Archive from 01-27-2001
Gar ( 169.207.192.14 ) at 3:57 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Job Question?
Joe:Your not mistaken there are too many of us in my trade. We have 5000 thousand mass market reps alone in the US. This is two divisions meeting for a new drug launch. I wish there would be other companies there.
JBC ( 207.164.221.88 ) at 3:28 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Ron H: I am going to call the supplier and will get back to you -- sh^t.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.180 ) at 2:48 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC: I think we both need to forget about the project. No package to me and your package goes back.
T-Man ( 209.114.157.59 ) at 2:43 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Access Card Update
cai: No kidding. I wonder how many real/legit customers like me got zapped. At $39.99 a pop, that’s a real pisser. As an aside, when I was dickering with the Directv supervisor, out of the blue I asked her if she was familiar with electronic countermeasures. After a notable pause, she replied that she was unfamiliar with that term. A few seconds later she agreed to give me a free card.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 2:23 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Access Card Update
T-Man: It was done on purpose. From the Washington Times:
"DirectTV, the satellite pay TV company, used its satellites Sunday to zap "signal pirates who use counterfeit technology to watch unauthorized programming. "We took countermeasures to black out unauthorized users," a DirectTV spokesman said. "I can't tell you exactly how it works, but it does work."
In the process they managed to "zap" several real customers. Not very nice.
Joe ( 205.188.195.51 ) at 2:00 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Job Question?
Gar: My mistake, I thought it was a bunch of different people in your trade.
Job hunting is moving to the top of my list. This morning I got a haircut. The first in a year, won't my wife be surprised.
Joe ( 205.188.195.51 ) at 1:57 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Todays Funny
The Lone Ranger and Tonto are camping in the desert, set up their tent, and
are asleep.
Some hours later, The Lone Ranger wakes his faithful friend.
"Tonto, look up at the sky and tell me what you see."
Tonto replies, "Me see millions of stars."
"What does that tell you?" ask The Lone Ranger.
Tonto ponders for a minute.
"Astronomically speaking, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies
and potentially billions of planets.
Astrologically, it tells me that Saturn is in Leo. Time wise, it appears to
be approximately a quarter past three.
Theologically, it's evident the Lord is all powerful and we are small and
insignificant.Meteorologically, it seems we will have a beautiful day
tomorrow. What it tell you, Kemo Sabi?"
The Lone Ranger is silent for a moment, then speaks.
"Tonto, you Dumb Ass, someone has stolen our tent.
T-Man ( 209.114.157.59 ) at 1:47 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Access Card Update
cai: Why were they zapping cards? Was it accidental or intentional?
JBC ( 207.164.221.91 ) at 1:30 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
WildBill: Yes, it was more information than I really needed, but helpful nonetheless. Hope you heal quickly!!
Wild Bill ( 63.26.72.1 ) at 1:21 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
cai: See the previous post for a description of how my injury occurred. I'm in the camp that DTS is different than Dolby Digital but I don't really think it is better. In the past DTS was mixed differently so a true A/B is not accurate because they weren't mixed to the same levels. JMHO, of course. I haven't checked out the DVD from CES yet. I built a HTPC for JohnO and that and getting jobs for my new business have been keeping my schedule full. Thanks again for the CES DVD. 
Wild Bill ( 63.26.72.1 ) at 1:18 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gasgeek: I hear you about leaving athletics to the younguns. I was coaching basketball when the injury occured. All I did was demonstrate how to get a rebound. I'm 6'2" and the rim was set at 8'. So I wasn't exactly skying for the ball. My injury is a complete rupture also and I have been having some problems with swelling but it is not so bad that I can't get around a bit. Thanks for the kind thoughts.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 1:11 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Wild Bill: Did you get a chance to view the DVD and what are your comments? Have you noticed a marked improvement in sound quality when using DTS material versus Dolby Digital? If your Jurassic Park DVDs are not DTS, we could do an A/B comparison using my DTS ones.
Also, how did you wreck your Achilles tendon? What movement were you doing when it happened? Like the rest of you, I too hobble along with my heel spurs. Those things are nasty and persevering.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:09 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Wild Bill: I knew that you were injured, but missed the reason as I guess it happened around the last archive. Sorry to hear of your predicament. I completely ruptured my achilles tendon in a pick up basketball game after work with some co-workers 8 years ago. It happened in the second game after we'd kicked the young whippersnapper's butts. It sucked. After surgery I was basically flat on my back for 2 months because every time I put my leg down it would swell. My doctor wouldn't even consider a walking cast of any kind, but I did get out of the second cast in about 10 weeks. I rehabilitated myself for about a month and then did two months of light duty at work. The good news is it's as good as new, but I do stretch the crap out of it before any kind of workout now. (I have given up on basketball too.) I still work out vigorously, but after two back surgeries, a ruptured achilles tendon and heart bypass surgery, the strenuous contact sports are now left to the younguns.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:03 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Uncles Stereo
Derb: For what it's worth, RGB and I both bought the Toshiba 9000 DVD player from Uncles about a year and a half ago. I was a little skeptical because of some reports, but I have to say, we both received excellent service, got a good price and they arrrived on time and double boxed.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:01 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Kieran: Good Morning Tall Northern California Dude. Good to hear from you. I've been following your adventures with Curtis. By the way, no big deal, but I'm Rick. RGB is Ron.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 12:59 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
EAD vs. Elite
Good Morning all: Tried to get on last night from home. Got on, typed a message and then it appears Earthlink went down. Anyway. Score now stands at Video 7 - Audio 2. I was leaning heavily toward the PRO-510 and you guys confirmed it. If we can work out any unforseen problems, I will get the TV. This is a very nice problem to solve. If I don't get the TV, I will have to settle for a AAA rated pre/pro that I have lusted after for three years. 
Gar ( 169.207.193.158 ) at 12:18 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Wild Bill/JBC/Big Al: I hope you guys recover fast and feel better soon.
Gar ( 169.207.193.158 ) at 12:17 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC: thanks for the info, I owe you one..... Big time.
Gar ( 169.207.193.158 ) at 12:16 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Job Question?
Joe: That won't happen. It is a launch meeting for a new drug. So it will be all the same employees from the same divisions. Plus they won't let you switch jobs in the middle of a launch. I have a recruiters calling here about 4 times a day now so something will happen fast. Looking for a specialty position, more money and less of a headache from big Pharma.
Wild Bill ( 172.148.23.39 ) at 12:15 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC: Which one? I had a right ankle reconstruction 4 years ago. Three weeks in a cast, an additional 6 weeks in a walking boot (very uncomfortable) and 2 months of rehab. My calf muscle had complete atrophy.
A year ago in November I had my right knee scoped. I was down for a day and spent 2 or 3 weeks doing stretching and strengthening. When I was in high school I tore up my right knee on a training run. That was a long and ardous process but medicine and rehab in the 70's was not what it is today.
Of course, now I have my trashed left achilles tendon and this will be the longest recovery of all. I got a new cast on Wednesday and the doctor put a heel on my new cast and I'm now on one crutch for the next 4 weeks. I have to put weight on the heel only. If I try to "roll" my left foot I get intense pain. So I walk by moving my left left and crutch about 2 feet forward and then I bring my right leg even with my left. I'm not a very fast walker right now. LOL. In four weeks I'll either get a new cast for another 2 weeks and then a walking boot for 6-8 or I'll go straight into a walking boot for 6-8 weeks. Then, sometime in April or May, I'll begin rehab.
Was that more information than you really wanted to know? When I think of the injuries I've had to my legs I consider myself lucky becasue they all heal. I can't imagine having to live with something like chronic arthritis where the pain is there all day, every day with no end.
One last note. I asked the doctor what the chances are that I will pop my right achilles tendon. He said there's at least a 1 in 4 chance that I will do the same thing on the right leg. Now THAT would suck.
Cajun Mike ( 209.124.192.249 ) at 12:02 PM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Pioneer DV333
Cajun Mike: By the way, I found it online for 163 dollars.
Cajun Mike ( 209.124.192.249 ) at 11:58 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Pioneer DV333
Trying to get a frind of mine started with the basics in hometheater. It appears that the Pioneer DV333 DVD player is the best value under 250 or 300 bucks. Has anyone had any experience with this unit?
Kieran ( 63.253.227.69 ) at 11:44 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Anamorphic
ScottVeirs: Definition depends on if you're talking about anamorphic DVD or anamorphic film. For film, cai's definition is basically correct. For DVD, it's a lot more complicated. One point is that a film does not have to be filmed anamorphically to be mastered as an anamorphic DVD. It's a totally different process. I could make a VERY long post about anamorphic film and dvd, but I have to get to class now (supposed to be there 40 minutes ago.) Maybe someone else will fill you in. If not, I'll be back tonight around 5pm.
Actually, Re. anamorphic dvd... go to www.thedigitalbits.com They've got a great primer on anamorphic dvd.
JBC ( 207.164.221.153 ) at 11:42 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
WIld Bill: Thanks. To date I have lived a charmed life in that I was (and less so now) a real athlete -- competed on the national freestyle ski team, played junior A hockey, bike a lot, etc. and never ever had an injury requiring surgery. The worst thing that ever happened was a separated shourlder. Now this -- from a treadmill -- ugh!!
As an aside, how long was your recovery period and how painful was the process?
Wild Bill ( 172.148.23.39 ) at 11:37 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC: Good luck with your knee. I know EXACTLY what you will be going through. 
JBC ( 207.164.221.153 ) at 11:28 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Ron H: Well, I need toi send a soemwhat cryptic message as my office e-mail is down and the office firewall prevents me from using my home e-mail so here goes.... here we are nearly a week later and no word from out mutual friend. Any thoughts on this?
Wild Bill ( 172.148.23.39 ) at 11:25 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
RickMTB: The biggest thing I hear over and over about Marantz is that the equipment sounds good. I've seen knocks on power ratings, etc. but when it comes to sound everyone seems to agree.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 11:14 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Good Lord...
Kieran: This is absolutely nothing new. These "colleges" have been around for decades. Good professional recruiters and employment managers keep a list of accredited schools, by degree majors, which they are not shy to pull out in front of you and ask why the one on your resume is not on their list. I have somewhat of a problem, New York University does not have an engineering curriculum anymore. So, when people try to check whether I went to a accredited school NYU does not come -up for engineering. Well my experience and accomplishments are my strong points anyway. Maybe that is why I am still selling hotdogs and t-shirts on a corner stand.
Joe ( 205.188.198.161 ) at 11:04 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Job Question?
Gar: Go to the conferance it might lead you to a new job connection.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 11:02 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Anamorphic
ScottVeirs: As far as I know this is just a combination of lenses. An anamorphic lense is used when shooting a movie and an anmorphic lens is used at the projector to uncompress the image that was compressed during shooting. Maybe this answer is too simplistic and someone has a more technical one.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 10:58 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
No LFE in DVD Audio
One way out of this is to have a apeaker line out connected to your subwoofer. Certain subwoofers, REL for one, have dual connections, one the regular sub connection from the receiver/pre/pro and another one from a speaker line out. This way bass is always routed to the sub, whether when playing music, stereo, 5.1, or DVD audio.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 10:51 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Access Card Update
T-Man: Good thing I read your post first thing this morning. It has been all over the news in DC, that DirectTv has zapped about 200,000 cards during the last week. I am glad things worked out for you.
JBC ( 207.164.221.112 ) at 10:44 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gar:Three quick points (assuming that you will get a newe job and want to make a point out of this)...
1. Accept and offer of employment elsewhere first;
2. Immediately after accepting the new offer and before resigning seek the advice of an employment/labour lawyer to consider your options/recourse (i.e. constructive dismissal, fustration of contract, etc.)and what you should or should not sign on termination (i.e. do not sign a waiver of liability); and
3. Go after them!
The order outlined above is key.
reading and responding to your posts so.... you owe me $137.50. The point I am trying to make is that professional can eat up a great deal of the financial gain. Use your head and not your heart in deciding to seek recourse as Novartis can afford to spend their way out of this and you can't. Take from a professional who sees this all the time.
Gar ( 169.207.194.121 ) at 10:24 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Ron H : I got it in writing, that is the bummer of this whole thing.
Mic ( 166.68.134.175 ) at 10:21 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
6 channel DVD Audio
Big Al: I for one would not want the mixer to pick a crossover and send all bass info to the .1 channel on DVD audio. give me 5 full range channels and no lfe or 6th channel which unlike DVD video is a full range channel. I don't want to make up for some bad hardware with bad software. The DVD audio players with only pass analog for DVD-A should handle the BM, another bad hardware design. Some day soon Meridian will handle DVD audio thru a digital connection and their bass management will handle it. I for one will not jump on DVD Audio until the digital interface between the DVD audio player and pre/pro/reciever is in place.
ScottVeirs ( 64.0.251.176 ) at 9:39 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Anamorphic
Can anyone give me the definition? I thought I knew what it was but I think im wrong.
thanks
Ron H ( 63.61.205.97 ) at 8:51 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC: Yikes!!!!
Ron H ( 63.61.205.97 ) at 8:48 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
M-L
Derb: Are you being a temptress?
Ron H ( 63.61.205.97 ) at 8:45 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gar: Most larger companies put in writing your compensation package. I would never work for someone who would not. Any time our bonus program is revised or a salery change happens, even a raise, we recieve the infoi in writing. upon hiring a new employee the job offer and the salary and any other special compensation and benifits are sent in writing. This both protects you and the company.
If you do change jobs do request in writing the job offer, the salary and bonus plan, and any other benifits such as company autos, stock option programs etc.
I am sorry to hear that you have been not fairly trated. It can be quite frustrating.
I do have one question. If you worked for the largest drug company and two others merged and becam one largwer company would your company now be the second largest not the third?
JBC ( 207.164.221.225 ) at 8:45 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Tony C: I hear you buddy!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:35 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC: It's a bitch getting old, isn't it?
I pulled a groin muscle shoveling snow around Christmas. It's just now getting better.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:32 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gar: I would have given the same advice as JBC. Only I don't get paid for that!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:18 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Access Card Update
T-Man: THat ECM that they just did should pretty much wipe out any illegal cards left out there. Just fried them. The only way they "may" be fixed is by surgury under a microscope to cut away the re-write portion. Unless some people use a A/B switch to protect their cards from ECMs
But DTV is smart enough to send an ECM out during the Suprano's or other hot show. Glad you got your problem taken care of. If you're a subsriber and current, they should hold all the liability. No way you should pay for their hunting out illegal cards.
CuRTis I was in the Admirals Club in San Juan airport and the club had two DTV receivers going. I checked both and I could have walked out with both cards. It was only 6:30AM. No one else there. I check every one I see for sport. Habit I guess. Like looking in a pay phone for change.
T-Man ( 24.48.225.13 ) at 7:06 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Access Card Update
Thanks to those who gave input on my bad/fried access card problem. I just got off the phone with Directv (amazing how fast you can get ahold of them at 7:00am) asked for a supervisor, and after some complaining on my part and blustering about nothing on their part, a new and free access card is on its way! Of course, the "stupervisor" was quick to remind me that next time I would have to pay for it. Yeah, right!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:10 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Well guys what a sh&t day....
1. My wife kept me up all night last night becasueshe is on call.
2. Go to the orthopedic surgeon today --- no sports for me for 4 months. I have ripped my knee to crap and it will be 4 months between now and full recovery.
3. Here itis 4:00 AM and I have yet to go to sleep for yesterday morning because I just finished typing a report and guess what -- Word just died.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 3:34 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Welcome to the popcorn and Kieran show...
Make that just the popcorn show. 
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 3:12 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Welcom to the popcorn and Kieran show...
Kieran: Hey, how's the laptop doing?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 3:09 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Good Lord...
Kieran: Yep, I get those every month or so... along with lots of other spam (it increased dramatically about the time I became an admin here and we got on the search engines... go fig) I just trash and ignore it... the electrons are recycleable And YES, it is an oxymoron. And the sender must be a moron. Couldn't one just make up the name of a college and print up a frilly-looking page on a laser printer, and then use some sort of cheapo embosser bought at a office supply store to get the same effect?
Kieran ( 63.253.6.186 ) at 3:05 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
13 Days...
Just watched this movie. Not bad. Why Kevin Costner EVER attempts an accent of ANY sort is beyond me. The only thing that really bugged me about this movie was his lame attempt at a Bostonian/Mass accent. Even the guy who played JFK didn't try as hard as Costner at the accent, and we ALL are familiar with JFK's voice. (or at least Mayor Quimby's version of it!!!)
I didn't live through this portion of our history, and I'm ashamed to say, I'm not very familiar with the particulars of it. But going into the movie having read some articles about the film which pointed out its' historical inaccuracies, I think over all it was a good presentation. I'm sure most won't agree with that, but I was engrossed by it, so it at least was well done to some extent.
Picture quality was okay, 1.85:1, sound was decent, with minimal surround useage, save for the few jet flyovers, etc.
Kieran ( 63.253.6.186 ) at 2:59 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
"prestigious non-accredited universities" Isn't that an oxymoron?
Kieran ( 63.253.6.186 ) at 2:57 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Good Lord...
Just got this spam in my inbox.... Do people really do this sort of thing?
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My God... I mean really. Sorry for posting this crap, but it just had me so dumbfounded... who would be stupid enough to try to make a bussiness out of this, and who would be stupid enough to buy into it? I didn't know whether to laugh out loud, or puke!
Rich ( 205.188.193.163 ) at 2:26 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gasgeek, Elite is so Koool
Rich ( 205.188.193.163 ) at 2:24 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Opinions please
Gasgeek: Get The Elite PRO-510!!!! It's AWESOME!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 2:17 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Well actually "Still can't figure out" there levels program.
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 2:16 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC: I kind of figured that out, about the autonomy part. Still can't figure it out, but what goes around comes around. I will leave after I find another job and then they will have to spend another $150 grand on someone else on training. It is ironic, they give me a book at my last meeting called the "Oz princple"(The Bitch less book) but upper level managment should have read it first
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 2:07 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gar: I am on thin ice hear as I know which company your work for and.....(figure this part out)....
In any event, what I can say is that the compensation policy was not designed by my firm (at least I do not think it was) and that your company provides a great deal of autonomy to the various divisions and regions.
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 2:02 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Come to think of it, I wasn't even in the territory till Jan. 2000. I was in training till then. Sept.1999 till December 1999 we were in training, now I am even more pissed! 
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 1:47 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Denon 2800 DVD Player
On a lighter note, did anyone see this unit at the show? Just wondering how good this unit is?
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 1:41 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
JBC, lets just say they where the largest Pharmacuetical company in the World till Glaxo and Smith-Kline just merged. Now we are the 3rd largest, so that being said there full of bullshit, I think this happened on a District level and not a national one. I was told at training 1,2,3 and by my manager that the first level increase is a given with in your first year. But they decided to use sales into the first level increase and they didn't before because it is your first year at the job estabilishing territories etc.. So they decided to use Dec of 1999 and August of 2000. If your sales where higher in August of 2000 you got the raise and levels increase and if they weren't you didn't get it. I am talking about only 2 months out of a year they compared. Now how F"ing" dumb is that.
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 1:34 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Wow, did I hit the jackpot! Thanks for the info JBC. Well lets just say that I called Human Resources and they had no clue, they stated I should have gotten my levels increase. HR called my boss and he got pissed at me for pursuing the issue. His boss just got let go, so who knows what the truth is..
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:19 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gar Okay... time to break from typing this business plan. In case you have forgotten, I am a partner in a global human resource consulting firm (which includes the hiring and firing of employees). Speaking from experience, particualrly in this southern heading economy, my counsel (and it is not cheap, although I only get pennies on the dollar) is as follows:
1. Do not quit your job until you have signed on the dotted line at your new place of employment (unless you think you can sue them for constructive dismissal or frustration of contract); and
2. Go to the conference.
One will never get dumped on for protecting their own ass -- remember, the company did the same to you when they changed they compensation structure without advance or other notice.
I will be back at 2:00 AM EST.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:19 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Gar} Okay... time to break from typing this business plan. In case you have forgotten, I am a partner in a global human resource consulting firm (which includes the hiring and firing of employees). Speaking from experience, particualrly in this southern heading economy, my counsel (and it is not cheap, although I only get pennies on the dollar) is as follows:
1. Do not quit your job until you have signed on the dotted line at your new place of employment (unless you think you can sue them for constructive dismissal or frustration of contract); and
2. Go to the conference.
One will never get dumped on for protecting their own ass -- remember, the company did the same to you when they changed they compensation structure without advance or other notice.
I will be back at 2:00 AM EST.
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 1:10 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Job Question?
I am working for a major Pharmaceutical company and about 12 reps in the State of WI, including me just got the shaft about a month ago. Well we didn't get fired but we were supposed to get a levels increase and a 8% pay increase based on there levels program. Well they decided to change the levels program a month before they gave out these bonuses and level increases, but ironically they forgot to tell anybody. So, I have been majorly pissed and my boss isn't doing anything. So I have been looking for another job. Here is the question, sorry for being long winded The question is I am thinking about quiting like ASAP. But I don't technically have another job lined up, but I am close and it should only take me a few weeks. I am about 75% sure I will get this new specialty job soon, more money and people that seem to care. The question finally! I am supposed to go to Dallas on Sat. for a new Drug launch, but I don't feel right about going.... All opinions welcome from my HT buds!!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 1:02 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
Uncle's Stereo
Derb: Fisher Price hahahahah. Too funky of colors. Get the Sony S-360.
You can get them for around $220.00 new. I have one in my bedroom and it works great. The PS2 has about the same video as the S-360. But the S-360 menu is much better.
Gar ( 169.207.194.230 ) at 12:59 AM EST Friday, January 26, 2001
BIG AL: Used to work in a rehab center in College. Was going to school orginally for PT, but was put on the waiting list. So I graduated in Public Health with a Minor in Biology. The place I worked at was Cybex fitness rehab center, which is now making fitness equipment. Still have the device they gave me for my old hockey injury, put it behind the door attach device to neck, lay down and push with your feet slowly and it stretches the whole neck and spine out. So far it has worked eveytime.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:52 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
An "HTOC" leather bike jacket??!! Koool!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:51 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gasgeek; You've got a nice TV now, there's still limited HD, and they haven't finalized things yet. The TVs a demo, and I'd hesitate at that, even if it's limited. Fingerprints, scratches, and so on can ruin things. To top it off, I'm a sound guy. I'd go for the EAD. YMMV
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:45 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Of course this was offset by meals like chicken stew and polenta, or sompanale of which I could eat enough to feed 2 large families! Hence the BIG AL. 
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:41 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Since both pairs of my grandparents came from the old country, I was raised on ethnic style food. I've eaten WAY too many dishes that I can't pronounce, or even want to know what was in them! Things like keishka (blood sausage), head cheese (even worse than it sounds), rocky mountain oysters (you don't want to know), and things made from chicken necks, pig snouts, cow tongue, and so on. Talk about traumatising a kid. "What's for dinner mom?" "Something new! You'll love it!" "What's in it?" "Never mind, just taste it! You'll love it!" 
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.127 ) at 11:34 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
BIG AL: If I am correct, My Denon AVR-3200, with speakers set as "small" (which I have them), the 6 channel inputs will route the low bass in the 5 mains to the sub anyway. (Not that I have DVD-Audio... just commenting on the technical aspect)
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:32 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gar; It's interesting that many years ago I had a back injury that was cured completely with temporary traction. A machine stretches then releases your back every 10 seconds, slowly increasing the amount of stretch to a prescribed amount. Then it works it's way down again, totalling about 10 minutes. They tried it with this injury, and afterward the pain was so intense, they had to wheel me to my car. I crawled into my house from my car, and took enough pain pills to put me to sleep. I was sure I'd wake up paralyzed.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:25 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
I read an article saying there's a problem with DVD audio being run through the 6 analog inputs on receivers and pre/pros. Since there's no LFE channel info on the DVD audio discs, and there's no bass management in the processors for the 6 inputs, anyone with smaller speakers will have very little bass (no sub action). I would hope the music industry pays attention to this problem, and starts mixing in a LFE channel, or I forsee a quick death for DVD Audio!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:19 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
CuRTis; E-Mail headed your way!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.50 ) at 11:16 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Derb; If you don't mind used, or B-stock, Stereo Traders is very reliable, and great deals. www.tsto.com
Derb ( 199.174.1.74 ) at 10:40 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Uncle's Stereo
Kieran:Gar: Thanx for the lead on Oade Brothers, I'll check them out.
Looking for a cheap DVD player until they can figure out a way to give me a digital output for DVD Audio/Univ.Player/SACD. I thought about getting the PS2 but for 300.00 bucks and what little time and enjoyment I would get from the games, I have decided to get a cheap DVD player. I can't wait any longer and I need to put my system through some heavy 5.1 work out. Only problem is the cheap FisherPrice plastic thing-a-ma-jig that I'll end up getting will stand out like a sour thumb. Ohhh well I'll retire it to the master bed room at a latter date.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.117 ) at 9:52 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Wild Bill: Thanks for the first hand report. Having brought my Vandersteens back down I again can easily tell the difference between how they soundthrough the Yamaha 793 (85wtsx5) and the B&K ST140 100x2. It isn't just the ability to play loud... its more the ability to play complex music and still differentiate between voices and music. Plus its the sense of air between things. Add to that the 793 was just before DTS, and the new breed of receivers and pre/pros seem to have other goodies.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:46 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gasgeek: The Joe Cocker CDs are great. Only problem is that I can not wrestle them free from Mrs. JBC!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.135 ) at 9:32 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Uncle's Stereo
Kieran: Ditto on that. Oade Brothers is a very good place. Also Try Onecall, depends on what your looking for.
Kieran ( 63.253.7.241 ) at 9:17 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Such a Deal.
CuRTis: email coming your way...
Kieran ( 63.253.7.241 ) at 9:17 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Uncle's Stereo
Derb: Try Oade Brothers instead.
Derb ( 199.174.5.246 ) at 8:53 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Bad Deal
Gar: Thanx, I'll stay clear of Uncle Bad Deal
Gar ( 169.207.194.47 ) at 8:34 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Derb, I wouldn't I heard there bad to deal with.
Gar ( 169.207.194.47 ) at 8:34 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
M-L
Derb: Whoa, used to own a pair of those(Re-Quests).... Nice speaker. The Prodigy is better but not at $10 grand.
Derb ( 199.174.5.246 ) at 8:34 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Uncle's Stereo
All: Has anyone bought anything from these guys, and did it work out OK?
Gar ( 169.207.194.47 ) at 8:18 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Wild Bill: Well hell if it is free, why does he need our opinion? That easy! Take it! Either one! The Pioneer TV you can always use that in another room, like your bedroom.
Derb ( 199.174.5.246 ) at 8:00 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
M-L
RonH: I see an add in the the Houston Chronicle in the classifieds for Martin-Logan Re-Quests $3150
281-933-5004
Wild Bill ( 63.44.248.92 ) at 7:40 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gar: I'm not sure you understand Gasgeek's position. He is not looking to BUY a pre-pre. He can get a FREE EAD if he wants it or a free Pioneer 510. Big difference.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.248.92 ) at 7:37 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DTC-100
AVB: Nice buy. Would you give me a heads up if you hear of a similar deal? TIA.
Kieran ( 63.253.7.23 ) at 7:36 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gasgeek: Hiya Ron! Long time... Absolutely get the 510. There are lots of great pre/pros out there, you never know when you'll come across a great deal on one. You really need a 16:9 HDTV, dude! And, like you said, the EAD isn't exactly upgradeable as much as some other pre/pros. This way, you can easily wait for the new EAD and see what it does, and not put your buddy into financial binds. win/win.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.248.92 ) at 7:33 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
RickMTB: I have a Marantz SR-19 and wouldn't trade it for anything in its' price range. A very flexible receiver. I take power specs (and tests) with a grain of salt. The SR-19 will drive my B&W speakers beyond levels that I would listen at and there doesn't appear to be any strain.
trav1 ( 4.34.144.173 ) at 7:22 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gar: Its not so much that their customer service sucks, its just lacking. It seems that you can never get anyone on the phone, which is a major drawback for me. But when you do get to talk to someone it seems that you are actually talking to someone who knows what they are talking about, and not just the average customer service rep. A couple times I even spoke with one of the engineers of the unit itself trying to troubleshoot a problem. Their just small, but their products are first rate, built like a tank, and aestetically (sp?) pleasing. I know they are a small company and we shall see in the next year how they handle existing customers when it comes time to do there "new" upgrades which from what I have read on the net will be within the next 3-4 months. We all know that products become obsolete, but when the upgrade price is 3-4x as much as another pre/pro with the same options or more (7.1, es/ex, analog pass through) one starts to ponder other possibilities. I may well be alone in this, but thats just my two cents.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 7:13 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
I'm outta here. Talk to you all later.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 7:12 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Scott P; Thanks for the input. I believe were up to 5 video and 1 audio unless I interpret Gar's as a video too, and then it's 6 video and 1 audio.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 7:11 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gar: Understood, but I get the EAD for cost or free if I sell enough equipment. No chance I will be able to swing an MC-1. While I know everyone here likes the Sony. I have no interest in it at this time. EAD is a very small company that has just managed to survive, so that is another point to consider.
The choice is a PRO-510 or the Signature. No other options at this time. Remember, both are free.
bagman ( 205.188.196.27 ) at 7:09 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
BAGMAN: Just saw your post BAGMAN. See you're still with the group. Looking forward to Feb.15th. Hope everything goes OK. V-MAN
Gar ( 169.207.194.47 ) at 7:04 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gasgeek: I would go for the MC-1 Lexicon. Or the Sony TA-E-9000ES if you want to save money. Also Proceeds PAV, and Anthems new Pre/Pro that has balanced inputs and outputs. And EAD from what I have heard(Trav) etc... is that there customer services sucks, that alone would keep me away from them.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 7:01 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
CAI. Thanks for the input. However, I believe you misunderstand my intentions. I just mentioned dts as one of the advantages of having a new pre/pro, there is no emphasis on dts at all. I could care less about dts to be honest with you although it would be nice to have. I still have RGB's DVD sitting on my desk that I lost to him over whether or not dts would survive a year. I just haven't sent it to him. Bad Geek, Bad Geek! My true emphasis would be on the two channel improvements of the EAD. Even though it's a processor, it's been rated by some as one of the top stereo preamps in the world. My old Denon was AA rated and still sounds great in DD and stereo direct. Copper sheild and very good quality Burr-Brown DACs. I always want better though. It's a disease.
As far as my buddy not making enough. He screwed up even though I kept telling him that he was screwing up. He grossed $73,000 on the job and has an additional project pending for another $20,000+. There's another $150,000 job on the horizon as a result of this one. I ain't worried about his pocket. 
He is a friend though, and I appreciate what you're saying.
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 6:43 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
SonicBit - Good idea.
I'll futz with a revised version, and post it somewhere when I get a chance.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:41 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gasgeek: Something else to consider is that your friend did not do as well as he expected. He may appreciate you not putting him in a position of having to dig into his own pocket. Regardless of this goodwill gesture, I would still go with the TV. He may still give you a good break on the EAD when you are ready for it.
Rich F ( 128.121.145.5 ) at 6:35 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Superbowl
cai: You think I am counting on the Giants not showing up. I don't think we will be able to tell the difference.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:35 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gasgeek: I would go for the TV. Your emphasis on DTS may be misplaced in that although seems to be the better format, to some, you can still buy the DVDs and play them when you finally get such a decoder abled receiver. DD 5.1 is almost as good to some others. However, if you have HD in your area, you are going to watch superbowl and better quality satellite and cable signals immediately.
LET ME REPEAT THIS - YOU WILL HAVE HD INSTANTLY. Enough said.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.27 ) at 6:31 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gasgeek: Definitely video.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:16 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Thanks AVB. I value your opinion. 3 Video - 1 Audio.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 6:11 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Cytotech: That's why we've always gotten along. You know I'm a two channel nut and I'm craving that extra 5%. My situation is, it will either be one or the other for quite awhile unless I unearth some other nice installs or referrals. I've been put on a limited budget by MrsGeek. While I could probably override it, it's best to keep peace in the family.
Another factor is that MrsGeek would see and appreciate the difference and even though she has great ears I don't think she would hear or at least appreciate the audio difference. She was also heavily involved in securing this deal so that must be factored.
2 video, 1 audio
AVB ( 64.41.32.137 ) at 6:08 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gasgeek: Go for the video, prepros can always be bought and you'll still only get thet 5% improvement but HDTV is 100% improvement NOW.
Joe ( 205.188.199.48 ) at 6:07 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
I's= It's
Joe ( 205.188.199.48 ) at 6:07 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Moved in
I am back into my computer room I's nice getting my dinning room table back. Now in the morning I just have to hang my crown molding and this room is done.
AVB ( 64.41.32.137 ) at 6:04 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DTC-100
I will be getting a 2 month old DTC100 for $330 on Saturday. Now all I have to do is hope I can get something OTA where I live or I'll be forced to put up that 50' tower in the back yard.
AVB ( 64.41.32.137 ) at 6:01 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Sony HDTV set top box
Darian: The Sony is $699 for just the box on preorder from Orbit. www.orbitsat.com
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:59 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
JBC: I live just south of LA. I live in an apartment at the beach in Redondo Beach. While difficult, I have the ability to have an OTA antennae installed and I should have a pretty good line of sight at Mt. Wilson where the local broadcaster's have their antennaes. I also have been holding off getting a satellite making excuses that I would wait until I got HD. I figure about $750 - $1000 will get me HD'd. Moving the 510 up two flights of stairs is a discussion, but I have already called a local moving outfit and gotten an estimate. Got the Tosh upstairs by myself with a little help from my friends, but I'm too damn old to keep doing that $#)+.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.194 ) at 5:55 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gasgeek: I'd go for the EAD. But then, I always have liked being a bit of a dissident.
I agree that the impact of video is greater(to me) than the audio, but I also would like having an ultra-top-of-the-line piece like the EAD. There is always time for a RP(or FPTV!) later. Of course, I have no idea what your personal situation is.
My $.02(which probably isn't even worth that much!)
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:50 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
The votes roll in. That's 2 for the 510. Thanks Bagman and JBC. Anyone else? By the way JBC, I haven't talked to you for awhile. Did you ever get the Joe Cocker DVD and how did you like the Night Calls CD?
JBC ( 207.164.221.171 ) at 5:47 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gasgeek: I vote for the RPTV, especially if HDTV is available in your are as the impact from video is greater than the impact from audio.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.35 ) at 5:46 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
Gasgeek: Get the Pro-510,you want it and you'll feel good about the whole situation.
Good evening all.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:41 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions please
As some of you may recall, I bird dogged a job for my buddy the dealer at my wife's work. My fee is supposed to be an EAD TheaterMaster Signature Pre/Pro. He ran into a few problems on the job and didn't make as much as he originally planned, but he will still get me the Signature if I want it.
This will require him to come out of pocket at a time when his cash flow is down. He mentioned the other night that I needed a Pioneer Elite PRO-510 in my house. (He knows that I covet it) He has one on his floor that a customer ordered and then disappeared on so he's paid for it. He has been using it for a demo for about 4 months, although this is a small showroom and the tv isn't on all the time like at The Good Guys or Ken Cranes. It has very low hours on it.
The dilema. As many of you may remember, I have a Denon AVP-8000 Pre/Pro. It still sounds wonderful, but it is getting a little dated. No dts, limited bass management. Do I upgrade to a state of the art AAA rated pre/pro which would be maybe a 5-10% sound improvement (yes, I would have dts), or do I go for a state of the art HD ready, RPTV to replace my 50" Toshiba. The EAD's are scheduled for a remake in March and the current Signature, except for software, is really not all that expandable but sounds incredible, especially in two channel.
I have a pretty good idea of what I'll do, but I value everyone's opinion in here and I'm interested in what you would do.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 5:24 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Rick MTB: I have installed an SR-18 and have played around a little with the SR-19. The 18 is truly a class piece. Very clean and ballsy. I set it up with some Jamo Concert 8s, Concert center and Jamo dipole surrounds. Used a little Velodyne HGS-10 for the sub. A Pioneer 05 DVD and a Pro-610 TV. That system cooked. Clean and clear no matter how loud. I used the Multi-room function with a three zone Sonance out and it worked flawlessly. I have heard the 19 used with NHT 2.9's, 2.5i's, VT-2's and several Tannoy models. I'm not sure how it actually spec's out in reality, but there was plenty of juice to drive any speakers that I have heard attached to them. I don't think Marantz plays with the numbers anymore than any other manufacturer, but I could be very wrong.
I have never been around any HK products except for some lower end receivers so I don't have any comments about them. I would put the Marantz SR-18 in the same league as the Denon 5700 - 5800's. I installed a 5700 for a friend not too long ago and was very impressed. A different sound than the Marantz, but both are great. IMHO, the Denon's are a little more inclined to have the "Oh My Gawd" newest technical stuff and that is great. They seem to have a new model out everytime Rich turns around. I just set up one set of rear direct speakers with the 5700 and so couldn't comment on the alternate rear speaker configurations. Very nice receiver.
Again, my experience with the Marantz 18 and 19 are that they are just straight ahead, no nonsense, easy to use, good sounding, good quality, solid pieces. I am setting up a system for a life long friend this spring that will be based around one of these depending on what he wants to spend. The speakers will be NHT 2.9's, Audio Center 2, and Sonance Inwall dipole surrounds. He and his wife both loved the VT-3's, but their dedicated theater room isn't quite big enough. He has opted for the Pro-710 over a DLP projector.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 4:52 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Gasgeek: Speaking of Marantz, how is the SR-19? I have heard that it is pretty "creative" in its specsmanship on power. How would you compare it to something from Denon or H&K?
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 4:43 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
HTOC Stuff!!!
BYork: The only thing I would add to the image is the URL.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 3:54 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
cai: My mother used to serve us a special Danish dish pronounced "Bixematha". Cubed meat, usually a leftover pork or beef roast, onions, potatoes, worstershire sauce and apples all fried together in an iron pan. Later I find out "Bixematha" means leftovers in Danish!
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 3:38 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
prince: Speaking about SA foods and drinks, one of my ex-girlfriends used to make something called "tibule?". It is a baked dish with meat, vegetables, and potatos. I have also recently been taken to dousing pound cake with some Van Der Hum that I got several decades ago. It is still very good.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 3:30 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Darian: Thanks, I found a few mentions of it now. The list is like $1,200 and seems to be selling for $750.
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 3:20 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Curtis/Popcorn, et. al -
Sorry for being out-of-pocket, and not answering more quickly. It's that thing work again...UGH.
RE: the cafepress site...we could jsut use the image Fernando created, if everyone thinks that's a good idea. My thought is to do it at cost, since I suspect only HTOC members wuold care to get anything, and we've already paid for the site (well, you did, didn't you...?)
Curtis - what day are you thinking to try and get together? I have a couple of weekends coming up in Feb. that are still free......
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 3:19 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
SAT-HD 100 Is the unit model number.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 3:08 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
JohnO: yes there is a DSS HDTV box from Sony. It was supposed to price out to about $800 and be available in the next month. Check Sony's Press release section.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 3:01 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Anyone hear of a DirecTV receiver from Sony that does HDTV? A friend of mine swears she is getting one, that Audio Buys talked her out of a DTC100 "because it only works with RCA TVs". Gee, where have I heard that before? She says it costs $499, so the price is about right for HDTV. Couldn't find anything on Sony website.
Kieran ( 63.36.207.124 ) at 2:59 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
firmware downloaded
CuRTis: You really should get an HDTV larger than the 19" FD Trinitron
Oh really???? Like maybe a 21"??? Gee... do you know anybody who's got one of those for sale at a good price? Actually, even if you do decide to let my sis buy that one, I think I may be in the market for another one too. I've been thinking a lot during this class I'm taking about having some engineering software at home so I might be able to do some consulting work on the side. (and Unreal would look great on it, too!)
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.27 ) at 2:15 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
POPCORN and BYORK
ScottVeirs: I was talking about desiging the image that would go on the shirt....
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 2:11 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
CuRTis: Apparently, 65" is not big enough for him. Does he drive a monster truck by any chance?
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 2:09 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
Joe: So that I can talk him INTO buying my Tosh TW65! Big help you guys are!!
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 1:51 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
CuRTis: Also, take a look at www.keohi.com/keohihdtv/usefulinfo.html and click on the Mits logo and www.hometheaterspot.com and go to the forum and acces the Mits section.
Joe ( 152.163.195.192 ) at 1:46 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
C
Oh, I see I responed before reading the entire forum.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 1:46 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Good Morning gang. Don't get a chance to get on here much anymore with the new job etc. Always nice to catch up and see familiar names however. I thought I'd give an update on my buddy and his new receiver that I mentioned the other day.
I moved him up in price range (kicking and screaming I might add), but he is a happy camper this morning. Smiling from ear to ear. I got him a Marantz SR-7000. This is the second one I have installed and I've got to say it is a very nice piece. It's not fancy, doesn't do EX or ES or component switching. While there are many very nice receivers in this price range, the 7000 does one thing extremely well. It sounds fantastic.
It's easy to use, massive amounts of inputs/outputs, and a quality piece. In this system it is powereing Tannoy Mx2 mains and surrounds, a small Tannoy center and a Yamaha sub. A Sony 53" big screen is the display along with the Sony 3000 DVD player I was asking questions about the other day. A Pioneer CD-R, Sony CD carousel, Panasonic VCR and an Onkyo cassette deck round out his current gear with a DSS system in the near future. Nothing high end, but the overall sound is very pleasing even with the high (supposedly 100Hz) crossover. The other system I used a 7000 in had NHT SuperOnes, SuperZeros, small center and NHT 8" Sub. Again, great sounding, very flexible piece. I know most of us on the forum have people asking our opinions about a good quality receivers etc. When they ask, they should definitely consider this one.
Gar ( 169.207.192.251 ) at 1:45 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
CuRTis: hahahaha, that is funny!! Good thing she didn't wake up. Could have been scary
Joe ( 152.163.195.192 ) at 1:42 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
CuRTis: Why are you trying to talk him out of it?
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 1:39 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
Gar: I wish to invoke my 5th ammendment rights, your honor, in order to not purger myself.
I do still think the Sony D8's are good products, it's just the proprietary thing that bugs me. A pal just bought the top-line Sony with the nightvision option. Just for fun he ran it in the master BR in the dark of his wife asleep. Amazing. Now if his wife were just a little more attractive
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 1:36 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
prince: No HD?! Oh man so sorry to hear that. If you ever get to CA you must stop by and checkout my 2 new displays.
That stew sounds exactly like something my dad used to cook up that my bro's & sis's named "Garbage Stew". He would start with meat bones as a soup base, then throw in everything from ketchup to beans & allow it to simmer for days. He then forced all of us to actually EAT the concoction! I can clearly recall my little brother holding his nose and gagging on it.
I'm sure your stew tatses much better than his - hell, anything would taste better!
Gar ( 169.207.192.251 ) at 1:26 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
BC
Thanks for the information, if I get free time I will give you a call.
Gar ( 169.207.192.251 ) at 1:26 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
CuRTis: Yup, about 8 months ago. You said for the money the Sony Digital 8 were a good buy. I bought one and it is great, I compared it to my friends new DV Sony and using the Digital 8 tapes and we had a very hard time seeing a improvement over the DV unit. But, the new Progressive Scan Canon and Sonys looks much better.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 1:04 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Darian:
Could you email me with AGE and Price and any specs that you could offer?
thanks
sdveirs@sysnetix.com
Wild Bill ( 32.101.77.139 ) at 1:02 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
prince: Potjie, eh? It was pretty good. And yes, my new neighrbor is an Afrikaaner. Boy, I hope I spelled that one right. When I get together with those guys I think they are still fighting the Boer War. haha
Wild Bill ( 32.101.77.139 ) at 1:02 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
prince: Potjie, eh? It was pretty good. And yes, my new neighrbor is an Afrikaaner. Boy, I hope I spelled that one right. When I get together with those guys I think they are still fighting the Boer War. haha
prince ( 155.239.76.207 ) at 12:47 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Kieran - Hi - yes I haven't posted for quite a while but I generally lurk every day. We just don't have the technology that you guys have, so I mostly don't have anything to contribute!! We might get HDTV in 10 or so years time !!!! I've looked on the net but can't find it anywhere.
Wild Bill - I'm glad you know what rugby is - hahahahaha - The dish you ate is spelled "potjie" It is Afrikaans for a pot - a traditional dish from a couple of hundred years ago when the settlers where discovering the country and travelled in wagons. They used to throw anything into the pot, let it cook for a couple of hours and there you go. Bit of history for you guys!!
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 12:36 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
CuRTis: BTW, Al Griffin reviewed the 55" Platinum series in Nov. 2000 Sound and Vision and gave it high marks.
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 12:34 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
CuRTis: I've been looking at the Platinum series Mits and the one you're looking is in the top of the line Diamond series. I've read reviews of the 46" and 55" Platinum. Apparently, this year's line doubler is a great improvement over previous years as it does 3:2 pulldown. A quote from Mike Wood in Nov. 2000 HT mag: "In my opinion, previous generations of Mitsubishi televisions look terrible if they haven't been professionally calibrated. The WT-46807, however, is the first that actually looks good as set by the factory." I don't know how this would translate to the Diamond series, but Mits has, apparently improved on this year's models out of the box.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 12:19 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
firmware downloaded
Kieran: Your DTC100 took the latest firmware download last night. You really should get an HDTV larger than the 19" FD Trinitron
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 12:13 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
fp
BC: he could also get an iScan Pro in the deal at that price.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 12:12 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
Gar: I did? I thought I had mentioned that I own 2 Canon DV camcorders. Did you say that you wanted the (also proprietary) Sony memory stick to use between a camcorder and something else with a Sony logo on it?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:11 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
fp
curtis- for 7 grand he could get something like an infocus 350 and a screen and have money left over!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:09 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
gar, you have mail.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 12:09 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
Geo.: Thanks. A Good Guys salesdork is trying to talk him into last years 73" model. Any opinions of that vintage? I seem to recall people talking about severe blue push and not enough service menu adjustments to kill the problem. All I could find on the mits site was what I posted. GG will sell for $7K.
I totally agree that a FP is better bang for the buck. The buyer just assumes bigger is always better. He wants to meet me at the dealer in a few hours. I'll bring VE along.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:08 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
CuRTis: thanks guys. I was looking at the canon and jvc dv units. I like the price of the sony's but think DV is where it is going. I really like the 1 megapixel units!
Gar ( 169.207.194.241 ) at 12:05 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Actually They have DV Camcoders with Progressive Scan now.. That is what I would buy....
Gar ( 169.207.194.241 ) at 12:04 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
CuRTis: Kind of ironic when you recommended the Digital 8s to me, About 6 months ago. And I doubt they will drop the line for awhile, I see the 8mm being dropped if anything. I however do like the new Canons for the money. The thing that pisses me off is now one is making a tape deck anymore to play back the 8mm/Hi8 or Digital 8 tapes. DV formats have stand alone decks but there really expensive.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:02 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
Wild Bill: good question. He says that when he turns it on and displays the mute button, the convergence is off. That makes sense that if the rastor were off, it would make the convergence look off, right?
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 12:01 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
CuRTis: I think the MSRP on that is about $10k. Any reason he would go with that size box instead of a FP? Seems that if he had the room for the RP, he'd have the room for a FP and screen. If, for some reason, he needs to go with the box, from the research I've been doing the last few days, the new Mits HD ready RP's are being reviewed very well. If I was spending that kind of cash, though, and didn't have to have a box, a FP would seem to be a no brainer.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.250.125 ) at 12:01 PM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Dallas!
Gar: 2000 thousand? Damn that is a lot of people. Just about 2 million! LOL!!
Wild Bill ( 63.44.250.125 ) at 11:59 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
BC: #2. Is the convergence really messed up or is the raster off center? The raster centering issue is known and there is now (I believe) an adjustment in the DTC100 menu system for raster centering.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 11:58 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
BC: They're both solid formats yet I worry that Sony again went against the standard with Digital8. The media is less expensive because they use the same tape shell as the older Hi8/8 series format. Should Sony decide to change or drop D8, you're dead.
Both will handle recording of a HD A/V bitstream when connected to a FireWire upgraded DTC100. I like the Canon DV camcorders for their lenses, metering and general industrial design.
Gar ( 169.207.194.241 ) at 11:54 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Dallas!
BC: If I can get free for a half of Day I will call you. My E-mail is garcom@execpc.com if you want to leave me your number. The guys I am going down want to hit the strip bars hahahahaha go figure.... If I stop by it would be just me, not even sure where we are staying yet, but some place huge, there will be 2000 thousand of us.. Yikes!!!!
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.220.1 ) at 11:51 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
The Natural
Just pre-ordered it. Buy.com was the least expensive again. It has a list of 24.99, they are selling it for 16.99.
I was only missing one DVD in my order from Friday. Caddyshack 20th anniversary edition. LOL Has anyone seen this disc? I hope it has some cool extra features.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:45 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Dallas
Gar, also I will be watching the superbowl at a friends if you want to join us. He has a TN61X81 and the DTC-100 and a pretty sweet room.
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 11:44 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Opinions pls?
Mits RPTV that I need to talk a friend out of buying. Specs are:
Model WS-73907
CABINET
Screen Size - 73"
Aspect Ratio - 16:9
Finish - High Gloss Burl
2-Piece Cabinet
GENERAL
Video Systems - NTSC and HD-Upgradeable
Dimensions (rounded to nearest 1/8")
Height - 65 3/4"
Width - 64 1/4"
Depth - 29 7/8"
Weight (approx.) - 441 lbs.
Power consumption - 320W
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:44 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Dallas!
Gar: I am in Dallas, Plano actually which is just a few minutes north.
Let me know if you will have any free time, maybe we can meet for dinner or something.
Gar ( 169.207.194.241 ) at 11:37 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Dallas!
Anyone live in Dallas? Going to be down in Dallas from Sat. to Wens. Of this week. Don't know how much Time I will have because they have the week packed full of meetings.
Gar ( 169.207.194.241 ) at 11:36 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
BC: The Sony Digital 8s are great for the money, the tapes are less expensive and the quality is near the same as the DV tapes. Depends on how much you want to spend.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 11:34 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
BC: I'd suggest the mini-DV format. The two I liked the best was the Canon and the Panasonic (the Canon had a slightly better lens and was smaller, the Panasonic was a little cheaper).
CuRTis ( 64.161.24.217 ) at 11:33 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DSS Access Card
Hdlouie: I knew someone around here would confirm my ECM accidental card frying theory. I have heard the same story more than once from DirecTV employees.
Dish has a far smaller installed base so the reprogrammers ignore the format. I'm sure it can be done however.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:19 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
ScottV, Sonic, Wild Bill, JohnO, Cai: Sony KP61HS10 61" 4:3 set for sale. Hd ready and has vertical compression to take care of anamorphic DVDs.
You guys know anyone local who might be interested?
Hdlouie ( 216.244.18.228 ) at 11:11 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DSS
I didn't repost on purpose, I don't know how that happend. Anyway I don't know much about Dish network.
Hdlouie ( 216.244.18.228 ) at 11:08 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DSS Access Card
Directv sent a ECM down this week. They may have entered you Bin# by mistake, which killed your card. I installed a DSS last year and called Directv to activate the box. As I was waiting I for him to do something I asked him it he was busy, and he said yeah that they had to send out a bunch of cards to people that got zapped accidently and everyone's calling to activate the card. I don't think the ECM's are fool proof. Mine are still working so I must be lucky. I would tell D that I know you sent a ECM this week and your card got hit accidently. Worth a try, I wouldn't pay for it.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:55 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
CAI: People don't steal DiSH the way DSS is stolen. I get 1 or 2 emails a month telling me how to get all the free sat channels fom DSS. Never seen them for DiSH. Hacker interest in DiSH must be lower therefore DiSH doesn't need to do the ECMs.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:54 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Digi camcorder
good morning guys! 2 questions this morning:
1. what's a good digital camcorder(format, brand,etc)? DV, sony's digital 8mm...
2. A friend got a DTC-100 for his toshiba 4:3 TN61X81. He says that the convergence is all screwed up. If he turns on the DTC, it's messed up, if he turns it off and switches to his old DSS receiver, it's ok. Any ideas? I don't know if he has messed with anything but I can assure you he hasn't read any instructions before playing with things.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 10:31 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DSS Access Card
Hdlouie: Do you know if Dish does those ECMs? I have not heard of such problems with Dish, which I happen to have.
Hdlouie ( 216.244.18.228 ) at 10:20 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DSS Access Card
Directv sent a ECM down this week. They may have entered you Bin# by mistake, which killed your card. I installed a DSS last year and called Directv to activate the box. As I was waiting I for him to do something I asked him it he was busy, and he said yeah that they had to send out a bunch of cards to people that got zapped accidently and everyone's calling to activate the card. I don't think the ECM's are fool proof. Mine are still working so I must be lucky. I would tell D that I know you sent a ECM this week and your card got hit accidently. Worth a try, I wouldn't pay for it.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:13 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Superbowl
Rich F: I guess you are figuring on the Giants not showing-up.
Wild Bill ( 63.48.107.196 ) at 8:48 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
prince: Hey Prince. I can't help with your problem but I thought I'd give you a "how's it going" anyway. I have new next door neighbors and they are from your neck of the woods. Now I get to party with the local South African rugby players every weekend. My neighbor made a dish called porgy (sp?) last weekend. Quite an interesting stew served with porridge.
JBC ( 207.164.221.172 ) at 8:28 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Good morning gang...
AVB ( 64.41.32.237 ) at 8:16 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Last chance
I'll be putting my VMPS towers up for sale outside our little group here soon so if anybody in the Balt/DC region is interested let me know today!
AVB ( 64.41.32.237 ) at 8:08 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
HiPix HD PC card
CuRTis: I was looking to see what the prices are for the HiPix. It seems that there is only one place to buy it at the moment.
ScottVeirs ( 64.0.251.176 ) at 7:44 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
POPCORN and BYORK
Scott "popcorn": You dont need to design it. They give you the lay out u just link to your page. You just sign up, upload the image yo uwant on the items and thats about it.
Kieran ( 63.253.227.117 ) at 4:07 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
It's late
.... again... man! I don't know what it is about this week, but I just can't seem to get to bed on time. Good night all.
Kieran ( 63.253.227.117 ) at 4:05 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
prince: Hey prince! Long time no see. I tried the sony.com site, and a search there turned up nothing. Have you tried searching various online retailers, like buy.com, etown.com, 800.com, outpost.com, etc.? Many of the ship internationally. And, if you find it on a site that won't ship it to you, let us know here. I'm sure any one of us would be glad to receive it and forward it to you.
Kieran ( 63.253.227.117 ) at 4:00 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Unreal
Okay... I just tried it for the first time ever, and I have to say that Unreal Tournament is a pretty cool game indeed. Although, I couldn't see jack SH*T on this TFT/LCD laptop screen. Just not enough contrast for such a dark game. I'm sure it will look GREAT on a 19" FD Trinitron, though!
prince ( 155.239.94.83 ) at 2:25 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Hi guys - I need some help. I bought a Sony portable dvd player. In the manual it talks about a LASER LINK function. This is IR transmitter that fits onto the player. The problem is that Sony over here (South Africa) will not import them - they say the market is too small. The part number is AV-IR IFV-FX1. Can any of you guys check for me if it is available over there and what price it goes for.
Rich ( 152.163.204.62 ) at 2:07 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
DSS Access Card
CuRTis: Mike Wallace should investigate and do a report about Directv on 60 mins?? Good Idea!! Here's another idea, go to foxnews.com amd click on the O'Reilly Factor!!! Send him an e-mail. Go get em Bill!!
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 1:47 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
if I were 20 years younger
... Martina Hingas would be my target. Smart, strong, but with amazing control and the most positive attitude you'll ever find.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 1:29 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Kieran: Bring your notebook over this weekend & you can download 50% of the Internet in no time flat!
Cajun Mike ( 204.252.236.66 ) at 1:25 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
For Cajun
Cytotech: What in the hell is that? I just got finished watching Hoosiers in 5.1. They take this long to release the movie and they don't remaster it in 5.1? that's crap... I'll still buy it though.
Kieran ( 63.253.226.113 ) at 1:12 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
CuRTis: e.g., my sis's b/f is paying through the nose for DSL that provides minimum 1.5 Mb/s, up to 6 Mb/s, downstream. If your numbers are right, you are CRUSHING him. Time to log on to some live streaming video sites, dude!
Kieran ( 63.253.226.113 ) at 1:10 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Dude... I don't know what kind of connection you've got, or what those units are... but I've never seen anything go 35.4 MEGAbit/second. Not even T1. WOW! AFAIK, that's faster than T1 on a good day.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:47 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
... now 35370.3K you get the idea.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:46 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
now 34438.4K. The more you throw at it, the fastesr it goes.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:45 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Kieran: Current reported downstream rate = 33491.9K; frames 27526. Not too shabby eh?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.75 ) at 12:28 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
CuRTis; Ahhhhh....the good ole days! Yes, a lot easier then, but DirecTV wised up.
Kieran ( 63.253.226.113 ) at 12:24 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
CuRTis: Aaah, it's at 80%... I think I'll let if finish. T1 speeds, huh? What's your current downstream rate?
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:20 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
later dudes/ lurking dudettes
some of the best women tennis players in the world are in the semi finals at a grand slam event on ESPN2 at the moment. They're at lot more fun than you geeks Later.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:12 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
BIG AL: Well back in the early daze it was a 2 second pull operation - or so I was told!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.75 ) at 12:10 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
CuRTis; Not as easy to steal a dealer card as you think! They are about a half inch shorter than normal, and require a special clip thingy to remove. We got a replacement a couple months ago, so I tried to pull the old one without using the clip. 15 minutes with needle nose, tweezers, paperclips, and anything else I could think of, but no success.
Rich F ( 172.166.134.22 ) at 12:10 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Superbowl
Ron H: Hi Ron, thanks for the invite but I got a good deal on airfare and will be going home for the first time in a month. I will be watching the Ravens win. Remember that I said the winner of the Titans Ravens game would be the Superbowl Champ and I will be home to see it. Hope you guys have a great time.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:08 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
BIG AL: Life forms outside of planet California. Welcome!
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:07 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
volume settings
Kieran: That IS strange, never encountered such a thing.
& welcome all to the Kieran & Curtis show Where is everybody, asleep or something? It's only 9:00
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.75 ) at 12:07 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
T-Man; Call Directv back, if the overnight reset doesn't work. Try another operator, and if they say the same thing, demand a supervisor. I just went through this, and they sent me a free card. However it did take a LOT of complaining on my part. The squeaky wheel gets the grease!
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 12:05 AM EST Thursday, January 25, 2001
Kieran: Save it for when you're here this weekend. My DSL is running @ T1+ speeds.
Kieran ( 63.253.226.113 ) at 11:57 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
I'm trying to d/l the service manual from Dell for the CPxH series, and I'm getting a xfer rate of 2.8 kbs... on a 7.7MB file!
Kieran ( 63.253.226.113 ) at 11:55 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
CuRTis: Online, yes... at a paltry 24.6kbps... My appologies to Jorge for butchering his name!
Hey, do you know why the system volume automatically lowers itself to minimum whenever the laptop is docked? If I undock it and use the speakers, GREAT sound. Dock it and use the speakers, and the volume is litterally lowered to minimum. If you bring up the volume control and try to raise the volume, it will step itself back down to zero.
????
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 11:36 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
... assuming that he can survive the pace - most people can't/won't. There's a huge personal price that all these people pay to get to their riches, no matter how easy it appears to the outside world. Trust me, I know of what I speak on accounta I have walked a mile in their moccasins.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 11:26 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
FedEx sucks
Kieran: Well look who's online!
No, not Jorge (spell it right man) a guy starting up his own new venture who I'm willing to bet will retire in 3 years. Yes, he's about your age.
Kieran ( 63.253.226.113 ) at 11:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
FedEx sucks
CuRTis: Was that client with the DLP needing the NIC card Gorge by any chance? That sucks, for both of you. So, what happened? If you don't want to bore the forum, you can email me or tell me Saturday.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 11:09 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
HiPix HD PC card
AVB: Just out of curiosity, you had mentioned that this gin joint popped up when you did a search on goto.com on HiPix.
Are you thinking of picking one up? You may want to check out the group I call "paying beta testers" over on the HTPC section of avscience. Looks like it works but there are some serious drawbacks with version 1.0 (what a shock, huh?), including a weaker than DTC100 tuner, overheating & software issues. Nothing horrible, but IMHO not ready for AVB prime time.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 11:00 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
HOME THEATERS
cai: Agreed. Too many homeowners have conflicting desires that this show attempts to cater to;
1) Great picture & sound
2) When it's turned off, they don't want to see any of it.
Don't these people understand that just like a fine race car or motorcycle, these things are works of art just standing still?!
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 10:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
HOME THEATERS
ScottVeirs: That is the same program they had a few days ago. I found it interesting, but it could be made into a series and go into more details. The one setup I did not like was the one with the TV on a turntable with the built to spec cabinet. There does not seem to be any flexibility in this system. The owners of this home were more interested in hiding the TV from view that in watching it.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 10:38 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Darian: Back at you.
CuRTis ( 64.170.152.167 ) at 10:30 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
FedEx sucks
Derb: I couldn't agree with you more. Talk up the people then ask politely yet firmly for a new free replacement. Works nearly every time for me too. 1 bad word from a consumer does more sales damage than 20 happy customers - esp. on the Net.
So get this. FedEx hell today: Part II
A client of mine is frantically finishing a huge PowerPoint presentation that he must have a notebook & DLP projector (from me) before he gets on an 8PM flight to NYC tonight. No problem except that he MUST have a 11MB/sec wireless NIC card installed in it & none of the local stores have them in stock. His client is a wireless ISP, so in order for him to win the biz he has to connect to the Net wirelessly as a crutial part of his presentation.
I tell him to calm down, I know where to get one cheap & (barely) on time. I call my supplier in Phoenix yesterday afternoon. He has no fewer than 700 in stock & can FedEx one out right away - no way I'll have to wait past noon today for it. He'll even pay the shipping charges, because like all my biz friends, he owes me!
Cool. I'll actually have a few hours to install & test this NIC. Only 1 little hitch - FedEx never shows up. I go to their online tracking service and it looks like it has been on a van in my neighborhood circiling for 5 hours! I call a (semi) human being & demand my f*&$ing package. "We promise to look into it sir - worst case you'll have it tomorrow morning for sure, once we find it"
That's right, they lost it. My client is in full cardiac arrest & it's all my fault....
It just dawned on me that this is likely boring you guys stiff. If you want to hear the even MORE unreal ending, you'll have to ask me.
Suffice to say I'm not a huge FedEx fan today!!!!!
ScottVeirs ( 64.0.251.176 ) at 10:03 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
HOME THEATERS
HGTV has a show on right now 10pm est all about home theaters and shit, its WAY COOL.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.126 ) at 9:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
For Cajun
trav1: Well, in that case...
I wish The Natural was going to be 5.1
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 9:04 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
For Cajun
Cytotech: Well not really, was sort of a joke. It will be anamorphic and carry a new 5.1 mix on it though. I remember seeing it when I was little and loved it. Now it is good for a chuckle. It was a Columbia Tristar release back in 1983.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.126 ) at 9:01 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
For Cajun
trav1: Never seen it. I take it it is good?
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 8:57 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
For Cajun
Cytotech: Dont forget on the same day as The Natural comes out, you also have KRULL!
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 8:37 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Darian: you have mail.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.126 ) at 8:33 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
For Cajun
From The Digital Bits yesterday...
"The big piece of news today is that Columbia TriStar has officially announced the DVD release of The Natural for April 3rd. The film will be in anamorphic widescreen, with English Dolby Digital 4.0 (and 2.0 audio in English, French, Spanish and Portuguese). Extra materials will include The Heart of the Natural documentary (featuring interviews with Cal Ripken, Jr.), filmographies, trailers and a book insert which reproduces archival newspapers clippings. The SRP for the disc is $24.95."
Derb ( 199.174.4.153 ) at 7:43 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
FedEx sucks
CuRTis: See I'm now going to remember what happened to Curtis next time I need a next day air service. I guess it will not be FedSuxs
Derb ( 199.174.4.153 ) at 7:38 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
T-Man: That just sucks... Have to pay for a new card, screw that noise. Myself I would be writting letters to both Direct TV & RCA explaining what is going on. Build them up with praise, tell them you want a new card, and thank them for helping you out. This has never failed for me from solid brass door handles to vacuum cleaners, I always get something new as replacement or credit for work done to get it right. Quality products sell themselves and word of mouth is a powerful tool. If a company fails to back itself up; I don't purchase anything more from them and tell as many people I know to do the same.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 7:36 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
FedEx sucks
Murphy's law in action. I paid full boat to have the earliest possible delivery of a cashiers check via FedEx to the guy I'm buying my Shampoo from, 500 miles away. My movers will do the move for very cheap if they can stick it on thier partially full (fully paid for) truck tonight.
FedEx assures deliver no later than 10:30AM PST today. No problem, right? Wrong. The thing went to Phoenix at 7:30 this morning & promptly got lost. Do you know how hard it is to place a stop payment on a cashiers check? The local Sherrif was to gewt involved.
Now the move could cost me a ton and FedEx doesn't think they have any responsibility to me other than to refund my shipping money. Dickheads. Anyone recall their old motto "When it absolutely, positively had to be there overnight"?? They dropped that tag line when they lost a lawsuit.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.254 ) at 7:36 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Remotes arrive!
Darian: I think you'll have to talk to Deniz' buddy Phil about the color analyzer. I don't think Deniz has anything to do with color analyzer rentals.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.250 ) at 7:33 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
What I'm selling next
CuRTis: Any word on that box?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.250 ) at 7:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
What I'm selling next
CuRTis: HEHEHEHE!!! Well, in that case, let me know when I'm rich enough to own one and when a 4X4 version is out (with the ability to create new tracks and new vehicles)
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 7:16 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
T-Man: DirecTV can be very specific about what cards they decide to fry. A particular serial #, a whole range of SN's, any card that doesn't match up to the receiver serial # that is installed in and was registered with initially. Lots of scumbags regularly steal full access H cards from dealer demos (think for a minute how easy this is to do).
In any counter measure where you (as a programmer) don't really know enough about your enemy, one tactic is to wipe out everything, then deal with the poor paying customers you screwed when they call complaining that their cards are suddenly dead. These cards are very cheap to manufacture and a firm like DirecTV who buys in bulk is still making money on you at $39 a pop for replacement cards that they well know may be their own doing.
Someone inside DirecTV needs to call Mike Wallace to do a story on this to air on 60 Minutes!
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 7:05 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
AVB: You're right, I was thinking of someone else tossing lots of cards out - sorry. Years ago before DirecTV started hiring people who knew how to zap an altered card they did one or two rounds of total card replacement. Not so expensive when you have a few hundred thousand subscribers but prohibitave with today's base of 8 million paying customers.
I doubt that we'll see 100% replacements again for this simple economic reality.
Joe ( 152.163.197.73 ) at 6:59 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
T-Man
It happened to my father in law last summer. They sent him a new card for free.
Joe ( 152.163.197.73 ) at 6:58 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Buy.com
CuRTis: I guess I feel guilty I sat though the postman the other night.
T-Man ( 24.48.226.206 ) at 6:49 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Oops.
T-Man ( 24.48.226.206 ) at 6:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
AVB: I've tried the 5 minute drill, but let me try the couple of hour idea. Thanks and thanks all for the other comments. Any other thoughts?
T-Man ( 24.48.226.206 ) at 6:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
AVB: I've tried the 5 minute drill, but let me try the couple of hour idea. Thanks and thanks all for the other comments. Any other thoughts?
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Speaking of Cable Modems...
Chris L.: I am connected through a NIC card. I have a 3Com 100, if I am not mistaken.
AVB ( 64.41.33.169 ) at 6:25 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
BAGMAN: If the 5 minute unplug didn't work do it for a few hours. That has always worked for me.
AVB ( 64.41.33.169 ) at 6:24 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
CuRTis: Actually, I've never tossed a card except for the one that was replaced when DSS sent me a new card. I didn't ask for it either it just showed up. The old card was working at the time.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.34 ) at 6:19 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
T-Man: Was one of the work-arounds just unplugging the receiver,with the card still in it, then after five minutes or so, plug it back in?
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.34 ) at 6:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
CuRTis: Why wouldn't both cards get zapped?
T-Man: We had our service for five years and this never happened to us. I seem to recall that they used to have a channel telling you how to replace an old access card,that they sent you,and that never happened either. On the other hand,I just had to call them and ask why we got a bill when our dish is still on the house in Ohio when we went through all the steps to cancell service back in Nov. Their response...oops. I think I'd be kind of pissed.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 5:59 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Speaking of Cable Modems...
cai: Is yours hooked up to a network card or through the USB port? They couldn't get it running through the USB so they installed a network card and ran it through that. Seems to work fine.....although I wonder if I could make it faster.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 5:52 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
T-Man: The likelyhood is that DirecTV themselves probably fried your card as a mistaken test card durring an ECM (Electronic Counter Measure). Of course they will never fess up to this. Had you simply administered a little sodium penethal, the person you spoke with would have told you that this happens ALL the time. In the old days they would have told you to toss out your old card (exactly what they'll do with yours). The only reason they want it back is so it doesn't slip into the "wrong hands" & get reprogrammed as a test card. You can sell your fried card on eBay right now for around $100. Care to guess what biz the buyers are in?
Ask AVB how many cards he has tossed out
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 5:43 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
What I'm selling next
BC: Sorry dude, minimum order is 15 simulators!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:36 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
What I'm selling next
CuRTis: They had one of those at a mall here. Yea, I'll take one with 6 simulators please. Do you think it will fit in my 770 sq. ft. apt?:)
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 4:49 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Action
Anyone ever watch this TV series. It was produced by HBo and was a comic interperatation of how hollywood works. It stared Jay Mohr and I have never laughed harder at a network TV show. It was deamed a little TOO OVER THE TOP by some and it disappeared. I want that show on DVD!
T-Man ( 24.48.226.206 ) at 4:47 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DSS Access Card
Has anybody had this experience? One of my two dish receivers is giving me a message that says "Please insert a valid access card". I call Directv, do the recommended work-arounds with no results. They suggest that I probably need a new access card and that they will order me one for $89.00 and then credit me $50.00 when I send the old one back to them. I ask if they have to do this very often and she responds no. I ask what if I get my new card and it still doesn't work, am I out the net $39.00? Yes she says. I ask why would my card be not working? She answers because the chip is either damaged or the card is expired. She suggests that I call RCA if I wanted to find out more.
I tried to call RCA service and was on hold forever although their touchtone message seemed to suggest that all access card problems should go through my program provider.
Now I have no real problem with paying the net $39.00 if that fixes the problem (although dishes are getting cheaper everyday and upgrading I guess would be an option. This is a digital dish however so not sure what upgrade I'm talking about.) Any thoughts as to alternatives or should I just have Directv order me a new card and see what happens? Anybody....Bueller....anybody? TIA
Cajun Mike ( 209.124.207.213 ) at 4:46 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Buy.com
CuRTis: I got Hoosiers in and I want to get The Natural. I also want to get the Godfather trilogy, Indiana Jones Trilogy and Star Wars Trilogy plus episode 1 on DVD. The delays for these items is plum ridiculous. There are posts everyday on the net about that jackass George Lucas and how he's thumbing his nose at the public. .... The most arrogant thing he ever said was that he wanted to make sure the format would stick before he put it out. Nevermind that he's released it on Laser Disc which is dead! (sorry you LD lovers)
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 4:38 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Buy.com
Joe & Cajun: Try Redford. The line on Costner is that he's not an actor at all. He really is a pissed-off regular guy who just wants some love and maybe meaningful work out of life. The million$ don't hurt either. Think about just about all of his roles and this begins making sense.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 4:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Remotes arrive!
Darian: Looks like I should be in the market for a Pronto then, huh? My Shampoo is paid for and sitting 500 miles away. If I had the time I would go get it myself as I don't trust UPS gorillas with my new baby. My movers will shock-crate it and put it inside a very cushy riding air ride van, same way they move jillion $$ high-end Sun Enterprise servers/ EMC2 storage arrays.
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.174 ) at 4:17 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
What I'm selling next
Scott "popcorn": Thes simulators have almost everything on your wish list. That's right - downshift the simulator and give your body real whiplash! These things have full aircraft-style hydralics for motion simulation and run on very fast UltraSparc II CPU's.
Your basic Bill Gates gameroom kind of toy. I think we should park one in Cajun's driveway to attract those good ole southern girls who always wanted to go out with a real NASCAR driver! (ducking)
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 3:38 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Remotes arrive!
Just got 2 new remotes from Shampoo Corp Of America. The Elusive service remote and a remote with Discrete Input Access. Not to mwntion OFF AND ON!
No more toggelers for this kid. Pronto CCF will be started on shortly and grey scale calibration is comming soon. Need to get that rental color analyzer from Bill's buddy Deniz.
Bill: My guess on my team mates leg was based on the rehab we used at UMCP while I was attending. I am always supprised at how little of the speed we had at Kenis is used in the normal world. Broken bones were mended a whole lot quicker at school.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 3:24 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
lesser comapnies
RickMTB:: I had in mind... KLH and the companies even less known tham Apex. The ones that Circuit or Best Buys lists as "DVD PLAYER $99."
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.250 ) at 3:18 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
What I'm selling next
CuRTis: Now see, if it had full force feedback (steering, clutch, brake, and shift lever), a 5 or 6 speed stick, clutch, brake, and accelerator pedals, and was more of 4X4 off-highway type game, I'd want one
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 2:56 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Dreamcast Goes Bye Bye?
Don't know if this has already been reported...
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/computing/01/24/japan.sega.reut/index.html
CuRTis ( 64.161.25.110 ) at 2:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
What I'm selling next
No flames please. This is simply a humorous line of work. Can I interest anyone in full-sized NASCAR simulators where you and 14 pals can race against each other? Check this out.
http://www.lbet.com/experience/index.html
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.250 ) at 2:25 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
POPCORN and BYORK
Scott Veirs: Thanks for the Heads-up... I'm going to let BYork handle it (and decide if we should even do it)... But I'll help with the design if wanted
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:49 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
CHC; Does that mean I'll be getting a package soon?
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
JeffS, AVB; I thought the carpet spikes were to prevent the cabinet from moving forward and backward opposite of the speaker movement, and cancelling some sound.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Joe; I may give Hotmail a try. Of course if I didn't have to worry about people signing me up for porn sites, I could just use my regular e-mail.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:43 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Rich; Thanks buddy, but it's more "get used to the pain", than get better.
BIG AL ( 148.77.32.18 ) at 1:41 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Cajun; Buy.com locks up my computer as soon as I try to checkout. No other site does that. Very strange.
CHC ( 64.161.25.110 ) at 1:37 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Made it...
Kieran: Just pretend you're back in college ... sleep through class & get the Cliff's Notes from the brainiest person in class! Look where this stategy got me today
Kieran ( 63.253.8.48 ) at 1:00 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Made it...
CHC: Yep, thanks again. I signed up for the free 30 day trial from Prodigy. Connecting at only about 26kbps, though...
Yeah... so much for early bedtime. Oh, well. I'll catch up tonight.
Joe ( 64.12.104.41 ) at 12:51 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Woops Kevins not in that one, me bad
Joe ( 64.12.104.41 ) at 12:49 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Buy.com
Cajun Mike: Because it's a Kevin Cosnter movie !!!!
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 12:27 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Buy.com
Cajun Mike: I have had very good results with them and with 800.com.
Cajun Mike ( 209.124.228.226 ) at 12:16 PM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Buy.com
Totally impressed with their speed. After using DVD price search and getting the best price for 5 DVD's, they shipped my order the next day and I received it in South Louisiana two days later. There shipping costs were less than everyone else also. I highly recommend them off of this one business transaction.
Anyone have an answer as to why "The Natural" is not yet out on DVD?
Joe ( 205.188.199.47 ) at 11:30 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Big AL
I use Hotmail and it works well fro me.
CHC ( 64.161.25.110 ) at 11:29 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Made it...
Kieran: Glad you made it - I knew you would. So much for your early bedtime last night huh?
AVB ( 64.41.33.115 ) at 11:23 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Subwoofers
Jeff S.: What I meant was that the carpet will have no real effect on the frequencies of the sub. The wavelengths are so long that the carpet won't be an acoustical barrier.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 10:19 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
POPCORN and BYORK
Scott Veirs: OPPS my bad, thats www.cafepress.com/sysnetix and the company main page is www.cafepress.com
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 10:18 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
POPCORN and BYORK
Check this out. I just signed up with a company to create company gear:
T-shirts, sweatshirts, long sleeve Tee's, coffee mugs, and mousepads and they might be doing polo's soon.
If you set up your own store (free), you can tell HTOC gear and maybe it will pay off some of the bills like hosting.
Here is mine www.cafegear.com/sysnetix if you like it and decide to sign up...I'll be sure to buy a HTOC t-shirt :).
BTW, if you sign up, be sure to give "sysnetix" as a referral!
Thanks! CYA
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 8:38 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Direct View 4:3 HDTVs Burn-in
GAR: In my search for reviews of various monitors, I came across an article in an old Widescreen Review Magazine, issue 37, that talked about the two ways 1.78 AR is handled by 1.33 direct view HDTVs.
Group 1, includes Sony, Samsung, and Mitsubishi, reduces the raster to accommodate this AR. This gives way to uneven wear of the CRT because the black bands above and below the image do not get a display signal. Eventually, and this has to do with the amount of 1.78 material that you view, you will get burn-in of the tube. The other drawback of this method is that the 1080 lines are being squeezed into a much smaller area, to the point where there is no real definition for each of the 1080 lines. Thus, the picture softens.
Group 2, includes RCA/Proscan and Toshiba, has the source pass a letterboxed image to the monitor. This signal will have top and bottom black bands, with the difference that these bands will have a signal and there is no uneven wear of the CRT. No burn-in. The disadvantage of this system is that you lose about 200 lines, 100 top and 100 bottom, from the sets 1080 total.
In my opinion group 2 is better because with group 1 it is conceivable that one could wind-up with four sets of burn-in lines. One set of two burn-in lines for 1.78 AR signals and another two for 2.35 AR signals. Mind you, I have no idea about how much viewing hours it would take for these lines to form, but, why take the chance. It would always be the back of my mind.
Jeff S. ( 32.97.110.73 ) at 8:29 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Subwoofers
AVB: Do you think it's really a question of the interaction of frequencies and carpet? I thought it was more a question of the interaction of the carpet and the cabinet. As in, the cabinet floating on the carpet, or anchored to the floor. I suspect that the output of the sub is in someway hindered if the cabinet is floating and can resonate. If it is anchored, it won't resonate as much which will ultimately produce a cleaner sound. Well, that's what I was thinking anyway....
AVB ( 64.41.32.173 ) at 7:52 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Subwoofers
Jeff S.: The carpet you have will have no real effect on the frequencies that a subwoofer outputs. While there is some evidence to say that spikes may improve higher frequency cabinet drivers, for them to work almost everything else must be perfect and few if any of use have that kind of room. My GMAS came with spikes and I don't use them because the sub sits on tile over concrete and they have no real effect for that type of floor. Give them a try if you want but I don't think it is worth it. YMMV.
Jeff S. ( 32.97.110.69 ) at 6:43 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Subwoofers
I'd like to get your opinions on the use of spikes on subwoofers. I have spikes on my LF and RF speakers, but I did not put any on my subwoofers(2).
They are currently stacked one on top of the other but are sitting on thick carpet. Should I have spikes so that the sub gets grounded to the wood floor beneath the carpet? I just read that sub bass can be greatly improved by the use of spikes. Do you guys use them? How are your subs set up?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:46 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Morning gents.
Ron H: Will try you between 7:30 and 9:30, may be tough due to early morning meetings but I will try!!
Kieran ( 63.253.226.63 ) at 3:36 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Made it...
Well, I made it online, Curtis (and everyone else). Yes, Curtis came through, and let me inturrupt his evening again, in order to get me up and running on one of his laptops. And, it's a mighty nice one, at that.
So, I will now be able to check in at least in the evenings this week.
CHC ( 64.170.152.118 ) at 1:48 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
DirecTV to Offer HD sports
DirecTV Inc. and billionaire Mark Cuban, who owns the National Basketball
Association's Dallas Mavericks, are in negotiations to jointly create a high-definition
sports channel for the satellite service, sources said.
It was unclear what sports programming would run on the network, or whether
Mavericks games would be included. DirecTV representatives had no comment on
the matter.
Rich ( 205.188.193.183 ) at 1:32 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Big Al, Hope your feeling better Pal...
Gar ( 169.207.193.135 ) at 1:02 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Lets see some Pics!!
AVB: We need some pics of your system. You got a great pic of your lovely wife, now we need some HT pics... Come on, cough them up!!...
Gar ( 169.207.193.135 ) at 1:00 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
BIG AL: I hear you big Al, never had a back problem or Stomach problem till I turned 30. A Snowblower saved my ass this year and my new treadmill will help shave off unwanted pounds. But doesn't matter, there is some dumb thing you can do and it's all over with. Example trying to get a 300lb treadmill down some stairs...... Back is still killing me, lucky for me I have a rehab device that helps stretch the back and spine out.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.37 ) at 12:26 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
AVB; I wonder what's up with my Yahoo e-mail? Strange....
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.37 ) at 12:18 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Thinking about vacation is depressing! I went from 7 weeks paid vacation a year (actually it would've been 8 this year) to 0! My last vacation was 6 years ago, and any time off from this point on, will be used up working on the house. Every time I turn around, this back injury screws me in another way! To every person reading this, DO LOTS OF CRUNCHES, AND INVERTS EVERY DAY!!!!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.37 ) at 12:11 AM EST Wednesday, January 24, 2001
Bagman; Of course it's a sweet deal! You live in Florida, I live in Illinois! Can you say freeloader....er....guest? Of course CuRTis invited me to Cali, and I didn't make it there, so you're probably safe, and CuRTis is probably glad I didn't make it.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.198 ) at 10:52 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
JBC: If possible try me between 7:30 and 9:15 am central tommorow.
Ron H ( 205.230.159.47 ) at 10:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
How I found the HTOC
JBC: Try me abour 9:30 pm. I may be hard to reach after that for a few days unless you call me early tommorow at the office. I leave at 11:00 tommorow for a meeting in KC and return at 9:00 PM Thursday night.
AVB ( 64.41.32.246 ) at 9:37 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
How I found the HTOC
Scott "popcorn": At least that makes some sense but what does the HiPix have to do with us?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.198 ) at 9:20 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
How I found the HTOC
Doing a search on Google for "home theater community" HTOC is the fourth item found...
Kieran ( 63.36.207.114 ) at 8:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
How I found the HTOC
AVB: HEY! cool! Maybe this means we have more lurkers than we think?
(okay my SECOND post for the day... ) But now I'm leaving for my hotel.... no more internet (unless Curtis comes through!).
AVB ( 64.41.33.184 ) at 8:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
How I found the HTOC
I just did a search for the Telemann HiPix and on GoTo.com the HTOC came up as the third choice. I've never seen us listed before. Cool.
Derb ( 199.174.4.247 ) at 8:12 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
Ron H : Thanx for the invite, I'll let you know..
Kieran ( 63.36.207.114 ) at 8:06 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
My one post for today
I'm on my instructor's laptop via modem... so this is it for today.
Curtis:Congrats on the DSL. Did PacBell come through, or did it just magically start working again? And why haven't you called me yet today? I feel like the used one-night stand... The laptop is in dire need of some installation/startup disks. Can I come over again for a little bit tonight (just a short while... I need to get to bed early tonight). Call my cell, please.
cai: I'll try to make it to Curtis' house when you're in the area. It'll be fun to have someone other than him and me there!
trav1:That sounds pretty tempting about the <$2k HDTV... especially at a size of 47"!!! I just hope the picture is decent. Also, 9 point convergence??? Totally inadequate IMHO. I just did the convergence on Curtis' TW65H80, which I think is 64 points, and even that was hard to get some sections perfect... not impossible, just hard. Maybe it will have a decent service mode like Toshiba. Then I'd seriously consider one of these sets. Especially since my Mom & Dad are bugging me to take my (16:9 NTSC only) TW40H80 off my hands.
BTW, anybody know how to adjust PINCUSION on a TW65H80? Curtis has some serious bowing going on at the top and bottom of the screen. TRAP and PARA didn't do what we need. I could look it up, but don't have the online time.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:44 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Speaking of Cable Modems...
Chris L.: My cable modem is a Toshiba. I have not seen any evaluations of cable modems. Check with someone with knowledge at your cable provider office to see if you can use your own. But, at close to $270 per modem, I would not replace the free one.
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 6:13 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Speaking of Cable Modems...
I'm sure that the cable co. (who supplied the modem) is using a less than good (crappy?) modem since they are free to subscribers. Would I benefit from running out and getting myself a brand name modem? I now am the proud owner of a Motorola 'Surfboard' cable modem. Should I bother upgrading to a 3Com is Motorola a decent modem to begin with? I know nothing about this but damn if I didn't just download a 1.6 meg file in 15 seconds!
Chris L. ( 24.49.151.149 ) at 6:09 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Scott "popcorn": Was getting the same errors about an hour ago. Funny thing is is that the cable guys just set up my new cable modem and I thought it wasn't working.
JBC ( 207.164.221.50 ) at 6:01 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Ron H: Where can I call you within the next 30 to 45 minutes?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:49 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
sony 16:9 RP
Gar: yea, I know a guy who works for Sony. He said he can get it for me, shipped to my living room. He wasn't clear if shipping was included but oh well. I haven't seen the sets yet. thanks.
Gar ( 169.207.193.184 ) at 5:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
sony 16:9 RP
BC:Sweat set, and that is a very good price, is it new? The 55" I saw was excellent, and I heard this unit was even better.
Gar ( 169.207.193.184 ) at 5:15 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Scott Veirs: The Pioneer DV-37 DVD Elite player is one of the better single Progressive players out there for the money. The Sony is good, but won't play CD-R or CD-W which is one of the reasons I didn't but it.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.213 ) at 4:45 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
By the way, they seem to be random.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.213 ) at 4:44 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
BYork: I'm getting some Internal Server Errors (500) yet I haven't changed the CGI... did Superb change something else, or are they just having problems?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.213 ) at 4:43 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
superbowl
How about just replacing the screen with a white board and dry erase markers for the superbowl?
CHC ( 64.161.26.22 ) at 3:47 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
DSL is finally up
Ordered it 7/15/00, finally working as of 5 minutes ago. Free at last, free at last ... and way fast.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 3:04 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
sony 16:9 RP
Does anyone know anything about the sony 16:9 rp's (namely KP-65XBR10W)?
I can get one for $4710.
Wild Bill ( 172.173.99.214 ) at 2:06 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
OUCH update
Darian: Ouch is right. I hope his rezuperation goes well. At least he'll be walking in normally in 10 weeks. I'm in a cast for 4 months and I should be walking normally in about 10-12 months.
I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow and my sutures will be removed. Then it is right back into an immobililzing cast. I'm going to beg and plead that I get a cast that can be removed for showers and cleaning. My lower leg tends to swell overnight and it fells like a very tight fit first thing in the morning. I promise to follow the doctors' orders, I do , I do.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.14 ) at 1:53 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
T-Man: IF you're lurking,any second thoughts or updates?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 1:52 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Darian: Well, I don't know if these can be considered "lesser" companies but would say getting a Toshiba, Panasonic, or Pioneer is a pretty safe move. I have a Toshiba... picture is fine, has a couple of cool features (zoom, for one) and has a really nice remote. I susepct they all come in around the same... and I suspect there are few if any discernable picture differences, so would just get the cheapest/easiest to buy...
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:38 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
OUCH update
Team mate had to stay at teh hospital over night and may be there for the next 3 days. When he was lying on his side I noticed a deformation on the lateral side of his shin. X-Ray showed Compounded Tib and Fractured Fib. Both breaks were clean and straight lines. EMS thought he had shattered part of of the bone. Thankfully they were wrong.
Jim had 2 hours of Surgery last night and is feeling no pain on his current meds. No word yet on when he will be up and about but the last Tib Fib I delt with at U of M took about 10 weeks before normal walking was resumed. Cast then Rehab. Bill you have a kindered spirit.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:33 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
480P is mostly ment for RPTVs and Direct View Monitors. Once you start talking about larger than RPTV screens then people start crying out... I SEE SCAN LINES! That when you go to a Scaler or HTPC to better match the sweet spot of any projection device.
Wild Bill ( 63.42.222.198 ) at 1:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Printer PSA
If anyone is looking for an inexpensive printer, CompUSA has the HP Deskjet 812C for $84.99. But wiat, there's more! There is also a $35 manufactureres rebate so the next cost of a decent HP printer is $50. I picked up one today. Not a bad deal at all. THe sale lasts this week only and when they are all sold, they are gone.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 1:22 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Darian: {Idiot Speaking} What is a DV-37 - ok just looked it up on google. Looks like a nice peice of hardware. Could you email me with price details? Thanks!
sdveirs@sysnetix.com
BTW: I do still want to go to FP. I was not aware I would need a scaler, I will look up what it is. So if I go FP, that means I don't need progressive scan?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 1:20 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Ron H, you have mail
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:14 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Scott V: Weren't you going to go to front projection? If so you will need to look at scalers rather than progrssive DVDs.
Never managed to move my bridge DV-37. If you would be interested.. email me.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 1:10 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Darian: Thanks, actually I have an original Sony S-300 for my main system. I am upgrading that one to a progressive scan and DTS, maybe I should wait until I do that. Its going to be several months though since I'm not upgrading the S-300 until I get a HiDef TV.
Gar ( 169.207.194.248 ) at 1:09 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
ScottV: Ditto to Darian comment, I have the S360 in my bedroom, very nice player for the money.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
ScottV: Sony S-360 is a decent little perormer but there are a few that are chaeper from lesser companies.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 12:57 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
opps, thats "in my room" not "in my roomate"
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 12:56 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Inexpensive DVD Player
Hey gang, I am putting together a small set up in my roomate with my old Integrated AMP that was in my closet and a OLD OLD CD player. I cant find the power cord for the CD player and thinking it might be better to buy an inexpensive DVD player instead to use as DVD/CD.
What DVD players would you recommend for a low low price but still with some quality options. I'm not picky about the unit at all. I'm open to almost anything, as long as its inexp...ok CHEAP!
Thanks
Scott
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 12:29 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Correction below: Should say "digital out", not video out to feed the CD-R.
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 12:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Darian, BC: Thanks Guys. That's the info I was looking for Darian. My buddy, who is cheap beyond belief needs a new receiver. He went out and bought a low end Onkyo Digital Ready receiver several years ago without my knowledge. I was able to turn it into a DD system with the addition of a Denon AVP-2000. The receiver blew up the other day and he wants a replacement, but doesn't want to spend more than $5-600. I was able to use the digital out on the AVP-2000 to feed his CD-R machine, but I don't think any of the better entry level AV receivers have a video out. This guy is going to freak out when I tell him that he won't be able to hook his outdoor speakers up to a B speaker connection because the better receivers don't have them anymore. Hopefully I will be able to hook him up with a multi-room pre out and scrounge up a small two channel amp. We're talking about tight here. He already has the 3000 and doesn't really care about dts at this time. He's got about 250 DVD's and is very happy with DD. He's the magazine editor that I used to write for. He has no problem with spending on software, but hates paying anything for hardware. Oh Well!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:06 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Sony S3000
Gasgeek: Yes all ouputs are hot at the same time. Unit does not do dts. Nor does it have component.
Still have one up by the computer for movies in living room.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:03 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Sony DVP-S3000
Gasgeek: I had a 3000 but I don't remember if both were active together. I don't think I ever tried it.
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 12:00 PM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
BC: I didn't either. They're not on the Sears web site either. I wonder if local stores can contract individually with vendors on certain items.
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 11:58 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
CuRTis: Good thoughts. OneCall has the 65H80 for $3740 delivered with 12 months same as cash. I now have a 61" Toshiba, so the 65" won't seem THAT much bigger. I like the adjustability on the Toshiba and have had great customer service from Toshiba. One advantage on the Mits is that the screen protector is easily removeable. I seem to recall that it's a pretty complicated operation to remove it from the Toshiba. STB will have to wait for now. It looks like it would be strictly 480p for a while. And, no, my wife will very well remember whose idea it was.
Joe ( 152.163.213.192 ) at 11:53 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Computer Help
Thanks everyone who ofered.
I believe the problem is my old switchbo. It was a Belkin F1U123 mechanical and I was using a Belkin IEEE 1284 cabel.
I was looking at this switch as a replacement.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=1552&pcount=&Product_Id=13095&Section.Section_Path=%2FRoot%2FPeripheralSharing%2FAutomaticSwitches%2FReversib%2E%2E%2EtoSwitch%2F
Think this would work.
The other soulution is I might trade the Laser for a Color. After talking wiht the billing person, she informed me the Forms printer would be 90% of usage. The Laser would be for collections letters.
It seems a color, like the HP P1218 would be nice to have. It cold also be used for memorial cards. I usally scan a picture of the deceased and print it on the back of the card. I now use the laser for this the color would probabley go over good. THe thing is how many pictures would a color cartridge do. I print anywhere from 100-300 at a time, depending on the estimated size of Funeral.
Curtis, you have anything I might be intersted in?
Gasgeek ( 4.21.3.3 ) at 11:52 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Sony DVP-S3000
Good morning good people. I need some info. If I remember right, some members have or have had the Sony 3000 DVD player. Can anyone tell me if both the coax and optical audio outputs are both active at the same time without having to pick and choose one or the other from a menu? Specifically could you feed a digital CD signal from the 3000 to a receiver and a CD recorder at the same time using both the coax and toslink outputs?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:50 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
I didn't know sears sold the mits.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:48 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
superbowl
cai:
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 11:47 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
Ron H : Ron, I will fire off an email to you...
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.48 ) at 11:42 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
Geo.: Those sound like great deals. My old memory tells me that ISFers find the TW Toshiba's far more tweakable (same w/ Pioneer Elites) than esp. the Mits. I hope you have a large room because that teensey 65" in the store is gonna look like a monolith in your house. Just keep reminding Ms. Geo that it was HER idea after all.
The latest model Tosh are TW65H80 designations (same as 2 years ago oddly) They came out in the fall & I think nothing will be replacing them till at least next fall. What HD STB's are you considering?
Geo. ( 209.180.126.250 ) at 11:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
T-Man: Hello, all. Long time since I posted, but I try to get in occasionally to lurk. I have also recently been thinking about HD and 16:9 and saw, on the weekend, that Sears has the Mits WS-65807 on sale for $500 off. This brings the price down to $3499. OneCall also has the Toshiba 65" as well as the 56" marked down. The 56" is at $2800 and change. Well, I mentioned the Mits to my wife and rather than start throwing things at me as I expected, she thought the 65" either Tosh or Mits was do-able. A couple of questions: Are Tosh and Mits getting ready to come out with new models which might have more features and lower MSRP's, and, hence, providing incentives to their retailers? Which of these two is "better?" What should I do? Is my wife (and maybe T-Man's) setting us up? Are they related, but separated at birth? These are all questions that have to be answered before the plunge is taken. Any answers?
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 11:09 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
superbowl
BC: Just think of the possibilities, twists and turns if you would. Suppose he puts the saran wrap on and his wife not knowing the purpose, innocently sees this and hoping to tidy the place up for visitors takes it off without telling him. Big surprise for Ron.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:05 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Ron H : well, his supplier doesn't have those bulbs yet but they said they are trying to get them. couldn't give a price. oh well. I am gonna order some replacement headlight bulbs to try out for $8 bucks each. The xenon charged super white type (that piaa sells for $30 each, can you say ripoff)
Ron H ( 63.61.199.147 ) at 10:47 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
BC: Thanks for thinking about me for the bulb. Let me know.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:45 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
superbowl
You know it would be funny if Ron put saran wrap over his screen and in the middle of the game gabbed a marker and started yelling " no, no, no , line up this way, move the ball here, bring the backs this way..." while marking all over the screen like Madden. Well, it would be funny until the marker poked through the saran wrap!
Ron H ( 63.61.199.147 ) at 10:43 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
RickMTB: I do have two friends who tend to get loud and emotional during the game. I would worry about a slip of words. One of the guys is a Italian from Rhode Island and can be colorful at times.
I am sure they will try to wach themselves but......
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:42 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Ron H : hehe, actually I was over at my parents last night. He can get bulbs through his company. I just thought I would have him check on something like the sony bulb to see if I might be able to save anyone some money. I'll let you know what kind of price he can get if it's worth mentioning.
And I am always thinking about an FP! (more lately)
Ron H ( 63.61.199.147 ) at 10:36 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
BC: List is $500. I can pick one up local for $410 and I believe on the net for $350 TO $375.
What is going on in your mind?????? Do I hear a FP in your future?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 10:35 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
BC: Yeah! Telestarter Jr. Don't let them cheat by using those markers directly on the FP lens. I actually saw a VCR at a repair shop that a kid had inserted a PB&J sandwich in. EEEWWWW!
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.45 ) at 10:29 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
BIG AL: Man I've to to get out of the Keys. I'm getting Keys disease bad,I meant to respond yesterday. Helluva deal,I'll take it. E-mail heading your way in the near future.
Morning All.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:23 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
CuRTis: and you can pretend to be john madden and mark the screen all up on instant replays!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:22 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
morning gang. Ron - what's a replacement bulb cost for your sony?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 10:18 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
RickMTB: It's always fun to have the little ones play "catch the football" using permanent markers on front projection screens
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 10:12 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
Ron H : Thanks for the invite. How "children-friendly" would this be (in other words, will my two monsters be out of place)?
Joe ( 64.12.105.23 ) at 10:05 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Big Al,
No need to apoligize mail resent.
Joe ( 64.12.105.23 ) at 10:05 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Darian: I need to spilt and distubute (sp) my sat, antenea signals. I will send you a E-mail later. I seem to have a bad case of Pink eye and this monitor is killing me. Thanks
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 10:01 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
never buy used
Rich: Well of course you never buy used, you need that new (unopened)box smell!
I agree that as long as you know who has owned it & how it was cared for, buying a RP or any other box we desire can get you something nearly as good as new for a TON less money. I suspect there are people who would never consider buying a low mileage perfect car vs. a new one no matter how much they saved.
Having teens to feed and soon put through college, other expensive hobbies and keeping up with you guys means I almost never consider new HT gear. There's also the tightwad midwesterner in me saying "how much for a TV?!" Take my used Sampo. < 1/2 of the lowest new price I could find. It's all of 2 weeks old and has been turned on once. Warranty card is mine along with original receipt.
Great current model products in like new condition at low low prices are there for the finding. The only thing I lack is the warm fuzzy feeling of calling the dealer when I need help. I rarely need to do that so it's no great loss. YMMV.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 9:48 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Darian: I think it's safer playing in the NFL than your volleyball league. Yes I got your email & will reply soon. Let's just say that 1 big customer saw all the fastest stuff and paid a lot for everything. Taking it to email now.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.164 ) at 9:45 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
cai: Yes let's get together at my place for a BBQ/HT thing when you're in town. We'll get Kieran here.
BYork, are you available then?
Ron H ( 205.230.159.47 ) at 9:31 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Superbowl HD
RickMTB/Derb/Rich: Just a reminder that you guys are invited for the Superbowl in HD. Of course your spouses or girlfriends, but not both together, are invited. Just let me know.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:30 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Change Below to above... I was thinking about the fact that it was below the top of the ankle brace. Tibia ends at meleolus.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 9:30 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Darian: Sounds reasonable. Let me see when I will be able to come over in the next week or two. Thank you for the invitation.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 9:22 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
OUCH!
Darian: Wow... sounds like your team is the vollyball version of the Golden State Warriors!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
OUCH!
Arrived at volleyball scrimage last night. There was a match before ours and 3 of my team mates had shown up early. (No way was I going to be torn away from JAG!) So I walk in and someone runs over to me and says.. "Your setter is hurt." I was standing next to our starting setter and then our secondary ran past us to the bathroom. Now I was confused because both of them looked fine to me. "Its number 10 from your team." I ran over to the court to find our marque player lying on the floor screaming. I was thinking... "How could he have sprained an ankle? He wares those braces when he plays."
Well as I get closer I notice the blood all over the ground. Part of his tibia is sticking out of his leg just below the medial melelous. This is right on the heels of a conversation Sunday about not attending tournaments without teh 6 primary starters. That means I currently am missing 3 starters from 6. The odd thing.. not a one of them got injuried playing with the team. They all got hurt playing around with other teams or playing basketball. 2 are now done for at the least... a year.
And the hits just keep on comming!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:07 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Cai: Figure out a time to come out my way and check out the Shampoo. It is currently on the floor. This way you can go by what your eyes see rather than the reviews.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:06 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Joe: We use ChannelMaster and so forth for signal modulators at work. What is it you need. If we have it or can get it I will hook you up.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 9:05 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Curtis: Emailed you yesterday... did you get it?
AVB ( 64.41.32.233 ) at 7:43 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
BIG AL: Yes, I have Yahoo email and it has been very steady over the years.
JBC ( 207.164.221.205 ) at 6:50 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Good morning evryone...
Ron H ( 63.26.164.62 ) at 4:31 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Good morning all.
Rich ( 205.188.197.31 ) at 1:22 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Need Computer Help
Joe: Gateway offers 24/7 toll free tech support. They will solve your problem...
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 12:29 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Panasonic HDTV under $2000
Here's a tad more for those interested:
Panasonic broke the price barrier in rear-projection HDTVs with its new PT-47WX49, a 47-inch 16:9 rear-projection HDTV monitor that carries an unbelievable list price of just $2000.
The set, which will natively display only 480p and 1080i, sports dual-tuner, split-screen PIP (picture-in-picture); a new 9-point user convergence system; BBE sound with 15 watts per channel of audio power; and a new backlit remote control.
The PT-47WX49 has a bigger brother: the PT-56WX51 has all its sibling's features, plus a larger, 56-inch screen and a list price of $3500. Both models are scheduled for delivery to dealers in July.
Since the inception of HDTV more than two years ago, Panasonic has led the industry with the only consumer RPTVs that could natively display 720p HDTV signals.
Unfortunately, none of the new Panasonic RPTV HDTV monitors will display 720p signals natively. In attempt to bring prices down -- and because 720p broadcast support is so meager -- Panasonic opted to take out the higher horizontal scanning rate necessary to accommodate 720p.
That's a sad thing, especially since ABC recently began 720p broadcasts here in NYC, with the season premiere of NYPD Blue.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.33 ) at 12:07 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
That really ticks me off! Looks like I need a different back-up e-mail. This is the third e-mail thats disapeared in a couple months.
AVB; You've still got Yahoo e-mail right? Any problems with yours?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.33 ) at 12:03 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Joe; That e-mail is still current as my back-up. I hardly ever check it, but when I did, your e-mail wasn't there. I don't know why. If you can re-send to my other e-mail, I'd apreciate it. I'm VERY sorry about that. I really need to update my bio. Send to this one
Gar ( 169.207.194.173 ) at 12:00 AM EST Tuesday, January 23, 2001
Non HT most. Just picked up a Treadmill, researched these bastards for the last month or so. Wanted a Precor, but my pocket book wasn't that thick! hahaha. Used to run track in College and High School but since I had the little one I put on about 25 extra pounds. So went out a bought a Reebok Treadmill, built like a 300lb tank, and let me tell you I broke my back trying to haul this thing in the house, now I am on 800mg of Advil, just to relieve the pain. So much for try this thing out this week. Well anyway I get the thing down the stairs and into the room, and my friend says your ceilings don't look high enough to be running on the treadmill, I am like shitting in my pants at this point! You got to be kidding, lucky for me I am 6'2 if I was 5 inches taller I would be kissing the ceiling while running......
Gar ( 169.207.194.173 ) at 11:53 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
cai: The Toshiba on DVD is fantastic, on good HD material it really shines, on cable, well! You know what I thing about cable...(o)
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 11:48 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Greetings from sunny, warm Puerto Rico.
It's a company retreat. Team building crap like that. I have to go help my team in the tequilla contest.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.79 ) at 11:40 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
woops
Kieran: I hope you're nudging Curtis about that box he said he'd be sending this way...
Kieran ( 206.170.7.159 ) at 11:23 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
woops
Last post was from me, not about me!
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.159 ) at 11:22 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Kieran
Well, I'm online here at Curtis' house. Let me vouch for him... he's got about 70 Dell laptops stacked up in his den. If the cops came by, they wouldn't even ask, they'd just cuff him and bring him in!
cai: I can't speak for Curtis, but his house would be the place to meet. He's only about 20 minutes from SFO. I live about 90 minutes north of SFO in Sonoma County. I'm only down here right now because of a bussiness trip. Anyway, if it works out, I'd love to try to hook up with you and Curtis when the time comes.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 10:56 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Curtis & Kieran: Next month I am going to be in Fresno from the 20 to the 22. I will be spending the night of the 22 in San Francisco and flying back early the next morning. If any of you in NOCAL want to get together for a drink or dinner, let me know. I'll be staying at the Airport Hilton in SF.
AVB ( 64.41.33.141 ) at 10:35 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Need Computer Help
Joe: Check if you have bi-directional support set up in your bios. Many brands give you the option to change the output of the printer port depending on the printer you have.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 10:25 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Need Computer Help
Joe: Looks like its time for a cheap print server.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.124 ) at 9:53 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Need Computer Help
Joe: No, seriously... to check if a cable or box is bi-directional, you need to use an ohmmeter to check to make sure all the pins are connected through. Some cables/boxes only connect the "needed" pins, if they are older cables/boxes
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.124 ) at 9:49 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Need Computer Help
Joe: Cai has a good point... are you selecting the correct printer in Windows? Every printer brand (and many different model lines) have their own driver language... If you don't tell the computer which printer you have selected, you DO get gibberish. As for checking if the box is bi... I dunno... leave it in a room with both male and female boxes and see if it does something with both.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 9:37 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Joe: I would worry more about the cables being bi-directional. If what you have is a printer switching box chances are that it is bi-directional. Also, make sure that the printer you select is the one that is on-line or otherwise you will get gibberish.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 9:22 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
GAR: You asked about the rest of the review on your Toshiba TV. Well, they liked it very much and recommended it highly. One of the reasons I asked the questions, is because sometimes reviewers test equipment under conditions that consumers never attempt. Another reason is that seldom one is able to test the equipment at the store under optimum conditions. In the case of TVs, they either do not hook them up to DVDs, satellites, or HD transmissions. Another drawback is that the sets are not calibrated and the dealers do not let you do it. I rather hear from someone who uses the equipment, rather than believe everything that I read from the reviewers.
Joe ( 205.188.192.42 ) at 9:21 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Is anyone here tonight?
Joe ( 205.188.199.171 ) at 7:10 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Need Computer Help
Scott "popcorn": How do I know if the box is Bi?
Joe ( 205.188.199.171 ) at 7:08 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Repost
I am trying to find online source for Channel vision, channel plus channel master.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.124 ) at 7:08 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Need Computer Help
Joe: The switchbox must be Bi-directional. I don't have a problem with Mom's computer running through a bi-di switchbox with an HP DJ-895C and an HP LJ2100. If that's not the problem, then make sure all the cables between the computer and printers are also bi-directional capable too.
Joe ( 205.188.199.171 ) at 7:00 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
I should add, that he went to Gateway. Showed them the software and what the software companey required for a system. He does not know a thing a computers.
Joe ( 205.188.199.171 ) at 6:58 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Need Computer Help
I am having problems with a system at my brothers EMS base. It is used for billing. IT is a Gateway P3 800. It has 2 printers which is the problem.
One printer is a Epson forms printer, the other a HP 1100 Laser. The tech set it up as follows. IF you want to use the Laser plug it in. If you want to use the forms printer unplug the laser and plug in the epson.
I tried using a Belkin switch box. I use this box on my system using a Laser 4l and color printer.
When I try the switch box I cannot get anything out of the laser, except gobby goo The lines of code I assume across the top of many pages.
I was told by a EE I worked with you could not run a laser though a switch box, is this true?
If I cannot hook both of these up to the printer port at once, what is a solution?
Joe ( 205.188.199.171 ) at 6:51 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
BIG AL: I sent it a week ago to the addy listed on the members page. Have you changed your addy?
JBC ( 207.164.221.214 ) at 5:12 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Kieran: CuRTis will not be able toc all you as he is, and will continue to be, much too busy with his FP prep work!
Kieran ( 63.36.205.141 ) at 5:03 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
No internet access this week
Well, this very well may be my only post until Saturday... I'm going to go through serious withdrawl, folks!
CuRTis: I just sent you an email, and left you a v.mail at your home number. Don't email me, but give me a call when you get a moment. Thanks.
Ron H ( 63.61.199.142 ) at 4:53 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Darian: It sounds like the install from hell. Not a great way to spend the weekend.
Darian ( 66.44.8.135 ) at 3:53 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Big Al: Actually... this guy never let me or anyone else come out to check out his setup or planning. I arrived there to find a mess of junk cables and a few cables that predated me. There were 3 decent quality cables... I mean Acoutic Research Level. All these cables were from the boxes of the gear or from a old system they guy got from his father. If I asked this guy about cabeling he wouldn't have had a clue. I had to strip out a video cable to get a coax connector... problem being that the cable was 25 feet long. Its real simple. I needed 3 meter lenths and 1 meter lenths. I needed on 25 foot run to get to the sub. All I had was 2 meter lenths. So the wiring is kind of messy as I had to stretch things from one point to another. I did however manage to keep it all behind the rack or the TV.
One of the units had this messed up lockout switch for the video switching. It took me about 30 mins to figure out why it didn't work. I didn't charge him for the time it took me to read the manual. No good dead.
Ron H ( 63.61.208.15 ) at 3:13 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
BIG AL: Some people were very rude to Bob, but he is a big boy.
Ron H ( 63.61.208.15 ) at 3:02 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
JBC: If you get a chance give me a call at the office.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.67 ) at 2:48 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Darian; Tough weekend! I hope the jerk you did the install for at least gave you a tip!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.67 ) at 2:47 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Joe; Sorry, meant to post my e-mail. try this
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.67 ) at 2:43 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Rich; My memory doesn't serve me at all! I can barely remember yesterday, but I remember getting tired of Bob's commercials. I don't remember anyone being rude to him though. I thought everyone told him straight out that we'd love to have him stick around, just leave the adds at a more appropriate site. Oh well, at this point I don't care who posted what. CuRTis and AVB have saved more money on HT buys in the last couple years than I'll spend on HT in my lifetime. I think maybe we should ban them from posting the prices they pay!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:34 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
Rich: Yea, I am a little weary of buying used equip. too. That's one of the great things about this place!
My friend knows I take care of my stuff so he would feel better buying from me. He just has to convince his wife that he needs 2 TN61X81's. I am going to do my best to help too!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.67 ) at 2:32 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Joe; Nope! No mail at this end.
JBC ( 207.164.221.185 ) at 2:21 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Ron H: Bob is going to love hearing that you have lost interest in the Cinepro. This should really make his day!
Rich ( 205.188.197.33 ) at 2:00 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
BC: I would never consider buying a used rptv and yet last summer i bought one An Elite 51" PRO-100, However all my terms for considering a used set had to be right or else i would have passed including: i purchased it from Tweeter and recieved full factory warranty, the set was purchased new from Tweeter just 2 months prior to returning it to trade up for an HDTV, the price was very right, he paid $4300 i paid 2k, i was assured by the store mgr that the customer that purchased the set was a very frequent customer and had a very good reputation of taking good care of his gear. imo the most important of my considerations was not price or even warranty it was the set being used in a home and not a store demo being on for 18hrs a day with paused still frames and everyone adjusting it. Obviously i have much less of a problem with used gear than demo gear , just my .02
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.22 ) at 1:10 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
T-Man: Whew,I can see both sides of the equation. I haven't done much research on the HD question but it seems like a pretty good deal. I do understand the "hesitation" to pull the trigger though. Having said that,I'm not sure what I would have done,I mean with Mrs.T standing there giving the green light. Tough call. One thing about non-buyers remorse though,it is a lot easier to correct or rectify than buyers remorse.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 1:02 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
... then again there are ways that wives show their appreciation for getting stuff they like that can't hold a candle to the enjoyment any HT would bring.
However the HT will "perform" every single night for you. YMMV
Darian ( 66.44.8.135 ) at 1:01 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
As a tech that works for dealers... IT DOES HAPPEN A LOT!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 12:59 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
RickMTB: LOL! How true.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.198 ) at 12:40 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
CuRTis: "Don't laugh, I have seen this happen too many times. Now you tell me what you're going to get more enjoyment from - dining room furniture or a killer HD display/ receiver?"
Spoken like a true bachelor...
T-Man ( 216.151.65.133 ) at 12:31 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
CuRTis: Points well taken. I will say that I am lucky that, while my wife does not share the same level as my enthusiasm for the hobby, she does share my enjoyment of watching movies on a good system. (Even though she falls asleep about 50% of the time!)
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 12:23 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
BC: I have no idea but would think 50% of new is fair market value. Just don't undercut Darian's price on the RP he's putting on the market!
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 12:21 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
T-Man: Those are both outstanding RP's for the money. If you think the Tosh looked good at BB, just wait til you see one properly setup - the same holds true for the Pioneer.
Are you aware that not all wives give the green light for such major purchases? I say go for it before she decides that the cash is better spent on something like a new dining room set! Don't laugh, I have seen this happen too many times. Now you tell me what you're going to get more enjoyment from - dining room furniture or a killer HD display/ receiver?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 12:15 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
What would you guys say is a fair price to sell my TN61X81 for? It has been isf'd. They sold for $3299 at the stores. The new model at BB is the same price I believe.
T-Man ( 216.151.65.133 ) at 12:00 PM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Speaking of HDTV and 16:9
This morning I have non-buyers remorse. Saturday I was in Best Buy with my wife. They had the Toshiba 56H80 (I think that's the right number) at $3999 less a $500 instant rebate. It is a 56" HDTV ready, 16:9 RPTV and the picture looked great. They also had the DTC100 for around $500. To top it off, with the purchase of any RPTV, they would throw in a $200 Toshiba DVD player for free. (I would love to have a second DVD player for room 2) Deliver was $35 and I would get it on Wednesday. My wife is saying go ahead and buy it! I DIDN'T! I just was having trouble pulling the trigger on a purchase of that size when I haven't really done any research. That and they had a 53" Pioneer HDTV ready, 16:9 that also looked great (but for $500 more). Oh well.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.165 ) at 11:52 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Joe: The requests are in the back of my mind. I think the replacements for them will be out this year so I would think I could pick up a floor model for a discounted price. I then could move my SL3s to the rear and keep the Tripoles on the sides.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:50 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
I am going to research things a little. Who knows. If my friend is serious about buying my set, I may look into an LCD or DLP. (Jeez, I even know exactly how I could set everything up.)
The cost to go to an FP compared to a 65" 16:9 (or something in that area) really isn't all that much.
Ron, which DLP was it that you tried?
Seems the sony and the infocus 350 get most of the great reviews lately.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.165 ) at 11:43 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
CuRTis/BC: Up till this year I thought Toshiba had the best picture. currently I think the Pioneers are better but a a $$$$. When we did our Houston HT trip I seem to remember Rich, and Rick agreeing also.
I do not have any brand loyality for any product. I try to get the best product possible at least that I can afford. If I replaced my Pioneer RP last year with a HD 16:9 RP it definetly would not have been a Pioneer.
With that said, for the cost of another RP a front projector would be a serious consideration. Either one of the current DLP's, LCDs or if you have some control of light and have the room a CRT projector.
While a CRT in most cases will produce the best picture I know at this time you live in a apartment and the portability of a DLP or LCD would be quite apealing.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 11:34 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
BC: Good points. I'm sure I'll have no problem selling my TW65 locally. It's just that I would rather see it go to a good home where it would be appreciated rather than going back to see the new owner cranking contrast, brightness and sharpness way too high.
Go for a FP if you have tight light control. We'll start a club or something!
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:22 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
CuRTis: I can get 12 months, no interest locally. hehe
A friend just said, "why bother with another RP, why don't you just get that big projection screen thingy". hummmmmmm If you can't take a friends advice, whos advice can you take?
Darian ( 66.44.8.135 ) at 11:09 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
I have begun the transition. I have a Direct View set. Now I need to move the 61HS10 that I had ISFed on to a good home. One that is done I can get started on my seconday projector that will be used for movie night! Anyone know anyone in my area that would like a big HD ready screen??? MD
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 11:04 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
BC: I have an excellent/ inexpensive mover based out of GA who drives right past you weekly. Next objection pls?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 11:01 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
CuRTis: Getting it to Dallas would be the hard part!
Joe ( 64.12.102.151 ) at 10:53 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Ron H : Are you starting to talk yourself into new ML's? If the amp is working, stay with it.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 10:53 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
Ron H : You (Pioneer) Eliteist! I like them a lot but not as much as the Tosh when properly dialed in. We all have our opinions I suppose. Funny how they match what we happen to own, huh?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.31 ) at 10:50 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
BC:The consensus here is that you should by my Toshiba 65" 16:9 RP ;-)In perfect shape (the HD problem I had the other day was my kid hitting a reset key, all's back to beautiful now).
Shameless selling on the forum, I know.
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 10:36 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Ron H : Mornin' Ron. Guess I am a little curious... I thought the Sunfire was a pretty gutsy amp to begin with, and in the short time I have had a chance to listen to your system certainly was impressed with the sound. I know the Cinepro is a tank and all, but was there something that the Sunfire was doing to warrant the change?
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 10:31 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
Ron H : At the moment, I don't get HDTV. My watching habits are probably 50/50 but if I were watching 4:3 material on a 16:9, I would probably use one of the stretch modes. I guess I need to look into the different stretch modes and see if I like them.
Wild Bill ( 63.48.108.163 ) at 10:19 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Good morning all.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.165 ) at 10:13 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
BC: The Pioneer Elite is superior to all the others. It is a thing to marvel.
Ron H ( 63.61.205.165 ) at 10:11 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
BC: Do you have access to HD TV? Or will DVD's be your only source of 16:9 programming. Do consider, that if most of what you view is 4:3, how much smaller the picture will be than you are currently use to. Do you want to watch football with a smaller picture than you currently have?
also be aware of the concerns with burn in on these TV's. All the manufactures will not honor warrantee repairs for this problem. You may want to consider a 4:3 that handle 16:9 properly and also does anamorhpic. IMHO.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:52 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
good morning gang!
good morning guys.
Need some opinions - A friend wants to buy a used big screen to go in his downstairs ent. center (which holds a big screen). I offered mine (TN61X81)thinking I could then go for a 65" 16:9. Should I do it? If so, what's the concensus on the best out right now, sony, pioneer, toshiba, mits?
Ron H ( 63.61.208.18 ) at 9:41 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
JBC:I am begining to think that my Sunfire may be fine for my HT usage. I have had not glitches in a long time. Plus I am tired of waiting for Cinepro to get this product ready and their continueed revised delivery dates. Maybe I should put the Cinepro money toward something else like a color Pronto or a larger set of MLs.
Darian ( 66.44.8.135 ) at 9:26 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
JBC: Thanks for the kind words. This guy was a friend of a friend of my boss. You know you have to go see that guy.
Darian ( 66.44.8.135 ) at 9:23 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Hell Weekend Part 2
So its 3:30 when it is deemed safe for me to go to sleep. (After exposure to cold you have to be warmed). The Whole area is pretty well covered in snow. My car is stuck in a ditch 25 miles from home accidents were occuring while we drove home. THERE IS NO FRELLING WAY THAT MY TOURNAMNET ON SUNDAY IS GONNA HAPPEN.
I awake at 6:30AM and I mean really awake like I know I am supposed to be doing somethng. My teammates were supposed to pick me up at 7:00 to travel to the tournament. I had all my stuff ready to go but I was in no condition to play. Noone ever came. At 8:30AM I decided it was time to get on AAA about my car. "2 Hours for a truck." Fine... what else am I gonna do. Guy calls in 10 mins and says... "Hey, you called AAA? I can be at your car in 15 mins." I explained that I was nowhere near my car and that it would take like 30 mins to get there. The guy said no problem and that he would meet me there. 32 mins later we arrive at my car and the tow guy is getting set up. We winched it out in a odd manner to keep from tearing the front end off. Car extracted and minimal damage from the look of it. Fill out the AAA forms and tip the guy. Drive off for home. On the ride home I find that my car becomes very unhappy at 45 mph and above. Will have to get that looked at.
Walk in the front door to my house at 10:35AM. "Hey someone called you and I accidently hung up on them. Get the number from the call log and call them back." So I call back the last incomming number. "Where the hell are you! We just forfited out first match because we only have 5 players here!" Yup the tournament did infact not only happen but it started on time. Do to some confussion between the Captain and one of the players... both thought the other was picking me up. Noone called me to confirm and I sure as crap couldn't drive to Leesburg at under 45mph the whole way.
Kitten steped to the plate again. Mind you we both only had about 3 hours of sleep. I had had my wonderfull stroll in the snow only a few hours earlier. She offered to drive me out to the tournament. Putting her life on hold to take care of my team and me. We drove for the nessesary hour plus to get there. Once we got to the site, we parked in the wrong lot and I had to run to about 1/2 a mile to get to the gym.
I ran throught the doors of the gym just as our match warm up time started. I had 5 mins to try to get ready to play volleyball. Then I looked at the team. 2 players I never play with or practice with are on the court. And one of them is in the position where our big guy goes. We got creamed! After the match I ran to the bathroom and threw up the food I had eaten for Lunch on Saturday... I hadn't eaten since all the mess started. as I narowly missed hitting my uniform and shoes I demmed it a good idea to turn on the shower I was standing in. After a quick rinse I felt a little better.
Next match starts and we are playing better but not anywhere near where we should be. Other teams were laughing at us. The fight had completely left the team that was there. The 2 subs both were awful. One was rust as he had not played in 4 months. While the other had a horrible attitiude and refused to put any effort into any of this. When he plays the team never advances to play offs. Well today was no different. We lost a lot more than we won and in my mind... forfiting all the watches and me staying home would have been preferable. When I arrived at the tournamnet they had 6 players. I don't know when the other guy showed or who was late. The fact was.. I sure as hell did not need to be out there in that state.
After all was said and done... Kitten took me to her house where we had dinner and then sent me off to the Metro. Got a ride home from the MEtro and laid down to die. So today I guess I hae to get started on trying to get my car fixed.
Scott Veirs ( 146.135.120.124 ) at 9:18 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Good morning.
Been away for a while, looks like much to catch up on.
Hope everyone is having a good new year.
JBC ( 207.164.221.50 ) at 9:13 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Darian: You need a better class of client -- I would have put you up, fed you and even offered you some of my primo scotch!!
Darian ( 66.44.8.135 ) at 8:57 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Hell Weekend Part 1
As for the converstaion about sales. I only reply to people who ask about getting stuff. On the iScan Pro, I didn't even know what they cost was going to be. I approximated a price that I thought we could get some at. The preorder thing was so some of the members who just couldn't wait.. could get units soon. As for other things I think I contribute a bit more than just a large... for sale sign. Infact I have sold a lot of stuff for Bob. People feel comfotable asking me all about a product then going to him... Whatever. I won't even go into how many emails I have about gear that I sell that people went somewhere else. TRAVIS!
I wasn't going away mad on Saturday. Just going to work. I arrived at the clients house at about 4:30 and went to work on assembeling this guys HT. He had equipment from a bunch of different maufactures and I was only familiar with the RCA sats. The rest of the stuff... noone I contract for uses. So I was working on everything as fast as I could. Come 9:30 I was finished. I got my check and headed for the door. Loaded up my stuff and went to drive off. Well it had snowed heavely and I couldn't make at the edge of teh drive way. This hose is in booneyville MD and my car slipped off into the ditch when I was tring to pull back onto the driveway. The ditch has running watter in it, and my tires sunk right in. There was no breaking free. I wne inside and asked if anyone could help me push. Couldn't do a thing and called AAA.
"100 mins. we will call you 5 mins before the truck gets there." The client was nice enough to just ignore me as he watched a movie on his new system. I made calls to home as Kitten was there waiting for me to return. Come 11:30 I was still waiting for the truck. I called AAA again and they wouldn't answer the phone. Emailed Kitten and she checked onthe status of the truck and they said... "On the way and will call 5 mins before." I hung up and the phone flashed voicemail... Well you guessed it there was a voicmail from the truck driver saying, "I don't work in weather." I fired of an Email to Kitten on my portable unit explaining the situation. She contacted AAA and they said.. Ohh yeah there is a note in our file to call him and tell him to wait till morning. Kitten complained about the fact that they told me that someone would come get me. "There is another guy who will come but he is in college park and will be there in 45 mins." You can't get to where I was from there in 45 mins without snow.
The client askedme to leave but told me I could leave the car where it was. Figuring I could get it towed in the morning. Kitten asked AAA if they were sure the next guy was going to come... I knew it was a bout 3 miles from where I was to a shopping center on a main road that would be plowed. I called a taxi to see if I could get a ride and they said... "We are not doing pick ups now." waite with the car untill 1:00.
Took a wrong turn in the bumpkin neighbor hood and finally found my way to a road I knew. Walked 4+ miles to the shopping center and had Kitten meet me there. (She has 4 wheel drive.) 2:45 in the morning we meet up and I look like a popsicle. We drive home over some crappy roads and get back at about 3:20AM. There we wrecked cars all over the place on the way home....
Ron H ( 63.61.201.204 ) at 8:00 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Good Morning all.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:15 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Good morning gang...
Gar ( 169.207.194.243 ) at 12:55 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
cai
You might want to take a look at AudioReviews, review page on TV. It has the Toshiba in there. Reason I bought the set, it fit into the cabinet, the Wega wouldn't. Set looks great on DVD, and I have seen it on HDTV using a DCT-100 and it looked fantastic. And for $1200, I couldn't pass it up. With the way HDTV is going you don't know what is going to be compatible with most of these new sets. Downside to the Toshiba is Very Slow Channel changing and input changing. Otherwise not a bad set for the price. Best bet is to view the set with a DVD signal and a HDTV Signal if you can. I did.
Gar ( 169.207.194.243 ) at 12:44 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
iScan Connections
cai: I will need a converter then, because I have no room to run cables to the 10HT. So I will need something that converts it.
Gar ( 169.207.194.243 ) at 12:42 AM EST Monday, January 22, 2001
Toshiba CN36X81
cai: I don't have a HD Feed going to the unit yet. But with the ad of most Box top HD Tuners I heard that isn't too much of a problem, infact Toshiba is working on a tuner for that set as I write this. What was there over all impression of the unit? Doesn't sound good, but I take things with
a grain of salt when it comes to reviews.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.183 ) at 11:11 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
the lone exception being the DCT100. It's already a steal at list.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.183 ) at 10:52 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
AVB: I shall wear my (temporary) crown with pride, sir. I simply refuse to pay list price for anything and it has helped to put together a pretty good HT on a shoestring.
Cytotech ( 207.223.165.243 ) at 10:21 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Home Theater Stuff on HGTV
cai: A fairly informative show.... But (as previously mentioned) mostly about the steps involved in building one, and different ways of incorporating it into your living space. No real mentions of brands or the various technologies.
But man! That room REALLY deserved a Crestron!
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.183 ) at 9:57 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
you don't have to like tennis
... to enjoy what's now on ESPN2. Anna-candy
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 8:28 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Home Theater Stuff on HGTV
Chris L.: What, is this show in HD? Why is everyone in this forum all of a sudden interested in the Home and Garden channel? Wild Bill you are forgiven, being a semi-invalid at this time, you are bound to spend a lot of time in front of the tube. Ha, ha, ha.
I will not only watch it, but tape it. Just so that I do not miss anything.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.150 ) at 8:26 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Home Theater Stuff on HGTV
Wild Bill: LOL! When I saw the ad for it this morning I thought, "Oh great...more temptations.
BTW..watched the 'Se7en' special edition last night. I was actually a bit disappointed in both the audio and video of this disc. The dialogue seemed very muffled and the video was dark. I know this is a dark film as I have the previous release but was expecting a little more since I've been hearing nothing but praise for this disc. ::shrug::
AVB ( 64.41.32.251 ) at 8:05 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
CuRTis: I have to say that it beat the hell out of the $3 grand for a $29,000 projector I just installed. A lot less hours too. You now have the crown of HT shopping guru. I thought my VMPS towers would hold that title for a while. I guess they still do because they are current models I got for 22% of list.
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.183 ) at 8:02 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
AVB: Agreed that they aren't the most reliable FP's on the planet but at this price it's nearly disposable. I have located at least 3 parts sources that seem reasonable. Low hours on the CRT's is what pushed me over the edge. I can handle a bithcy FP if it puts up a killer image when it is working.
Not everyone gets the AVB seal of approval on FP buys.
Wild Bill ( 63.48.107.235 ) at 7:55 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Home Theater Stuff on HGTV
Chris L.: You preemped me! LOL! I meant to post this but kept forgetting. I'll be watching the show at 9 PM also.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.250 ) at 7:40 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Home Theater Stuff on HGTV
9pm....looks cool. Could be goofy though. I doubt they go any deeper than room design but it might be good for ideas.
AVB ( 64.41.33.58 ) at 7:22 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Scott: I've had full range speakers for all 5 for a number of years. The fronts are -3db @ 13hz, the rears -3db @16 hz and the sub is -3db @14 hz. I can't say that all are in the absolute best position but it works.
CHC: Ampros are know to break down and are a bitch to fix. Not one of the better brands in FPs and that is why they didn't last. For $700 it is worth having even if it dies a year from now. Great buy!
CuRTis ( 206.170.7.183 ) at 7:16 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Help me talk this guy outta this monster
Last years 73" Mitsu 73" 4:3 RP. The dude who was going to buy my TW65H80 is thinking of this beast at 2 x the price I'll sell him mine for. I know 2 things; 1) it's a 4:3 and 2) it can't hold a candle to mine for HD/ anamorphic DVD. Is the Mits even HD capable?
TIA
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:52 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Toshiba CN36X81
Gar: I believe you said you own this HDTV monitor. If you have the May 2000 issue of SGHT, where this unit is reviewed, can you explain to me if what is mentioned on page 63, concerning the inability of this unit to display anamorphic DVD images undistorted is correct. They say that the image has to be letterboxed by the set-top box, in which case the display loses definition. If this letterboxing is not done, according to the article, the image is squeezed and distorted. The article goes as far as to say that "high-definition programming is essentially unwatchable".
Let me know your comments. Thanks.
Joe ( 64.12.105.29 ) at 6:17 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Channel Plus
Anyone know where these products are sold online?
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.229 ) at 5:10 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Sony Hawaii golf now in HD
FYI all you HD golfers. CBS is showing great stuff all weekend. This is the 1st sports broadcast where they seem to be using single announcers, replays, graphics for both 4:3 SD and 16:9 HD. This is a huge leap as it will bring production costs way down.
I'm not even much of a golf fan & I can't tear myself away. The warm Hawaiian scenery doesn't hurt either.
Joe ( 205.188.198.183 ) at 5:03 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Afternoon all,
Big Al did you get my E-Mail?
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 4:25 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
swith = switch
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 4:24 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
iScan Connections
Wild Bill: The new iScan has the following input connections:
1 composite - cable
1 component - DVD
1 s-video - satellite
The only output is an RGB/YPbPr 15 pin connection, so a converter is needed if the monitor does not take this kind of cable. There is a swith in the front where one selects RGB or YPbPr.
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.229 ) at 4:15 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Still have an extra screen laying around
Ron H: Tks anyway my friend, I'm looking for a 16:9 in about the 100" range.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.228 ) at 2:19 PM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
name change, yet again
CuRTis: 
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.229 ) at 11:39 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
name change, yet again
Scott "popcorn": It means u is in trouble for making fun of me.
Gar ( 169.207.193.228 ) at 11:19 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Darian, do you still own that Sony S-3000, how does that unit look with the iScan? I have a guy locally that wants to sell me one cheap.
Gar ( 169.207.193.228 ) at 10:56 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
FP Specs
CHC: Got an E-mail from the jmudler saying thanks for posting the FYI on this board. He said you were a cool person to work with and were working out the details on shipping...
Ron H ( 63.26.163.140 ) at 10:07 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
JBC: Thanks
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:48 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Ron H: There is a picture of the Greyhawk at SMR!!
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:04 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Good morning gang...
Ron H ( 63.26.163.250 ) at 5:37 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Still have an extra screen laying around
CHC: I still have a 100" diagonal 4:3 left over. I have sold the 16:9.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.250 ) at 5:34 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
God Morning all.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.233 ) at 5:00 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
name change, yet again
CuRTis: yeah, but what does "uis" mean? (by the way, you should have some e-mail)
CuRTis ( 206.170.6.242 ) at 4:28 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
name change, yet again
Like my new name?
CHC ( 206.171.33.66 ) at 1:56 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Still have an extra screen laying around
Ron H: The title says it all. Got anything for me?
CHC ( 206.171.33.66 ) at 1:55 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
FP Specs
Miss me boys? I really do have a life contrary to published reports! FYI here are the specs on my new baby - said to be exactly the same as the product listed on the right margin of this data sheet.
http://www.elitevision.com/spec_3600_4600.htm
WB: Pls advise the best HTPC setup to use on such a beast?
Rich ( 152.163.197.179 ) at 1:33 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
sales
BIG AL: If my memory is correct i think some of the posts in here were a little bit stronger than friendly requests about selling his product lines. Infact i think he was treated very unfairly simply because he only mentioned a product or price info when asked by one of us... imo
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.51 ) at 12:44 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Although Derb is pushing it! Is that 2 or 4 cycle?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.51 ) at 12:42 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Scott pop; The sales page revisions, and DVD trader are great ideas. Hop to it!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.51 ) at 12:38 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
sales
Whenever someone here mentioned a product that Bob sold, he would jump in with a post about his price, and add a few other items he had for sale. He would also post a weekly specials list. It was like having a used car salesman on the forum, and that's what was objected to. Nobody has even come close to as far as he went. Enough people objected to make it an issue. I had no problem with Bob as a person. Friendly, intelligent, and knowledgable, but as soon as a request was made to tone down the sales, he disapeared. To me this says that's all he was here for, free advertising.
Wild Bill wasn't comparing anyone to Bob, just a cautionary reminder. All of us are here as friends first, as it should be.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.51 ) at 12:23 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Tony C; Thanks for the offer! I apreciate it, but I was raised to never loan out tools, so I always feel guilty borrowing them. You are a gentleman and a scholar for offering though!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.233 ) at 12:16 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
cai: Makes sense
Gar ( 169.207.194.11 ) at 12:12 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Curtis, I found a guy selling the iScan Pros for $675, not too bad of a price so I am biting on this one. I hope it is as good as they say.. I will be using a PS2 on it for awhile till I find another S-7700 or maybe a S-7000 to hook it up too.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 12:01 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
Scott "popcorn": I guess you have not heard about the rolling power blackouts in California or better yet, he is probably at one of the GW Bush balls on Washington DC, hob nobbing with his contacts lobbying for more HDTV over the air programming. After all, he is smart enough to be a Republican. HA, ha, ha, ha
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.233 ) at 12:00 AM EST Sunday, January 21, 2001
trav1: peep?
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 11:50 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
peep. peep.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.233 ) at 11:20 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Sure is quiet here tonight... what happened to Curtis?
Kieran ( 172.169.90.111 ) at 7:50 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
OT: Almost in an accident the other day....
I'm the kind of guy, who when mountain biking, or hiking or whatever, and I see a pile of equestrian (or other animal) feces, I yell out, "AHH, SHIT!!!" or something of that nature. Usually my buddies get it, and laugh or chime in on key. Sometimes I say it with a new person, and they call out, "what? are you okay?" Then they see the pile and laugh.
So, along these lines, I do something else similar, that almost got a friend and I in a car accident the other day. We were driving along, and there was this beat up Lincoln driving in front of us in the next lane over. On it's nasty bumper was a beat up bumper sticker that simply said, "JESUS". So, being me, I pointed to it, and cried out, "JESUS!!!!!" Well, my friend didn't get it, and slammed on his brakes thinking I saw something he didn't (which was true, in a sense). Well, I caught on really quickly, and said, "no, no!! go, go!!!" urging him to let off the brakes and accellerate. He did, and the car behind us narrowly missed smashing into us. Had they hit us, I think we'd have been taken in under suspicion of insurance fraud or something.
My poor friend, I still don't think he got the joke. Oh well. I didn't realize he was such a timid driver, either... I felt really bad. I think from now on, I'll limit my shenanigans to friends whom I know get the joke.
Kieran ( 172.169.90.111 ) at 7:21 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
VRE up yet?
CHC: Yes, it's working. I haven't had a chance to really A/B it yet though... so I don't know if I need/want to keep it. Why, do you want it back, or just curious?
Cajun Mike ( 172.143.225.218 ) at 7:05 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Meet the Parents preorder
I just ordered a bunch of DVD's from Buy.com. They are pre-selling "Meet the Parents". It's due on March 6th. That has to be the funniest movie I've seen in years. Personally I rate it higher than "Something about Mary". I also ordered the AVIA DVD, Jurassic Park DTS, Hoosiers, Frampton in Concert (DTS) and CaddyShack. DVDpricesearch shows that Buy.com is currently the least expensive when buying multiple DVD's. Anyone know what the holdup is on "The Natural"?
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 6:34 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
animation
Not that any of this pertains to HT, or for that matter, the rules here, but boy, has animation come a long way since I was a kid. Check out this trailer. http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/final_fantasy/trailer_hi.html
GAR ( 208.176.45.102 ) at 4:25 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
DOH!!!!
That be "DERB"!!
GAR ( 208.176.45.102 ) at 4:24 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
COOL DEB, I will take it!hahahaha
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.192 ) at 4:01 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
For Sale
Derb: HAHAHAHAHA!
Derb ( 199.174.4.174 ) at 3:54 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
For Sale
Lawn Mower, 3.5 hp, push, used only every weekend for the past 20 years. $300.00 Blade and Lawn Bag are extra, Needs new wheel for left front.
Comes with free set of head phones Awia This makes it HT
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 3:51 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Tony C: I will call you in twnety to thirty minutes to discuss one or two items, including sub caliabration. To answer your question though, you set the SPL to 70 to cover the range of 70 to 80. Setting it to 80 would not work as you would be covering the range of 80 to 90.
Gar, Others: Been to the SimAudio webpage lately. Seems there is a new moon line of HT products. They look very cool and, knowing Sim, they probably sound great!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 3:19 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Sub Calibration
When using a RCA SPL meeter and calibrating a sub, do you set the range to 80 instead of 70?
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 3:13 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
VRE up yet?
Kieran: Did you ever get that VRE hooked up?
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 2:53 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: Email inbound.
Gar ( 169.207.192.171 ) at 2:53 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Pop that would be cool, if someone has something for sale we can just direct them to the sale board, and then they can take care of it by E-mail.
Cool by me.......
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.192 ) at 2:51 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Selling on the forum...
My opinion on the selling on the forum is that it's ok IF... You don't shove ads down our throats... if you have a good deal on an item, just give it a mention, then take it to e-mail. However, I can understand some of you not wanting to see ANY of that stuff here... If I can get that DVD trader up pretty soon, maybe I should revamp the for-sale board too, making it easy to add/edit/remove stuff for sale... Even so, it should only be one ad per person, so it doesn't look like ads plastered everywhere
Joe ( 205.188.199.39 ) at 2:43 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Wild Bill: For my 2 cents I have been thinkig the same thing for weeks. I liked having Bob around here. We do not need rules, as we are adults (most of the time). We also do not need people running off a man for owning a business and saying he does, then doing the same.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.192 ) at 2:32 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
JBC: http://www.htoc.net/bin/forum.cgi (or you can simply right click on the forum's frame in the frames version and "show only this frame")
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 2:22 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
RickMTB: E-mail back at ya!!
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 2:14 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Rules?
We don't need no stinking rules! What fun or rules if you can't break them once in awhile
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 2:11 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: Reminder, reminder ... I can't do a thing for anyone without you 1st furnishing a vilid/ registered existing iScan serial # that you're willing to trade-in. I have rec'd to date a grand total of 1 S/N.
You can't play if you don't follow the rules dude!
BTW thanks for the deminsions on my AmPro. It'll fit perfectly between my main ceiling beams. Can you guess the height of the thing, where the fans vent & how much space they need?
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.36 ) at 2:10 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar, you got mail...
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 2:04 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Hint hint nudge nudge can Curtis find a good deal on a iScan pro?
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 2:03 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: I think we're all clear with what we want/ don't want posted. You're right that Darien was mostly answering ?'s. Perhaps his replies are best done via email?
Darian, your silence is deafening, we love you man & welcome your input. Don't go away mad pls.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:03 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
JBC: You've got mail
CHC: So do you.
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 1:52 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Like I stated in my post below, dealers that is another story. If there constantly posting things over and over then it is a problem and that is something we discussed ages ago. Unlike other forums you mention a deal somewhere and your post gets axed, because the dealers are paying for the advertising etc... thebigpicturedvd is the worst place that I have seen this happen, and lets face it we can get just as good prices on goods as dealers do in most cases. I don't think it's all Darians fault because people where asking him for the info and the cost. I know I was on the iScanPro..... Doh!!!
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 1:50 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Believe it or not I have been holding back 90%+ of what I'm selling because as wonderful as this stuff is, I highly doubt that anyone here needs enough stuff to start a business to compete with something the size of say Yahoo!
Ask AVB, he got the entire list of what I have.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.252.167 ) at 1:46 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Can you tell by my typing in the last post that the painkillers are still in my system? LOL!!
Wild Bill ( 63.44.252.167 ) at 1:45 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: I agree with you 100% on personal sales nor do I have a problem with Curtis cassing along a "steal" or two on ocmoputer equipment. But asking for preorders on iScan Pros or solociting sales for Sampo TVs? There's no place for that here IMHO.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.252.167 ) at 1:43 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: The reason that I made the post is that there was a concensus on the forum during the "Bob" fiasco that dealers in this hobby were FORBIDDEN from advertising or trying to sell through the forum. The group was very clear about this issue. That's all I'm pointing out. Nothing more, nothing less.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 1:32 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Tony C: Would like to talk to you for a few minutes. Can you e-mail me your tel number at joel_cohen@watsonwyatt.com
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 1:31 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: One of the golden rules of Netiquette is clearly "Do Not Conduct Business on End-User Forums". It's simply considered about as rude as taking your wife to the best restaurant in town and having the guy at the next table loudly closing sales on his cellphone.
Here's an alternative that we CAN all do. www.smoothsale.com Yes, I know the folks who own it but it's the best way of selling online in real time. Go to the demo section & you'll get the idea very quickly. I even had a hand at creating the demo. (stepping off commercial stump now for good).
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 1:29 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
If you work for a dealer like Bob/Darian then it might be a different story, but none of us do. So you could post it on the sale board in there and mention it. Curtis you have mention you computers over and over in here for sale, and I don't have a problem with that. If I am paying for someting I should be able to post something for sale on here and then direct them to my E-mail.
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 1:26 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Example: I have a Hafler THX Amp for sale! PSA From me Anyone interested we can discuss it by E-mail garcom@execpc.com This is an example, and I don't have a problem with these or PSA's....
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 1:24 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: No, I dissagree that I should post anything here for exactly the reasons WB gave. You guys have my email address. Feel free to ask me what up, but let's take it offline.
BTW, I later became friends w/ Bob @ Avalon. He used to live just down the street from me here in $ilicon Valley. Ask him if he's still kicking himself over selling his house in Cupertino that's likely worth 7 figures today!
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 1:23 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Bill : I think anyone that has something for sale on here can mention it, I didn't have a problem with Bob at Avalon, just didn't think his prices at the time where all that great. And as far as personal gain if there is a saving for "US" on here and a personal gain for the seller, I say post it and discuss it by e-mail if it gets too long winded on here.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 1:22 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
SVS
Here's what Tom Vadhandel recommends for my system:
Try setting all your speakers to small/80hz for now
or, at least set the subwoofer XO to 80hz when using the SVS.
setting the DC-2 to 40hz starts filtering the bass around 35-36hz(so everything from 35-36hz and up is attenuated). IMO---this is RARELY the best way to go.
I’d start off with
1)all speakers set to small/80hz
2)subwoofer set to 80hz
3)SVS connected via linelevel to the DC-2 subwoofer output 4)dont use the crossover bypass feature for now.
5)set the XO on the SV to it’s highest postion
6)calibrate the SV to about 2dB above the other speakers for now.
7) leave the EQ switch on the SV at zero
now---turn down the XO of the SVS to about 50-60hz.
Don’t re-calibrate though.
Now---try some music and film demos.
BTW----turn the subwoofer peak limiter of the LEXICON---OFF.
let me know how this sounds?
TV
Gar ( 169.207.194.86 ) at 1:20 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: You can post whatever you want for sale on here, it is a free board to some extent. Hell we pay for it so post away, especially if it is going to save us money:) Speaking of paying need Sonics e-mail so I can get his address on where to send my check. garcom@execpc.com
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 1:18 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
9" FP purchase
Wild Bill: There is a downside to this particular FP in that when the CRT's do finally go I may not be abale to replace them. At this price however I'm willing to take the risk. When it dies I can simply sell off the other parts and perhaps break even. I'm guessing with the low hours on it it will be some time before this happens. All other parts are readily available from 3 sources.
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 1:14 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Wild Bill: Agreed & guilty as charged here. The only reason I posted the notebooks here last night was because I lost the many email requests from lots of our pals here. Broadcasting it was tacky but the only way to be sure all who have been patiently waiting got the word.
It's much more work selling things onsie-twosie to friends than a 50 unit sale at the same price to a local company. Yes, there's personal gain in it for me but I meant the offer as a PSA for my old pals. I'll stop mentioning what's for sale.
Irony is that I'm the one who blasted Bob way back for commercializing this place. Bad Curtis, bad
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 1:08 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Laptop
Tony C: Yes, I have a new/ in box Sony VAIO that's tiny. Email me if interested pls.
BTW the Chicago HS I was teasing you about is Central Y on LaSalle St (if memory serves) a lot of amazing people came out of that place. The teachers were the coolest in the world & not much older than the students.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.252.167 ) at 1:07 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
SVS
Tony C: Try setting the VT-2's back to small. Although I was VERY impressed by the VT-2's I was not at all impressed by the built in subs. You changed them over to large so that *could* be the problem.
Darian ( 66.44.0.79 ) at 1:00 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
HD owners... Guys, if you are in the DC area... WETA is showing SMPTE color bars on 27-02 right now. You can set your tint color and brightness from this one. It cycles with a few other things.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.252.167 ) at 12:58 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
9" FP purchase
CHC: Congrats on the purchase. I merely wanted to remind you that there *could* be a downside to the purchase. Of course, the upside is tremendous!!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:57 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Laptop
XXL AL: You can borrow a laptop from me. I really do have one that is not in use all the time and can spare it. Its a new Compaq and should work great for you.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.252.167 ) at 12:56 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Darian: Yep, we've talked about teaming up and I am not averse to the idea. I just can't freaking go anywhere right now! LOL!!
One thing though, I do have a problem with ANY of us working this forum for our personal gain. There was a big hoopla a while back over Bob @ Avalon because of this and (I think) much of the attack towards Bob was unjustified. The same rules should apply to you. You should be here because we're your friends and not because we pose an opportunity for you to make money. I turned JBC onto a CRT projector that KPD had and there was not one cent in it for me. I did it for a friend. I also have purposefully NOT posted on this forum about a batch of NEC projectors that KPD and I are partnering on. I don't think it would be right for me to do so. You can take this all with a grain of salt but I think the "business" part of your business needs to stay out of the forum. I've posted this because you seem to be increasing attempts to try to sell through this forum. Please don't take this as an attack. You know me and should know that it is not intended as such. Regards.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:55 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Laptop
CHC: Do you ever get any real light/small laptops?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:54 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
SVS
Well last night I moved the sub way into the corner. This even gave me room to put Nipper back into the corner in front of the sub.
I set the Lex real low, about -9db and crossed over at 40hz. It was a little smoother in the corner. But the dts disc still made my ears ring and the volume was only on -16db.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:51 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Good Morning everyone.
JBC: Here's how I get into the forum: www.htoc.net/bin/forum.cgi
CHC: Nice move.
Gar ( 169.207.194.187 ) at 12:51 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CRT hours
CHC: Wow about only a years use, not bad at all.
Gar ( 169.207.194.187 ) at 12:50 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC
The Ampro 4200 is about a 3ft square. My boss has the top of the line 4600 at Audiophiles and one 4200 left. He stated the company that used to own Ampro is back up and running under another name. So service shouldn't be a problem nor parts. Enjoy that beast when you get it.
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:48 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
my math skills are lacking. If it's 5 years old then CRT usage comes to 0.71 hours per week, or 0.10 hours per day.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.78 ) at 12:47 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Ron H... you got mail...
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:45 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CRT hours
This just in from my seller:
Total CRT Time 00367:16:17, read this as 367 total hours. Not bad for a 5 year old projector. Comes out to 2.35 hours per week, a lot less than I'm going to be watching.
Gar ( 169.207.194.187 ) at 12:43 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
CHC: No, table mount. It retracked up into a 20ft ceiling. It took two of us to get it up there and that was hard enough. He still has the thing believe it and hasn't sold it or used the room in ages. Alot of wasted money sitting there, and he isn't willing to give it up at any good price. I mean we are talking a ISF Ampro and a full fledge Meridian 6000 system with DVD player and the 800 Processor. It is collecting dust As far as demensions I can get a manual from my old boss today if he is around.
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:35 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
better HD programming now
Local PBS is now sending out a WRAL HD special about moving a huge lighthouse. Unbelievable engineering job!
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:21 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
D.C. broadcast
Jeez everyone looks frozen!
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:19 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
Gar: Can you give me approx. dimensions pls? I have to assume that it's as big as the current top-end Runco 9" FP. I have about a 12" ceiling recess between the big joists, so that can hide a good deal of height.
The seller is FedExing the owners manual, service manual, installation manual and quick start card. I'll know everything needed to prep the room once I have these in hand.
Did your store ever do any table mounts with this model?
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:13 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Monitors
Derb: LOL! Yeah there's one tiny 19"er hooked up to my sons DreamCast/VGA adaptor. The kid doesn't get that it looks much better on a top-end 21" Sony with .22mm resolution
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:09 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
Cytotech: If you happen to get to H'ville I would appreciate you checking it out for me. I'll compensate you somehow - assuming you don't take it to your new house of course.
Gar ( 169.207.194.187 ) at 12:09 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
CHC: Glad to here you got this puppy, I am glad I posted it. I wanted it for myself because we used to have one of these puppies at Audiophiles and it looked awesome. But the thing is huge and I have no room, so I opted for the Sony 10HT, which has served me well. Let me know when you get it and how it looks, and keep an eye out for any deals on iScan Pro units.
Thanks man...........
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 12:08 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
HD OTA right now
The PBS feed of the party in D.C. is looking great. Check it out. Now if they would only remove that stupid PBS logo from the lower left it would be perfect.
Derb ( 199.174.7.87 ) at 12:07 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Monitors
CHC: AKA Deal Maker,AKA Pimp Daddy,AKA Talk Of The Town: Do you have any larger than life 20/21" Monitors sitting on that dinning room table?
Derb ( 199.174.7.87 ) at 12:04 PM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
9" CRT's
CHC: Congrats on the new/old projector. Sounds like it's a great deal, I hope it is in the best condition possible.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.196 ) at 11:53 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
CHC: I'd just HATE to see you pay more in shipping than you paid for the actual proj!
Enjoy!
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.196 ) at 11:52 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: PLUS I have a new house to put it in!(well, I will in less than a month!) nudge nudge.
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 11:51 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
Cytotech: Nice try pal
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.196 ) at 11:43 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
CHC: You know... I live just 1.5 hours South of H'ville! You really should let ME have that deal! (JK!) (Not really)
I could drive up and get it. Plus my sister and brother live up there.
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 11:42 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
JBC: Good question, I'll have deminsions later today. It weights in at 145lbs. Even though it indludes the ceiling mount & I have very strong 4x 12" ceiling supports, I'm toying with the idea of building a custom coffee table for it.
How much am I missing our friend Duane right about now - anyone heard from him in ages?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 11:14 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Curtis: Just out of curiosity... how big is that sucker?
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 11:00 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
this kind of FP installation
Houston Mission Control Central is rumored to use the same AmPro. Check it out.
http://www.elitevision.com/viewCustom.htm
Joe ( 152.163.205.63 ) at 10:53 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Welcome Legacey
Joe ( 152.163.205.63 ) at 10:48 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: 40-65 in Jan, thats pool weather.
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 10:43 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
many thanks
trav1: I owe you too. If you hadn't posted the entire item I would not have checked it out, figguring Gar must have been smoking some of the Madison Madness again.
Now all I need is to find someone dumping a $20K Faroudja scaler for $20!
Joe ( 152.163.205.63 ) at 10:41 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
9" FP purchase
CHC: congarts C, a little late I just got up
Joe ( 152.163.205.63 ) at 10:37 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
CHC: Hey, I am ot working maybe I could just adda comments and color humor every now and then. I don't charge much, just beer money
CHC ( 206.170.6.112 ) at 10:27 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
JBC: Now that's the kind of comment I was fishing for! I talked to the seller for an hour last night. He's from Huntsville, AL. Many of you know this is a very techie town. The story on MY AmPro 9" FP goes as follows...
It was used as a backup in a huge multi-FP defense department related vendor room. Something like 8 of these puppies were in an array. AmPro did all setup and was sure no CRT's were overdriven. My backup was rarely used, confirmed by the hour meter.
This huge room is converting to all LCD walls. The sellers wife works there and snagged the best one for her husband (nice wife, huh?). The only reason he's selling is because he can't find an ISFer installer closer than Chicago.
I'm surprised nobody else here attempted to grab this gift.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:58 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Scott: What is the URL for the "non-frame" version of HTOC?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 7:51 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Wow... did I ever miss a busy night!
CHC: Your the man!!! What a score. Let's know how beautiful she looks in all her glory.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.19 ) at 7:17 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
BIG AL: That's fine. Take your time.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.48 ) at 6:32 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Morning guys!
Welcome Legacy!
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 3:11 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Scott "popcorn": Dewd... you need to get that spell checker written.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 3:10 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: Dang... if it wasn't for Gar's intrustion (just kidding Gar!) I'd have ya beat.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 3:08 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Welcome Legacy
I agree Curtis... I just hope she doesn't start putting plants and chairs in front of the speakers... But some nice touches would be really helpful around here
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 3:07 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Bikini Watch
Kieran: Are you taping it this time???
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 3:01 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Welcome legacy... Any relation to the speakers by the same name?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 2:59 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
9" FP purchase
CHC: Dewd... you lead a charmed life and you want MORE congrats??? PULLLLLLLEAZE!!! Women, money, hob-knobbing with the snobs, a great HT consulting deal and now a projector for PEANUTS??? GEEZ MAN!!!
By the way... any idea on when that big box is gonna get here?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 2:49 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Opps
Derb: Actually, if the "crap" you refer to is the graphic "folder tabs", I didn't put those there... You hit on one reason I just the full forum view If that's not what you're talking about, if I do get around to rewriting the forum, I want to have an option to not have the post fields on the view page at all... Instead, you'd hit a button (either a reply button, or a post new button) to go to a posting screen. Of course, this would be set in user preferences... I won't make ANY changes to the forum format that you can't disable via user preferences... Basically the idea is to keep the forum the way everyone likes it, but also provide options for viewing it in different ways and different ways for it to function.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 2:43 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
What B-Day Tag
Derb: I'll see what I can do... I need to motivate myself to get some other stuff done first, and I've been considering a rewrite of the script... clean it up, try to make it a bit faster, give it more options (such as the summary view you can find in the experimental section)... I'm designing a device that swings a boot to ass-level to kick my ass so I can get work done... but I seem to be procrastinating on that job as well.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 2:34 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
SVS
Kieran: I'm not saying it's audiable... nor am I saying that just one listener in the room can't get a good smooth response... But what I AM saying is that I think it is very difficult to place two subwoofers (or more) in a room and get a smooth response over the entire seating area... of course, it depends on where the subs are placed... Two stacked would not produce much of a problem, and placed at left front and right front would tend to balance most sounds out as well... I'm not sure how "bad" this effect is either, namely, I don't know how easy it is to hear this "distortion"... But it's there, and science says it is... and If I recall one of your former posts, I'd think you'd be against it
Gar ( 169.207.192.101 ) at 2:27 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: Ah, Curtis if you would have read my post I said Cabo San Lucas! It is in the 80s there, hot and tropical. I don't think that is anywhere near Wisconsin or Northern Cal. hehehehehehe
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 2:20 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
What B-Day Tag
Derb: The birthday stuff is in the left frame of the frames version of the forum... If you get to the forum via the link on the main page (www.htoc.net), then you get the frames version. That's ok though, I use the non-frames version myself
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.120 ) at 2:18 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
SVS
BAGMAN: I think the problems come in at and around the pressurization frequency... introducing a crossover could cause more problems than just the two subs.
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 2:16 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
7 posts in a row means I guess I'm done for the evening. A good day, to be sure.
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 1:56 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
FYI
Wild Bill: Your point about AmPro being out of biz is well taken. This is why I'm not worried about parts and service going forward for a steal of a price on the used FP:
"Elite Video, Inc. of Woburn, MA has told SCN that it will provide customer service support, repair services, and parts sales for Ampro CRT, LCD, and DLP projectors.
Said Eric Geller, President of Elite Video and former VP AmPro Prosumer Products, "there is a need in the marketplace for continued service and support for the thousands of AmPro projectors still in use. Walter Allen, our Technical Guru and former AmPro VP Technology, is personally available to assist in troubleshooting and repair."
Elite Video can be reached at tel: 781.938.6606.
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 1:41 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Welcome Legancy
Welcome to our little corner of the world. Trust me, this really isn't the boys locker room that it seems to be this evening. I know of at least 4 women who regularly lurk here and even post once in a greatr while.
I love BC and may well end up building a house there someday. A nice Lindal Cedar home. Please feel free to say hi and ask away at anything HT related or otherwise. This place can use a womans touch!
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 1:37 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Gar: I think you need a reality check, this is NORTHERN Ca, not LA or San Diego. Nobody's hanging out at the pool in Jan. because the temps range from about 40 to 65. Not tropical, but not Wisconsin either.
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 1:33 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Kieran: I have 100 of those Dells sitting in my dining room right now! Whatever quantity you want is yours.
Next weekend is on for sure as long as you don't mind crashing on the sofa (my teens will be with me). Great that your sis & her BF are coming. It's a potluck, so anytrhing they want to bring to eat is great. I'll get a pony of Tied House Amber Ale (best local microbrewery) and we'll have a blast. You can scope out my latest love interest - the Brit gourmet chef.
Kieran ( 172.169.90.111 ) at 1:25 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC:You know I'm down for at least one, maybe two of those laptops, right? I can pay you this week when I see you, if it's all set to go.
Also, are you leaving next Saturday open still? I'm planing on another day of computers and HT (and a LITTLE bit of helping you prepare for Sunday ). BTW, my sis and her b/f might come Sunday... what should they bring?
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 1:24 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Bikini Watch
Kieran: Aussie Open live tennis on ESPN2 has me distracted at the moment. I'll switch between odd games.
Gar ( 169.207.192.101 ) at 1:20 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Bikini Watch
Kieran: Hey knockers that off Kieran!!! hahahah Is that in 3D!
I was thinking about buying a pair of Sony Glastrons for HT view on the plain, are they any good. The first generation I have seen and they weren't bad. I heard there was another company selling something similar but with 16:9 pannels. Itech I think was the name.
Gar ( 169.207.192.101 ) at 1:18 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
I am interested, my wife is going nuts! She needs a vacation, but I like doing things, and she likes sitting at a pool reading books. Boring!!!! So we are fighting over a vacation, I want to go to Lake Louise in BC, and stay at the Royal Hotel(I think that is the name) it is built right into the mountian side, but she wants to go to Cabo San Lucas. And sit by a pool! Argh!!!!! How about a Deal on a iScan Pro if you can find me one.
Kieran ( 172.169.90.111 ) at 1:15 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Bikini Watch
That bikini competition documentary is on the Travel Channel AGAIN!
{drooollll}
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 1:13 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
FYI
Gar: Yep, it's mine How about a trip to SF for a weekend so I can show you it isn't all gay around here - all on me anytime you want a break from the winter stuff. 65 degrees today, interested?
Gar ( 169.207.192.101 ) at 1:12 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
FYI
CHC: Man that is why I love this board!!!!! You can exchange info and Sales on net before anyone else snags them.. The Sampo TV and the Ampro where two huge steals on Audioreview, a place I monitor daily. So Curtis, can you get me a good deal on a iScanPro? Let me know if you can
garcom@execpc.com
Gar ( 169.207.192.101 ) at 1:08 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
FYI
CHC: Holly shit, you bought the Ampro? I got an E-mail from him asking if I wanted it, I said no, but I would post it on here....... hehehehe Chalk that to 3 now!!!!!!! I get 3 wishes from Curtis...... hahahahahah Just kidding. That's cool you bought it.... Congrads!!!!!!!!!
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 1:08 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
FYI
Gar: None of my notebooks currently have DVD drives. Dell will sell anyone the drive & PC card for $260 new that work great in this model.
This particular Ampro was installed at NASA as a backup. I owe you big time my friend.
Gar ( 169.207.192.101 ) at 1:05 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: How about a DVD Rom Drive?
Gar ( 169.207.192.101 ) at 1:04 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
FYI
Wild Bill: I know Ampro went bankrupt, used to sell that beast! I just posted a FYI because it was a steal at that price. That unit is huge and puts up a fantastic picture. And at $700 bucks it is a huge steal. Regaurdless if there bankrupt there is aways someone around repairing them and lots of spare parts. Hell NASA was using that projector for simulations etc...
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 12:59 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
BIG AL: You're right, I way late getting back to you & others. I just got approved pricing on the following:
Dell Latitude model CPx500GT notebook with
PIII 500Mhz CPU
128MB RAM
14.1" TFT Active Martis Display (XGA)
Xircom RealPort NIC Ethernet + 56K Modem in one card
Docking Station: C/PortII Port Replicator
Dell Branded 19" Trinitron Monitor Mdl. P991 w/ monitor stand
2 x Li-ION Batteries
24 x CD/ROM Drive
Floppy drive
11 GB Hard Drive
Nylon Dell Carry case
OS: Your choice of Win98/NT or 2000
Installed SW: MS Office Pro 2000
Warranty: balance of 3 year onsite/ next biz day (2+ years remaining)
Price new: >$4,300
HT pals price: $1,700
Not a steal like my new FP, but an excellent value for a very much in biz company product. email me withing the next 5 days if you want in, otherwise I have them all sold at this price to local corps.
Your price $1,700
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:39 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC; hmmmmm....still ignoring me? Must've been one notebook comment too many! Sorry dude, but it's been over 2 months since you first offered. I'm a spoiled brat, and want my toys NOW!
seriously, I really don't want to tear apart my system again to load the upgrade, and it's sitting there laughing at me every day.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:33 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Scott pop; I don't disagree with you. I agree with most of your statements. However, rules are meant to be broken, and that's usually when I have the most fun! I think room placement can have more effect on bass response, than multi sub problems. The idea is to try to get enough positive results so that you outweigh the negatives. There will always be negatives with even one sub, as there's no perfect setup.
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 12:33 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Sources so far.
DiSH 6000 HD receiver... using component/RGB at 720P and 1080i. Its cool to have the ability to check both.
EAD TheaterVision P Sil 503 chip and DVDO NRE board in the box. Component or RGB 480P
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 12:31 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Darian: My life is a flawed as anyone elses, I just pass on the good stuff. Don't get negative on me dude
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 12:30 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Congrads on all the new purchases Curtis. It seems that there are 3 different remotes that can be with the Sampo. Let me know which one you have when it showes up. On Tuesday I should have all the remotes.
Interesting tid bit. My processor has descrete codes that I had never bothered to dig up. Today I was messing with the sampo and I noticed the EAD was in a noise test sequence. Thats right... Input select is the same code for noise generator in the EAD setup menu.
BYork ( 166.90.42.21 ) at 12:29 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
All - welcome a new (female, I'm pretty sure...!) member.
legacy is her alias. legacy - your bio is up, and you should have an email with your password in your inbox.
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 12:28 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Shampoo viewing distance
Darian: Are you running thru an iScan or are you saying no visable scan lines right out of the box?
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:27 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Wild Bill; Now I'm going to have to dig up that article to see why he said no sub for center. After reading my post, it makes no sense. Maybe it's lack of sleep. Time to remedy that!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:25 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC; Darian is so much more eloquent than I!
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:24 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC; Frankly I'm getting tired of giving you congrats! It seems like you fall into deals on a daily basis!
jk
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 12:24 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: We are so in awe of your charmed life. We have to remember that we don't actually want you dead!
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 12:19 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
9" FP purchase
So why aren't I getting one single congrats? Even an outta biz 9" FP once $28K for $700 (just confirmed low CRT hours) is a steal. Think of it as a great car with low miles. How often can you pick up a sample for 2.5% of new?
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 12:19 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Viewing distance on the sampo. Bang your nose into it and you still won't see lines. AS my 61HS10 has yet to be purchased... and my cohort rushed the delievery... I have the Sampo on the floor infront of the HS10.
Viewing distance... I am 5'8" tall sitting with my back against a chair on the floor. My toes are touching the front of the panel.
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 12:16 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Big Al: Message received.
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 12:16 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
EliteVision: Got the dealer sheet from our reps to try to get interest. Prices were higher than they models that they farm. In some cases a lot higher. Website needed a overhaul when I checked it last week.
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 12:13 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
CHC: Depends on what you need. Just got a blurb about the Ultimate Subwoofers... ContraBassTwin. It is 2 Contras in one enclosure. that is 4 servo driven 15"ers with 4 passive radiator 18"ers. Now that is a subwoofer!!!
Shampo remote. I might have been a little nicer if not for teh "Watch Out Darian Thread!" But it is in me to forgive people who may infact lead to money down the line for me!!! Remote should arrive on Tuesday. If you are real nice to me.. I may let you ship it back and forth and loan it to you. You pay shipping both ways and give me some warning when you would need it. Just go easy on discouraging people from buying from me.
Bill and I have talked about teaming up before.
Kieran ( 172.169.90.111 ) at 12:13 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
CHC: We'll talk Wednesday when I'm in SJO okay? IF you're still available Wed. night, that is!
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 12:11 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
Kieran: Come on down. One thing that I have learned in this consulting gig is that when I do it right, I can easily keep 3 assistants busy 24/7
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:06 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Wild Bill; I remember Richard Hardesty's articles on subs. A man that definately believes in multiple subs!!! (and not stacked) He said to leave the center channel un-subbed because subs cause voices to sound "chesty", or un-natural. You can set the center small, and send those explosions subward!
Kieran ( 172.169.90.111 ) at 12:04 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
CHC: You wouldn't be needing a partner in this new venture would you??? Seriously though, if you ever want some friendly help and assistance or something... I'd love the experience.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:03 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Bagman; Let me dig for it a couple days. Not sure which box it's in.
BIG AL ( 216.207.153.47 ) at 12:01 AM EST Saturday, January 20, 2001
Darian; e-mail headed your way!
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 11:28 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
Wild Bill: Stay tuned for good things. No promises at this point because I must develop a few killer HT's here before the right coaster VC's start lusting. If we work hard & do it right, this could be the beginning of a beautiful biz relationship.
CHC ( 206.170.6.13 ) at 11:22 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
FYI
Wild Bill:True. A group of former Ampro engineers has started a new company www.elitevision.com to service the many installed Ampros out there. They clain to have tons of new spare parts, etc. to service the 9" model this guy's selling.
Guess what? I bought it! He confirmed low CRT hours is fairly certain it has been ISF'd from day one (not overdriven) and is selling because his wife doesn't want it in the house. At this price even if it sucks it's disposable.
Wild Bill ( 152.163.213.47 ) at 10:47 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
CHC: Very interested. Let me know. I don't disappoint.
Wild Bill ( 152.163.213.47 ) at 10:45 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
FYI
Gar: Ampro is also bankrupt and gone and there's no feasible way to get the projectors serviced. I'd pass.
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.46 ) at 10:33 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
CHC: Lucky ba$tard!
CHC ( 206.170.6.148 ) at 10:28 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
New consulting work for me that you guys will dig
I now have 4 Venture Capitalist$ asking me to put together "Ultimate HT's, including HD". Price isn't really a concern, they simply want the best for bragging rights ... I'm pinching myself as you can imagine!
I get to do 2 things: 1) make a lot of consulting $ & 2) put together the best state-of-the-art HT's in Silicon Valley. You know that once their rich pals see what's possible that I can switch away from selling stupid high-end computers to full-time ultra HT consulting.
Wild Bill: these guys all have east coaster pals who'll want the same thing installed in their homes. Interested?
Darian: Want to be my supplier?
Derb ( 199.174.1.234 ) at 10:01 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
derb
trav1: No the Logan's stay, it was a joke, the at the end gave it away.
CHC ( 206.170.6.47 ) at 9:40 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
trav1: tks trav. This is trhe 1st 9" FP I have ever seen near this price. It must be the size of a VW Beetle like the 9" Runco Kieran saw.
Aside from the obvious ?'s about CRT hours, proper output settings (not overdriven) what else should I ask the seller?
CHC ( 206.170.6.47 ) at 9:36 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Linda Trip fired
The poor trailer trash lost her $90K Defense Department job as a glorified secretary.
A little bit of taxpayer waste saved. It only makes you wonder how much more the IRS gets from us goes to fund nothing.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 9:36 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Brand/Model: Ampro 4200 9" CRT Project
Category: Home Theater
Age: 5 Years
Condition: Good
Price: $700 or best offer
Detailed Description:
AmPro (Esprit) 4200 9" CRT video project. I have the ceiling mount, owners and service manuals, remote, and quick reference card. The unit operates and can give all code reply and system check information (Lens life, faults etc.). Has composite, Quad/S, and component video inputs. All support computer graphics and HDTV compatible ready. I am selling because I can not find an installer within 200 miles to set up again (I moved recently). Includes already installed help software to aid in setting up. This unit sold for $28,000 new and I have the shipping receipt. I will built a custom wooden enclosure for shipping (I am an experienced woodworker) and buyer pay shipping form 35757. Estimate 150 lbs. Any questions email me at jmudler@iol-12.net
CHC ( 206.170.6.47 ) at 9:31 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
FYI
Gar: DUDE did you mean to post that Ampro price as $700 or $7K. If it's the former I think you just found my FP.
CHC ( 206.170.6.47 ) at 9:16 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Gar: Yes, that's the Sampo I'm getting. Only waiting on my movers to properly pack it and bring it 500 miles to me. Thanks again for the lead (Darian thanks you too ;-))
You guys know I'll be posting my impressions the minute I find the time to properly set it up.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.31 ) at 9:13 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
tuner
BIG AL: I'm sorry,I forgot to respond. Yes, I'm interested. Give me the details. groot@keysconnection.com
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.31 ) at 9:05 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Kieran: can only x-over at 40 hz, at its lowest point.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.31 ) at 9:00 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Kieran: Oops, again,using two subs.
Gar ( 169.207.194.129 ) at 8:59 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
FYI
Ampro 4200 This unit is a awesome FP. Sold for $28,000 new. Guy has had it a few years and is selling it for $700. 9" CRTs, it is listed on Audioreview under "hometheater" Check it out.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.31 ) at 8:58 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Kieran & Tony C:Ok Kieran, granted there could be some over- lap but isn't it possible to x-over most of the over -lap out of the equation? As an example,my pre/pro is really flexible but it can only x-over at 40 hz,which is audible. Is it possible to x-over lower,so that if a person and their sub was cabable, didn't care about the expense of doing such a x-over(I have no idea what it would cost,I'll leave that up to you EE's)it would, in effect, create a sub-sub woofer?
Gar ( 169.207.194.129 ) at 8:55 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Logans
Kieran: I always been somewhat of a fan, owned SL3s and Requests. Love the soundstage they put up, but to my ears the Dynaudios and Joesph Audio sounded more detailed with just as good of a soundstage, that is why I sold mine. But I do miss them because they sure did look cool.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 8:49 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
derb
Derb: Ok, i'm lost. Your selling your Logans?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:45 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Kieran: THe pressure that you and Wild Bill mention is what I think is actually making my ears hurt!!
My room is a box. 14.6 x 27 x 7.5
And I really don't have the room to experiment with positioning the sub.
From my listening position, the bass seems very located, because my right ear hurts more than my left ear.
My NHT VT2s supposedly go down to 25Hz. So let's say that they can really do 40Hz. The Lex only crosses over at 40 - 80 - 120.
I tried 40Hz and 80Hz with not much difference.
Derb ( 199.174.5.116 ) at 8:37 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Opps
Scott: That came across kind of harsh. The stuff at the top is cool and all I just don't use it much. I know you and others worked hard at adding all this stuff. Thanks again
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:34 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
BAGMAN: THat's exactly what I was thinking. One sub crossed over lower than the other.
I did some testing today using Contact and the worm hole scene.
Once again, the two subs were pretty close.
I really have to get some friends over here to help me A/B and get some other opinions.
Hey Gar, want to take a 3 hour drive down to test my subs?
Derb ( 199.174.5.116 ) at 8:31 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
What B-Day Tag
SonicBit: I don't think I like that one. The one I use fills the screen the the crap I never use at the top, stays out of the way.
Scott: Can you post the B-Day Tag on both??
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 8:30 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Derb: Okay, I should qualify that remark, because I never listened to those ML's playing music! Just movies. So I really have no comparison, as I haven't ever listened to the Von Schweikert's for HT! So, keep your ML's! I did love those ML's by the way. But I've never been more impressed for 2ch audio than with my friend's dad's system. I'm sure it's not the best out there, but I really like it.
Derb ( 199.174.5.116 ) at 8:27 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Kieran: OK that it I'm getting rid of my Martin-Logans
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 8:22 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
BAGMAN: That's a double question... Because I think you can feel the pressure before you stop hearing it. I don't know what the exact frequency is... probably different for each person. Maybe around 25-30Hz? Most texts say that human hearing extends down to 20Hz as a rule of thumb. I think I can (or at least COULD recently) hear slightly lower than 20 Hz. I don't swear it as fact, but when listening to a 0-150 Hz sine wave sweep from a Velo 18"er, I could swear that I heard sound before the indicator showed 20 Hz.
Anyhoo, the challenge isn't designing a crossover at 20 Hz or so, that's just a matter of electronics. The challenge would be to design a driver that can reproduce the subsonic frequencies that you FEEL. This is why people buy TST's and butt-shakers, etc. Also, I think you can FEEL frequencies a lot higher than sub sonic stuff... think about an F-15C flying over at 500ft with full zone5 afterburner going. YOU FEEL THAT BOY, AND YOU HEAR IT TOO! Don't know if you ever experienced that, but if you have, you know what I'm talking about. (Don't do it too many times, if you want to keep your audiophile ears). But then, maybe this is just a combination of really loud subsonic frequencies, and really loud audible frequencies.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 8:12 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Scott "popcorn": Well, for one thing, I have a hard time believing that advertised "full range speakers" (except for some higher-end models) put out the SPL's at low frequencies that subwoofers do
DUDE! I just TOLD you of an example of some speakers that do! WTF? You don't believe me? Yes they are very expensive. But that's not the point. The point of the example is that PEOPLE DO IT, and they don't experience all these problems. I've listened to it, and as I said, I'm a sceptic because of the physics of it.
I'm sorry, but you REALLY lost me on your matter/water/ice example. I don't know what kind of matter you're referring to, but most matter I'm aware of is pretty fikkin' solid at -273C... GOO? Maybe some matter, but most everything else is damn hard frozen.
As for the shower lesson, I don't need to bathe with my speakers, I just sing! (rember... this is the choir boy speaking) Anyway, no I can't sing a 20Hz note... I WISH!!! But you don't need to in order to play with sound modes in a small accoustically reflective space. Trust me, I do sound experiments ALL THE TIME... every time I walk through a hallway, or entry way that's very accoustically active, I pause and start singing sweeps and listen for modes. It's very cool, really. Sometimes I can find places that will amplify my bottom range so much that I sound like a Bass instead of a Tenor. Usually below an A above low C and I start to fade and get very quiet. But in one church's side entryway in Budapest, I was cranking a low D or so and it was LOUD! The same is also true for the given room's integer modes of that low note. I can sweep up through my range and hear loud spots where the Modes are excited. AND, if I crouched down or moved around, the modes would change.
So, I guess I could say... you're preachin' to the choir boy!
Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree here, dude. I understand the physics, I really do. I've played around with accoustics more than you can possibly imagine. I've also played around with resonance in my physics lab sophomore year at UCI, using oscilliscopes and such. Been there, done that, as they say. However when it comes to real world problems with modes in audio rooms in homes, it doesn't seem to be as bad a problem as some people warn it will be. I don't deny that the modes are there, but I don't think they cause the detriments that you are talking about (at least not to the extent that you imply).
Oh, and TRUE full range mains do plenty of justice to the sound, if you've ever heard some REALLY good ones (i.e. expensive). The Von Schweikert's my friend's dad has are incredible and the woofers were not powered, however they were bi-wired. Better than anything I've heard for music (including the Martin Logans I heard with Curtis... Sorry Ron H!)
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:57 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
What B-Day Tag
Derb: To answer your question, not exactly.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 7:51 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
What B-Day Tag
Derb: Try http://www.htoc.net/ForumSet.html. This gives you a border on the left that has the birthday announcements in it with some other links to site stuff.
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.23 ) at 7:50 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
OT - Texans get their man
Don Capers, that is. Great hire. Me and another guy are getting our season tickets. He wants to go whole hog and get them with the PSLs, so I am just buying the season toicket part. Can't wait for 2002 ("... and with the first pick, Houston selects Henshaw, QB, from Michigan").
Derb ( 199.174.5.116 ) at 7:49 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
What B-Day Tag
Scott: What is this B-day deal that everyone is seeing but myself?
I'm connecting to htoc.net/bin/forum.cgi
Is this an old version?
Gar ( 169.207.194.23 ) at 7:15 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
CHC: Did you buy from that guy? The one on Audioreview that I posted to you a few weeks ago? Let us know how they look!
CHC ( 206.170.6.195 ) at 7:01 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Darian: Yeah I figured I was SOL on that remote idea if I didn't buy the display from you.
Mine will arrive next week. If you want some serious HD eye candy, check out the vastly improved DirecTV ch. 199 demo loop if you can. The new Discovery HD Theater stuff of Argentina will floor you. How far away are you sitting from the screen? Does a 16:9 picture seem too small for "real HT"?
johnbr ( 24.112.158.247 ) at 6:58 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Happy BIG B day David.
Darian ( 66.44.15.5 ) at 6:49 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Curtis: "Do I have a need to place the service remote off site, somewhere safe, 3000 miles away."
Ohh the comments I wanted to make on that one.
I have the Sampo! Remotes are on the way. Fixed up the timings and the geometry. WOW! PBS DEMO LOOP IS HYPNOTIC! Going to watch some DVDs now. Full LONG ASS post later.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.20 ) at 6:47 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Scott "popcorn" & Kieran: A serious question, at what frequency do you begin to feel pressure and not hear the bass. Wouldn't a two sub set-up work where one sub did the audible sounds and the other one was x-over so low that you could only feel the pressure(assuming that you had a x-over that was low enough to cut out the audible bass and they were located in the same spot). A second question,does anybody make such a x-over?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.106 ) at 6:25 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
...meant to add to the water example that the solid version of water (ice) relates to frequencies which pressureize the room and liquid version of water relates to "normal listening"...
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.106 ) at 6:22 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Kieran: Well, for one thing, I have a hard time believing that advertised "full range speakers" (except for some higher-end models) put out the SPL's at low frequencies that subwoofers do (and I'm not talking about speakers that have built-in subwoofers either)... Plus (and I'm sure AVB will disagree on this one) I think that multiple full range speakers have the same low-frequency problems that multiple subs do, and that is one reason I like the idea of mains cutoff at 60 to 80 Hz (above the room modes) and one sub or stacked subs... I just don't feel compelled that full-range mains do justice to the sound.
To make an analoge to this situation, let's compare sound frequency to temperature and sound waves to matter. Notice that, in one example, that if we lower the temperature to near absolute zero, matter becomes like a glob of goo (Forgot the name of it at the moment)... and, in another example, let's take water... below 32 degrees, it is a solid (at sea level, etc)... but above, it is a liquid (and above 212 degrees (F), it is a gas)... The size of the room and the frequency makes a lot of difference. I propose an experiment for you to try... Take two or more bookshelf-ish speakers and place them in a small room, such as a shower. get in the shower, play various music over the speakers (mono and stereo), and move the speakers around. I think you'll find (if you pay close attention) that some frequencies will be affected.
Joe ( 64.12.101.151 ) at 6:03 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Popcorn
My remarks were not intended as a slam at you
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:01 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Scott "popcorn": We've had this discussion before. As you know, I am fully aware of the physics to which you refer. However, I'm not convinced, and I'm one of the geekiest members of this forum when it comes to considering HT things scientifically. The reason is exactly what Tony C mentioned: FULL RANGE SPEAKERS. Consider a two channel stereo audiophile system, with only 2 speakers in the room. Both go all the way down to 20 Hz, maybe even a bit lower. (my friend DanS's dad has a pair of old custom Von Schweikert towers that go down to about -3 dB at 18 Hz... and all the way up to 25kHz... very impressive audio only system.) Anyway, that is effectively having two subwoofers in the room. And yet, dealing with room modes isn't this big impossible to solve physics problem. It's done all the time. I'm sure there are more than a few members of this forum who have full range main towers in their HT system that push the 20Hz range, and don't have this problem with modes.
I'm not arguing that it can be a problem. I understand the physics quite well, and don't dispute that the effects can be there. I just don't think it's USUALLY as problematic as some people believe it to be. If it were, full range towers would never be used by discerning HT/audio-philes.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 5:37 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Scott: Not that I know of. I believe that I am using regular size fonts.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.106 ) at 5:04 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC: Are you using some sort of "large fonts" or something to that effect? In 1024x768, I can see the whole menu, including the "summary view" link...
Anyone else having these problems?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.106 ) at 5:02 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
OT - News
Nathaniel Borenstein, a research fellow at the School of Information at
the University of Michigan (and the author of the MIME e-mail standard),
writes:
The residents of Silicon Valley are more confused than usual after a
billboard campaign by the National Multiple Sclerosis Society of America
used this line in an ad slogan:
"MS: It's not a software company"
exploiting the fame of a certain company to draw attention to an
altogether worthier cause.
Requests to comment on the campaign have been met by a surly silence by
Microsoft, which doesn't relish the association of ideas but is
painfully aware that it can't afford to appear insensitive over such an
issue.
Seasoned information technology professionals will have no trouble
telling the two MS's apart: One is a debilitating and surprisingly
widespread affliction that renders the sufferer barely able to perform
the simplest task. The other is a disease.
The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree,
is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals.
We cause accidents.
-- Nathaniel Borenstein
Cytotech ( 4.16.74.20 ) at 4:57 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Happy Birthday!
Have a great day, David! And drop us a line sometime.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.46 ) at 4:18 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC; Congrats,it's a no lose situation. (in our wierd way of thinking)
Joe; I couldn't agree more.
CHC ( 206.170.7.105 ) at 4:01 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Tony
Joe: "Screw all that scientific shit"
ROTFLMAO! No harm towards Pop, I know. Sometimes good old real world listening is the best test for just about everything. One could explain in great scientific detail exactly how an orgasm occurs ... I'll take the real thing any day
JBC ( 207.164.221.206 ) at 3:25 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Scott: I have this problem on my home PC as well which is viewed in 1024x768 mode!
Joe ( 205.188.199.158 ) at 3:24 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
I have a friend that buys a new sled every year. He looks at specs and buys the best there is. He will sit in the bar and tell you. He can tell everything about every slednew that year, except for pussy sleds, they don't count.
He knows all the tweaks and aftermarket items to add on. The thing is he spends most of the winter talking about his sled, not riding. Some where he forgot about why he started riding to begin with.
You just have to enjoy your hobbys. Be it flying across a frozen lake or changing you heart beat with massive amoutns of bass
Joe ( 205.188.199.158 ) at 3:19 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Laserdisc
Tony C: I have Pulse. I was looking for the one at Pompellia (sp) I have it on tape..but
Joe ( 205.188.199.158 ) at 3:17 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Tony
Screw all that scientific shit. Hook up 2 subs and see if you like it. Play some tunes and watch a few movies. If you like it cool, if not then stick to one.
Sometimes we just need to sit back and enjoy.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.97 ) at 3:03 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC: It has to do with the size of your display. I'm sure others viewing the forum in... 800 by 600 or 640 by 480 have this same problem. I'll look into a fix for this.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.97 ) at 2:57 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Tony C: With multiple subs, there is some serious interaction going on that you almost have to have a degree in audio engineering to understand... Let me try to explain my understanding of it...
First off, the main speakers don't have this problem because they are reproducing sound wavelengths that are much shorter, shorter than the room dimensions... So they do not "pressurize" the room, but instead they reflect and bounce around. Subwoofers, on the other hand, produce frequencies with wavelengths that are nearly the same as the room dimensions or longer. This has the effect of pressurizing the room.
Now here's where the tricky part comes in... If you have two subwoofers, then there are two different "point sources" for the pressurization, and depending on the location of these sources, the output will interact with each other at varying frequencies, and this will have the effect of creating more room modes than the three normal room modes (based on height, width, and length), and most likely will not be harmonics of these modes either.
So, if you haven't gotten lost yet, what this all means is that if you want multiple subs in a room, and you want it to work "right", then you'll need to be able to control the phase of each sub across the frequency range, and/or control the subs individually using an EQ. As Tom Nousine (Sp?) mentioned in the article, it is highly improbable to position the subs to operate right without scientific calculation.
On another note, I don't think this effect causes a lot of problems if your subs are placed in certain "normal" locations, such as both subs in the same place, stacked on each other, or if the subs are placed at the left main and right main speakers... But considering the drivers will be offset in these locations, you will have some undesirable effects.
And that's my understanding of the whole situation
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 2:45 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Laserdisc
Joe: I just rented and recorded onto tape two live Pink Floyd concerts from LD. They were practically the same show.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:42 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
CHC: You mean DVD-RAM?
CHC ( 206.170.7.105 ) at 2:33 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
Carlos: That's great news. You're probably aware of AppleS current DVD media that costs 10 x that much.
JBC ( 207.164.221.159 ) at 2:31 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Scott: Whenever it is someone's birthday the "reload button" in the left hand frame disappears (i.e. is far down to be seen). How can I get it to appear? DO others have this problem?
BC, CHC, Ron H, Tony C: Thanks for the congrats on the new speakers. I hope that I will like them for years to come as I have (at least to me) big $$$ invested. CHC, you may be surprised to hear this, but this is one of the most impulsive buys I have made. I, for some reason, just figured how can I go wrong considering that I am getting 100% back my near 1 year old M&K's and a 25% discount of list. O hw ell, time will tell.
Joe ( 152.163.197.59 ) at 2:27 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Laserdisc
With the talk about Laser the other day I went searching. It is mighty slim pickins out there. I was looking for a Pink Floyd Disc. ROn found it last year and I never bought it. Now I can't find it.
What was the site that does the big search. It seems like it was Jeffs laser search or something?
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 1:56 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
CHC: I believe the blank DVD-R discs are $50 for a 5 pack direct from Apple.
CHC ( 206.170.7.105 ) at 1:30 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Oh great
Kieran: I had a brand new spare AA TransCoder till a few weeks ago when I sold it to one of our brothers here - ARGH, I don't have the time to deal with this stuff.
CHC ( 206.170.7.105 ) at 1:27 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Oh great
Kieran: My DCT is probably fine, it's the big Toshiba that seems to have developed a problem locking onto anything the DTC throws at it. Once it finally does lock, the L&R edges are way out of color & geometry convergence.
How do I know the DTC is fine? It's currently hooked up to a 21" .22mm high-end Sony computer monitor & looking fantastic. I have a service call into Toshiba. Wanna bet the dude who comes out has never even seen one of their HD displays hooked up to a HD receiver.
Let's get together when you're in SJO. Wednesday night is the only one free & that could get booked with friends visiting from NYC next week. If nothing else drop off your DTC & I'll make sure you get the latest firmware download.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.24 ) at 1:25 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Just noticed,Happy B'Day David.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:03 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Oh great
CHC: Hmmm... I guess I should read the whole forum before posting. Sorry that you think it's your TW65. I told you not to think about selling it! I think you might have something there with the AA transcoder being the problem. Have you tried this: Run the output of your iScan into the same component jacks that are now being used for the dtc. If the picture is good, the PROBABLY the problem isn't with the TW65. (I say probably because the output of the dtc is 1080i, whereas I think your iScan is only 480p, right? So it could be that your TW65 can't do 1080i anymore but can do 480p still.) You already verified that it's not a prob. with the DTC, by hooking it up to the 21"er. It seems to me that the only way to test this and be TOTALLY sure, is to see if you can borrow a (verified) working AA transcoder from one of your local HT dealers, and try it on your system. If it's still a no-go, then it's probably your TW65 and the 1080i format. I can't think of any other items in the loop that could be the culprit, save for interconnects.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 12:44 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Oh great
CHC: I forgot to tell you... I'm going to be in SJ all next week, staying in the Homewood Suites Hotel at 10 West Trimble Rd. I'll be in a trainging course all day every day, 9-5. Free otherwise, though. So, anyway, I'm bringing all my stuff for the SB weekend with me when I drive down this Sunday night. That includes my DTC100, which you can borrow and get hooked up anytime next week. However, with MY dtc, if you fry it you buy it! Extenuating circumstances excepted, of course.
Seriously, though... any idea what happened to your box? Did you install the 169time HD recording card? Maybe something there went wrong. In any case, my dtc will (hopefully) get us through SB Sunday. NEVER FEAR!
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 12:27 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Buckeye Football
Wild Bill: -
OK...I gotta say it's going to be nice seeing the Buckeyes with a coach that MAY actually be able to compete with the Wolverines, instead of always making his team choke.
It should be interesting, to say the least!
CHC ( 206.170.7.105 ) at 12:17 PM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC: Here's to your new babies. I know you put a lot of thought into this purchase and hope everything sounds terrific.
Wild Bill ( 32.102.149.92 ) at 11:55 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
multi-subs
BIG AL: It makes more sense to me to hook up a sub in conjunction with the center channel than it does with the L/R mains. THe center gets most of the action and explosions tend to take place right in the middle of the screen and therefore (if the venter is set as "large") would be routed to a sub that is used with the center channel. Of course, you'd have to use the filter in the sub and use speaker level connections through the sub to use it this way.
Wild Bill ( 32.102.149.92 ) at 11:53 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Buckeye Football
Joe: The Wolverines days are numbered. There's a new attitude in Columbus and it's a winning attitude. Period. LOL!!
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:40 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC: Good for you man. I know your going to love those.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.61 ) at 10:37 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC: Cool! New stuff!
In case anyone's interested, HGTV is showing a program on home theaters on Sunday at 9pm (might be am...better check). Some of what they showed looked pretty cool.
Darian ( 66.44.10.199 ) at 10:35 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Tony C: New NHT stuff will be here on April 5th. According to my rep.
Ron H ( 205.230.159.47 ) at 10:16 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC: You dog!!.. Congrats. I will be awaiting your review.
Joe ( 64.12.105.156 ) at 9:59 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Buckeye Football
That man in Ohio must be worried. Last night in the news he was counting down the days untill he gets wooped in Ann Arbor 
Joe ( 64.12.105.156 ) at 9:55 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Expansive Post
BAGMAN: I should add about the Yamaha Tuner. I could just pick up Riff, which is downtown Detriot. I am 90 miles or so from Detriot. When I hooked up to my roof Antenea I had a good clear station. I have my Yamaha reciever hooked up now and can pick up whatever station I want.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 9:44 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
JBC - congrats, I am envious!
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.46 ) at 9:36 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Expansive Post
T-Man or HDTV-Man?: Was kind of verbose wasn't it. We discovered the station on our numerous house hunting trips. I hate to use the phrase but it is a classic heavy rock format. It isn't something that you would want on all the time but when your in that mood(think the mind set of Aug.21,1976) it is there.The mind set,not the music.
Take aim and pull the trigger on that HDTV.
Morning Everyone.
JBC ( 207.164.221.67 ) at 9:03 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Good morning gang.
Multiple Subs: It was me who first raised the question of multiple subs. To me this issue can be viewed in a number of ways:
a) An issue similar to the direct radiating vs dipole arguement;
b) A scientific issue, in the sense that Lexicon has a feature referred to as Bass Enhance. This requires the use of full range side speakers. The most common (and therefore successful) application is with the use of side subwoofers, making three subwoofers per system;
c) A matter of speaker manufacturer/speaker type. For example, M&K's literature strongly recommends the use of a second subwoofer.
In the end, it is a matter of personal taste. I do not like excessive bass. I like clean bass and LOTS of pressure. It is for this reason that I am going with two subs.
Ron H, Others: Speaking of new speeakers, I took the plunge (and honestly hope that I do not end up with buyers remorse). I could not pass on the opportunity of getting full credit on my original speakers so I pulled the trigger. Specifically:
a) The M&K S-150's will be replaced by the M&K SS-250 (i.e. MPS-2550);
b) The M&K SS-150'w will be replaced by the M&K SS-200 (i.e. MPS-1625); and
c) A second M&K MX-350 will be added to the mix.
Here is hoping for the best as more $$$ fly out the window.
Installation is scheduled for late next week or early the following week.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:50 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
NHT
Darian: NHT is releasing new speakers in the "super" series in March, I didn't see anything that might replace the HDP-2.
http://audioreview.com/tradeshow/cedia2000/index2.shtml
Joe ( 152.163.195.201 ) at 8:23 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Time for Coffee!!!!!!
Joe ( 152.163.195.201 ) at 8:18 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
A little off topic, Ultra sound went good yesterday. Halfway there
Joe ( 152.163.195.201 ) at 8:17 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Morning all,
Any of you guys use French Doors going into you Theater Room? I am on the wall going into my HT room. The probelm is the rough opening formally for a sliding door is to small for 6' doors. It is also to large for 5' doors. I was considering closing it in for a set of 5' french doors.
I know I might have a little sound problem with the glass in the doors, but it might look real nice. Plus I can get a set pre-hung for around $325. The other idea is to finish the opening and leave opening into the computer room.
Any thoughts?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:05 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
SVS
Wild Bill: I'll be playing around today.
Like I said, I had to quit because my ears were hurting.
Right now the Energy is plugged in. I'll set up the SV for 40hz and the lowest setting on the Lex output. I'll set the sub on 3.
What I have to remember is that the dts disc I was using has an awful lot of bass. The first time I was watching the disc with the SVS, there's a part in The Haunting when she gets knocked out of the bed. Man, it nearly knocked me off the couch.
As far as the pressure...I think that's whats making my ears bleed. I have to find a place where I can enjoy the bass and not get hurt.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 8:00 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Laptops
Since Big Al brought up the subject.
What is the bestest but lightest and smallest lap top for around $1,500?
I am used to my Toshiba Libretto. It's only about 7" x 4.5" x 1".
It weighs less than 2 pounds. And this is the only way to travel for business. But I'm thinking ahead. I know this one is about 4 years old and is ready to be replaced.
Ron H ( 205.230.159.47 ) at 7:37 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Good Morning all.
AVB ( 64.41.32.252 ) at 6:38 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Email from "EL"
I got this from "EL" yesterday and he said I could post it to bring you all up to date.
AVB,
Thanks much for your note and invitation. As you mentioned, I
haven't been at the site for a long time. I think, mostly, because at the time which I pretty much departed, that was the era of almost daily changes in the format and it was getting way frustrating for me to navigate easily.
That's basically the reason I took a break from the action. I nApril of last year I developed fibromyalgia, a musculo-skeletal affliction with much pain in my knees, hands and shoulders. Through conscientous physical therapy, medication and relaxation I have improved somewhat as of late. I look forward to even more improvement in the months to come. Perhaps I'll
"see" you again one of these days. Hope all is well with you and thanks again for your communique. Give my best to all the "gang."
"El"
Darian ( 66.44.3.99 ) at 1:52 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
BIg Al: Drop me an email tomorrow.. things are moving along with the Power Products... finally!
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.91 ) at 1:25 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
CHC; Speaking of upgrades, I sure do wish I had a laptop to install the latest software version in my Sony! Any closer?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.91 ) at 1:23 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Or maybe I should just watch some more movies on what I have, since I've only watched 3 after my big upgrade. Just can't seem to find that elusive wife free viewing time.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.91 ) at 1:20 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
multi-subs
I think it depends on how you hook them up. What about 5 full range speakers? Isn't that basically 5 subs? 8 does seem ridiculous, but I could see 5 in a 5.1 setup. One with each channel, skipping center, and a bigun for the LFE. Not enough space? I am actually toying with the idea of a small sub for the front lft & rt, another for the rear lft & rt, and the bigun for the LFE. It seems excessive, especially since the VMPS moves the hair on my legs with long pants on from 11 ft, but I'd like to try.
Gar ( 169.207.194.220 ) at 12:20 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Question??
Need help finding a good price on a treadmill. I heard Precor makes one you can hook you laptop up to amoung other things. Anywhere online to but with good prices? Thanks for the non-HT Help.
Gar ( 169.207.194.220 ) at 12:18 AM EST Friday, January 19, 2001
Perfect 10
Anyone ever heard of this Magazine? I got a white envelope today opened it up and out pops a magazine full of very hot natural looking women. No airbrushing or excessive makeup, and man where they hot. Good thing the wife didn't see this one, just can't figure how in the hell I got on the mailing list.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 11:18 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
cai: Wiseguy!
Wild Bill ( 152.163.213.61 ) at 10:54 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Tony C: Are you now saying the Energy performs as well as the SVS? Becasue I can tell you that you've already proven that it doesn't. It's that "pressurized" feeling you felt from the SVS. It covers a frequency range (true low bass) at an SPL that the Energy can't touch. They may "sound" the same and in fact the Energy may "sound" better because it probably has a hump between 35 and 50hz. The sub manufacturers do this because it's a range people can still here and if they build the hump in it gives the appearance of more bass. All it really is is unnatural sounding bass. I think you'll find that the SVS is incredibly tight when it comes to bass and that it defeinitely pressurizes the room. The settings that you described seem reasonable to me. JohnO and I set the colume on the sub we set up at about 3 also. A little bit went a long, long way with the SVS we set up. Just some food for thought.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 10:53 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
CHC: Are you two guys by any chance talking about "Anna KOURNIKOVA"?
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 10:31 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
forget it. Hello voice recognition
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 10:31 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
good lord, make that Kornakova
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 10:29 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
RickMTB: Because 2 cost a lot more than one?
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 10:28 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
DTC problem
CHC: Good news/ bad news. The DTC is probably fine. I hooked up a 21" monitor to it and Kornakove (hint, hint - ESPN2) looks better than ever.
It has to be a problem with the TW65. Now it's having a hard time syncing to anything the DCT puts out.
A 3rd culprit could be my AA transcoder converting the DCT RGB output to component. I think the TV heard me say I was about to sell it. Can you imagine if this had happened after I sold it to my neighbor? It's all good because this is the 1 piece of my HT I took out an extended waranty on.
RickMTB ( 216.119.135.65 ) at 10:24 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
CHC: I recall an article a while back by Tom Noussaine that suggested that multiple subs was problematic (cancelling standing waves I believe), but in practice you see more and more systems comprised of multiple subs. For example, the Vandersteen HT setup recommends two of their subs (partly because the sub goes pretty high up in the frequency range and using two subs lessens the localization effect. Heck, if having two subs was automatically bad, then why does one of the premier speaker systems (Wilson Watt/Pup use two subs?
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 10:23 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Tony C: There's only one, for screwups like me & Royco! Look up his bio & you'll find it. We didn't mix too well in the late 60's with all the bankers and Chicago Merchantile Exchange Brass on the streets. I used to hang out at the Federal Building attending the Chicago 7 trial.
WSDM was one of the greatest all jazz radio stations ever, anywhere. All of their DJ's happened to be beautiful & smart women who would do appearances at Hef's place near the Drake in nighties. My best friend got close to the most ravishing of all the WSDM DJ's named Copper (the color of her hair). Being all of 16 and really into jazz when I met her, I think I proposed marriag on the spot!
Their tagline (and location on the old analog dail) was "WSDM, smack dab in the middle of your FM dial. (from the Ray Charles song). You kids have no idea what I'm talking about, do you
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:14 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
I have to tell you guys that the customer service from SVS is really good. They are great at getting back to you and they are real accomodating. Nice guys.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:11 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
CHC: Man I can't recall a HS in the loop. What's WSDM?
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 10:09 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Tony C: Yeah - I'm too pooped to recall who asked about setting up multiple subs, hence the search clue.
My folks were in the western 'burbs. Mike & I attended the same HS smack dab in the middle (don't tell me WSDM is gone too) of the loop.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:02 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
CHC: do a search here?
Why would it be bad if you have conrol of the phasing?
So tell me what school you and Royko graduated from. I know you were in the burbs by high school.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 9:56 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Tony C: Cool as the idea sounds, multiple subs in the same room is almost always a bad thing. Do a search from about a month ago.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 9:53 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Oh great
My DCT100 seems to be on the fritz. In geek terms the picture is all f*%#ed up! Color convergence at both the felt & right 1/3rd of the screen is suddenly way off and the whole picute has gone from a perfect 16:9 to a trapazoid shape.
Just in time for the Super Bowl. Stupid 90 day warranty. *&^%$%#%(*&__()
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 9:51 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
My ears hurt. I feel like I just came back from a 3 hour gig.
OK, I was getting some distortion from the SVS. My fault. Back when I was testing the blown sub, I hooked up a Y cord to the Lex. When I plugged in the SVS, I put both inputs in only because I didn't remember which one was hot. Well they both were. OK, so the sub sounded smoother after that...BUT, I till have it cranked WAY down on the Lex, like -9 and I have the volume control on the sub at like 3.
Then I plugged the old sub back it. Just picked it up today from the shop. And I gotta tell ya, it sounded pretty good. Like every bit as good. I'll play some more tomorrow.
To test the subs, I used the dts demo disc #4. It includes the bedroom scene from THe Haunting, the picnic scene from ANTZ and the tank scene from Saving Private Ryan.
So, I"m thinking that if I keep my old sub, I just may buy one of those litte energy subs that comes with the Take 5 set up and put it on the side of the room behind the couch. I added more bass and saved $500.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 9:36 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Darian: The iScan Pro & Shampoo should work nicely together. I don't suppose you need a safe "offsite" (like 3,000 miles away) location for that service remote by any chance?
Looking forward to your impressions of both.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 9:33 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Computer Geeks Help - OT
AVB: Can't help AVBabe with that request. I do have a sealed box MS SQL Server 7.0 incl. 5 Client Access Licenses. Email if any interest.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 9:29 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Cajun Mike: LOL! Impose limitations on the quality of women you choose to meet and you will not excede them. Aim higher.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 9:25 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
Wild Bill: I feel for you man. Why do you think my injury took at least 2 years to fully heal? That's right, going out on the old roundball court too early.
This might make you feel better. A good friend had her horse fall on her while playing arena polo. 5 very serious compound fractures in the right leg. The owner of the arena wouldn't allow anyone to call an ambulance because it seems he forgot to pay his insurance premium. So they loaded her on the back of a stifly sprung Jeep and drove a few miles over very rough roads - then dispatched an ambulance! She was in a full toe to hip cast for 14 months and hated most of the time. Her doctor caught her playing polo in it & gave her both barrels.
So you see, things could be worse. Let it heal on its own timetable. Push it & I promise you'll be in even more pain.
AVB ( 64.41.33.221 ) at 9:18 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
FP PSA
From AVScience: http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002507.html
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 8:40 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Chris L: I second that "amen".
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 8:36 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
oops - he'll have to (gasp) DRIVE to work
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 8:35 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
Kieran: I don't suppose you guys bothered asking the price of media for this format, did you? If it what I think it is, your excitement may be severely dampened.
Jobs & Co. only lost 1/4 billion$ last quarter. I'm as big a former Mac user fan as anyone but as innovative as their products are, they have less & less market share buy the moment. The board is actually considering taking away Job's private helicopter (honest) and he'll have to drive (gasp) from Wood$ide to Cupertino. He may be an amazing bizman but I know several people who will gladly tell you he's one of the biggest jerks on the planet & apparently proud of the fact.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 8:32 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Kieran: Did you happen to read this:
About Rear Center Surround Channel Technology
The current standard for digital home theaters is based on 5.1 encoding and decoding. "5.1" means that there are six channels that are recorded and reproduced discretely, or independent from one another. "5" refers to the five channels whose speakers reproduce a wide frequency range: left front, center front, right front, left surround, and right surround, while ".1" refers to a sixth bass-only channel for the subwoofer.
Dolby Laboratories recently developed a process for recording engineers to mix an additional wide-range channel that is used to reproduce rear center surround (CS) effects. This has come to be known as "6.1" or "Surround-EX." Dolby Surround EX and DTS-ES Matrix are techniques used to encode a rear center surround channel into the LS and RS channels of a 5.1 digital recording. THX Surround EX is Lucasfilm's name for licensing Dolby Surround EX when it is used in consumer products.
Dolby Surround EX specifications include two rear surround speakers to improve sound distribution across the back of movie theaters (or a very wide home theater room). Some companies call their systems "7.1" when there are two rear surround speakers, but their source is still a single rear center surround channel. Dolby Surround EX encoding and THX Surround EX decoding are both based on Dolby Pro Logic technology that was developed in the 1980s.
To create a rear center surround channel, Parasound has chosen a newer and more sophisticated matrix decoding technology called Circle Surround. Compared to Dolby Surround EX, Circle Surround provides superior reproduction of center surround effects with "6.1"-encoded movies as well as deriving more effective rear center surround effects from normal 5.1- encoded sources.
The Parasound CSE 6.1 reproduces its rear center surround channel from any sound track or music encoded for Surround EX or DTS-ES Matrix. It offers two identical center surround outputs, so you may use one or two CS channel amplifier channels and speakers to suit your home theater¹s size and room acoustics.
The CSE 6.1 has a unique "6.1 Info" indication LED. This LED illuminates when the CSE 6.1 recognizes potential rear center surround channel information present in the left and right surround channels. Because the CSE 6.1 doesn't require a 6.1-encoded digital bitstream to derive a rear center surround channel, it can enhance surround effects in many digital 5.1 channel sources and even many two channel digital or analog sources recorded in Pro Logic or simply rich with ambient spatial information.
The CSE 6.1 also includes a rear subwoofer output with its own switchable low-pass crossover. Over the top? We don't think so. When sound comes from behind you, it simply can't "connect" it to the low frequency sound emanating from a subwoofer that is located in front of you. A special effects explosion or airplane fly-over coming from behind you sounds much more convincing when its bass frequencies come from the same plane as the rear speakers. A rear sub preserves the timbre and coherence of front-to-rear panned effects.
AVB ( 64.41.33.221 ) at 8:21 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Computer Geeks Help - OT
If anybody has access to Microsoft Visual Sourcesafe 6.0 for C++ could you email my wife a copy so she can practice with it. It's about 9.8 megs. Gratitude would be heaped upon you. ank1@onemain.com
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 8:18 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
How about a new DTC100 + Plus Dish for $499?
T-Man: Just a 30 secind lookup on eBay returned this: You do have to be a new DirecTV customer and sign up for 12 months. Give them your dogs name.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1208713775
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE BIDDING. USA CREDIT/DEBIT CARD ORDERS ONLY. This is a BRAND NEW FACTORY SEALED (w/ 1 yr. warranty) RCA DTC-100 DolbyDigital 5.1 AC3 COMPLETE DSS System with
2 DUAL LNBs, 4x4 multiswitch and Eliptical DIRECTV PLUS (ParaTodos) DISH but to bid you MUST be a NEW, 1st-time residential DIRECTV subscriber who activates HU access card in receiver by 2/10/01 and keep active 12
consecutive months @ minimum $21.99/mo. This unit is brand new in factory sealed box from authorized RCA dealer. Comes with full original factory warranty. Be careful buying from
non-authorized sellers with previously molested units out of warranty who do not include the expensive DIRECTV PLUS dish necessary to run this unit! *********** Your TV may be standard, but the programming can be digital.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 8:09 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Chicago Pizza
Tony C: "Pepsi, Pepsi ... no Coke"
Gino's & Due's have changed? You meant the only thing worth going back for now is to see old GF's? Mike Royko and I graduated from the same school - you'll never guess which one.
CHC ( 206.170.6.6 ) at 8:05 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
OT
RickMTB: MAN, are the ProLiant DL360's ever a hot item on the used market! I now have no fewer than 8 customers involved in the mother of all bidding wars.
I think I could retire early if I were to get into the Registered RAM business, know what I mean?
AVB ( 64.41.33.221 ) at 7:57 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Cut back?
Scott "popcorn": Not really, I only seat 3 normally on the couch I have in the HT room. I was thinking about another one and need the room. As for the wife....she's going to let me paint the ceiling black so I don't see any problems from that end.
Derb ( 199.174.4.18 ) at 7:57 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
PS Audio
BAGMAN: Thanx for the input on the PS Audio. What do I do with all the rest of my conditioners? Tice, Power Wedge, Noise Trapper, Panamax Coax
I'll have to see if I can work it into the HT buget. Need to pay off the Krell amps, sometime around April. Need to get a PlayStation 2 as a temp for DVD, until I can get a Univ. Player with digital outputs for Audio DVD. Then it's on to looking for the mother of all subs, by then the HDTV should be worked out and a new FP or 70"+ RP is in order.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.99 ) at 7:45 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
AVB
AVB: so your wife is making you cut back the HT, eh?
AVB ( 64.41.33.2 ) at 7:43 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
AVB
Joe: Moving things around and looking for a little more room. If I can move the towers out of the back and mount some new ribbon bookshelf models I'll gain almost 3' of space on the back. Another row of seats perhaps.
AVB ( 64.41.33.2 ) at 7:41 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Miked: No winner. Keep it until the next time please.
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 6:58 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
BAGMAN: Yes they did. The news up here is saying, Now the Wolverines have a new coach to get fired
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.192 ) at 6:57 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Chris L.: Ahhh...the old rapid post button. Too much caffeine for me today.
Joe ( 64.12.105.49 ) at 6:57 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
AVB
I have heard some of those big VMPS speakers. Why are you getting rid of them?
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.192 ) at 6:57 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Cajun Mike: It's amazing how much disposable income you have when you are single.
Amen to that, brother. People always ask me why I haven't settled down, gotten married, had kids. I just think of my HT and shrug.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.192 ) at 6:57 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Cajun Mike: It's amazing how much disposable income you have when you are single.
Amen to that, brother. People always ask me why I haven't settled down, gotten married, had kids. I just think of my HT and shrug.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.99 ) at 6:30 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Kieran: Ahhh... but the rest still doesn't make much sense... it seems to me that when a center channel is extracted you have to remove the components from the input signals... running the rear amps from the receiver has this problem, and you still need a mono amp for the center rear (or two channel amp for two center rear speakers)
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:24 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Scott "popcorn": Okay, I figured out one small part of that Parasound reply. By "LT and RT" he means a stereo LefT and RighT input signal, as opposed to two discreet digital channels ala 5.1 LS and RS.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.28 ) at 6:06 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Wild Bill: They were supposed to announce Tressle today at 4pm. Did they?
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.149 ) at 5:51 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Cajun Mike: "The next slut I marry". LOL!! Thanks for the laugh. Hell, just keep your money and screw around with the sluts. No need to marry one.
Miked ( 24.112.158.233 ) at 5:28 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Tony C:
There is a guy over on HT Forum that has 8, yes eight of the SVS subs, he can't have a roof left or and thing hanging on the wall anywhere in the house. By the way, they are in the prototype phase of their new "SS" SVS super sub.
AVB:
Did anyone win the trivia, Who do you want me to send that screener to??
Cajun Mike ( 209.124.207.21 ) at 5:26 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Darian: I skipped out on several generations of receivers after several years of divorce proceedings.
It's amazing how much disposable income you have when you are single. I should have remembered from college. Except this it totally different. You would think that two quality jobs would equal double the fun...wrong...That Bitch would spend her money and then dip into mine... Never again. The next slut I marry will have her own separate checking account. LOL
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:13 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Pronto ZAP!
I was playing around with the system.
I had the Pronto in my right hand while I was standing and went to touch the Pre/pro when a static electric arc shocked me. No biggie, it happens in winter. I went to hit the Pronto and nothing. Every button, or knob, was dead. I was panicking. I took it up stairs and put new batteries in and it worked. Man was I lucky.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 5:05 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Wild Bill & Cajun: Well, I still have to play around with it some. I have to tell you that it blew me away with the amount of base and the SPL the thing throws out. I CAN NOT believe that anyone would need more than one of these and yet one guy has four!
I'm going to play with it tonight and do some more tweaking.
I know I already had it wrong. I am using the Lex to cross over at 40hz, but I didn't put the SVS by-pass switch in the on position. So, I'm going to play with that now. right after I build my new Boltz DVD rack.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:54 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Tony
Tony C: Don't forget... our good friend Robert lives in Mpls.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 4:51 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Tony
Joe: I was just there on the 11th and 12th.
I got to Puerto Rico next week, and then to Mpls the week after that.
Let's see then it's Feb right? I think I'll be in Detroit and/or Cleveland with some tours in Feb. I'll certainly keep you posted.
Darian ( 66.44.13.24 ) at 4:48 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SWEET! My Rep called and my first batch of PROs will come in either Friday or Monday! Also my cohorts at work caved and I get a Shampo with Service remote for mi casa MONDAY!
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.13 ) at 4:34 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions & driving right by
Tony C: You didn't drive buy. We are still in the Keys waiting to take possession and that should be on Feb. 15th,if all goes well. The offer to stop in still stands.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.13 ) at 4:26 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions & the rum drink
Joe: Tell me whats in it and I'll have Mrs. BAGMAN give a review. I, of course, will give it a try too. I must have missed your news,congrats!
AVB ( 64.41.32.32 ) at 4:22 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Michael "El"
Kieran: I wrote him when you made that post. I was wondering if anybody had something more current.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.13 ) at 4:17 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Derb: The PS P300 is an interesting product. To get right to the point,yes you can "hear" what it is doing. When you first power it up,with whatever gear you have plugged into it,you would probably think "is that it". However,once you sit back and relax the first thing you'll notice is that no matter how quiet you thought your system was,it is now even quieter. Now we get to the even more subjective stuff,after awile you'll begin to notice that everything is just more "there". To prove to myself that I wasn't just wishing and hoping,I had a friend that was very familiar with my system's sound,without telling him what was new or different,give the system a listen. After a few minutes he said everything sounded more life like or more pronounced. He wasn't sure which adjective was more correct. Then there is the power factor,where you can increase the khz the thing puts out from standard 60 to 120. Lots of people have theirs set up around 90 or so. I found that I prefer mine set at 65. Again,subjective and equipment related,I think. I use three of the four plugs, with my Nova being the main and most important unit plugged in. Lastly, it also works as a surge protector. We had a power outage and before I copuld throw the main breaker the power came back on,some of my less inportant stuff was plugged into a Panamax 1000+,the Panamax came right back on with the overload/over voltage lights maxed out in the red. The ps P300 didn't come back on untill I went over and turned it back on,long after the power had stabalized. The final test is,after you've had it awhile go back and unplug the stuff that you had plugged into it and give your system a listen,then you can "hear" what it has been doing. IMO,it does what it is advertised to do and I like mine and am glad I bought it. I ordered mine from http://www.audionut.com/cgi-bin/nut.storefront. This guy is nuts but was a pleasure to buy from.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 4:13 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Scott "popcorn": You should d/l the manual (.pdf format) and look at it. There are LS and RS line level inputs AND outputs! This to me, (and according to their diagrams) means that you feed it the LS and RS from the receiver, then the CSE outputs LS, CS, and RS at line level. How they get powered is beyond me.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.99 ) at 3:45 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Kieran: What I got from the first answer was that you just use the LS and RS amps in the reciever (without pass-through) But this doesn't take into account subtracting the CS channel from the LS and RS... So, CS would be +3db in theory. (or less, depending on how well your LS and RS image, but it still would be above 0db) However, in this case you would only need one amp for the CS... Still, IMO, a very %*$(@#-rigged solution.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.149 ) at 3:13 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Michael "El"
AVB: I sent a couple of e-mails back and forth with "El" late last summer. He said hi to everyone but doesn't seem to have the time or the inclination to participate anymore.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.149 ) at 3:08 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Tony C: So, you like it?
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.149 ) at 2:58 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
BAGMAN: The SVS sub is made by SVS Subwoofers. SVS was started by Tom V and Ron Stimpsom from HTF. So far, their subs are a huge hit. You can purchase them in powered or unpowered versions. The unpowered subs are shipped much more quickly than the powered versions. I will be getting an unpowered sub when my income has risen. I have some jobs that are starting to trickle in so (to me) it's just a matter of time until I will be where I want to be.
The recovery is going slowly. I've had two intense bouts with pain. One was last night. I went out with Anamaria on a couple of errands yesterday and I guess I overdid it. We've borrowed a wheelchair and I think I'll use the chair for at least the next week or so. I'm going to the doctor next week to have my sutures removed. I'll probably beg the doctor for a cast that can be removed for showers and baths at that time. The cast becomes claustrophobic after time and I would really like to have some fresh air and a tiny amount of mobility. I understand that my lower leg needs to be completely immobilized for 8 weeks so my guess if that I'll leave the doctors' office with a regular cast next Wednesday. Well, that'sw probably more information than you wanted so I'll stop now.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:54 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Michael "El"
AVB: Here's the post I made in November:Kieran ( 205.253.147.42 ) at 10:29 AM PST Monday, November 27, 2000
Michael "El"
Hey guys... Someone asked about "El" a couple days ago. I emailed and heard back from "El" the other day. He said to say hello to everybody here. He recently has been dealing with some health issues. He's okay, but life's not easy for him right now, I think. Anyway, I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from some of you if you want to drop him a line. The email address on his member bio works.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:52 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Michael "El"
AVB: Do a search. I wrote to him about a month or so ago, and posted here about it. He struggled with some health problems last year. I suggested that some of us write him and let him know we're still here, miss his presence, etc.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:50 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Scott "popcorn": I know, that's how I feel too. I fully understand how EX works, with matrixing the CS channel into the LS and RS channels. This is why none of what I've read so far (or almost none) about the Parasound makes sense.
His first answer makes absolutely NO SENSE to me at all. I've looked at the Parasound manual, and all it has are line level inputs and outputs. So, you HAVE to amplify the output of the CSE6.1, which means for most receivers, you'll have to buy additional external amplifiers. This Mark guy seems to say this isn't so. I don't see how that can be.
The second answer is pretty cryptic, too. He says that the LS, CS, and RS channels all get their bass management from the host processor. Yet their specs SAY that the CS channel from the CSE6.1 is limited to a low end of ~100Hz. Is this guy clueless or what?
Anybody have anything to add here? I expected a lot more from a company like Parasound. I'm going to write back to the guy, but thought I should hash out my thoughts here first, and see if anybody can explain things better to me. Maybe I'm just really misunderstanding things....
JBC ( 207.164.221.149 ) at 2:44 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
AVB: Page 177 of the Feb 2001 HT Magazine has oicture of the MKIII Cinepros with the nes faceplates as does there website. The faceplates must be ready!! Ron H: You have e-mail on this subject...
AVB ( 64.41.33.12 ) at 2:38 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Michael "El"
I just dropped a line to "EL". Anybody heard from him that last few months?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.99 ) at 2:33 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
Kieran: Well, I can tell you that the first answer doesn't sit right with me... He states that you don't have to use the LS and RS of the CSE6.1. I would think that if you're taking a center signal from the LS and RS, then you would need to subtract that signal from the LS and RS or else you'll be doubling the center signal. (+3db)
I don't understand the statment about LT and RT... But as for the seperate processor, that makes sense... all DD EX (also DTS ES) does is apply a 4-2-4 matrix decoder to the rear channels, as if they were the main channels in a pre-5.1 home theater. EX, to my knowledge, uses a "steering" like Dolby Pro Logic, while DTS ES doesn't use logic steering.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 2:30 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
Carlos: You were in the SF bay area last week and didn't let me or Curtis or BYork know???? what kind of HT bud are you? Just kidding, I'm sure you were busy... but if you ever are in the area again, let us know!
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:20 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
I forgot to add... I'm ordering a 733 G4 in March after I recover from paying $10,000 to rent my loft. I don't know about other cities but realtors in NYC are crooks. I thought realtors sold houses not rep for people renting apartments.
AVB ( 64.41.33.12 ) at 2:10 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Speaker Sale
Time to move some things around. For anybody in the DC/Balt area I have a set of VMPS SuperTower/R Special Editions for sale. CURRENT MODELS. List $3400 sell $1700 plus $100 delivery (I have to rent a truck) to anyplace within 100 miles of where I live. Description at http://www.vmpsaudio.com/ps6.htm and Pics at http://www.vmpsaudio.com/strpic.htm.
I also have a set of the previous generation that are slightly smaller (165lbs vs 220 lbs each) that are $1100 for the pair plus the above delivery. No shipping out of the area is available unless you want to pay some big bucks.
One of them has to go. Post or email me if you are interested.
Carlos ( 204.254.118.1 ) at 2:10 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
Kieran: Yes Kieran, I attended the Expo. The super drive is actually made by Pioneer. It writes DVD-Rs that can play on consumer DVD players. I'm not sure if the software is region free.
AVB ( 64.41.33.12 ) at 1:57 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
DTC-100 price
T-Man: The best I have found is here: http://www.abtelectronics.com/
Goto Video...Sat systems and when that page loads RCA. They don't allow direct links otherwise I would have posted it for you. $488 with free shipping.
If you want to get on the waiting list for the Sony SAT-HD100 it is $699 plus shipping here for just the receiver. http://www.orbitsat.com/
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 1:56 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Apple & Steve Jobs & DVD recording
Check out this article on the Mac Expo last week.
In it, you'll find this text:(The New PowerMac G4's) All have CD-ROM read and rewrite drives and the high-end 733-gigahertz model has a combination CD-ROM and DVD read and rewrite ``SuperDrive'' made by Pioneer.
andThe other software unveiled is iDVD, which is used for creating DVD movies and slide shows that can be played on computers and on regular consumer DVDs for television.
Jobs said that in a software breakthrough, it allows the burning of DVDs at 2X speeds, compared to programs that now will write at 25X speeds. It means it takes an hour to record a 30-minute program, compared to 12.5 hours.
The software comes standard on the high-end Power Mac with the SuperDrive.
Jobs also announced a professional DVD Studio Pro software package for visual effects, graphics and design, at a price of $995.
Anybody heard anything about this "superdrive" and the software that goes with it? Sounds pretty... uh... super!
Joe ( 64.12.105.52 ) at 1:38 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Tony
When are you in the Detriot area again?
Joe ( 64.12.105.52 ) at 1:34 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Expansive Post
T-Man: I have not seen the new ones, but the last time I looked at Marantz they had a nice set. I see in adds they have 16:9 sets now.
Darian ( 66.44.13.24 ) at 1:31 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Cajun: how many genertions did you skip on the receiver purchase? Intentionally planning to wait from you could be indefinate amount of time.
Just messing with you!
I am fighting with my cohort at work to let me have a Sampo 34"HD. gonna look a little strange with the Sony KP61HS10 in the same theater. Gotta move off my big TV and get a Direct View and a projector for movie night. One of the really cool things about my DVD player is that it has RGB and a VGA out. Both can be active at the same time. No moving cables from projector to monitor for critical viewing!
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.220.4 ) at 1:27 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
My next purchase...
I think I'm a sicko but I'm already having upgrade fever. My next purchase will be a DVD player with DVD Audio and progressive scan. Im going to wait a generation or so for all the stuff to get worked out and for the prices to drop.
My next purchase will be a Front projection system. Maybe the Sony. I will ditch the hometheater cabinet and either sell my XBR or put it in my bedroom. ...Then I'll purchase some nice hometheater racks for my hardware.......Then hometheater seating? ;P
Cajun Mike ( 206.124.220.4 ) at 1:22 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Tony C: Tony you are the man...keep us posted. Mine isnt showing up for another three weeks. You were obviously ahead of me on the list.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 1:14 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
T-Man: Being that SRP is now $549, anything under $549 would be a good price IMHO, as they are often hard to find for less than retail.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 1:13 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 part two - the reply
I have been reading about the CSE 6.1 on your web site, and have heard some great reviews of it from users on the internet. I'm very interested in the product, but I have a few questions.
1st off, FYI, I have a Yamaha RX-V995 5.1 dd/dts receiver, which is my primary processor, and power source for driving my main speakers. I understand that I will need to not only get an amplifier for the new CS channel, but also for the existing LS & RS channels because my receiver does not have a loop back ability (i.e. no "main amp inputs") to amplify the LS & RS channels once they have been sent out via the preamp outputs.
If you have line level LS and RS surround outputs on the receiver, you should still be able to use its LS and RS amp stage. All the CSE 6.1 needs is a LS and RS source to create the Cs channel. The LS and RS on the CSE 6.1 outputs are there if you are using separate amps.
OTOH, if there are no LS and RS outs, you would need to pad the speaker outputs and use an additional LS and RS amp.
You recommend setting the LS and RS outputs as "full" or "large" from the primary 5.1 processor. Does this mean that the rear sub output of the cse6.1 carries bass information for all THREE surround channels, or does it only carry bass information for the CS channel?
For example, if my LS and RS speakers only extend down to about 80 or 90 Hz, and I set the 5.1 processor's output for LS and RS to "large" where will the information below 80 Hz go? Will it be sent to the rear sub? If so, good. If it is sent to the RS and LS speakers, then it would be "lost". Correct?
If you set the host processor to large for the LS and RS, bass information will be sent to LS, RS, CS and sub. The sub switch is merely a lowpass filter for the subwoofer channel. The LS, RS and CS channels obtain theri bass management from the host processor.
If yo consider the CSE 6.1 a surround processor, perhaps it would make more sense:
The LS and RS inputs correrspond to the main inputs
the LS and RS out correspond to the main left and right out
CS corresponds to the center out
The "special" outs correspond to the LS and RS outs.
Of course, since all the channels are derived from discrete LS and RS the processing is very different than if it were derived from LT and RT signals.
Best Regards,
Andy Murray
Okay, so now I'm even more confused. Anybody care to take a shot at answering the question I asked (see my previous post?) This guy didn't seem to answer any of the directly.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 1:03 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
price for DTC100
T-Man: You better duck man.
Do a search. Lot's of info here.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 1:00 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
SVS
Ok my sub was delivered to my office and I went to pick it up this morning.
When I unpacked it, despite three layers of cardboard and bubble wrap, there was a dent on the top metal grill. I was bummed but not detered.
I just hooked it up and turned stuff on. The term that Wild Bill used, "pressurized" is the first thing that came to my mind. Man, it pounded my ears. Then I went back and played with adjustments.
I don't know how this happened, but my VT2's were set to small. I think I did it by accident when I set up the borrowed sub.
Set up the speakers again. Changed the cross over on the Lex from 80 (where I had it for the borrowed sub) and set it to 40. Set the volume on the sub to almost 3/4 and set the crossover to 60, which is as low as it goes.
QUESTION: Should I turn the cross over off on the sub? I do have that option.
So, I got back to the dts demo disk #4 and had a ball. The bass was still pressurizing the room. No location problems and there were things shaking that I never heard shake before. I still have to play around with it a little more. glad I have today and tomorrow off. I may just plug in the old sub and compare one more time.
T-Man ( 216.151.65.196 ) at 12:54 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
CHC: What's a good price for the DTC100?
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 12:53 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Expansive Post
T-Man: I agree with RickMTB. I actually had a Pioneer bought, but backed down at the last minute and saved a grand by buying the Sony. My logic was to replace with HD sooner. I'm still waiting.
I passed that Chicago Pizza place lots of times and only smiled.
But honestly, Chicago Pizza isn't Chicago pizza anymore. All the original places Like Gino's and Due's have changed some how. They also have a place called "Cheeze Burger, Cheeze Burger", obviously an attempt to copy Billy Goat Tavern, made famous by John Balushi. And you know, even the Billy Goat ain't the same. Mike Royko is in heaven crying.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 12:53 PM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Parasound CSE6.1 two part post
If you recall about a week ago, I posted that I had written an email to Parasound asking questions about their CSE6.1 EX/ES add-on box. Here's a repost of the letter I sent, I'll post the reply I just got next.
**************repost******************
I downloaded the manual for this thing, and had a few questions. So I emailed the sales staff at Parasound. Here's what I wrote in case any of you can answer these questions first:
I have been reading about the CSE 6.1 on your web site, and have heard some great reviews of it from users on the internet. I'm very interested in the product, but I have a few questions.
1st off, FYI, I have a Yamaha RX-V995 5.1 dd/dts receiver, which is my primary processor, and power source for driving my main speakers. I understand that I will need to not only get an amplifier for the new CS channel, but also for the existing LS & RS channels because my receiver does not have a loop back ability (i.e. no "main amp inputs") to amplify the LS & RS channels once they have been sent out via the preamp outputs.
I did download the manual, but I couldn't find the answers to the following questions there.
You recommend setting the LS and RS outputs as "full" or "large" from the primary 5.1 processor. Does this mean that the rear sub output of the cse6.1 carries bass information for all THREE surround channels, or does it only carry bass information for the CS channel?
For example, if my LS and RS speakers only extend down to about 80 or 90 Hz, and I set the 5.1 processor's output for LS and RS to "large" where will the information below 80 Hz go? Will it be sent to the rear sub? If so, good. If it is sent to the RS and LS speakers, then it would be "lost". Correct?
If the rear sub output only carries bass information for the CS channel, then why does it have an adjustable LPF, when the HPF for the CS channel is fixed at 100Hz?
This area of the owner's manual could use a LOT more detail and clarification. I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about such things, and could not figure out exactly how the bass management works for the CSE 6.1.
One part that really confused me, was where the manual stated the following:
"We recommend your 5.1 surround controller... is setup for 'large' LS and RS channel speakers (unless you are using really small LS and RS speakers)."
What do you mean by "really small ... speakers?" You go on to say this:
"If you absolutely must use the 5.1 host processor's 'large' settings for your surround speakers, simply advance the rear sub level to compensate for the bass filtering."
This doesn't make sense. Just before it said that you recommend using the "large" setting on the host 5.1 processor. Then you say "if you absolutely must use the ... 'large' setting..." It reads as though you are contradicting yourself. I suspect that the word "large" in this case should have said, "small," but then I don't understand the second part about "advance the rear sub level to compensate..."
What are the dropoff slopes for the rear sub output's LPF, and the CS channel output's HPF?
What is the frequency range of the "special" (overhead) channel, and from where is the information extracted? If I don't use the "special" output, am I loosing some sound that had been extracted from the LS & RS matrixed material?
One final question, what is the suggested retail price of the CSE 6.1?
Thanks for your help, I look forward to hearing from you soon, and I hope you can clarify some of my confusion.
Yours Sincerely,
Kieran Coghlan.
***********end repost*************
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.124 ) at 11:43 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Expansive Post
T-Man: Every time I see a Pioneer Elite placed next to any other brand I believe the Pioneer looks better, with the best combination of clarity and smoothness...
CHC ( 206.170.6.93 ) at 11:04 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
er I meant the 56" RP
CHC ( 206.170.6.93 ) at 11:03 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
T-Man: There are numerous "Chicago-style" pizza parlors around SF, none of them know what they're doing. Do you know what the Benihana of Toyko chain calls its establishment in Tokyo? Benihana of New York!
For RP's I like the Tosh 65 16:9. They are highly tweakable and if the innards are anything like its big brother, a solid/ reliable performer.
At the moment the DTC100 is still about the only affordable HD tuner option. Panasonic's new box is due out soon (of course they've beein saying this for 8 months now). Whatever you do don't get an internal HD tuner because you'll be stuck with it when better/cheaper STB's become available.
T-Man ( 209.114.157.143 ) at 10:08 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Expansive Post
Bagman : An expansive post my Floridian friend. Just what kind of station are you trying to pull in in Tampa??
Tony C : My wife and I have enjoyed Marco many times. By the way, there is a little Pizza shop on the island called Taste of Chicago. My guess is it doesn't begin to compare with true Chicago pizza. That said, they have a stuffed crust pizza that I do like. The thing weighs about 20 pounds.
All I am closing in on deciding to pull the trigger on a 16:9, HDTV ready RPTV. Any suggestions for something around $4,000 in the 53" to 58" range? I have been impressed with both a Pioneer and and a Toshiba that I have seen. Lastly, how much would a decent HDTV tuner run and what model would you recommend. TIA.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.18 ) at 10:02 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Something new to drool over
AVB: I'm almost afraid to ask. How much?
RickMTB ( 207.18.199.140 ) at 9:58 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Best sounding music System for the Money?
Gar: OK, I will bite... I would recommend a pair of Vandersteen 2c (whatever their current model) at something around $1400 pair (full range, image well, few weaknesses), a B&K ST1400 stereo amp which I believe is less than $500 (smooth, tube-like sound, with some power but silky mids and highs); and a Superphon preamp (kinda "straightwire", but again, tube-like in its sound). If you want simplicity, a NAD receiver. If you can't find the Superphon, then a Hafler or B&K preamp will do. CD? Cambridge Audio, CAL, or Marantz will complete the setup.
JT ( 209.184.244.247 ) at 9:46 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Pronto
Guys, I have a friend looking for a Pronto. Where is the cheapest place to purchase one? Also, if any of you are wanting to sell one, he might consider a used one for the right price. Thanks!!
Gar ( 169.207.192.246 ) at 9:03 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Best sounding music System for the Money?
Ok this is the topic: I want you to list the best system you have heard for the money?
Mine would be: NAD Silver Series S-300 Intergrated and there balanced S-500
CD Player along with Joesph Audio Speakers.(RM7si signatures)
Gar ( 169.207.192.246 ) at 8:59 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Tuners
I like the Magnum Dynalabs but don't listen to that much music on the radio as much as I used to. But I have always liked NAD Tuners for the money.
Here is one I want if I ever go that route again..
http://www.nadelectronics.com/Tuner/S400.html
JBC ( 207.164.221.130 ) at 8:52 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
AVB: Notice that there is no price listed...
Derb: Do not yet have the new speakers. For what itis worth I am running an MX350-THX now and will be running a second.
AVB ( 64.41.32.2 ) at 8:42 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Something new to drool over
http://www.barco.com/projection_systems/products/product.asp?element=455
AVB ( 64.41.32.2 ) at 7:53 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Tuners
RickMTB: The Yamaha 950 is still being made and the list on it is $450. I have one and it works very well in my fringe area.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.141 ) at 12:30 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Gar; I'll have to search the catalogs at work. I remember seeing a row of PS2 cords 2 pages long.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.141 ) at 12:28 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Robert; I thought you posted that you picked up a Sony DirecTV/TIVO combo unit? If you did, how's it working out?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.141 ) at 12:27 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Joe; DOH! I forgot, and anyone else interested.....$5 off coupon for a purchase of $10 or more....enter coupon code "VISA" in shopping cart at checkout.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.141 ) at 12:24 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Joe; A lot of deals on www.half.com It's a division of e-bay so lots of used titles, but new in wrapper for cheap too.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.141 ) at 12:23 AM EST Thursday, January 18, 2001
Bagman; I've got an old Yamaha analog tuner I haven't used in years. Don't remember the model, but it still works great. It is quite large for just a tuner. If your interested, I'll search the boxes tomorrow. I'll let you have it for a song + shipping.
Ron H ( 63.26.163.169 ) at 11:46 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
Derb: LOL. You are one wild and crazy guy.
Joe ( 64.12.101.162 ) at 11:35 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Well I got my dose of Sela toninght. My friends here in town would never let me live down that I watch her show. It's good to know there are other sout there
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:27 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
SWEET!
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.19 ) at 6:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
Darians blow up: No big deal,I have always admired Darians "style" he can be eloquent or he can be blunt,that is life. He is always
informative!
I always liked you Bagman!
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 10:42 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
SW special ed. trilogy on LD
Several of us are lucky enough to own it. Although with prices of them selling on ebay, I at least am tempted to part with it. I have seen them go for around $200.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:36 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
SW special ed. trilogy on LD
Kieran: THe SW THX Definitive collection has a photo album, and a really neat hard covered, 207 page book about Lucas with a forward by Spielberg. 18 sides of LD (9 discs) that also include a tour of the museum with all the models and all the tricks.
Tony C ( 208.209.205.117 ) at 10:28 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
BAGMAN: I can't believe it! I thought you moved to Key West?
On Saturday I flew into Saratoga, and drove to Marco Island. I drove right past you man. I would have stopped in for a fruity frozen drink!
Maybe next year. My wife really likes the Golf side.
Anyway, to answer your question about SVS. Yes, just go to HTF and search for SVS, or just check the hardware page, as there is always a post about someone just getting there SVS. Mine just arrived and I will have it hooked up tomorrow with a review. The come passive or powered, three different models each. Supposedly a great boom for the buck. I'll find out tomorrow. Sorry I drove by without even waving.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.179 ) at 10:24 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
SW special ed. trilogy on LD
Kieran: Umm... 5 discs (Ep #4 on side 1,2,3, Ep #5 on 4,5,6, Ep #6 on 7,8,9) Also a single-folded poster-like sheet the size of 2 LDs when open. One side has a rendition of all three movie posters, and the chapter index, Other side has various pictures and an article talking about the special edition. Also on the discs, is a theatrical trailer (SE version) at the end of each movie, and 9 chapters on side 9 is a "making of" regarding the SE.
Gar ( 169.207.194.172 ) at 10:19 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Sela Ward
Scott "popcorn": Great last name, and I wish she was related. She gets better looking with Age to boot. And I agree with your statement, one of the most beautiful women on the planet, there are plenty.
Gar ( 169.207.194.172 ) at 10:18 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
SW special ed. trilogy on LD
Kieran: I have the box set you speak of, 5 LDs in CAV and a booklet with the nice box it comes in.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.179 ) at 10:17 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Chris L.: Sela Ward is the most beautiful woman on the planet.
I would not dare dispute you, but I have an addition to your statement:
Sela Ward is one of the most beautiful woman on the planet.
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.43 ) at 10:10 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Joe: I remember the Yammie 950 tuners as being particularly good. The tunes that were supposed to be the best were Magnum Dynalabs FT101 which were pure analog, but for whatever small sonic difference you lost the benefits of digital tuners. I have an NEC that is pretty good.
Derb ( 199.174.4.131 ) at 9:32 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
M&K
JBC: How do the new M&K's sound? Had a Celstron in Audio Concepts "Area 51" but were not allowed to touch it. Still looking for a possible sub. What M&K sub are you running?
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 9:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Evening gents.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.250 ) at 9:09 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
SW special ed. trilogy on LD
RGB, Popcorn, anyone else who owns this: How many seperate LD's are in this box set? Also, what came in the box set aside from the LD's themselves?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 8:44 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
HT on TV
http://www.hgtv.com/HGTV/episode/0,1101,DEID_episode_13149,00.html
Might be worth a look...
Joe ( 205.188.192.34 ) at 8:40 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Sela Ward
CHC: Don't forget she ison tonight @ 10:00 Now & Again
Joe ( 205.188.192.34 ) at 8:39 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
There are also some 950 tuners on Ebay, these are great recievers.
Joe ( 205.188.192.34 ) at 8:34 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Bagman
Heres a Tuner, I have this one myself.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1207554570
Joe ( 205.188.192.34 ) at 8:31 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Before I get slammed, I was answering Ricks question about women ( Sela) in leather pants
Joe ( 205.188.192.34 ) at 8:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
RickMTB: Because you think about the sound those leather pants would make coming off
Joe ( 205.188.192.34 ) at 8:26 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
BAGMAN: Yamaha makes some real good tuners. I have been just sticking to LaBatt Blue.
Now I was just thinking, my wife being pregent we have beeen trying different things for her to drink. This is tough trying to cut out the bad stuff.
We just had a Dole drink " Paradise Blend" I think with a little Rum on ice it would make a nice summer drink. Since you are in summer weather, I'll be waiting for results.
CHC ( 206.170.7.226 ) at 8:14 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Chris L.: I can't argue that. She's such a knockout that I actually used to sit through the chick-soap "Sisters" with my ex just to watch Sela.
CHC ( 206.170.7.226 ) at 8:13 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
New Sony Firmware
RGB: I think both Gar & AVB confirmed that the new surround fields are addressable from the front panel of the TA-E9000ES itself, meaning that you don't have to have the remote.
Can you guys with the upgrade confirm this & walk me thru the process pls?
Derb ( 199.174.4.131 ) at 8:12 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
ReTraction
I have said nothing about Rick MTB!! I am not responsible for any blood shead. These things I speak are true so help me god
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.43 ) at 8:11 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Chris L.: I can't disagree. Perhaps an interesting question someone can answer for me... why do women in tight black leather pants look even more beautiful?
RickMTB ( 216.119.145.43 ) at 8:10 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
Derb: Even joking about such a purchase would get me killed...
Derb ( 199.174.4.131 ) at 8:03 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
BAGMAN: The Houston Connection (HHTOC) went out on a little fact finding mission last weekend. In Audio Concepts they had the Power Company hooked up all around the show rooms. So we asked and we got answers, but none to sure about the real results one may obtain from such a unit. It has been said that the PS Audio has an improvement that can be "HEARD". This is an important trait and something to consider for possible purchase. Can you say it works? I know AVB the anti-tweak likes his and Gar has said don't bother with the Power Company. Your Thoughts?
This is the following purchases made by the HHTOC:
Rick MTB: Vandersteen Model 5 for front's (Going to use his old Vandy's for surrounds) and V2W Subwoofer.
Rich F: Martin Logan Prodigy fronts (Will retire the SL-3's to surround duties) And two BEL 1001 amps to fire them up.
RonH: Even though he had $150.00 bucks of fun money form the wife will be buying the Martin Logan Request's for front and (Put to work the SL-3's for surrounds) And get a BEL 1001 amp to drive them.
Myself: I never buy anything, these guys are nuts
RGB ( 64.18.6.191 ) at 7:58 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
New Sony Firmware
CHC: Isn't the new remote needed to access the new soundfields? I'm kind of thinking that the upgrade is pretty much worthless without the new remote - am I wrong?
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.155 ) at 7:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Sela Ward is the most beautiful woman on the planet.
CHC ( 206.170.7.226 ) at 7:25 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
AC-3 on LD
Kieran: I think I have that LD somewhere & recall the soundtrack was quite clear on my system. I doubt your copy is bad because after all it was used exclusively for demo purposes at a high-end dealer. If you're sure that your receiver displays no such thing (assuming same digital input is used) with DVD - then you're left with only 2 possible culprits
1) the B&K demod, or
2) your interconnect
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.244 ) at 7:21 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
iScan
Darian: Thanks dude. That's good info, and sounds like it will work wonderfully with my sat and 10HT(when I get it!).
Wild Bill: That's a good reason, I guess. I believe some things are disabled on the component ins on the 10HT, but most things are still user changeable, I believe.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:54 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
AC-3 on LD
trav1: Thanks... I'll do more testing when I get home. Maybe it's my B&K RF demodulator??? That would suck, as it's supposed to be a top of the line piece. Curtis suggested it might be the receiver I'm using, however I don't hear any hiss when listening to DVD's.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.31 ) at 6:52 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
SonicBit: Good. Thanks for taking care of the funds.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 6:50 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
AC-3 on LD
Kieran: I just popped in the Gump movie and did not hear the hiss that you are referring to. If that is the only DD LD that does it then one could surmise that it is that disc. Although I would hate for you to pick up another copy and have it exhibit the same abnormalities.
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 6:44 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
BAGMAN: Good to hear from you again. My 4 month old daugther is keeping me very very busy. Kids are great. Sounds like you are getting settled in.
SonicBit ( 4.3.227.78 ) at 6:40 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
BAGMAN: Yes, I have.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams (aka Linguistics 101)
cai: Come to think of it, 'shwa' (or however it's spelled) probably isn't the vowel sound you're describing... but I understand what you said anyway! Thanks.
BAGMAN ( 216.77.2.19 ) at 6:29 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Andy Rooney & random thoughts & questions
Darians blow up: No big deal,I have always admired Darians "style" he can be eloquent or he can be blunt,that is life. He is always informative!
Repeat questions: Another no big deal. Situations change, for example,in our new house I need to know how flat,"flat" wire is. In our old house I ran Monster 14g wire to the rears,down through the floor,under a crawl space,up through the floor,underneath crown molding,to my speakers. No one saw a bit of wire.It was perfect. In the new place I think I'll have to run the wire under the carpet to the rears. My question is,what can I run under some new carpet&pad,that will not be,shall we say,wife objectionable and be durable.
Tony C or Wild Bill: What is a svs sub? Is it a new sub made by Tom V from other forums. Is it a passive or an amped sub?
Who makes an economical tuner,I need to pull in Tampa,maybe 90 mi. away. My car can pull it in from further south than that by another 50 mi.,I think.
Michael AKA: How have you been,haven't talked to you in awhile. We moved,pretty sure we will be in Port Charlotte,Fla. We will be about 10 to 15 minutes east of I-75 so anybody heading down that way is close,stop in.
Derb & Gar: I have the PS Audio P300,what do you want to know?
Sonic Bit: The check was in the mail.Did you get it?
Joe: What is the beverage of the day?
Wild Bill: How is the recovery going? You're younger than me, I wouldn't want to go through it.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:27 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
cai: Thanks... didn't know that about the 've' part. I think the vowel sound you're looking for is the "shwa" which is written in dictionaries as an upside down 'e'. Can't find it in the Windows Character Map, though.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 6:23 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa": The first syllable is actually an umlaut pronunciation. (don't know why it's spelled LOE though) The way I was taught to pronounce an "ö" is to shape your lips as though you're going to say, "LOO" and then say "LO" (as in 'hoe' or 'foe' or 'know') through the "OO" lips.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 6:17 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
Kieran: You are correct in your pronunciation of Löwe. It is also written Loewe when the umlaut, the two dots on top of the "o" is not readily available on the keyboard. This word means lion in German. Although it may be more accurate to say "ve", as in "very", rather than "va".
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 6:02 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
Kieran: LOO-VA is what I have been told.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:59 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
headin home for the day, talk to yall tomorrow.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:59 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
since we both seem to be right, do another question and we can call it even.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:54 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
BTW, do you all know how to pronounce "Loewe"? Curtis and I were politely corrected the other day... apparently the proper way is to say it like "LOH-va". The "LOH" part is actually a mix of "LOO" and "LO".
All those who couldn't care less, raise their hands!
AVB ( 64.41.33.179 ) at 5:53 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Trivia
The source is The History Channel, They had a program on the tallest structures and specificly said that the Eiffel tower was the tallest because the Washington Monument was not completed.
I hit the web myself and can't get the info to jibe either. The Monument was offically opened to the public in 1888 while the Tower wasn't until 1889.
What the History Channel said was that the Great Pyramid was the tallest until the Tower was built. This was one of their questions that they ask before commercial break. I didn't bother to check it myself because....I mean, it IS the History Channel.
My apologies for the inconvieniance. I'll see if I can come up with another one soon.
Based on what I saw on the web, BC is correct so if he will send me an email I'll send the screener.
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 5:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
CHC: I would probably use 16:9 for all viewing. Loewe does a pretty good job of stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9 without making the image look greatly out of proportion.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:44 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
TRIVIA!
Kieran: Hmmm... on second thought I'm pretty sure I'm wrong, because by the time the antenna was built the Tower was no longer the tallest anyway. AVB: email me anyway, because I think I owe you for a previous wrong answer. I'll send $6. Unless of course I'm not wrong!
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:40 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
TRIVIA!
AVB: All right Mr. Trickster... I'll take a WAG at your question... I say the answer is the Eiffel Tower itself. When completed (the first time) it was 984 feet tall. Then much later a TV antenna was added, making the new total height 1,056 feet, for a difference (bonus question) of 72 feet.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:20 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
trivia
I actually was told that when I was in Vegas for CES. We went up in the eiffel tower there and the elevator girl was telling about it. I just researched it when I was wrong. I am sure AVB's source is correct in some sense.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 5:14 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
TRIVIA!
AVB: I was going to guess Washington Monument as well, although not based on the research BC did. I was in Paris this summer, and the tourist info there said that when completed, the Tour Eiffel surpassed the Washington Monument as the tallest man made structure in the world. Maybe you ought to disclose your source this time? Otherwise, I think BC deserves a win, if not at least a "bye".
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:08 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
FYI
The monument was the tallest man-made structure in the world from its completion in 1884 until surpassed by the newly built Eiffel Tower in 1889. It is still the world's tallest masonry structure.
From Britannica. I'll still pay, I just hate being told I am wrong! hehe
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 5:06 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
TRIVIA!
AVB: Well, ok but my research shows that the monument was completed in 1884 and the eiffel tower in 1889. I knew when I posted it though there would be some twist.
AVB ( 64.41.32.156 ) at 4:58 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
TRIVIA!
BC: Sorry BC, that is not correct. Please click on my name and send me an email so I can tell you where to send your donation. The reason you are not correct is that the Washington monument was not a completed structure. Those that rate things like this don't consider "works in progress"
CHC ( 206.170.7.226 ) at 4:55 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa": I pal has the 30" Loewe 16:9 direct view. While 4:3 material is small, there's amazing detail to the image. I'll swap some quantity for much better quality. The 38" sounds great. Wanna bet it'll be expensive?
BTW the best direct view dispal I have ever owned was a B&O 27" BeoVision. Almost filmlike and came with a very cool looking S-VHS VCR installed in a motorized base. When the TV was off it would turn away from the viewing position. The cool factor alone was impressive.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 4:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
TRIVIA!
AVB: that would be the washington monument.
AVB ( 64.41.33.118 ) at 4:13 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
TRIVIA!
What was the tallest man made structure prior to the Eiffel tower? Normal rules and a screener to the winner!
Bonus question for fun. How much taller was the tower?
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 3:36 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Joe: Ditto what John O said.
JohnO ( 140.183.114.30 ) at 3:32 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Joe: Online deals for DVDs are few and far between these days. Best Buy and sometimes Circuit City have been beating the net on the more "popular" movies on first release. I only use online stores for more obscure movies or ones that have been out for a while.
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 2:58 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
Kieran: Loewe is coming out with a 38" 16:9 TV as well. My problem is that I have space limitations. Since my room is not very large it would fit my needs for now. Eventually, it would probably go into the bedroom when I put a CRT FP in the next house.
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 2:50 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Where is this group buying DVDs online these days? I went to 800.com & DVD express and thought the prices where high. I was looking to pickup X-Men & Bruce Springsteen.
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 2:48 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
This afternoon I have been installing switch covers. I do not believe I have done anything more boring in my life. I find myself thinking of anything to do to get out of it. It's not hard just boring.
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 2:45 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Spring time colors
Joe ( 205.188.199.183 ) at 2:44 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Kieran, AVB
Thanks for your input.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:40 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa": Yeah, but... 30" 16:9? That's tiny! Maybe for the kitchen HT, huh?
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 2:28 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Direct view TV of my dreams
I was at the Great Indoors where a friend wanted me to see the new 32" Panasonic TVs. While there I saw the direct view TV of my dreams, Loewe Aconda 30" 16:9. Being demo'd was Gone in 60 Seconds on DVD. The Mustang chase scenes were phenominal. It was as if you were present on the street where the movie was being shot. I have not seen realism like this before. The scaler in this sets simply blows away the scalers that are used in most of the progressive scan DVD players. This was clearly evident by playing the same movie on other direct view TVs in the store. Even the XBR400 looked like crude compared the image quality produced on the Loewe.
Michael AKA "the proud new pappa" ( 129.239.3.55 ) at 2:14 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
LD
Call me crazy but I still prefer the DD tracks off LD better than I do from a dvd.
trav1: I agree 100%. Material like Eagles: Hell Freezes Over, Star Trek: First Contact, Last of the Mohicans and The Matrix, are some examples of what you are talking about.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 2:07 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
AC-3 on LD
Does anybody else have Forrest Gump in AC3 on LD? I'm wondering if the hiss I heard is from that specific LD. I didn't notice it while watching Star Wars, although there are fewer quiet parts in SW than in FG... and I wasn't listening as critically.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.218 ) at 1:55 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
OSU Rumor(off-topic)
BYork: Grudin? The Raiders coach? My understanding was that Tressell, Spielmann or Mason all had great interviews. It's a dream job for an of the three so I'd think that the Grudin rumor is simply speculation. Time will tell.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.218 ) at 1:54 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
PSA
Gar: Don't worry, I'm in no danger of "going postal". In all honesty there is no benefit to what you are trying to do...unless it's the only way to watch DVD on that particular TV. The image size problem is more than likely due to overscan on the part of the TV set. If you use Powerstrip to create the resolution then you can also resize the image to some degree with Powerstrip. YXY gives complete aspect ratio control but it must be used with a software DVD player (WinDVD or PowerDVD). I haven't seen a laptop yet that has the horsepower or the right video components to properly drive WinDVD or PowerDVD without severe stuttering. Again, if you're just using an S-Video connection to the TV a standalone DVD player is always a better solution than a laptop.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.130 ) at 1:37 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
resumé
Joe: Email coming your way.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.14 ) at 1:11 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
Kieran: I've never heard of them either. I'll take a look at the Asus and Abits. Thanks.
Kieran ( 156.153.255.114 ) at 1:02 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
Chris L.: I looked up the GA-7ZX1 mobo on www.pricewatch.com and it is a "Gigabyte" brand board. I've not heard of this brand before, but that doesn't mean it's not good. All it means is I can't comment on them. I can say that you almost can't go wrong with an ASUS or Abit mobo. Both companies make top notch boards, throughout their line.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:22 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Oops
Cookie didn't label me as Darian
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.42 ) at 12:19 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
Wild Bill: Yep. I'll need a new case with a 300watt power supply to handle the new mobo. That, a 1.2 gig (or whatever the hell it is) Athlon processor, 128 megs, and a new fan (whoopee) for about $400. Not too bad.
Curtis ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:19 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
While you are at it.
Remember to thank your Silicon Image friends for trying to obsolete all current HDTVS.
Gar ( 169.207.194.58 ) at 12:03 PM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Darian: Thanks, new to the HTPC thing, didn't even know my Toshiba Work computer had one built in. Also has anyone seen the new Sony Glastron
Glasses, for HT. I saw the older version and thought they were ok, but these are 3rd generation and you can pick them up cheap.
CHC ( 206.171.33.53 ) at 11:29 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
OSU Rumor(off-topic)
BYork: SJMN today says it's not going to happen. Reports that he was in Ohio interviewing yesterday are BS, he was right here. His dad was interviewed saying he should explore all his options ... dad works as a scout for the 49ers! Can you imagine the dinner conversations?
BYork ( 159.37.7.93 ) at 11:25 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
OSU Rumor(off-topic)
Wild Bill -
I heard on the radio yesterday here in the Bay Area that Jon Grudin is being pursued by OSU.
I'm suddenly very afraid.......
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:49 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Gar: Set the Lap top to 640X480. Then full size the DVD playe back window. That shold fit the screen.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:45 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Curtis: While you are at it. Tell them to get my order to me! We are still 2 to 3 weeks out for our Pros that we need.
Gar ( 169.207.194.58 ) at 10:45 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
PSA
Wild Bill: Bill since your the HTPC person on here, how would you hook up a laptop to a tv and get the right aspect ratio for the viewing? I have it hooked up via the video out and on the menu in control pannel I go through display and it allows you several different options, on being TV, but when viewing it on there the Computer screen seems bigger and doesn't fit on to tv? Does this mean I have to increase the resolution on the computer and shrink it down to size? New at this so don't do a Darian on me, hahahaha Jk kidding!!!!
CHC ( 206.170.6.200 ) at 10:28 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
PBS's doing Sat. Inuag. in HD
The more free HD programming the better I suppose. NHK of Japan is shooting George W's Inaugeration this Saturday and local PBS stations will zap it over the air at 1080i.
I'm not sure I want to see this guy super clearly! The senior members of the Bush family are going to look pretty real along with much of the old gaurd republicans that'll surely be there. D.C. is a great background though.
Ironic that it takes a Japanese company to bring Americans the rep. & dem. conventions and now this.
Wild Bill ( 63.48.103.160 ) at 10:27 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
PSA
Not sure if this is a good deal, but this guy has a base DC-1 for $800. http://www.hometheaterforum.com/uub/Forum5/HTML/001194.html
CHC ( 206.170.6.200 ) at 10:16 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
AVB: I should have inserted a there, didn't mean to offend you. It can't hurt to include yours & of course you rate. I'm letting these guys know that our little group has been responsible for telling lots of end users and dealers to buy iScans from day one.
Wild Bill ( 63.48.103.160 ) at 10:09 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
Chris L.: As Kieran posted, ATX is a type of motherboard. AT *used* to be the type of motherboard to purchcase, now it's ATX. In fact, if you have an AT style case, you can't stick an ATX motherboard in it. As Kieran said, ASUS and Abit are probably the best choices for motherboards.
Wild Bill ( 63.48.103.160 ) at 10:04 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Cytotech: The color, sharpness, etc. controls are disabled on a CRT FPTV if the RGB input is used. I'm not sure if LCD is the same but reason says that it is. So having the controls on the iScan is not "redundant" if RGB inputs are used on the projector. These controls become the only way to adjust color, sharpness, etc. if the RGB inputs are used on the projector.
AVB ( 64.41.32.99 ) at 6:31 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Look out Darian ;-)
CHC: I did not buy a used one on ebay. It was new in a sealed box. Even so, having bought it only a day before the Pro version was announced I think I rate some consideration.
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.140 ) at 6:26 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
Kieran\ Scott: Well, looking at the spec sheet from the dealer, all it says is GA-7ZX1 ATX Motherboard....no brand name. I'll have to call the dealer and check. I must have been confused into thinking ATX was a brand and not a particular board. duh
Morning all!
Ron H ( 63.24.14.4 ) at 5:42 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Hmmmm. God morning???? Good mornig all. I guess when you go to bed at 11:00 am add get up at 2:00 ...... Business at work has been in overdrive. We are running 28% ahead of budget. It is good for the company but stressful on the employees. Trying to hire and train new employees is quite difficult in the current employment market.
I guess I should not complain as this just adds to the job security and a larger bonus.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.71 ) at 5:26 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
God morning all.
JBC ( 206.47.244.58 ) at 4:50 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Good morning...
CHC ( 206.170.7.78 ) at 2:16 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Look out Darian ;-)
Gar: The earlieast registered serial #'s will get 1st dibbs for sticking with them before DVDO wa a known solid product. For example mine came out of the 1st production run. For this group it MAY be very cheap. No assurances that someone who bought a used V 2.0 on eBay last week (hello AVB?) will qualify for a generous manufacturer deal ... then again you'll never know if you don't ask, right?
CHC ( 206.170.7.78 ) at 2:03 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
CHC
Gar: As I posted DAYS AGO - it worked like a charm thanks again & I offered to pass it along to the next 9000 P/P owner.
Hello RGB?
In my HT the .1 LFE is dramatically improved. I'm guessing that perhaps the last firmware didn't load properly because I has uncontrollable boomy bass everywhere. Now it's just all sounding deep & natural, like a 18" Velo should.
Gar ( 169.207.192.200 ) at 1:32 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
CHC
How did that upgrade work? Did the copy I sent you work ok?
Gar ( 169.207.192.200 ) at 1:31 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Look out Darian ;-)
CHC: Ah, how about us new adapters? How about group buy.. And a decent price? hint hint nudge nudge if you know what I mean!
CHC ( 206.170.7.78 ) at 1:25 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Look out Darian ;-)
The topic line is about Darian likely losing yet more sales due to me. Sorry man - nothing personal but these are my friends and you have plenty of other avenues to sell your wares. Whatever you do pls don't go ballistic. Save it for the v-ball courts
I just had a nice long chat with one of the founding engineers of DVDO. We have had an email/inperson relationship from the early days. We also have some mutual pals @ Apple, where all the DVDo guys came from.
I explained that the iScan Pro looks like what all us faithfull early adoptors who suffered through multiple power supply/ motherboard replacements have been lusting for all along. Then I went way out on a limb & suggested the following ... a dozen or two close Net pals would love to trade in their Iscan V1 & 2's for the Pro model - straight up. He said that if I can produce a list of serial number units we want to trade for, and we all agree to SHUTUP about the deal, he would see what he could do for us.
He has always come through for me in the past so let's see what materializes with this. If one person leaks word of this the thing will go away in no time flat.
Any member who now owns an iScan who's interested in a iScan Pro for little or no $$ should email me their serial #, name and snail mail.
Gar ( 169.207.192.200 ) at 1:15 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Darian: I have used service mode all the time for tweaking. Works great. I think Don Musils 10HT pages has a few gains listed for good measure, at least a good starting point.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:51 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Didn't write down the settings I used for the 10HT I had here. Here is the procedure if you are feeling brave...
Enter the service mode for the projector and write down the gains for RGB on Custom 2. Take the value of R and divide 255 by it. This gives you the value differance between the 2. Use this value and multiply by the other initial values for G and B. Raise the G and B to the new values. Then put up a gey scale and tweek by hand and eye.
Gar ( 169.207.192.200 ) at 12:22 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Darian: Thanks for the info, so far it looks pretty good on the 10HT, but I am having the greenish problem you talked about. I didn't before, but then again I was using a much more expensive Pioneer Elite player. Any recommendations for settings on the 10HT? Thanks for the help.....
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:19 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Gar: Looks like standard interlaced component video ouput to me.Is there some sort of switch to enable progressive scan output? If its just good old interlaced componet out... just hook that to the component in on the iScan Pro if you want.
Gar ( 169.207.192.200 ) at 12:11 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
BIG AL:Using the S-Video right now and waiting for the 450 Monster cable to come. The funny thing is this is the most connections I have ever seen on any game console.... But then again it is more then just a game console
Gar ( 169.207.192.200 ) at 12:09 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
BIG AL: Ah? Where?
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.93 ) at 12:05 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Gar; I assume your using the component video set. Just an FYI, I saw a catalog with a PS2 RGB set also.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.93 ) at 12:02 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Darian; I feel your pain my friend! Some of us are less visible than others. A guy could get a complex. Even after I chided RonH for ignoring my opinions of the VMPS sub, he ignored that too. Of course you didn't forget that I suggested a VMPS sub to you, when yours self destructed. Hmmmm...maybe invisible is better sometimes.
JK to both of you!!
Gar ( 169.207.192.200 ) at 12:02 AM EST Wednesday, January 17, 2001
Darian: Here you go, maybe this will give you an idea of what I am using. http://www.wirecloset.com/game.htm
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:57 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Cyto: Sorry about the blow up. I interperated your message as my opinion of what I saw was superfulous.
1. Iscans cycle throught the imputs looking for a hot signal. The iScan starts at imput one and works its way to 3 if nothing is present. There is a prioity switch. This switch is a 3 position toggler. It assigns priority to a specific input. Like say input 2.
Example: DBS is plugged into input 1 as S-Video. Most of the time DBS will be the source you are most likely to be watching day in and day out. DVD is hooked to input 2 with the priority switch set to input 2. So when the DVD player is off you just flip on the TV and DBS is the source displayed. To watch a DVD... just turn on the iScan. DVD comes up on the screen in 480P.
2. As for having the controls on the front pannel. Some of them are disabled on component in for the Pro. Truth be know... here are the important differances. V2s use a admirable comb filter for incomming sources and SIL 502 chips. The Pro uses a Philips 2D comb filter that is supperior (on paper) to the original unit. Also the Pro includes the Sil 503 chip.
Orginal iScans started out with DVDO 101 chips and there was a running change to the 102 chips. Soon after the V2 debuted with the 102 chip and the anamorphic squeeze enabled. The Pro has the 103/503 chip and anamorphic squeeze enabled, tossess in component inputs, new comb filter, and front pannel controls for adjustemnts of specific media without mess with your set.
Personally... I prefer a standard myself. Just give me the best there is and figure out a way to keep me from messing with it.
BIG AL ( 204.248.58.93 ) at 11:55 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
CHC; "2)connect AV plug to AC outlet"
I read that, translated it to " AudioVideo plug to AC outlet", and thought, MAN! That ought to fry something!!!
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.196 ) at 11:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian: That's fine. It still could be 2 or 3 months for me. We have to get settled into the new house then look at everything and decide. But I'm pretty sure I'm gonna want one. The reason being, we will be using this as our TV. I know it's not an optimal setup for something like that, but we don't watch THAT much TV anyway. Also, I realize it can't do much with DSS signals, but even a little improvement is better than none.
Here's a question you can answer(2 actually)
1 - How do you switch sources? If everything(DVD, DSS and (augh!)VCR is hooked into it, does it just auto detect the active signal? Or does the thing have a remote?
2 - Why would someone want the built in controls for Color, Sharpness, etc? It just seems like redundant controls, similar to cascading filters on a sub and pre/pro. Your thoughts?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:09 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Gar: What sort of connector does the PS2 have. You mentioned cables that come out of it. I am a little confused as to what the output connector is.
As for the iScan Pros don't look for big discounts on this thing until the limited release is over with. If you guys wanted the V2... now that I can get a bunch of. For the Pro I am having a hard time just trying to make sure I can get units for our TV packages.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 11:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Cai: You want a Sampo with a iScan V2?
Kieran ( 172.171.2.61 ) at 10:06 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
Chris L: I agree with Scott... in fact, I think what he said is LITERALLY true. Aside from buying a brand name computer with a proprietary mobo (like Dell, Compaq, HP, Sony, etc.), I think ATX is really the only thing that's readily available (aside from baby-ATX... with is a similar mobo, just smaller). Who makes the specific model you mentioned? Abit and Asus are two of the best brands.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.67.51 ) at 9:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
Chris L.: ATX is the *ONLY* way to go.
Gar ( 169.207.194.25 ) at 9:05 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Hey Darian, how about a HTOC group purchase on the iScan Pro unit? What price would we get then? I would rather buy from a HTOC Bud then someone I don't know.
Gar ( 169.207.194.25 ) at 9:03 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian:Darian, depends on what chord you buy for the unit, they have special ones that Monster cable makes for the PS2, one with Component and Composite or S-Video take your pick. I actually have all three.....
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.47 ) at 8:59 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Speaking of computer upgrades...
...What do we think about ATX MoBos? Specifically the GA-7ZX1? It's just about crunch time for me.
CHC ( 206.170.7.36 ) at 8:36 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
OT
Robert: Awesome printer, just sold one today in fact. Let's hope the materials cost aren't coming out of your pocket - they're very expensive to feed no matter how cheap the marketing materials say they are. The Tektronix Color Phasers are my favorite CP, but consumables even higher, though blacks inks are free for life.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 8:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
iScan Price
Sound & Vision has an advertisement for the iScan plus V-2, on page 18, where they list the price as $749. Frankly, given the flexibility of this unit and having seen it in action at CES, I would recommend it highly.
Darian: What is the price of the Sampo and iScan packaged deal that you offer.?
Cytotech ( 199.182.129.54 ) at 8:14 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Let me make something clear...
Darian: I was actually referencing the iScan PRO. If this is the same chipset as in your EAD DVD player, I still believe it would look different when hooked up in the form of the iScan PRO BETWEEN my dvd player and the 10HT, due to 2 different conversions.
Also, I just recently(within the last month or so) became serious about this projector and all the scaling options available to me, so that's why I have all the questions/posts lately. I just didn't remember you mentioning anything about the quality of the iScan PRO from a demo, only you selling it. That's why I asked. And honestly it never entered my mind to do a search. My bad.
Robert ( 63.11.61.165 ) at 8:00 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
OT
Picked up a HP Color LASER Printer,,, way cool, adding the duplex printing feature and extra memory,,,,,very cool indeed!!!!
So the first thing my boss asks is,,,,,, print up 5 copies of our business plan in color.............
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 7:45 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
CHC: Just do an addendum to your first #2 but add the words *at your own risk*.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.159 ) at 7:26 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Joe: I don't have any pics of the new setup yet but I'll get them posted as soon as I do. Still deciding on a color scheme ya know?
CHC ( 206.170.7.36 ) at 7:21 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
DOH step #2) ... AC plug to AC wall outlet
CHC ( 206.170.7.36 ) at 7:20 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
LD
Kieran: Here's the sequence, hopefully even an engineer can handle this
1) connect VRE to AC out on brick
2) connect AV plug to AC outlet
That's it. I agree with Trav1, if anything DD (aka:AC-3) and DTS sound better if anything on LD vs. DVD. I suspect your receiver may be introducing something because that player sounded great on DD when I demo'd it thru my pre/pro.
Wild Bill ( 63.44.253.187 ) at 7:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
LD
trav1: Crazy!! Just kiffing.
trav1 ( 4.34.141.88 ) at 7:03 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
LD
Kieran: Call me crazy but I still prefer the DD tracks off LD better than I do from a dvd. No flames please.
Kieran ( 172.171.2.61 ) at 6:41 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Sampo and features
Scott "popcorn": Absolutely! Especially when it comes to getting me hooked up!
Kieran ( 172.171.2.61 ) at 6:40 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
LD
CHC: Well, I just watched Forrest Gump in AC-3. Pretty nice. Although, I'm wondering how much better it will look through the VRE. Any ideas on how to properly hook it up?
BTW, ALL: Does AC-3 via LD inherently have more hiss than AC-3 via dvd? It seemed like there was a lot of background hiss on my Forrest Gump LD.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.164 ) at 6:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Sampo and features
Kieran: Shouldn't I be?
Kieran ( 172.171.2.61 ) at 6:38 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Sampo and features
Scott "popcorn": Always lookin' out for me, eh Pop?
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.164 ) at 6:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Sampo and features
CHC: Shampoo in the MBR just for my buddy Kieran? Ya better fix him up with a nice young lady too
CHC ( 206.170.7.102 ) at 6:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Sampo and features
Darian: "The Sampo begs for HD or DVDO input"
Oh man just what I need in my house - yet another whiney voice! This one won't stop begging
"pssst hey man, yeah you. Look I REALLY NEED the good, clean stuff, know what I mean man? I know it's like expensive & sh*t I know but I ALWAYS performed at my utra-super-best when I'm mainlining the purest possible stuff! Whatever you do don't try that methadone (NTSC) stuff on me unless you want me acting really ugly"
I have both an iScan & HD feed waiting for my new, begging HDTV. With luck it'll be installed for the Super Bowl. (don't worry Kieran the big Tosh with still be on, I'll put the Shampoo in the Master BR just for you
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 5:42 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
GAr... What is are the outputs of the PS2?
Gar ( 169.207.192.204 ) at 4:42 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian:I am all ears, I have noticed a slight green tinge on fleshtones, so how did you correct this? And what where your settings when you did? Anyone, anyone Buller, Buller! Also would you connect the iScan to the PS2? Thanks. Actually the PS2 looks pretty good for a DVD Player, alot more digital artifacting then the Pioneer I have, but all in all pretty darn good, especially if I ever get a iScan hooked up to it.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 4:40 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
dtc-100
AVB: thanks guys.
Ron H ( 63.24.14.5 ) at 3:40 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
dtc-100
AVB: Very good post for the info.
Kieran ( 172.171.2.61 ) at 3:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
365 More Days...
BYork: Thanks, dude! I haven't yet paid Sonic, but will do so now.
Kieran ( 172.171.2.61 ) at 3:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Audio Alchemy VRE
Curtis: I guess you couldn't find the manual to the VRE. I plugged it in to power, forgetting that you said the power up sequence was important. So, I immediately unplugged it. Can you tell me how to hook it up properly so I don't fry it or something?
BYork ( 159.37.7.156 ) at 3:19 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
365 More Days...
All -
I just paid us up for 2001. We're good to go for another year of www.htoc.net
If you haven't sent SonicBit your contribution.....get out them checkbooks!
AVB ( 64.41.33.135 ) at 3:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
dtc-100
BC: Have your friend go to this site. It will show what you need. http://www.geocities.com/dbs_tech/dishes/twodish.htm
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:48 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Sheesh.. make that 34"
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 2:48 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Sampo and features
Cai: We sell the 24" widescreens from Philips, Panasonic, Sony (if we have to) and Sampo. The Sampo has the best monitor performance. The other units off bells and Whistels while the Sampo was all about the picture.
The Sampo begs for HD or DVDO input. The Philips can get by without it. The Philips lacks support for 720P. We offer the Sampo as a package with an iScan. Usually the V2. NBow I am in a holding patern. Pros have yet to arrive at my reps.
Kieran ( 172.166.112.95 ) at 2:46 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
THX WOW disc
Well, you all remember the THX WOW disc that Curtis and I found for $5? It has a star crack that goes through both sides, right in the middle. The crack is about the size of a nickel... maybe a little bigger, but not quite as large as a quarter. So, I'm guessing that the disc is useless. The Forrest Gump LD that I got for $5 though looks okay, and I think it's AC-3 to boot (jacket says AC-3, disc label does not). Haven't hooked up everything (LD player) for a demo yet. I'm home sick today (stomach flu) so I have time... but I'm not really feeling up to it.
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 2:39 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Joe: I also considered carpet. I agree with you that I do not think I would like the looks over time. Imay feel like I am in a van from theb60's or 70's . of course it would have to be shag carpeting in that case. Also with carpeting you really will not have a even control of the frequencys it blocks or mutes. It may work on the 8000 to 12000 range only giving you a severe dip in that area. One is best to use material specificalydesigned for acoustics. This MHO based upon my own research into this.
Kieran ( 172.166.112.95 ) at 2:34 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
HDTV
CHC: Hey, I was planning on bringing down my DTC anyway, if for nothing else just to get the latest firmware upgrade! I also figured when it comes to two HTOC members getting together for some HT fun, the more electronics around, the better!
Joe ( 205.188.199.52 ) at 2:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron
Chris L.: Pictures?
Joe ( 205.188.199.52 ) at 2:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
I had thought of running carpet up 32" to a chair rail around the room. I am having second thoughts about this. It might look a bit off.
cai ( 205.254.147.8 ) at 2:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
JOE: As long as the blowout is in favor of the Giants it is ok. If not, I agree Survivors or Hogan's Heroes is a better fare.
c purple b; Darian:] You just shattered my plans. I was thinking of upgrading from a Harmon Kardon kit receiver to a Sherwood. Does your post imply that Sherwoods are not high end? Besides price, the Toshiba offers at least one convenience that I want to have - PIP.
Chris L. ( 198.144.141.32 ) at 2:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron
Joe: I did some room treatments that you may want to think about. At all upper corners of the room (where the walls meet the ceiling) I put of fabric covered triangles. They're not perfect triangles, the edge against the ceiling is longer (is that isocylis (sp??))than the other edges. I don't know if it made any difference but it looks pretty cool.
Joe ( 205.188.199.52 ) at 2:28 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron
Ron H : My walls are @ 8' then a 30 degree angle to the 10' cieling. So they are kind of rounded at that point. I seen on AVS were a guy glued Armstrong tile to the sheetrock. This seems like a good option.
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 2:27 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
dtc-100
BC: Yes he can but he also needs a few parts to make it work. One of them is called a multiplexier. Go to the AVS forum and post your question or do a search on the HDTV hardware forum. I know I have read the answer to your question there.
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 2:23 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
cieling=Ceiling. I thought I would correct at least one of my 30 plus typos I have made today. where is voice reconition?
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 2:17 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron
Joe: Have you found a local source for acoustical tratment I can use on the lower partof my room? Have you thought about any type of treatment for the cieling. I amctoying with the idea but am afraid it may be overkill and my room will end up too dead.
BC ( 166.35.145.38 ) at 2:16 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
dtc-100
I know this has been covered but I don't feel like searching for it! hehe
A friend wants to pick up a DTC-100 (HD SUPERBOWL BABBBYYYYYYY). He has directv already and a toshiba TN61X81. He also has an extra dish in his garage. Can he just hook up the second dish and point it to the other bird instead of buying the elliptical dish? And what are the coordinates for the other bird?
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 2:14 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron
Joe: Rounding the corners is a good idea. I would question if the back of the room is the place to do it. I do not think it hurts to have the rear pretty lively with reflections it should help with the rear channels and could help make the room seem larger. I think the front and side walls are the areas to work with treating to reduce reflections and slap. I believe they have the greatest effect on how clear the sound arrives at your position of seating. I think reflections from the sides and front can muddy the sound before it evens gets to your seat. IMHO
Oh do not forget the area where the walls meet the ceilings. That is one of the worst areas. The point where two walls join and meet the ceilng is the worst problem spot in a room. You can treat those areas with crown moulding, the larger the better or buy room treatments. I have a link at home for a place that has room treatments for the corners and other sports that seem to be oriced quite reasonable.
Scott "popcorn" ( 38.27.68.164 ) at 2:14 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Finding past info here
Ron H : I can't believe it! we agree on something! Yeah, it's best to re-answer new (repeat) questions that are asked.
CHC: An FAQ would be nice, and that's one reason we're keeping the old posts... But someone with too much time on their hands is kinda hard to come by...
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 2:03 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian: I did not go back that far. There is no way I can remember anything that far back. At my age I am lucky if I remember what I had for dinner last night.
Joe ( 64.12.105.169 ) at 2:01 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron
I sent ( wife actually) to a few places for room treatments and stuff. The place in Florida Accoustic Inovations sent a nice package on stuff. I mainly looked in Audio Video Interiors in the back. The chairs are all expensive. A good comffey( a wife word ) chair is just fine.
I am still week or so away from HT room work. I am now considering rounding out the back corners.
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 1:58 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian: It sounds like I may need to do a demo of the DVDO.
Ron H ( 63.24.14.26 ) at 1:55 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian: By using the bias and gain settings I was able to get rid of the very slight green bias my projector had. It was sort of suprising to see it as so many projectors seem to lean toward the red. Mine was not very bad butI have noticed others that seem to have a lean in the green direction.
I do not remember which of the stock custom settings were best out of the box. I have altered each of mine. But I believe it was either one or two.
Joe ( 64.12.105.169 ) at 1:54 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian,
Are we having a little trouble letting go of this? I think you have made your point. Now lets all play together like the grown ups we are ok
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:41 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron H ( 63.26.174.89 ) at 2:02 PM EST Wednesday, September 27, 2000
Darian: The lean toward gree/yellow seems most noticable with the low temperature setting. You can go into the service mode and adjust the bias and gain
settings to correct this. Gar and myself have developed a few new settings that seem to work pretty good. The settings will vary a little from projector to
projector but they are a good starting point. If you would like I can send my custom settings to you. My custom 1 and custom 2 settings are now ones I have
custom sesigned. Custom1 is one based upon one from KPD and custom 2 is one I designed.
The results you had with the DVDO and the 7700 follow suit to my results when I went from the DV-05 to a progressive scan DVD player.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:41 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:01 AM EST Thursday, September 28, 2000
Kieran:
Darian: It makes sense that using the DVDO iScan between the 7700 and the 10HT would have "better 3:2 pull down" (for anamorphic dvds)... esepcially since
the 7700 doesn't do 3:2 pull down at all! (It's not a progressive dvd player.)
Are you wiseassing me again!!! Kieran, the 10 HT is a progressive scan device. Anything interlaced fed to the 10HT must be converted to display. I was
merely pointing out that the DVDO does a better job then the internal converter.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:38 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 1:17 PM EST Wednesday, September 27, 2000
Ron H. Have you managed to correct that nasty green color on the 10HT. I have seen 3 now and they were all GREEN! Its odd that I hooked up an iScan to
one and it got rid of the Green problem. Custom 2 is the closest to fixing the green right?
Anamorphic DVDs looked great with the DVDO/10HT combo. Better than the component outs of a 7700 direct to the 10HT. Better color, less artifacts, and
better 3:2 pull down. At least on our tests. We didn't get to trying out the 4:3 DVDs yet. DiSH stretched out by the 10HT looked kind of washed out too.
Ron H ( 63.24.204.7 ) at 1:05 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
CHC:Well I just did a search under Darians name to see how hard it really is and long it would take to find a post. After spending more time than I care to mention I could not find the posts talking about the 10HT and how the I-Scan improves the picture much less multiple ones.
I guess this not only shows how hard it is to locate a post but also how hard it is to find a particular one when someone knows exactly what they are looking for.
This is the closest one to the topic I could find:
Darian ( 66.44.1.231 ) at 12:31 AM EST Thursday, January 4, 2001
Just spent some time with the Sony 10HT. Calibrated the RGB gains without a analyzer. The start falues gave me a real green picture. Now the picture is a bit more balanced.
The projecotr does benefit from Progressive DVD signals. I have 1 S-Video 1 Componet Video and one progressive Compoent feed to the projector. I kept hitting imput to toggel from one to the next. I set the user controls to maxamize the picture quality for each input. The Progressive input has a far more 3-D look to it. There is alos more noise in the S feed. I have only hooked the unit up to my EAD DVD player. It can ouput Interlaced S and Component aswell as Progressive RGB or Component.
I don't have a screen here so I just put the image up on the white wall in my room. Fery detailed and sharp picture. Black levels are nowhere near my RPTV. The Colors and contrast are much closer to my ISFed set post RGB tweaking.
I also took a little time to watch some Hi-Def on the Projector. Razor sharp. Color and saturation are a little different. To bad noone broadcasts a HD test patern that you can get at when ever you need it.
Are we loosing posts when they are archived?
Wild Bill ( 63.44.242.233 ) at 1:03 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Let me make something clear...
Darian: So who gets to decide who does (and who doesn't) matter? The iScan is a great solution if 480p is all that is needed. It is insufficient in my case because scan lines are not an option. I'd recommend it for RPTVs but not for FPTV. It just doesn't match the capabilities of (most) projectors.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:46 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Let me make something clear...
There is a big gap between. "Has anyone tried XYZ?" and "Noone (who matters) has tried out XYZ."
Ron H ( 63.24.204.7 ) at 12:34 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
CHC: Yes that is true. Some of the custom HT seating is $$$$.
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 12:31 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Ron H : True, yet think of all that hand-earned cash you saved by Bob not having all the new toys on hand.
Ron H ( 63.24.204.7 ) at 12:11 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Joe: Hey don't diss my Giants.
Ron H ( 63.24.204.7 ) at 12:10 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
JBC: When you have a chance check out Bobs at Avalons current line he has added quite a few companys. Some of the new electronic hardware suppliers are Fujitsu,DVDO and Toshiba to name a few.
It also looks like he has worked hard to add quite a few HT room designers, and furniture, cabinets, and sound control suppiers. I wish he had some of this available when I was working on my room. I am still planning to add accoustical panels on the lower third of my room. I will talk to Bob. I wanted to pick the stuff up local at somewhere like a hardware store but i guess I will have to spend the bucks.
Go for the M$K purchase and not look back. I am awaiting a review.
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 12:08 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
paing=paying
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 12:07 PM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Joe: I get around too many hosting duties by a) paing my kids to help out (shameless, I know) and b) making the event a pot luck with the mention that it's co hosted by me and every single guest.
It works out well. I'm usually a great host who always sees to his guests needs. On this American holiday, I just want to watch the game with friends. If the score is a blowout in the 1st half (isn't it in 75% of these?) then we can just have a party for no particular reason. As a longtime 49er fan I can't imagine how bad it must feel to lose the SB, esp. with company around the house.
Joe ( 64.12.105.39 ) at 11:55 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
There will just be a few of us here for the superbowl. Probabley a crocl pot of Sloppy Joes, a few chips and a beverage or two. I agree with Ron about the party size. We would have Daytona 500 partys and I would miss the Race because I was always hosting.
With the teams this year, Survior after the game should be the best part.
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 11:07 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
HDTV
Ron H : I find that my football pals really want to watch and listen to the game while everyone else comes to have a party and watch the new commercials! I have the volume on the main system way up to overtake the yackers. When a new commercial comes on everyone shuts up & the volume suddenly seems way too high.
So you see whay I need a 2nd HD display/ speakers (I use wireless). Remind me never to invite anyone who works at an ad agency for the SB. The last one (beautiful as she was) just couldn't shut up about all the money the clients dropped on this or that 30 second ad.
Wild Bill ( 64.12.103.44 ) at 10:48 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Joe: Yes, Windows is part of the equation. I can't remember the last time I had a crash during playback of a DVD. I believe it was last winter and the crash was due to WinDVD, not Windows. I get rock-solid performance all the time.
Ron H ( 63.28.252.104 ) at 10:44 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
HDTV
CHC: thganks. the party will not be too large. I plan on keeping it as small as possible. I find the more people the more time I spend being the host and less time watching the game. Last year I had cut it down to about 10 or 12 and it was just about right. The year we had 20 plus (pre HT room) was not fun. Thank god we had good weather that day (in the 70's) as my small house was overflowing. I ended up with a second small TV poolside and had heated up the pool so the not true football diehards did not have to stay in the main room.
Wild Bill ( 64.12.103.44 ) at 10:42 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Wild Bill
Joe: Correct. The HTPC is the scaler. It's little more involved but that's the basic premise.
Ron H ( 63.28.252.104 ) at 10:39 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Joe: In a nutshell I would say you have it. The unknown is that you are running windows for part of ypur HT operation but that may be another of those overblown problems.
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 10:06 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
HDTV
Ron H : Your party sounds great. Try hooking up any old computer monitor to your HD STB, you'll be amazed how good it can look. Yes it's small but direct views offer some advantages that F/RP's don't. You'll also wan to create a macro to change monitor aspect ratio. Rats that reminds me, my plan won't work because I have to either select 16:9 or 4:3 unless Kieran brings his DTC100 down (hint, hint!)
Joe ( 152.163.194.204 ) at 9:53 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
I don't always read all the post. If I am not interesrted or buying atthe time I may skip over them. Sometimes I may miss days at a time. So I have repeated questons that have been asked. A FAQ might be cool.
With that said I am still confused about this HTPC. It holds the DVD player, so it's HTPC to Projector with nothing in between. THe HTPC also outputs sound to the receiver ( or pre/pro) Then if this is right you get a DVD player (progressive ) and a scaler for about the cost of one of these scalers ??????????????????/
Ron H ( 63.24.183.45 ) at 9:32 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
HDTV
CHC: I will have the HD feed in the Home theater room and a SD feed on the 60" Pioneer Elite in the family room. I had not thought about a HD feed to the computer monitor. I guess if two big screens is not enough they can go to a bar.
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 9:30 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
This Space Available
You guys aren't going to believe this one. You know the yellow superimposed 1st down marker line that broadcasters use in NFL games? This years Super Bowl will introduce a new twist - advertising within that line. FedEx and General Motors are paying huge sums to have their brands plastered on them for the entire telecast.
Rather than an announcer saying that the Giants must get to the 42 yardline he can say "that quaterback has to at least get to the FedEx ad to keep this drive alive!" The same company doing this has been superimposing big logos/ads on international soccer fields broadcasts for months now with wild ($$) success.
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 9:21 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
HDTV
Ron H : Yep, my HD Super Bowl juices are flowing too. I'm trying to get a video engineer to come to my party and bring a VGA distribution box with him. This will allow me to show HD on 4 monitors at once. The TW65 in the living room, a 21" puter monitor in both the kitchen & dining room plus the 21"er in the home office. If it's nice outside I could put another one next to the BBQ.
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing!
JBC ( 207.164.221.226 ) at 9:19 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Good morning gang..
Ron H ( 63.24.183.45 ) at 9:09 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
HDTV
CHC: I am so excited about viewing the Superbowl in HDTV. After two weeks in a row of HDTV football I will be having withdrawl this weekend.
Ron H ( 63.24.183.45 ) at 8:56 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Finding past info here
CHC: Not all of us are able to get the forum during the day or even on a daily basis. Thoses who do have that problem also may not have the time to review a few days worth of postings.
The solution is to be patient and post the answers as they are asked or if it too much trouble do not bother. I am sure some of the lurkers will now think twice before posting in fear that thre may ask a question that was answered in the past. IMHO
Ron H ( 63.24.183.45 ) at 8:50 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Good Morning all.
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 8:43 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Finding past info here
This forum's format isn't the easiest place to find a past post even when you know what you're looking for. Do a search on "10HT" and you'll get 5,000 pages to wade through. Try "10HT with iScan" and you may miss what you want if you don't match the words posted.
Darian and others put significant time & energy into sharing their experiences with bleeding-edge equipment. We all benefit from it and often these reviews help us make smarter buying decisions. I can understand his frustration at seeing the same question/s repeated. I can also understand why Cytotech asked - it takes forever to find the original post. (I'm not picking on you 2, just a real example).
The solution? Someone with far too much time on their hands could always create a FAQ. Threaded messages work well in this case yet we have always voted down this idea because it kills the mood of our little cocktail party atmosphere.
Anyone else have ideas?
Chris L. ( 198.144.140.135 ) at 8:40 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Morning guys!
BTW...Does anyone know if the iScan improves the picture on the Sony 10HTs?
CHC ( 206.170.6.203 ) at 8:26 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Rant City
Darian: A wild acting man walks into a psychiatrists office yelling and repeating "I'm a wigwam, I'm a teepee ... I'm a wigwam, I'm a teepee!!"
The shrink takes one look at him and says "calm down, calm down ... you're two tents"
(you'll get it after a short delay & either groan or get a good laugh)
Ron H ( 63.24.183.45 ) at 8:22 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
NOW I AM REALLY PISSED!
Darian: Good God man chill.
Ron H ( 63.26.164.3 ) at 3:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
10HT screen location
Cytotech: I have a 8 foot ceiling. The center of the lens of the 10HT is 10 imches below the ceiling. the screen material itself is 11" below the ceiling and 32" up from the floor. Ther material is surrounded with a 3" wide felt/velvet frame. I have not felt like the sound is coming from below the screen.
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 12:25 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
PS2 Hook up?
Darian, how would one hook this unit up? Since I haven't seen the back of the unit I am curious. Thanks! Side Out!!!!!!!
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 12:23 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
NOW I AM REALLY PISSED!
Darian: Darian,, the Pioneer DV-37 is on its way to Michigan!
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 12:22 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
NOW I AM REALLY PISSED!
Darian: Calm down man!!!!!! hahahahaha I never said I disagreed with you, just haven't seen it in action. But since you have a keen eye for video and equipment, this is one of the reasons I am looking to buy it.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.183 ) at 12:17 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Continuing Rant...
Darian: BTW... thanks for the info!
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.183 ) at 12:12 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Continuing Rant...
Darian: That makes sense. BUT I thought the picture looked great using the Pioneer 434 progressive(hrmph!) player! And it doesn't even DO 3:2 pulldown. I should REALLY be blown away by the iScan!
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:10 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
Continuing Rant...
Yes the 10HT has to scale the progressive frames it receives. But now the unit is scaling frames with 3:2 pull down upstream. The DRC chips are not 3:2 pull down friendly.
I give up... I now return to my Invisible Man status!
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.183 ) at 12:08 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
NOW I AM REALLY PISSED!
Darian: First of all... breathe.
Now... I'm sorry. I forgot you had mentioned it before. It's all coming back to me now(no, not that cheesy Celine Dion song!). BUT... I was unsure how much time you got to spend with it since it seemed to be a quick demo. Also, I didn't know you had tried your EAD DVD with the DVDO chip built in WITH the 10HT. I remembered you mentioning it IRT a face off at WIld BIll's.
Anyway, thanks for the update. Others also reported a sharper picture with even fewer artifacts than the V2, I just forgot you DID demo a 10HT.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.183 ) at 12:03 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
10HT screen location
Gar: I had looked at them before, but didn't know the measurements. So at 3.5' from the floor, the sound doesn't seem to come from BELOW the action onscreen? I was just wondering...
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 12:00 AM EST Tuesday, January 16, 2001
NOW I AM REALLY PISSED!
Ok guys. Now i am getting pissed off! Its bad enough that you guys ignore me. NOW pay attention. How many fucking times did I say it???!!! THE ISCAN DOES IMPROVE ON THE PICTURE OF THE 10HT. I have said this a bunch of times here. I wrote about it when I did the comparison at a guys house. Then I mentioned it again when I had a 10HT at my place for calibration. I can full understand that you guys often buy from other dealers due to the fact that they get stuff cheaper than I do. But for crying out loud! STOP SAYING NOONE HAS MENTIONED HOW THE ISCAN LOOKS ON 10HTs! I HAVE DONE IT A FEW TIMES!
Also my DVD player has the DV 103 chip built into it. (no its not a Denon!) The picture my DVD player produces is rocksolid with tons of detail. It easily betters the performance of the DV-37 sitting next to it. The new iScan pro is the implimentation of this chip and DAC board into a stand alone device!
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 11:58 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
10HT screen location
Cytotech: Take a look at my Pics on the Members page. I have low ceilings so I opted for the Sony because of it being quiet and a small profile and a great picture for the money. My screen is 12 inches from the ceiling and about 3 1/2 feet from the floor. And about 12 feet from the projector, it is very easy and flexible to setup, took me about an hour along with my friend who still does HT setups where I used to work.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.183 ) at 11:48 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
10HT screen location
Gar/Ron H: How high is your proj. mounted, how high is the top of your screen, and how high is the bottom of your screen from the floor?
The reason I'm asking is that in my room, the 10HT will be nearly 9 feet off the floor, meaning the top of my 120" screen should be 9 feet as well. This means the bottom of the screen is almost 4 feet off the floor. Will this be too high? Will it make the sound seem to come from BELOW the picture? Obviously if it will, I can lower the proj. to about 8 feet, then lower the screen 1.5 feet or so and use the keystone adjustments to fix the picture. I have heard the keystone adjustments can STILL result in picture anomalies. Any thoughts?
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.183 ) at 11:44 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Gar: Sounds like a great price. Let me know what you think of it. While I have read a couple of reviews of the unit(with everyone praising it for improving upon the iScan v2), I have yet to read one whare the reviewer used a Sony 10HT. Some real use with the units together would prove useful to us(me, anyway, and maybe Joe).(what the hell... maybe Ron H too!)
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 11:39 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
I saw them online, but $900 bucks is too Steep. There is one guy, that said he would have them for around $650 - $700.
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 11:36 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
iScan Question.
How would one connect the Sony Playstation 2 using component HD Cables. Would you run the PS2 into the iScan and then to the Sony projector? Thanks for any help. Since Haven't seen the back of one of these unit I was wonder on how one would hook this unit up?
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 11:34 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Iscan Pro
AVB:Thanks for the info, I have delt with them before.
Gar ( 169.207.192.230 ) at 11:33 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
16:9 Vs. 4:3
cai: You can pick the Toshiba up for around $1200 now.
Cytotech ( 207.221.91.183 ) at 11:17 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
HTPC
Wild Bill: Dang it Bill! I hate it when you're right. According to some people over at TBP 10HT Forum, it DOES scale the image twice. Yuck. I guess I will be going with an iScan. The reviews look very good for that unit, but I have yet to see someone with a 10HT review it.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 10:40 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Cai: With reasoning like that... we would all have Sherwood receivers!
CHC ( 206.170.6.43 ) at 10:39 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
16:9 Vs. 4:3
cai: unless you find a Sampo for $1,700 It uses a Toshiba OEM tube BTW, but I suspect you already knew this
Kieran ( 64.167.251.138 ) at 9:50 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Kieran, come n get it!
CHC: Got it, thanks. Found my shades, too! (they were in my car...hiding)
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 8:41 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
16:9 Vs. 4:3
So according to my calculations for a 34" Sampo and a 36" Toshiba diagonal screen sizes the image heights are a follows:
Sampo = 34" 16:9 set a 2.35 anamorphic image is 12.60" high
Toshiba = 36" 4:3 set a 2.35 anamorphic image is 12.24" high.
A difference of 0.36" in image height and a $1400 difference in price. That is comparing a $3300 Sampo and a $1900 Toshiba. If the Toshiba does the raster compression, so that a full 1080i image is displayed, then I think that we have a serious contest here.
AVB ( 64.41.33.153 ) at 8:20 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Iscan Pro
Gar: Onecall is selling them at near list price though.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 7:58 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Darian: Very good deduction Darian. I see the answer clearly. Thank you.
Joe ( 152.163.205.33 ) at 7:55 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Wild Bill
Wild Bill: So if I understand this, with a HTPC you do not need any other scalers. The HTPC would hook directly to the projector. You can then adjust the HTPC to what ever output you want.
Wild Bill ( 152.163.213.208 ) at 7:51 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Wild Bill
Joe: I'd say between $1200-$1500 when everything is said and done. You need a display that can take advantage of the HTPC. If your display only does NTSC (15.75khz) there's no benefit with HTPC.
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:45 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Cai: Take your known width 28.8 inches and divide it by the aspect ratio of the film and you can calculate the screen hight.
28.8/1.77 = 16.2 inches high
28.8/1.85 = 15.57 inches high
28.8/2.35 = 12.25 inches high
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:30 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Cai: The numbers I gave you will let you determine the size of the image on a screen. WITHOUT ZOOMING OR STRECTCHING. Take the 36" TV you mention... In 4:3 mode 3/4/5 triangle
The Picture will be: 36" diagonal. 28.8 inches wide. and 21.6 inches tall.
Now take that set and flip to 16:9 mode... like in the Sony XBR400 you mention. Now the set has a 16:9 window with in the 4:3 window. The width is still the same. So we have a width of 28.8 inches. Now the height of a 16:9 window would be 16.2 inches. This would be for a film presented in 1.77 aspect.
Just plug in that and you can determine the hight of the pic for different theatrical Aspect Ratio.
All numbers above are rounded
Joe ( 64.12.105.183 ) at 6:28 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Wild BIll
How much does it cost to build one of these HTPC?
Joe ( 64.12.105.183 ) at 6:26 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
DFAST
I have started reading over at AVS forums. I see there is a big topic on DFAST. I do not have the tiem to read for hours on this tpic. What is the latest, is it catching on?
Darian ( 207.172.11.148 ) at 6:14 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Gar: Iscans have a HD15 connector(VGA). I most commonly use breakout cables with monitors that don't have VGA ins. Breakout cables are like $50 throw in 15 bucks for BNC to RCA and most sets with pro components are covered.
We will start seeing units in 2 to 3 weeks.
cai ( 24.163.106.111 ) at 5:23 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Darian: I was looking for the image size on the screen, not the screen size, when using a 2:35 anamorphic feed on a 36" 4:3 screen. Gar let me know that the Toshiba zooms the image without distortion.
I heard the presentation of the Dish recording unit. It will record about 30 hours at various degrees of resolution. As I said before, I do not think that it will record HD since the 6000 unit, with the HD adapter, is the one that decodes HD and the recording unit does not. It operates as another receiver. I am not sure that you can record one program and view another at the same time.
Gar ( 169.207.193.137 ) at 4:41 PM EST Monday, January 15, 2001
Darian: Any idea when the iScan Pros are coming in? Also, how do these unit connect