzan is 17-3/4" deep by 32" wide if you can use it.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 10:13 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003
Many thanks to Ron and Derb

Saturday, Ron and Derb surrender their Saturday and drove over an hour each to help me move large pieces of furniture up and down stairs and from room to room. Then, with great patience and expertise they helped me set up my meager HT system in what was left of my living room. The result, extremely high WAF and while the room config was a challenge (and equipment old and entry-level) the look and sound isn't as bad as I feared it would be.

All they would accept were my humble thanks, a few cold beverages, a few snacks, and a trip over to the nearby Tweeters (um, er, needed supplies).

There help was invaluable, and as always, they made for a very fun time. Laurie, Marisa, Olivia, and I all extend are deepest appreciation.
Joelc ( 216.223.140.14 ) at 9:57 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003

Good morning gang!
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.141.76.37 ) at 2:59 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003
My local NASA pals tonight

Curtis: There is a song by Mark Wills (I think), called "Nineteen-Something". It describes a lot of things that were around or happened in the 1970's and 1980's (when he was growing up... Really kewl song. But today, I just couldn't play it, even though I was thinking about it. One line of the verse describing the 1980's is "Space Shuttle fell out of the sky, and the whole world cried" Ain't it the truth. This time they won't be able to wait as long to resume missions, because of the Space Station. I guess all I can say is... It's really sad, and nothing can really make it better, but forging new frontiers is a dangerous thing, and I applaude those who risk their lives to expand our knowledge and our society.. :)
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.141.76.37 ) at 2:51 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003
Happy birthday Bouncey

Curtis:
I'll give you an SGI computer for ... no wait, I already did ;-)
Actually, the SGI came to me... and Something happened to the second one, I forgot what. But that's ok, I took him and his wife (also birthday today) out to dinner, then had them over to watch "Sum of all fears" on my HT. :)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:21 AM EST Sunday, February 2, 2003
My local NASA pals tonight

... lost a friend today. The local microbrewery regulars include a bunch of guys who work at NASA Ames here in Mountain View. They never talk much about what they do, but I know they have a lot to do with the shuttle program.

Tonight I stopped by for a quick brew and there they all were - looking like death. All they could tell was that they had been at work all day for obvious reasons. One of the women killed today spent 6 years at Ames. They all knew her as a real test pilot in the image of Yeager who was also a brilliant scientist. She could fly ANYTHING and of course had to try harder in the whole macho environment that's 98% men.

To look at and talk to my friends you would swear that they lost a close family member ... and they did. I mean they were totally irreconsolable. Kinda puts selling off my HT as a downer in perspective. Whe this sh*t happens, everyone in the program wonders if their piece amoung the thousands of others to pull it off was their responsibility.

I have never seen a group that needed a drink more and I hope I never see it again. Sorry to bring y'alll down.
Gar ( 66.222.50.25 ) at 9:47 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Question?

Anyone know where a good place online to buy this headset would be? This is direct from the manufactuer, but I am sure some other computer store should have them.

http://www.labtec.com/index.cfm?page=gear/details&contentid=8&countryid=1001&languageid=1
Gar ( 66.222.50.25 ) at 9:23 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Pissed Off!

I found out today as I woke from a nice night of sleep, to puddles of water in are Atrium. New Roof only 3 years old and it leaks more than the old one did, very little snow on the roof, regardless if there is snow it shouldn't leak. If I get any kind of lame excuse out of they people that did this crappy job, I will for the first time ever seek a good attorney!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 7:46 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003

... this RP. On paper it sure looks good. Anybody do any critical viewing on them yet?

http://www.tvauthority.com/Plasma_TV_LCD_TVs_HDTV/product.asp?dept=42&cat=&prod=722
Tony C ( 68.72.115.5 ) at 6:48 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003

Curtis: AT least you can take some solace in the knowledge that some of your friends have your babies and will think of you when they are in use.
Joelc ( 64.229.55.65 ) at 5:56 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003

Afternoon gents.

Ron H: Git your e-mail and have sent one back to you. Noticed the post below regarding the sale of yourbeloved ML... what have you decided to get in their place and how stealthy are you going to go?

Curtis: I feel for you man. Hopefully, and in the not too disyant future, you will building another HT with newer, better and "Curtis priced" gear! Keep your chin up... can only get better.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:48 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Elite group buy turned into DLP RP buy

Somehow I knew this would happen. I secure an amazing price on the Pro800HD plasma's for a buy of 6 units. The group happens to be all wives - each and every one of their husbands nixxed the deal because "they weren't paying $xK for a stupid TV" Sigh - idiots wouldn't know a good pictue if it bit them.

Plan B then: The Samsung DLP-2 (Mustang chip) 43", 50" & 60" RP's. All of the buyers are building custom cabinetry that will be as deep as these that are designed to sit on a shelf. Specs here: http://www.samsungelectronics.com/tv/projection_tv/index.html

The real crime is the price of the RP's isn't all that much lower than the 43" Elite plasma with wall brackets/ installation. I will never, ever understand non-HT people ;-)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:39 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Happy birthday Bouncey

I'll give you an SGI computer for ... no wait, I already did ;-)
Tony C ( 68.72.115.5 ) at 4:50 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Another one down

Joe: Some environmental problems at the plant?
Joe ( 205.188.199.187 ) at 4:15 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Another one down

Well I mentioned a few weeks ago we lost a few supervisors to chest problems and other things. Today they hauled out the man covering my job. His BP was 200+. NOw we are down 5 since Jan 3
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 3:17 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Queen

Got to hear them on a 150k system WoW they have not sound that good in a very long time.The amp was 42kcan.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 12:12 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003

Ron: Just got back from our last basketball game... should take about 1.5 hrs max, most likely less. Maybe an hour and 15 minutes. I would also guess the same for Derb... again, really appreciate the help.
Gar ( 66.222.49.116 ) at 12:07 PM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
dismantling the HT

Curtis: I usually sell stuff by the piece to try something else, never had to go through the unloading of everything yet, and I hope it never happens. But at the rate me and my wife are going at it I could see allot of things happening not for the better.
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 11:50 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
dismantling the HT

Derb: I had the pain of dismantling my system 8 months ago and it is still not back together and may not be for a long time since I don't see how I can ever get my MLs up. I am waiting to get some new speakers that will fit the bookshelf area they need to go. I have seen a top secret speaker project that has me waiting for a little while longer.
Joe ( 205.188.199.162 ) at 11:45 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
CD Mega changer

Tony C: Cai had a Kenwood 400 disc changer for sale
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 10:30 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Houston We Have A Problem

Ron: I thought you were joking till I turned on the TV to watch the sickening video.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20030201/ap_on_sc/space_shuttle_28
Derb ( 209.244.119.106 ) at 10:27 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
dismantling the HT

RickMTB: Drinking some coffee and then I'll be on my way. Just saw Ron's note and turned on the TV. My stomach does not feel so hot all of a sudden.
Tony C ( 68.23.43.238 ) at 10:18 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
CD Mega changer

Didn't someone here have a CD Mega changer for sale?
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:43 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
Houston We Have A Problem

Shuttle lost during re-entry.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:43 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003

RickMTB:How much time should I allow for the drive?
AVB ( 64.41.33.186 ) at 7:57 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
dismantling the HT

Curtis: This is the main reason I have so much old used stuff, it isn't worth very much so I can keep it.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 7:40 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
dismantling the HT

Scott "popcorn": Agreed... and hopefully Ron and Derb will help make my room reconfig workable; since most of the equipment will likely go into storage...
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:29 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
The Recruit

Rich F:The previews looked great.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.141.76.204 ) at 2:18 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
dismantling the HT

Curtis: We all feel for you, man! :) Actually, I'm sure some of us have been through it... but we had a plan of where it was going to be connected again.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:13 AM EST Saturday, February 1, 2003
dismantling the HT

I hope none of you has to go through this process. It's like losing your babies.
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 11:54 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
The Recruit

Great movie. Lots of suspense and Pacino is awesome as always. Of course, it was a great Dell commercial too.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:25 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

RickMTB: Sounds like a plan
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:45 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Ron: We may need to take a quick trip over to Tweeters for parts, supplies, or "just lookings"... ;-)
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:15 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Gar: I have pretty weird taste in music, and Patricia Vonne's style is kinda out there. But hey, I have another favorite named Lisa Haley (and the Zydekats. Here's a web site where you can sample her:
http://www.thecosmicstore.com/bands/lisa-haley/cd-2.shtml
http://www.zydecomusic.com/lisa.html
http://www.zydecomusic.com/music.html

I have Waiting for the Sky and its one of the most fun CDs in my collection (especially Don't Tell Your Mother and Genevieve. I saw her at an Art and Wine festival in San Jose and bought her CD while she was still playing. Talked with her afterwords... way cool.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:10 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

RickMTB: I will be there.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:04 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Ron: Yup, still at 1pm at my humble abode. Do you still have the directions (you too, Derb?)? Laurie has changed the menu three or four times, flip-flopping between red meat and chicken (we are back on chicken, on the Weber). She is preparing a hot shrimp appetizer. The Bock will be cold. Heavy furniture will be waiting. And any and all help making the new room configuration work for HT, natch. Look forward to seeing you both...
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:57 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

If anyone is interested I have a Pronto, a Yamaha RF Demodulator, ML Scripts and a ML LOGOS for sale. If interested drop me a email.

ronhtx@msn.com
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:54 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

RickMTB: Is it at one on Saturday?
Gar ( 66.222.49.218 ) at 7:01 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Great CD

Tony C: I saw Susan a few years ago at the Berrymore Theater which is small in comparison to what she is doing now. I met her and a few other singers that night because my friend owns the place. Also Norah does have a great voice, she needs to sing more of her own songs and I bet she will be even better. Also Susans new CD is the best one I have heard yet.
Tony C ( 68.23.47.240 ) at 6:42 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Ron: "Thank God Micky is a gem".
Your you kidding? She probably can't wait to get you out of the house again!

JK,JK, really, a joke. :)
Tony C ( 68.23.47.240 ) at 6:39 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Great CD

Gar: Your right on about Susan. I discovered her about two years ago with her first album. She can sing and play. Can't help but to compare her to Bonnie Raitt, but I like Susan's voice better.

Norah Jones. I never thought this album was all that good. It has the one OK track on it. But kudos to Blue Note for breaking her. EMI really needed the billing this year. Plus they sold about 1.5 mil at the lower Developing Artist Price.
Gar ( 66.222.49.218 ) at 6:04 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

She's not bad, just got done trying one of her MP3s. Good, but nothing like Susan's voice. But then again totally different styles of music, she is also much better looking.
Gar ( 66.222.49.218 ) at 5:53 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Great CD

RickMTB: Man she is hot! Can she sing?
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 5:00 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
meaning of the F word...

The audio file I was looking for is on humor.com under their downloads section, in the .mp3 files area.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.181 ) at 4:35 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
meaning of the F word...

Kieran: Filed under carnal knowledge...
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.181 ) at 4:34 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Ron: ... and traveling to The Woodlands :-)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:12 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
meaning of the F word...

Has anyone ever heard the humorous audio file that discusses the various meanings of the "F" word? It's put together sort of like Masterpiece Theater, with classical music in the background (Vivaldi Four Seasons, actually) and a guy with a sophisticated sounding voice talking.

If you know a web url where I can d/l this I'd appreciate it. My boss wants to hear it... I don't want to seach for it though, as I'm afraid it would turn up some bad hits... ;-)
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.181 ) at 3:07 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Ron: ... and traveling to The Woodlands :-)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 2:18 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Ron: Excellent! I was worried about the tracking # stuff. It should keep you busy this weekend.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 2:06 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Curtis: email coming your way!
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 1:59 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Well I told my wife I would not be traveling much this year. I just forund out I leave for Greensboro NC on monday for a week. Since the first of the year I have been home for only 1 whole week.

Thank God Nicky is a gem.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 1:58 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Curtis: Ther is joy in Houston!!!!
Thanks
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.181 ) at 1:30 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Great CD

RickMTB: ... and her web site:

http://www.patriciavonne.com/
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.181 ) at 1:28 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Great CD

Gar: Gee, since Norah Jones has "gone big" reckon we have to find our new people to tout... here's mine: :-)

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/features/1758405
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:58 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Ron: Any joy in Houston?
AVB ( 64.41.33.2 ) at 12:51 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Cheap DVD player

Need one for the bedroom? Deepdiscountdvd.com has a player for $69 with free delivery.
Gar ( 66.222.50.39 ) at 12:31 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Great CD

Susan Tedeschi "Wait for Me" A decent looking women who can sing the crap out of the Blues and some Jazz!!!
Gar ( 66.222.50.39 ) at 12:29 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
One for Curtis!

Kieran: Sorry should have put a warning on that one. Warning Warning Danger Danger Will Robbinson!!!!!! :)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 12:12 PM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
One for Curtis!

Gar: I'm guessing by the URL that that site is porn. I didn't click on it, but how about a warning next time just in case, hmmmm? Thanks.
Gar ( 66.222.50.39 ) at 11:50 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
One for Curtis!

http://www.digitalsindvd.com/__cats/my_plaything/plaything_jenna2/plaything_jenna2.htm

Man shot in HD, I bet the Fleshtones are very good on this DVD! ;)
Gar ( 66.222.50.39 ) at 11:49 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
SOCOM PS2 Game

Kieran: You need a PS2 Network adapter which run around $35 bucks. The game is very good, I am in a Clan called =TF= Tactical Forces, we are mostly on at 9pm central time in the East Coast server. Game comes with headset and training manual.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 11:31 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
SOCOM PS2 Game

Gar: If you buy the game, does it come with everything you need to play online (i.e. headset, etc.?) Also, does the PS2 come stock with a network card installed? I have a DSL connection, and my buddy is going to bring over his PS2... do we need to buy a network adapter or is the stock PS2 ready to go?
RB ( 65.128.220.144 ) at 11:29 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Thanks

Tony C: ,Gasgeek: Thanks muchly! Got to have some good Indian food on my birthday from a local restaurant called "Crown of India." It was very oily and very heavy - and thus very good!
Gar ( 66.222.50.39 ) at 10:22 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
SOCOM PS2 Game

If anyone has the PS2 they should pick up this puppy. Online gameplay is a blast, I started out playing it online a while back ago, but then my Cable connection went to
crap. Using DSL and it is very easy to start playing and loose the track of time. What is nice about it you can communicate while playing with anyone around the Globe.
Gar ( 66.222.50.39 ) at 10:18 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Saw this over on HTF...

Kieran: What a joke, bunch of communists. Downhill and then some. I should go there and give an opinion and see what happens. Problem is, Monster Cable might be sponsoring the site. So much for freedom of speech etc....
Joelc ( 216.223.140.14 ) at 9:54 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003

Good morning gang!
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 9:20 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Saw this over on HTF...

Kieran: HTF has really gone downhill IMO. I'll leave it at that. ;)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:23 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Saw this over on HTF...

Kieran: No control freaks on that forum at all. Heaven forbid that anyone should be able to express an opinion. Hello people? This is simply a hobby that we share an interest in, remember? We're all here to have some fun & provoke a little thought.

I hope that you gave the moderator both barrells.
Kieran ( 209.148.114.124 ) at 12:45 AM EST Friday, January 31, 2003
Saw this over on HTF...

This note is at the top of their "tweaking, connections and accessories" forum:
Note: This area of the forum has been set up to discuss/debate the use of cables, interconnects and tweaks. It has not been set up to offer an opinion that has not been asked for. If a member asks which brand of interconnect, etc. to buy this does not give anyone the right to tell them not to buy them in the first place in that same thread. If the member asks you for your opinion on whether to buy a product or not then your opinion is welcome. Posts that are made for the sole purpose of offering an opinion that was not asked for will be deleted!
Good grief.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 10:55 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Pioneer Elite Plasma Scaler

Wild Bill: Yeah the more I think about it the nuttier this guys case sounds. I lived with a 50" Pioneer plasma in my HT for several months. All HD was stunning ... everything else (no scaler) was an artifact trainwreck. I think Kieran and Tony C saw the same things. You're right - this particular guy runs a more mass market kind of store where customers are happy to drop $12K on a 43" plasma that looks horrid in their homes running off of the cheapest non progressive DVD players and digital crappy AT&T cable.

I'll wager he makes a decent profit off of the Monster $1,500 power conditioners too ;-) One of his customers is a neighbor who paid a steep price for a Fujitsu 50" plasma. He couldn't believe the PQ on my lowly Sampo 34" direct view comparred to his display. I explained that it doesn't have to look so bad.
Gar ( 66.222.127.20 ) at 10:42 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Water Cooled Computer Cases

Robert: Thanks for that site, pretty cool lookning computer, and believe me I love the idea of a quite computer. Especially doing audio,which that machine you posted looks to be a winner in that area. How much are they? Also, is that just the case and you build around it? Or can you order a custom computer from them. The Audigy2 sound card is excellent, friend has one and it sounds fantastic.
Wild Bill ( 172.144.253.252 ) at 10:18 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Pioneer Elite Plasma Scaler

Curtis: Ummm...I've seen Elite Plasmas with nd without scalers. There's no comparison. Anyone who thinks ANY display (capable of accepting a scaler) is better off without a scaler is smoking something or crazy. Usually the folks that make this type of assertion simply aren't video people to begin with. They wouldn't know an artifact if it jumped up and bit them on the ass.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 10:08 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Terry Tate films

Woops... here's the link:
http://terrytate.reebok.com/index.asp?etf=104
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 10:08 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Terry Tate films

You probably have seen this on TV (I think it was on during the superbowl) but this has the super EXTENDED version (4 minutes)
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:13 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

Curtis: Mail your way.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:45 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

Tony Said "It's pretty confusing at wedding and funerals"

Is there a differance :)
Tony C ( 68.23.97.246 ) at 8:18 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Another Set UP

I went to another cousins house tonight to help with a set up of a 65" Mits an old Marantz 5.1 receiver and a mix of speakers.
Just as an aside, this cousin's name is the exact same as my other cousin's name. It's an Italian thing. Watch Good Fella's. It's pretty confusing at wedding and funerals. But the good thing is a guy like me can feel tall.
ANYWAY...
I get there and he tells me that he lost the remote to the Marantz a year ago. Guess what? You can't do squat on the face of the machine.
So all I did was an Avia set up and convergence on the TV.
Then we go upstairs to his family room set up and he's got a brand new Denon 3803! Why aren't you using this in the HT? Because 5 years ago the Marantz was more expensive.
I told him I'll come back after he's switched receivers.
Tony C ( 68.23.97.246 ) at 8:10 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Thanks

RB: Belated Happy Birthday. (missed that...)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:08 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Stupid Antenna Question

cai: I concur ...unless the geography between you and the transmittion tower causes real signal change or multipath. I have helped install HD antennie that work best when pointed 180 degress from where it "should" be.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:28 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Stupid Antenna Question

cai: Think of the antenna array as a net that is going to catch the RF waves... it should open up towards the transmitter. If you have an old style yaggi with no angles, then the bigger elements are at the back, the shorter ones in front.
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.71.191.135 ) at 6:59 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

AVB:
'cause no work gets done at 3:20 AM.
I dunno about that... when programming, I'm pretty productive after midnight. I think it's partly because I'm a night owl to begin with, and also, everyone has gone to bed, so no distractions :P
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.71.191.135 ) at 6:57 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Stupid Antenna Question

cai: Yes. the short ones should be closest to the station. Think of these antennas as a planar section of a dish. The long elements grab the signal and reflect it back up to the shorter elements.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 6:30 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Stupid Antenna Question

In a multiple array antenna, that is short and long elements, which ones should be pointing in the direction of the HDTV stations? I think it is the short ones, but I am asking just in case - the only stupid question is the one not asked.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:11 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

We had a close one here lastnight. This tanker fell off the expressway and blew up. My brother was on his way back from dropping off a patient at the hostipal. As him and his partner passed the fire started and then blew. There are marks on the side of the ambulance from the heat. He said you could feel the heat inside the rig. They had to indentify the truck from the vin plate.


http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/news/013003_NW_da_explosion_folo.html
Derb ( 207.70.162.160 ) at 5:55 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Big $$

Johnbr: The Classe Mono Block amps were on my short list. They have received excellent reviews. They have since changed the binding posts on the back to accept two sets for bi-wire. A big improvement I think.
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 4:53 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Big $$

Going to hear the Classe Omega tonight.Full Omega pre sacd/dvd player and amps.Yes
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:30 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
DVD-A and SACD

JT: www.tower.com has a pretty good selection of both last time I looked. www.amazon.com had great prices on DVD-A titles.

I really like Joni Mitchell's latest Both Sides Now (I have a duplicate shrinkwrapped copy if you like), but some think it's just depressing music. Steelly Dan' Two Against Nature, Geo. Benson's Breezin', Queens' A Night at the Opera is interesting. Philip Glass's sountrack to the film Koyaanisqatsi has some azazing choir vocals/ deep organ bass. This should get you started.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 4:08 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
DVD-A and SACD

JT: Try DVDplanet.com I have bought several fomr them. THe prices are usally dollars less then Best Buy.
JT ( 167.136.246.187 ) at 3:14 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
DVD-A and SACD

I know this has been covered before, but I can't find the data. Where are some good places to find DVD-A and SACD discs? I went by my local Best Buy and their selection of DVD-A was pretty weak and they had no SACD. I assume there are some good online sources. Also, what are some titles you would recommend?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 2:09 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Pioneer Elite Plasma Scaler

Gasgeek: Thanks for your input. One of my Elite dealers swears that even a Faroudja NRS doesn't improve the PQ on the 43" as well as an excellent power conditioner will (~$1,500 retail). For some reason I highly doubt this but I'll keep an open mind and test out his theory.

Re: real estate values. Sounds just like here. You get a tax bill for a little track house in this town placing your property value at $1M. The breakdown is $750K for the small lot/ $250K for the house! It's madness and even the original owners who paid $20K for these places when new are pissed that the middle class to upper middle classes are being forced way out of the area.

Then there's the whole idea of everyone using their houses as credit cards and refinancing to the hilt withh the cheap loans... if this RE market ever tanks (and a lot of people think it will) there are going to be tons of bankrupcies.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:30 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Pioneer Elite Plasma Scaler

Curtis: To answer you about the scaler my wife's boss will be using with his 43" Elite Plasma, the answer is none. He's a tightwad from the word go. The fact I got him to go for a HD plasma, let alone an Elite is a miracle. I did show him what a SB picture would look like and he was ok with it. Somewhere down the line, I will introduce the idea of a scaler. Right now I'm up to my ears in wire install coordination and sketches for dish and antennae approval by the condo association. This is a high end housing development in Manhattan Beach. Lots of Dodgers, Lakers, etc. in there.

Actually, there is no low end area in Manhattan Beach. Just heard of a small house, on a small lot, on the east side of Sepulveda that sold as a tear down for $750,000 yesterday.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:24 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Belated Happy Birthday RB

Out of the office yesterday. Hope you had a great one, and here's wishing you have many more.
RB ( 65.128.217.36 ) at 1:00 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Thanks

JoelC, Robert: Thanks for the birthday wishes yesterday - much appreciated!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:43 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Water Cooled Computer Cases

cai: As long as you don't feel like you always have to visit the mens room while you're near the case ;-)
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 12:19 PM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Water Cooled Computer Cases

cai: supposedly this is a pretty quiet machine as well. It's based on the Shuttle 51G setup. I'm supposed to have acouple samples sent to me.
http://www.slixpc.com/
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:35 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Water Cooled Computer Cases

Someone in the forum spoke about this subject a few weeks ago. Could you please post the web site where I can get more information? Would something like this be a good idea for an HTPC? A computer tech at work has also mentioned this technology and thinks that it could make for a very silent machine.

Thank you.

AVB ( 64.41.32.81 ) at 8:05 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003
Bi-amp? Subwoofers or just more juice.

A Cinepro 3K6 I for $1500. http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?ampsmult&1048823466
AVB ( 64.41.32.81 ) at 7:05 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

Curtis: An all nighter....I just hope it is booze or sex 'cause no work gets done at 3:20 AM.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 6:20 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

Good evening gents. Don't even ask.
Joelc ( 64.229.57.164 ) at 6:03 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

Good morning gang!
AVB ( 64.41.32.81 ) at 5:52 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

Cool, no indication the post even made it before the line dropped...You're still late Joel :)
AVB ( 64.41.32.81 ) at 5:51 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

5:51 and no Joel...you're late!
AVB ( 64.41.32.50 ) at 5:50 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

5:49 and no Joel...you're late!
AVB ( 64.41.32.50 ) at 5:50 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

5:49 and no Joel...you're late!
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 1:26 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

Joelc: In the hotel room still pounding away at the computer answering company enmails. My day started with a 6:00 AM flight. It does beat the alterntive of sitting home on the couch everyday waiting for the bill collectors to call.
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 12:08 AM EST Thursday, January 30, 2003

evening all


Tonight I had the Reggae music channel on dsih network.. The daughter got up and started dancing around. I wetn back to the guide and she strted pointing at the screen going EYYEYEYEYEYYEYEYE she must like Reggae.

I am just so glad she likes music. I guess it's time to buy some Reggae
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 11:16 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Ron - Your check showed up 2 days ago.

Curtis - Sorry...haven't received yours yet.

All - My wife has all the checks, but hasn't deposited them yet, just so you don't wonder why you haven't seen the debit hit yet.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:52 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Tony C: back to you
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Ron: email incoming
Joelc ( 64.229.52.228 ) at 9:02 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
Joel

Joe: No interest in a VMPS sub, at least at this point. Remember that I already have 2 M$K MX-350 MKII subs!
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:24 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
Joel

In fact there is an exit from I-69 that emptys into the VMPS dealers parking lot.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
Joel

If you are interested in VMPS and there is no dealer in Toronto there is one here. It takes me 4 hours to get to Toronto.
Tony C ( 68.23.42.88 ) at 7:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Curtis: check email.
Tony C ( 68.23.42.88 ) at 7:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
Moving some things around

AVB: Hey thanks! You just reminded me that I have almost the same thing that I used in my guitar rig rack. The Furman is still at my friends house. Time to get it back.
Joelc ( 216.223.140.14 ) at 6:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Well... after 13 hours at work it is time to go home and .... guess what... do more work!
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 5:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Curtis: Haven't had time to try yet. I'll post when if I do.
AVB ( 64.41.32.4 ) at 5:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
AVB

Joe: Can't say about the ground loop, there is nothing in the literature on that. It does clean up the power and act as a surge suppressor. I used it for the sequence ability. It does not provide balanced power. These is more info on the website I posted as the new and old units are functionally the same.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:24 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Gar: Glad to hear that you're happy with yours. Apple way overcharged for their 23HD display and it's good to see some competition along w/ the $2K Apple price drop.

Darian: Not all of those files have subchannels (the radar image) but if you aren't getting smooth playback it's likely because the player is attempting to display both main & subchannel at once. I'll check w/ my techie pals - Kieran - Were you able to make it work?
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 5:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
AVB

So will this Furman clean up noise and ground loop problems? I assume for that cost it does not output balanced power?
AVB ( 64.41.32.4 ) at 4:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
Moving some things around

I have a Furman PS-PRO available if anyone needs a 20 amp power conditioner/sequencer. This is an older model that was modified (by Furman) to accept balanced power. It still works with regular power too. New version is here: http://www.furmansound.com/pro/pwr_cond_seq/cond/cond2.htm to give you an idea. New List is $500 but this one is going for $200 plus shipping. Email me if interested.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 4:00 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
Ok, you asked for it ;-)

Curtis: Downloaded the player and decoder for HD as per instructed. Can't seem to open a second player and the video is very jerky with stops and starts. I have a P4 2.53 with 512 of ram. Must have something configured wrong.
Gar ( 66.222.50.84 ) at 1:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
killer 20.1" flat panel monitor at a realistic price

Curtis: I got one of the top of the line Video Cards in this G4 and this 23" looks much better than my Sony 19" CRT on everything except black levels. Here we go again the black level issue ;) I am no Videophile and I must say DVD have never looked better on my new screen. I also have a SyncMaster 191T by Samsung for my PC and that unit is almost has good
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 11:22 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
JT

Thanks for the offer, but we are probably going to become landlords. I've been spying on a few properties in Edina and closer to Uptown (Linden Hills). OF course that could change with what's going on now. Without jinxing it, if it all goes well, I'm sure you will all want at least one of the products I'll be responsible for.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 11:17 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
HAppy Belated Birthdays and current birthdays.

No matter how young/old you are, picturing Marilyn MOnroe singing "happy Birthday" to "you" is a good thing!!!
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 6:41 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
VMPS

Joelc: Subwoofer is still being designed. I should receive one in the next 60 days.
AVB ( 64.41.32.60 ) at 6:31 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
VMPS

Joelc: Actually the ribbon center is about $1K, I'm thinking of getting it.
Joelc ( 64.229.52.155 ) at 6:06 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
VMPS

AVB: I'll take three sets for my 7.1 setup. As an aside, is there a USD 5,000 matching centre?

Ron H: Please give us an update on your subwoofer beta testing.
AVB ( 64.41.32.60 ) at 5:53 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003
VMPS

Gar: The Triaural processor that was in the VMPS room won best of show. The RM/X speakers it was demoed on came in 2nd. The RM/X are going to list at about $9600 a pair.
AVB ( 64.41.32.60 ) at 5:51 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Christ Joel, 4:49 am!! Good Morning!!
Joelc ( 64.229.53.5 ) at 5:06 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

RB, SCott V: Happy birthday guys! Have a great day!
Joelc ( 64.229.53.5 ) at 4:49 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Good morning gang!!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:12 AM EST Wednesday, January 29, 2003

... and the pixel response is 4 x faster. OK I'll shutup now.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 11:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
killer 20.1" flat panel monitor at a realistic price

Gar: Compare it more to the 23" Apple (see the "compare" button) contrast is 70% higher and brightness goes 40% +. The warranty and pixel anomaly policies are far more consumer friendly.

This product is a big reason that Jobs dropped his prices. I saw one in action today. In general I am not a big LCD fan but this one looked near-CRT PQ to my eye. I'm still sticking with CRT's 'cause they still offer the best image ... sounds like the HT world, doesn't it? ;-)
Gar ( 66.222.51.123 ) at 11:42 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
killer 20.1" flat panel monitor at a realistic price

Curtis: I looked at those, but you can pick up the new 20 inch Apples for $1000 now. They just dropped there prices, even on there 23" High Def unit. I had a chance to compare them to the Formac units, also very nice for the money.
Gar ( 66.222.51.123 ) at 11:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
AVB

That last Thread was to you, friend was at CES and he said the best speakers he heard where from VMPS/Joseph Audio and Dynaudio. He stated that the VMPS won best of show.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 11:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
killer 20.1" flat panel monitor at a realistic price

Several graphic designer friends recently picked up one of these beauties and they all rave that it's miles better than what Apple sells for a far more $$. Yes, it'll work fine on everything else too. Can be found for less than the price shown here:

http://www.formac.com/p_bin/?cid=solutions_displays_gallery2010_03
Gar ( 66.222.51.123 ) at 11:14 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
VMPS

I just heard from a friend that was there, that they won best in show for Loudspeakers. Not sure what model, I think it was a smaller pair.
Gar ( 66.222.51.123 ) at 11:13 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
PS2 games

Kieran: regardless my Sony 10HT does a excellent job of filling up the screen when I play it. As Curtis stated the Xbox has more games that do HD and 16:9.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:37 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
43" Elite plasma

AVB: Well then I think my friend should consider buying yours when it's available. If she doesn't want it I'll bet one of the other plasma buyers will.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:34 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
same here

Byork: I thought I beat the deadline but don't see my name or the cleared check either & I'm close to you. I'll send a replacement if you don't tell me you have payment by the end of the week.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:24 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003

Byork: I am getting concerned that my check has not arrived yet. I will give it a few more days and send another...
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 8:38 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
RickMTB

Joe: Incoming email... :-)
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 8:37 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
music from my youth

AVB:Email coming your way. I really appreciate you doing this for me.
AVB ( 64.41.33.75 ) at 8:27 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
43" Elite plasma

Curtis: The HD Leeza will be out in about 45 days. It will be a great unit based on early reports. Also, there will be a a bunch of Digital Leeza scalers available (including mine) once the upgrade for us comes in. These Digital Leezas should be in the $2500-1800 range depending on condition and if they are going to include the SDI modified player or not.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 8:20 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
PS2 games

Gar: LOTR:TTT does not support 16:9 play... 4:3 only. I just found this thread over at HTF:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=a839da179887228eb7f6b0a347b796e5&threadid=100055
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:15 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
43" Elite plasma

My suggestion to the friend who has a group of 4 to 6 people each wanting "really great" 42" plamsa displays begins and ends with the Pioneer Elite Model Pro800HD because I know iit will handle any signal you throw at it well - though like all plasmas it needs a quality scaler for everything but HD.

I was quoted a lower price that I would have thought for a volume buy from an outstanding authorized source. Still not cheap but good plasmas are anything but inexpensive.

?? please. What reasonably priced scaler would you guys suggest with this model, besides the $4K Faroudja NRS?

Gasser: what is your boss going to use with his?
Gar ( 66.222.50.185 ) at 7:55 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
PS2 games

Kieran: Lord of the Rings Two Towers is a blast to play!! Also some interactive Porn Movies would be fun for a Bachelor party. Let me know, I bet I can burn a few from the Last Bachelor party I was at :)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 7:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
PS2 games

Kieran: Lots of nice 16:9 480p 5.1 DD games are available ... no wait, that's for the XBox. I'm sure my son would be happy to loan you his system with every "must have game" ;-) Just promise that the strippers won't fling it around while dancing.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:34 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
PS2 games

AVB: Ha! The video games will be AFTER the party... We're crashing at my place, and drinking eating and just hanging out all night. The strippers will stay at the club.
AVB ( 64.41.34.84 ) at 7:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
PS2 games

Kieran: Get a nice bright spotlight. Strippers look really good lit up against a white screen :>)
AVB ( 64.41.34.84 ) at 7:15 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
music from my youth

simm: You have mail at your triad address.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:15 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
PS2 games

I'm having a post bachelor party crash/hang out at my place for my buddy who's getting married 2/22. The party won't be for a few weeks, but I was wondering what PS2 games are "must see" games for a home theater system? My friend the groom to be, has a PS2, but it's only hooked up to a regular 32" TV, no surround sound. So, what games would be really cool to see on a widescreen TV with surround sound? His favorite game is Gran Tourismo3. Are there any games that are specifically made for widescreen 16x9 screens?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 6:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Tahoes

Joe: My Dad was an "Exec" with International Harvester. He got decked out Scout II's for 0 to 7,500 miles that I tore the crap out of driving when I was a teenager ;-) Here's hoping your exec doesn't have any teens at home.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:05 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
RickMTB

Rick I have some information for you off the forum. Drop me your addy Joseph.e.hansen@gm.com
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:03 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
State of the Union

Any predictions on what words george will attempt tonight? Is it war this month or next?
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:01 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Tahoes

Well I put in a order to "Tag" a 2003 Tahoe. These are trucks driven by execs for a few miles up to 7500. On top of my normal discounts they have a addtional discount of up to 14%. Now it's kick back and wait for the next month to see what comes available.

I guess I should mention it to the wife also ;)
Gar ( 66.222.127.199 ) at 4:12 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
All

Joe: That is why I sent him more than 14 bucks. Hopefully more will come in soon.

CD/Pre24 is a combo Pre/Amp and CD Player from Muical Fidelity. Here is there link.

http://www.musicalfidelity.com/ << Main Link
http://www.musicalfidelity.com/cdpdacframeset.html << Acutual unit
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 4:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Musical Fidelity

Gar: What is a CD/PRe24 ?
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 4:06 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
All

I see Byork is still a few dollars short on this years dues.
Gar ( 66.222.127.199 ) at 4:05 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Musical Fidelity

All I can say is WOW!!!!!!! I have a CD/Pre 24 and it upscales your CDs and it
does it very well, my Joseph Audio speakers never sounded better. By far one of the best units I have heard to date on music. This is a keeper. It just kicks ass!! Also my CD-Rs sound flipping awesome, time to run the Yamaha HD/CD recorder through the Dacs on this puppy. :) Oh Joy!!! ;)
Gar ( 66.222.49.18 ) at 2:01 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Curtis

Looks like Apple is really dropping there prices now. I almost fell off my chair when I saw the price of the new dual Gig machines. Lucking for me I got a great deal on my display otherwise I would be pissed to see that big of a drop so fast. I am sure there laptops will follow suit.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/166/wo/tT2l8jue9ENi2Ai9TUe1Fz07Rb2/0.3.0.3.27.25.0.1.3.1.3.1.1.0?155,57
JT ( 167.136.246.187 ) at 1:53 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Longacres

Robert: Are you still looking at houses? One of the guys I work with is getting transferred to London and will be selling his house in Longacres. If you're interested in taking a look let me know and I'll get you hooked up with him.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:33 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Ok, you asked for it ;-)

Kieran: Agreed, my PC is lacking as I don't give it much attention. I thought the ESPN/HD ad was great. Did you notice on your setup that the HD ads seemed to be a good deal clearer than the SB itself? I was watching in all 720p so maybe ABC's lack of recent game experience has something to do with it.

A dude on AVS has screenshots of the 720p SB next to CBS's 1080i HD coverage from one of the AFC playoff games. Much better detail/ shadow detail and color purity from CBS who has had a good deal of recent exp. and has turned down the edge enhancement. This HD sports coverage is still in its infancy but were getting there & I for one am enjoying the ride.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 1:20 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Ok, you asked for it ;-)

Curtis: Thanks for the procedure. I'm at work so I'll try to get to it later, maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow night. I didn't think the ESPN commercial was all that great. I did like all the movie trailers though. Already downloaded them at home.

BTW, I didn't mis-read your post... you said that your PC had trouble opening them, whereas your Mac opened them just fine. My PC opened them okay, so I was saying that YOUR PC (not your Mac) was lacking something. My PC opened the .gz files... but I opened them using Linux. ;-) Your Mac opened them just fine because Mac OS-X as you know, is just another flavor of Unix, so it probably includes a gzip reader/compresser.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003

oops - put a space after the /, before and on the elecard link
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:52 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Ok, you asked for it ;-)

Kieran: I'll rest when I'm dead! You misread my post, I had no problem decompressiong the files. Okay, here's the process. Please let me know if it works for you. The 2 best are the Matrix Reloaded and the spot for ESPN's new HD channel.

- the files on the UM site have been replaced with standard .zip files so anyone SB able to fetch them. http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~balazer/hd_ads/

- Download ZoomPlayer Software http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/. and Elecard MPEG2 Decoder Software. http://www.elecard.com/download/and install. The Zoomplayer will just unzip and you then place the folder wherever you want it to be and then launch zplayer.exe to start program. The Elecard software is a Decoder codec so it is not a software but gives Zoomplayer the ability to play HD files. Both softwares are free!

Then associate the .ts file/s with the ZoomPlayer. Then just click on the High Def file you want to play. In the case of some of these files downloaded from the UM link you will need to open the file twice as it had a subchannel (weather radar screen) and the video is on the second subchannel. When you open the file twice you then need to close the first instance of the file opened (will be the radar screen) and then you need to close the windows behind the correct video window which is another radar screen. The playback will be very jumpy until you close the second instance of the radar screen.

If someone know of another software that let you switch the subchannel easier please post it here.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 12:12 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003

Curtis: BTW, my PC decompressed them just fine also... seems your PC is lacking... ;-) It still didn't know what to do with the .ts file though.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 12:12 PM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003

Curtis: Yeah, once you've rested, do post a link to those utilities for HD playback on the PC
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 9:37 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Looking for Yamaha DVD S2300

JT: Thanks for the pointer (and thanks Gar for the earlier on)... I have passed these along.
BAGMAN ( 65.40.38.5 ) at 9:10 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003

T-Man, Ok.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 8:22 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003

Curtis: You have mail.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 7:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003

... there are shareware (PC) apps available for computer playback of these HD files that work. I'm up late, not early and will post the download sources if anyone is interested as soon as I give my brain a rest.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 6:03 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
download/ HD SB ads

Scott "popcorn": .ts=(ATSC) transport stream, as the header on that site says. My mac auto decompressed the files with some utility or other that I didn't notice the name of while it was working. My PC doesn't know what to do with them.

It sounds as if the file type is the same kind of bitstream that any HD receiver would decode into HD video with 5.1 audio. I don't have the time/energy or resources to solve it, yet it would be nice to be able to play these Super Bowl ads back on computer or HT.
Gar ( 66.222.49.227 ) at 12:25 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Looking for Yamaha DVD S2300

JT: Hey, I talked to Josh a few weeks ago, and I was interested in DVD Players but he didn't have any in yet. How do you like yours so far?
JT ( 65.30.238.18 ) at 12:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
Looking for Yamaha DVD S2300

RickMTB: I got mine from my dealer buddy. I don't know if he has more in stock, but you could check. Call Kelly at 701-492-9009 and tell him that I (Josh Taylor) told you to call.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.141.77.231 ) at 12:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 28, 2003
download/ HD SB ads

Rich F: The .gz is a gzip archive. You need gunzip (it's a common Unix thing), but I don't know what the ts is.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 10:38 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
download/ HD SB ads

Rich F: Maybe - my Mac auto decompressid the files but I think the playback requirements are all PC based. HiPix or MyHD, or software playback using WinDVD 4 & a really fast CPU (I think). That's a topic for the AVS Home Theater PC forum.

I'm sure a Sencore drive would work but who can afford one?
Tony C ( 68.72.128.189 ) at 10:23 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

cai: I made my cousin buy one of those Monster Power strips. $200 at Best Buy. I don't know how well it works, but I figured it was better than nothing.
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 10:20 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
download/ HD SB ads

Looks like a Mac unzip file.
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 10:18 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
download/ HD SB ads

Curtis: I downloaded it in 8 minutes but don't konw what to do with it. It is a ts.gz file so how does one unzip it. Is that like a targa file?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:41 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
download/ HD SB ads

A fine use of U of Michigan resources ;-) http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~balazer/hd_ads/

You'll need serious bandwidth to download them (the ESPN HD & Matrix are my favs). But how the heck do I play them back on either a PC or Mac?
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:07 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Curtis: On the way.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 9:06 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

Kieran: The one I saw demonstrated was the PowerBar. Their web page shows two models, the cheaper one costing about $200 from several retailers. The unit you show, in my opinion, will do marginal power surge protection and also marginal conditioning. From some research that I did, some time ago, the power surge protection is more that a few MOVs, that tend to decay with time without telling you that the protection has deteriorated. Check the site for TRANSTECTOR SYSTEMS, they are surge protection specialists and they also talk about power cleansing.

I still maintain that these inexpensive units may clean the power, somewhat, but, they are are not power conditioners in the strict sense of the word. Whether they are good enough for your service, the better ones of the inexpensive lot may do the trick - the PowerBar. Also, make sure that your power is indeed dirty. It seems too easy to believe that that was the problem. As you know techies will tell you that your satellite problem lies with the cabling, just because they have no idea of what is causing the problem.

This is the opinion of a non-expert, ME.

Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 8:53 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
The Phoenix open

I watched the Phoenix open in the broadcast booth with Jim Nance. What a nice guy. It was a great match with gorgeous weather. I then went to a local restaurant with TVs all over the place and saw the game. It was great if you were for TB, which I was. I have not had any issues with my Samsung other than two system freeze outs where I had to actually pull the plug to reset. Other than that, the signal pull is great and I love the way the DVI works
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:38 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Trav1: I have WinDVD but I just use it on my PC to feed the 18" LCD.
Trav1 ( 4.47.79.71 ) at 8:30 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Out of curiosity, is anyone using an htpc or at least used one for a short period of time with something along the lines of Theatertek or Windvd. I had a couple of questions regarding playback stuff.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:19 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
HD Super Bowl article

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=528&e=2&cid=528&u=/ap/20030127/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_super_bowl_hdtv
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 8:17 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

cai: Check out the link to the product I posted. They claim line conditioning... it's not "just a surge suppressor."
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 8:07 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

Kieran: I agree with AVB in that an $80 surge suppressor is not a power conditioner. A true power conditioner takes the incoming current and stores it and then sends it forth in a perfect sine wave without any noise. Those units cost a lot, are very heavy, and run hot. You may find a small dedicated unit for your 6000 unit for a couple of hundred dollars, but something to carry your whole system, with amps, subwoofers, etc. will put you into the PS Audio, Grays, or the Monster huge units.

I lie, I saw a demo at CES, of something called the Monster Power Strip that cleaned the signal. They had auditory confirmation of what was happening with the signal on A/B testing with and without the strip. I do not know how much the Power Strip costs, somehow $200 comes to mind, but it seemed to work. As a matter of fact I should also look into something like that, although I do have a nice Panamax unit.


Robert: I EVEN GOT A MONSTER T-SHIRT FOR LISTENING TO THE SALES PITCH - my only one in CES history.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:59 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

AVB: Any model recommendations?
AVB ( 64.41.33.219 ) at 7:48 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

Kieran: The Joule rating is just for surge suppresion over 1 ms and not for any power conditioning. I'd look at anything by Tripplite before Monster. JMHO
Gar ( 66.222.50.179 ) at 7:34 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Curtis

Any News of the new Zenith HD-SAT520's I heard they still have some problems. Also hat RCA is coming out with a new unit very soon. And if you haven't sold that Sony 7000 yet, let me know.
Gar ( 66.222.50.179 ) at 7:26 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Raider Fans

I see they where at it again last night. Made National news, riot if you win riot if you loose.. Duh!!!
Gar ( 66.222.50.179 ) at 7:25 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Looking for Yamaha DVD S2300

RickMTB: The Sound Professionals might have them. That is one I am currently looking at along with the new Panasonics.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 7:23 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
HD Superbowl Dropouts

Kieran, Curtis, Wild Bill, et.al: I could hardly watch the superbowl in HD because I kept losing the ABC signal. It does not seem strong enough, or is too directional for me to capture fully.

Wild Bill, do you have any problems with ABC?

One question I have is: was the broadcast done in 720p or was it in 1080i? Does it make a difference whether my Dish 6000 is tuned to 1080i instead of 720p? It just occured to me today that I never changed the setting on the 6000 unit and maybe that may have contributed to the bad reception.

Any thoughts?

Thank you.

Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:21 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

Also, the power conditioners are rated with a Joule rating... like 1665J for the entry level models. How do I calculate what my Joule requirements are based on my sistem? I can calculate the power draw of each component, based on P=I*V, but Joules are Watts * time... how does that work? what's the time aspect?
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 7:11 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Computer Problem

AVB: I will keep you abreast of developments. I just finished ordering the 120 gig drive and will transfer the information, as we discussed, as soon as it arrives in a few days.

Again, thank you for your advice.

cai

Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:07 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
clean electricity

So, according to the Dish CSR, the model 6000 hdtv receiver is very sensitive to dirty electrical lines. This may have been what started the anamolous behaviour of my 6000.

So, I'm looking for suggestions for an AFFORDABLE (read inexpensive) power conditioner or something that will clean up my power. I was looking at the Monster brand conditioner model HT800 for $80.00 msrp. I'm wondering is this basically a waste of $80, or will it do the job?
AVB ( 64.41.33.219 ) at 6:13 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Computer Problem

cai: Keep me up on what happens after you get the new drive.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 5:50 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Looking for Yamaha DVD S2300

A friend here in Houston is looking for the above... went to Tweeters but was told they didn't have any yet. Anyone know where he can get one fairly quickly??? Thanks!
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 4:00 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Robert, anyone? Pioneer 43" Plasma flat bracket

Robert: Email away. Thanks Bud!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 2:40 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

... of course Robert beat me to it!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 2:39 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Robert, anyone? Pioneer 43" Plasma flat bracket

Gasgeek: As you know you want specs on part #PDWB-5003. Try these:
Product info (800)-PIONEER
Parts/ Customer Service (800) 421-1404
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 2:38 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Robert, anyone? Pioneer 43" Plasma flat bracket

Gasgeek: Send me your fax # @ rkeeler@creativelabs.com and the info is on it's way.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:42 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Robert, anyone? Pioneer 43" Plasma flat bracket

I'm moving my wife's boss's HT that I installed a couple of years ago to a new house. I'm more of a consultant, since because of conflicts of interest, I can't use any of my usual associates for supplies or labors. (We did the huge commercial jobs at his business and he doesn't want any conflict of interest charges from his board)

His wife insisted on a 42" plasma display to replace his 46", 15 year old Mits. Didn't want a huge box in the middle of the floor. They have decided on a 43" Pioneer Elite Plasma. (great wife, huh?)

I'm looking for someplace that lists the dimensions for the flat wall bracket for the 43" for downloading so I can have my wire guy put in the knockout for Plasma wires in the walls prior to the painter. Last time we had to do the install after the custom paint job. The painter is in the new house as we speak.

Went to the Pioneer site. In their infinite wisdom, they have pictures of the bracket, but no specs. ???? Who designs this stuff?

Any help. Robert!!!!! Anyplace I can down load pictures with specs?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:33 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Super Bowl Thoughts

Kieran: Yes, that's what I'm saying. I believe I have read that they will be doing HD in several locations. Curtis? Was I dreaming? You've got me questioning myself now. I am old you know. :)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:32 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Super Bowl Thoughts

Kieran: Yes. ABC announced next seasons MNF along with the SB press release. ESPN/HD will also do HD Sunday Night games. Glad that things went okay at your place. I'm very surprised the Samsung didn't do a better job.

Robert: Folks around here aren't used to losing the big one, in fact this was the 1st time. The starting Raiders center who got sent home befor kickoff for excessive partying didn't help matters.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 12:43 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Super Bowl Thoughts

Gasgeek: Are you saying that MNF next season is going to be in HD? Has this been announced? Or did I mis-read your post?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 12:22 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Super Bowl Thoughts

Great picture and sound, but too many SB cameras switching in and out.

Where was the time clock? Never new how much time was still on the clock. Where was the yellow 1st down marker? The play clock was only punched in and out intermitantly.


I agree that ABC needs a little more practice which should come during the MNF weekly broadcasts. The SB MNF broadcasts are the best out there, so I expect ABC to quickly catch up in the HD departments. Too bad they got cheap and didn't buy the Panasonic truck a couple of years ago. Just think how good they would be by now.

Game sucked. Great defenses make for dull games, unless you love defense.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 12:14 PM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Happy Belated Wishes AVB

Hope you had a great day and have many more great years to come.

Happy Belated Birthday Buddy!
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 11:20 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Morning all - WHat happened to my Raiders - ouch

Man that was brutal to watch my Raiders take one up the tailpipe. That TB defense was too awesome !
Gar ( 66.222.49.89 ) at 11:05 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Rocket Speakers

I heard a 750 setup X 4 along with there big Center channel. Great sounding and not to bad on the check book. That being said, I am not going to give anymore of my
money to China, if I can help it. Call me old fashioned, but I will pay the extra cash to get some more Joseph Audio speakers.
Joelc ( 64.229.62.165 ) at 7:56 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Good morning gang! I know that it is a little late for me but then again... it is -22C (errrrrrrrrr -16F) here in frosty Toronto.
Joelc ( 64.229.62.165 ) at 7:52 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Good morning gang! I know that it is a little late for me but then again... it is -22C (errrrrrrrrr -16F) here in frosty Toronto.
AVB ( 64.41.32.155 ) at 6:26 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Good Morning Joel, running late today?
AVB ( 64.41.32.155 ) at 6:25 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Happy Birthday to me.

Thank you one and all for the birthday wishes. We had a small party and then retired to watch the game. During the halftime show we switched the game to the upstairs 36" and put on a movie (Ice Age) on the big screen. Not one of the better games in SB history.
AVB ( 64.41.32.155 ) at 6:19 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
More Parasound Problems

Joe:It seems that one of your speakers is having a problem. Very unusual to have a speaker short out. If you can test the speakers with another unit you may be able to narrow down what the problem is.
AVB ( 64.41.32.155 ) at 6:13 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Computer Problem

cai: Sorry about the delay but I was off line almost all day yeaterday. You should be able to use all 3 drives. One (the boot drive) would be on one channel and the other 2 on the raid channel. If your MB doesn't work that way (not all do) then you will only be able to use 2 drives in a mirrored configuration. Also, if your MB doesn't have 2 channels as described first then it is doing a mirror with the boot drive and one of your other drives.

This can get a bit much to write so email me with your phone # and a good time to call. I'm tied up until about 10 or so today.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 2:31 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
New DirecTV channels?

My Dad said that D* has three new channels between 615 and 618. He thought they may be for HD... just speculation, but does anyone know what they're for?
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 2:17 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Kieran's got HD SB cookin'

Curtis: Thanks for keeping our friends posted for me!

Turns out the venerable DTC100 pulled off a pinch hit. A few dropouts here and there, mostly during commercials though. It got worse towards the end of the game though... When the Buck's scored the second-to-last touchdown, that brought their score to 41, I lost all picture. We didn't even see the play at all... I was tearing open the box for a Samsung receiver I had as backup when the picture came back on, and we saw the score... :-( At that point the game was pretty much over though.

1/2 time show was great in HD/5.1... Sting + Gwen Stefani singing "Message in a Bottle" was the highlight of the game for me. I really enjoyed that. I'm a huge Sting fan, and Gwen's voice, while somewhat "different" if you will, has always appealed to me. Can't believe that "I'm just a girl" came out over SEVEN years ago! Yowza... Shaniah was nice to look at... and pleasant to hear too...

The game, well... Hmmm...

Anyway, since I had opened the box, I decided to hook up the Samsung SIR-T151 OTA HD tuner box and see how it compared to the DTC100. HA! What a joke. The Samsung is supposed to have one of the most sensitive OTA HD tuners on the market, great for weak signals, fringe reception, etc. It did NO BETTER than the great DTC100. Man RCA sure did something right when they made that box. Granted, it's not as good as the Dish 6000 receiver's OTA module, but still, it went nose to nose with Samsung's latest and pulled in just as many channels, and inface more really, because PBS was in&out on the DTC100, whereas the Samsung had PBS as a no-show... zero signal. Very surprising.

What's interesting is that this was all with a Channel Master 7777 signal amplifier on the antenna line. W/O the amp, the DTC100 got NADA. However, w/o the amp, the Dish 6000 was able to pull in ABC and a few other channels just fine (this was a couple weeks ago, before it died). So, the 6000 seems to be the winner here. I'm looking forward to getting the new DISH6000 box Wednesday, and seeing how it does OTA *with* the CM-7777 signal amplifier. Not that it matters, as I'm going to have to take down that antenna soon anyway.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.137.72.192 ) at 2:03 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
Computer Problem

cai: The most common two levels of RAID are 0 and 1. 1 you probably don't want. It involves having two drives of the same size, and one drive mirrors the other (the main motherboard drive is not in the equation) True, you have one "unused" drive, but that "unused" drive is a copy of the other one. If one drive fails, your data is safe on the second drive. Raid 0 is a striping method. What that means is it treats both drives as one large drive that is faster than either of the drives. It does this by splitting the files up between the two drives. Namely, one block of a file is on the first drive, the second block is on the second drive, third block is on the first drive, and so forth. This way, one drive can read the first block. As it's lining up for the third block, the other drive is already getting the second block, then it lines up for the fourth block as the first drive reads the third block, and so forth. If you are doing very intensive data operations, like video editing, this is a good choice. Otherwise, I would avoid it, since it is more complex than just using two drives. Make sure your BIOS is set to the right setting for the RAID controller. Either RAID disabled, or RAID 0 (if this is the type of storage you want to use). Note, changing the RAID setting will probably require you to wipe your hard drives that are attached to the RAID controller. I am unsure if the drives have to be the same size for RAID 0.

After all that, I do not know if the RAID setup is your problem. It *could* be, but I feel that's a pretty weak possibility.
Joe ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 12:25 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Well I am bored. It's to late to put in a movie. I was surfing and I see Le Femme Nikita season one is coming out on DVD.
Gar ( 66.222.49.33 ) at 12:17 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003

Joe: I agree, that was one of the worst games I have seen in years. But if your a Bucks fan I am sure it was great. The Commercials where very good. Also Alias was awesome tonight.
Joe ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 12:06 AM EST Monday, January 27, 2003
HD

I watched Alias tonight for the first time since the second eposde. That looks like a good reason for HDTV
Curtis ( 12.234.117.140 ) at 10:09 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
ad for new ESPN/HD channel

Great ad in HD, in fact better produced than the game itself as ABC needs a lot more work to catch up with CBS's HD sports productions.

Irony is that is was not shown on the SD broadcast.
Joe ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 9:03 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Well another sucky superbowl. On Tuesday the Wings play again. Brett Hull is only one goal away from 700, that will be cool. I think that puts him about 6th on the all time list.
Curtis ( 12.234.117.140 ) at 9:03 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Super? bowl

Tony C: If you can receive your local OTA PBS digital check it out. All dat has been HD stuff out here.
Curtis ( 12.234.117.140 ) at 9:01 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

cai: No, I think you got the whole game pegged. Oakland looks positively dull & Tampa found their offense. There may be the predicted riots in the East Bay tonight - but for a different reason than predicted.
BAGMAN ( 65.40.38.5 ) at 8:58 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

cai: Think they have the second half too.
Tony C ( 68.72.125.215 ) at 8:58 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Super? bowl

At this point, I'm watching only for the commercials.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 8:31 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AVB
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 8:28 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

TAMPA BAY WINS

the first half.
Curtis ( 12.234.117.140 ) at 6:28 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Kieran's got HD SB cookin'

In case you guys were concerned, I talked with K a minute ago. His Dad's DTC100 is doing the job so his guests should be oohing & ahing right about now. Damn the picture and sound on this broadcast are great. Enjoy it and go Raiders (what's up with the pro-Tampa croud?)
BAGMAN ( 65.40.38.5 ) at 5:56 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Old timer and a game

Here's to AVB and the game, may the day turn out super for both!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.5 ) at 5:12 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

sorry Jrff, I mean Jeff!
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.5 ) at 5:11 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Tony C; I've dealt with almost every cell company. Every one has horrible customer service. Cingular is the worst with Sprint a close second. Verizon is one of the best, but that isn't saying much.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.5 ) at 5:07 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Curtis, Tony C, joelc; Thanks guys.
AVB; Happy B-Day!! I'll shut down a few electrical items around 4 PM so you'll have enough juice for the party. :-)
Jrff S.; Happy belated B-Day! Hope it was a good one!
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 4:18 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
I hate Sprint

Tony C: Howsabout Cigular customer services... I needed a copy of my statement from 3 months ago (for the company AP folks, the bill was already paid). I called Cingular customer services, asked for the statement to be faxed or emailed to me. First guy I spoke with said he couldn't fax the entire statement but could fax the first sheet and send the entire statement. I waited four hours, and since I didn't receive the fax I called Customer Service again, spoke with CS person #2 (guessing the fax was picked up by someone else). That person said they can't fax things, but if I went to a local Cingular store they could print out the statement for me at the store. Found a store, left work and drove over there. After 15 minutes waiting for someone to help me, I find out they can't print out statements (somehow their SW doesn't allow them to do so) and the store person was irked at the CS person #2 for sending people to the store. They called Cingular customer service for me and I spoke with CS person #3 who repeated the "can't fax it" to me while the store person then piped in complaining about someone sending me to the store. Since I was getting frustrated, I asked to speak with a manager. The CS person #3 left to get a manager, but CS person #3 came back a few minutes later saying her manager said they can't fax due to an Act of Congress (tm). I said I can understand concerns ver privacy but all I wanted was the first page (that doesn't list phone numbers) so any Act of Congress shouldn't apply. Back she went to talk again to "the manager". Manager #1 gets on the phone, and I counter with store employee #1, and after a ten minute discussion I finally got a fax of the first page faxed to the store.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 3:34 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Joe: Way too many variables for me to help you out., unless I could interest you in freeing up 3 amped channels/passive speakers buy replacing them with 3 x Paradigm Refrence Active 450's that just happen to be available for sale ;-)

I know, I'm bad. Good luck getting things back to normal.
Joe ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 1:57 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

It seems that the paradigms are the problem. AS long as only one is hooked up the amp runs. HOwever when both were hooked up on channels 1&2 only channel on was kicking out.

When both where hooked up on channles 2&3 all channles where kicking on and off.
Joe ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 1:51 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
More Parasound Problems

Afternoon all

First let me lay the background information Anthem AVM-20 feeding Parasound HCA-885. Zone 3 Master Bathroom, Niles CM-77 8ohm speakers. Zone 2 Master Bedroom Paradigm HRS-150 6Ohm speakers. Speaker wire Belden 14/4, Red, Black, Whire, Green.

Parasound channels 4&5 feeding zone 3 NIles 8 ohm speakers red and green are positive colors. Channels 1& 2 feeding zone 2 Paradigm 6 ohm speakers red and green postive. Channel 3 not used.

Channel started kicking out the protection circuit. This is the Green and White feed speaker. I pulled the wire and checked for strays and cross connection nothing. I then left it unplugged and turned the amp on, it did not kick out the protection.

I then hooked the other speaker (paradigm) up to channel 1, red and black turned on the amp and it worked fine. The suspect wires white and green are still unconnected.

I then hooked up the green and white to channel 2 and turned the amp on, with the blcak and red disconnected, no problem. So I hooked up all channels and it srted kicking out again.

I then said screw channel 1 and hooked up the red and black to channel 3 and the green and whiote to channel 2. All the circuits srted kicking out then. I pulled the black and red from channel 3 and it worked fine.

Not giving in yet, I plugged the black into the negative on channel 3 and the amp stayed on. AS soon as I touched the red to the positve the whole amp was kicking off and on.

I am stumped. I never have problems with the bathroom zone. The setup worked for months without a problem. I am open for sugestons
Joelc ( 64.229.62.19 ) at 1:40 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

AVB: Happy birthday my friend! I hope that for you that all your wishes come true! Have a great one!

BIG AL: Hope that you get better soon. Being sick is a bitch!
Gar ( 66.222.126.51 ) at 1:21 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
AVB

A big Happy Birthday to you !!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:55 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
HD programing

Tony C: Shamelessly cut & pasted frfom another forum...

"Here is some official information direct from ABC:

- The pre & post game programs will not be in HDTV.
- The number of HDTV cameras used will be between 7 & 12. Technical arrangements are still being finalized in this area.
- The half time show will be in HDTV.

...and what the heck, one more time, the HDTV will have DD 5.1. Hey, here's one: I'm thinking No Doubt, Shania & Sting will be big fun in 5.1!"

Re: Sprint. I couldn't agree with you more as a longtime suffering customer of theirs. Did you know that they charge you $5 for making a payment in person at their brick & mortar stores?
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 12:49 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Short worthwhile read on HDTV sets

AVB: Actually, I think the entire thread is worthwhile... lots of great posts by very knowledgeable ISF calibrationists.
Tony C ( 68.72.125.215 ) at 12:25 PM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
I hate Sprint

Of all the customer services you may encounter, none could be worse than Sprint. I got my kid a new phone for his birthday. I wanted it activated today because it's surprise and I didn't want him to be left w/o a phone.

I tried to do it on line. On line, they can't understand what phone number I want to change. So I call. I wait over 20 minutes to get someone on the phone. Then he begins to help. He keeps coming back saying that it will just be another 5 to 7 minutes. No problem, I want it done. Then he comes back after 45 min to tell me that it has to be down 24 hours from now. Not 24 hours from when I called an hour ago.

I know that when I call back tomorrow, it will be like nothing ever happened. I know it's Sunday, but geez, don't waiste my time.
Tony C ( 68.72.125.215 ) at 11:48 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
HD programing

Curtis: First congratulations on your small victory. I know you know this (as I'm sure many others here do). Where can I find HD programing? And is the Superbowl pre-game show in HD?
Tony C ( 68.72.125.215 ) at 11:47 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Happy Birthday AVB

AVB: We are celebrating a birthday at my house today as well. My now 17 yr old was born 1/26/85. The day the Bears won the Superbowl. I went out and bought everything I could with that date on it and have it locked away for him.

Have a great day.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 11:45 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Short worthwhile read on HDTV sets

AVB: My eyes have always preferred 720p over 1080i but I couldn't put my finger on the reasons. That thread explained a great deal of it. I suspect both of my former HDRPs couldn't fully resolve 1080i. You may have noticed that one of the few items not on my for sale list is the Sampo 34" display that does true 720p. With the SB being shot/ aired and the Zenith STB able to deliver to the display all in 720p I am looking forward to the game today.

cai: In my exp. with SCSI RAIDS I was able to fool the computer into thinking different size drives were the same by partitioning them so. Didn't matter if it was a PC, Mac or Unix box. No idea if this helps you out. As my engineer pals remind me ... I know just enough to be dangerous!

BC: Man that takes me way back. Please send Mark my best.
Derb ( 209.244.117.24 ) at 11:20 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
B-Day

Happy B-Day AVB
Derb ( 209.244.117.24 ) at 11:11 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
OT (new pedals) and RonH and Derb

RickMTB: Sounds good next Saturday Feb1 @ 1:00 pm, I'm not coming anywhere near your shoes or pedals, your on your own on that one I'm afraid.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:30 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Happy Birthday

AVBHave a great B-Day!!!!:
Joe ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 10:25 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Good Morning all
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 10:16 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Computer Problem

AVB: Something you said spark my curiosity, so I went back and read the instructions for the installation of a RAID array. What I want is to support two hard drives for storage, besides the hard drive where the operating system is installed. I was told that RAID would provide that. However, from your question and from reading the manual, all that RAID does is mirror an equal sized drive. I have several questions for you and or any of the other computer savy people on the forum:

1) What drives must be the same size? The two on the RAID connection, or one of the RAID and the one with the operating system. I think the book says that it is the two on RAID, but it is not clear about which drive is being mirrored - one of the RAID drives or the operating system drive.

2) Should the operating system be on one of the RAID drives?

3) If I have two RAID drives and one regular motherboard drive, and RAID is using one of the two drives to mirror the other one, do I in essence have a non usable drive? That is, in terms or storing things into the one that is doing the mirroring.

4) In order to have one smaller drive with the operating system and two big hard drives for storage, what would be the optimal configuration? How should I connect these to the motherboard? Is RAID useless in this application?

Long post, but I would appreciate any answer.

Thank you.

BC ( 67.234.6.219 ) at 9:44 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Small world

Here in Dallas, we have put together a forum and have get together's and stuff every now and then (Dallas Home Theater Group) A local guy here in Dallas emailed me last week about ordering him a Richard Gray 600. I did and when I met him to deliver it, he said he knew me from the HTOC also. I didn't know anybody in Dallas also knew of this little site.
He used to live in St. Louis and has read the site since it was the HT mag site. He said he doesn't post due to being busy with work but does read every now and then. Anyway, just thought it was cool to meet another person from this site!
His name is Mark Kaner. Curtis, you may remember him also, he said he has talked to you before.

Happy Birthday AVB.

Gar, Sorry I didn't get a chance to call you, work was extremely hectic thursday and friday. I'll give you a shout next week.
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 9:38 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday AVB......
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 8:56 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
OT (new pedals) and RonH and Derb

Ron: Great... hope you are feeling better. I am getting more and more anxious to see what we will be able to do to make the new room config work for HT...
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 8:55 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
OT (new pedals) and RonH and Derb

Kieran: To a certain degree, yes, I was saving the new shoes for the new pedals (and cleats). The only pedals (my MTB pedals, Time ATACs) use a different cleat bolt pattern and I didn't want to subject the carbon soles on the new shoes (Pearl Izumi Vapors) to the different bolt pattern. But a bigger reason was I hadn't intended to wait so long, so I figured I would simply use my MTB shoes for the "short" period of time it would take to get the new pedals (little did I know it would be 6-7 months).

Kept going back and forth between Speedplays and Looks (one reason for the long delay) but ultimately decided the biggest Speedplay benefit (float) wasn't that big of a benefit since my MTB pedals offers 7 degrees and even with the Looks (that offer 0, 3, 6, and 9 degrees) most folks opt for 6 or less since with the 9 degree setting most people's feet hit the crank. I liked the big stable platform on the Looks and the simpler, cheaper cleat. Add to that the big difference in price ($160 vs $99). I know either would work great though. Actually, the newest Shimano (Look-like) design is getting raves now... except its even more expensive.
AVB ( 64.41.32.150 ) at 8:40 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Short worthwhile read on HDTV sets

Read the 4th post down by David Abrams. http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119696
AVB ( 64.41.32.150 ) at 6:53 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Birthday

Thanks for all the birthday wishes, I knew there was a reason everybody was partying today :>). A little scotch, some cigars, T-bones and then the party atarts at 4.
AVB ( 64.41.32.150 ) at 6:50 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Yep, I was busy this morning otherwise I would have been earlier. Good Morning everyone.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 6:09 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

I'm sure Joel or AVB will be posting any minute now...
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 6:08 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Good night all... er, make that good morning. But I'm going to sleep now. :P
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 6:08 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Unreal Tournament 2003

Picked up this game today. Gar, don't throw away that PC just yet. This game is very much like the original UT, but the graphics are mind-blowing... it is, in a word... UNREAL! ;-)

Splinter Cell apparently uses the same graphics engine, but UT2003 looks better than Splinter Cell, IMHO.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 6:06 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

CURTIS: got your email. Thanks... check your inbox, and/or give me a call in the morning (I'll need SOMEONE to wake me up!) ;-P
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 6:05 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AVB!!!!!!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 2:11 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
I caused the local paper to print a HD retraction

It's the little victories. Thursday's San Jose Mercury News ran a front Buisness page article on big screens/ HDTV here: http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/5011957.htm

One huge error was this "...Another factor boosting big-screen sales this year is the fact that it will be the first year the Super Bowl will be broadcast in high-definition, equipped by many big-screens. The HDTV format provides dramatically crisper picture quality."

Hello? ABC did the 2000 SB (720p) and CBS did the 2001 (1080i). Last years Faux doesn't count of course. I politely emailed this info including press releases announcing those broadcasts to the reporter. He replied that his sources were certain that I was wrong. I never heard back from the reporter

In today's paper I read the following in their "Setting the Record Straight" section that nobody reads, of course...
=============================================================
An article Thursday in the Business section about Super Bowl fans buying big-screen TVs incorrectly stated the number of times the Super Bowl has been broadcast in high-definition format. The 2000 and 2001 Super Bowls were broadcast in high-definition.
=============================================================
I hope it goes on their performance appraisal. Didn't hurt that I was in the mood for a (polite) fight ;-)
Jeff S. ( 12.64.102.84 ) at 1:44 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Thanks for the birthday wish Bagman and Happy Birthday AVB!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:13 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
AVB turns 31!

You wish ;-) Have a great one.
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 1:11 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AVB!
Tony C ( 68.23.107.13 ) at 1:07 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

BIG AL: this getting old stuff is a bitch, aint it?
You're not too far away. If you need help settin something up, let me know. I've driven further for less.
Tony C ( 68.23.107.13 ) at 12:40 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003
Tosh problems

There is quite a long thread on the Home Theater Spot regarding the same problem I am having with my Toshiba Tv.
I'm hoping that the tech's second visit will prove to be a little more helpful. I will be calling back Monday.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:33 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

BIG AL: Any of us would have good reason to complain LOUDLY about something as serious as our health. Here's hoping that '03 brings you good things, as I'm sure all your other friends here would agree.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:24 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Ron/TonyC/simm: mail coming - thanks
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.52 ) at 12:12 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

sorry guys. I'm done whining now.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.52 ) at 12:12 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Hard to believe 10 years ago I was a "perfect physical specimen", according to my doctor. Every test he could throw at me, I was in the optimum range. Now the only medical test I can pass, is the "bill payment" test, and I just squeak by on that. It must be payback time.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.52 ) at 12:02 AM EST Sunday, January 26, 2003

Gar; Things are piling up fast. The house needs attention, my HT needs attention, my vehicles need attention, my pets need attention, and my wife REALLY needs attention. Meanwhile my body demands attention, which takes up 100% of my time. The stress, and drugs have taken their toll on my immune system, so I'm sick again. A couple new physical problems have popped up too. Hopefully this isn't a trend for '03. Enough is enough! :-(
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 11:28 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Dish problems...

Well the box is now competely DEAD. I'm getting a new one... should be here Wednesday. Here's hoping the DTC100 works for tomorrow's game... else I'm going to be making a lot of phone calls in the morning cancelling my party!
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:34 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
OT (new pedals) and RonH and Derb

RickMTB: Saturday works for me.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 8:59 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
OT (new pedals) and RonH and Derb

RickMTB: Why couldn't you use the road shoes w/ your old pedals? Just wanted to save the soles for new cleats? Also, what shoes did you get? I have Sidi Genius4's and love'em. Personally, I don't care for Look pedals, I use Speedplay X2's. But those Looks are nice pedals.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 7:22 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
OT (new pedals) and RonH and Derb

Woohoo... finally got new pedals for my road bike... Look pp396. So I finally get to use my new road shoes that I got back in July.

Speaking of moving furniture and salvaging my HT... Ron H and Derb, are we still on for Saturday at 1pm on???
BAGMAN ( 64.45.224.74 ) at 6:55 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003

JeffS, Have a good one!
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 5:26 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003

Curtis: My msnaccount is down so I can not look at earlier emails at thois time. Would you send me email to my ronh@wt.net account.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 3:28 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003

Gar: My family in MN have been complaining about the BROWN winter, too. It's been too cold to snow... as cold as it is, it is probably a relatively high pressure system, so precipitation can't happen, until the pressure drops. Ironically this will most likely coincide with a temperature increase.
Gar ( 66.222.49.11 ) at 1:56 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003

BIG AL: Why is that? Hopefully your still not sick, that would suck. The temps here are finally getting back to normal. What is wierd there still is no snow which is unheard of here.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.80 ) at 1:48 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003

please let January end! This month sucks, and I can't take much more!
Gar ( 66.222.49.11 ) at 1:37 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Computer Problem

Cai, PC user for years here, and frankly I haven't had any software or hardware issues yet with my MAC, then again I have had it only 5 months now. But everytime I bought a PC or made one, I always had software issues or hardware ones with in the first weeks and ongoing after that. Easy sometimes is better :)
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 1:23 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Computer Problem

AVB: The RAID connections are in the motherboard and they are EIDE or IDE. In other words not SCSI. I am not running mirror configurations, but the two internal storage drives using the RAID connection.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 12:37 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Plasma TV buying guide

Curtis, here's a good resource for info on plasma monitors and TVs...
http://plasmatvbuyingguide.com/index.html
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 12:13 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Quadrants, and the cross product (aka vectormultiplication)

cai: Thanks for thinking about my 6000 problem. I've already tried removing the 8psk module and while it seemed to be the source of the problem, it now seems that's not the case. The 6000 is doing all sorts of weird stuff, even w/o the 8psk installed. I may have to resort to the dtc100... :-(

Re. the cartesian plane. I know we were talking about a 2d plane... thus the term "Cartesian PLANE." Just because 2 variable algebra only addresses two variables, doesn't mean that z is not still there. It is just not active... We count the quadrants counter-clockwise starting from the x-axis for the same reason we count degrees and radians counter clockwise starting from the x-axis... and the right hand rule is the way to remember it. That's all.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:09 PM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Computer Problem

cai: NO, I WILL NOT BUY AN APPLE AND NO, I WILL NOT USE BEOS.

LOL! Go ahead, do it the hard way ;-)
AVB ( 64.41.32.164 ) at 11:24 AM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Computer Problem

cai: Are you saying you have an external raid card? SCSI? Are you doing a mirror config? I run raid but it is a seperate SCSI card but I don't listen to IR or IM.
Tony C ( 67.248.80.241 ) at 9:57 AM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
My Dish 6000 problems

Kieran: weird story. I had a problem with my friends Hughes box. Well not really. We couldn't get HD Net. Not matter what we tried and we were getting 95 signal strength on each sat. They even sent a new card out to see if that was the problem.
It turned out to be the disc needed to be moved. He paid for a tech to come out, $100. The guy moved the dish 20 feet south and bam! HD net. My freind just bought the expensive OTA that attaches on to the dish itself so he could pick up local channels. Hope it works for him.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 9:48 AM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Computer Problem

I have an ASUS motherboard with RAID, an AMD 2200 chip. I am running two hard drives off the RAID - masters both, and one hard drive off the regular motherboard connection. This last smaller drive is where all the programs reside, the other two hard drives are used for storage. I am also running with 1 gig of memory. This board has an integrated sound card.

The problem is that when I am listening to a CD, live internet radio, or viewing internet movies, I get an interruption, a purring sound, about every 30 to 45 seconds. The action stops, the computer purrs and then continues. Someone thought that it might be the buffer on the Microsoft Media Player, but that was increased to 60 and the problem is still with me.

Could this be a bad motherboard? Is there something in the configuration of the drives that I should know? Would a pentium board and processor work better for editing movies?

NO, I WILL NOT BUY AN APPLE AND NO, I WILL NOT USE BEOS.

Thank you.

cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 9:35 AM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Quadrants, and the cross product (aka vectormultiplication)

Kieran: Preaching to the choir. This is what I was speaking about. However, you forgot the fact that you are dealing in a two dimensional system and the right hand rule is three dimensional. That was all I was saying.

MORE IMPORTANT STUFF. Just dawned on me when I woke up this morning, pun intended. Do not fret your superbowl HD signal acquisition problem. The 6000 uses the 8PSV to convert over the air signals and the 8PSK exclusively for the Discovery channel, for now. Do the test by taking the 8PSK out and see if you can get ABC.

AVB ( 64.41.33.47 ) at 8:30 AM EST Saturday, January 25, 2003
Bay Area Speaker Buy

A steal at $4,800 asking and maybe will go for even less.
http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?spkrfull&1048464933
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 11:19 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Opps I forgot the E
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 11:19 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Shryl Crow and KId Rock

Remember a few months ago I was asking about the song they did together? Well they are on Leno tonight performing it. I do not usally watch Leno, however I am going to tape this one.

I can hear it now
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 10:28 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Uhh... that last one was meant to be addressed to ROBERT!!!
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 10:27 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Listening to Creative Labs

Someone in your marketing dept. got it wrong. I just saw this add in PC mag for the Audigy 24bit HD card. The caption reads, "I used to hear my PC -- NOW I LISTEN TO IT... with Sound Blaster 24-bit Advanced HD."

I think the Hendrix quote goes, "you may listen to Jimmy, but you don't HEAR Jimmy." Either way, I think (not that what I think matters) that the Audigy add would read better if it said, "I used to Listen to my PC -- NOW I HEAR IT!" IOW, I used to have to strain "actively listen" to my PC to get anything from it... now I hear it with no effort!

To whom in your marketing dept. should I send my resume? ;-) Kidding...
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 10:01 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Quadrants, and the cross product (aka vector multiplication)

cai: The right hand rule applies to WAY more than magnetic flux and tightening bolts. The right hand rule is actually the way to determine the sense (direction) of the resultant vector of a cross product of two vectors. +x X +y (x cross y) is +z. (likewise -x X y is -z, -x X -y is +x, -y X +z is -x and so forth) This is the reason that we count degrees and radians in the counterclockwise direction when using the Cartesian plain. However, the right hand rule applies to any two vectors that are cross multiplied, not just the x,y,z axes (aka i,j,k vectors). This is used all the time in mechanics (statics & dynamics) where all sorts of moments (torques) and forces are cross multiplied all over the place. In fact, torque is the cross product of a force and a distance vector. The sense of the torque will always be perpendicular to the plane created by the force and the lever arm (moment arm), and the direction of the torque vector will follow the right hand rule. This is actually why a right-hand threaded screw goes IN when you twist it clockwise with your right hand... the direction of the torque vector is the direction of your right thumb as you grip and turn a screw with your right hand. Also, because Torque is a cross product of force and distance (lever arm length) the term "pound-feet" of torque is actually a misnomer, or incorrect, or whatever. The formula for Torque is R x F = T. The cross product is NOT commutative, IOW, RxF is not equal to FxR, unlike normal "scalar" multiplication. (Take the Cartesian axes again... X x Y = Z. But, Y x X = -Z!!! Try it with the right hand rule to proove that to yourself if you wnat.) So, the proper term for the units of torque is always with the length unit first, as in "foot-pounds" "inch-ounces" etc. It's not a big deal though, as almost EVERYONE (engineers included) who uses the metric system, says "Newton-meters" for torque, not "meter-Newtons." This is probably because it rolls off the tongue easier or something... So, whatever. :-)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:34 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Williams sisters going for Aussie Open title now

It's on ESPN. Wanna bet little sis wins again?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:17 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
For those of you who may be projector shopping

AVB: Wow - that's $1K less than I was getting my 9000 for until Adrian Alexander ripped me off ... avoid him like the plague folks, formerly of Fusion Media annd and Advanced Audio/Video in Utah. The guy was legit - then he shut down taking many thousand$ from people with orders in. I hope he can't sleep nights.

Sounds like Sharp is dumping these to clear the shelves for the 2nd generation 10000 models. A wonderful FP DLP (funny that was never mentioned) at a great price. Go for it.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:06 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
My Dish 6000 problems

Kieran: Sheeit man - that thing was brand new. You're welcome to use my OTA only Zenith STB as a backup backup to your Dad's DTC for the SB if you wish. It's supposed to have an ultra-sensative tuner.
AVB ( 64.41.33.254 ) at 8:43 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
For those of you who may be projector shopping

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Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:03 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
This is funny

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030124_1796.html
AVB ( 64.41.33.254 ) at 7:54 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Betting on the Super Bowl

I put a couple of bucks down on the Super Bowl but I never knew that there was over 100 lines you could bet on. Go to http://www.intertops.com/sportsbook/cgi-win-2/itwww.exe? and then click on American Football on the Hit List.

Some of theses bets are really strange like "Simply select whether you think the Buccaneers' total points at the Superbowl will be higher than Herman Maier's position in Saturday's downhill race from Kitzbuehel. Overtime does not count, Maier must start the race for action."
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.58.52.31 ) at 7:30 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Quadrants

cai: Actually, I thought north was 0 degrees... east is 90... south is 180, and west is 270.
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.58.52.31 ) at 7:27 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Kieran: Dang... at least I got the odd-numbered quads right :P
Wild Bill ( 12.92.113.206 ) at 7:25 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Another Prepro

cai: Okay, now I understand. I did get your package. Thank you very much!!

Personally, I think the rep was bs'ing you. As I said, I haven't seen any electronics that approach a 50 point margin and many things (such as RPTV's and mainstream DVD players) are much lower.
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.58.52.31 ) at 7:22 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Joe: +x +y is quadrant 1, +x -y is quad 2, -x-y is quad 3, and -x+y is quad 4.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 7:17 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Quadrants

Kieran and Joe: I agree with Kieran that you count the quadrants counterclockwise. East is 0 or 360 degrees, north is 90 degrees, west is 180 degrees, and south is 270 degrees.

However, since we are dealing in a two dimensional plane, I do not think that the right hand rule applies. The right hand rule applies to vectors, for getting the direction of magnetic flux (vector again), and a simple means of knowing which way the bolt will travel when you turn it. Note that the nut will travel in the opposite direction.

Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:54 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Looks like I am buying pizza. Now that I see it it comes back to me.
AVB ( 64.41.33.254 ) at 6:43 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Joe: God I feel like an idiot. Here is a webpage proof if you need it. http://www.math.utah.edu/online/1010/coord/
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:41 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

The conversation get serious when the one person siding with me said to the other person, " You from Kettering not a real school" Then it was So you think MSU is a real school.

I had to stand back and watch the show after that.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:39 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Kieran

You don't tell that joke to girls do you :)
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:38 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

stored
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 6:38 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Joe: Just remember the right hand rule, and you don't need the text! ;-) Speaking of the right hand rule... here's a really bad engineer's joke for you:

What do you get if you cross an Elephant with a Giraffe?
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Wait for it...
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"Elephant,Giraffe, sine theta."

BOOOOO! HISSS! ;-)
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:35 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Kieran: I knew you would show up sooner or later. Here in Michigan everyones books are stord in the attic. None of us wanted to go into that icebox to get a text :)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 6:17 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Joe: The Cartesian coordinate system quadrants are counted COUNTER-clockwise.

Quadrant I : +x,+y
Quadrant II : -x,+y
Quadrant III : -x,-y
Quadrant IV : +x,=y

Joe, just remember your right-hand rule... place your right hand with your fingers extending out along the x-axis, and your thumb pointing out of the page (z axis) your fingers will curl in the direction of the y axis, which is counter-clockwise.

Class dismissed... ;-)

Reference (incase you need it for the bet)...
Chapter 1, section 1.1, page 7
_Trigonometry: A Modern Approach_ Second ed., Elich, Elich, and Cannon.
Copywrite 1985, by Addison-Wesley.

See... there's a reason we Engineers keep our text books handy. ;-)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 6:08 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
My Dish 6000 problems

Rather than waste our bandwidth here... I'll post a link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217989

I'd appreciate any input anyone might have.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 5:42 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
HD toothgap coming in Sept - Letterman

Curtis: Thats good to hear. I never miss Dave of course I have to tape him to see it.
AVB ( 64.41.32.132 ) at 3:55 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Joe: I'll agree with Derb, Clockwise.
Derb ( 207.70.162.160 ) at 3:51 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Joe: I say clockwise with quad. 4 having -x +y
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 3:45 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
HD toothgap coming in Sept - Letterman

CBS announced that The Late Show will go HD this fall. I don't want to see how ugly Dave is so much as the parade of actresses. Bob Ross of CBS ops says the Sept. date could be a bit soft as they have to keep doing daily SD production while they build out the HD facility. HD cameras are already in place but that's the easy part. By then there should be some inexpensive HD recorders available so we don't miss too much sleep
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 3:40 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
AVB-Tony

AVB, The lonesome Dove is 3 LDs

Tony Send me your address
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 3:39 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Afternoon all

Another long evening ahead at work. Here is an question,we are all disagreeing on. Looking at a circle with an "X" and "Y" axis. How do you count the quadents? A few of us say you start clockwise 1,2,3,4 a few say you start counterclockwise.

So the negative X and Positve Y is in the 1st or 4th quadent? There is a large pizza riding on this one :)
AVB ( 64.41.32.132 ) at 1:50 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Dealer Markup

cai: The norm in the business is 40 points but there is some leeway on that to either side. Many many years ago I think McIntosh only gave us 35%....maybe it was Crown though. Anyway, it is cheaper to sell things you don't stock because you don't have any costs associated with it. No warehousing, no loading/unloading, no display space etc etc. A 20% markdown on an item that is not stocked means that the store is going to make 18% (shipping cost of 2%) just by making a phone call and that ain't too bad.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:42 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
A Raiders IPO? Just buy it, baby

The Raiders are a great team but they have a long history of milking their fans $ Check out this very funny article appeared in yesterdays SJ Mercury;

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/columnists/scott_herhold/5011262.htm
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:33 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
42" plasmas

RickMTB: Thanks - I was thinking along those product lines as well. I had a 50" Pioneer plasma in my HT for a few months last year and it was really hard to let it go when the friend I got it for finished her new house. With HD material it made the 57" Tosh RP look almost fuzzy next to it. For everything else it begged for a good scaler.
Derb ( 207.70.162.160 ) at 12:56 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
X10 ??

I know the x10 stuff works off my in-house electrical wiring. My questions is how do I get a dimmer to work for lights or 12 volt trigger. From what little I know, I think you can use a progammable remote to send an IR signal to a reciever, that then controls the device. My remote is a Proton that has computer docking station and can run macros. Only it is maxed out as far as componenets that can be controlled. I could get rid of the casette deck and free up a space. Do I need a dedicated space on my remote for x10 or can I get buy someother way, like linking it ro the same IR code as say for example, the play button on a DVD player.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:30 PM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Tony C: You're my top salesdude! email ccoming. Tks
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 11:12 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Another Prepro

Wild Bill: The idea of becoming a dealer and getting the equipment at 50% of retail was meant for those that could become dealers. I am aware of some of the qualifications needed to become an equipment line dealer and as far as I know you are probably the only one in this forum that could qualify. I surmise that when you say you have this or that line that you are a dealer for them.

Regarding the 50% mark-up, that came from the manufacturing representative himself. I did not make it up, nor would I have any reason to doubt that what he said in passing was very far from the truth. We were talking about prices and comparisons to other equipment that I wanted to buy and he made the remark. Whether it is a true 50% or not I do not know, buy I think it would be close. I do know that some store in our area would give you a 20% discount if they do not have the equipment present for display or demo. Are they making 10%, 20%, or 30% on the final sale price, who knows.

Given the above, why do you think I mailed you the information.

Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 9:58 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Gar: I will sell the ML if the price is right but not in a rush.
BYork ( 204.151.114.9 ) at 9:44 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Website Outage Next Tuesday

All - Just so you know ahead of time...our ISP is going to be installing patches to the Solaris server we're hosted on next Tuesday (Jan. 28) at 10PM EDT. They're estimating (!!) the outage will be 10 minutes...
Joelc ( 216.223.140.14 ) at 9:18 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Morning gang!
AVB ( 64.41.32.132 ) at 6:24 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Sony FP guys

Tony C: My Digital Leeza takes only BNC connectors so there are adapters available. If you have the cable ran already I'd use it.
AVB ( 64.41.32.132 ) at 5:34 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Morning all
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.56.34.11 ) at 1:45 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Sony FP guys

Tony C: Probably the best thing to do is use the 10 BNC cables and get adapters... you can get BNC to RCA adapters at Rat Shack... I think somewhere they have S-video adapters too (uses two BNC to one S-Video)
RickMTB ( 199.107.156.109 ) at 1:19 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
42" plasmas

Curtis: The NEC gets raves and I think the Hitachi should be good too but I just saw the Sony vs the Panasonics vs the Fujitsu vs the Pioneer and I thought the Pioneer looked the best of those I compared. It is telling that Pioneer charges a much bigger delta on the Elites on other display types than they do on the plasmas... and to be honest, I couldn't see a difference (except the frame is prettier).
Tony C ( 68.23.41.58 ) at 12:41 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Curtis: While at my cousin's I pretty much talked him into the Zenith HD receiver. Send me an email with a price.
Tony C ( 68.23.41.58 ) at 12:35 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003
Sony FP guys

When Tweeter set up my cousins FP, they ran a snake with 10 BMC connectors. They used the component cable and S cable that I had already run but left theirs hanging.

Where are the inputs for the BMC connectors as I only saw the inputs on the side of the machine. ORRRR, are you supposed to use adaptors and run them into those two inputs? Do you just buy BNC to RCA adaptors?
Tony C ( 68.23.41.58 ) at 12:33 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

I just got back from my cousin's house, the room that I've been working on since last April. He had his Sony 11HT and Grey Hawk screen installed by Tweeter and finally bought some speakers. So I went over to install the speakers...Klipsh Reference...and my old SVS sub.

The picture on the 11HT was unbelievable. Really. I mean you see them in a show room and it's cool but to see it in a house. wow.
And I have to say that those guys did a great job of setting it up.

I have to go back tomorrow to set the speakers up right using a SP meter and stuff, but just running it with minor adjustments the room sounded great. Especially the sub.
Gar ( 66.222.126.36 ) at 12:14 AM EST Friday, January 24, 2003

Ron: So are you going to sell these or keep them for Music and use the Rockets for HT or both? I would like to find someone locally and see if they have some I could listen to. At those prices one could get a killer HT setup for about 3rd the cost.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 11:39 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Gar: Yep still have the MLs
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 11:09 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Compaq
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 11:08 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Music from youth

I have a little rush going now, a home made CD. It starts with a few songs from A Farewell to Kings. Of course the high quality Compag CPU speaker does not do much for it.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 11:05 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

evening all

I am still at work. I came in this morning near lunchtime on 1st shift. I worked all of 2nd. Now I have a few hours on 3rd tonight. My dawgs are screaming to get these boots off!
AVB ( 64.41.33.165 ) at 10:19 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
music from my youth

simm: I have Offering too. I hope the CD is recorded at a higher level then the LP was. You really had to crank that just to make it normal loud.
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 10:17 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
music from my youth

AVB: YOU ARE THE MAN!!!! I will send you a reminder next week. I haven't heard it in years and as I was looking at some new CD releases that just came out I saw another of my old favorites "Offering" by Axe was being released on CD for the first time and it made me think of Nantucket. I had an '80's flashback there for a moment.
AVB ( 64.41.33.165 ) at 10:01 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
music from my youth

simm: Who ya gonna call? AVB of course.

I have Nantucket, Your Face or Mine, Long Way to the Top and....tada!! No Direction Home (1983 on RCA). Now I have to see if my cassette deck works, I don't think I've turned it on on about 4 years. Shoot me an email after this weekend to remind me and I'll see what I can do for you.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 9:41 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
music from my youth

simm: Did they do that song " There once was a man from Nantucket" :)
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 9:27 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
music from my youth

Does anyone remember a band named Nantucket that put out a few albums, I guess in the late '70's and early '80's? If so does anyone have a copy of their album "No Direction Home" that they would be willing to either burn on CD or make a tape copy of? I don't have a turntable or I would buy a used copy of the album. I will be glad to pay someone for the CD/Tape and their time.
AVB ( 64.41.33.165 ) at 9:22 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
42" plasmas

Curtis: Gateway had those "cheap" plasma sets or do you want total HDTV ability?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:51 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
42" plasmas

A friend has put together 4 or 5 friends who want 42" plasmas (you guys know they ain't for me at this point!). I am inclined to give local dealers a shot at this biz as I know every time the least little thing goes wrong they're be whining to me about it.

What's the best bang for the buck product out there? I'm searching the other usual places but value input I get here the most. If they can live with a 16" deep box I'm suggesting they also checkout the DLP based Samsung 43" RP. TIA.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:44 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
electronic Cards

Joe: There's still plenty of free cards on good old www.bluemountain.com

You'll have to endure pop-up ads however.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:01 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
electronic Cards

Where is a good site to send online cards for free?
Gar ( 66.222.127.123 ) at 5:51 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Another Prepro

Wild Bill: I agree with you, I have good contacts to be a dealer if I decided to do a business, but not just dabbling in selling stuff online. That won't float with most manufactuers. Also 50 points on electronics is unheard of but companies like Onix which used to be a English company and now is owned by someone in China do have 50 point margins but there equipment isn't all that great. Ironically it is the same comany that makes the Rockets everyone is taking about, and I am sure there margins are very good, but then again that product is receiving rave reviews from most people that listen to them.
Gar ( 66.222.127.123 ) at 5:42 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Ron: Do you still have your ML system? Still one of my favorites as far as soundstages goes.
Wild Bill ( 12.92.112.26 ) at 5:37 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Another Prepro

cai: Your "become a dealer theory" is nice but it's not that simple. There is criteria to meet to become a dealer. If you simply try to do it to get a unit at cost I can assure you that they won't accept you as a dealer. You must be in the business. Casual observers need not apply. ;-)

BTW, I know of no electronic lines that have a margin near 50 points (and I've seen price lists for many).
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:52 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

prince: I wish! email coming.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 4:43 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Gar: The 750's we listened to had the Vifa Tweeters.
prince ( 198.54.202.4 ) at 4:22 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Gar: Sounds strange to me. What has Argentina got to do with it? Maybe Curtis will enlighten me. Maybe he's got some of those famous Curtis Babes after him and he's making a duck! Hahahaha
Gar ( 66.222.126.173 ) at 4:12 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

prince: are you going to Argentina soon, if not forget about the S-7000. I am sure Curtis will explain it to you.
prince ( 198.54.202.4 ) at 4:05 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Curtis: I think you forgot about me. I'm still waiting for your price for the 7000. You never got back to me.
T-Man ( 208.40.138.124 ) at 3:58 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Bagman: Please e-mail me your e-mail address. E-mail me at work.
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 3:52 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Gar: email coming your way.
hdlouie ( 209.162.15.149 ) at 2:37 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Heatwave..

Since you have weather as a subject, Low 80's here for the Superbowl.
hdlouie ( 209.162.15.149 ) at 2:35 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Hello all,

I didn't get a e-mail for the contribution.

It's been sometime since I posted but I do linger once in awhile. In fact my 50in Mits RP TV is going out. Once I turn it on it get's these thin lines at the top of the screen. These lines are getting lower and lower withe time, but once it warms up it goes away.

Anyway, I maybe in the market for a HD RPTV, about a 50 to 60". And will need some help on a good model. I don't want a Mits again though.
Gar ( 66.222.127.198 ) at 2:14 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

BC: how about some Halo gear to go with those speakers. :)
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 2:11 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Rockets

Yep, everything Ron said.
I thought they sounded very good. Vocals sound incredible, sooo smooth.
The fit and finish was top notch. I'd say they are well worth the money.
And this guys room was far from ideal, hardwood floors, room was open to the kitchen and to an upstairs loft above. Listened on one of the lower end toshiba DVD players and a Denon 3802. I'd venture to say that they would sound much, much better with better electronics. Overall, a really good buy!
Gar ( 66.222.127.198 ) at 2:07 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Ron: More good reviews!

http://www.audiorevolution.com/equip/rocket_speakers/
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 2:02 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Fricking Cold

Kieran: ..!.,
Gar ( 66.222.127.198 ) at 1:59 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Ron: Your basically describing Dynaudio line also, most all of there speakers are fantastic sounding. But that being said the Rockets got them beat hands down in the cost area. Vifa Tweeters, depending on which one there using are very good. I talked to one of the techs in Colorado and he said for the money they are very hard to beat.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 1:46 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Fricking Cold

You'll all be happy to know that I was skiing at Squaw Valley last weekend in a t-shirt. It was in the low 50's F. :-)
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.58.54.27 ) at 1:31 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Fricking Cold

Robert: We're having a heat wave here at 19... after a low of 10.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 1:25 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Ron: My boss struck a deal with someone of high ranking at AV123 and has a full set now, evidently the top models for each category. He likes them, but with his schedule, doesn't get to ue them much.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 1:23 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Fricking Cold

Gar: It's STILL not even ZERO at Noon here in MN, my thermometer shows -8.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 1:22 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

BC and I went to someone’s home last night in Dallas and spent a few hours listening to the Rockets. We both walked away pretty impressed. Quality of finish is of the highest quality. They are simply beautiful looking. They are on par with the best out there.

The sound of the speakers made me think a little bit of Vans. At first impression, the highs seem somewhat soft but over time, you realize they are there just not as forward as other speakers are. This laid back impression is one quality that I liked with the Vans. You can listen at high levels for hours with out tiring. The best character of these speakers is how well vocals are reproduced. It comes across as very life like, clean, and clear.

The hype about these that has been going on in other forums is not all hype. These speakers are worth a listen. I just may place an order myself.
Maybe BC will chime in with his impressions.
AVB ( 64.41.32.220 ) at 12:58 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
AVB

Joe: I still haven't gotten email from you. What can I do for you?
Gar ( 66.222.127.198 ) at 12:56 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Fricking Cold

AVB: That is with Windchill. Also I lived in MN for many years and grew up in White Bear Lake, not near as cold as International Falls, which I have been to in the winter. That is a place where you can swear out loud and see your words freeze in mid-air!
AVB ( 64.41.32.220 ) at 12:53 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Fricking Cold

Gar: -45?? That has to be with wind chill. The containental U.S. record is -36 I believe at International Falls, MN. I was in Canada at Great Bear Lake for a local record of -56, the gas lines in the plane froze. You don't want to deal with cold like that, and neither do I again.
Gar ( 66.222.127.198 ) at 12:25 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

BC Sent you an e-mail
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 12:06 PM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Parasound Halo

If anyone is interested in the new Halo stuff (C2, C3), shoot me an email. I can get the new stuff at a pretty good price. becorr@msn.com
Gar ( 66.222.49.74 ) at 10:26 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Fricking Cold

Car would not start this morning and Son is Sick. Eventful morning indeed. I pushed car into garage so, hopefully this will help. -35 to -45 tonight...
Joelc ( 216.223.140.58 ) at 10:05 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

AVB: No, I am here. I am back on my schedule but my internet provider is not. Appears that there was an early morning hicup which make connecting impossible.
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 9:54 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Curtis

Good Morning all

Curtis try me at joseph.e.hansen@gm.com
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:52 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Another Prepro

AVB: I saw this new pre/pro at CES and thought it to be very impressive. And, as Gar pointed out, so is the price. Equally impressive is the all digital amplifier. This Bel Canto equipment is also very nice looking. Since dealers pay about half the price of retail, that is one way of getting this superb piece of equipment cheaper - become a dealer.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:44 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

BIG AL: I have not sold it yet. However, when I was at CES the Kenwood people said that they were going to have a factory upgrade for all players to speed-up the layer and disc changes. Those were two of the issues I had with the unit.

If you are insterested e-mail me at casimiroa@netscape.net and we could discuss this further. I need to decide one way or another, whether I want to keep it or not.

AVB ( 64.41.32.97 ) at 8:11 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
How much power do you need....a real answer!

Gar:His is just to get to reference level. If you listen louder then you need more power. I've seen 40 amp draws (4,800 watts) on some scenes when I'm cranking it up. Can't keep it there for long or the house would come down but it is fun every once in a while.
AVB ( 64.41.32.97 ) at 8:06 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

After 8 and no Joel, so much for being back on HIS schedule hahahaha
Gar ( 66.222.126.137 ) at 2:22 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Doh!! That is "Stands" :)
Gar ( 66.222.126.137 ) at 2:17 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

Curtis: The first time you listed you where selling stuff, I e-mailed you I wanted the DVD Player, you said you needed to figure out the price. Let me know if that still stand.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:40 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

BIG AL: Prince backed out some time ago. Gar said he may have an interest in the PP, another said he was ready to go now.
Gar ( 66.222.126.155 ) at 12:21 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
How much power do you need....a real answer!

AVB: Sounds like fuzzy math, hahaha JK.
More wattage doesn't always mean better sound. Also reference levels may be way too loud for some people. Thinking about what you posted though makes sense, acutally I just measured my speaker distance and I am about 13 feet away and I am currently using a B&K Amp that is 125 Watts, so pretty accurate.
Gar ( 66.222.126.155 ) at 12:15 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003

BIG AL: Actually I e-mailed and talk to Curtis years ago, that if he sold it to let me know. No biggie, I am sure there are more out there now from the looks of audiogon, but not taken care of as well.
Gar ( 66.222.126.155 ) at 12:14 AM EST Thursday, January 23, 2003
Another Prepro

AVB: Yikes!! That is a tad expensive, it better have top notch video switching for that price.
BIG AL ( 199.35.146.138 ) at 9:47 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

cai; Did you sell the Sovereign DVD player yet?
BIG AL ( 199.35.146.138 ) at 9:42 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Curtis; I don't want to rain on Gar, but didn't you promise the DVD player to Prince?
BIG AL ( 199.35.146.138 ) at 9:41 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

AVB; Just kidding about the felt. :)
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 9:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
How much power do you need....a real answer!

This is a post by Drew Eckhardt on the AVS forum. The original questions were: "How much amp do I need for this setup? Is there a formula to determine how many watts I need in an amp for my setup?"

Drew's answer should be cut and pasted and saved by all of us.

Sure. Figure out how loud you listen (Reference level is 105dB), subtract the product of six times log base 2 of the distance you sit from the speakers in meters, subtract speaker efficiency, perhaps subtract a few dB because you're in a reverberant space, divide by 10, and raise 10 to this power.

Example: you listen at Reference -5dB, so you need 100dB peaks.

You sit 13' from the speakers which is 4 meters, log2 of which is 2, so you need 12dB more at the speakers to reach your target level (112dB). Subtract 3dB? for reverberation - so maybe 109dB at the speakers will do it. Speaker efficiency is 88dB. 109-88 = 21dB. 10^2.1 = 126 Watts.

If you wanted reference level, you'd need 114-88 = 26dB.
10^2.6 = 400 Watts.

These are peak numbers.

Drew Eckhardt
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 8:46 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Another Prepro

Gar: You have to move up to the big brother model for video switching.
http://www.belcantodesign.com/html/p_prepro.html
List is about $8K for this one.
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 8:42 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
If you hit the Lotto but are too lazy to pick &choose your HT

http://dba-pr.com/clients/jbl/releases/herculesces2003.htm

Starting at $150,000.
Gar ( 66.222.51.175 ) at 8:34 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Curtis: Geez! That was fast, I think I was one of the first persons to reply to you on that unit(Pronto Pro). Don't forget I called dibs on that Sony DVD Player ;)
Gar ( 66.222.51.175 ) at 8:32 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Another Prepro

AVB: Cool looking, to bad it doesn't have Component switching.
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 7:49 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Another Prepro

This one looks nice too. http://show.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/sh.pl?ampstran&1036352704&item&&4&5&6&http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fs_srch.plQQANYAAAApurlsrchAAEXYAAstAAAAAAbel=canto
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 7:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
AVB

Joe: Just click on my name to send me an email. It is: the_avb@yahoo.com

You missed the underscore.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 7:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Joe: The longer addy bounced. Are you sure there are no unlerlines in it.

All: Thanks for looking at the list. The Pronto Pro has been sold.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 7:02 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
AVB

I tried your addy TheAVB@yahoo.com and it got kicked back to me.
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 6:46 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Nightlife in Philly

Robert: Zanzibar Blue. Broad + Walnut Streets features local acts on the weekdays they are open 7 nights a week while Chris's is 6 nights a week. Both are pretty upscale so bring your Amex!
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 6:42 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Nightlife in Philly

Robert: You are in for a treat then if you like casual Jazz. Chris' Jazz Cafe. 1421 Sansom St. Voted one of the top 100 Jazz clubs in the world last year. Decent food too.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Josephehansen@gm.com
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis: Please sned me a list Joseph e Hansen@gm.com
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 6:13 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Curtis

email me a list as well. ssimmons@triad.rr.com
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 6:11 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Nightlife in Philly

AVB: Not the ballet.......... I was thinkng jazz/Blues.
AVB ( 64.41.33.181 ) at 6:08 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Nightlife in Philly

Robert: All of the "hot" clubs are on Delaware Ave. What are you looking for?
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 6:00 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Nightlife in Philly

Hey all, I might have an opportunity to see some nightlife in Philly on an upcoming trip. Anyobdy familiar with the town that could recommend something?
Tony C ( 68.23.39.149 ) at 5:09 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
new computer upgrade!

BC: I wonder if that's covered under the waranty
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.181 ) at 5:04 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Kieran: Came in Monday... having to deal with some family issues involving long-term care for my dad in So SF. Also squeezing work stuff in there as well. I leave Friday AM, but I hope to be back in February when I hope to e more social.

I also went to Fry's to get a CAT5 cable... also looked at their TVs and audio systems. They have some decent Polk speakers and Cambridge Audio speakers set up but the featured room was Bose... go figure!
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:10 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

RickMTB: Didn't realize you were in the area. How long will you be around, or are you already gone? Did you get a chance to swing by and see Curtis?
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.181 ) at 3:31 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Went to Laserland (in San Jose)last night... what a dissappointment! Looks like they have dropped a number of good speaker lines and replaced with Infinity. Nice selection of plasmas though (The Pioneer looked the best, natch!).

btw, I hate traveling

btw2, Glad you got the check Brian. See, it really was in the mail. ;-)
Joelc ( 216.223.140.14 ) at 2:00 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Curtis: You have mail!
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.57.25.123 ) at 1:27 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
new computer upgrade!

BC: Oh, none in the computer though. :P
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.57.25.123 ) at 1:26 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis: That sucks. I would be interested in your FP, but right now I barely have enough money for gas... :P
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.57.25.123 ) at 1:26 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
new computer upgrade!

BC: I can believe that... When I was up at Stillwater, I had a snake outbreak. They weren't near that big, but I found a few baby snakes in my house. Only one was found alive though.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Scott "popcorn": No there's no reason ;-) Just a huge/unexpected expense that isn't going away. It's always fun to start over anyway.
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 11:02 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
new computer upgrade!

http://www.uq.edu.au/education/extra/all.html
AVB ( 64.41.32.196 ) at 10:40 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Joelc: It's fine with me, just that 5:08 was a bit earlier than normal.
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 10:17 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Ron: Glad I asked or I'd have shown up at the one near the trade center/apparel mart!
See you at 6.
Joelc ( 216.223.140.58 ) at 9:19 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

AVB: As a result of my recent (and new found) freedom I am back to MY schedule. Plan on getting those annoying early morning greetings all over again. Sorry!!
JJ ( 209.208.201.146 ) at 8:26 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis: Sure. Shoot it to me. jim@julianos.info. thanks.
I don't think any one would mind a list. Someone interested in an item could query you offline for price.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 8:15 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis:Send a list my way.

ronhtx@msn.com
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 8:10 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

BC: North Dallas. 4099 Valley View Lane.
AVB ( 64.41.32.196 ) at 6:16 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis: I would think you could post your list but if you don't, email me what you have. I hope everything is fine and this is just an upgrade waiting to happen.
AVB ( 64.41.32.196 ) at 6:12 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Sub

BIG AL: I wouldn't even know how to pack something this big anyway but you are welcome to pick it up! :>) 12 hours one way should get you here no problem.

I'm getting the GS (Giant Sub) dialed in slowly but have found some anomolies with the Sony. With the center set as small it sends bass to both the sub and my fronts so there is a 3 db increase in output. I can get a pretty good level match otherwise. Those felt pads won't help because it is entire panels that vibrate. The whole door is flexing the same with spaces between the studs even though they are insulated.
AVB ( 64.41.32.196 ) at 6:00 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Joelc: Good morning to you too! Up early today?
Joelc ( 64.229.52.144 ) at 5:08 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

Good morning gang!!
Gar ( 66.222.126.115 ) at 2:17 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis: Yikes!!! Almost the whole flipping HT system? Hey I sent you an E-mail on the Sony DVD Player.
Kieran ( 209.148.114.53 ) at 1:29 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
An argument AGAINST HDTV...

If there was ever something that should NOT be broadcast in HD, David Allen Coe is it. Good God HDNet, how desperate are you?

If anyone here wants to wish they did not own an HDTV, tune to HDNet now. Just be forwarned, avert your children's eyes, or nightmares may be coming...
Scott "popcorn" ( 65.57.29.77 ) at 1:10 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis:
it's basically my entirte HT.
Any particular reason?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:46 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Gar: The funny thing is ... I understood what you were saying!

email coming - for any curious, it's basically my entirte HT.
Gar ( 66.222.126.144 ) at 12:29 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Curtis: gward@tds.net, Send a e-mail my way, hell I think would should be
to post stuff for sale. Maybe we should have a for sale page?
Gar ( 66.222.126.144 ) at 12:28 AM EST Wednesday, January 22, 2003

BIG AL: Good to hear your doing better. Still selling gear on the side to help keep hobby going. Thank God for "Audiogon" I have a interview with a Medical company tomorrow that sells equipment to Eye Surgeons should be interesting. The Pharma business is going down the crapper. I get into discussions all the time on health care, and boy are people dead wrong when it comes to the increase in cost of health care. Hospitalization is what is killing us, if more of us listen to our doctors and we still had some corporate fitness going on we would be better off. If I land this job the pay is really really good 6 figures +, I guess I will be looking for more HT gear. Ah hell, what are CC for, hahahaha
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.17 ) at 11:47 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

AVB; Great job on the sub! I figured you were going to have rattle problems. Buy some stick on felt buttons and start sticking them to door jambs. So with a sub with that much output, can you localize the sound any better? Does it overpower the rest of the system, or can you turn it down enough without defeating the purpose of a huge sub. I mean, can you still push the drivers enough to get down below 20Hz without having too much volume?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.17 ) at 11:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

AVB; Are you watching a movie right now? I keep hearing a real low thumping sound, and I feel a little queazy. :)
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.17 ) at 11:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Gar; Spent a couple weeks in lala land (the drug one, not the Ca. one), but my back seems to be stabilizing. It's so weird. If I'm careful, I can still hoist quite a few pounds, and do things like shovel snow, mow the lawn, and even dig holes, but turn wrong to put a bag of chips on the counter, and WHAM!
Yep, still have the amps. They're in boxes, apreciating in value every day. :) I have a pile of equipment in my basement that's starting to look a lot like a pyramid. I really need to get my sound system set up.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.17 ) at 11:18 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

AVB; I would love to take the Larger sub off your hands, but shipping would kill us. Not to mention my wife. She puts up with 4 NHT 2.9s, and a Larger sub in our living room. 2 Larger subs might be pushing it. :)
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.17 ) at 11:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Joe; I agree with Tony C, the tape will be cheaper to buy. If you can't get the tape, and still need to copy the DVD, all you need is a "video stabilizer". I sell about one a month for just that purpose. $30 will do it if you can find one, cause it's not a Radio Smack product.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.17 ) at 11:12 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

BYork; Thanks bud!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 10:27 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Don't mean to spam

Anyone who's interested in seeing a list of hardware I have for sale pls email me as I'm far too classy to just post the 8 or 12 items here ;-) TIA
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 10:25 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Big Al -

DARN! You remembered to fill the amount in. ($14)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 9:53 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Hello again...

Axis: Great to hear from you. Yep Kieran's right, Duane hung up the calibration gloves for keeps yet he can likely refer you to someone nearly as good. Shoot me an email and I'll bring you up to date on everything else.

You mean you aren't inviting everyone to your place for a limo ride to the Super Bowl?!
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 8:52 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
pigskin predictions

Brock: The Raiders and the :snirck: Bucs?? I favor the Raiders by 14. But that's just me.
Hmmm...maybe we could start an HTOC pool?
BC ( 67.234.83.102 ) at 8:18 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Ron - Can you confirm which hotel your at. Just took a quick look in the phone book and there are a number of "Renaissaince" hotels. Is it 2222 Stemmons?
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:57 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Hello again...

Axis: I'm pretty sure Duane sold off his calibration equipment, and gave up calibrating almost entirely.
Axis ( 24.94.20.21 ) at 5:32 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Hello again...

Hey there Curtis and friends...

question for Curtis - Is Duane still around for RPTV cals? - I have a Tosh RPTY, and a friend does too...we need the luvin. how you been C? hope everyone is well also
Brock ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 5:02 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
pigskin predictions

T-ManPlease share your thoughts on this weekends super Bowl. I can tell from your insightful reply to my Kordell statement that you were probably a grid iron gladiator(linebacker,I wager)and as such are qulified to dispense some wisdom.Who do you like and why? Will you be watching in HD? Got to go....
AVB ( 64.41.33.151 ) at 4:52 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Cinepro

Joelc: I do believe they have bit the dust. Myself and some business associates have made an offer to buy the inventory but have not heard back from the estate. I think the wife believes she has a gold mine and isn't being reasonable about the sale of the name and assets...JMHO.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 4:49 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Giant Sub Completed

AVB: Holy dB Batman !! 89 cuft !!

Which drivers are you using? I've built some big boxes before but 89 cu ft, I really would hate to be at the point of resonance. Some schmo two miles away is going to be saying what in the hell is that !!
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 4:46 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Joelc: Sad to say, and I hate to admit it, but a show that I've been Tivo'ing has been Joe Millionare. Several of these girls are looking for nothing more than the $$$$$$ and are as shallow as a kiddie pool. I've never been the type for high maintence girls, but would give the right girl (my wife) the world if she asked for it.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 4:33 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Joelc: It is still hanging on. I hate being ssick when I am traveling.
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 4:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Giant Sub Completed

AVB: Have fun on the new toy.You need to gave 2 or 3K of power to see if you cane lift the house.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:18 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Joelc: Good call on the high-maintanence looker. She definitely has issues... that card thing is a JOKE! What ever happened to "it's the thought that counts"??? Sheesh... Run away and don't look back.
Joelc ( 64.229.56.172 ) at 3:21 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Afternoon gents. A few odds/sods...

All: Took your advise earlier today and dumped the g/f... you know, the one who had "issues" with the watch. The straw that broke the camels back (although it should have been broken long ago) was a complaint that a birthday card which said she was perfect was "unacceptable as it did not touch her sufficiently". Oh well... too bad as she is/was a real looker!

AVB: Cool sub... can you post some pics. Also what ever happened to Cinepro? Did they get bought, close shop, etc?

BYork: I know that the check will not yet be there as Canada Post sucks but can you drop me a line when you get it. Would be most appreciative.

Ron H: All you all recovered? If not, hope that you are feeling better.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 3:12 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
DVD to VCR

Tony C: There you go again! Always the voice of logic, reason, and morality! Sheesh... ;-)

(IOW... good point.)
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 2:17 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Giant Sub Completed

AVB: congratulations on finsihing. It's too funny to think about your whole room shaking and rattling. Send us a picture.
I bet it will be great to free us some floor space.
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 2:05 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
CD-R

Joe: I never had a problem with CD-Rs. I have to buy the MUSIC ones for my Phillips but the cheap ones work good on the PC.
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 2:04 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
DVD to VCR

Joe: it's easier to buy the tape. cheap too. Also legal.
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 2:02 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
LD's

Joe: I'm interested in the Jaws box.
email at tony.camardo@bmg.com with price.
mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 1:35 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Giant Sub Completed

AVB: send me an email dukealexan@aol.com about the vmps, do you have a picture on your bio of it.
AVB ( 64.41.32.41 ) at 1:08 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Giant Sub Completed

Kieran: Right now it is 2 channels of a Cinepro 2K5II bridged @ 750 watts into 4 ohms. I have 2 18" drivers in use for it. Even though these are 'car' subs the unusual way they are being used makes them spec much better for this application then any of the Adires, Strykes, Aura's etc etc. I did simos on hundreds of drivers and these were the 3rd best. The first two choices are no longer made and impossible to find.
AVB ( 64.41.32.41 ) at 1:02 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
DVD to VCR

Joe: I can run S-video & audio into my JVC switch and record a DVD with no problem. If you really need a copy I could make you one provided I have the DVD.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 1:01 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Giant Sub Completed

AVB: Wow. That sounds like one awesome sub. I know you said before, but what are you powering it with, and how big is the actual driver itself?
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 1:00 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
DVD to VCR

Joe: You can try, but I don't think that will work... I don't see anywhere in that path that would skip or eliminate the Macrovision. I could be wrong though... I was once before. ;-)
Joe ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 12:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
DVD to VCR

Kieran: I wonder if I could play the DVD in my DVD-R and run it out though my Canon ZR-45 and into a VCR deck?
AVB ( 64.41.32.41 ) at 12:18 PM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Giant Sub Completed

I finished my 89 cuft closet sub over the weekend and am still tweaking it but overall there is some serious low bass being output. Even with a double MDF front baffel (1.5") there is an amazing amount of movement. I tried to see exactly how much with a plunge micrometer but I can't reach the center of the baffle (22"). At 12" I get 2mm of movement so the center has to be around 3 mm. I don't think I'll rebuild with a triple thickness but I will for the next sub.

I decided to go with the ported design for the moment, it just seemed to have more grunt. After I get the BFD I'll revisit the sealed design. Right now I have it tuned to 15hz with the -3db point at 13.25Hz. Everything rattles except the concrete floor. Doors, door frames, lights, hardwood paneling, my equipment cabinet....everything. Of course, if I keep the volume under 100 db with the test signals it is a bit less noisy.

Anybody want a VMPS larger cheap?
AVB ( 64.41.32.41 ) at 11:55 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
LD's

Joe: I'm interested in the Lonsome Dove, email me your asking price.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 11:33 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
DVD to VCR

Joe: You need a macrovision defeater. They are sometimes sold as "image enhancers" through mail order sites in the back of magazines like Popular Science, etc. Or do a google search for them online... I'm sure they're easy to find. You may have to build it yourself from parts.

Another way would require a PC w/ dvd-rom drive, and RCA outputs for video and audio. You would rip the movie to the hard drive, then play it off the hard drive out on the RCA jacks which you would feed to the VCR. Depending on the software dvd player you used on the PC, this would eliminate macrovision.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:15 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
Brentwood

BYORK: I realized that after I sealed the envelope. That's why I said, "Nevermind" when I posted that I had sent my payment. :^) too bad!
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 10:54 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
A HT question

I never use my Pronto anymore. I find I use the Anthem remote for everything, except for the Mega Changers.

The question is how can I program the Pronto for 2 Mega Changers of the same brand. So if I want to hear AIC Dirt I can push a button and get slot 15 on my changer, changer #3 and not Bobby Brown on my wifes, changer #1?
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 10:46 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
DVD to VCR

I wanted to make some movies to send to Mom. How can I tape a VCR from a DVD without all the goobley gook?
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 10:45 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
CD-R

Which ones do you all use. I have a bunch I threw away. Once I got to track 10 or so they started getting fuzzy, then skipping then nothing. This made me mad after a few failed attemps.
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 10:42 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
LD's

Good Morning all. I am cleaning up my HT room. I am running out of shelf space and have some LDs that are duplicates of DVDS I have. So if anyone is interested I am looking to get rid of them.

Jaws Box Set Sealed
Return to Lonesome Dove Sealed
Saving Private Ryan
The Lost World Sealed
The Abyss Extended version
MIB Sealed
Broken Arrow
M.I Sealed

I also have 25 or so Star Trek TNG on LD all sealed.
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 9:39 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003

Good morning gang.

Came across this site. Looks like people are taking the pyramid scheme to a new level.
http://www.ezexpo.com/
JJ ( 209.208.201.146 ) at 8:42 AM EST Tuesday, January 21, 2003
3 across the front

simm: Yes that was me. Most people seem to be happy (including me). There have been some issues crop up for people, but most are fixable. There is a Yahoo Group for some reading on it if you wish. I bought from AVMall. Their price is 1495 now. There are other options. Most shops have it for about that price.
Gar ( 66.222.126.73 ) at 11:33 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

BIG AL: How things going? Haven't seen you in here in awhile. The Crackobackter my friend John sure helped my back out. Been on a health kick for the last month and it is finally starting to show. Do you still have those Marantz Amps?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.113 ) at 11:27 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

BYork; Thanks! If the check is blank, don't be too cruel! :-)
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.113 ) at 11:27 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Joe; I was going to agree on Animals, then I thought....which PF album wouldn't be great? :-)
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 11:21 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DVD

I still think Animals would be great
Gar ( 66.222.126.73 ) at 11:21 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Curtis: Good stuff made in Japan, TVs yes! Most of the good high end Audio gear is still made here or Canada, especially Amps. I thought Sony orginally had that plant in Mexico and then moved it to San Diego, because they where having major problems with bad product coming out of the mexico plant. Well that is what I was told, not sure how true it was.
Joe ( 64.12.96.9 ) at 11:20 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
Tony

Eyes are cool and I am happy now. I was kind of freaking there for awhile.
Gar ( 66.222.126.73 ) at 11:17 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
Another Pre/Pro

AVB: Thanks for the link. Cool looking, I still haven't seen any of the Parasound Halo units yet, and they where introduced last year and looked very similar to this unit. I wish they would put some video and audio connectors on the front of these units! You would think at these prices they would, one more reason I love my HK Receiver very practical. I can say one thing, if it sounds as good as it looks I will be taking a look at it.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.113 ) at 11:14 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DSOM DVD A

Joe:,Simm,Tony C; In widescreen they say it will presumably be a DVD-A release by the album's record label, EMI.
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 10:24 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DSOM DVD A

Joe: audiorevolution.com and thedigitalbits.com have both had stories on it. I am disappointed as I got a heck of a deal on the Yamaha CX-1 DVD-A player and wanted this title in particular. There is also a thread on it at the HTF in the music section. Sorry I don't know how to link exact threads or I would.
Tony C ( 68.23.40.219 ) at 9:58 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DSOM DVD A

Joe: Hey Joe, how are your eyes? You used to them yet?
Tony C ( 68.23.40.219 ) at 9:56 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Chris L.: I was in St.Lucia, Barbados, St.Kitts, Dominica, and St.Thomas. I was at each Island for only one day. Oh, and we went in and out of San Juan.
My favorites were Dominica and St. Kitts.
Tony C ( 68.23.40.219 ) at 9:54 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DSOM DVD A

simm & Joe: As Columbia still owns the rights to all Pink Floyd albums I would suspect SACD only.
Joe ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 9:10 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DSOM DVD A

simm: Really, which sites are those? I am still sitting on the fence for a DVD A & SACD player. THe money I had earmarked for a player went towards my Lasik surgery. Another bit of cash I have is going towarsds a new bike.

I am hoping by the time I get off the fence theya will have digital connections.
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 9:08 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Tony C: Where in the Caribbean where you? I fell in love with Aruba the first day I was there. You're right though...the Calypso music is a bit overdone. Our hotel room overlooked the pool area and they played that crap until about 11pm. Probably for the tourists sake who expect that kind of stuff but still....
I'm going back this year for 2 weeks. Now that I've done all the tourist-y stuff my first time there, I can spend more time relaxing in the sun and enjoying that constant, unbelievably warm breeze. Will do the sunset cruise and snorkeling bit though. That was fun. :)
AVB ( 64.41.32.108 ) at 8:56 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
Another Pre/Pro

Always on the lookout for a Pre/pro so here is the newest from Rotel. http://www.htguide.com/CFBoards/index.cfm?fuseaction=thread&CFB=1&TID=53417&forum=25&DoOnePage=Yes
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 7:56 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DSOM DVD A

Joe: I have seen on several sites where this is now going to be SACD only. I wish it were DVD-A as I bought my player because the releases that interested me most were DVD-A but all of a sudden many of my favorites are being announced as SACD's.
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 7:54 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
3 across the front

Thanks for the responses guys. I sent an email offer to the seller and will wait to hear back from him. If it doesn't happen no harm as the VR-MC blends very well.

JJ was it you who recommended the Sanyo Z1 projector? I have been reading quite abit about it and it looks very interesting. Where did you get yours? Anyone have any experience with projector.com?
Joe ( 205.188.209.40 ) at 7:51 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
DSOM DVD A

Exclusive - Dark Side of the Moon on DVD-Audio Confirmed by Alan Parsons

Written by Jerry Del Colliano

Reliable sources close to AudioRevolution.com report that in a conference at the Surround 2002 Expo in Beverly Hills today, engineer Alan Parsons spoke on the topic of Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon being mixed for DVD-Audio (see AudioRevolution.com lead story from last week’s email).

Parsons confirmed that the version of Dark Side on DVD-Audio that has been heard around Los Angeles was a working version of the quad mix on a DVD-Audio disc. He confirmed that the band was in fact working on a dedicated 5.1 version which he was sure was going to be a DVD-Audio title. EMI, Floyd’s label, backs DVD-Audio in the U.S. Strangely, Parsons who engineered the legendary Dark Side album 30 years ago, is not part of the new mixing sessions based on a decision made by the band – says Parsons. After thirty years of hearing his work, Parson says he has lots of ideas of things he wanted to do differently if he were to get a chance. He isn’t.

Release dates, an official announcement and other details were not released but a 30th anniversary release seems to make sense at this point. If you could order the DVD-Audio title early, which you can’t at this point, it might become the biggest selling title in the new audio format’s history on its first shipment.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:28 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
My name is Robert and I'm a member of the Raider Nation

Robert: Good for you. I hope they kick Gruden's team all over the field.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 4:55 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Curtis/ Tony C: Better yet, ask if ANY TV for US consumption is even made anywhere else besides North America.
Tony C ( 68.23.40.219 ) at 4:39 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Curtis: The TV looks pretty good now. Who knows? Maybe all it needed was a little tweak. I hope I never see him again.

I'm really happy with the DSL and with my wireless router.
I finally got the Lutron CAT5e jack to work in the basement so it looks real pro.
Last test will be to bring the Tosh laptop into work to make sure all is still working on that network.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:21 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Tony C: Tell him that my former Tosh TW65 that's at least 4 years old has never had a single problem, despite being moved several times. I saw it recently and wished I had never let it go.
Tony C ( 68.23.40.219 ) at 4:03 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Curtis: He was curious as to why I went from a Sony to a Toshiba, because Sony made a better set. $$$, was my only answer. And I told him that the Tosh was getting great reviews from web sites. He said that it's down the road that counts. And you can't argue that, but this guy was surly.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 3:50 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Tony C: Welcome back mon - come over to hear our new 10 piece steel drum band?! There's nothing like snorkeling with hangover breath, huh? SCUBA is even worse.

Zenith is Korean-owned (LG) and RCA is French (Thomson). Ask the dude if his reliable luxury car came from those places. I'll bet there aren't nearly as many Z & RCA RP sets sold as Toshiba alone, so he's going to get calls on what's installed.

When Sony opened a huge TV factory near San Diego years ago, dealers/distributors were pissed because they wanted the good stuff made in Japan.
Tony C ( 68.23.40.219 ) at 3:21 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Back from the Caribbean. Loved that it was so cold here while I was in 85 degree wheather.

I finally got my router working by paying a neighor who does networking for a living.

I also had the TV repair man over today to take a look at the red-ness coming on the Tosh.
First thing he says is, "why'd you buy the Toshiba".
I said because it had the best 4:3 fill and it was cheap.
He said that all the Japanese sets are cheap and that he'e been fixing a lot of them. He went on to say that RCA and Zenith don't get calls for repair. I asked if RCA and Zenith weren't owned by Japanese companies, and I got a run around answer.

Just like going to a doctor, I played the TV all morning but it didn't do the full red thing like it did. But the guy was cool. He said that by the looks of my room I was a person who would know what I was talking about.
So he did a convergence, set the pods and told me call in a week to see if it still does it. Said, he really can't fix anything until it REALLY goes bad. So, I have to wait.


My trip? Was drunk most of the time. Did some great snokling and site seeing.
but what is up with Calypso Music? If I hear another steel drum I'm goingt to go postal. And you can stiffle the Bob Marley too please.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 2:53 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Gar: Yes that is the player I bought, and I like it a lot! :-)
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 1:16 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

BC: Should make for a good demo.
Gar ( 66.222.127.76 ) at 12:06 PM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Like I said great prices, I wonder if there going to have local dealers. I do my best at keeping a few local dealers happy, even if I am looking for a Gar deal I still buy allot from my local dealer. Using Vifa drives is a good thing.

http://www.av123.com/products_category_pack.php?section=speakers
Gar ( 66.222.127.76 ) at 11:45 AM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
Onix

I must say very pleasing to the eye. Made in the Republic of China only gripe, and i won't go into that, since everything you pick up is made there. If they sound as good as they look and are using some decent drivers, they would be worth a listen.
Gar ( 66.222.127.76 ) at 11:37 AM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

BC: Onix Rockets? Is this the same company that used to be in England and is now in China? Reason I ask, I used to sell Onix gear. There stuff is very inexpensive now especially there electronics which I never cared for. But that being said, I could be thinking of a different company.
BC ( 67.234.83.12 ) at 11:14 AM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Ron: Here is his list of equiment:
Toshiba 57H81 Widescreen HDTV
Toshiba SD-5700 Progressive DVD Player
Samsung SIR-T150 HDTV Receiver
Denon 3802 DD/DTS/DTS-ES/DPLII Receiver
Onix Rocket 200, (2) 750's, (4) 250's
HSU VTF-3 Subwoofer
Pioneer PDF-908 101-Disc CD Changer
Rhino Component Cables
Monster Cable (Coaxial, Optical, and Speaker)
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 10:31 AM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
My favorite ad so far

I must be Porsche's complete target customer. I love their ads. The latest one with the RV and the Cayenne had me ROTFLMAO. The set up, a guy in RV driving down road, sees Cayenne on side of road on dirt road, Cayenne engine howls a bit. KEep in mind the guy is driving down the road, his wife is sleeping in the pass chair, he GETS up and goes to the back of the RV and looks out hte back window through the blinds, the Cayenne is passing the RV, the guy watches it out the side window now, and then he jumps back into his seat as the Cayenne passes the RV. Now his wife has a vague recollection that he may have gotten out of his seat, he just looks back at here like nothing happened! Classic !!!

I had the TIVO on replay for about 4-5 viewings!
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 10:25 AM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
In regards to the CBS programming

OVerall, I thought it was a great program, Curtis is right, there are only so many HD Cameras (and the MSG network has one less thanks to a mad NBA player)so the interjection of some replays and shots in 4:3 was a must. I must say, Well done though.
I am concerned about how ABC is going to fare though. They haven't done HD since the 2000 Super Bowl and they did only OK in that one. CBS has had a ton of practice via their sports programming.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 10:18 AM EST Monday, January 20, 2003
My name is Robert and I'm a member of the Raider Nation

YEA BABY ! I can finally drag out all my old Oakland Raider Gear,,oh yea that's right, they moved to LA,,oh wait, they moved back to Oakland, HEY MY GEAR'S STILL GOOD !!!!!!!
The Wool cap, the Trash Can, The pennant, the (new) jersey, and the Helmet are all getting pulled out this week.

The only downside is that I've been invited to a friends house to watch it. While he has a HDTV (A Pioneer I sold him (off the back of the real truck, (NOT a Soprano deal)), I took over my tuner and because he sits at the base of a hill, he can't get the channels. I'm buying him an antenna this week and going to do what I can to get him HDTV!!
Curtis ( 12.234.117.140 ) at 1:17 AM EST Monday, January 20, 2003

Joelc: There were lots of extra cameras for the title game. The HD truck only has so many HD cameras per event. I didn't mind it as there was a single announcing team and not showing some of the 4:3 shots/replays they discuss is really annoying. This process wasn't nearly as well done in past years.

There aren't many HD ads yet. This should change for the Super Bowl, I'm told.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 11:24 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

BC: Great. Do you know what ones he has?
BC ( 67.234.22.29 ) at 11:01 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Joelc: We noticed this too. I think there must have been some non HD camera's shooting the game and when they switched to them, the picture went to 4:3. Not sure why they would mix & match, kind of annoying.

Ron: Got an email back from the guy with the Rockets. We're on for Wed. night.
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.14 ) at 10:55 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Curtis; That Jag XKSS was nice. It amazed me that someone would bid 950K, and not go to 1 mil, knowing that was the reserve. All I could think was that he knew the seller, made offers for it before, and was turned down. I mean there can't be too many guys with million dollar cars, and just as few with a million to spend on one. They probably golf together.
I'd settle for the maroon XKE for 175K. The one Brock said "For that price you could drive it on weekends, and not go crazy worrying about scratches, rocks, miles, and a fortune for insurance." YEAH RIGHT!
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 9:57 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
3 identical speakers across the front

simm: M&K 150's across the front. Sound is absolutely wonderful. Watched Pearl Harbor tonight and thought my living room was under attack. :)
Joelc ( 64.229.54.184 ) at 9:01 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

So I am watching the football game in HD and notice something quite disturbing... the picture seems to switch from 16:9 HD to 4:3 SD at various points during the broadcast (i.e. some replays, commercials, etc.). To this end:

- Is this normal?

- Why would a netwaork do this?

At least one inquiring mind wouldlike to know.
Joelc ( 64.229.61.34 ) at 8:27 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Well after a full day of work I am finally off to watch a little football. Hope everone has had a nice weekend.
Matt Brennan ( 204.246.4.193 ) at 8:15 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
Stereo: next wish list item

BAGMAN: Nice to see you again!

Thank you for the kind words. I look forward to following the discussions once again. I am sure a LOT has changed on the equipment front since we last participated in any sort of discussion or research effort. We hope to save some cash for a high quality music system for the living room. But, that purchase won't be happening anytime soon, unfortunately.
AVB ( 64.41.33.121 ) at 7:34 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
3 identical speakers across the front

simm: Should be mid & high....
AVB ( 64.41.33.121 ) at 7:33 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
3 identical speakers across the front

simm: 3 of the same is ideal but try to at least get the smar mid $ high frequency drivers. Most will run the center as small so the bass isn't as important.
Gar ( 66.222.127.184 ) at 7:22 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
3 identical speakers across the front

simm: Three alike across the front is a must. Also if you are doing SACD or DVD Audio, having 5 identical speakers is even better. I am using 5 identical Dynaudio speakers and a sub.
Gar ( 66.222.127.184 ) at 7:16 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
DVD

Kieran is this the DVD Player you bought? If so how do you like it?

http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?RestartFlow=t&Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2087&Product_Id=3262214&showcase=t
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 7:14 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
3 identical speakers across the front

What is the general feeling on identical speakers for FL, C, and FR? Anyone here that is doing this? I found a guy selling 1 Boston Acoustic VR-M60 speaker fairly local and am considering going for it. I currently use the VR-MC center and it does an excellent job providing a seamless soundstage but I have always wanted to go with 3 just alike. I put one of my 60's on top of my TV today and I was unable to hear a differnce. I put my center in the FR spot. If I go with a FP setup, and I hope to soon, I would probably get better sound as well as not as an awkward appearance. Would this be wasted money? He is selling the speaker for $300 but I may be able to get him down $25-$50 but then I end up with either a center I am not using or trying to sell it.
BAGMAN ( 204.215.39.186 ) at 6:29 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
Good Bastards at Fox :)

Gar: The whole game was on down here. I was rooting for Tampa but no emotional agenda. Thought I would cheer for the Raiders in the SB but now, perhaps not.
Gar ( 66.222.126.183 ) at 6:22 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
Good Bastards at Fox :)

The NFL playoff game went bye bye after the 3rd quarter and never came back on. I thought it was my cable, but tried the Ant. and sure enough it was out there and still is. Argh!!!! Philly looked like crap!
Joelc ( 64.229.61.34 ) at 5:47 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

BYork: Finally got my hands on some US cash after recovering. Funds were mailed earlier today. Sorry for the delay, and thanks for taking on this responsibility.
RB ( 65.129.32.176 ) at 4:11 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
DVD PSA

Two kick-ass movies are now on sale at Bestbuy.com for &7.99 plus free shipping - Ronin and Bad Influence.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 3:27 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

BIG AL: My son & I watched a bunch of that audtion. He wanted the Shelby GT500 (Eleanor) and I was thinking the Jag that didn't sell for $950K - below reserve - would be nice to put around in.
BAGMAN ( 204.215.39.186 ) at 2:53 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
LD's and DVD's For Sale

Matt Brennan: The memory of mcb is way on the plus side of neutral. I thought it was you from the style of your writing. Always enjoyed it. Pop back in now and again. The forum has evolved into kind of a lifestyle forum as well as HT. Nice to see you again!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.132 ) at 12:46 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Happy B-Day David!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.132 ) at 12:46 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Curtis; Being abnormal I never watch the usual sports. My veiwing is either "speed" channel, billiards, sumo, karate, and a host of other non-main stream sports. I haven't watched a football game more than 15 min. since I went to a super bowl party about 8 years ago. I was VERY bored. :-) I spent most of Friday and Saturday watching the big car auction in Scottsdale. Drooling over $300,000 + cars. :p~~~~~
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 12:08 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

OH, and Happy Birthday, David.

And now...to go install a French Drain behind our new pool (UGH)

Will try to check in later this evening.
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 12:07 PM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Trying to catch up with all the posts directed at me, and the snailmail message you all sent..

Even though Gaggeek sugggested it...extra funds really arent't necessary.

GASGEEK - That would be Brentwood in NORTHERN California. Kinda a long drive between your place and mine!

BIG AL - I'll let you know if the check is in the letter you mailed as soon as I get it.

CHRIS L - Sorry ...no PayPal. I've never had a need for it. (Besides,it's kinda difficult to cover my VISA bill for the renewal if the money is spread around on PayPal, in checks received, etc.)
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 11:06 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Joelc: I am alive but not lloking forward to traveling to Dallas Monday for training.

I told Nicky in December that my traveling would subside this year but 3 weeks into the year I am going away for a week. The following week I am gone for two days which is not too bad.

After the training I will be hitting the road for the first few months but I do not expect it to be all year long like last year. The good part is like my job and enjoy what I do.
Joelc ( 64.229.59.148 ) at 10:57 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Ron H: How are you feeling today?
Joelc ( 64.229.59.148 ) at 10:57 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

Good morning gang!
Matt Brennan ( 204.246.4.193 ) at 10:42 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
LD's and DVD's For Sale

BAGMAN: Yes. I hope the memory of mcb was fairly nuetral ;-)

My wife decided to pursue art as a full-time occupation which began a long term effort to establish her business/career. Coupled with a number of other "whatever's", including a job change for me, and time just seemed to slip by. That's why I disappeared from the forum. Our movie viewing has also dropped off quite a bit, and we seem to be listening to music far more often. Hence the desire to sell off a large number of movies.
AVB ( 64.41.33.121 ) at 10:16 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
LD's and DVD's For Sale

Matt Brennan: Good list but I have all of the ones that I would want from it. :( Good Luck!
BAGMAN ( 204.215.39.186 ) at 9:48 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
LD's and DVD's For Sale

Matt Are you mcb that used to hang here? If so, where have you been and what have you been up to?
Matt Brennan ( 204.246.4.193 ) at 8:23 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003
LD's and DVD's For Sale

Hi Again,

With the interest shown, I figured it made more sense to simply list all of the LD's and the DVD's that we would like to sell. They're in excellent condition. Please e-mail me if you would like to purchase one or more. PLEASE make a fair offer. I defer to each of you to know what a 'fair offer' would be. Thanks! Matt mc_brennan@yahoo.com

DVD's
The Postman
Lethal Weapon 3
Lethal Weapon 4
Tombstone
Air Force I
Das Boot
The Fugitive
Legends of the Fall
Last of the Mohicans
Patriot Games

LD's
Batman Forever
Bond Box Set #1
Bond Box Set #2
Goldeneye
Moonraker
Broken Arrow
Clear & Present Danger
Crimson Tide
Die Hard
Die Hard w/ a Vengeance
Eraser
Rambo: First Blood
Rambo III
First Knight
Hunt for Red October
I Love Trouble
Amadeus
Immortal Beloved
Independence Day
The Joy Luck Club
Lethal Weapon I
Lethal Weapon II
Mission Impossible I
Parenthood
Philadelphia
The Rock
Speed
Star Trek II
Star Trek III
Star Trek IV
Star Trek VI
Thunderheart
True Lies
When Harry Met Sally
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:00 AM EST Sunday, January 19, 2003

BIG AL: Good to see you back. I was wondering where you were. Really sorry to learn about the health issues but I'm sure you'll be back to full abnormal in no time ;-)

What do you think of the far-fetched rumors of Ditka coming to the 49er's?
BIG AL ( 204.248.61.79 ) at 10:48 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003

HI guys!! I've been in a drug induced stupor for a few weeks, but I'm almost back to abnormal.
Chris L; Throw some back spasms into that story, and a gruesome 30 ft. crawl trailing puke to the bathroom, and then sleeping there to avoid a repeat crawl, and you've got my last weekend. :(
BYork; mailed my check yesterday. At least I think it was a check. It was sealed, addresssed and stamped, but I don't remember making out the check. I was still so fuzzy that after I mailed it, I thought, "why didn't you just open it and check stupid!". Anyway, let me know what you get so I can enter it in the checkbook. :)
Derb ( 65.59.50.86 ) at 10:21 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
Sub Help

AVB: Popcorn, Went over and made the changes to the sub connections & crossover settings on the Paradigm and it made a noticable difference for the better. I still think we need to move it around a bit and work with the phase control. But it does not sound as bloated or muddy as it did. Still not quite blended in yet, and he likes the bass on the heavy side, so it's kind of hard me to say. So long as he likes how it sounds is ok with me. Agian thanx for the input
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:24 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
Tying this all back to HT...

... but still speaking of Yao, after the Rockets had drafted the guy but well before he arrived on US soil to begin his NBA career, Houston fans were already calomiring for any info they could get on the guy. There were a few minutes of tape of his workouts in the US before the draft, and other clips of tape of him playing in earlier World Cup and Chinese Basektball Association games. One industrious fan created a pretty compelling music video from those pieces of tape using the song "Hero" as the music background. A great foretelling of what impact Yao would have in Houston and the NBA.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen that video in a while (now, a song called "Its a Yao Ming Thing, aka The Yao Ming Song is the rage, played on radio, and even performed live during the half time show during the Laker-Rocket game). But it plays on the radio every once in a while, and its been stuck in my head.

My oldest daughter me to take her to Blockbuster tonight to get Like Mike, and I was about ready to get Minority Report and then I saw a movie jacket advertising the hit song "Hero". Back went Minority Report (I know, a better movie) and home went Spiderman. :-)
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:17 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
rockets

Curtis: Thats an old ad... he was in New York two weeks ago to shot an ad for VISA. An over-used term, but Yao is a "breath of fresh air".
JJ ( 69.3.174.3 ) at 8:23 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
Contribution

BYork: Mine is on the way. I put it in the PO Box thursday afternoon. Sorry for the delay.
JJ ( 69.3.174.3 ) at 8:21 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
DVD's and LD's : For Sale

Matt Brennan: I'd be interested in the list as well. jim@julianos.info
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:21 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
rockets

BC: The Rennisance
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 6:44 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
Have fun

Get to play with a InFocus 7200 for about 3 or 4 days 14Kcan$ YES.
BC ( 67.234.83.91 ) at 6:25 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
rockets

Ron: I'll set it up for Wed.
Where are you staying this time in Dallas?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:39 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
rockets

RickMTB: Speaking of Yao, check out this ad with him & someone a BIT shorter ... http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 5:20 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
rockets

Ron: Gee, recently people saying "kool" about the Rockets they are referring to Yao Ming, Steve Francis, and Cuttino Mobley... ;-) Hope you are feeling better...
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 4:17 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
rockets

BC: Kool!!! Lets plan on Wednesday.
BC ( 67.234.83.234 ) at 4:14 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
rockets

Ron, I got a reply from the guy with the Rockets. He said he could do a demo Monday night around 6:15 or Wednesday night around 8:20.
I think he may be doing it for one or 2 other people. Anyway, let me know if one day is better or not. I'm available either.
doh, just realized that monday is a holiday so wed. may be best.
Joelc ( 64.229.56.32 ) at 1:05 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003

Good morning...
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 12:46 PM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
DVD's and LD's : For Sale

Matt Brennan: I would also like to see a list so you can click on my name to dsend it. Both my son and I have LD.
AVB ( 64.41.32.15 ) at 11:21 AM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
DVD's and LD's : For Sale

Matt Brennan: Click on my name to send me an email with your list. Used LD are going anywhere from $.50 to a few bucks depending on what is it. Obviously, things not on DVD can bring more and box sets can still get a good price. Used DVD is again a wide range depending on the film, format, demand, OOP status or other collectible reasons. I just got Hannible for $6.50 delivered and another copy of Stargate for $5.75 delivered. An original copy of Devil's Advocate can bring as much as $30 but is usually less lately. A wide range of prices as you can see.
Matt Brennan ( 204.246.4.193 ) at 10:47 AM EST Saturday, January 18, 2003
DVD's and LD's : For Sale

Hey Folks, I am unsure if there's a market for used LD's. I have a number for sale if there migbt be interest. I have a number of DVD's for sale as well. To avoid a long thread, please e-mail me if you would like me to generate a list for you. I have NO idea what would be considered a fair market price for either a used DVD or a used LD . Would some of you please state a fair price on this forum and I will gladly negotiate directly with any interested buyers via e-mail. Thank You!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 11:50 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HD Bravo & Hallmark channels announced

This is starting to go mainstream. Stuff you may not even want to watch available in HD. Below from the PR:

"NBC, looking to demonstrate its commitment to expand and improve Bravo, plans to launch a standalone high-definition version of the cable network within the next six months, according to officials. "We really feel we need to have a place at the table in HD," David Zaslav, president of NBC Cable, said last week. "
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 9:51 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
You think that is sick?

T-Man: LMAO!
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 8:59 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Next Saturday 1/25/03

RickMTB: Following weekend works for me.
Gar ( 66.222.126.236 ) at 8:52 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Sick

Sorry to hear that anyone is sick, I know that can suck. Positive thing is hopefully you will get plenty of HT time. Get well whoever might be sick.
Gar ( 66.222.126.236 ) at 8:51 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Byork

Kieran:No biggie, I just posted what I paid because I was sorry it won't make it to him in time. It might, hopefully so I included a late fee.
Derb ( 209.244.117.230 ) at 8:50 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Next Saturday X 2

RickMTB: Wait a minute, we have now changed months Feb. 1st. OK this still looks good for me.
Ron I hope you get to feeling better, I know I don't want Chris had.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 7:53 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Next Saturday 1/25/03

Ron: LOL! It would be just like a bunch of HT fanatics to miss the Super Bowl while moving electronics around.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 7:50 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Next Saturday 1/25/03

Ron: Yikes... shows how little I concentrate on football after the Texans were eliminated ;-). I reckon I have to look at the following weekend then...
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:41 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Chris L.:Not a pretty picture.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:40 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Next Saturday 1/25/03

RickMTB:SuperBowl Sunday???
T-Man ( 208.40.137.244 ) at 7:14 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
You think that is sick?

Chris L.: Oh yeah? You call that sick? Well I was so sick, I was vomiting so hard that I passed out and when I fell, I crashed right through my bathroom floor, through our main floor and into our bottom floor where I hit the furnace which started a fire. I kept puking (fortunately) which put out the fire with very little damage. I awoke and stumbled (still puking) into our back yard where I passed out and due to the cold, developed frostbite in two of my extremities. (won't say which ones, but let's just say my wife will be flying solo for a while) When I awoke in the back yard I hobbled into the house to brush my teeth (can't stand that taste) only to puke on my first born. That started a chain reaction puke by my whole family (dogs included) in my gameroom. (no biggie as we were going to rewallpaper anyway). Well, we all passed out and when we awoke we were basically fine and dandy. It was fairly nasty all in all.

P.S. Obvously, I'm joking and I don't mean to make light of your post or illness, but it just sounded so terrible that I had to find some humor in it. Hope you're feeling better.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 7:00 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Next Saturday 1/25/03

Derb: My wife reminded me that next Saturday we are having my oldest daughters birthday party at a skating rink. Would next Sunday (1/26) afternoon after 1pm work?
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 6:52 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
"The Check is in the mail"

Seriousl. No, it really is. Seriously, thanks Brian!
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:47 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Joe's Bike

Hey guys I have not had time to go and look at anything yet. I wanted to mention it since I had questions then said nothing. I have a 3 day weekend maybe. I will go this weekend.

But I am trying to dial in a Ends Drill that bores hole in the balancer end of a crankshaft. We are still of .0006 and it is getting very frustrating.

It is done before I go home tonight or I am here this weekend.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 6:03 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Byork

Gar: I wasn't questioning your reliability. I heard good things about you way back when my best friend bought your Yamaha 995 receiver, and received it on time, in great condition, and double boxed even.

I just found it interesting that you announced your payment not only once, but twice, and even felt the need to specify the amount.

BYork is posting a list of those who've paid. IMO that is good enough.
Derb ( 207.70.162.160 ) at 5:57 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Next Saturday 1/25/03

RickMTB: Let me know what time for next weekend. I'll go and dial in the co-workers Paradigm Sub this weekend.
Gar ( 66.222.126.112 ) at 5:54 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Byork

Kieran:I thought I wrote a check for 15 bucks, but it says 20 in my check book. I always come through even if I am late, ask AVB/Curtis/Pop etc... If I
promise something I deliver. :)
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 5:42 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Kieran: Yeah. I was calling for my wife who was downstairs yapping on the phone. I should have fell down the stairs. That would teach her. :D
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 5:35 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Chris L.: NOW THAT'S SICK!
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 5:33 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

BYork: Sorry for the delay in payment. Flu and all. You wouldn't happen to be set up for Paypal would you? Might make it easier for us lazy bastards that can't get up and search for the check book. :)
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 5:32 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

RickMTB: If it's anything like the flu that had me immobilized for 3 days, then no, you do NOT want this. I have never been so sick in my life. I was vomiting so hard that I passed out on the bathroom floor, smashed my lip on the bathroom scale, and continued to vomit while unconcious. Not fun at all.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.182 ) at 5:11 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Ron: Ron, to be honest I would like to avoid getting the flu (especially since I need to fly out to California tomorrow). Lets re-schedule for another Saturday... would the following Saturday work for you and Derb??
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 4:28 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

Johnbr: Just wanted to point out though that the card does cost $800.
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 4:08 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

cai: There is a card that has the faroudia dcdi in it go to www.immersiveinc.com
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 3:39 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Byork

Gar: So, did you send him 15, then a 20, too? That's the second time you've announced your payment.
Gar ( 63.80.182.130 ) at 2:57 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Byork

FYI: I sent a 20 spot, to you
Derb ( 207.70.162.160 ) at 2:47 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Sub Help

AVB: Mr. Corn, Thanx for the input. I'll try and see what we get changing the crossover, getting rid of the splitter and moving the sub around. Only we have a fireplace on the left side wall, and putting the sub between the L/R mains may get poo pooed by his wife. Popcorn I have already said he needs to up-grade, trying to make a real HT freak takes time :)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 2:32 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

cai:
My question, though, has to do with whether having both players, my stand alone Kenwood 5900M with DCDI and an HTPC with whatever software is needed. What would I gain by having the HTPC side by side with my DCDI/DVD player? I have an extra motherboard and an extra processor that I could use to configure an HTPC or use in some other capacity
The only benefit you'll get is scaling. If you have an FP and want to scale the image, an HTPC can do it very well for very little money... not as good as some of the high end stand alone external scalers, maybe, but still VERY good, and for much less money. If you're happy with 480p, then stick with the DCDi dvd player.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 2:10 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

Johnbr: Now that you mention it, I have seen long threads at the AVS forum describing this card and its relative merits versus other scalers - mainly the Leeza and the TAW.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 1:57 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

RickMTB: I am still willing to help tommorow but I may give everyone in your home the flu. Let me know.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.141.79.90 ) at 1:48 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

Johnbr: Actually, this is kinda confusing... They call it an input card, and they say that the external part of the card is inputs, not outputs... Plus, they don't say that it can use an internal DVD player. What it looks like to me is you have to use an external source, and it turns the PC into a scaler/deinterlacer.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.141.79.90 ) at 1:42 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

Johnbr: That card is an input card, not an output card... :)
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 1:28 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

cai: There is a card that has the faroudia dcdi in it go to www.immersiveinc.com
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:08 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTOC FEE

Hey Guys! If you said you were going to get some funds to BYORK to pay for this place, then let's get it to him. Obviously he has again had to come up with money out of his own pocket to finance this place for us, because not everyone has sent him their share. While you're at it, why not send a couple extra bucks if you can spare it.

Thanks again Brian for taking care of this for us.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 12:14 PM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

Kieran: Thank you for your input. I read the notes you posted recently regarding DCDI and the two chips. That was very interesting.

My question, though, has to do with whether having both players, my stand alone Kenwood 5900M with DCDI and an HTPC with whatever software is needed. What would I gain by having the HTPC side by side with my DCDI/DVD player? I have an extra motherboard and an extra processor that I could use to configure an HTPC or use in some other capacity.

I have not bought other parts for the computer yet, so I am open to suggestions.

Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 11:38 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

cai: It depends a lot on what software dvd player you use in the HTPC. However, I don't believe ANY of them use DCDi, as that's a proprietary chip that must be bought from Faroudja. I doubt they would supply the code for DCDi to be included in a software dvd player. So, to answer your question (sort of) if you feel that having DCDi on video-sourced material is important, then you'll have to get a player with it. The thing is, it's not ONLY used for video sourced material. DCDi kicks in when the player drops out of film mode. This can happen on a film-based DVD if the mpeg encoding is poor, or the flags are not exactly correct. What DCDi does in this case is it makes it less noticable when the player drops out of film mode deinterlacing and into video mode deinterlacing. So, DCDi can benefit you even when you're watching what should be film based source material.

I highly recommend reading the literature on the subject over at www.hometheaterhifi.com (AKA "Secrets of Home Theater and HiFi"). They really explain all this quite well.
BYork ( 64.95.115.76 ) at 10:30 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

JOelC -

Thanks. Hope you're OK...!

(I figured Gar wasn't the only one who would want to know when his letter arrived...so I'll just post to the list at the top until it's done for this year.)
Joelc ( 64.229.56.162 ) at 9:07 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

BYork: Funds on the way... a little delayed as I recover from surgery!
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 9:01 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
HTPC and DCDI DVD Player

Is there an advantage to having both a DCDI progressive DVD player and an HTPC? When would it be more appropriate to use one over the other, or is this overkill?
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 8:10 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Ron: I'll email the guy today and see what I can do.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 2:10 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Gar: Yeah, the rp82, and the player I bought the cp72, both do DVD-Audio. I must say, for a net cost (after rebate) of $180, I'm VERY impressed with the cp72. And, with more and more special edition movies like SW and LOTR coming out on multiple disc sets, it's actually really nice having the 5-disc carousel.
Gar ( 63.80.182.130 ) at 2:02 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Kieran: is the Yamaha unit worth an extra $700 bucks for SACD? Nope, unless one can find it for much less. The 82 unit or the 72 you bought sounds like a very good buy. If the Yamaha can be found for $600 bucks or so, then I would say yes. It's only a matter of time before all in one units drop even further.
Gar ( 63.80.182.130 ) at 1:55 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Kieran: Does you Panasonic DVD Player do DVD-Audio?
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 1:44 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Joelc: I realized that DCDi is indeed only applicable to video sources. The Sage/Faroudja/Genesis FLI2200 chip that is so popular uses DCDi, but only for video deinterlacing, apparently. It helps make video sourced material look more like film (to put it plainly).

So, the Yamaha site is correct.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 1:41 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
DVD Players:

Gar:You said:
Looking for a player that has does all this:
Great DVD Playback DCDi chipset, Plays CDs/DVD/DVD-R/DVD-RW/SACD/DVD-Audio and MP3s etc.... And under $1500 or less.
I think the Yamaha DVD-2300 that JT mentioned is the one for you. It does everything you just listed, for under a grand. Plus the guys at Secrets rated it very highly.

Still though, $900+ is a little much to pay for what nearly amounts to a Panasonic RP-82, with SACD functionality added in (okay that's not all they added, but it's the main thing). The rp82 is available for under $200... is SACD really worth an additional $700+?
Gar ( 63.80.182.130 ) at 1:10 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

Byork my 15 bucks went out in the mail, so let me know when you get it.
Gar ( 63.80.182.130 ) at 1:10 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003

AVB: the unmarked Cigar is a Cuban. It was given to me by a friend who went there on business, government business that is. ;) I got a dozen of them, but given most of them away since I can't smoke them anymore :(
Gar ( 63.80.182.130 ) at 1:07 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Cigars

AVB: Glad you got them, no biggie on shipping, I had allot of stuff through work to send out also, so I included that box.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.138.32.98 ) at 12:25 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Sub Help

Derb: I agree with what AVB said, especially the single RCA in (without the Y adapter)... If that's still not enough, he might check into the PW series... The PS series (if I remember correctly) is a design like the Bose Acoustimass sub, which only has ports to the outside (can't think of the name at this time), where the PW series has a driver on the outside of the box.
JT ( 65.30.238.18 ) at 12:13 AM EST Friday, January 17, 2003
Yamaha DVD-s2300

Joe: MSRP is $999. I'm sure it can be found for less, but the supply is still a little tight so I hear they have been going for close to retail. I'm not sure if Kelly has any more in stock, but you might check with him. Let me know if you need his number.
AVB ( 64.41.32.58 ) at 10:01 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
Sub Help

Derb: PS1000, 175 watt RMS amp with line and speaker level ins. Should work with just one line out of the Denon without the splitter. Set the PS1000 to 150hz (max cutoff point) and you should set the receiver xover point at 100hz. It will have more bass in the corner but that may not be the best spot for it. Try 1/3 in on the short wall or middle of the long wall depending on how the system is oriented. It is the room that determines the best spot and not the sub itself.
Derb ( 64.152.255.6 ) at 9:03 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
Sub Help

I helped a co-worker set-up a new home theater rig a couple months ago. Denon AVR-2802 receiver, Studio 20 Paradigm's on stands for front LR, Studio CC for center, ADP-170 surrounds and PS1000 Sub.
Today he says the sub just does not seam quite right. Like it is lagging behind with the rest of the speakers during music. Has the the ELF connection from the receiver single rca output (crossover set at 80) to a y-splitter at he sub L-R input.
Any recommnedations on settings for the sub?
Is the crossover in the sub by-passed when using the line-level inputs? and if they are does it matter what setting the crossover it at on the sub?
If the crossover is intack using line level inputs, is there anything to be gained by using a pre-out main L-R and feeding the sub with two rca runs.
I plan on going over sometime and try to help dial it in. Thinking of trying to reverse the polls on the main L-R & Center channels or maybe we need to just move it around some.
Does anyone now if this particular sub is better suited to a certain spot, like in a corner?
Man, that's a lot of questions and I don't think he can use the (A Very Big "AVB" sub)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 8:33 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
Speaking of Sectrets' dvd player shootout...

JJ: Don't I know it! :-)

I wanted the RP-82, but none were to be found, so I got the CP-72, for LESS! The main difference is that the 72 doesn't have coax digital audio out... only toslink. No biggie IMO.

BTW, the cp-72 is a GREAT player.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 7:58 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
JT

What kind of price are you looking at on that Yamaha?
JJ ( 69.3.174.3 ) at 7:39 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
Speaking of Sectrets' dvd player shootout...

Kieran: by-the-by, The CP72 is considered the changer version of the rp82.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:15 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003

BC:I arive in Dallas on monday and will be there for the week. What are chances that you could set up a audition of the Rockets for one of the evenings? If you can put it together dinner will be my treat.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:36 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
Speaking of Sectrets' dvd player shootout...

Shootout #3 is now online, posted on 1/14/03. They have some very interesting things to say about a lot of different players, currently on the market. Here are some highlights.
I found this quote very surprising:
The most positive thing we can say about this player is that it's the best Pioneer player we've looked at. Sadly, that really isn't enough. This player should be better, given its price and its THX certification. Given that you can now get a universal SACD/DVD-A player from Yamaha with excellent video, we can't recommend this player at all.
That was in reference to the Pioneer Elite DV-47Ai.
Regarding the new Sony 999:

We recall the Sony 7000 fondly. At the time, the 7000 was the best built and best looking DVD player around. Sony really did make a statement with that piece. We are still waiting for Sony to make a replacement that exceeds their work on the 7000.

The 7700 was the direct replacement for the 7000 and it was a step backwards in the performance department for Sony. It was also the first Sony player to have the Chroma Upsampling Error, something the 7000 did not have.

Sony replaced the 7700 with the 9000. In the build quality department, the 9000 was better built than either the 7700 or 7000, but it still suffered from the Chroma Upsampling Error. It had some impressive video performance but wasn't so good in the deinterlacing department.

It appears the new 999 is the replacement for the 9000, but just like the 7700 did not meet the bar set by the 7000, the 999 does not meet the bar set by the 9000.
...(and in conclusion)...
In general, we think Sony can do better than this. Especially at this price point, it's just not competitive with other players that get more core details right. The shimmering problem with high detail scenes is alone annoying enough to keep us from recommending this player.
And on Panasonic...
While the RP82 delivers one of the most accurate images we have seen, combined with top-notch deinterlacing, it can be improved on. To start with, we hope that Panasonic can speed up the layer change and response on future players. That said, we certainly recommend this player highly. It is clearly the best value in DVD players as of this writing.

This is the first and only progressive scan DVD player to receive the Secrets Recommended 480p award.
Yamaha 2300...
Finally a universal player (capable of playing both SACD and DVD-A) that actually produces good video. This is the only universal player on the market as of this writing (January 2003) that does not have the Chroma Upsampling Error.
...snip...
In general this is a very good player from a video standpoint, though the chroma delay is disappointing. The flaws, however, are relatively minor, and for the most part this is equivalent in video quality to the Panasonic RP-82, which is one of the best players we've seen. Certainly this player is head and shoulders better than any of the other universal players we've looked at.
Anyway, y'all can go check out the entire article if you want. I think these guys are doing the dvd industry a huge favor by being so critical and unbiased.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:04 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003

Joelc: It's not that one is much better than the Faroudja chip, more that DCDi gives the Faroudja chip the edge on video sources, whereas SI has the edge on film. Here's an excerpt from the Secrets' progressive-dvd shootout page:
Genesis/Sage/Faroudja vs. Silicon Image

These two chipsets are clearly the best available right now for progressive DVD applications, and the question often comes up of which is better. Unfortunately, it's not a simple answer. For video-sourced material, the Genesis has the better picture with fewer obvious jagged artifacts. The DCDi™ processing can really improve difficult video signals. It's not a panacea, and it can't make video look like film, but it does improve things. That said, the Silicon Image video deinterlacing is very good as well. But we'd have to give Genesis the edge here.

In film deinterlacing, the two are also very good, though they each have their strengths and weaknesses. The Silicon Image is better at staying in film mode when there are hiccups in the 3-2 cadence, which is good because is maintains the full resolution as much as possible. The Genesis chip's tends to go into video mode more often and stay there longer. Because of the DCDi™ processing, it's not always obvious when the Genesis goes into video mode, but careful attention to the high-detail areas of the scene show that the Genesis chip does tend to drop into video mode more often.

Because the Genesis chip goes into video mode more often, it is slightly less susceptible to combing, because at the first indication of combing, it immediately goes into video mode, and stays there until the cadence is clean again. On the other hand, during the time it's in video mode, the viewer is losing much of the fine detail in the scene. We found quite a few films that tripped up the Genesis, even though the cadence was fine. On most of these, the Silicon Image would stay in film mode the whole time, but the Genesis would drop in and out of film mode.

We've done extensive testing on the 2-2 pulldown performance of the two chips, and it's clear that the Silicon Image is much better at detecting 2-2 pulldown and staying in film mode with 2-2 material. In its default configuration, the Genesis doesn't have 2-2 pulldown enabled at all for NTSC, though it is enabled when it's in PAL mode. Even in PAL mode, the FLI2200 doesn't do quite as good a job at properly detecting 2-2 progressive. On the flip side, though, the Silicon Image combs more often on video material, because it more often incorrectly identifies video as 2-2 progressive. This just serves to highlight how difficult it is to always 'do the right thing' in deinterlacing.

Still, much of this is splitting hairs. Both of these chips are excellent, and in our view represent what you should expect from a progressive DVD player. Either one of them will deinterlace the vast majority of discs with no noticeable artifacts. If you watch a lot of video sourced material, or you want the chroma bug hiding or cross-color hiding features, the Genesis is probably a notch better. But for film sources, it's a tossup, with perhaps a slight edge to the Silicon Image.

Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 3:36 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003

RickMTB: I should know when I wake up tommorow if this wil be a minor or major bout of the flu.
T-Man ( 208.40.136.69 ) at 2:13 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
newbie-Big Steelers fan

BYork: Not a bad idea.
BYork ( 204.151.114.9 ) at 12:29 PM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
newbie-Big Steelers fan

Brock -

I agree with T-Man. By now Kordell should have grown into the Q-Back role. I think Cowher gave him more than enough time to do so, but he never did.

OTOH, I have a hard time thinking Maddox is a good long-term choice for QB either....maybe they should start tracking up-and-coming choices from the college ranks to obtain and bring along as Tommy's eventual replacement?
Joelc ( 216.223.140.14 ) at 11:34 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003

Ron: Hope that you get well soon!

Kieran: OK.. so I know little. What chipste is better than DCDi? Is it the 504 made by SI?
T-Man ( 209.166.149.70 ) at 11:11 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
newbie-Big Steelers fan

Brock: Kordell is too inconsistent. Good back-up but questionable starter. Doesn't matter though, because he will not be on the team next year. They will try to trade him and if they can't, I predict they will cut him.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.182 ) at 9:25 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003

Ron: Hope you feel better. If you don't by next Friday evening we can postpone next saturday's project. btw, Marisa's school sent home a note warning parents that a flu bug was going around.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 9:12 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003

Woke up with the Flu. My head is about to explode.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 2:06 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
dot-bomb ghost town...

Kieran: Just add a foosball & pool table, some Macs for the graphic designers and this looks just like countless dot.bombs I have seen way too many times. Your guy probably didn't have access to the server/router rooms - they're usually a bigger mess! The "Fire Marshall didn't like this" shot is priceless - a hundred plugs going into a single outlet.

All those miles of carefully labeled CAT5 cables usually get ripped out by the clueless landlords who think they're eyesores - duh! I have become jaded to the point where nothing surprises me any longer. Like a neutron bomb went off - all the people are gone but the machines remain. In dot-bombs everyone has to leave so quickly that there are lots of personal photos still tacked up on the cube walls. It's easy to see how hard people worked for great dreams that amounted to smoke & ash. Most of the perfectly good hardware ends up getting sold for a small percentage of what it's worth, because the investors that bought it panic and take any offers they can get. In short, it really is a depressing scene.

I have to get out of this business sooner than later.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 1:31 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
dot-bomb ghost town...

"February of 2000" should read, "February of 2001."
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 1:30 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
dot-bomb ghost town...

I'm sure many of you have seen scenes very similar to what's pictured here:
http://www.sonic.net/~ehenry/agilent/
I'm sure Curtis, BC, and RickMTB, possibly others have seen sights like this first-hand.

The above web site shows pictures of the abandoned Light Wave Division buildings of Agilent Technologies. My former cubicle is actually shown in one of the shots, if you know what to look for. Not exactly a dot-bomb, as Agilent (and Light Wave) still exist. However in our heyday, LWD was over 200 strong in R&D + marketing *alone* (some 400+ in manufacturing) R&D+marketing is now less than 40 people, and were moved back to the original Agilent/HP plant in Santa Rosa (where I began work there.) The "airport site" where LWD moved in February of 2000, to accomodate their tremendous growth, is now abandoned, less than two years later.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 1:16 AM EST Thursday, January 16, 2003
DVD Players:

JT: I checked out the yammie site on that 2300 you mentioned. I find this very strange:
* DCDi is not applicable to image from film sources.
That's in fine print at the bottom of the page. I know that DCDi is not as good at film deinterlacing as some other chips, but AFAIK, the DCDi chip *does* do deinterlacing on film sources. I wonder why Yamaha says it doesn't for their player...?
JT ( 65.30.238.18 ) at 11:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
DVD Players:

Gar: Take a look at the new Yamaha 2300. I have one and am really pleased with the performance so far on video and regular 5 channel audio. I don't own any DVD Audio or SACD discs yet to test that capability. I need to find some good material to buy. Anyway, here is a link. http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/DVD/DVDS2300.htm
Joelc ( 64.229.62.58 ) at 9:38 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003

Have a good evening guys...
AVB ( 64.41.33.186 ) at 5:47 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Giant Sub picture update

Go to my bio and they are Row 2, #2 & #3. Front baffel with grill and front baffel waiting for speakers.
Derb ( 207.70.162.160 ) at 5:38 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Bring Tools Of Destruction You Bet !!!

RickMTB: Saturday 18th after 1:00, Homer voice "Hmmmmmmm Scientific Experimants, drool , drool
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 5:32 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Apple Lapzilla, iPod & HDTV

Carlos_E: I am not aware of nor have I ran accross a posting about anything new from Sony.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:21 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Mariucci Out!

Gasgeek: Well that was quick. Nobody here is surprised - win your division + a playoff game - get fired. Carman Policy (now w/ the Browns) brought Mooch in and he has always an outsider with Walsh & Terry Donahue in the front office.

I vote for Holmgren to get out of his Seattle gig. He already lost his GM role. Denny Green would work too. Anyone who knows how to light a fire under the team.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 4:57 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Mariucci Out!

Curtis: Guess everyone knew this was coming.
BYork ( 171.72.5.75 ) at 4:56 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003

JohnBR - Got your email...reply is on the way back to you.
BYork ( 171.72.5.75 ) at 4:19 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003

AVB - Got your pics. They're posted, and viewable on your bio page now.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.182 ) at 4:01 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Ron H and Derb... email coming

Derb: Yup, bring it all if it isn't too much of an inconvenience. I am coaching a basketball game at 10:30 but it only takes an hour and its about 30 minutes from my home. How about ANY time after 1pm? Laurie is making some scientific experiments, er, interesting appetizers and other food for us to sample. I will have a few cold beverages too...
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 3:59 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
newbie-Big Steelers fan

Brock: Not as annoyed as Giants fans are, even the league admitted that the refs blew the call. Never liked Cordell, though. I think the present Qb. did a more than fair job - does the Cleveland game mean anything?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 3:54 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Balanced Connectors

JohnO: Saw the new Reference 50 processor from B&K, it has balanced inputs and outputs. It matches the new amplifier that has balanced inputs. The balanced inputs to the AV pre/pro are just in case one has a balanced output CD/DVD player. Not a bad unit for under $3,000. Cannot see why the Lexicon with balanced outputs costs $1,000 more than without. Does it cost that much to incorporate those outlets?
Brock ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 3:52 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
newbie-Big Steelers fan

Mr.T-Man; Our team's future (I take it you just love the Steelers) is not with Tommy M!! Kordell is king. (I'll bet you agree) Put Kordell behind center and let his insticnts take over.Were you as devastated by that horrible call to end the game as I was? So unfair,it still hurts. Did you watch it in HD? Got to go.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 3:50 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
HDTV PVR

Kieran: That is not all, if you have the JVC HD tape deck, you can download PVR 921 HD recorded shows onto the tape player via a firewire connection. This unit does seem quite nifty, except for the price - in the $1,000 to $2,000 range. Pick any number in between those two and your guess is as good as that of rep at the show. It also has the 8VSB OTA reception module, so one can get satellite as well as land HD signals to record.
Carlos_E ( 162.84.201.239 ) at 3:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Apple Lapzilla, iPod & HDTV

Ron: I saw the 34" Sony direct view in a store about a month ago and I thought it looked great. I also saw a few direct view wide screens from Toshiba and Samsung??? I don't remember. Do you know if Sony announced a new wide screen model at CES? I'd hate to go ahead and buy the TV only to find out an updated version is coming out in the next few months.
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 3:05 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Apple Lapzilla, iPod & HDTV

Carlos_E: Welcome back to the fold. I have not spent a lot of time with the Sony but the ones I have looked at on the showroom floor are just awesome. They truly are close to looking out a window when viewing a HD feed.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.141.74.63 ) at 2:22 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Pioneer 47xi

Kieran: I meant from a legal and "software you buy at the store" point of view :)
BYork ( 171.72.5.75 ) at 2:18 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Site Subscription: PAID

Wild Bill: -

On it's way.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.132.206 ) at 2:03 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Site Subscription: PAID

BYork: I'm going through e-mail problems. Can you send your address to AVLucas@aol.com? I'm glad to send the check. I just need your address. Thanks.
Derb ( 207.70.162.160 ) at 2:03 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Ron H and Derb... email coming

RickMTB: Got your e-mail. I think it will take me an hour to get to the woodlands. What time should I plan on showing up? I have two furniture dolly's and a hand truck should I bring them on up? Do we need any kind of fish tapes for wires or anything of that sort?
BYork ( 171.72.5.75 ) at 1:30 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Site Subscription: PAID

Just so everyone knows....I didn't forget to pay the bill!

Thanks to all of you who have already sent your $14 contribution. Getting the $$$ ahead of time is greatly appreciated!
AVB ( 64.41.32.116 ) at 12:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Cigars

Gar: They arrived safely but you shouldn't have sent so much for shipping, I appreciate it though. Cool lighter too!
Gar ( 66.222.126.244 ) at 9:54 AM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Apple Lapzilla, iPod & HDTV

Carlos_E: I was told by the guys at Apple to turn the hold button on when you have the unit off. Otherwise it keeps on accessing the hardrive and wares the
battery down. There Warr. is good if they stand behind it which I think they have, I got an extended one on mine. Glad to here you like the new PowerBook, I want one, but there expensive. Also glad to see you in here, hope all is well.
Gar ( 66.222.126.244 ) at 9:51 AM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003

trav1: I have a Mac and a PC now, both have DVD burners in them. The Mac burns DVDs in about half the amount of time my PC does. I have made 7movies so far using iMovie of my 3 year old and my last vacation using iDVD and iMovie. Currently looking for a DVD unit that will do all I listed below.
trav1 ( 192.76.80.74 ) at 9:04 AM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
DVD Players:

Gar: Didn't you have a dvd burner for your pc and then you switched to the mac? Or is it the same unit?
Carlos_E ( 162.84.201.239 ) at 8:43 AM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Apple Lapzilla, iPod & HDTV

Hey Guys, long time no see. I haven't been around for a while, I kinda dropped out of the HT scene due to lack of funds but it looks like I'll be getting back into the game. :-)

I read the down the page Gar mentioned the 17" Apple PowerBook. (I call it Lapzilla cause it's so damn big) I plan to order one as soon as they start shipping.

I also saw a few questions about the iPod. I've gone through 3 of them. I take my iPod with me to the gym and I have a habit of dropping them till they break. Apple is very good with the warranty policy. If your iPod is still under warranty you go to the customer support site, fill out a form and they send you a prepaid shipping box to overnight your iPod to them and they overnight a replacement back to you. Apparently it's more cost effective for them to send you a new replacement versus fixing the damage iPod. Which works fine for me. :-) Turn around time for warranty replacement is about 3-4 days. I hope that info helps.

Also any suggestions for a direct view HDTV? What do you guys think of the Sony 40"? I'd prefer getting a wide screen direct view. Any suggestions?
Joelc ( 64.229.53.119 ) at 6:50 AM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003

Good morning gang!!
Kieran ( 209.148.113.63 ) at 2:12 AM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
Pioneer 47xi

Scott "popcorn":
Computers won't be able to decrypt the signal (or, at least not be able to record encrypted signals).
Unless some hackers get lucky and break the encryption, like they did with DVD.
Gar ( 66.222.126.221 ) at 12:49 AM EST Wednesday, January 15, 2003
DVD Players:

Curtis: Yes, a Road well traveled. I did not buy a DVD player last time we were talking about this, still waiting for the all in one cool unit. Thanks for the link.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 11:50 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
DVD Players:

Gar: Elite 47Ai, right? Haven't we bben down this road before?

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/CDA/HomeProducts/HomeProductDetails/0,1422,92380,00.html
Scott "popcorn" ( 64.218.216.170 ) at 11:47 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Pioneer 47xi

Gar: While the Pioneer unit might have only audio on the Firewire, if a player does come out with firewire video output, you can bet it will be encrypted. The whole "copy protection" issue is for encryption of the signal through firewire... nope, no macrovision. Instead, unless your video device can decrypt the signal, you see nothing. Computers won't be able to decrypt the signal (or, at least not be able to record encrypted signals).
Gar ( 66.222.126.48 ) at 10:32 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
The following Peter Gabriel titles are expected tobe released in SACD on 3/11--COOL!

Robert: Great News! Fan here.
Gar ( 66.222.126.48 ) at 10:30 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
DVD Players:

Looking for a player that has does all this:
Great DVD Playback DCDi chipset, Plays CDs/DVD/DVD-R/DVD-RW/SACD/DVD-Audio and MP3s etc.... And under $1500 or less.
Gar ( 66.222.126.48 ) at 10:27 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Pioneer 47xi

Kieran:/John : I was curious because someone told me that the Pioneer unit also had video via Firewire. Cleared that up.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 10:09 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
HDTV PVR

Check out Dishnetwork's PVR-921.
Pretty sweet!

At 40 hours of HDTV per 250GB of disc space, they're alloting only 14.2mbps bandwidth for HDTV. Enough, but certainly not maximal (19.23 mbps I think is the max for HDTV.)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 10:01 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
New Panasonic rptv models

Panasonic continues to lead the price battle for affordable rp-hdtv's:

MODEL
AVAILABILITY
MSRP*

PT-56WX53
May, 2003
$1,999.95

PT-53WX53
May, 2003
$1,799.95

PT-47WX53
May, 2003
$1,599.95

Say what you want about used FP's for the same price, but RPTV's continue to be the best option for many people, and at MSRP's like that, they are becoming much more affordable. I can vouch for the quality of these sets, too. The main improvement the new ones offer over mine is DVI inputs.
JT ( 65.30.238.18 ) at 8:56 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
JT

Robert: So, any progress on the house front? I have a buddy at work that lives in Longacres. He likes it there pretty well. We also looked in Edina, but it is tough to find homes with rooms big enough for home theaters, pool tables, etc. Unless you get a really big one, that is, and that can be damn pricey.
JT ( 65.30.238.18 ) at 8:52 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Lexicon

Robert: Just let me know if you want to talk to Kelly or if you want me to check prices.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:30 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Parasound 2500u HD component switching upgrade

This is the thing I am missing on my prepro. Not cheap ($500) & they have to do the work, yet good to know it's available. When P says "no degradation of signal" I tend to belive them. Brief blurb from their site ...

The HDTV-2500 is an ultra-wide bandwidth video board upgrade that enables the component video inputs of the AVC-2500u to switch high definition signals up to 1080i with beautiful clarity and no degradation of signal quality. Please note, because character generators interfere with high definition signals, the AVC-2500u’s on-screen menu will not appear on your component video output after this upgrade. The HDTV-2500 upgrade is only being done at the Parasound technical department.
JohnO ( 68.100.181.99 ) at 7:58 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Balanced Connectors

cai: Never seen a home made balanced connector. They do offer superior noise rejection, which on high end systems would be a benefit. If you have separates I would check them out.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 7:51 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
DSS bitrate

Anyone know what the average bitrate is for a standard 480i picture off satellite? Assume that the DSS provider was handing this show a lot of bandwidth (high viewer potential, like a big movie, big game, election coverage, popular show, etc.)

What's the average bit rate for a DVD with DD5.1 audio?

I'm trying to compare DSS, DVD and cable to the bitrate of HDTV, which for most OTA broadcasters is in the 15mbps range.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 6:19 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Ron H and Derb... email coming

I hope the email in Derb's bio is correct... :-)
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 5:29 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
The following Peter Gabrial titles are expected to be released in SACD on 3/11--COOL!

Birdy (Soundtrack)
Passion (Soundtrack)
Peter Gabriel 1
Peter Gabriel 2
Peter Gabriel 3
Plays Live
Security
Shaking the Tree: 16 Golden Greats
So
Us
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 5:06 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Pioneer 47xi

Gar: One can "download" (aka rip) a dvd movie to one's hard-drive with nothing more than a dvd-rom drive and some software of questionable legality that is readily available on the internet.
Cost: the price of the dvd-rom drive.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 4:56 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Pioneer 47xi

Gar: The DV47ai's firewire out is audio only. video still goes through component/s/composite.
Gar ( 66.222.127.201 ) at 4:53 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Pioneer 47xi

I think I have this model right. If this uses a Firewire out, why couldn't someone download a DVD movie using a computer via firewire to download it? Or do they use Macrovision on the firewire outputs of the DVD player?
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.182 ) at 12:12 PM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

Ron: Great... I will email you directions to my place (its easy to get to, btw). Too bad Derb will be coming from the other direction (for car pool purposes)...
Ron ( 208.195.242.212 ) at 11:51 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

RickMTB: OK I will be ready to go.
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 11:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

BYork - I dropped your check in the mail this morning.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.182 ) at 9:50 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

Ron: Yup, especially if Derb is also still available. Laurie will be in happy spirits, btw, since she just sent us into major debt buying new furniture for the living room (and hence the need to reconfigure that room). I am coaching basketball in the morning, so any time in the afternoon would work best for me (and remember to bring appetite and thirst!). Shouldn't really take long... I hope to mount speakers the night before, so it will be just moving equipment, the large/heavy cabinet into my office, and hoping everything works in the new locations (plus a little testing and tuning).
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 7:48 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

Good morning guys.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 7:47 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

Joelc: Thanks. Good morning back at you.
Joelc ( 64.229.53.151 ) at 5:32 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

Good morning gang.

Ron, welcome back from vacation.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 5:28 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003

RickMTB: Are we still on for Saturday?
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.137.71.170 ) at 2:23 AM EST Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Back from CES

Robert: Thanks... Now I'm going to have to try to find an app to open a paurpaunt file with... :P
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.182 ) at 4:17 PM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: Too bad they didn't have them set up for a listen. Seems a shame to get a product all the way to a show and not have a way to have potential customers know whether its a good product or not...
Rich F ( 12.45.34.157 ) at 1:43 PM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

RickMTB: I saw the Totems but it was a static display. There was just too much to see but The Show, which is set up in hotel rooms, was much better for demos, the main floors were really show and sell areas and not demo.
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 11:18 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: OEL = Organic Electroluminescent
Robert ( 12.218.0.16 ) at 11:16 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

Scott "popcorn": I just forwarded some info on OEL to you.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.182 ) at 9:59 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: Did you get a chance to listen to the small Totems at the show? I know you were also looking at others Joseph Audios and Dynaudios but curious if you saw the Totems...
Rich F ( 12.45.34.157 ) at 2:18 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

cai: I got to see the 15" OEL at the Samsung and it was one og the most amazing things I saw. The other was the 3' copper coated cone speakers with a power requirement of 3 - 10 watts. Ya think they had tube amps in mind? They sounded great. That was at the Show and definitely was as good as the main CES displays. It was the money burner session for sure.
Rich F ( 12.45.34.157 ) at 2:15 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

cai: Actually we did go and it was quite entertaining. It was much better than my expectations. I was in the middle of the auditorium right in front of the camera stand and also at the after party. Great sushi. It was a fun party but the award ceremony lasted a little long. I did not get to see the Joseph Audio. I tried to find them but couldn't and I was really pressed for time. I guess I shouldn't have taken that 90 minutes at the Bellagio for the champaigne brunch. I am going to try and get over to Magnolia HiFi and see if they have the Sonus Faber Guaneri Homage speakers and the Cremona center. I got into Seattle too late to see it today but should make it tomorrow night.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:37 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Switching sports...

The Austrailian Open that began tonight on ESPN2 , on now, is painful to watch after the CBS HD and even Faux 480p widescreen football the past two days. It's as if I suddenly, REALLY need glasses (reading; yes, TV viewing; no).
Gar ( 66.222.126.30 ) at 12:37 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Balanced Connectors

cai: Most balanced connectors can reduce "floor noise" hiss etc..... Long runs is mostly why manufactures are using Balanced cables because they help in reducing floor noise and interference etc. Sold these cables for years, but after A/B ing many cables over the years there isn't much difference, but I am sure this can be debated over and over. The Techs at B&K and Lexicon told me they made balanced units for long run applications. Although I had a Threshold system that had a Balanced CD Player, Pre/Amp and Amp, and that did sound better than just regular RCA Cables, but that was my ears back then ;)
cai ( 209.170.209.22 ) at 12:16 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Balanced Connectors

JohnO and Wild Bill: Glad to hear from you. Is it possible for us mortals to make balanced connectors? What is the advantage to using them? What kind of wire is needed to make XLR balanced connectors?

The new B&K reference 50 processor has balanced inputs and outputs, it looks most impressive on paper. I wonder if the sound is as good as its looks. The new B&K amplifier has balanced inputs, so there is a matched pair of components.

cai ( 209.170.209.22 ) at 12:06 AM EST Monday, January 13, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: I am glad you enjoyed "The Show". I did not go this year and from what you said, maybe I should have. I did see the OEL screens, but in cellular telephones.

Did you get a chance to listed to the Joseph Audios? He had the RM7s set up, along with the new RM33s.

I was most impressed with the all digital Bel Canto amplifier and with the Plinius amplifier. Very solid pair of new offerings.

I take it that you did not go to the "Monster" show, Robert and I did. We looked for you but could not find you, so we guessed you did not make it.

Gar ( 66.222.126.30 ) at 8:02 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
AUUUUUUGH!!!!!

Curtis: Any bad call can affect the outcome of the game, that is just the way it is I guess. I saw a few during the SF and TB game, but you are right , SF was Flat.
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.33.41 ) at 7:36 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: Here is one article on OEL... http://www.twice.com/index.asp?layout=story_stocks&articleid=CA185388

And here's an article on LEP... http://www.futureprint.kent.edu/articles/chapchal01.htm
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.33.41 ) at 7:28 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: Hmmm... I don't know what all types of organic display research is going on... but I do know I like the LEP (light emitting polymer) organic display technology. I'm patiently waiting for computer monitors using this technology to be available. Basically, it will be the size (or a bit thinner than) LCD monitors, but will all the advantages of a CRT (unlimited colors, etc.)
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 4:37 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Back from CES

Scott "popcorn": The technology is called OEL but I got a look at it as I was literally running through the hall to get to the airport for my plane. It was a samsung unit. I am not sure what the OEL stands for but it was most kooooooool.
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 4:36 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Back from CES

Gar: You are probaly right about that but I would prefer to have a new one out of the box then a used one. I will most likely go for it but we will have to see since I just got that JennAir barbecue I have been looking at.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:22 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
AUUUUUUGH!!!!!

Gar: The refs had nothing to do with the outcome of this game. The 9ers were flat and Tampa was on fire. Mooch is history here - not fair but he's the head counseler at Camp Super Bowl or Pink Slip.

There's still hopes the Raiders will make it. Many people here would love to see them beat Gruden in the SB.
Gar ( 66.222.126.143 ) at 2:47 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
AUUUUUUGH!!!!!

Curtis: Ah, there is some lame call playing today in favor TB. I say let them play also, I am sick and tired of seeing after a play is over with, if the person complains enough they finally throw the flag. Geez! Come on guys.
Gar ( 66.222.126.143 ) at 2:44 PM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: The Lexicon trade is tempting, but even after the 60 days is up, would imagine you will be seeing demos and even new units for $3k to 4K. Reason I say this is because the MC-12 demo and used units are selling for 6K and 7K. Also the new Dynaudio Contour series sounds tempting.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 2:00 AM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003

Curtis: Got the antenna up on the roof and watched Enemy of the State in HD on ABC tonight... OTA! I can't leave the antenna up there (it's already back down in the garage.) But I CAN get ABC, so the superbowl is happening here in HD! My signal is not super strong, but the DISH6000 box is pretty good... it seems to get a better lock the longer you watch a channel. ABC is the only channel I got, though... I think I need an amplifier for the rest of the networks.

I'm using a Channel Master 4248 UHF yaggi.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:56 AM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
AUUUUUUGH!!!!!

BYork: I know how bad it feels to have your team lose a big one, but don't blame the refs for everything. There was a legit looking interception by the 49ers in that final Giants drive that wasn't called. Let's hope that the NY based (Park Avenue) NFL doesn't decide to "even things out" in the Raider/Jets game tomorrow.

Let them all play and decide the outcome. Next year for your team ;-)
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.34.198 ) at 1:47 AM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Back from CES

Rich F: TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS 15" ORGANIC SCREEN!!! (can you tell I'm excited?) What brand had it? 720p, was it just for HDTV, or did it double as a computer monitor? Was this the LEP technology?
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 1:27 AM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
AUUUUUUGH!!!!!

What a way to lose. (I've been a Steelers fan for over 35 years...since before Greene/Bradshaw/Lambert/Swann/Harris, etc. etc.)

Is it me, or have the refs been particularly bad in the playoffs this year. It's like they decided after the SNAFU in the Giants/49'ers game, they couldn't POSSIBLY do worse....
Rich F ( 68.98.38.192 ) at 1:02 AM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Back from CES

WOW. What an amazing show. The most incredible part of it was a non CES event that one of you told me about at the San Remo (I think it was Gar.) This was true disneyland for audiophiles. I saw a $600,000 set of Wisdom speakers, a $36,000 turntable with hydraulics and heard countless other systems that were all in the stratospheric range. I saw the Dynaudio line but couldn't hear it but I also saw the Sonus Faber Guaneri Homage and it is incredibley made. I will be in Seattle tomorrow where I think there is a pair for me to hear. The video technology is equally amazing with a 15" organic screen that was truly less than 1/2" thick but was 720p and bright. It blew us all away. I also saw some small organic screens that will most likely make their way into Samsung Digital phones by March. The Lexicon line looks great and once again, the unofficial word is a $3k trade in in couple weeks that will last about 60 days and then the same for the balanced version.
Gar ( 66.222.126.75 ) at 12:19 AM EST Sunday, January 12, 2003
Imone

Try this site:

http://www.regionfreedvd.net/players.html
Tony C ( 68.72.135.129 ) at 11:27 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

G'night gents. The limo comes at 4AM. If there's a cyber cafe on one of the islands, I'll stop in to say hi.

I like this DSL thing. Can't wait to get the other computer back to "network"
see ya.
BAGMAN ( 64.45.227.89 ) at 9:24 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

T-Man: Agreed. Should use the college system...both teams get the ball. You know what I mean.
T-Man ( 209.166.185.174 ) at 8:55 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

BAGMAN: Well they had their chances but it is a tough way to lose. An overtime game like that makes you rethink the system and consider the way college does it. Not necessarily getting the ball at the twenty, but that both teams get to touch the ball. You should have see Cowhers (very short) press conference after the game. He was livid. Pissed beyond belief at the officiating and that last penalty.
BAGMAN ( 64.45.227.89 ) at 8:34 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

T-Paper: Good game!! Looked liked the script was going your way again, too bad. Cowher is your best asset, wish the Browns had him.
BAGMAN ( 64.45.227.89 ) at 8:31 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

Kieran: Saw the end of the game. Great results.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 8:30 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

Kieran: Titans 34-31 final. What a finish... all I have to say is the Titans are LUCKY. I couldn't care less about either team, but it was a good game.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 7:51 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

BAGMAN: A Titan field goal just tied the game at 31-31... 5:40 left in the 4th
BAGMAN ( 64.45.227.89 ) at 7:14 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

Kieran: Thankyou Sir, may this trend continue.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 7:06 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

BAGMAN: It's 20-28 Titans right now... about 2:30 left in the 3rd.
Curtis: Did you notice how some of the shots are not HD? I find that interesting...
BAGMAN ( 64.45.227.89 ) at 6:54 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Is signs a good movie?

T-Man: How true, on most counts. Still.... Very pedestrian. Speaking of pedestrian, how are the Steelers doing?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:39 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
HD football

Tune into CBS now f(if you're HD enabled) for the way football should always look
Tony C ( 68.72.138.160 ) at 5:18 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
HELP

Kieran: Good job of explaining.
You know I still have one of those Mintek DVD players in the unopened box in my basement. It's a 2100 something. I was at Best Buy on the Friday after Thanksgiving and I couldn't resist buying one for $50 after rebate.
At that price, I don't think that option C is possible, but you never know.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 3:59 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
HELP

Simone: Hello and welcome to the forum. If your cousin bought the DVD player in the USA, then most dvd movies that you buy in Brazil will not play properly on that DVD player. The reason is because dvd movies are "region coded". What this means is that a dvd player from a certain geographical region will play only movies purchased in that geographical region. So, you are in the South America region, to play movies purchased in that region, you need a dvd player purchased in that region. SOME movies, (that are not locked to a certain region) will play okay, but most movies purchased in your region will not play in your player.

So, to fix your problem, you need to either
A) get a new DVD player from a local store (sorry)
B) Buy all your dvd movies through mail order from the United States
or C) have the Mintek DVD player modified to be "region free"

Option "C" may not be possible, depending on the dvd player. I am not familiar with Mintek. You would also need to find a dvd technician who knows how to modify the players, and these people are hard to find, because such modifications are gennerally not legal.

Hope this helps
Gar ( 66.222.127.112 ) at 3:31 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Curtis

How much is it? Looks pretty sweet.
Gar ( 66.222.127.112 ) at 3:28 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Question?

Curtis: As Aways thanks for the good link and info!!
Gar ( 66.222.127.112 ) at 3:27 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
HELP

imone: You need a region free player in order to play discs from the USA and Brazil etc..
There are some players out there that are region free but not many DVD manufactuers went this route.
imone ( 200.248.179.4 ) at 3:10 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
HELP

Hello,
My name is Simone Bittencourt and I live in Brazil.
A cousin mine who lives in the USA brought to me in December 2002, a DVD Player Mintek, model 1600.
The probelm is some DVD don`t play in the DVD Player. Appear the message "Wrong Region" on the TV display. I took to some technicians here in Brazil, but they don`t know this trademark. They said that need a code number to decodify it.
Please, could you help me?
Thanks a lot.
Simone Bittencourt ezio@mikrus.com.br
Scott "popcorn" ( 64.218.216.165 ) at 1:30 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Forum problem

Kieran: Yes, I feel somewhat dirty... Though, for my business, I have to use NS and IE on a regular basis to check for browser compatibility. :)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:29 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Question?

Gar: This Extron will handle 6 x Component ins - you said good, not good AND cheap!

http://www.extron.com/product/product.asp?id=sw6cs
Gar ( 66.222.127.231 ) at 12:47 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
The final results

Joe: My Degree is in Public Health and Ex Phys. And boy do I need to get back into shape. I am so far 6 days straight at the Gym, still got a long way to go. Congrads!
Gar ( 66.222.127.231 ) at 12:45 PM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Question?

Is there a component video switcher around that does a good job? I have Xbox/PS2 and 2 DVD players I want to hookup the best video route of course, so that is why I am looking at a component switcher if they make one.
T-Man ( 208.40.136.80 ) at 11:02 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
The final results

Joe: Nice job.
Joe ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 10:25 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
The final results

T-Man: It's possible we have hit a new low, talking about my weight.
T-Man ( 208.40.136.80 ) at 9:59 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
The final results

Joe: I don't know Joe, with all that weight you lost the $352 would by a lot of deep dish pizzas.
Joe ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 9:47 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Signs

I will have to watch this tonight and see what I think.
Joe ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 9:46 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
The final results

Well the little wieght loss contest I have been in is finallly over. My wifes cousins and some frineds started in August and ended this past Wendesday. I got so tierd of hearing them talk about it I said I would play also.

So in August we started $10 a person and $1 for every mised exercise day. The pot spilt 2 ways the most wieght lost and the least days missed. I ended up winning half $352 was my take.

I was happy with the wieght I lost, but the $352 increased my Bike fund a bit.
JJ ( 69.3.173.190 ) at 7:57 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
DSL

Scott "popcorn": fyi. linksys uses browser too (mine anyway)
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 3:15 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Forum problem

Scott "popcorn": Glad to be of service. Do you feel dirty now, having used IE and NS? ;-)
Scott "popcorn" ( 209.184.9.208 ) at 2:45 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
DSL

Rich F: I haven't set up a linksys router, but I have done a DLink and a Netgear before. The DLink was easy, using a web browser. The Netgear could use either proprietary software (windows) or a telnet terminal.

As for the firewall, just read the manual. It should be fairly easy to set up, and no, you don't need the same OS on each computer. Probably the trickiest part is telling the firewall what to allow and what not to, and I believe a router by linksys should make this relatively easy to configure.
Scott "popcorn" ( 209.184.9.208 ) at 2:23 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Forum problem

Kieran: For a while I thought you had found a bug in Internet Explorer... However, tonight I finally got a chance to look at it happening in IE, and I looked at the source (and also in Netscape 6.2)... Turns out it's my error. I'll get it fixed in the next week. The close form tags are both winding up at the end of the post instead of a form open, form close, form open, and form close.
Tony C ( 68.72.119.76 ) at 12:56 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Is signs a good movie?

Gar: I said the EXACT same thing.
Also, I'm the dad, I'm taking you to the lake. This is not a democracy.
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 12:17 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003

I heard you can change the spin rate of the disc in the Playstation, would have to try this.
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 12:16 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Minority Report

My PS2 did not like this DVD, started acting funny and not playing correctly voices didn't match up and I was getting audio dropouts etc.. Working ok now in my Apple.
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 12:15 AM EST Saturday, January 11, 2003
Is signs a good movie?

Tony C: I enjoyed it, only thing that gets my goat is you would think someone on a farm has a gun, or at least a bunch of them. A rental, and worth $5 bucks, or $2.50, but my movies late so it's $5 bucks :(
Tony C ( 68.72.141.182 ) at 11:30 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Video card cooked?

Nope. It wasn't the video card. We put a new one in today and it was even worse. So....The Mobo? My friend took it home with him tonight.

My wife is really pissed at me because I'm playing around with running wires and routers and computers and up all night, and I'm sick. When what I should be doing is "getting excited about our vacation".
Hey, I'll get excited when I get on the ship.
You see others have been talking about the excursions and planning what to bring and what to do.
Sorry, I'm planning nothing. I plan every day. This is one week, I just don't want to "think" about.
Thanks for letting me vent.
Tony C ( 68.72.141.182 ) at 11:26 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Is signs a good movie?

T-Man: I just watched to tonight with my wife. I have to say we enjoyed it. Gar is right, it's just a rental, but it was worth the five bucks. Better than anything on TV tonight.
T-Man ( 208.40.136.242 ) at 10:49 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Is signs a good movie?

Bagman Ebert: Just got done watching Signs with the family. And unlike you, I thought it was an entertaining movie. Now I realize you are probably comparing it to your ALL TIME favorite movie, Assault on Precinct 13, which of course is hard to beat. But remember Bagbean, it's JUST A MOVIE. No awards are merited, granted, but your review of:

"Drivel,nonsense,flotsam in the public restroom. Mel mugs and does all his Melisms but this movie sucks."

I suggest is a little harsh. Perhaps you were having a bad day when you saw it. Or perhaps you were having bad memories of when you were probed by aliens that time, but it wasn't that bad. Lighten of Bagboy and remember, not all movies can stack up to Highlander.
Gar ( 66.222.126.57 ) at 8:15 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Trav1

Trav1: My only gripe is I wish they had them in different colors and that the finish on the unit was made out of a rougher material. All in all, the unit like Curtis said does a very good job via the Firewire, for both Data and power. Also, allot of those posts didn't say how long they had the light on for also.
Tony C ( 68.72.124.211 ) at 7:06 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003

Joe: first time for ribtibz? You come down to da sowdside, I'll hook you up good.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:51 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003

Evening all!

I just had an interesting supper, rib tips. I must say I have never had them before. One of my peers bought a bucket and 5 of us killed it. I was on the last halfmile of my 2 mile walk and they called me on the radio. What a way to end a aerobic workout :)

Now I have 5 more hours of boredom :(
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 5:08 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
money

BYork You need to send me an email on where to to send the $$ and how to
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:21 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003

Trav1: I have yet to run out of juice. Keep in mind that the FireWire cable handles both power and data, so it's not like you have a seperate AC brick to lug around with you.
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 2:56 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Trav1

Gar: Cool. Thanks. Granted I believe that I would have it plugged in most of the time anyway, it is nice to know that it will last. I did call apple and it is indeed known that the batteries are not holding up as long as people would like them too. But as with anything, the better you take care of it the longer it will likely last. I have to wonder sometimes reading some of those statements how well the ipod's have been treated.
Gar ( 66.222.127.96 ) at 1:59 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Dynaudio 1.3 SE

Gasgeek: Thanks for the links, keep them coming. The Contour series, looks like a speaker I would love to have again sometime soon. I need to act on that sooner than later on them, otherwise my contact at Dynaudio will be gone soon and I will be SOL.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:34 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Dynaudio 1.3 SE

Gar: Or these Silverline Audio Bolero's. Only $8K

http://www.shows.soundstagelive.com/shows/ces2003/showstop2.shtml

Here's the new Contour additions

http://www.shows.soundstagelive.com/shows/ces2003/dly_jan09.shtml
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:28 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Dynaudio 1.3 SE

Gar: Wouldn't mind those at all. While I'm dreaming. How about a pair of these (down the page a ways)

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/ces2003/thursday/

Silverline Grande La Folia speakers that utilize all Dynaudio drivers. Just $28K. I just got a pair of his SR-17 bookshelfs for my buddy. They were originally $2500 and I got them for him for a grand. Unbelieveable sound for a bookshelf. Pretty similar to the Dynaudio 1.8SE MkII ?(or whatever the designation is)
Gar ( 66.222.127.196 ) at 12:13 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003

They also just came out with these puppies.


http://www.dynaudiona.com/products/contour/spec25/s25.htm
Gar ( 66.222.127.196 ) at 12:11 PM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Dynaudio 1.3 SE

Gasgeek: I think there one of the best speakers I have ever heard. But then again I sold them for 5 years. I still want the new pair of these!

http://www.dynaudiona.com/products/confidence/c2/c2.htm
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:58 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Dynaudio 1.3 SE

Rich F: Everytime I see a reference to your post about bookshelf speakers, I keep thinking, why don't you (meaning me);), mention Dynaudio's. They're pretty expensive, but amazingly revealing and dynamic. Brian is looking at bringing in another speaker line while he's at CES, and I keep pushing for Dynaudio.
Joelc ( 64.229.57.252 ) at 11:09 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003

Good morning gang!!
Gar ( 66.222.127.155 ) at 10:35 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Trav1

I did the good old iPod test yesterday, mine unit lasted 13 hours before it died, not bad considering they state 10. Frankly I think allot of those people that had trouble I bet didn't plug them in long enough for the first couple of charges. I have a 2-3 year service plan on my unit so I am happy and content for now, but hey 13 hours is pretty good. Of course this is with all setting set to normal, it played 160 songs in that time frame.
Gar ( 66.222.127.155 ) at 10:31 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Lexicon Pricing

Rich F: I believe you, I was just going off of what a Tech told me there yesterday. Hell, I wouldn't mind buying a MC-1 and then trading up to the MC-8. Of course this is if I have extra cash flow.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 10:24 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

RickMTB: ...but just right for my Martin Logan ears.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 9:28 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Rich F: Gee, too bad wedidn't do a Group Purchase from Linksys... I too have the Linksys (though I use Road Runner cable modem) and it amazed me how easy it was to set up. So easy even went all the way through with a recommended security password process they suggested via the web site. Probably the most carefree thing attached to my system at home.

re: Dynaudio... a very respected speaker maker. I heard a set in San Jose years ago... very clean sounding (perhaps a little too-so for my Vandersweet-loving ears).
mic ( 68.160.212.94 ) at 8:39 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Tony C: for my linksys I had to program the router, set it to PPPOE and put your ID and password into the router.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 8:35 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Scott "popcorn": I have a Linksys with about 5 computers hooked up to my cable modem. How do I activate the firewall? I didn't do it yet since I am running about 4 different OSs and I thought you had to make sure all had the same connections to do it but it may be a lot simpler than I think. I have Win 98, Win xp, Win Millenium and Win 2000
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 8:32 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
SMR CES coverage

Here is the link to SMRs CES coverage http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/ces2003/ It is the next best thing to being there and has what may be my new speakers - Dynaudio - as a release. I will have to check out that 1.4 system.
AVB ( 64.41.32.75 ) at 8:26 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Tony C: Sorry I didn't get back on last night but it looks like you've been well taken care of by other members.
JJ ( 209.208.201.146 ) at 8:23 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Tony C: I have one of the linksys router/hubs and it works great with my PPPOE DSL. You can also get it to work with just a hub. I have a friend who made it work. Wasn't super difficult either.
The Linksys is great because it also has a firewall builtin. Oh yeah I also have a hub downstairs. So I have the DSL modem connected directly to the Router, then the router to the upstairs PC and the hub downstairs. Hub to another PC and X-Box.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 8:21 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Lexicon Pricing

Here is the url for the SMR groups: http://www.smr-forums.com/sections.html You have to sign in to be part of the group but it is a good forum. Lexicon owners are on forum 3 and there are many other forums for other AV discussions.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 8:16 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Lexicon Pricing

Gar: My source for info is the SMR hometheater pages that are often visited by Lexicon internal people so they usually have good info. Their insiders have been hinting all along that there would be some type of trade in. As an original owner, I can assure you that there are a lot of us who still have the unit and were not ready to take that massive leap up to the MC12 but would be very interested in a $3k leap. The Lexicon Logic 7 is still state of the art and gets consistent reviews so when you add in all the other features of the MC8 at a $3k price point it gets pretty enticing. I know I can't wait to see the unit and today is the day. Plane leaves in 5 hours.
Axis ( 24.94.20.21 ) at 3:15 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
CAT5 and Crusies

Curtis WHADDUP MY MAN?!?!

hope everyone is doing well, and I have a few quick questions:

1: is Duane still around and able to calibrate a toshiba RPTV?
2: Tony C - Networking - From you cable modem to a ROUTER (Linksys Befsr41) you use a straight cable Pins 123 and 6 - same on the other end - match them both up or make them the same on both ends...colors anyway. then straight cables out of the Linksys router to the computers - MAKE SURE that you do NOT connect a computer cable to the uplink port...this is reserverd for connecting to a swith or hub...PC's connect into jacks 123 or 4
3: Cruise on sunday Tony...is this departing from Long Beach and heading to the Mexican Riv? my parents are goin on that cruise TOO!

Curtis - Long time no hear....hope things are well with you all, and that the kids are great.

everyone else hope you all are doin ok too!

Scotty
Gar ( 66.222.126.94 ) at 3:11 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Lexicon Pricing

Rich F: I was told they weren't going to take trade ins on anything anymore, I could be wrong. Most of the MC-1 where traded up or sold used etc.. etc.. Hell you could get one on Audiogon for 2K and then trade it in and get 3 k, that's if the first person is the orginal owner. My friend bought a MC-1 off a guy and then traded it at a dealer and got 4k for it for a new MC-12. If they do this one could buy and used one and get top dollar trade in. Still allot of money for a pre/pro.
Gar ( 66.222.126.94 ) at 3:04 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Signs

Tony, like I said before it's a rental :) I watched it tonight, and I thought it was a good rental, but not worth buying.
Gar ( 66.222.126.94 ) at 3:03 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
Dynaudio 1.3 SE

Rich F: Always been a fan Dynaudio, I am using LR 120 x 5 for my Home Theater. I would like floorstander somewhere down the road and I should use my last connection at Dynaudio before he leaves and goes somewhere else. Also take a listen to Joseph Audio.
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.33.80 ) at 1:35 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Tony C: Actually, I'm looking at a jack now, and you do have the "B" layout. So you should use the "B" layout on the jack as well. However, I am also noticing that on the Leviton jack, the white/color and color are sometimes reversed. If you're using Leviton jacks, or jacks that are similar, you need to start on the "B" orange side, and wire it (starting closest to the wall plate) in the same order that you listed previously. on the Leviton jack, the order is: o, w-o, w-gr, w-bl, bl, gr, br, w-br. All you need to do is make sure that if you plug the plug end of the cable into the jack end, each wire makes its own loop, and there are no crossed wires.
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.33.80 ) at 1:23 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Tony C: Ok, first off, the Linksys Router is what you need for the network to work with the modem. Your cable wires are correct, if they are that way on both ends, and the wire end of the plug towards you. I am not familiar with VPN access, but I have a friend who is, so if you have trouble with that, just e-mail me and I'll get you hooked up.

As for the wall jack, both ends of the jack should be hooked up as "A" connections. I use Leviton jacks, not sure which ones you have, but really it doesn't make a difference as long as both ends of the cable in the wall are hooked up to each jack the same way (both "A"'s or both "B"'s, though "A" is the standard practice). With your situation of running a plug to a jack in the wall, the way your wires are is an "A" (at least from Leviton's information), so you should use an "A" connection on the jack as well. If you can tell me what type of jack you're using, I can verify what connection you need. :)
Tony C ( 68.72.139.226 ) at 12:27 AM EST Friday, January 10, 2003
DSL

Scott "popcorn": What I tried to use was a HUB. It worked fine in the office where we have T1 lines or some other type of network. But did not work with the modem. OK, I understand that.

When I made the cable runs, I did exactly what you said to do so that the cables matched. The wires go left to right with the clip down like this:
w-o, o, w-gr, bl, w-bl, gr, w-br, br.

I bought, but have not hooked up yet, a Linksys Wireless Access Point Router. This is what you believe will work for me, correct?

The only concern I have is that the Linksys may interfear with getting into my work VPN and email. It asks that I change some settings that I know are set to work with the BMG network. I'll have to ask my ISP guy about that.

OK, here's another question.
I want to use a wall jack. So I have one end of the wire run with a male clip on it with the wires configured like I mentioned above. The other end is going to a CAT5 wall jack.
If the wire sequence I have above is "B", do I install the wires on the jack as "B", the way the jack has it layed out? Because I did that, hooked one end directly to the modem and the other to the wall jack. Then a cable from the jack to the computer, and it didn't work.
Scott "popcorn" ( 66.137.71.67 ) at 11:51 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
DSL

Tony C: Ok, I think I can help out here... from the DSL modem, if the modem uses PPPOE to communicate with the computer, you either have to have it directly connected to the computer, OR you have to have a router. You mentioned a Netgear hub... is it an actual hub or a router? Because a hub won't work in this case. As for the modem cable connection, I believe it is a null (reverse), but I could be wrong. look at each end of the cable that came with the modem... Place them next to each other, side-by-side, with the clip facing down. Look at the wire colors on each conductor. A straight-through cable will have the wires lined up the same on each plug. A Null (reverse) cable will have some pairs "out of place". Then check each end of your cable you made.

Let me know what's going on from this point. If you plan to use a router (or network through a hub), the basement wire needs to be a straight-through. You mentioned that if you use a coupler or a hub, it doesn't work... What I'm thinking at this point is that the cable from the modem is a null (reverse) and the basement cable is wired as a null also. Coupling these two together will result in a straight-through cable.

I said that a hub won't work with a modem... theroetically, it will, but only one computer can be "online" at a time. A router is needed to convert the signal to standard ethernet (and provide firewall protection, etc.), and then the output of the router can be any number of hubs (use a null cable, or a straight-through cable into a null port) or computers (use a straight-through cable).
Tony C ( 68.72.119.55 ) at 11:14 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
DSL

Curtis: Not as smooth as I'd like.

Anyone know anything about wiring CAT5?

I made the long cable going from the modem to the basement. It seems tha with either computer, if I use the HUB or just a coupler, it doesn't work.

Do the wires have to be reversed? I see a diagram on the cable package for an A or a B installation. I made the connector look just like the ones that came with the modem, but nothings working. Unless I go straight from the modem.

I took a tylenol PM and I have to get some sleep. See you tomorrow.
Curtis ( 12.234.117.140 ) at 10:53 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
DSL

Tony C:Way to go Antnee! Your install went far smoother than each I have been involved in to date. Looks like SBC has gotten their act together.

Networking the DSL modem can take a little debugging but you'll get where you want to be soon. SBC is giving everyone non-static IP's so set each computer to automatic IP setting recoginition.

Get well before you vacation - dummy! ;-)
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 10:44 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Dynaudio 1.3 SE

Listened to these speakers today and must say that I really liked them. Excellant tonal quality. I need to go back an dlisten with some of my favorite reference pieces to judge sound stage and imaging. They are the perfect size for the shelves but they sound like full size speakers.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 10:42 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon Pricing

Unofficial word is that the MC1 will be worth about $3k and the MC8 lists for $5995 and the Balanced version is at $6995. Not sure about the DC1 or DC2 and pretraded units are not eligible. I may have to look at it.
Tony C ( 68.72.142.209 ) at 10:23 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
DSL

I have a very bad soar throught and probably a fever. So, I didn't want to stress out too much, especially since I'm leaving on a cruise Sunday.

Therefore, I ran CAT5 cable but only connected the modem to a Netgear hub.
I got an error message that the line was busy (PPPOE).

This computer works fine from up here without the hub. I'll try the downstairs one to see if the cables work.

AVB: Any ideas?
AVB ( 64.41.32.151 ) at 10:07 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Cigars

Gar: OK, thanks. I thought they were sent and just never showed up.
Gar ( 66.222.126.139 ) at 9:53 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Wild Bill

My basis was what I heard from friends who have similar movie tastes and who saw it in the Theater. And looking at Tonys Bio, renting it would always be a good option, most people buy movies that they have already seen, at least I do. There are of course times when you take that chance, which I have :( I am going to watch it tonight of course rented it yesterday haven't had a chance to pop it in yet.
Gar ( 66.222.126.139 ) at 9:44 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Joelc: Believe me, if I had the extra cash, I would be all over a TAG or a
Lexicon or a Meridian 800 series Pre/Pro. Someday.. :)
Gar ( 66.222.126.139 ) at 9:43 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003

AVB: Also there is a little extra something in there for them being late :)
Gar ( 66.222.126.139 ) at 9:42 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Cigars

AVB: Didn't miss anything before Christmas I couldn't find them, I finally found them a few days ago, and sent them out via USPS. Sorry for the delay, wife hid them somewhere in house because she doesn't want me smoking them. Ironic since she is the one that bought them for me ;)
Gar ( 66.222.126.139 ) at 9:40 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Wild Bill: Ah, I finally rented it, and was told by a good friend not to buy it but to rent it. Looking at Tonys bio, we have very similar movie and music tastes, so I said Rent it.
JohnO ( 68.100.181.99 ) at 8:21 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

BAGMAN: Yes, even as a thinking movie it is flawed, but if you are expecting an action flick you are REALLY in the wrong theater :)
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:21 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Writing Paper

So I am a little stuck on a paper. The advantages and disadvantages of working while attending college.

Thoughts, comments a few paragraphs perhaps......anyone
Tony C ( 68.23.99.115 ) at 8:20 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

If they have an upgrade program I'm interested. If not, forget it. There are too many good processors for $3K.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:19 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

BAGMAN: So it's a 4 blue movie. Is that like "Yea she's at least 4 beers"
Tony C ( 68.23.99.115 ) at 8:19 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
DSL

Yes, gentlemen, I have entered the modern age. Coming at you from my lap top via DSL.
Had a little problem this morning trying to get to my work email, but all is well now and all is fast.

I also had a hard time figuring out how to get all the phones back to normal. Filters and two separate lines. But I think that's worked out now too.

OK, now it's time to set up the wireless router and run a cable to the basement for the family computer. Wish me luck.
Tony C ( 68.23.99.115 ) at 8:16 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

BAGMAN: I bought it cheap, but didn't open it yet. Maybe I'll rent it first.
BAGMAN ( 198.70.219.55 ) at 7:36 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

JohnO:I must respect your opinion but this movie is not a deep thinker either.
JohnO ( 68.100.181.99 ) at 7:20 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Signs: While not a perfect movie by any means, it is considerably better than the normal explosion filled nonsense that passes for films these days :)

It was widely misrepresented in the ad campaigns to be something it was not, if you liked Unbreakable you will probably enjoy this. It is NOT a non stop Independence Day style shootem-up.
Joelc ( 64.229.54.37 ) at 6:58 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Trav1: No, I never sent my unit in to be updraded -- at least not yet. My thinking, like yours, is price related meaning that I will get all the upgrades that I want at once rather than "piece meal" as the shipping costs can kill you.

Based on my conversation with TMA todau I am guessing that I will upgrade in six to nine months time as two of the features that I need/want are not yet shipping; namely the video sacler and the DVI connector.
BAGMAN ( 198.70.219.55 ) at 6:55 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Joe: Same price,same store,....BAD. It starts out with a great creepy factor then it becomes, "like you got to be shitting me". Drink at least four Blue's before watching.
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 6:46 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003

Doh!
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 6:46 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Joelc: Speaking of TMA. Did you ever send your unit in for the 5.1 bypass and the 192 dacs? I'm tempted to get the dacs, but at a $300+ price tag just for the shipping, I do not feel it is that effective for one to do so.
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 6:42 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Joelc: Speaking of TMA. Did you ever send your unit in for the 5.1 bypass and the 192 dacs? I'm tempted to get the dacs, but at a $300+ price tag just for the shipping, I do not feel it is that effective for one to do so.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:41 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Wild Bill: Well I bought it. Target had it for $15.99 at that price it seemed like a good buy.
Wild Bill ( 12.92.109.151 ) at 6:15 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Gar: Now I'm confused. Tony C asked about Signs, you said it was a rental and then you made a post asking Bagman's opinion. The post made it look like you haven't seen it in which case I'm curious how you could call a movie that you haven't seen a rental. Can you tell my head is spinning? :-)

BTW, JohnO (who is truly a movie buff) liked the film.
BAGMAN ( 198.70.219.55 ) at 5:58 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Gar:T-Bone often gets me confused with Dalton. Having said that, I often get him mixed up with Ben Gazaras' character.
AVB ( 64.41.32.151 ) at 5:56 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Cigars

Gar: Maybe I missed something but those cigars never showed up here. Just thought I'd let you know.
Joelc ( 64.229.54.37 ) at 5:23 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Gar: Have no fear -- a Lexicon pre/pro is not in my future. The only pre/pro ugrade in my future, and even that is a big maybe, is the TAG McLaren AV192R. The questions is respect to the Lexison were asked merely out of curiosity, nothing more!

The user manual, specs, features and cost is all posted on their website. The price tag is huge so the likelihood is small as they have given owners of the AV32R the option of upgrading to most (i.e. not all) of the AV192R features for a reasonanle price. Only time will tell.

Also, I spoke to TMA just 10 minutes ago. There are only 3 192Rs in North AMerica, and all three are at CES. It will be while before enough is known for me to make the decision. For now I will stick (and happily so) with my TMA trifecta -- amp, dvd and pre/pro.
Gar ( 216.165.162.150 ) at 5:08 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003

Lets say he was pleasantly surprised on how good the processor was in the HK unit, and so was I.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 5:07 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Tivo unveils HD DVR

Kieran: I'm guessing that it will have its own internal ATSC tuner - not an expensive thing to include. My suggestion is for them to include dual sat AND dual ATSC tuners - record 4 things at once while watching a 5th thing you already recorded.

Tivo also announced new networking capabilities to include HD DVR, access to photo, video & music files stored on networked computers, played back on whatever AV system/s your Tivo is connected to.
Gar ( 216.165.162.150 ) at 5:05 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Joelc: not sure if I want to pay $6000 for that processor when you can find the MC-12 for 6k. The MC-8 would be a good deal if it was around 3k or 4k, my reciever does about 90% of what the MC-12 does. I had a chance to A/B them at my friends house who has a MC-12 and compared it with my new HK-525 with his Proceed Amp.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 5:04 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Virus Alert

If any of you recieve from me Reallyjoe@aol.com delete it. It says it has an .exp file attached.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:50 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Tivo unveils HD DVR

Curtis: I wonder how they get the signal to the Tivo... does it have it's own ATSC tuner built in, or do you feed it an HD-component signal, or a DVI signal, or what?
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:43 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
& the HD/DirecTV announcement

http://www.tivo.com/5.3.1.1.asp?article=166

This gives a bit more info; Component video and DVI with HDCP, terrestrial ATSC reception/recording (something my DirecTivo can't do), and a claim that recording capicity will be longer than current stuff.

Would one of you guys at the show check it out at CES please? At the D booth & probably at Tivo's too. TIA.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:29 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Tivo unveils HD DVR

It's about f&*#ing time! I may be a beta tester for one or more designs .. CES press release here http://www.tivo.com/5.3.1.1.asp?article=164
Gar ( 66.222.127.172 ) at 4:14 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003

Hey T-Man, Triple XXX wasn't that bad. :)
Gar ( 66.222.127.172 ) at 4:13 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

T-Man:HAHAHA Roadhouse! :) Bagman, I liked Dusk till Dawn, but the only reason is they had Salma Hayek in it. Someone told me to watch the DVD extras and the so called ending makes more sense, but I haven't seen it yet.
BAGMAN ( 198.70.219.55 ) at 3:57 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

T-Man: Wrong T-Breath, Dusk Till Dawn. Please get your facts right.
T-Man ( 208.40.137.36 ) at 3:30 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

BAGMAN: Bagman Ebert....I haven't seen it. My two sons really liked it however (of course they also liked Triple X). They saw it at the theater. I'll pick up the DVD and check it out. Considering your favorite movie is Roadhouse, I will reserve judgement and not be influenced by your critical review.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 2:44 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Gar: It starts out really good, but IMO the ending/resolution was really lame.
Gar ( 66.222.126.149 ) at 2:26 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

BAGMAN: Can you elaborate more on this :) I have been hearing mixed reviews from friends. I will rent it, but that is about it.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 2:03 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

BAGMAN: I thought "Signs" was unremarkable as well. However, it is worthy of the Best Picture Oscar in comparison with the worthless piece of worm dung of a movie I watched but didn't finish, last night.

ALL: Whatever you do in life... avoid at all costs, viewing the Sly Stallone movie out in video stores now, called "Eye See You". Good GOD this movie is awful. I could not bring myself to finish watching it, and I was about 20 minutes from the end. The thing is, it has a *decent* (not wonderful) cast. The story is SO bad though, you wonder how it ever got made, and how a cast this good ever agreed to do it. Again, not that the cast is THAT great, but with a movie this bad, you'd expect it to be full of nobody actors. It was so bad, I was checking my watch... AT HOME, with no where to go and nothing to do after the movie.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:04 PM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
CSB HD schedule

Kieran: Okay you can customize www.titantv.com to go out 2 weeks. I think you're SOL on finding a resource for what has already aired.
Gar ( 66.222.126.67 ) at 10:27 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Joelc

Good questions, but the guy didn't say anything about trade ins. Ironically the only 2 things he said that was different from MC-12 verses the MC-8 was the MC-12 was bigger(no shit) and that the MC-12 had more internal processors,
which could mean anything.
Joelc ( 64.229.54.37 ) at 9:48 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Gar: Two follow ups:

1. Any trade-in allowance for current MC-1/DC-2 owners?

2. Can you be more specific on the "less internal processors" comment?
Gar ( 66.222.126.83 ) at 9:39 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

AVB: They have a optional Rack Mounting kit :)
Gar ( 66.222.126.83 ) at 9:36 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Joelc/AVB

Straight from the Techs at Lexicon. Price will be on par with the MC-1 about $6000 for the unbalanced version and $7000 for the balanced version. One Less Zone than the MC-12 and Less internal Processors. Still a tad too expensive, hopefully they will have some dealer discounting. Here is the link to the info:

http://www.lexicon.com/MC8/
Joelc ( 64.229.54.37 ) at 9:16 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
MC-8

AVB: I have since been to their website and was not able to find any pricing on either it or the RT-10 DVD/SACD player.

Also, do you or anyone else, have a comparison between the MC-8 and MC-12? In other words, what is not included in the MC-8?
AVB ( 64.41.33.171 ) at 9:02 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
MC-8

The Lexicon MC-8 was released on Tuesday afternoon, anyone know what the list price is?
AVB ( 64.41.33.171 ) at 9:01 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
LLC vs Sole Proprietorship

Luis Carranza: You are legally liable for more things as a sole proprietorship. There are also tax considerations. It is best to talk to an attorney to see which is best for your circumstance. JMHO
Luis Carranza ( 67.24.192.200 ) at 8:47 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
LLC vs Sole Proprietorship

what are the advantages of an LLC versus the sole proprietorship in terms of stting up a new bsiness in the construction industry, and if applicable, what other options are available?
BAGMAN ( 198.70.219.55 ) at 8:05 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
SIGNS (and I like Mel as an actor)

Tony C: Drivel,nonsense,flotsam in the public restroom. Mel mugs and does all his Melisms but this movie sucks.
Joelc ( 64.229.54.37 ) at 8:03 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003

Good morning gang..
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 1:56 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Forum problem

Scott "popcorn": I'm using IE 6.0 that comes w/ WinXP, and IE 5.x that I have at work w/ Win2k. Both behave the same. The "show thread" button works just like the reply button. In fact, I clicked on "show thread" to compose this reply! It is very repeatable... happens any old time I click on "show thread". I don't recall that button ever working correctly.
cai ( 209.170.209.50 ) at 1:52 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Greetings From CES

I am internet capable thanks to Hampton Inns; that is as long as no one else is at the business center on a dial-up. No complaints though.
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.32.233 ) at 12:37 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Forum problem

Kieran: Hmmm... Nothing has been changed, and it works fine here. What browser are you using? Is the problem repeatable in your browser?

As an aside, I'd like to see DiscoveryHD come to DirecTV...
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:02 AM EST Thursday, January 9, 2003
Lexicon

Rich F: Now THAT is something I'm going to have to check out.

JT, we may have to have a conversation with your friend about this........

I'll check it out tomorrow, their booth is next to some friends of mine.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 11:47 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Lexicon

Lexicon released the "baby MC12" known as the MC8. Don't know the price yet but will see in CES. Also announced a DVD transport that plays DVD-A and SACD with 6 channel analog outputs which can be connected to the MC8. Wish they had also announced a digital connection between the pieces.
Gar ( 66.222.49.43 ) at 9:27 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Bored at work

Joe: 54 today, set a record in the last 119 years. But it will be 16 and windy the next couple of days.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:43 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
3800 engine

Did you all see the 320hp 3800 V-6 in the Monte Carlos SS?
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 8:42 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Bored at work

Hey Gar and Tony hows the weather over there? It's warm ovr here. I just took a 2 mile walk around the plant. It must still be in the 40's outside.
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 7:05 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Robert

Joe: I'll see what's up for the future.
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 7:05 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
NHT at the Fosgate booth

It looks like NHT products will be at the Fosgate booth this CES. I didn't see the gear, but the banners were up.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:46 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Robert

Robert: One that will have a Digital cannection I can use with a Anthem AVM-20
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 6:34 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
9r's fan

nice backdoor win.
I keep my mouth shut on the 24 pt comeback, that WAS awesome, but the Giants had a mental lapse and should have won if the ref didn't blow it.

Scoreboard is scoreboard though.
Gar ( 66.222.127.10 ) at 6:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Trav1

After reading over that webpage it seems like it could be a recharging problem, similar to the one we had with our phone. People get a unit like the iPod and are excited to use it and they don't charge it long enough the first couple of times and then the battery is screwed. Also it could be a few things, I am testing my unit out right now. Thanks for that webpage!!!
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 5:58 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

Joe: LMAO!! Dirt, Breeze and Smoke. Too funny!
Gar ( 66.222.127.10 ) at 5:52 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Ipod

Trav1:I bought my iPod through CompUSA and Have a 2 year replacement plan. I will do a test on this puppy and if it doesn't pass you know where it's going. I used my Friends iPod going out to Montana and it lasted about 15 hours before it died and then I just recharged it. Not Sure, but I usually have it plugged in when I am on the road, I will have to test it with out the Power chord in my Car and see how long it lasts.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 5:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
CSB HD schedule

Curtis: Yeah, but it only shows the current week... :-P It'd be nice to see future programming out a few/couple weeks, and even past programming.
Robert ( 208.47.143.249 ) at 5:28 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Robert

Joe: Define further what you are looking for. Denon and Pioneer already have proprietary links. are you looking for a more general application whereby you can get a whatever DVD player and different brand processor?
Robert ( 208.47.143.249 ) at 5:26 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Welcome from CES

cai: yep that # is still good. I'm at the Alladin myself. We may have to meet at the AVS event
Wild Bill ( 12.91.118.248 ) at 5:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

cai: Monster is Monster Cable. Every year at CEDIA they sponsor a concert. Two years ago it was Bonnie Raitt. I forget who it was last year. Apparently they do the same thing at CES. It is not a free event at CEDIA.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 4:53 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Robert

Any news on a Digital connection for DVD-A & SACD?
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 4:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Off Topic

I have a friend here who is writing a paper on how to motivate supervisors without a pay increase. I found this funny, being a supervisor myself. So I thought I would ask the more mature and wiser group here. I now some of you hve been in postions having supervisors work for you in the past.

I also now some of you have had to write papers for your Masters. So any thoughts on the subject or loactions to search would be great.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:41 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
CSB HD schedule

Kieran: Bookmark this; http://www.cbs.com/info/hdtv/
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:34 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Survivor

Curtis: Too bad. Still though... the SD programs on CBS-HD are amazingly better than the same show on the local CBS feed I get.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 4:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Survivor

Kieran: No it wasn't shot in HD.
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 4:28 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Ipod

Gar: Just a follow up here. I guess apple will not replace the battery. I guess they will take $50 off the price of the 5gb model if you have to purchase a new one. Read more at http://www.ipodhacks.com/article.php?sid=158&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Survivor

This is/was a CBS show, but this season is over. WAS it in HD last season? WILL it be next season? I'm not a fan, but a couple people/friends have asked me, since I mentioned I have CBS in HD now.
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 4:15 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Ipod

Gar: I've read a couple negative reviews on the ipod regarding the lack of a replaceable battery. I guess they are having a number of them fail after about a year. This requires a return trip to apple, and I have yet to see someone mention a price for this. Have you heard about this?
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 4:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Byork

Check went out today
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 4:11 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

Rich F: Earth Wind and Fire...by now that should be Dirt, Breeze, and Smoke :)
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 4:04 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Interesting HDTV thread

This thread over on AVS forum, is about HDNet, and Mark Cuban himself has posted to it.

Personally, I agree with the statement that HDNet is nothing more than a novelty *right now* but admit that it has lots of potential. However, I'd much rather have CBS and/or Discovery on Dish Network than HDNet, if I had to choose. I'd LOVE to see HDNet on Dish Network though, if it meant that Dish would do away with some of the LAME SD channels that they have (like home shopping channels, etc.) in order to make more bandwidth room.
AVB ( 64.41.32.144 ) at 2:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Pretty good amp deal

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?ampsmult&1047087351
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 2:28 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Congrats JJ

Sorry for the lateness. Congrats and enjoy. They grow up way too fast.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 2:21 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Welcome from CES

Robert: I still have your cell telephone number, it starts with 612-387 if that is still good, I will give you a call when I arrive today. I am staying at the Hampton Inn by Tropicana 702-948-8100. Leave me a message at the desk since I will be internet-less while in Vegas.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 1:50 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

cai: As Robert said it is a Monster cable sponsored concert and this years event has Earth, Wind and Fire.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 1:47 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
It's Time

JJ: Some how I missed it, but Robert's post brought it to my attention. Anyway, congrats, Max is a great looking kid. His bro is pretty swell, too! :) Best wishes.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 1:42 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Forum problem

Popcorn or BYork: When I click the "show thread" button, all it does is behave like the "reply" button. Isn't it supposed to show all the posts with a certain subject? If so, it doesn't do that.
Joelc ( 64.229.57.4 ) at 1:18 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

Robert: Thanks...
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
JT

I'll bet your glad to get that monkey off your back.

My wife went out looking at houses this last week with her mom, could be painful (Longacres in Chan and some in Edina).
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:32 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
'Max''Max'Max'

JJ: Congratulations JJ on your new baby, good looking kid. Enjoy!
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Circuit Shitty story

Kieran: Classic!
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:21 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

cai: Monster Cable always throws a party/concert at CES. I'm not sure where and who, but it's usually fun. Tickets are easy to get providing you are a Monster dealer or know a Monster Rep.
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:19 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
WildBill

and other Buckeye fans,,,

What a game !! Top it off OSU is returning a TON of starters next year. I imagine they will stay at the top of the polls.
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:18 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Football In HD

I am SOOOOO glad that the Raiders are playing on Sunday, I'm in the air on Saturday and will miss the Saturday game.
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:15 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Welcome from CES

I can't believe another year has zoomed by. At least I'm at a hotel with a hi speed internet connection.

If anybody here is going let me know, I'd like to have a drink with you if time/schedules permit. I have a meeting on Thursday, but after that it's roaming the halls until I leave on Saturday.
Robert ( 63.165.31.5 ) at 12:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

JoelC:hope you recover from your,,,aaahummm,,surgery soon. I just can't help but relive a memory from college regarding the "sac". Thanks for taking me down memory lane,,,,,,,,,

Regarding second zone applications, try this Russound product,
http://www.russound.com/abus_overview.htm
it's a audio application, but I ran a viceo cable as well to the "zones". It's pretty simplistic, but if you have a main unit that can handle a second zone, this would work great. You need efficient speakers since it's only a 7 watt output and it's a relativly inexpensive system as well.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 11:45 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Speaking of HD NFL

Curtis: No... I don't get Fox 480p widescreen via Dish... only CBS-HD. To get the Fox-EDTV stuff, I'll need an antenna which I don't have... YET.
Tony C ( 67.248.113.96 ) at 9:01 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

Joelc: Hey buzz boy...
You know if all you want to do is run music to another room, you can always use the 2nd Room/Zone on your Tag. Get a cheap mini system for the office with an Aux input and your good to go.

I saw an excellent mini system that was cheap. It was made by RIO and it played MP3 discs and each speaker had a built in amp for bass. It sounded really great for around $200US.

For the first level of my home, I have the HT system in the family room, a set of speakers running off of that receiver's B Speakers in the living room (frontroom if your from Chicago's south side) and I use the 2nd Room/zone for my office. I ran cables into an AUX on a receiver in the office and then ran a second set of speakers to the porch. The whole first floor including the porch could get the same source if I wanted it to.
Joelc ( 64.229.52.105 ) at 8:20 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

Oops... typo in the e-mail address... too many drugs on board. Let's try again....

joelc@dion-durrell.com
Joelc ( 64.229.52.105 ) at 8:19 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

AVB and Tony C.: Thanks for your input/thoughts - both are valid. I really do miss not having music in certain parts of the house (like my office) which I spend a great deal of time in. The two things that I am consiering are:

1. The actual labour cost of the installation because I would otherwise rip out the gear and take it with me provided the installation cost is not huge.

2. Robert's setup. Robert, can you or Tony send me additional info. E-mail is joelc@dio-durrell.com

On a separate note I have a new name for the three Crestron programmers who came here yesterday and managed to completely scre up my system -- the three stooges. Anyone want to make a bet as to what happens today when they return?
Joelc ( 64.229.52.105 ) at 8:13 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

Good morning gang... still buzzing along on the drugs!
AVB ( 64.41.33.180 ) at 5:49 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Video Card

Tony C: Glad you found out it was the card. I'm an ATI man myself but there are others that do a respectable job.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 2:26 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Speaking of HD NFL

Kieran: Well at least you'll get 480p widescreen of the 9ers for the next 2 weeks. If that happens (BIG if) you'll get to see 'em in HD on ABC.
Kieran ( 209.148.113.212 ) at 2:15 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Speaking of HD NFL

I am so bummed that Fox got the Niners playoff game and not CBS! At least we can watch the Raiders in 1080i, but I'm more interested in how the Niners do.
Kieran ( 209.148.114.79 ) at 12:46 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
rooftop antenna plan...

Scott "popcorn", Curtis: I'm planning on putting up an 80" yaggi on a tripod to see if I can even pull in Sutro signals or not. If I can, I'll use it as a temporary thing, that I can take down and put up at a moment's notice... for example, I would put it up just for the day to watch the s'bowl, then take it down after.
Scott "popcorn" ( 64.218.218.46 ) at 12:37 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
rooftop antenna plan...

Curtis: I wonder if the association would bellyache (considering this is only temporary anyway), if he just set up a mobile antenna truck to pull in the locals. :)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:24 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

LOL!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:24 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003

... er I eman Sutro
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 12:12 AM EST Wednesday, January 8, 2003
rooftop antenna plan...

Kieran: Just go ahead and put up the tallest thing you can find on a temporary basis. The ass'n is going to moan about it anyway and you don't even know if you'll be able to pull in the Surto tower OTA's until you try.

If it works, invite all the neighbors over for HD NFL football the next 3 weekends!
Scott "popcorn" ( 64.218.218.46 ) at 11:42 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
VIDEO CARD

Tony C: Heat killed the video card. or is that video killed the radio star? :P
Scott "popcorn" ( 64.218.218.46 ) at 11:41 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Popcorn I am drooling...... Over this computer!

Kieran: Just in case you're missing exactly what we're drooling over... it's the new 17" widescreen and the backlit keyboard :) I've seen the 17" iMac, and I have to tell you, that is going to be a LOT of screen real estate for a laptop.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 11:23 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

Rich F: What is this Monster concert? Is Monster a group or is it a big concert that is being staged somewhere in Vegas? If so where and is it free?

Thank you.

Tony C ( 64.12.96.166 ) at 11:22 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
VIDEO CARD

OK, last time I writ about this. It may not come out right because I'm typing through the pink haze and lines. Yes, the cer is doing it now so it must be the video card.
New one on the way.
bye.
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 11:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Samsung Monitor

AVB: Hey, thanks for taking the time for the advice.
Here's what's happening, tell me what you think.

I replaced the Samsung LCD with an old Compaq crt. After at least a half hour no problems with the crt.
I put the LCD on my laptop and over the same amount of time, no problems there either.

Could it be that the video card can't handle the LCD and overheats? OR could the fan, now running, have made the difference?
The LCD was running fine without the fan since Thanksgiving.
Your opinion is most valuable.
thanks.
AVB ( 64.41.33.180 ) at 11:01 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Samsung Monitor

Tony C: I would bet more on the card then I would the monitor. If you have a spare I'd test to make sure.
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 10:29 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Samsung Monitor

AVB: I put the fan back on (and remembered how loud it was) and the monitor went bad within 5 minutes. I wonder if the video card is fried.

Is it more likely that than the monitor going bad?
I'm on it now. If it happens again, I'm going to put the old monitor back in to see if it happens on it. If it does, I guess it must be the video card.
Gar ( 66.222.49.93 ) at 10:10 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
SIGNS

Tony C: A Rental.
Tony C ( 152.163.188.3 ) at 9:57 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Samsung Monitor

AVB: You know what? I turned the fan off because it was too loud.

I know, I know, You don't have to rub it in. Ok, I'll turn it back on and see how it goes.
Tony C ( 152.163.188.3 ) at 9:51 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
SIGNS

I've been gabbing like an old lady on here tonight.

Anyone see Signs? Is it worth buying?
Tony C ( 152.163.188.3 ) at 9:32 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Monitor

There is happened again. Right when I was typing. I'll leave it one for a while and if it happens again, it's going back. I tightened up the connector in the back of the computer.

I was about to say that I bought a Wireless access point router. The Toshiba has a built in Wireless card.
AVB ( 64.41.33.180 ) at 9:30 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Samsung Monitor

Tony C: Sounds like a heat problem with your video card.

Joelc: This is too much trouble for someplace that you will be moving out of in a year. Just turn up the main system if you want to hear it in other rooms :)
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 9:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

cai: Thanks for the lead on The Show. I am going to the Monster concert on Frideay but will see what time it is and stop by AVS if possible. I will definitely check out JA.
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 9:24 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Gar,

We have 2 out with heart problems, 1 out for a head on crash and 1 for reasons I cannot post. But it's ok because the rest of us are healthy and only slightly off bubble :)
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 9:22 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

OK I see how you guys are, no post for hours, then I get busy and then everyone starts posting :)
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 9:22 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
DSL

I was supposed to get my DSL modem by January 2nd. That's when they switched it on. But SBC or UPS lost the modem. They had to ship out another one and it should arrive here tomorrow.

THEN...I'll be asking you guys all kinds of questions. I even bought a Ly
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 9:17 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
laptops

speaking of laptops, I finally got my sexy Toshiba back and working.
I won't be traveling for work till Feb.

and speaking of work...layoffs today. One very close friend was let go because of the merger between J Records and RCA.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 9:14 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
rooftop antenna plan...

Wild Bill: Hmmm... I've read and re-read the FCC rule, but I guess it never occured to me that their words about "boundaries" of the exclusive use area (e.g. my patio) included a vertical boundary at the eaves. I just went back to the FCC OTARD FAQ, and with that in mind, I can see where they could say that. It's vague though as they repeat several times that the vertical limit is 12 feet above the roofline. They don't clarify that "boundaries" of balconies and patios include a vertical boundary other than this 12 foot over the roof limit. They *DO* however, specifically mention "hanging over" a railing or patio wall. Here's the text from the FAQ (granted it's just a FAQ, not the actual rule)
Q: Does the rule apply to condominiums or apartment buildings if the antenna is installed so that it hangs over or protrudes beyond the balcony railing or patio wall?

A: No. The rule does not prohibit restrictions on antennas installed beyond the balcony or patio of a condominium or apartment unit if such installation is in, on, or over a common area. An antenna that extends out beyond the balcony or patio is usually considered to be in a common area that is not within the scope of the rule. Therefore, the rule does not apply to a condominium or rental apartment unit unless the antenna is installed wholly within the exclusive use area, such as the balcony or patio.


I'll have to dig up the actual FCC rule and read the fine print. Again, I'm not serious about doing this... more trouble than it's worth since I won't be here that long, but I am interested in it.
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 9:10 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Samsung Monitor

I was on my computer for about 10 minutes when the monitor started to go pink and get distictive verticle lines. The curser became a little box.
I was able to shut down the computer and restart. So far, it's been about 30 minutes without a problem.
Any ideas what may have caused this?
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 9:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Joelc: Let me just play devils advocate, my friend.
There is only you in the house, correct? And why do YOU need to listen to something different from what is being played in the main system?
I'm just not understanding that.
What you may want to do is run extra speakers with volume controls and an infra-red control system.
Robert has a cool system that runs audio on CAT5 and video on coax. Neat touch pads and everything. Ask him about it. I'm sure it would be a lot cheaper and a lot easier to install.
Gar ( 66.222.49.93 ) at 9:02 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Curtis: Less than my Monitor? Ah, nope not at the Gar Price plus they had a $500 rebate on it thank God
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 9:00 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

No Way, not giving this puppy up!! Too frickin fun and cool, this Apple is staying put. Although a Laptop would be nice, I have a Dell for work, that that thing is nowhere near as fun as this puppy!
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 8:59 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
rooftop antenna plan...

Kieran: Even if you have a vertical limit, I'm sure your association as well as your neighbors wouldn't want to look at an ugly antenna. So make the threat. And if they don't budge, install it. Who knows, you just might get some decent recepetion.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:45 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Gar: Nowhere near my kind of deal, but we did snag an employee discount. Even at list it's less than your monitor - sell it! ;-)
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 8:43 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Curtis

Wizbang fast!! The new web browser by Apple is the fastest browser I have ever seen! I just downloaded it a few minutes ago and it is lightning fast. "Safari" is the name of it.
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 8:35 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Popcorn I am drooling...... Over this computer!

Curtis: I hope your son is getting Curtis prices, those things aren't cheap. I want one also, but it will have to wait, need to replace windows in house first and then maybe :) I think it is one of the best laptops I have played with, after I saw there Ad, I had to stop in at CompUSA and they had one in. Very Cool.
Scott "popcorn" ( 209.184.9.62 ) at 8:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Popcorn I am drooling...... Over this computer!

Gar: Yeah, my friend bouncey sent me an e-mail about it earlier today... total droolness. Wish I had $3299 to blow :)
Scott "popcorn" ( 209.184.9.62 ) at 8:26 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Ipod

Tony C:
Thanks for spending my money.
You're welcome. Ya know, I need one of those Adaptec Firewire cards too... :P:P
Wild Bill ( 12.91.151.236 ) at 8:21 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
rooftop antenna plan...

Kieran: I have dealt with condo associations before. I can tell you that they *could* prohibit you from putting up a 36' mast because your exclusive use ends at your eaves. One of my clients is an attorney and works at the FBI. She has researched this exhaustively and has even filed for a ruling from the ruling body. There is a vertical limit to your use.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 8:18 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Popcorn I am drooling...... Over this computer!

Gar: Yeah - it was intro'd in SF today. My son is a little bummed that he just got the 15" Titanium model, but I think there's an exchange option where he bought it. There are several other very nice features to it as well - I can't believe nobody has come out w/ a backlit keyboard yet. A friend who just showed up to connect her 15" Titanium to my network saw the new one and says she can't even look at her current model. Jobs has always been good at creating lust.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 8:15 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Popcorn I am drooling...... Over this computer!

Gar: Curtis' son just got one of those laptops... no joke. It's very nice. I dated a girl last year who had one... she was a graphic designer, and that was her main computer, I think.
Joelc ( 64.229.52.105 ) at 7:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Sure is quiet around here... I was hoping for a little more traffic given that I am stuck at home on my back.

As far as HT goes two quick points:

1. Am struggling with the Crestron as far programming it for the RPTV is concerned. I got lazy and decided to have a certified professional do it. Guess what... before they showed up everything worked by the RPTV... after three hours of their time... nothimg works. Amazing... I could have done it in 60 minutes but decided noit to given my workload and physical limitation (i.e. can lift or move anything more than 3 ponds for two weeks, cannoty drive for one week, etc.).

2. Whole house system (i.e. really a two to three room system). As I am thinking of moving in a year so I do not want anything that is either too fancy or too expensive. The current preferred option is a simple modulation system for the video and an ELAN z-series system (which can be seen http://www.elanhomesystems.com/consumer_products/z_series/ here) with very simple keypads (i.e. no touch pads as I want to save money). Any thoughts?
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 7:36 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Joe, hope all is well at work etc.. Just got done working with my Boss today, it went well, which is a very good thing considering my Job might be in question.
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 7:35 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Popcorn I am drooling...... Over this computer!

Check out this new widescreen 17" laptop by Mac.

http://www.apple.com/powerbook/index17.html
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 7:21 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
2nd shift

Evening all,
We have had more problems at work so I am on 2nd shift. Twoo weeks of working afternoon shift. This sucks! I check into the forum and it's a slow night :(
Gar ( 66.222.126.229 ) at 7:15 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

cai: Ditto to that!!!!!!! Listening to a pair of RM7si as I type this, I have had them for 3 years and love them. There in my office where I do most of my critical listening. I would love a JA full HT system, if I can find a decent price on them, I got these for $700 slightly used and will never get rid of them.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 5:45 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Circuit Shitty story

I got this email from a friend recently... (Robert you'll recognized the speaker deal as one you posted here... I passed it along to this friend)

Hey Kieran -

I forgot to tell you that I got those Creative 2.1 speakers you notified me
about at CC. I got them for $9.99 after rebate. Thanks for the tip. It
took some work but I was able to close the deal with them on 23 Dec. First,
they were sold out (as you might expect) so I went to CompUSA with the CC ad
and got them over there for $29.99 on a price match. Then I went back to CC
and talked the store manager into buying my unopened speakers and reselling
them to me so I could use the CC rebate of $20. I looked over the
"manufacturers rebate" form carefully and saw that the speakers had to be
purchased form CC. Since the CC manager was nice enough to do this out of
the kindness of his heart (CC certainly didn't make anything on the deal; in
fact they probably lost because of the paperwork) my opinion of them has
move up a notch from the bottom rung. I still hate dealing with the morons
on the floor but it was nice to see that not everyone there is an idiot with
an attitude.

Just thought you might find this story amusing.

Chris
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 5:21 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
rooftop antenna plan...

So, the FCC rules on OTA reception devices prohibit residential associations from outlawing rooftop antennae and DSS dishes. However, if the exterior of your home is not owned by you (e.g. in the case of a condo or appartment) then the FCC says that the association of building owner may prohibit such devices in "common" areas (i.e. anything that is not the exclusive use of the unit owner or tenant.)

This means that my condo association can say whether or not I can put up an antenna on the roof. They allow DSS dishes, but not antennas, generally.

However, the FCC says that I can do whatever I want with any portion of my condo/property that is exclusively mine (e.g. a balcony or patio). I have a small patio in front of my condo, which is about 25 ft wide and 8 feet deep. 2/3 of the patio is covered in concrete, the other 1/3 is dirt covered with gravel.

So, here's what I'm thinking: I'll ask for permission to put an antenna on the roof. If denied (most certainly) I'll ask again, this time indicating that if I can not put an antenna on the roof, I will install a Delhi DMX-36 36 foot tower in my front patio (for all to see of course) and mount the antenna on THAT! :-)

This Delhi tower is pretty cool. It requires only (heh..."ONLY") a 19 inch radius, 50 inch deep hole filled with concrete, to support it.

Now, I'm not REALLY going to do this, since I don't intend on staying at this condo for more than another year at the most. But if I did, I bet I could convince the association to let me put an antenna on the roof!
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 4:35 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

Rich F: Before I forget, try not to miss "The Show" at the San Remo hotel. That is where a good deal of speaker and sound processing manufarturers show their equipment. This exhibition is not within the CES organization, but it is just as good. For example, Hsu subwoofers exhibits at "The Show", among others.
AVB ( 64.41.33.180 ) at 4:26 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
OT Motorcycles & Cars

Johnbr: Eventually I hope :)
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 4:20 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
OT Motorcycles & Cars

AVB:Now that is a bike ? can it stop?.
AVB ( 64.41.33.94 ) at 3:18 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
OT Motorcycles & Cars

RickMTB: There is an entirely diffferent economy of scale between Cannondale and Dodge. Dodge already makes the engine, has the tooling and the other resources. Plus at $250K each they aren't aiming at the same market as Cannondale.

A $250K this is twice as much as those bikes with the helicopter jet engines, less HP though.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 2:36 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
OT Motorcycles & Cars

AVB: I hope that Dodge looks at what happened to Cannondale Corporation when it decided to get into the motorycle business before proceeding (fyi, Cannondale, a premier mountain bike and road bike company, decided to diversify (and presumably, leveraging its cycling expertise and excess manufacturing capabilities)to produce a motorcycle. Cannondale is now rumored to be on the verge of bankruptcy, and many insiders lay the blame on the motorcycle operations...
Wild Bill ( 12.91.120.126 ) at 2:33 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Joelc: More information than I needed to know! LOL!!

I hope you and your left nut have a speedy recovery.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 1:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

Rich F: If he is showing at CES this year, I would recommend that you go by the Joseph Audio exhibit and Listen to the RM7si bookshelf speakers. They are very good and have had very good reviews in Stereophile magazine. I have them as back speakers, with the RM25s for front and the Cynergy for center. They cost new about $1700.00, I do not know if this is within your budget or if they are small enough, about 12x20x8. We may pass each other as ships in the night since I will be mainly looking at sound processing hardware at the Alexis Park Hotel. The Sumiko exhibit, in the main convention center, is usually static - no sound- in case you wanted to explore the Vienna Acoustics or the Sonus Fabers.

Have a good time and if you are there on Friday evening, the AVS forum people are having a get together at the Sahara hotel from 7:00 to 10:00. The admission is free, cash bar and finger food - whatever that means, watch out for dirty nails. Sam Runco will be a guest speaker, as well as Stewart, from Stewart screens. If you have never heard Runco speaking, he is quite engaging and pleasant.

Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 12:47 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Ipod

Scott "popcorn": this is for a laptop. I saw a PCMCIA card/adaptor for firewire. I told him to get one of those.

But now I guess, I'm going to have to upgrade my PC. Thanks for spending my money.
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 12:45 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Joelc: Yeow! I'm wincing. Glad she didn't get your left nut.
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 12:44 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Details of future Sony Playstation...

RickMTB: Understood none of that. But I suppose it's good.
AVB ( 64.41.32.136 ) at 12:09 PM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
OT Motorcycles & Cars

A 500 hp, 400mph motorcycle made by ...... Dodge?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=Business&cat=Automotive_News

Must be backup for the 1,000 hp Cadillac.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 10:54 AM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Details of future Sony Playstation...

Here is some interesting info on the next generation Sony Playstation (PS3) that I ran across:

Playstation3 architecture revealed

The devil is in the details

By Adamson Rust: Tuesday 07 January 2003, 11:51


SOURCES SAID that the architecture of the Sony Playstation3 is patently clear when you've found the US patent that it filed September 26th last year.
A reliable source close to Sony's plans explained the way the Playstation3 works to the INQUIRER.

He said that the computers are made of cells, each one containing a CPU, which will probably be a PowerPC, and eight APUs (vectorial processors) each with 128K of memory.

It will run at 4GHz, producing a not inconsiderable 256Gflops, with the cells connected to the central 64MB memory through a switched 1024 bit bus.

It's still not clear how many of these "cells" will be used in the Playstation3, but Sony reckoned some time ago it could be as many as one teraflops, probably making it a four cell architecture.

Optical links – perhaps even FireWire optical links – could be used to share computing power.

The Playstation3 architecture is similar to the Playstation 2 but with some improvements, such as a larger number of VPUs, each with more memory. The operating system, too, is much improved.

But Playstations will still be very complex to program well, although its just as well that Sony doesn't want to take the Microsoft DirectX route.

Here you will find a diagram of the architecture for broadband networks (QuickTime).

And here's the relevant US patent. µ

(here is the URL of The Inquirer so you can view the architecture diagarm and US patent, in interested):
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7078
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 10:43 AM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
You heard it here first!

Ron: I had read that thread. NHT has been sold several times. I believe first they were purchased by Jensen and then Recoton. I loved the original NHT sound and products. I have turned a lot of friends on to every thing from the SuperZero to the 3.3's and VT-3's. IMHO,the new NHT speaker lines are actually quite good. I just got an NHT system for my cousin. SB-3's,SB-1's and SC-1 to go with a Marantz SR-7300. The SB-3's are an amazing little bookshelf speaker. Stereophile reviewed them and the guy (take it with a grain of salt) said in the conclusion that they were the best bookshelf/monitor he had ever heard. I'm just glad to see that someone bought them, and they just didn't drift off into oblivion.

My reference, "You heard it here first," was kind of me being ironic in that I posted this info a week or two ago, before TWICE announced it. I actually started posting that Recoton was in trouble and NHT weren't shipping product over a month ago.
BC ( 166.50.65.3 ) at 9:46 AM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Joelc: Glad your back with all your parts!
Joelc ( 64.229.52.105 ) at 9:29 AM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003

Good morning gang!

Back from the hospital after having my nut cut out, opened, coterized and put back. Not a great feeling!
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 3:05 AM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Ipod

Tony C: I agree w/ Scott... no pc should be w/o firewire these days.
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.33.102 ) at 2:35 AM EST Tuesday, January 7, 2003
Ipod

Tony C: Converter-shmerter... Just get an Adaptec Firewire card for the PC... I think CompUSA has them for $50... 3 firewire ports.
Gar ( 66.222.48.29 ) at 10:57 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HD screen shots

Curtis: ah Curtis, thanks for posting that link!!!! My Jaw dropped after seeing some of those images on my 23" HD Mac Screen. :) Many Thanks!!!!
Gar ( 66.222.48.29 ) at 10:44 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Curtis: Yup, all Macs do have both and have for sometime. I have a Canon DV Camcorder ZR50 and a Nikon Camera and the Ipod. Very nice setup, and very easy to use. Where do you do your A to D conversion? Only reason I was looking at this device is it allows allot more hookups and has a TV tuner in it to boot.

http://www.formac.com/p_bin/?cid=solutions_converters_studiodvtv
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 10:15 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Gar: All Macs have had both FireWire & USB inputs for some time. Were you the one who picked up a Canon DV camcorder recently? It'll do A to D video and audio conversion - then run it to the Mac via FW.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:10 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

Rich F: There should be three variations of Rockets set up at the show. They do not have their own booth buthave set ups in other peoples. One I know of is Cirrus Logic / Crystal Semiconductor.
Gar ( 66.222.48.29 ) at 9:32 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Trav1: (Irock) Isn't that a Car by Chevy? hahaha JK, I just use the good old Tape for now, but now allot of Car Stereos have RCA inputs on the back of them for hookups for external devices, friend just bought a Pioneer Deck with them and another friend has a Eclipse with one.
Gar ( 66.222.48.29 ) at 9:29 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Tony C: Does he use a PC or a Mac? Mac has something called a ForMac DV
device that converts just about anything via audio or video using Firewire and USB and Analog inputs and outputs along with S-Video etc.. Expensive though $400 bucks, it is something I am looking at because of all the video and audio I do.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:24 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

Rich F: No prob.. in fact, I would be very interested in your take on these speakers. I know the folks on Speaker Asylum rave about Totem speakers (the Mite and the larger floorstanders like the Staf). The price of the entire system sure looks good (more than the Energy/Mirage/Sound Dynamics, Klipsch, and even Definitive Pro Cinema setups, but they seem to be a significant step up in design, quality, and workmanship.
Tony C ( 67.248.141.29 ) at 9:12 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Gar: A friend of mine got the IPod for Christmas. It has the firewire connector but his computer doesn't have a firewire input. So we're looking for a converter.
Tony C ( 67.248.141.29 ) at 9:10 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Trav1: I think that those FM devices work great in rural areas. In a market like Chicago where every high school has a radio station, (especially at the low end of the dial) you find lots of interference.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 9:02 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

RickMTB: Thanks for the lead. Now they are small speakers. I can't wait to see what I can find at CES. Only 3 more days.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 8:42 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
You heard it here first!

Gasgeek: Some thoughts on it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=205784&highlight=nht+rockford
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 8:31 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Gar: Gar, have you tried the irock? Wireless doohicky to send it to your car radio? Range 30ft. Skeptical I am, but for $20 it might be worth something to look at if your taking it lots of places.
Gar ( 66.222.48.29 ) at 8:23 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Tony C: Good old Monster Cable even has cable for the Ipod. Not sure where to get a converter cable though. I use the analog outputs to my Office Receiver which has connections right on the front of it, using a HK 225 for my office.
Tony C ( 205.188.209.71 ) at 8:18 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Gar: You can use the analog outputs for playback.
What about downloading from the computer. You get a USB to Firewire cable?
Do you know where to get one?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:36 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
You heard it here first!

http://www.twice.com/index.asp?layout=story&doc_id=110150&display=breakingNews
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 6:11 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HD screen shots

... any Joe sixpack should be able to appreciate these http://doug.le.home.attbi.com/
trav1 ( 192.76.84.195 ) at 6:09 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
ipod

I'm only looking for the 5gig pc version. The wife would like to have it for work.
trav1 ( 192.76.84.195 ) at 6:08 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Doh!

Gar: Double posting because you love the ipod.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 6:08 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Doh!

Gar: UHHH... I count three posts... ;-) Trigger happy, huh? :)
Gar ( 66.222.126.86 ) at 5:54 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Doh!

Sorry for the double post
Gar ( 66.222.126.86 ) at 5:53 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Tony C: I have a Mac version, because I Love the way iTunes organizes everything for you etc... The PC Software is a bit different but it is supposed to be easy to use. My unit has a firewire input, but you can buy a converter, a Firewire to USB or you can use the analog output also. The download times are super fast.
Gar ( 66.222.126.86 ) at 5:41 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Tony C: I have a Mac version, because I Love the way iTunes organizes everything for you etc... The PC Software is a bit different but it is supposed to be easy to use. My unit has a firewire input, but you can buy a converter, a Firewire to USB or you can use the analog outputs also. The download times are super fast.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:38 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
OTA Feeds

Tony C: My OTA(UHF)standard definition feed on the HDTV channels always looks better than my satellite locals do. I don't watch the satellite locals unless the OTA hdtv channels are down for some reason. My local station UHF feeds are mostly widescreen or at least small black bars. Much better resolution. My local ABC news feeds are widescreen and look almost HD. The only reason I have satellite local stations is for my bedroom sat box.
Gar ( 66.222.126.86 ) at 5:37 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Tony C: I have a Mac version, because I Love the way iTunes organizes everything for your etc... The PC Software is a bit different but it is supposed to be easy to use. My unit has a firewire input, but you can buy a converter, a Firewire to USB or you can use the analog outputs also.
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 5:19 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Gar: You have a Mac don't you...
do you know about the PC versions?
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 5:18 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Gar: Does your Ipod have a firewire input?
What do you use if you don't have firewire.
Tony C ( 65.214.102.5 ) at 4:23 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003

Curtis and Wild Bill: I must have gotten a really good feed. I had it on in the basement HT and in the family room. The OTA feed looked way, way better than the cable did.
Wow, I can't wait to see the playoffs!

BTW, I got a service tech from Tweeter coming out on the 20th to look at my red burst. It's a day after I get back from my cruise.
Gar ( 66.222.126.86 ) at 4:20 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
LD holdouts... blah.

Kieran: I agree with you. I sold my Old LD Player awhile back ago, I still have a few LDs laying around, the Newer version of Star Wars in DD and a few others. I might pick up a used one cheap, but in no hurry, hell would have better luck just selling these LDs.
Gar ( 66.222.126.86 ) at 4:17 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

trav1:I have one, and the only reason I got a deal is because I bought a pretty extensive and expensive computer system. The 20gig is what I have and they run just under $500, I have seen them for $475. The 10gig is about $100 bucks cheaper along with the 5 gig. You might want to try J&R online and see if you can get them cheaper. I think it is the best MP3 etc... Player out there, plus you get PDA functions to boot.
Kieran ( 66.224.86.66 ) at 3:41 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
LD holdouts... blah.

Met a guy here at work today who still thinks LD is better than DVD. He also tried to tell me that Pioneer Elite is the best DVD player money can buy. Granted they're good, but to say they're bar none the best bothers me. Anyway, he was trying to tell me that the pixelization of DVD makes it worse than LD. I told him "uh... 480 lines vs. 420 lines." Yeah LD still has a sort of nice analog look to it, but to me it's like watching film w/o my glasses on... analog, but blurry! ;-)

Besides, w/ progressive scan and anamorphic, DVD can't be touched by LD.
trav1 ( 192.76.82.89 ) at 1:57 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Ipod

Anyone have a connection or know where one can pick up the Ipod. I thought I remembered someone in here talking about it awhile ago, or maybe it was for a mac I can't remember. The ipod looks wonderful, but for their respective retail prices I am not so sure. Thanks.
Curtis ( 12.234.119.63 ) at 12:40 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HD in the HOUSE!

Kieran:Glad to hear that it's working out well for you. Enjoy.
Curtis ( 12.234.119.63 ) at 12:39 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HD Football

Tony C: Bill's right - no HD games last weekend. CBS will do next weekends AFC games as well as the AFC championship. ABC has the Super Bowl in 720p. FAUX did 480p widesrceen and will continue same.
Wild Bill ( 12.91.138.233 ) at 12:07 PM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HD Football

Tony C: AFAIK, the Cleveland/Pittsburgh game was NOT in HD (it wasn't here). Next weeks games are scheduled for hi-def but no this past weeks games (on CBS). I think you just saw a nice upconversion of a standard definition 4:3 feed.

JoelC: I looked at Elan last year in the Spring. I have not looked at their latest offerings. My impression was that Elan was mostly glitz and not nearly the substance that an AMX or Crestron system provides. We carry Niles for our low end distributed audio and video and Crestron for the high end. At some point we'll probably bite the bullet and add ADA as well. ADA offers some solutions for multi-zone distribution that are hard to beat. Since you already have a partial Crestron system why don't you consider adding to it? Hope this helped.
Gar ( 66.222.49.143 ) at 11:24 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
For Sale - Kenwood Sovereign DV-5900M

cai: Man I wish you were selling this puppy a month ago. I bought a CD/DVD
changer from Sony. It was the only one that would fit in my Custom Rack that is built into my wall. All the other CD/DVD Changers where too long.
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 11:19 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
PSA: Kenwood KMZ1 demo 6-ch amp $400 at Audio Advisors

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetail.asp?sku=DMKENKMZ1&product_name=KM-Z1%206-Channel%20Power%20Amp%20--%20DEMO
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:08 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
On the Way

BYork: Check is in the mail. Never mind the question about Brentwood in the letter. Duh!
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 11:04 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
PSA: Kenwood KMZ1 demo 6-ch amp $400 at Audio Advisors

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetail.asp?sku=DMKENKMZ1&product_name=KM-Z1%206-Channel%20Power%20Amp%20--%20DEMO
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 10:41 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

RickMTB: And just in case, it looks like the entire system price is $1700...
RickMTB ( 161.114.1.185 ) at 10:30 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HTers looking at smaller speaker systems

Ron and Rich F... here's a beautiful speaker system to consider:
http://www.totemacoustic.com/NewFiles/dreamcatcher.html#Anchor--------56664
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 9:49 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
For Sale - Kenwood Sovereign DV-5900M

I have a brand new, bought at the beginning of November, 400 DVD disk changer, this is the one with the Faroudja chip. Any one interested can e-mail me at casimiroa@netscape.net - I will discuss any fair price and shipping.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 9:42 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
cables

simm: One of the main differences between inexpensive cables and expensive ones is the termination. If they are soldered the expensive ones usually have better quality control and materials. The cable may be better insulated against electro magnetic interference and the metal conductor, may be of a higher quality. All this translates to a better cable in terms of longevity - oxidation - and more leeway when routing it. Whether one can hear a difference with new inexpensive cables versus new expensive ones, is a matter of much debate.

The other part of this equation is assigning the cost level at which a cable becomes expensive. If you have a set length, it may not hurt for you to inquire about the cost of having them made by one of the cable companies, i.e. Better Cables, Audioquest, etc.

Tony C ( 67.248.80.101 ) at 8:48 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
HD Football

Did anyone watch the Browns/Steelers game in HD on CBS?
I thought the picture was great but was disappointed that it wasn't in wide-screen.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 7:33 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
If you have the room

AVB: you are right and I am wrong. Way back in the eighties I saw and lsietened to Infinity's largest/most expensive system... I believe they were called "IV's" or "V's" and they consisted of multiple towers of EMIT drivers. Again, impressive sound, but not realistic. If these are only 8-12 years old they must not be the ones...
AVB ( 64.41.32.247 ) at 6:29 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
If you have the room

RickMTB: Are you sure it was those speakers? This model is 8-12 years old now I believe.
Gar ( 66.222.126.182 ) at 12:00 AM EST Monday, January 6, 2003
Go NINERS!!!!

Kieran: Curtis: I have always been a Niners fan when there not playing the
Packers since the early years of Montana. That being said, Farve has had the Niners number for awhile now. I think the Jets deflated them and I think there going to be in the Super Bowl, then again anything is up for grabs.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 9:31 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
HD in the HOUSE!

Well, I got the Dish 6000 system hooked up finally today. Took half of yesterday and most of today to get it all right aiming the two dishes. The Dish500 was harder to aim for me than the oval DirecTV dish was.

Anyway, I now have two dishes mounted outside my bedroom window, and my TV is crankin' out 1080i. :-D

I subscribed to HBO-HD, SHOWTIME-HD, CBS-HD, and my local channels. I did NOT subscribe to any programming package like Top50 or Top100. Just locals and the HD channels. Total monthly bill: $33.98. If I got the Top50 also, it would be another $25.00 more and most of the channels I want aren't in Top50, and they're not worth the extra expense of getting the Top100 package.

I can NOT get Discovery HD-Theater though. The receiver I have doesn't have the "Enhanced HD Adapter" (aka 8PSK module) in it. So, I'll have to order that from Rat Shack or Sears for another $100 or so. No big deal, as the price Curtis gave me for the package, plus another $100 for the 8PSK, plus another $150 for the OTA tuner module, still puts me at about what I could have bought this for from a dealer, but then I'd have had to subscribe to the package channels, which I don't want.

Thanks again CC!!!!!!!
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:24 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
If you have the room

AVB: I heard these at a Stereophile show in San Mateo. Impressive, but didn't sound real... heard Ray Brown playing the bass and it sounded like Ray Brown was about twenty feet tall and the mike was inside the bass. The ML Statements were much better...
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 9:24 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
Go NINERS!!!!

Yeah baby!!!! Who knows... maybe they CAN pull this one off after all... I never thought they'd make it to the s'bowl, but if they keep this up, they may prove me wrong. Especially since The Pack went down... anything is possible now. ;-)
Curtis ( 12.234.119.63 ) at 9:11 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
whew!!

Gar: Yep T.O.'s got an ego but still a pretty good player. At least he doesn't pull stunts like the Giants Shokey - http://msn.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs02/s/nyg_shockeywater.html
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 8:39 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
forum dues

BYork: check going out in mail tomorrow.
Gar ( 66.222.50.41 ) at 8:35 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
If you have the room

AVB: I finally found those Cigars you where supposed to get. Wife forgot where she put them and I found them yesterday. They will be on there way this week. Also
it looks like the big D, got that guy on Audiogon. Great Speakers for the money, I wish I did have the room.
Gar ( 66.222.127.2 ) at 8:31 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
whew!!

Curtis: I would say!! Two great games today in comparison to yesterdays games. I think the Packers should have used SF playbook today. Although still not a fan of Owens, great player but a moron along with a few Giants players.
AVB ( 64.41.33.10 ) at 8:08 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
If you have the room

these will fill it up pretty well. http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?spkrfull&1041905326
Curtis ( 12.234.119.63 ) at 8:08 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
whew!!

My heart can't take many more comeback games like that one! The Giants played great but the kicker blew it twice late.
Joe ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 7:40 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
JJ

Congrads
Joe ( 152.163.189.201 ) at 7:39 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
cables

simm: I like Audioquest. You can also find deals at www.tsto.com They sometimes have new cables that are not the new line, so they are greatly discounted.
T-Man ( 208.40.137.101 ) at 6:35 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
NEXT YEAR

BAGMAN: Indeed. Two games in one weekend where I was on the edge. Yikes. I thought we were done for but now you see why we like "Touchdown Tommy". He can throw that ball and keeps his cool. I think you have a QB controversy because Holcomb seems to be a damn good player. Good game.
BAGMAN ( 65.40.38.254 ) at 5:33 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
NEXT YEAR

T-Bone; Had you on the edge. Good game!
Tony C ( 172.166.112.160 ) at 3:11 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

Simm: I will also vote for AR as being quality without heavy price. I also like Monster. I limit myself on what I would spend on a cable. I would spend more on a component cable than a regular analog connect. I also would not spend a great deal on a sub cable.
Tony C ( 172.166.112.160 ) at 3:09 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

JT: Best To get out with whatever you can. Congrates.

JJ: Those are great pictures!! Both kids and Mom are real cute. Interesting how the only pic of dad has his face obscured. :)

Well, I think that ANTHONY should have been a first name choice. And if you chose Peter as a first name and Max as a middle name...well then he could have been Peter Max!! Get it? Or are you too young?

You will be very happy that both boys are close in age. But go for that little girl now. I hope you have better luck than me.
Johnbr ( 24.112.61.139 ) at 3:00 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

JJ Congrats on the on the new help to cut the grass in 12 years.
Joelc ( 64.229.52.105 ) at 1:38 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

Good afternoon guys...

JJ: Congrats on Max!

JT: Congrats on selling your house!

WIldBill: Congrats on Ohio State. As an aside, any comment on my previous post re: whole-house-system, particularly the Elan system.
Rich F ( 143.166.83.134 ) at 1:13 PM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
'Max''Max'Max'

JJ: Congrats on the baby (great pics) and selling your house. Max is a great name. Best wishes for many happy and healthy year.
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 9:53 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
cables

Thanks for the feedback guys. The response mirrored what I felt all along. I may try the AR's just as an experiment. I am not a tech head and rely only on my own senses to tell differences.

JJ: An amusing story, to me anyway, about the birth of my youngest daughter. Caitlin was just 14 months old when Stephanie was born-not a planned pregnancy- and the day we brought her home Caitlin was sitting with my wife on the couch looking at Stephanie who was sleeping. We were trying to get her used to her new sister. Caitlin apparently thought she was a baby doll when Stephanie opened her eyes and started crying. It scared the crap out of Caitlin who ran out of the room screaming to her grandmother. I guess it was traumatic for her and was not real funny at the time but is hilarious to me now. The girls are best friends and we are glad that they are so close in age now.
BAGMAN ( 65.40.38.254 ) at 9:38 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
It's Time

JJ: Very nice...congrats
BC ( 67.234.6.48 ) at 9:04 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

Congrats Jim, that's a good looking boy!
BC ( 67.234.6.48 ) at 9:03 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
cable/interconnects question

simm: I also can recommend the Acoustic Research cables. I used to buy Monster before I knew any better and would often have issues with poor construction (bad solder joints). I've bought the Radio Shack gold cables too but I don't like the connectors they use (very tight).
The AR cables are some of the best inexpensive cables I've found. I seriously doubt you would hear a difference from more expensive cables on the level of equipment most of us have.
AVB ( 64.41.33.10 ) at 7:51 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
'Max'

JJ: There is a Max already in my house anyway so I guess I didn't need two of them. My Maine Coon cat is named Sir Maximum Meow or just Max for short :)
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 12:11 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

Gar: 8pm bedtime is a godsend. He looks forward to it I think. Ours too like clock-work.
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 12:08 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003
'Max'

Gar: I don't know how I got Max*3 in the subject.
anyway. Yeah, my wife worked on my for while for a 2nd. The 1st is just so amazing. She's very worried about being able to give him the attention he's been used to for the past 33 months. Things will change. I don't think he's quite aware of the change that is about to take place in his life.
He knows something changing.
He knows there is a baby. I'm not sure he realizes that he is coming to his house soon, and that he's staying.
He's got this thing. We prompt him with: "I ...."
He says: "I luss" (love) "Momma"
I say (or my wife says): "and ...."
He says: "Dadda!"

Last night, I was changing him, I say: "I ...."
"luss. Momma!"
"and ..."
"Baaabbbbyyyyyy!"

Damn that's sweet. 'cept I'm relegated to 3rd now. hehe
anyhoo. gonna be an interesting coupla weeks here.
Gar ( 66.222.126.171 ) at 12:06 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

Curtis: You got that right, Atlanta played well, and we just didn't play. Getting rid of key players last year and starting fresh with all new receivers this year and all the injuries didn't help. Our Coach was pretty cool about it, said we all played and coached bad today no excuses period. Regardless, having 9 of your starters out sure doesn't help. First Time EVER in Packer history, that they lost a playoff game at home. Must have jinxed it with the new field renovations. hahahaha(JK)! I hope not.
Gar ( 66.222.126.171 ) at 12:00 AM EST Sunday, January 5, 2003

JJ: I guess I jumped ahead of myself there, a up coming Congrads to you. Little one isn't here yet. My Son is the same age as yours, and he is in bed like clock work at 8pm which is nice.
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 11:58 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
It's time

Gar: Thanks
I'm a wee bit jealous. I don't think I will get to see TTT in the theaters (never mind 3 times!). But after watching on my system tonight, the only downside I see is having to wait until the DVD is released. My (budget) HT will meet or exceed theatrical presentation.
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 11:58 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

Gar: Sorry to see the Pack go down like that. In addition to flat play/ weird coaching decisions, they caught about every bad break possible in one game. Atlanta played well and had something to do with the outcome.

cai: Congratulations to the Jets. They looked very sharp. You're not a Giants fan too are you? There's an unwritten law here that you can't be both a 9er's and Raiders fan ... though I like them both. Oakland's chances are much better right now. I don't think the rest of the world wants to see either an all NY or all Bay Area Super Bowl.
Gar ( 66.222.126.171 ) at 11:57 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
'Max''Max'Max'

JJ: A Big FLIPPING CONGRADS!!!!!! My Wife is still working on me for our second, but I am not sure if she is ready. Hey cool name..... I have a long name also. Garnet Henry Ward III, again Congrads.
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 11:54 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

excuse typos please. 3 golden monkeys during LOTR: FOTR: EE
Gar ( 66.222.126.171 ) at 11:54 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
It's time

JJ: Glad to hear things are going good with the family etc.. I saw Two Towers 3 times, one freebie with the free ticket I got with LOTR extended version, which I haven't watched yet. Looking for a new line of work, the industry I am in is going down the shitter, especially in my area.
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 11:53 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
'Max''Max'Max'

the name.
He wasn't named 'til birth +32hours. This was a similar time-frame to our 1st son's naming, Alexander.
I think 'Max' was really our first choice. But when we first thought of it months back, 'Maximillian' seemed to be quite a mouthhful, kind of 'too much.' 'Maxwell' seemed to do the trick for us, but we were never 'gung-ho' about it. We had some other names we liked too. (For instance 'Lucas' (no comments from the peanut gallery!) my wife liked it more than I did. But a friend (more of an associate) of my wife from work just named his son Lucas, which neg'ed it for her)
We just couldn't commit 100% to Maxwell.
We started telling people we were naming him 'Max.' They'd say: "Oh Maximillian?!?" "No we think Maxwell".
Then somehow, we started thinking about Maximillian, and liking it. I'm guess it was getting to know him just a bit. I mean, you just can't go naming someone 'Maximillian' willy-nilly.
Now that it is official, we are happy. And everybody we tell, says: "cool name!"
'Anthony' was our primary choice for middle name. But combined with Maxillian, seemed too long. 'Peter' was one of the other choices for first name. Seemed to work better with Max...
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 11:37 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

excuse typos please
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 11:37 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
It's time

Thanks guys
Mom and Baby are doing fine. Everybody is home Monday (C-section (Scheduled))

I am up way later than I should be, considering the amount of sleep I will be getting the next few weeks (months).

But I fugured, might as well take advantage of a near empty house. 2.75yo Alexander is in bed at 8pm.

So I finally got thru Lord of the Rings: The Fellowhip of the Ring: Extended Edition tonight.

Damn Fine movie.
I need to compose 'Ode to an HT'. (In my down-time at work)
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 11:21 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Yee Haw!!

Wild Bill: Willis McGahee's injury hurts in a number of ways... he was targeted by the Houston Texans as a likely firts round pick (at the #3 in Round One). He is the only impact RB in the draft... now Houston will probably trade the pick to a team that wants to draft a QB (like Leftwich or possibly Eli Manning) and mve down in the draft. I am guessing McGahee decides to try and finish school now, but he lost millions with the injury.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 11:18 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
House in Houston

JT: Someone would want to leave Houston? ;-)
Gar ( 66.222.126.100 ) at 11:07 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Tony C (Off Topic)

I think between the Bears and Packers they must have had the most injured players this season out of all the NFL Teams. Tonight 1st String Starters out.
Chad Clifton/Tauser/Driver/Green/Sharper/Brown/etc...... Hell Farve was throwing to guys I never heard of. Good record, very disappointing end to a season though, first time I have heard boos at Lambeau field in many years. Hopefully the Bears and Packers will have better luck next year, but I have a feeling the Vikings are going to be tough also.
Gar ( 66.222.126.100 ) at 11:06 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Tony C (Off Topic)

I think between the Bears and Packers they must have had the mose injured players this season out of all the NFL Teams. Tonight 1st String Starters out.
Chad Clifton/Tauser/Driver/Green/Sharper/Brown/etc...... Hell Farve was throwing to guys I never heard of. Good record, very disappointing end to a season though, first time I have heard boos at Lambeau field in many years. Hopefully the Bears and Packers will have better luck next year, but I have a feeling the Vikings are going to be tough also.
Gar ( 66.222.126.24 ) at 10:05 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

Damn I need a spell checker Playing calling? Doh!! Can't type.
AVB ( 64.41.33.10 ) at 9:39 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
It's Time

JJ: You beat me to it!! I was going to name my giant 89 cuft sub Max! How's mom doing and when does he go home?
AVB ( 64.41.33.10 ) at 9:37 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
cable/interconnects question

simm: I have everything from the RS Gold to some pretty fancy (for me) cables that I bought cheap used. No difference heard here. I won't buy Monster just on principal but I have found that the AR brand is a bit higher quality then the RS. If you want to get a large amount of AR then check www.accessories4less.com for some decent pricing. I've also found that the discounts on car audio brand cables can be pretty good on discontinued models. You'll have to search for them though. Lastly, MCM audio has good prices on some upper scale cables if you want to try one or two. Have you talked to your local store about trade-ins? I've bought some of mine that way from others who are upgrading. JMHO.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 9:31 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

WAY TO GO JETS
Gar ( 66.222.126.24 ) at 9:29 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Yee Haw!!

Wild Bill: That was one of the best games I have seen in awhile. More than I can say for the 2 NFL games today. Colts didn't show up and I turned off the Packers game(First time ever) because they sure don't want anymore wins, there playing calling sucks!! Although having the most injuries in the NFL sure doesn't help, I am surprised they won as many as they did this year with all
there injuries. On a better note it was great seeing the Buckeyes win!!!!!!
Gar ( 66.222.126.24 ) at 9:28 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Yee Haw!!

Wild Bill: That was one of the best games I have seen in awhile. More than I can say for the 2 NFL games today. Colts didn't show up an I turned off the Packers game(First time ever) because they sure don't want anymore wins, there playing calling sucks!! Although having the most injuries in the NFL sure doesn't help, I am surprised they won as many as they did this year with all
there injuries. On a better note it was great seeing the Buckeyes win!!!!!!
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:13 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
House in Houston

JT: Good news.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:13 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
It's Time

JJ: Way cool!!!
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 8:42 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
It's Time

JJ: congrats...........great pictures as well.
JJ ( 69.3.173.60 ) at 8:06 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
It's Time

to meet max
JT ( 65.30.238.18 ) at 7:42 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
House in Houston

Well guys, it looks like I FINALLY got my house in Houston sold. Not the best market down there. I'm losing money, but at least I won't have two mortgages anymore.
Scott "popcorn" ( 64.218.216.116 ) at 6:33 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
cable/interconnects question

simm: The opinion that I have on cables is that, if you have the right impedance (for video cables), and the conductor is large enough (bigger than the spahgetti wire that comes with components), you're doing good. Do higher-priced cables sound different? Depends on how the cable is made. But, this is changing the sound coming through the cable (depending on how the cable is made)... For example, the braiding that Kimber cables use attenuate the signal. So, what it boils down to with me is you need a good cable made up of a good-size center conductor and a good shield around it. That's about all that matters.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 5:44 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
cable/interconnects question

simm: I believe that as long as you buy a quality made cable you are fine.
Wild Bill ( 12.92.107.201 ) at 5:09 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Yee Haw!!

Everyone: What a game! Needless to say I'm extremely happy. I bought a bunch of "We made it there" gear a couple of weeks ago from Longs' Bookstore in Columbus so my son and I were outfitted with "Playing For All The Chips" shirts and other Fiesta Bowl stuff. Now it's time to order the "We won the game" stuff. I really did believe Ohio State's defense was good enough to keep them in the game and I kept the faith all the way through. It certainly was a stomach churner.

I hope Willis McGahee's injury isn't too severe but I haven't seen a knee turned inside out like that in a long time. I have to wonder if he'll be able to walk normally again, let alone play football.
simm ( 66.56.155.14 ) at 5:05 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
cable/interconnects question

I know this is a controversial subject but I trust the opinions of everyone here. I will admit that for years I have used the cheap cables that came with my components when I bought them. Over the last year or so I have slowly replaced them with Radio Shack gold cables but truthfully I don't hear any difference between the RS and the el cheapos I was using. Is there a difference for those of you have gone from something like the RS's to higher end cables? If it would make an audible difference I would have no problem moving up again although I would probably not consider cables that go above $40-$50 for basic audio interconnects. What do you think?

How about video cables? I am using a RS audio/video cable as a component cable right now although I am getting ready to buy a real component cable- should I go with a RS component or would the additional cost of higher end video cables be justified?

I see this kind of post all the time on other forums and usually don't read b/c they always turn into "pissing" matches. I am looking for real advice. Thanks......
Chris L. ( 68.71.41.3 ) at 4:13 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Vacation observations

Joe: Now you're really gonna be missing that .5 oz now that you know it's not there. :)
Gar ( 66.222.127.198 ) at 2:18 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Vacation observations

Joe: I love Blue, good beer. A Hockey Beer to me, because I saw many North Stars games sipping that brand. Well now there the Dallas Stars DOH!!!!!!!
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 1:28 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Vacation observations

I may have mentioned in the past I enjoy Labatt Blue. Well here in Michigan it's servered in a 11.5oz bottel. On vacation I grabbed of hold of a Blue and it felt fatter. I quickley pointed this out to a amazed look from my wife. Sure enough the bottle in Florida was 12oz.

I plan on writing Labatt to explain this
Scott "popcorn" ( 209.184.8.91 ) at 1:04 PM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
AMP research - kaput?

RickMTB: My bad... I am out of the loop per say, and I just assumed that 9 speeds had trickled all the way down by now. :)

Yes, AMP is still in business, but they are doing automotive parts, such as the aluminum bed extenders like you see on the Ford Explorer SportTrac. www.amp-research.com

I don't know that I'd stick with AMP unwaveringly, but the linkage fork is really nice... a traditional fork would need very little stiction for me to like it... My attitude has changed about bikes these days... Need coil springs for suspension, they are IMO, much more adjustable than air or elastomers. Anyway, it's going to be a while before I upgrade my bike, but while we were on the subject, I wanted to pick your brain :)
Joelc ( 64.229.59.194 ) at 11:28 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

Good morning gang...
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:43 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
AMP research - kaput?

Scott... first of all, questioning my facts on mountain bikes? Really??? Look at the last three initials in my username? I wouldn't think of questioning your knowledge about "popcorn" (or BeOS;-)...

Just kidding... didn't see any 27 speed bikes at the $300 to $500 price range that Joe is looking at. Most use Acera or Alivio drivetrains and to the best of my knowledge Shimano doesn't offer a 9 speed hub/cassette/rear derailleur/shifter at that point. You have to go up to Deore (and a full Deore drivetrain, which won't realistically happen at that price point... even my daughter's new Haro mixes mostly Alivio with the Deore rear derailleur).

Re: AMP Research... don't believe they even exist anymore. Heck, is Horst even alive still? ;-) I haven't even seen a AMP-style bike or fork in many years. I recall you really like the way they work, but are you sure you want to invest a lot of money in that technology, when it will be tough to find mechanics that have worked on the bikes and it probably will be a headache to find parts?

I do recall the disk brake you are looking for was pretty light. Seems that disk brakes have come a long way. II still have v-brakes on all my bikes but I see lots of folks with disk brakes on a wide range of bikes now. Seems the cable-driven disk brakes (versus hydraulic) have come a long way in performance... maybe one of those might work at what you are trying to do? Avid makes a good one (pretty light, very dependable) and so do Magura and Hayes (as well as more traditional hydraulic ones). SHimano does offer disk brakes at the XTR and XT levels. The disk brake companies will indicate the mounting specs (I suspect this might be the challenge with that AMP bike... making sure it uses the same mount). The thought of bleeding brake lines and fear of leaks worry me about hydraulics, btw... hence I would consider the mechanical (cable-driven) kind, but thats my two cents, and some folks believe the hydraulics still work better.

But again, with all the good current designs, bikes, and forks, you really sure you want to search out that specific one???
AVB ( 64.41.32.43 ) at 9:03 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Great game

Sometimes things just go right. I always root for anybody against the Cowboys, anybody against the damn Irish and anybody against the Hurricanes. Way to go Ohio!
BAGMAN ( 209.26.21.192 ) at 7:17 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
EDGE OF THE SEAT

Wild Bill & T-Man, Wow!
Joe ( 198.208.223.35 ) at 6:43 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

Good Morning


Today I am at work :( However everyone is working and things should go smooth. Ron, thanks for the information on the 3800. Myself or my wife still have not burned a DVD. It seems wiht the holidays and all there is never enought time. Add the daughter who has learned to open the disc drives on the computer, which can be a bad thing.

Rick & Kieran again thinks for the input. Rick my zip code is 48423.
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 4:39 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Mustangs

Curtis: That would be a 64 1/2 Mustang... no such thing as a 63 1/2, the Mustang hit the showroom floors in the spring (I think) of 1964. My Mom bought one in Florida when she returned from living 2 years in the Carribbean in June '64. Drove it to MN from FL. Owned it for a while, then sold it to my grandparents, as she couldn't afford it, or had to move or something... then it was destroyed a few years later when a tornado touched down on it. Turned it into a Ford pancake. Seems we all have a story about a great 'Stang that bit the dust. :-)
Kieran ( 209.204.144.50 ) at 4:34 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Trek bikes and more questions.

Scott "popcorn": Don't know off hand about your AMP questions... but to correct you back, ;-) The bikes Joe is looking at really do come with 24 speeds, still... surprising to me, too. :-P
Scott "popcorn" ( 207.193.33.176 ) at 2:52 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Trek bikes and more questions.

RickMTB & Kieran: I have a query at this point... I know AMP is no longer making the D1 disc brake nor the F3 and F4 forks. I don't believe they are doing anything in the bike industry, save for the bike specifically for Mercedes? Anyway, my question is... Is a brake equal to the D1 still available? I heard some time ago that Rock Shox had licensed it, but they don't appear to be making it anymore. Second question: is a linkage fork still being made somewhere? I love my F3, but I'd need the equivalent of an F4 whenever I decide to get a full-suspension frame (and it will also need front and rear discs)... I thought I'd ask you two about this because you seem to be more in the loop than I am at this point.

Also, a correction... Kieran is right about this one, most bikes come with 27 speeds nowadays, not 24, nor the "ancient" 21. :P
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:32 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

... what he really wants of course is a Shelby GT500 ... keep saving kid!
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:30 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Curtis

Gar: My older bro got a new (he's 10 years my senior) 63 1/2 Mustang convertable that he smashed up in Hawaii in grad school. I never forgave him for that, nor did he ;-) There are several 'Stang graveyards here with reasonablbly priced parts. Brian has lots of restoration options with tons of no rust CA parts - should be a fun project for us together.
Gar ( 66.168.29.178 ) at 1:13 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Curtis

A big Congrads on that Mustang your son and you bought. Been a Mustang fan for years and it was one of my first cars I had in college. A 1965 Mustang, and it was my grandfathers, thing was very fast of course :)
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 1:12 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Speakers

The opening in the shelves is 21.5" H X 26'W X 18" D. I will have to bring my tape measure to CES :-)
Curtis ( 12.234.154.211 ) at 1:02 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
great game

Wild Bill: I watched it at my local microbrewery. A kid (19 or 20) from Columbus was there wearing an OSU sweatshirt. He moved here 2 days ago and was in a panic state most of the way through. The regulars bought his dinner & drinks - I think he was in tears at the end! Not one Miami fan in the place.

This team reminds me a lot of the '81 49'ers. Nobody really belived in them but themselves. The f&%kers went on to win the Super Bowl of course.
cai ( 68.100.159.101 ) at 12:54 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
OHIO STATE & BARKER DAVIS OF THE WASH TIMES

WILD BILL: BY ALL MEANS GO TO THE LIBRARY TODAY AND PICK UP FRIDAY'S SPORTS PAGE OF THE WASHINGTON TIMES AND READ THE ARTICLE HEADED "SIESTA BOWL".

YOU WILL ENJOY TODAY'S GAME EVEN MORE.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BUCKEYES.

Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 12:51 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
WOW what a game is right

BYork: Now that was entertainment at its finest. I don't know about the officiating and it should have been in HiDef but it was one hell of a game.
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 12:50 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Speakers

Ron: Those Rockets look really interesting. I wonder what a system consisting of 3 centers as the fronts with an REL or M&L sub would sound like. I hope they are at CES.
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 12:32 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

er....that would be Ohio STATE

It's still hard for a U of M grad to even type those words!

;-P
BYork ( 64.172.7.194 ) at 12:31 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003

WOW. What a game.

Congrats, Wild Bill! The Ohio Stae University deserves the championship after that performance.
Gar ( 66.168.29.178 ) at 12:19 AM EST Saturday, January 4, 2003
Wild Bill

WAY TO GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!! Great game, and a very close one!!! Congrads!!!!!
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 11:52 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003

Joe: I put some pictures from my digital camera on a CD to try playback on the Denon 3800. It works slick as hell.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 11:17 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003

Good God I can not type today. Sorry for all the errors.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:54 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Small Vandie speaker

RickMTB:Interesting you posren the Vandys. had them in the back on my mind. I am a little concerned that they may be a bit small for my room. Any thoughts?
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:50 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

JT: I at one time had a pair of B&W Natulis 803's. I will not go into why but I had a fall out with B&W over them. However they are nice speakers. I agree that the the 600 series sound very nice,
Trav1 ( 4.47.74.106 ) at 10:49 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
ghost recon

Gar: Just got Ghost Recon and the Live pack. In the process of signing on. Just lost my cable, guess I have to make a new one.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 10:42 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Small Vandie speaker

http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/VLR1.html
JT ( 65.30.238.18 ) at 10:41 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Ron: Have you given a listen to the smaller B&W speakers? I have heard that they are supposed to put out pretty good sound. I haven't heard the small ones in the Nautilus line, but the ones below that (can't remember the name right now) sounded good to me. Then again, I'm not nearly the audiophile that many on here seem to be.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 10:33 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Ron: I was referring the much more traditional (and I reckon less stealthy) Haydns. They costs a lot less than the Weberns and come in a beautiful wood finish. Those smallish Vandersteens would also be an interesting direction to consider... again, a larger box than the Weberns, but beautiful sounding with a Vandie sub
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:29 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

RickMTB Rich F:I m looking to stay around the $3000 area for a set of 5. Give or take a few $100.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:24 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Rich F: see my reply to Rick with link on the Rockets.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:23 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Rich F: Your son auditioned the Viennas to me a month ago. If tweeter would drop the pice about 25% I would love to pick them up but it is a business and they have certain margins they want to mantain. I can understand that.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:20 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

RickMTB: Ooops here is the link to the speakers.\\\


http://www.tweeter.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1203310&cp=&searchId=93435&brandId=93435&parentPage=search
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 10:19 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

RickMTB: I did look and listen to these. Theu use the tweeters from their top model. The onnly problem was a 5 speaker system was higher than the Rockets or M&Ks and the finish comes only in silver.

With that said the highs had a nice sweet sound and in general a nice laid back presentation. Made me think a bit of the Vandys. The real problem is that they only come in the siver fiish which I thought may be distracting when mountes below or beside the FP screen.

If I could find a better price I would consider building a thin frame box under the screen open on all sides and covered with black speaker cloth. That would be nice and stealth.

Anyone know where to by the VAs at a good price?
BAGMAN ( 209.26.21.192 ) at 10:05 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
EDGE OF THE SEAT

Wild Bill & T-Man: Interesting......so far so good!!
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:58 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Ron: and Rich... my novice experience with small speakers (own the Mirage AVS500, but I suspect its also true with more expensive tiny speakers) is that at some point physics takes over and they just sound small. Even the Gallos (and I think GAR has heard those) are more amazing from a "size and packaging view" than a out and out sound I am afraid.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:58 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Rich F: Many differnt sizes.

http://www.av123.com/products_category.php?section=speakers
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.164 ) at 9:55 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Rich F: and Ron... how small are you trying to go? I think Vienna Acoustic Hadyns are great sounding small speakers. Plus you can pair them with a REL sub. I also know that folks rave about the Reynaud Twin speakers (another small bookshelf speaker).
Rich F ( 68.98.127.90 ) at 9:32 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

Ron: How stealthy are the Rockets. I also am in the market for a new speaker set. Are they bookshelf size?
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:19 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

BC: If you would be willing to do a demo that would be fantastic. Since you already have the M&Ks you would be able to give me a idea how they are voiced and how the dispersion is compared to the M$Ks.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 9:07 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

BC: Mail your way.
Ron ( 24.167.69.128 ) at 8:55 PM EST Friday, January 3, 2003
Speakers

BC: Phone call on the way.
RickMTB ( 24.175.71.16